Freedom of TateSpeech Pt. 2 @azu182347

[Music] [Music] [Music] i live in a very homogenous society i live in a really strange country i live in romania 99.9 of the people there are romanian yeah and this is why even though the romanian police force is literally a joke i mean they drive cars called dachias they're like 4 000 brand new like they couldn't even chase you if they tried and i said to a cop i was like because he stopped me in my in my my lambo yeah and i was like does anyone ever run he goes no not really i said i said in american england they run all the time he goes no no we just put the lights on people just stopped never happened just yeah it's never happened and it's like the society is more homogenous and people to a degree kind of think the same speak the same look the same so it's much harder to just completely oppress them like even now the european union is trying very hard to enact some coveted tyranny and romania has the lowest vaccination rate in the eu and even now when you walk into a doctor in romania because it's like he sees himself in you if you walk into a doctor in romania and you say look i don't want the jab but i want that card so yeah yeah okay if that's what you want sorry i think you might be saying too much sorry i don't want them to come take you bro no but my i'm anyway but my uh my point is that when people when people see themselves and others it's very it's much harder it's harder to be a to to enact the tyranny well i think also what it is is it becomes impossible to use decisive measures because it's like how are you going to separate them that's right you can't divide and conquer you can't divide them how of short people against tall people and uh and that's the game that they play in america and that's kind of always been the game here is and it really hurts my heart man that people you know just lack independent thought to that degree and i remember reading about it as a teenager that that was the goal of the elites is to use the educational system and um pop culture and entertainment to basically dumb down the population i mean that's the simplest way to say it to to bring them down to a critically critically low thinking level um and to keep us sedated with these foods and this mindless entertainment 100 and um wrong i didn't believe it rome had a circus every day when they were losing yes sir they were losing they're losing wars we better start put the circus on because if they found out we're losing wars we've got to do something attract these people and it's just it's amazing to me that it works so so well and i mean that's that's been the driving force in entertainment technology people think it's about making money people don't care about money bro they use money as toilet paper yeah what they care about is control and they have been pushing the the the iphone or the television the streaming as much as it annoys me to admit it's super successful we're all addicted to our phones we're all addicted to our phones and and people often say to me hey tate how do you resist a new world order and i say listen you can't you can't you have to adjust to it you have to adjust to it but and if someone asks me what my description of the new world order was i'd say it's a very simple description it's your phone they know where you go they know what you say they know what you look up they know who you talk to they know where you spend your money if you want to get rid of the new world order for your phone away you're not going to so as long as that phone is in your pocket they know everything they need to know about you they listen in their conversations they know all of everything every photo you deleted is still there it's the age thing it's a matter of when you were born and when you became aware awoke because if you're somebody that's say i don't know 60 70 years and you're living in a log cavern off the grid you got solar power you got fresh water you're still hunting you got some crops and you got whatever the amount of family members out there and you're gonna die there yeah and your reasoning was you knew the system was what the system is and you got out of dodge 20 years ago or 30 years ago whatever that's the person that beat the newer order yeah so if you're not that person it's not it's not going to happen if you were born later than that it's a wrap you know what i mean so we're still relatively young so we're gonna we're gonna remember what it used to be like it used to be like but 15 16 year olds they're not going to have any idea i saw yeah i saw a video on uh youtube where they were showing like 15 16 year old or like 10 nine ten year olds old stuff like like like a old satnav yeah they didn't have a clue what it was what science says yeah they're like what is this board games yeah literally like where's the screen some of my favorite movies to watch are like 1999 2000 i i watched american i very rarely watch movies but on the plane here i watched american pie the first one and i and i and the thing that stuck out to me is i saw the party scene and everyone's like paying attention and talking yeah no one's on their phone if you put bro you put 500 people though you put 500 people in a room today 350 on there but you know what you would have to do uh what i think would be a cool concept for parties to have like retro parties yeah when you come in the first thing you gotta do is put your phone in a locker yeah you know what i mean you can't have any type of technology that didn't exist in that in that department but the problem is this this problem is twofold people are so addicted that they're not going to enjoy themselves because they have anxiety about what might be on their phone they're going to be sitting right i'm going to get my phone back what are we leaving well let's just go because you know yeah yeah that's how you ruin somebody's day when they get to the hotel like oh sorry but the wi-fi is down what yeah just kidding just kidding just kidding yeah yeah that's it the heart will stop and the second thing i actually really think fun has become a cloud-chasing exercise i don't think anyone has fun anymore they just want pictures and videos to make it look like they're having fun so that other people are jealous of them having fun that's the life no that's exactly what it is you're at the club and all you see is people in their phones but then when you see those same people on their instagram hey that's right that's right back to their phone that's right but as soon as that camera is gone they're like yeah that's right and answering that same question yeah that's right let's get sushi that's right yeah but they were acting like it was the best most lit ever and um i mean you got guys refilling bottles with water i mean jesus yeah yeah anything to make the party look lit and for me that's i mean dude i remember in high school man like i didn't start off popular like i literally earned my popularity yeah but when nobody knew who i was man i wasn't tripping like you know what i mean i it wasn't a big deal to me i didn't need anybody to think i was any more than i was and when i did things i can honestly say i did it for myself like i bought the fashion or the things that i liked