Found under a House, Home Built Tractor, Can IT Be Saved?

the same stuff [Applause] there's water yeah the mice got all in it you can see right there oh yeah i don't think you're going to get anywhere with that but you can give it a shot yeah yeah there it goes it moved good nice hi guys this is ed ed is uh the grandson of the builder is that what it was yeah yeah and give me a little bit of history behind it my grandfather built this back in the early 60s and it's a articulating front-end tractor doodlebug probably call it yeah i don't know what you would call it it's with a handmade thing that he built it's got a 1960s briggs and stratton i think it's an eight horse motor on it it's got a 34 ford three speed stick with reverse with a creepy gear um 34 ford um geared the steering box on it it's got a 39 to a 40 41 rear end with brakes nice and stuff so and you guys just kind of built it up to draw logs and drag logs i don't know he just i don't know if he used it for doing work around his yard when they you know when they just having fun having fun with it cool cause my mother's around somewhere she's got a picture of me with him on it when i was a kid nice and this has been sitting down here like 10 15 years something like that yeah probably since we built the edition gotcha cool so we're gonna go do our best to drag that out resurrect it all right thanks it should come right up it looks like it looks like it's got tube in it so yeah yeah this one's not rotted and my air tank has a charge still in it going up yep i don't think it would go up reasoning enough to get up the trailer anyway yeah well yeah we'll call that a win we'll push our luck you guys yell if you see something funky all right hold on for a second it doesn't want to go easy no no i think that might be in gear [Applause] probably the brakes are just locked up from sitting yeah well here's the other club that i had for look it see that in the light it's got white walls oh there's some yeah that goes with it they're on it that father oh [Applause] fight [Music] uh i would watch out for that cable yeah still have a blocking tackle i don't want a bunch of the cable to get lower on the spool so you get a little bit more power the gear ratio is better i don't have a walking tackle sorry about the wind we went around a couple times just to use up some cable [Music] [Music] oh you got your best feature ready more time hey we got it oh so guys how's it going i would definitely say this is uh one person's uh attraction to making something by hand and sometimes that could be really fun and it's not just now that that happens it's been happening for a long time the the motorhead in this all right so you better name it i should put a name across the front of i should ask if you ever they ever named the tractor early briggs eight horse pull start only probably has no charging system in it going from the output on that to a belt that has a tensioner on it to make it go and stop driving a chain to a three-speed transmission to a torque tube from the original uh he said 39 ford was the rear end in it and then that weight i forget what he said that weight was they made a bunch of them and is the casting for one of them and they just added more weight to the rear end at one time it had a plow blade on the front we could not find the plow blade we did find the hook up for it the frame hitch but not the actual plow blade itself back tires are locked brake drums are locked try tapping on them a little bit there we couldn't get them to free up i think this one started to move a little bit when we're trying to get it on the trailer and i guess they had a some kind of tiller drag behind tiller that was on the rear for digging up a garden at some time all right actually we get that hood off of there we start getting into it and uh see if we can get the engine to run let's have some fun it's gonna put up on a lift we're gonna have enough room it's a little too wide got a couple of clips that hold it [Music] pull them out and then it looks like we got two bolts on each side we get the front off there gives a little access to the engine well my favorite tell us what conditioner the fuel is in well hold on a minute yeah that's not a great time hopefully you said it was really oh i could smell it already oh oh yeah she's got some tar in there it's definitely got fluid in there and it's got like half a tank oh you can see the scaliness against the wall over there she's pretty bad yeah gives you an idea what the carbs are going to look like too let's we got to get that fan shroud off of there to get the critters out of there just so we can get it spin get the plug out of it throw a little bit of oil down in the center it looks like we might have to get that big center nut out of there yeah we have to get that center nut out of there and those two this will come out of the way so the fan trail can come forward hopefully the hardware is accessible there we go one there one there one there we gotta get the tank off anyway there and one on that side all right let's go probably start disassembling that tank first there's a sediment bowl it's a good vintage wine looks like that fuel valve is possibly let's go see if that'll spin in a little bit or do anything hopefully it's shut off we're gonna go take that nut off the back side take the fuel line off we'll just take this bracket right with it so you can get the whole tank to come off as one piece deal with it later brought in some light so you can see what we're doing yeah it looks like it's it's gonna turn the whole thing i'm gonna need a seven sixteenths of three days seven sixteen is good hopefully that doesn't piss out on us it's going to stink don't break good those are head bolts too so we got to make sure we put them back in during the uh compression part of it so we don't blow out what there is for a head gasket we can run it we can spin it with no plug in it just gotta remember later on to put those in all right see if this will come away for us here we go it's about halfway up gunk see we got going down inside