- Just gotta, and we do
like computer tricks. - [Man] Aww, no, don't!
- That'll be the next big... Today, we're gonna be
building the fast gaming PC that money can buy. But we do that pretty often here. What's unusual is cramming
a water-cooled RTX 3090 with 16 CPU cores in a case this size. That's right, our gaming
PC is gonna be so small. It makes the new
generation consoles blush. Wait, why do they blush
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link in the video description. (lively music) The original plan was actually
to make this video months ago with a pre-production version
(metal clanging) of Winter's first case, the aptly named Winter
One, but one small problem. Our computer didn't fit in
it, but fast forward to today and they've set themselves apart from other manufacturers by
remarkably taking our feedback and integrating it into
version 1.2 of the Winter One, which I guess would be the Winter 1.2. "To Linus, please open after
the review to avoid bias." Well, too late, I've already got bias. Get it? 'Cause two cheeks. - [Man] So do you want
the price info right now? - Full marks for
presentation by the way guys. Ah, sure. How much does one of these
cost me to build myself? - [Man] So base price is $450. And with all the extras
(indistinct), this is $570. - I mean, by the time you're
buying this kind of hardware, I guess (coughs) it's
not a big deal, but okay. - [Man] The finish on this one's amazing. - [Linus] Oh my goodness. Like me, you might be
wondering why at this price, the case can't come pre-assembled for you. And fortunately, the answer is a good one. If you were to build a
water-cooled system in it, you actually need to build the system into the pieces of the
case while you assemble it or there's no way to get
them inside, that's why. So we will begin with step one. Oh, wow, so you install
a motherboard right away. And then the graphics card right away. Warning do not skip. In preparation, I've already
taken the top bracket off of the CPU mount, and
we're just gonna put our 5950X in there, a little something like that. Now obviously, to go
with the ultimate CPU, we need the ultimate RAM.
(clicking) So we've gone with this kit of 5,100 megahertz
Ballistix Max from Crucial. It actually results in worse performance than using slower memory
with better timings. But this rig isn't about making sense. More megahertz. And continuing that theme we've gone with the fastest storage money can buy with the two terabyte Samsung 980 Pro SSD. This'll be running at full
PCI Express Gen 4 speed. And as you guys can see, even though there's no
chonky heat sink on it, it has a fan for active cooling. So I would be very surprised
if we experienced any kind of thermal throttling.
(screwing) Of course, speed isn't everything. You've also gotta have somewhere to store your Call of Duties. You know what I'm saying? So we've got a Sabrent
Rocket Q 8 terabyte SSD that we'll be installing in the back. That gives us a total
of 10 flippin' terabytes of storage baked right
onto our motherboard. Now I just need to find
the motherboard tray. There it is, wow! It's solid.
(Linus in shock) This is like thick fricking solid metal. I feel like I'm making
a pizza, not a computer. Got my computer, just
gonna put in the oven. All right, let it cook for a little bit. Bake. One thing Winter could improve, I know they're technically higher quality, but I absolutely hate non-ferrous screws (screwing)
just makes the assembly process more
difficult for no reason. That's it, that's your
computer right there. Ladies and gentlemen, and we do like computer tricks, that'll be the next big craze on YouTube.
- [Man] Oh, no, don't. (man wheezes)
- Well, it's not gonna come
out, you know, it's not. - [Man] I'm not worried about
it falling off the thing - Ah, now for the warning, do not skip. They want you to boot up the machine at this stage for two reasons. Number one, because
extracting a defective part at the end of the build is gonna be extremely
time-consuming and difficult. And number two, you need to reconfigure this PCI Express slot
to run it Gen 3 speeds. Because the riser that they've got (bag rustling)
is not a Gen 4 capable riser. (bag smacking on table)
So we've already done that. Next piece I need, this puppy right here. Get that, okay. God, the machining is just
so clean on this thing. Oh my goodness, this
is unlike any computer I have ever built before.
(screwing) And that's really saying something. Look at that, slides right into the little slot there.
(screwing) Oh, interesting. There's actually a big enough gap to like jam my ruler in
(metal scraping) at the top and the bottom. Now it's time for a PCI Express riser, which goes in, a little
something like that. Oh, this is really tight.