yeah it wasn't like oh you got to get this you got to get that yeah i was a jordan fan so i had every jordan but that's probably the only thing that was like everybody else is doing i was kind of doing my own little thing and even with the girls like what he was saying about make sure you know that people like you when people when you're likable you get a lot more when i was in high school the way i used to get get at the shorties before i had the popularity or i was you know where i needed to be playing sports dude what i would do is i would just like defend the queer kid yeah you know what i mean like the kids that are getting picked on and whatnot but they know the girls or you know a photo op if it's in front of some girls like hey come on man leave them alone man hey man you all right bro hey don't worry about these dudes man and the girls would see that and they'd be like oh yeah let me tell you something it worked like a trunk and i noticed that a lot of guys were shooting himself in the foot because they would pick on certain you know kids that were like effeminate or whatever and that kid would be friends with all the with all the those cute girls so now when he's trying to shoot his shot the girls are all rejecting him it's because that same little queer dude is like he's an [ __ ] and no no you don't need he you know he's you're too good for him whereas when you are cool they'll be like yo you should he's cute you should you're getting a lot of you're getting a lot of easy uh i'll pick your enemies yeah you got it right exactly and have none if possible have none um i don't think enemies are what a guy can benefit from i think rivals are awesome if you could get somebody where's into something you're into and they're looking competitive with it use that as something to bounce off of and give you that energy that push well there's a reason i don't know about bodybuilding but in fighting maybe bodybuilding's the same and fighting when we train for a fight you train in a camp with other guys training for a fight and that's your goal right that's your rival running as fast as you can by yourself or as long as you can by yourself you're never gonna do as good as when that guy's next to you and it's neck and neck yeah you know what i'm saying pushing you yeah get somebody kicking you yeah yeah my clients tell me all that all the time they're like yeah when i work out with myself it's not like this i'm like dude when i work up on myself it's not like what i would coach that's right so um and it's crazy because it really makes you stop and ask yourself oh [ __ ] i thought i was focused i thought i was on it i thought i was consistent do i really need that push and i think a lot of people don't even realize because i mean obviously that self made should do on your own oh that's awesome but if you can have camaraderie if you can have you know quality dues in your life that's also pushing and you could push each other i think that's a beautiful thing that we're not even looking for as much and i don't think we ever looked for it i think it was an extension of those institutions i was talking about like where do you know this kid from arnold's kid from basketball camp yeah you know what i'm saying or i know this guy from boy scouts yeah oh we went to military school you know i got in trouble and they sent me off and he was the only you know we had to hold each other down and now we're both free we're back in the world we're trying to you know keep it straight so we keep each other straight so it's like when you take away those male spaces you take away so much that's encompassed in that the people that you would have met um the brothers that you would have made and those lessons you would have learned and the confidence you would have got from being down to the bottom so many times in so many situations because those institutions are designed to challenge you at the end of the day that's what it is it's to strip you of whatever comfort you have and mommy and daddy isn't around and it's like yep yep yep no no no no no do it it's completely true and and the easiest way to be self-made as a man is to have an amazing network of men around you so you're not really all that self-made like if you look at the best men in the world they have extremely powerful networks and i know it's a bit cliche we talk about how you're the sum of the five people you spend most time with what always blew my mind is that everybody understands that but they don't create who they hang around with right like if you understand that point you should be very very selective who gets your time because if you're still hanging around with some dude whose life you don't want then you need just various you need to you need to analyze why do you do that i mean is he that funny like is he that cool like are the video games that good and is he gonna fight if something were to happen is he does he got you back i mean that's right so you need to be very very careful like i one of the greatest things about having money when you were talking about kind of like some of the advantages of being rich is one of them is that i'm very fortunate in the fact that i get to create my reality if i don't want to see or talk to somebody i don't have to anymore and and and for me personally i don't even have problems with challenge people who challenge me or disagree with me whatever whatever i just don't like weak energy around me if i see dudes who are always sad or you know those unlucky [ __ ] who could never catch a break and then nah nah nah nah everyone yeah that shit's contagious i i like i've created a very very positive reality and that's done by making sure i talk to the right people so it's easy for me to feel positive i can't be the only sad guy in my whole life like how's that gonna work you know what i'm saying so if everyone around you smiling you're probably gonna smile that's how life works i agree i agree damn there was something i was going to ask you is important i know i keep i keep going on and on and on no no no no it's not your fault i smoked a little something um what the [ __ ] was it it was something advice based oh that's what i wanted to ask you so i think this is an interesting question because uh we're not all rich most people obviously aren't and i think it's more fun to be able to think and imagine and fantasize if i were successful or when i am successful you know what are the things i'm going to do that are like actually unique and actually clever and creative and cool so i want to ask you as a man of means you know when you meet a young lady and let's say she is or she isn't feeling your mojo but you already are locked and loaded with what you're willing to do the level of effort that you or how the level of interest that you have right what is the type of irresistible invite that you would give a lady like what's the type of date that you'd be like let me i want to take you to or i'm going to take you on a that's a really good question and i'll be honest with you since i got rich i don't think i've really changed that much about what i'll do with a chick on a date i really don't think i have changed that much i'm sure if i were to try hard i could do it one thing