here they make a uh a starter generator it was common in the early tractors they would have an engine like this that doesn't have a charging system and they would have you know what's called the starter generator it works as a starter when you're trying to start it and then after it starts it recharges the battery it's got a separate voltage regulator that goes on the side this should be able to accommodate one if we choose to go that far that's uh definitely turned into crud huh pastor uh warranty let's get that front tin off we got those four screws to get out and let's go dig into the meat and potatoes of the mice i think this is the last one [Music] that air snorkel may give us a little bit of issue let's see she's chalky are you gonna run on us ah she's packed let's hold him oh i forgot to do the pulley whoops go grab an impact gun we're just getting a little overeager that's all you think that's going to do for us on the impact do we get i thought i was going to put up more of a fight somebody made that but it doesn't exactly fit the center it looks like somebody hogged out a a pulley from something else all right the critters go running she's pretty and nobody living there huh oh yeah that's that colorful the smell did the flywheel loosen up too all right i gotta go take a little time and clean that up get rid of it get rid of that once anybody poking the head up i see some worms on a worm by the bottom of the shroud too we'll clean all that crap out we'll get the plug out of it get some oil in it and see if we can spin it and uh how that does you probably put those those two bolts back in it and see if you get any compression if not we have to go digging a little bit further for uh you know any valves that aren't seating let's go deal with that first anybody eating breakfast right now let's get that whole house right at i thought there was a wall between the end there isn't i might uh bring this outside and here with the pressure washer it's finally warmed up enough where i could use it again let's go get this guy it's a beast of the machine everything's just big on it for eight horsepower seems like a lot of material doesn't it what this engine was on sometimes you could look them up they'll be like some coating on them what they were used for doesn't look like anything fancy i don't see any gear reduction or extend oil paint it might have a deeper oil pan uh what was the eight horse ones that were john deere i think some of the early john deere's had that deep oil pan on them all right go get the plug out of it and a little bit of oil down inside the top end not much rust on the inside of the plug it's a good sign so you take an exhaust on this side so the valves are over here on the flat head we want to try to get some oil to the right down in the cylinder that's more than what i'm concerned about just any kind of crud that's sitting on top of there let's go give her a couple of rotations now let's even get all the way around let's get more crap on the flywheel i think that's a good listen too you know to hear anything you might have a uh a decompression valve and sometimes they'll make a clanking noise all right let's go throw those two bolts back in we'll throw the plug back in it will see if we get any compression if not we'll have to open it up and see what we get i was at a truck show barrington new hampshire this is one of the bigger east coast truck shows there was when i was leaving there was a guy there with like a bw dune buggy i guess you call them doodlebugs i call this a doodlebug also doodlebug's kinda like a homemade tractor it's kind of wartime where tractors were not available because everything went to the war effort so people would take like model a's models he's cut them up and make tractors out of them well this guy used a vw bug and uh like a vw bug style of this but with the transmission coming out of the vw he did the exact same thing just like a little eight horsepower engine going out of it and he just had uh one of those farm uh slow vehicle moving signs up he drove it there i don't know how far he went but when i left the show i was probably four or five miles from the show and he was putting down the shoulder of a main road you know so somebody had definitely had their their wits about them for balls i should say feel a little kind of yeah there we go now it's going the first couple times we were getting nothing it's bouncing off of it which is good so this is going to have a a coil for spark behind the flywheel yeah it's got a good bounce off of it you have a a coil behind the flywheel magneto and then the points should be in a box right here so there'll be a set of points under here which sends the signal out to fire then usually it's like a kill button right there to shut it off that's how you would shut it off i say we have to go pull that flywheel off i want to go check i'm sure there's mouse crap nest behind her anyway let's see if we can get a puller up on this we'll get this popped off of here and take a better look what's behind there i have some stuff but i don't have bolts very long to go catch that so before i start trying to search for stuff let's go try put a little bit of pressure on it find a good spot we'll just give it a whack in the center sometimes that's good enough to get it sometimes not let's go give her there i thought it was moving nope it's about the longest bolt i got and i'm not crazy about how many threads i'm catching it by let's get a little pressure on it though so we get there we go with impact gun center got oil on it it's greased up pretty good yeah let's um grab ourselves an impact sock and run it with that a couple of rabbit tats will shake it loose ah there we go i thought watching a one bolt band was like it's not going to do it all right see what we get cracked i don't know if that's just the outer casing probably hopefully that's just some insulation as long as it makes spark right that's all we're concerned about i'm gonna go clean up some of the crap that is in here actually hold your breath see one of these before