(screwing) - [Man] They did not waste a millimeter. - [Linus] No, they really didn't. Oh, wow. Wow, okay. The next step is installing
the graphics card already. We've gone with the EK Water Blocks Edition
of ASUS' G-Force RTX 3090 for a handful of reasons. Number one,
(plastic bag rustling) because it's a 3090, it's the fastest freaking
card money can buy. Number two, it is
pre-water blocked with this or just block from EK that's
gonna save us some time. Number three, it uses the square version of this piece that goes
at the top of the block. Instead of the one
that's angled like this. That's really important because we're not gonna
have enough clearance for the other version. Now, you can convert the other version to this one with a belt sander,
but in a build like this, I don't think you wanna do that. How the hell does this work? That's a small oversight. They assumed my card would have
a double-wide PCI backplate, but it doesn't, so now I just have a gap. Fortunately, I build a lot of stuff and I have a lot of random
stuff kicking around. So I've got this double-wide PCI cover that I'm just gonna chuck in there that shouldn't look too out of place. Oh, gosh, that's tight. This seems like a cheesy solution given the otherwise,
premiumness of the build, but I don't have a better one, so I'm just gonna put a little bit of black tape here to hold this down. (Linus sighs) Wow, that is a really nice power button. Oh, my God, wait, it's
on a kale blue switch. That is hilarious. Now it's time for the power supply bracket and this is a cool story. They actually changed the
location of the power button based on our feedback, because
we wanted to be able to install a crazy 1200-watt,
not quite properly, SFX-L power supply and moving it just a little bit out of the way. Made all the difference. Now it's time for the first of our two water cooling
radiators, somehow. We're using dual 120s,
but this is really cool. If you use the right ones, right
now, Corsair is compatible. You can actually do two 280
millimeter rads in this thing. One area where Winter could stand to improve their instructions though is in the orientation of the
leads coming off your fans because the case isn't yet assembled. So you have no context for
where this is going to go, unless you flip forward, so I determined that I think the best spot for this one is coming off
to this side like this. And we gotta just screw
this assembly together. With that assembled, now it's time for- oh, I
wish they'd label this stuff. Which one? They are identical, confirmed. Okay. Oh my goodness, these feet. (Linus sighs) Cork bottom, solid machined aluminum and doesn't cost as much
as the ones on the Mac Pro. So this whole case costs less
than a Mac Pro set of wheels. Take that loser. How am I supposed to do this? I need three hands. (metal scraping) - [Man] Do you have the
whole thing upside down? - No, no, it's right side up. Yeah, I have the whole thing upside down. (screw falls) (Linus frustratingly chuckles) Okay. (Linus imitating flying
and shooting noise) (Linus laughs) That looks super uneven. Oh, fittings, oh, goodness. (Linus groaning)
That's tight. Okay. (object clatters) (Linus screams) Hold on, one moment please. If this is identical then when this goes here,
it must be identical. (metal clanging)
(Linus screams lightly) Like that.
(Linus groans) Now this puppy is gonna go on here. How the f am I supposed to get at these fittings to tighten them? What did you go fetch just now? And this will only make
the situation worse. Here's the pass-through
for our power supply, which is going to make it
quite literally impossible to get at this one. We have to run this tube now, which is a perfect
opportunity to show you guys this incredibly cool swiveling
90 degree angled fitting from coolants. Now normally a 90 degree
fitting would have about this profile that
will not work in this case. So in order to make this thing, they actually made it out of two pieces. This block that's kinda
bored out down the center, and then the centerpiece
with two O-rings here. So it goes into the top
of our GPU like this. And then we're basically just relying on O-ring lube to swivel it. So I would never recommend
swiveling it this way. Although technically it could work. I love it. Now we just gotta put this on here. Oh my goodness, this is nuts. If the fan wasn't on
here, it'd be pretty easy. Just gotta, kinda friction turn it. On the one side here,
just gotta get that up. Ah, there we go.
(Linus sighs) Okay, that's what we call
the old friction turn. We need lower profile
compression fittings as well. This is not going to fit. Oh, crap, our regular profile ones are not gonna fit on here either. (machine whirring) Just don't get your
weiner in here, all right? (Linus in shock) Absolutely perfect. Now we're in action. Do I have the fittings in the right spot? Route tubing and cables
before mounting power supply. Wait, it wants you to fill the loop now? We haven't even put the other rad in yet, but that's the end of the instruction. How does that work? Oh, I guess this is as good a time as any to show you guys this incredibly cool block pump
reservoir combo from Barrow. It's got a DDC pump, which
as much as I'm not a huge fan of the DDC series compared
to the D5 is a heck of a lot better than the
generic no-name pumps you often find on these
sorts of solutions. Then you've got this acetal
piece here in the middle and finally a copper cold plate
that you just kinda put on, whichever mounting bracket you need and goes on the bottom and
is sealed with an O-ring. I guess the rad just like goes on now, but then- hold on a second, if I have a radiator in here, how the devil am I supposed
to screw in the power supply? I'm trying to figure out how the mounting hardware
goes into the AMD back plate. And we might have a bit of a problem. - [Alex] There's a bag
for, it just says, AM4 and use for AMD plateform, but it's empty. So...