that's very easy now or once you have a bit of money and you're international and you have a big instagram it's super easy to say to a chick look girls don't want to come on their own but if you want to spend money if i'm in dubai i can say to a chick look at your friends bring your three friends boom i'll get you a hotel we'll just have dinner one night we don't get along whatever like that's easy but i don't even really do that to be honest with you i'm i'm still quite basic with what i do i really am quite basic i'm actually at the point now where i find if if you flex too hard what most people don't understand is that a lot of women are actually extremely insecure especially the pretty much especially especially so if you're too much of a catch right if you're if you're in good shape and you're good-looking and you're smart and you're rich and like they get to the point where they think oh he's just gonna [ __ ] me and bounce right or or he's a serial killer he's hiding something this is too good to be true good to be true why am i here that's right so it's kind of like for me if i say to a girl i'm gonna take you on some amazing place i think it almost puts them off more i'm much more like let's say why i want to do that that's right well i i let you answer the question the way that you heard it yeah but and i phrased it like that somewhat intentionally so i could get kind of like a dual answer yeah um so that's if you know i'm asking it from a financial standpoint um but the reason why i preference with a man of means is because i'm more interested from a creative standpoint like what's the most creative date that you surprised a girl with or invited her on and it was to the point was like she could never say no to this this is so cool or interesting or unique or whatever and then the fact that you're a man of means whatever that might cost you yeah because it's not about the money because she wouldn't know that anyway it's just about the creativity this hasn't been done so you might have to pay somebody under the table to make something happen that's not supposed to happen so i could get on a part of a building i'm not supposed to be on so i can get a view that i'm not supposed to get you know what i mean that kind of thing that's a really good question and i'm going to sound like i'm going to sound like a boring dude but usually usually things pop directly to my head now i'm sure there's been a point in history where i've done something pretty cool like that but all in all i find and you know this we all know this it's it's not so much where you are it's who you're with right right so i i really am confident enough i believe if i can just if a girl will sit down with me and have coffee with me i can get the job done so i'm pretty i'm pretty i'm pretty basic he said he is the surprise no but no that's a really good question and i'm sure i do have an answer but i don't have one that instantly pops to my head i i mean what you're saying is your spontaneity is intact so you do it naturally and normally you haven't been duly noting it you haven't been like all right so i took this girl in the helicopter yeah yeah yeah it's yeah like i have it easy like i'll have a girl who i i've gone to coffee with and unless i have a girl with coffee in miami and i bounce i don't have time to keep seeing or whatever whatever and then she'll reply to one of my stories when i'm in monaco and i can say look here's a flight it'll come and she'll be like okay so that kind of [ __ ] will happen but that's more truthfully at that level a lot of the time the only time i'll send girl flights is not because i'm trying to be a sugar daddy or trying to impress them that's just convenient for me no no of course i got stuff to do and you can come to where i am absolutely that's that's i mean it definitely gets to that well you're willing to pay extra just to just save you as your time you're like listen i need to get in here listen who do i gotta what do i gotta pay what i gotta talk to make this happen that's right so yeah that i i definitely understand another thing i want to ask you is where do you think the man is fair is going or is there anything hopeful there i don't think there's much hope left man i think it's i think it's falling off i think i had a glory period like two three years ago maybe there was like a glory period with it but i think it's kind of fallen off badly and i don't know if it's a combination of there's certainly egos involved which is one thing the second thing is i don't know if this this whole covert stuff has changed the world i don't think the world's ever going to be the same completely again i don't know exactly what it is but when i look at a lot of the pure pure red pill content i don't really see any hope there it even if they don't mean it to be a lot of it is so negative it's framed from such a negative perspective exactly and it's very hard to sit down in front of a woman with a negative mindset and impress her no matter how amazing you are that say that song by cindy lauper is completely true girls just want to have fun and fun and fun is positivity and if you're if you're fun to be around to some degree she'll always want to be around you and sometimes these guys are trying to learn all this theory and by the time you learn it all you're just bitter you're boring and you're boring because you can feel it and it's in the air it's an intangible thinking too much yeah you're reading off a [ __ ] script yeah and it just does all goes wrong so personally i mean i don't watch much of any of it and i the things i do see the occasional bits here and there i just don't think it's going to help anybody i don't think it's going to help anybody i feel like you know there's so many things about being a man that are difficult to do and truthfully if you put your energy in the right places you're going to achieve a bunch of amazing things and the girls are gonna i really i know it's been said before you need to be your own point of origin and girls need to come on accident blah blah it's not about them coming on accident it's just a matter of there's a reason a lot of these game guys don't have long successful relationships it's because they know enough to talk a girl into sex but they don't have enough to retain her so it can't be the only thing you focus on you gotta focus on a bunch of other things and and it's gotta be a small part of your repertoire just like everything else right like if food is the only thing you focus on you're living a stupid life but you can't not eat food you know it's one of them things exactly and i mean with the women if you're fun as long as they're in that age bracket they're always going to make themselves available for who's the most fun that's for sure who's the most exciting who's the most fun that's always who they're going to make time for even to the point where i think that could even trump um bragging about it on social media like if you could offer genuine fun i think there are plenty of occasions where girls will be like you know what if i got to leave my phone i'm gonna do this because it's fun and i'll take pictures on the boat next weekend you know with some other synth that will let me record the