this might be when you go to rotate it it might be the ones that that give like a snap when it goes across kind of like a a magneto i feel like it's real probably should get the plug out of it huh not fighting compression good probably read it huh caution do not ever remove clamp magnetize something clamp in place so i guess that loses loses its magnetism sometimes you have to do that looks like it's adjustable too for the timing it's got a little bit of slots on there you can kind of rotate get a little bit out of it let's go get that points cover off we'll take a peek over there what's going on with that and uh possibly clean them up and maybe we'll just put the mag back on there the follow back on after we clean it and see if it does anything looking to see if i don't physically see a magnet on there though huh so it must be not using the flywheel to create it must be between it's not the outside which is normal is the outside here which does it you must work between here and here to run spin the magnet so it probably doesn't even need the flywheel to make spark although we needed to kind of spin it but i don't think so maybe we can rig something up to uh spin this with the flywheel off just to get a look at what we got probably clean up those surfaces in between then it does feel like it's rubbing yeah that's the belt behind it which i can hear kind of making some noises yeah something's got a lot of dragon take the belt off i want to say it's in there that's doing it that's oh yeah a lot of rub to it i see some crap go grab a light see some crap [Applause] down the side down that's like melted melted goo of that coil it could be that now as you can see it's got play on the bottom it you know should probably check the oil on it too they're plugging it somewhere let's go pop that out of there see what that looks like watch it's like all full of water getting all the crap settles to the bottom anyway if it sits for a long time but at least there's not water in it and it's full that's a good sign all right let's go get that points cover off right above it this guy off you'll get some light on it pull that back missed it what do you think all green and fuzzy they're gray and fuzzy and green or gray i'm gonna go with gray they actually don't look bad get some crap on [Music] that gray gray with a a hint of green yeah i don't think they were definitely going to make any spark let's go see if we had a point gap there you go there we are opening yeah i can see myself a little cruddy let's uh i'm going to run a file on them right there should pop them out and clean them i'll decide before i forget to show you later so that that stop button just pushes that brown tab that brown tab just rests up against where the wires are going it just grounds out right to that post right there and shuts it down for uh no spark simple i just got some brake clean i kinda wanna stay away from oils and what's this uh about 320 grit or something let's see if we can get in there close them up again a little dragon [Applause] can i close them up part way let's open them up again get another piece got to get some lady files there you know little fingernail files i at least forget i'm exactly on the top of my list when you're thinking going into the does cvs look at you funny i said we're gonna go pick away at that for a while and i'll save you the hassle of watching me go ch do my best to whittle away at that and see if we can get a good contact going across them and stick out some way to go spin the motor see if we can actually get some spark out of it see if they'll blow some air around that maybe it's just some crap in there i see some white crap just shot out we need to spin that direction which kind of sucks cause it's going to spin the nut off so we could probably use the nut to run it i can't could probably just wrap a rope around the back pulley maybe for now maybe just wrap a rope around that and get a little bit of a spin out of it see how that works out for us you guys already have a better view than i do let's see what we get see if this will work first of all i hadn't seen anything did you one of the other videos people were talking about i think it was what was i working on the four-stroke chiller the four-stroke uh weed whacker guys i'm saying that you can see the spark plane is day on camera it showed up then you when you looked at it by naked eye wouldn't show though i am not seeing anything plus it pulls over really weird we got to try to figure out what is causing that drag on us i know all this stuff is so dirty and cruddy yet but we're missing it somewhere i heard you let's go try it with a plug from this century i did not see anything one time now let's go go get a meter and we'll go probe the set of points we'll see if we're getting an on off signal coming from those points so the points are physically open right now of course it's showing actually where are we on now we need to be on ohms that's not going to work for us anyway so we're looking pretty much a close to circuit open circuit but the points are open i got to get these wires off of here to eliminate them and then i'm just going to go probe from this point to ground anywhere on the body and just make sure that those open and closed right now it's supposed to be an open circuit but the coil and the condenser are in that circuit with the wires on there let me get rid of them all right so now those wires are off let's go try that again so we just want to go on right there and anywhere in the body and it should stay open can you see the meter and it's open then when we turn it so that they close that should close and it did so the points are doing what they should they are opening and closing let's go bounce it off of that again open closed the points are working nothing saying the condenser is doing what it's supposed to be doing and or that coil or magneto that we looked at i have a feeling that that is suspect so let's get if we have any wires that are funky on there another thing is we don't want to ground like this should be isolated right here