The SMALLEST ATX Build Yet - Ryzen 5900X in a 10L Case!

so zen 3 is out you guys already know how amazing amd's ryzen 5000 series of cpus are in fact if you're interested in our full performance review you can check it out right over here you see as i was testing these cpus i was really impressed by the performance and that really inspired me to build an editing workstation pc for myself to leverage all that power now that i've switched to davinci resolve full time and the higher sustained clock speeds that we've noticed should definitely come in clutch for my intense editing workflow and let's be honest it's also a fantastic gaming cpu definitely beating intel's high-end lineup which is just amazing but i also didn't want it to be a fully blown out atx tower i really like small form factor pcs and i'm taking that path once again in fact the case that's sitting right behind me is 10 liters in size and it can support a full size atx motherboard and a dual slot graphics card that's right a full-size atx motherboard inside a small form factor case so let's get to the parts list i hope you guys are excited just like i am in fact i want to thank gigabyte for supporting this build so let's get to it right after this you know 2020 has been tough let's not make our components suffer let them breathe let them relax with the eclipse air series by phanteks your hardware will appreciate the size options and you the experience available for every build at different scales and price points too they all share the ultra fine mesh front panels engineered specifically for best airflow with perforations of one millimeter that also act as a dust filter check out the p300a p360ap400a and p500a down below the perfect eclipse for 2020. all right so i wanted to get to the case initially because you guys might be wondering what am i even talking about a full-size atx motherboard inside a 10 liter chassis come on eber prove it well here it is my friends meet the sff time patx v2 and right off the bat you can tell the team behind this project we're focusing on four main factors compactness compatibility with most of the components available in the market right now unrestricted airflow and simplicity for compatibility this thing is really interesting you can have either a triple saw gpu with an itx motherboard a 370mm long double slot gpu with an atx board or an m8x board or a shorter 245 mm gpu like the rtx 3070 founders edition with an atx motherboard and a 120 millimeter aio cooler and to top it all off you can actually order one of these right now so we'll make sure to leave a link down below in case you're interested now for the processor we decided to go with the ryzen 9 5900x this is the second fastest zen3 cpu that amd has launched recently for the am4 platform featuring 12 cores and 24 threads and clock speeds that can boost up to 4.8 gigahertz now given that the cpu has a tdp of 105 watts finding the right cooler was a bit of a challenge now we could have gone with the noctua l9a chromax like we did with the 39d itx build but remember we ran that system in eco mode to keep temperatures under control so we didn't want to go that route in fact we decided to keep looking and looking and looking and we found this beautiful gem of an air cooler this is the thermal right axp100 full copper based downdraft air cooler just unboxing this thing and holding it for the first time made me feel like i was holding a piece of jewelry it weighs about 600 grams which might not sound like a lot on paper but for a low profile cooler you'll notice it instantly and it's built like a tank the design consists of six copper nickel plated heat pipes which is directly soldered onto the copper base plate for the best heat dissipation and it can support cpus with a tdp of up to 180 watts now you might be wondering why we went with this particular air cooler and the simple answer to that is the p80x case can only support a maximum cooler height clearance of 59 millimeters and after testing a bunch of air coolers this was the only cooler that was able to fit that criteria that can also adequately cool the 5900x with that 105 watt tdp spec housing the 5900x is gigabytes b550 vision d at first glance this is the most beautiful looking motherboard i've ever seen with a very clean aesthetic throughout the pcb but make no mistake this is purely targeted towards creators and reliability has been their top priority with this board so that means you can populate this with ecc memory up to 120 gigabytes it's also qlv tested with nvidia's quadro gpus which is an option we'll be exploring in another video there's two pci 4.0 slots for plenty of expansion and the best part is the i o i mean just look at it it's a content creator's dream with a plethora of usb 3.1 ports two thunderbolt 3 ports that can also be used to daisy chain up to 12 external devices including displays now thunderbolt is super rare to find on amd boards these days so this is a welcoming addition also you can redirect the display port from your graphics card to the motherboard and then use the thunderbolt port to connect it to a display and if you have built-in i o on that external device like a display it's simply a plug-and-play solution and everything would just work right away which is awesome the other cool feature is that it supports dual gigabit lan ports that support high bandwidth and low latency however i did wish if it came with a 10g port but that's something that an expansion card can address so that's that plus it also features wi-fi six so there's that for memory gigabyte has once again hooked us up with their designer 64 gigabyte kit with a memory speed of 3 200 megahertz for one the simple aluminum white heatsink matches the vision d motherboard really well and with 64 gigabytes this will be a huge upgrade for my intense editing sessions now for storage i went with the aorus 2 terabyte nvme gen 4 ssd this thing is insanely fast i mean the read write performance is just crazy high given that it's a gen 4 drive and they've included a copper heatsink spreader but we wouldn't be needing that since the vision d has that built in now for the graphics card this was pretty much an easy call we're going with the rtx 3080 founders edition it's a dual slot card which is compatible with the case including an atx motherboard and the airflow orientation works out perfectly with the case so the intake fan at the front exhausts hot air at the back and then on the other side the fan exhausts hot air through the perforations on the case's side panel we'll test out temperatures once we've completed the build but this just allows us to pop in a really powerful graphics card without worrying about case temperatures or really high case temperatures powering the whole system is corsair's sf 750 watts small form factor psu this should be plenty enough to power the 5900x and the rtx 3080 fe while also maintaining lower noise and it's fully modular plus corsair includes premium individually sleep cables which should make cable management a breeze so now that i've taken you through a complete rundown of the parts list let's put this thing together [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] all right so the build is complete and as usual i left it here at mike's place i had some some fun playing around with this one yeah whenever you leave something here something changes the next day it's so it's just a fact that i have to deal with it but um honestly um i really enjoyed my time building inside this case i want to say it's probably one of