whole damn thing and you know light up my reels with it but this with this one i'm just gonna go in here and what stays here and what happens here stays here you know um if you're you know you're offering that genuine fun but i always tell guys you have to kind of look at women as an accessory in the short term as well as the long term i mean if she's in the short term she's just an accessory to your your fun your entertainment you're just trying to have a good time and the moment that that stops being fun you you should already have had an exit strategy and a backup for sure that's in the short term now in the long term she's now a necessity to your life to your goals whatever it is you're trying to do so you have to realistically have some type of time frame on it because this is a girl i'm gonna marry or is this a girl i'm gonna date five or six years while i build what i'm doing and there's nothing wrong with that i think that's very smart um you know i i those times in my life where i was like all right if i'm a single man i am not going to be able to focus worth a damn i have far too much access to far too much beautiful women you know in this moment in my life and it's going to be almost impossible because you're going to try to manage the the stable completely and you're not going to limit yourself if you got four chicks and they're bad and you get another one she's uh yeah you you might you might give her a little attention and she drops off you don't really care yeah but if you get another one i say eight or nine trust me you're gonna still try to maintain her and next thing you know you're devoting your time and your energy to that so i said you know what let me just get a girlfriend and i already know she's temporary she might not know she's temporary but she's temporary now the problem with that i mean that the good thing about that is if it ever does get difficult and rough you could do a cost analysis real quick like okay this [ __ ] is becoming a headache and it's not it's not worth it let me get the [ __ ] out of here you're here to make [ __ ] easier with women not to make it a headache now the one that you choose for the long term now this is completely different because when you do have your downs you do have your bad times ah you got to work through it you got to do this because there's an investment made some kind of equity so you see what i'm saying correct but as a dude did you go in with that as a plan and i think what happens with guys they don't deal with women with plan they don't plan they leave it to like what she'll let me do or what i could get out of her and play it by air and all this nah it has to be pre-decided in your head you already got to be like and i tell guys this would budget would budget when you're dealing with girls you should treat it like any other expense like so how much is it for me to upgrade to a phone eight it's 800 for the phone and then i can do the okay because you already know in your head if this [ __ ] say 900 he can keep that [ __ ] you already know so with women you got to kind of be the same way like all right i'm willing to pay this amount to spend time with this chick and after that date if if i'm not smashing that night or relatively soon if i don't even feel like she you know is on that same page with me we cut your losses 100 you know what i mean completely and what you said there by entering with a plan is super important because that also guides the manipulation we were talking about earlier like it doesn't mean it doesn't mean rush it right if your plan is to have kids with her don't be saying that day one oh crush it don't rush it but you can certainly mention in the first few weeks or months when you see a family on tv you know what what do you think about having a family i think and you can test and you can test her and you can understand things now most men can't be patient with it if your game's right you can be patient you understand where you're trying to go then you can guide her with your manipulation correctly you can get what you want but if you don't really know what you want then you can't do the game right so you're right nothing good i've said this all the time but nothing good in life happens on accident how do you get in such good shape accident oh definitely no you know how to never you're never going to be like oops you don't get what you want with that see this is the crazy thing it's like we're over here advocating for manipulating women and children yeah but i'm advocating that you also manipulate yourself 100 for you to accomplish pretty much anything there has to be some self-manipulation you have to convince yourself that this is what i want that this is this is it's this important and um this is worthwhile right right this is where you're telling yourself everything that needs to be said to motivate yourself to do that to execute that and to go ahead and take whatever the cost of that's going to be whatever the workload is going to be how many late nights you're not going to sleep early mornings you got to get up whatever the case may be so i'm going to make a video soon about you shouldn't be your goal shouldn't be just sex yeah even though your goal is just sex yeah and it sounds like wait what yeah so it's like basically what i'm going to explain is that when pursuing a girl that you pretty much just want to enjoy sexually you still have to have some type of plan set up to gain and benefit from her in another area absolutely and this will make things go much smoother i guarantee you because the idea is to value who value her most sexually meanwhile she thinks you're valuing her most for something else so it's like you're putting her to task putting her you're putting her in a mission and that mission could be something that's to help her yep so if she's five or six pounds overweight or something you can say you know what i'm gonna i'm gonna take you out i'm gonna celebrate i'm gonna take you out to celebrate when you do this and that's code for i'm gonna dick you down good you so i'm saying when you accomplish this and what you're doing is you're literally building your own pedestal when you do that you're building a pedestal with that correct but you're using your patience and your dick control you're not just [ __ ] her down from jump if you jig her dick her down from jump she could get this strange idea that she's above you and it's her blessing you with her with her cooter completely right so you got to flip the scrivener make her work for the dick but what that's going to do is that's going to imprint on her brain because what other guy did that exactly no other guy did that you know what i mean and it's going to keep the rest of the relationship smooth from that point on because you set the lead but all you have to do now is delegate validation when she does machine because she's gonna be coming back to you for another task what now daddy you know what i mean and i and i think that's a better way to be dealing with chicks because them respecting you and admiring you and then also them benefiting from you somewhere is like the pillars that are going to keep them focused on just you so they don't have that idle time to kind of get distracted