that if that touches that's grounded to the body that's going to be an issue too [Applause] and this is the ground side of that coil right there those little wires coming off they need to be grounded on that side i mean we'll try taking that little nut off right there get some fluid on there so we don't break that but it's rubbing does it kind of look like it's offset to you too doesn't look there's more of an air gap here than on the bottom and it's causing it to rub we get underneath take a look we just got a bunch of rust to clean off of it yeah there don't like what that what this melted looking stuff is though i don't know what's going on with that almost like the coil melted itself down and dripped down below okay i think that's what happened huh that's probably what all this stuff is all that potting that came off of there and then rubbing it's not going to work for us maybe we could loosen these three up i don't want to i'm just trying to be real fragile with those wires though you know i don't want to bust them hmm uh a little light gets you hold on let's go see if we can rotate that see what it looks like okay run some sandpaper scotch bread over that we'll clean that crap off of there but it definitely looks like there's no air gap between there at all right it looks pretty tight that's a rub yeah i wonder if we loosen those bolts up we can get it just to kind of go a little bit center of it so get that one off let's go see what we got this should still be unhooked yes it is so that wire should be not grounded see if we get a not grounded signal hmm that's high that's in the meg that said like 10 ohms or something to be an issue that's a half million ohms right there all right let's go see the stud sticking out that should be open and isolated and not grounded out same thing that's up and really high and then this one here's the one that's going across the coil so that one should have uh like 30 ohms maybe is a guess and that's not good that should that's the windings going across the coil that coil might be open internally try it getting a better bite on it essentially from this wire to this wire it's just a bunch of windings going across it and you do get some resistance on it we are not getting a good number open let's go try right on the wires himself and right on cue the compressor decides to make noise let's make sure our meter's working yeah yeah that is not good that is a dead coil that might have been what it was uh taken out of commission for right there lost spark and it got parked you know gorgeous age the fact that i we see all that stuff down below that dripped out that kind of was indicating that there was a definitely an issue all right let's see if we can get that screw out of there and get the the three off of the outside here see if this whole thing will slide back for us and get a better look at it so i think this is going to have to come off first kind of eyeballing from behind that the aluminum gets smaller than what this is but let's go give her a couple of love taps if you break it free what is that will that pop off of there is that got like two little clips that flip up and this section comes out it kind of looks like a move didn't it i don't break that one kind of looked like that was a clip that was holding yeah there you go i like working on something i've never worked on before [Applause] it's a good education magnet works and i think it just blew out chunks though what was that where'd that go is that part of that bracket let's go see if we can wiggle that wire out of there looks like it's got some kind of a cloth going around it and then it it leaked out right here it leaked out all the tar the tar bits on it at least you can see the top of that magnet now with some i don't know if we can get that all the way out of there but got a bunch of electrical tape on it let's go see if we can put that to the side and can we rotate that now get a better look at what's happening here here's that tar i was talking about leaked down i don't feel rubbing anymore and go clean that up the problem is we need one of these it has a bubble a couple of bubbles sticking out right there too and i don't have one of these is there anything else we can replace it with what else can we like a regular modern more modern magneto problem is like i said they usually fire off the magnet that's up in the flywheel not down here like this one is you could tear it apart try to find where the break of the wire is and rewind it and all that kind of happy stuff i really don't know if i want to get into that let me have to go do some homework and see what's available for this if you can find a part number or anything i'm sure there's a model number on here we can look up yeah let's um let's buzz it out from this case i'm making a mistake it might be a primary secondary circuit those wires are not supposed to have resistance across them let's go check them to the body i just might be making an error i'm assuming something i should not be assuming still in the meg let's go check the other side wire wheel wouldn't hurt on this either just opened yeah it's just an open circuit i'm gonna take a wire wheel and clean off some of this craps and try and get a good ground on there just before i condemn it make sure i'm not doing that doing it this justice that a word should really be open on this anyway i'm pretty sure that it's going across these windings is what we want to see not to the core but plus i got to keep my fingers off of it because you'll you'll your body can be work as a ground do we just get do we just get the number we're looking for we just get zeros across it that's about what we're supposed to be getting i wonder if moving the wires around gave us anything you know what i mean like right on the very ends of them that we're kind of wiggling a little bit i'm going to go clean some stuff up we're going to go pop that back together and then we're going to go try it one more time so i got it cleaned up you know the two clips that locked it down we have these but what do you think this did this