(Alex laughs) - I think we've got a solution. So let's put some
thermal compound on here. And-
(Linus clears throat) There are gonna be those of you who don't like it, but
basically, it's 632 threading. We've got tons and tons of 632 bolts. So we threw a plastic washer on there and we're doing a hard mount. For better or for worse, it's on there. And holy crap. That is why we needed to use
this low-profile AIO solution. A, B, C, wait, what the crap? Why don't, if they're gonna laser... You already put the work into lasering it. Which one is which, do you know? - [Man] They use Phil. - And then be a Sandra. Wait a minute, Alex. This is a full-sized ATX power supply. It's yeah, it's a small one, but it's ATX. - [Alex] So like I was saying, we're using this
thousand-watt power supply. - [Linus] Oh, wait, did we? Why is that one here? Nicholas! Before we go any further
with the water cooling, it's time for us to start plugging in some
of our power supply cables. Everything looks so clean, until you start putting
the power supply cables in. Oh my goodness, this is so fricking tight. There we go, see you later. Just gonna bend this down
(objects clattering) so it doesn't stick into the fan. (Linus chuckles) Damn. This is ridiculous. How many fittings do you
want for your CPU block? Yes. We're going full mad lad
today, ladies and gentlemen. I think I can do it. Just need to get it. Oh, yes, okay, we're in. (Linus groaning) Nice. (machine whirring) (Linus screams) Okay, how's that look? Okay. I need another right angle, actually, one of the EK ones. Oh, no, the other one is over here. Oh, you know what? Actually, I think we can do this. I did another dual 90 over here. It's not the greatest thing ever. Call it a 180. The main benefit of this approach
is flatness and that's it. (Linus chuckles)
(machine whirring) (Linus sighs)
Oh my goodness. Wow, we are getting real
close, ladies and gentlemen. You've gotta be kidding me. What the hell is this? Oh, and now we need a Molex connector. Oh, no. Alex, what do I do? Well it's for RPM sense, so that your computer can
automatically shut down if your pump fails. Kinda important, frickin'. You know what? I give up on RPM sensing on it though. Crap. No, no, I got this, I got this. Oh, oh, my God, I think I got it. Holy crap, they're in. All right.
(Linus cheers) We ready? I'll use this power supply that totally doesn't fit to prop it up. Do we have our funnel handy? Oh, wow, look at that.
(Linus gets amazed) Mkay. My hope is that this'll fill
relatively quickly and easily because- oh, it's already full. It's already full, it's already full. - [Alex] Yeah, but I mean
like we need to be real ready. - [Linus] Oh. Oh, I see. - [Alex] Because like we
don't have a reservoir. - [Linus] Okay, sure. Okay, all right. Yeah, punch it. - [Alex] Okay. (object whining) - [Linus] Something sounds mad. - [Alex] Yeah, what's whining at us? - [Linus] Cut, cut.
(white noise) Turns out this doesn't look
exactly like a DDC internally, so we need to figure
out exactly what it is. But before I do that, I want to figure out if it works and I've
never done this before. So, yeah, be ready to cut
this off immediately, Alex. (clicking)
(machine whirs lightly) Okay, it works. Well now, I'm tempted to just frickin'. I mean, how much water could
possibly come out of here? (machine whirring) Go pumpy boy. What the shazbot is going on here? New idea. So that tells us there's water there. So what is going on? Wait, I didn't plug it in. (Linus laughs loudly) - [Alex] Linus.
(Alex laughs) - [Linus] Okay, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right. Everyone just chill, okay, just- - [Alex] Oh.
- [Linus] Oh. - [Alex] Whoop, oop, water.
- [Linus] Hey, there we go. I hear movement.