by some other dumb [ __ ] that's not even you know good for them so you got to kind of have that that in mind that that's the chemistry you want with a chick and it doesn't have to just be instant is what i'm trying to say it doesn't have to be like oh you see how that girl is with that guy it's because he's 6-2 or it's because he's rich it could be because he's laying bricks he's laying foundation correct absolutely hey you see tall guys get divorced rich guys get divorced it's all out there so there's a lot more to the game than the basic intangibles that a lot of people want to pretend because and that's just cope that's just an excuse i can't pull this off because he's this and i'm not that's just oh definitely i mean all day and that's something that you know because like i said it wasn't easy for me i had to kind of be sly to kind of figure out how to kind of get you know some some quality in time with girls it wasn't as tough as it is nowadays with social media you know glaring in their in their face i mean like if that other guy wasn't like i shot you had a chance back in the day but now he's in her phone that's right so it's kind of it kind of it kind of sucks but i saw nerds that had girlfriends i saw a fat dude there was this fat dude we called him kool-aid puerto rican dude he was fat like big punk type you know that's how we used to make we used to joke him like yo what up punt but the thing was he was always fresh he was always dip outfit immaculate always fresh crispy sneakers and he always had all the girls around him and he was funny and casual uh casual chasm was a matter of right yeah you know what that word is right charismatic charismatic yeah there you guys just slipped my tongue for a second but um and it's like i saw that early like i was just like ninth grade i i noticed that and i i think i registered it correctly like you don't have to be the best looking guy you don't have to be the richest guy you have to be the best athlete you just need to shine in something correct something something about you got to be top top-notch you're better than most people in some area and i think even if you're a gamer once you start making money gaming there's groupies for games for everything yeah you just collect harry potter [ __ ] there's girls that are into that there's groupies for serial killers so i mean no you're not a lion so i think a lot of guys just have this defeatist attitude and um they're trying to act as if this issue is on the women when really it's a lack of um desire really because i think the discipline comes after the desire so it's a lack of desire and then you're making excuses for why you lack desire why you don't want it bad enough because let's say there's a hundred guys in a room and there's 20 girls 20 of those guys are going to get a girl your mentality shouldn't be oh man we're outnumbered forget it it's over no your mentality should be let me i gotta be one of these 20 guys that's right you know what i mean that should be my concern and i think the issue with the madness fair is that it's it's that it's not the men that's fair yeah if i'm making any sense it's the man is fair and everybody's tapping in and tuning in monolithically like just for themselves and i think all the problems in the issues that we talk about they're not really like females are the issue or feminism is the issue i think the issue is a collective absence of men correct i think is what the issue is and the reason why i say that because i think everything else stems from that i think the men kind of fallen back and everything else is taking this place and not controlling the narrative and not and not guarding uh the truth you know viciously like no i'm not gonna let you say there's more than two genders i am not gonna let you say these things that aren't true because that virtue isn't front and center anymore is why all these other issues are offshooting all over the damn place but i feel like in the manufacture we keep limiting it to a issue and a man and what this man in theory could do and it's like whoa this problem is bigger than him that's true it's bigger than me it's bigger than any of us but it's not bigger than all of us right so i feel like the message is like focusing more on the symptoms than it is on what it what a difference would look like such a perfect full circle we were saying earlier to about how the power is with the people and you're right right right exactly and i think that's what the manosphere should should have been doing first and foremost i get it it had to have its phase where it's informing men like hey these things are going on and here's a space where we could talk about it what for real yeah we can talk about it here this internet thing's pretty cool because we could be anywhere and talk about it okay but i feel like it didn't go anywhere after that correct it's just still us talking about it and the conversation that we aren't having is how can we ignore absolutely all of our differences and just focus on one thing y chromosome yeah yeah that's it yeah that's it because we all agree on what we don't like if you think about it we disagree on all these other things how you view it what do you think could be done and i don't like the way he said that or i disagree with him but the issues we don't disagree on the issues we don't we don't disagree that the the divorce lawyers need to be yeah yeah fair it's a really good point so why do we not make that happen as men collectively why aren't we going to whoever the government officials or whatever i'm being like listen look how many men signed off on this [ __ ] completely we're gonna have to change it or else guess what dudes aren't getting married completely says who says the internet and since every dude has heard it and had read the article he had to stop and think [ __ ] i was engaged and i was gonna get married in four years but because this information is here and i'm reading it i definitely agree with their point this [ __ ] that i'm about to head into doesn't look like a good deal for me it looks pretty [ __ ] risky and i i'm being referenced thousands of accounts of other men that have gotten married and basically what they're saying is we need to stand together sign some petition or some [ __ ] saying that no man will get married until these laws are changed so even the dudes that are engaged got to stop and think huh and when their fiance has a problem with that that's a red flag because it's like you have a problem with me feeling comfortable with me feeling protected me feeling [ __ ] is fair that's true no i feel like we need this [ __ ] petition more than ever yep because that means that i'm at risk if you don't agree with this and and i go in with with this do you understand if you don't agree with us petitioning this and i go into this contract with this with these conditions honestly you're gonna [ __ ] me you're gonna [ __ ] you're gonna [ __ ] me over right so i think what's what the main main issue is is that men stopped operating united correct and that's why they could shut this person up and silas this person and take down that person and do all this [ __ ] because it's that person yep it's not men if it was men in general