the easiest small form factor builds that i've ever done in a really long time so mike what was your what are your thoughts well you see you left it here and i did a couple things i tried different things with cable management because in an itx system like this cable management and getting those cables out of the airflow path is like one of the most important things that you can do especially when it comes to an air cooled system like this my only issue when it came to actually working in this is the rtx 3080 and where the power connector comes out of because here it basically makes a complete b line out from the card and yes you can route it upwards or you can route it sort of like in here but there it gets even messier and it comes into contact with other motherboard components i think that with the minimum amount of cables that we have especially with you know the sfx power supply that's fully modular so i only needed to bring in the 24 pin motherboard cable the cpu connector and then the gpu no sata cables no molex connectors you know no extra unwanted things that i needed so overall like i said it was so fast i mean i i was done and i was like wait is it actually done i mean is this all of it i'll go up can you talk about this in relation to your experience building something like the sentry because the sentry is actually what i'm using as my daily system right so from a uh okay i'll give it a great scale right so building the sentry i think i'd give it like a six and a half out of ten right i think it's a beautiful case it's so it's good it looks great uh but the fact that you had to deal with cable management i think that was the biggest challenges with that uh pc this nine out of ten like that's how good it is because sure it's a little bit bigger 10 liters versus 7.5 liters but but visually it this actually looks a little bit smaller in my opinion because of the because it's white it blends into more environments yeah then again that that sentry right now and i'm still working on modding a couple things in there i'm really jealous about this because it almost has the the perfect sort of passive airflow whereas i'm going to introduce a little bit more airflow into the sentry but i think one of your main problems building in that century wasn't i don't know if it's the case maybe i'm defending it so much because it's it's on my desk right now but it maybe it was due to the power supply and how rigid those cables are and i know a lot of you guys said look maybe look into modifying the cables a little bit so they are they're less rigid so maybe it was because of that probably but i don't worry about it in this build not a problem at all so i'm pretty happy with it guys so i guess i wanted to talk a little bit about the 5900x because it is a brand new processor on an existing platform and we are working right now with beta bios's actually as you're seeing this is probably the public bios and there's probably going to be a couple revisions between now and then so um the vision d is an amazing motherboard and the bios in there is something unique uh it's it's white it looks like the the motherboard itself but right now it does um at least with the core performance boost on it does tend to over vote the processor just a little bit more than this cooler could handle so i needed to go in there and modify a couple of uh the c states we are not using eco mode we're not cheating this time thank you optimum tech um it this it's running between 4.5 and 4.7 on an all-core load under 70 degrees right now and that is with only the one fan running but it's doing that with a cooler that eber had some problems with yeah let's talk about that cooler okay here's here's my thing right i love the heatsink the full copper plated i mean when you hold this thing it's it's it feels like you're holding on jewelry like i mentioned earlier but it's that fan i just can't i just can't i don't i don't feel like fully switching to this pc as my workstation because of that fan if i don't see it i know but you can still see accents of it so if i can't if i can if i can find a fan that can fit within that it's so it's 50 59 millimeters i think total cooler height 57 59 and then the but the fan itself has to be just 14 millimeters and as far as i can find and you've looked too it's this fan or a standard knock to and i don't think you're going to gain anything by going to another i'm not going to do that so i'm going to have to keep looking and if you guys have any suggestions let us know in the comments because i do not like that fan but hey it serves a purpose so for me it's it's function over form because this this cooler is technically rated at 180 watts i can challenge that a little bit because when i was using this thing with core performance boost on the motherboard enabled we were seeing 80 degrees 90 degrees and supposedly this is only 105 watt processor yeah so um and then the fan you the fan was operating at like a hundred percent yeah and this thing is allowed when it's operating 100 it's at 2400 rpm right exactly and that's another thing i wanted to mention is that right now we're achieving that under 70 degrees celsius at 4.5 to 4.7 uh at under 40 decibels which is really good it's really good considering that this case is open there's no tempered glass there's no baffles there's no nothing oh and it doesn't have any air air filters so basically it's unrestricted airflow definitely leads to a lot of maintenance for sure in the long term but uh hey i i'll take better temperatures over that so and i know what you guys are going to be asking now too is what about the gpu temperatures and that's something that i wanted to play around with again so the p80x case allows you to mount a single 120 millimeter fan right around this area behind the gpu and i thought to myself okay yep that's going to aid in the exhaust of the hot air from the rtx 3080 it actually didn't what ended up happening is the gpu remained at the same 64 degrees that we see it operating in an open test bench which is amazing and it achieved the exact same clock speeds that we saw in open test bench when we introduced that fan nothing changed what did change is the noise profile right the system actually got noisier under load i can hypothesize as to why that is and i think it's because the gpu fan is exhausting air at a different flow rate than the exhaust fan can actually exhaust it and that causes turbulence between the two fans so i actually think that you can run this system at least with the rtx 3080 without an exhaust fan there and nothing changed in terms of temperatures which is great i am like i said really jealous about ever for this this is probably going to be his editing station going forward you know uh his love for small form factor's cases and now it's sort of starting to become my love so um anyways ibra what are what are your sort of closing thoughts my closing thoughts is that now i have a more powerful system than you do except for the graphics card no i've got the 30 90 in there buddy oh right well yeah that's what i said i have a 3080 you have a 39d i've got a 5900x you've got a 3950x so until i make those until i make those mods yeah so let us know what you guys think about this build honestly i really enjoyed it um and yeah i'm more excited to build even more small form effective pcs so if you guys have any other suggestions in terms of checking out other cases we'd be more than happy to do that so thank you so much for watching and uh i'll see you guys in the next one see you guys