(Linus sighs) Nice. - [Alex] Oh, there is a big bubble. - [Linus] Let's give it a little tip, while it's powered off, sometimes, I find you get
really big bubbles that way. - [Alex] There we go. - [Linus] Maybe try reorienting it a bit. (machine whirring) Without spending another hour
tilting and tipping it around to get these air bubbles out, I think this is about
the best we're gonna do. If this is my system
to daily drive forever, I would just sit and let it run like this for like a few days because you can see, we're just getting these tiny, tiny little
bubbles coming out of it. And once they're up here in
the tube, they can't get out. We're just gonna call it good enough and get as much of the water
out of this tube as we can. Pack it with paper towel and
do a quick fittings flop here. Okay, stop. Yep, yep, that's good, that's good. Okay, whew. Oh yeah, that's the good stuff. Let's cable manage this puppy. There we go. (cable clatters) Do, do, do, do do. Oh, wow, that's really frickin' tight. Ah, oh, my goodness. They tell you to pre-attach the cables, but they don't say how you're supposed to get it in there with
the cables pre-attached. What the crap? Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, hold on. (Linus groaning) Oh, God. Wait, are you sure this power supply fits? Thanks to some movie magic. We got it flipped around and
got the power supply in there. All we had to do was move this radiator around the other way. Shorten this extension,
shorten all the tubes and right, change these fittings. (Linus groans)
I just got it. I'm doing some- (Linus sighs)
Wait, not this. Oh, crap. Then we just need to kinda... (Linus groans)
Give it a (indistinct). Push on it. Yeah, yep, put that in there. (Linus groans)
Tighter. Jam in here. Oh, yeah. Check it out Brandon, it's
actually not that terrible. And I think both of these fans still spin. Oh, crap, this one doesn't. (Linus laughs lightly)
So tight. (Linus screams) All four of them can spin. Now, all we need to do is put- Okay. Okay.
(Linus groaning) Oh, wow, that's really frickin' tight. Not even in the way that
I thought it would be against the front here. Holy crap, it is touching. It is literally... Okay, no, there we go, okay, it's in. - [Man] This thing is so compact. - I don't even want the
280 mil rads, you know. This is enough.
(Linus sighing) Now the only challenge
that remains is that part of that process was draining the loop, so we get to do that all over again. All right, hold on. Here we go. Ah, oh, (beep) this tubing is not like it's not grabbing enough. (beep) it, pulled this one out too. (beep) off. (beep) off. What I really want is
the right size tubing, but I will settle for a longer one. - [Man] Yes.
- Fortunately, we found some quick connects lying around and we're able to take a page out of AIO manufacturer's playbook by doing a little something called this. (machine whining) Why are you not? Oh.
(Linus groans) The other one's going dry and
this is not plugged in, Alex. Wait, it is plugged in. Why is it not going? (beep) off, just spin. Okay, hold on. (beep) off.
- [Alex] Oh. (machine whirring) - Yeah, that pump is not working or is it? Did it do something? - [Alex] Yeah, it's working. - [Linus] It's working? How's that even possible? Hello? Hello? (beep), it's leaking. - [Alex] What is?
- [Linus] Right here. Oh, Alex. (Linus screams lightly and excitedly) The thing, the thing that's part of the rad, this, it's not in. No, that doesn't seal. - [Man] Why would it not seal? - [Linus] 'Cause it doesn't. (beep) So we're gonna turn the machine off. Swap the pump. Take off.
(clicking) Oh, God, why is this
quick connect not working? What the heck? - [Man] That's really not
what it's supposed to do. - These quick connects are dead. Dang it. Stop, stop, stop, stop,
stop, stop, stop, stop. (man wheezes) Frickin' really? You know. Well, I still don't think
we lost enough water that it's gonna be a huge problem. And I still recommend this method for filling a reservoir-less
system like this. You just need to make sure you get new quick connect
fittings that work. Okay, here we go. (clicks) (machine whirring) You piece of sh- - [Man] If you turn it
off and turn it back on, do you think the bubbles will leave or like just get trapped
somewhere that's not a problem? - Why? And we can't use the colder ones because the fitting size
is not correct, right? Ah, come on. After spraying the
fittings with Fluid Film, I think this is gonna work. So we're gonna pop that. You have gotta be kidding me. Well, this one worked,
so that's a good sign. - [David] The loop is still draining. - Okay, so this is it,
then, the moment of truth. - [Man] Put it higher.
- No, no, it's fine, it's fine, we got- oh, God. (man laughs) I just need to, no,
David up here, up here. I gotta put the thing in the thing. Oh.
(Linus gets amazed) Here it comes. We're pumpin'. There's still a little
bit of bubbles going, but like I said, if you
ran this for like a week, it would bleed out even
all these little bubbles and you'd have a perfectly full loop. As it is, we are closing it up and we're gonna get some
thermal results now. (Linus laughs)
It's finally built. Put on like side panels and stuff, right? - [Man] Yeah. (Linus in shock) - Oh, yeah, this thing is absolutely sick. - [Man] It's so good.