and and what i find interesting is is that the attacks are always men in general yeah the attacks are the attacks aren't the attack is why harvey weinstein did this so now we need laws for all of you [ __ ] correct correct okay this guy did this we need laws for all we need to you see you said we need to limit all of you yeah we need to quiet and silence all of you and we're going to put a law here we're going to put a rule here we're going to put all this [ __ ] that affects us collectively yeah but yet how we address these issues it is not collectively correct so i i think that's something simple that the madness fear is missing i mean who am i to say that but that's just the way that i see it i'm like hmm you know we're taking the fire as a group and we're you know having our grievances we're talking our grievances out but why are we not pushing back as one united front i agree and i think there's a lot of egos in the in the space that prevent some of that happening there's a few characters who everyone has their own particular view and i think the problem with some of it and this is a guess but some of the guys who are teachers in the space they come they came to their views through trauma with women so their their view is linked to trauma so if you attack their view it becomes a very emotional thing for them and all the things we were talking about earlier about men being able to disagree and shake hands that's gone so it all just ties into it it's very hard to have a united front so it's kind of amazing how all the issues we've talked about in the world and all the things you talked about how building blocks are missing when people don't have uh groups of men at a formulative age and how we talked about how we're all divided et cetera every single thing is a spider's web it's not even a change yeah it's a spider's name it's all ties into each other connected yeah and i mean it's definitely by design but i think there is still little things that could be done that they might not have even expected i think i think there's still possibility yeah if you put some creativity um with everybody uh you know banding together yeah because i mean look if you can make say like [ __ ] walk like a thing yeah and every chick has heard of [ __ ] walk even if she doesn't support it and she didn't like go wear the weird costume and paint her body or whatever she's heard a [ __ ] walk so i feel like what we simply need is just to to simplify demands and demands that nobody can disagree with without exposing themselves as being biased because what we ask for is very very you know fair and practical and reasonable and i think we need to just determine that as a group of men and then get that to min on a whole because obviously the space isn't that big but the space is big enough to create a blueprint or create a list a great right or or not 10 commandments but 10 10 uh grievances that need to be rectified in this way correct because for example civil rights and all these other kind of things they they they did very little right and we can debate that another day but the very few things they did were just simply because they were demands made in writing like you're going to do this or else and i think men have to stop acting like we don't have that power you [ __ ] crazy who keeps the lights on who keeps the roads you know who keeps who maintains anything all the infrastructure is maintained by men at the end of the day so when women can say things like oh you know all men or dogs because this percentage of men does this well why aren't you saying that all men are incredible because of the percentage of men that build this you come on you're being biased with your your way of thinking where thinking is flawed because i use that same logic to say that all men are good because of the percentage that have contributed great things to society correct and the same way you say well how come there isn't 50 female ceos and all this kind of stuff well i can answer that [ __ ] question because women aren't working that hard or that passionately and they're not making those sacrifices that's right that's the real answer but let's just go with that that form of thinking why aren't you bitching that there isn't 50 percent women cleaning the garbage and in sanitation why are you not complaining that they're not on boats catching crabs and [ __ ] you're not complaining about that so let's just be consistent with the logic and i think that's only going to come from the men yeah and to expect that for women i think is asinine it's like why are we even still upset that women aren't logical i thought we knew that we knew that they're not logical and rational that's why we need to be the ones setting the tone in the narrative and the way to do that is not this like complaining victim culture [ __ ] first of all that should never work for men because we aren't supposed to be the victims correct we're supposed to be the people that protect the victims so we definitely can't win anything coming off as poor us it is not fair it's not fair and stuff we can't go that route but we can go the route of this is what we're not gonna do until you change this and something as simple as men saying we're not gonna get married i'm engaged i'll just stay engaged [ __ ] yeah i'll just be an engaged [ __ ] my skeleton will be engaged in the in the coffin until this gets done because i'm a dude and this is what the dudes are doing and i can't like not be one of the dudes that's down with this because how how would that even work correct because i agree with everything that's on this paper and the moment that i don't support this i i must not be making my own decisions my some girl must be twisting my arm what is my mom who's a lot of these girls are twisting her arm it's another problem right but you're telling yourself at that moment yeah yeah and you telling you it tells on your girlfriend because if she has a problem with you supporting this list something's flawed here because nothing on this list isn't fair or just for men to want so we're not asking for 80 custody result yeah we're not asking for alimony from women that's not what we're gonna ask for we're gonna ask that that's 50 50 custody is graded unless there's some extreme reason why that she can prove otherwise that that's the default setting is the guy gets 50 50. so we're we're we're going for things like that is what we're going for and when you make that list if every guy agrees to not do what the threat is it's not we're gonna do something it's we're gonna simply stop doing something because we're men remember you rely on us to do this type of [ __ ] correct right so that i think would make a huge difference even the acquisition of it would be like everybody would have to wake the [ __ ] up everybody would have to have this conversation yeah no new no mainstream media nobody could ignore it and then the women at the end of the day are going to be the ones that are going to have to make that call i agree because the women are going to say listen i could sit here and be a [ __ ] and stick with my in-group preference the thing is i want to get married that's right yeah yeah yeah and that's where we got him by the balls is where we