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Keywords: amd ryzen 9 build, corsair sf750, corsair sfx psu, gaming pc build 2020, gigabyte b550 vision d, gigabyte build, gigabyte designare memory, hardware canucks, hardwarecanucks, itx case, mini itx, pc build 2020, rtx 3080, rtx 3080 build, rtx 3080 build guide, rtx 3080 pc build, rtx 3080 ryzen, ryzen 9 5900x, ryzen 9 build, sff build, sff time p-atx v2, sfftime p-atx v2, small atx case, smallest atx case, thermalright axp 100 full copper

Id: KZW9poeSKAc

Length: 16min 26sec (986 seconds)

Published: Mon Nov 09 2020

Reddit Comments

[u/papa_de]

Great concept. More options is always good and this thing doesn't look half bad (although not a fan of the stand).

[u/lightofhonor]

Looks like a white Salvo Studio's S402

[u/VulpesFennex]

I'm using AXP100 full with 3700x, PBO is off no overclock and it reaches 80℃ when running AIDA64 fpu test. Does 5900x actually run cooler than 3700x？

[u/Dcore45]

dimensions are pretty close to a node 202. Seems to have solved the horrible cooling problems with those vents though. I would love to see a case like this with a nice horizontal mounting option

[u/MountieXXL]

Has anyone managed to figure out where the power button is yet?

[u/DJWikipedia]

I like it and I like the idea of being able to use an ATX mobo but... I don't really get the point of using an ATX mobo for it when you can't use any of the other PCIe slots anyway.

[u/cool--]

you can only use two coolers with this?

[u/SubieNoobieTX]

I wish I didn't just spend $140 on a 140m,m PSU so recently or else I'd buy this and re-home my Meshify C build.

[u/stinkycat45]

If you have to go ATX than yeah this is an awesome option. I considered it before I bought my Conswole, but personally Sliger has always been solid and even with all that's been going on I got my Conswole very quickly. The Conswole is 10.9L so no that much bigger and a little cheaper