(Linus and man laughing) - [Linus] Wow, that is sick! I love it. Okay, let's do another. One hit's not enough. This is the drug that is
like addictive, you know. Look, sometimes I had talked without thinking about talkspurts. (man laughing)
Okay, this is a little- (metal clanging)
Ooh, no, you bastard. I won't.
- [Man] Damn. - This is a super cool case. (intense and lively music) Even just launching the game, we put Noctua industrialPPC fans in here and we haven't tuned the fan curves. So these fans are just... They make a breeze under the case here. - [Man] Yeah, what are
our temps right now? Just idle. - Ah, I like 43 degrees on the CPU. - [Man] All right, not bad. - We are in good shape,
ladies and gentlemen. We got Cyberpunk 2077. Notoriously heavy to run at 1080p with ray tracing set to ultra. And we are running at
over 60 frames per second. Okay, I know it's 1080P, but ray tracing ultra. Look at the lighting. It's crazy. Look at this guy, oh, poor guy. Oh, it's awful. The humanity. It's like, how is this game still a meme? I mean, they did fix the
bug where the cops just literally apparate behind you when you break a law or whatever. They said, they did. - [David] Yeah, they didn't. - Oh, they- okay, well, whatever. I don't actually play this game 'cause no one plays this game. Here, our GPU's at 43 degrees. (man laughs) Did the water cooling work? I think that's a big fat heavy yes. And our CPU's at 67 degrees, which is actually a little higher than I might've expected,
but still easily respectable. I don't know too much about the actual design
of this Barrow CPU block. So it might just not be an amazing walk and that might be perfectly normal. You know what else is perfectly normal? Me getting little
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If you guys enjoyed this video and you like watching us
cram crazy gaming rigs into tiny, tiny cases,
it wasn't water-cooled, but there's an even smaller one we did a while back, where I actually had to like put all my weight on
it in order to close the case. You need to go watch that one. It's pretty funny.
I have a barrow cpu pump res combo block.
You fill it by pouring it into the block in the fill port. Just put the case on it’s back and fill.
I feel like Linus made us super complicated to fill. I had zero problems in my first build with a barrow block and I was a noob to watercooling
The price seems like a joke, even considering that most sff cases are very expensive, this is just on another level.
The case is way overpriced for what it is. There is definitely more than a 33% markup on this.
The fact that it is flat packed should have reduced the cost significant since shipping is not entirely based on weight, but also dimension (the space 4-5 of these takes up the room of say 1 NR200 in a shipping container). The Geeek cases are also proof of this.
The amount of CNC milled parts in this is not that expensive to produce. Especially compared to say a Ncase or a Mjollnir.
Doesn't even use a Gen4 PCIE riser.
yeh sorry but imma just wait for a dan c4
cnc aluminum + questionable but pretty CFD sims is great and all but shit dude 500 bucks for a case is too much.
The case is well thought out but 500 bucks.
That is straight up a build
The issue with price is because of the low volume of the case. They simply do not have the economy of scale to lower the price. Meshlicious/ncase is partnered up with lianli, who has EOS to lower the cost as well as the fact that its sheet metal that's bent. There's only so few people in the company + lots of other cost considerations like the rising cost of aluminium that's skyrocketing. The formd t1 could only be priced as it is as they had pre-existing contracts with the factories iirc.
I'm not saying it's not expensive. It certainly is. But it's aimed squarely at people who are custom cooling their rigs, and these people have money to spend on a high end system, so a high end case is a consideration. And to date, there's no dual 280 sff case under 20L as far as I know.
Just look at it from this perspective; small-run custom alu cnc mechanical keyboards are often >$400. Not that surprising that a small run cnc alu case would cost similarly, ywah?
Disclaimer: I'm one of the future owners, just putting an opinion from the other side of the coin.
500 is a buttload for a case, and it’s probably still marked up quite a bit, but all that isn’t cheap.
Those cork feet are complete garbage though. If you’re CNCing the case parts, just throw in some solid lathed feet ffs.These kinds of videos give sff a bad name. 13.3 million subscribers and most of them just see this and go like wtf? 500 dollars for a big (by sff standards, looks like a ghost with two tophats) and expensive case that is a pain to build in...
You can get the same hardware in an ncase which would be easier to build in and smaller. This case and video are bizarre.
HAHAHAHAHA. No.