start refusing to do things collectively unless our demands are met collectively and then you see all these states start to change laws and rules because what will happen is somebody's going to make it political and say listen you know what if we change this law we can get all the support this way we can get a bunch of people to move over here and now we can open up more businesses schools and whatnot over here in this area so somebody's going to use that as a means to get their agenda across we have a population issue we get a lot of people to move here because they want to get married and hear the laws protect the dude right so i think there's just a lot of things that we can do and i'm nowhere near the smartest man that's in the atmosphere and that's my point that there's somebody in there that's a genius that will be coming up with this type of [ __ ] and all we got to do is sign off we could write we're literate correct i agree i mean so that's all that i would like to see from the manosphere and i think that the window is closing yeah because we know that scent that censorship is coming a hundred hundred percent and i feel like the man's first had enough time to get a message of um an actual plan like a plan that could actually fundamentally work you know that men's rights [ __ ] none of that holding up signs no that's stupid [ __ ] yeah you know what i mean just straight up delegating somebody that has access to some large platform to make that call to arms because what we're asking for is support from the everyday man that's never heard of the red pill in the manosphere and i think that would be one of the best ways to even grow the space and get the word out there is making it something so dramatic as a boycott yeah because that's going to draw interest just within itself like what who there's men that are having a boycott yeah the quick kind what kind of what that's true right and so what you will get on fox 5 and main uh mainstream medium every once in a while is a short news story about men boycotting marriage yeah but it's always a couple of individuals and it's a salacious story real quick and then we move on so that's kind of how they acknowledge it so nobody can say why are we talking about this is a big issue they say no no we did we did a story on that already yeah they're starting on that last month but they didn't really let anyone know how severe it is correct so when the public sees that they think oh these silly guys like there are some there are a few silly guys out there who think this let's think this or say something so ridiculous but the truth of the matter is a much larger majority of men think that way and we're not we're not connected those the problems we don't realize how big we are when i discovered like the red pill space or whatever you want to call it i swear to god it was almost like any minute now can they say something that i didn't already know think or feel or notice yeah and to find out that there's like a group of men as a community of men that talk about this [ __ ] and think like this so i was mgtow long before like yeah i knew some word for it yeah there was just a time in my life where i was like yo you know what i'm gonna get on some james bond [ __ ] yeah no relationships i'm gonna keep them short i'm gonna keep them to this period and just the fun beginning stages of the relationships and right when it stops being new i'm gonna jump into another new car yeah like all of those characters i decided for myself and like yo i'm not gonna live with a woman i'm not gonna been there done that did all of that right organically yeah so the fact that there's that many men that's a growing you know space of men that are thinking and feeling like that it's like all right some of you guys are really late to the party yeah but this is good because i'm sure there's guys in the 60s and 70s that were well aware of female nature and seeing kind of how they had to move you know what i'm saying they didn't have the technology that we have but they still already kind of saw the certain female nature traits that are timeless right and they make they chose a different lifestyle i'm trying to say they chose the playboy um lifestyle or whatever like the hugh hefner type of type of flow where you're focusing on being successful and having that power we talked about so that you could access beautiful women as a hobby and i know that's something that you said at one point in time was was it was a hobby of yours and the conversation that you were having was about money and how people with money spend money yeah and how they understand and interpret money and they look at it as they're going to be making money with with with their money yeah and you were trying you're talking about the difference between rich people that are very frugal yeah and rich people that are very flashy yeah and what you were saying is basically you can't judge somebody spending their money extravagantly if you don't even understand why they're doing that what is their goal or their mindset and you were saying you personally you love beautiful women and beautiful women happen to be and the places where the most money is [ __ ] spent so if you want to play this game at the level that you that you intend to play it you can't you can't go with the sixes and the sevens and the seven point fives are you gotta go with the straight tens or the undeniable ten that most people have never even seen in their life right and there's a cost to play at that table correct right so i think there's many things like that in life where guys are maybe shying away from it it's something that they would like something that they would want but they're shying away from that price yeah i'm not talking about just financially yeah i'm talking about whatever the work load could be 100 right if you want to write a book are you willing to not sleep for three months yeah no no you're completely right man you nailed it there's so many points you made there that are so valid and completely true and and in regards to masculine agency and us uniting as a whole they must be able to take some of our rights back that's something that needs to happen is it going to happen i mean i don't want to be pessimistic it certainly needs to happen and if anyone can do it is the red pill space we now know what the objective is but you're right the whole space lacks an overall objective and it kind of feels like it gets to a point where there's a bunch of guys who are just self self therapy right self therapeutic just complaining and and complaining isn't going to fix it you're like right you need a plan of action nothing good happens on accident what do we see earlier nothing good happens on accident because i feel like we have to protect ourselves i feel like if men aren't protecting themselves and when i say that normally when you say that in this space how it's interpreted as protect yourself as an individual what i'm talking about is men protecting men and and because what ties our hands behind our backs is being alone and then it's if i do or say this i could lose my job yeah yeah if i stand up for what i believe in or what i think you know i'm gonna be punished i'm gonna be socially punished