fell out of it i don't know if it was from something else maybe it's not even four for this maybe it just fell in or broke off somewhere too i don't see an area it was kind of like what like right down in this area wasn't it like stuck under there maybe that's what was rubbing yeah i see we go we try to put it back together without it see we get is that robin is that fair wire right there let's see if this all fit right back down in there again so that's got to go let's go pull that up and around and that one goes over there well the magnet's still good yeah i don't see a place for that do you where that little piece would have come off yeah i don't know i didn't do without it for now though so was it like that or the other way around should we go like that i say we put it back together one more time we'll put the screws back in it will put those wires back on and we'll give it a spin again see what we get and we got lucky all right let's try it again i didn't see anything looks like it's rubbing like it did though i definitely think that little metal clip that was down inside there was causing us an issue you can get around one more time nah i'm not seeing anything and a couple i know are going to say that you know you got rust here and there that's kind of causing you don't have a clean surface on a spark plug on this end of it sparks going to jump it does rust on here or not this is not the the gap between here is not going to do it you could literally get rid of the spark plug and you could hold that wire you know that far away and it should jump going across it you know good quarter inch and uh jump that arc so the fact that there's a little bit of crud or something between here it really doesn't do anything to it it'll arc right across that just not on this one hey i think i might be noticing my mistake i'm pretty sure i saw him when he wrapped the rope around he wrapped the rope this way and looking at that way that knot is that rope is supposed to go clockwise around that whoops let's go try spinning it the other direction see what we get hopefully we get sparked let's see what we get nothing i'm going to try hooking a drill of some sort up to the front see if we can spin it on the nut get a little bit of rpms out of it all right see what we get [Applause] we get nothing we got dead battery oh no spark nope the only last thing i can try and do is change the condenser i'm pretty much convincing myself though that that magneto is uh just about done unfortunately all right so i threw another condenser on there and i bypassed the wiring of the red wire down here the wire coming from the condenser coming over has like a metal jacket on it and just in case that was an issue we're gonna bypass that with a jumper wire let's go see what we get now [Applause] unfortunately i'm pretty much now convinced that uh that coil is just so so searching my stash not sure if this engine is the same it's got the same external kill wire for the points i'm not sure if it's going to have the same flywheel magneto and everything in there so there's that one this one over here this looks like it might be a tecumseh but i wonder if we could do a repower on this super start and it's got that starter generator on it we talked about the shaft looks like it could be the right size hmm decisions let me be stumped but we're not out so i'm going to go search for the parts on that and see what is available this looks more modern so i don't think the insides of that's going to be the same it will have a magneto but i have a feeling it's the coils mounted up here so we can peek in anywhere yeah that one's mounted on top so that's not going to work for us well guys it wasn't for lack of trying if i had the capacity to get sparked i think we could have got her fired up but it's just not in the cards right now i haven't given up we have other options to go do you know i'm not just gonna throw it away and cry worst case we'll repower it with something else but i'm gonna go try chasing that magneto see if i can find one how much they are that kind of thing i got a couple of uh engines at home possibly i have one i kind of doubt it i give that about a five percent success rate on it but you never know i'm gonna go about that and uh as far as this video i think we're done unfortunately i was hoping to have it running fire mixed smoke and giggle like a school girl and all that kind of stuff but just not gonna happen this time but uh hopefully we can continue on shortly with this and uh have us putting around like uh good old green acres all right guys until the next one i'll see you later thanks for hanging out with me and i have a little bit of fun wrenching dragging old junk from underneath houses and trying to revive them till then i'll see you bye engine stash what we got is a wisconsin and it looks like it's got to be about the same horsepower shaft looks a little bit bigger and for elderly engines i'm trying what else we got i don't think we got much more there's just sure there is a couple of snowblower engines we could possibly use one of those like like an eight or ten over there there's another one here what's this one probably an eight somewhere we have the one that youtuber gave us that whole big heavy ass briggs wonder where that ended up yeah that might be a little too much i think it's the one that we did hey but it weighs a ton we got for a shack shaft looks like it might be the right size hmm that would kind of go with that machine too now wouldn't it what's it got for spark let me know what the engine is that was like a briggs bb or something like that that might be in our our victim and for 20 bucks delivered in a few days they make a replacement coil looks like you just got to use your core going through the center of it over again and it should bring back our spark and continue to see if we can save that engine awesome it ain't dead yet [Applause] are you sick where's your stick yeah what [Applause] where you going hey that's all right

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Published: Sun Apr 11 2021