and i'm gonna suffer so but if we all moving forward collectively on a date like it's like we're together like the countdown we know the soldiers are assembled what happens now is nobody can be singled out correct so now people who do have a little bit of power can actually assert that power now to help men on a whole because it's like i can stand up and say these things and use my platform and use my money and my influence now because everybody is behind me so you can't just you can't bully me or attack me because everybody's seeing this right now this is happening in real time this is happening publicly so i'm protected so when we say listen we're going to boycott marriage until these laws are favorable to men all right put a paper clip in that next okay we're going to withhold our seed you you heard me every man has agreed to be responsible and hold back his seed and that's the part where they laugh and it's like yeah whatever most babies are born on accident anyway you're only gonna be able to stay out of the coochie it's going down and then you let them laugh a little bit you say okay you're done laughing because you know who most surgeons are that do vasectomies that's true they're men yeah that's true and you know they've also signed this petition and they've also agreed to do affordable vasectomies on everybody who wants them yeah go ahead and laugh again yeah it's true go ahead and laugh again that's true you see what i mean because they're 90 something percent reversible yeah so now that you think this is a [ __ ] joke i'd like to continue my list of demands because we mean that [ __ ] too yeah and now you have who you think is going to be first to do that who's going to be first to do that is the guys that can afford it who can afford it the wealthy guys the guys in the top 10 percent they'll be the guys in the top 20 they'll be the guys in the top 30 percent you see where i'm going with that i also have the most to lose the wealthy guys so that's my point that's why they're going to be the first guys like yo that's a good [ __ ] idea yeah with all else said that's a good idea and now that you made it a social thing you made it a trending thing i i'ma jump on that too and it's affordable as ever so i like to save money so i'm gonna i'm gonna jump on that then you're gonna have people that are like listen i'm a surgeon at so-and-so and i'm trying to do this for as many minutes as possible but not all men can afford it anybody that would like to make donations towards paying the cost of what okay again men men financing this so what i'm saying is if we finance it as men we protect each other as men we share the platforms and the influences and we share the abilities because those people being surgeons and being willing to do that that makes it so that you can't laugh at that threat sure because now it became real like oh [ __ ] all the men that are worth for damn and make good money are are going to be sterile until that's true these laws change that's true like yeah and now don't get me wrong i'm well aware that that's what the elite want but the thing is is that that's going to be the conclusion anyway people not getting married and people not having children what i'm saying is we need to make the threat on our terms because the women are too naive to see it coming correct but the women are the only ones that are going to fight back the elites aren't at least going to be like [ __ ] go ahead with this boycott we don't want y'all to get married we don't want y'all to have kids but it's the women that are going to be like um excuse me mr judge that's true we think that um we should come to the table and discuss these laws and we got this million women that sign and we we think that yeah we would like those terms on our wedding on our wedding certificates because we do want to get married we do want to have children right so so and then i think there's some irony in there because like you were saying before the design is men and women working together yeah that's the mold that's the design that works best and the irony is that this ish that was made to separate us the solution could very well require the claims right the coming together because the same way the uh the elites use the women to vote their [ __ ] in playing with their emotions okay well we need to use the women to vote that [ __ ] out you know what i mean change your mood to change your mind right change the mood change your mind nothing gets a woman in line like an assertive man that has something she wants or needs that's when you have the leverage as a dude and i'm not even saying that like frivolously i'm saying that on some real [ __ ] like since the beginning of time how do you think men have kept women in check it's cold out there isn't it you'd like to come in this cave you'd like to come in the cave yeah yeah okay are you gonna behave okay come in the cave sure there's some dare over there you see what i mean it's oh that's always been the case she had to play by the rules because she needed his protection his resources so yes they've given women the ability to work and also that kind of stuff but what's the one thing that women even agree that they need us to agree to that's marriage and our seed they they need the man's seed you nailed it right you nailed it so we need someone to put all this together so anyone who's watching anybody's watching i mean i mean even the sperm banks the smart banks would go out of business if men all signed a petition and agreed listen i don't care how broke you are bro don't go up there and sell your managers but we boycott no no mangers can can be on the market yeah what are women going to do bro they got no choice it's true all right man but listen thank you for coming super appreciate it i know and i need to say one more thing and you painted me this bro look at this miami vice gangster you're a talented man you're a talented man brother thank you very much appreciate that man thank you and uh we appreciate what you mean to the space um does people have asked me i never really answered people ask me like what do you think andrew tay and i'm just like i don't know i'm extreme i can't tell i can't answer this question without sounding like a fanboy so yeah you know because i think a lot of people in this um space as far as people that are in a public eye to any extent and content creators or whatever there is like that stigma that they're not genuine yeah right so you have like that willingful ignorance where people just like you know what i'm gonna believe it because i like this character that's being sold to me so i'm just gonna naively believe it and then later on i might have to foolishly defend it but whatever yeah and then you have the other people that are straight skeptics they're like this person is probably an [ __ ] and all they care about is money and you know material gain and blah blah blah and that was never the vibe that i got from you good to know bro so i appreciate that man the energy good thank you and man it's been fun we'll have to do another one we'll do another one soon yeah hopefully in another country let's do it man let's do it all right y'all peace

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