Feb 21st Webcast: Water and Sewage Treatment Plant Design using Plant 3D

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hello everyone Eric Chappelle civil community evangelist for Autodesk and I'm here today with buddy legmen plant solutions subject matter expert for Autodesk and Buddies the star of our show he's going to talk to you today about water and sewage treatment plant design using Autodesk plant 3d so that's the part of the presentation we're really looking forward to before we get started though I just wanted to share a few things about our webcast series and about our civil engineering community first of all this series if you're if this is your first time here welcome we do this on the first and third Wednesdays of the month try to stick to that schedule as much as we can and we've been doing this in April it'll be three years so we've got a huge library of prior webcast recordings that you can look through I'll show you some details on how to get to those in just a moment but you know like I said this is something we've been doing for a while the main goal is to bring you folks the users of our products a little closer with us the makers of the products learn more about them kind of get an idea what's on our mind and what we're thinking about when we release the different features of the products and give you the perspective oftentimes of the product team but a lot of times as well we also have guest speakers not only do we have buddy with us today but in the background we will have ian matthew long-time expert in plant 3d as well answering questions and I'll be giving you details about those in a moment as well I also want to let you know about our next webcast which is coming up on March 7th same time 12:00 to 1:00 Eastern I'll be kind of hosting that webcast and this is kind of a special special follow-up we're calling it a postgame show to the infraworks design slam that took place at autodesk university last november and it was really really cool and exciting we had three customer contestants Matt Dan and Chris who went head to head they only had 15 minutes to design a development on Mars and we're going to talk to those guys I mean what they did was just amazing and that's why I asked them to come on and do kind of a an interview based show with us so they could tell us like how did they come up with this stuff how did they prepare for this how are they able to actually pull off designing the development that they did and what amounted to 15 minutes they had three five-minute rounds and so you're gonna hear from these guys there are tips and tricks how they prepared but the way they develop content you know how they how they thought about the project and these are three of the most advanced infraworks users anywhere so they've got some really good stuff to share and of course you'll be able to ask them questions and you know we'll get some some mindshare from some of the best infraworks users out there so watch for the registration information on that it's going to come in your email because you're registered for this webcast you're on our email list for upcoming webcast you can also look at the community community center civil - community autodesk comm and various social media outlets as well for information on that webcast so that's gonna be a lot of fun i'm looking forward to that webcast if you have ideas for topics for future webcasts please let us know what they are you can just jump into the questions panel on your GoToWebinar interface right now and say I'd love to see such and such as a future webcast topic we make a list of those every webcast and that helps us determine you know what what we want to present on in the future so please let us know what's on your mind there make sure you visit the Autodesk civil engineering community center this is something that I personally work on I'm very very proud of and excited about it's a central hub for all things civil engineering that that relate to Autodesk of course a lot about our software a lot of it comes from users of the software tips and tricks' webcasts that we've done webcasts that our partners do just tons and tons of content it's all it's based on what's most current and what's up-to-date so you'll see news up there and recent posts to the gallery from our customers things that are trending on social media it's just a a great site to check every day or at least a couple times a day to see what the buzz is about in the civil engineering community so definitely bookmark that page it's civil - community autodesk.com that's the place where you can actually go back and view all the recordings of our four-hour webcasts as well so just tons and tons of content there that sure to help you out I don't believe we're gonna get into anything preview or labs or forward-looking today but just in case we do just know that anything any features that we're talking about that we're working on or that are in beta or are coming in a new release there's no guarantee that those features will actually exist until you really for real see them in an actual supported release is basically what the first bullet is saying and don't make any purchasing decisions on anything that's forward-looking or or in beta or in development boring legal stuff we encourage you to ask questions we want to keep Ian busy in the background I'll also be helping out on general questions so please feel free don't hold back use your questions window unfortunately our audience is too big to open the phone lines and and have questions out loud but if Ian sees a theme developing or a particularly interesting or timely question during during buddy's presentation he'll go ahead and interrupt him and say hey we've got a good one out here can you can you talk about this and we'll also try to have some time at the end for a few questions but also ongoing throughout the presentation Ian and myself will be working in the background answering those questions so with that I'm going to turn over the floor to Buddy and Buddy you now have the stage and you can share your screen Thanks pleasure see if I can get this going here right now we're seeing your internet browser and now I'm seeing a PowerPoint slide all right so I'm going to skip through the first one here and I don't reckon everyone likes to watch title screens for too long thanks for joining everyone my name is buddy and I am a Autodesk SME in regards to the plant solution the recap laser scan products and a maybe a handful of other products related to the ArchiCAD platform and it is a pleasure to be here with you today a little bit of background on me I'm about a 25 year pipe designer I've been with Autodesk right at seven years and for the most part I'm located in the South Louisiana area working for major chemical companies like Huntsman and IC I BASF those are the types of places that I've worked during my career now that I'm on the software side with Autodesk it's it's really in a much better understanding of how all of our products work together to conform and produce an engineering data set that will get your projects done on time and under budget and that's always the goal I'll click through this a little bit just to kind of set the agenda we're going to look at the pn ids and we're going to look at the 3d models and how they work together in terms of cascading data from one end to the other after we do all of that I'll bring it into Navisworks and we'll look at the the the ability for Navisworks to pick up heavy models and effortlessly move through them mainly for visualization and as well as it could be also be used as checking as well so we'll also cut some orthographic drawings for fabrication and we'll do some annotations in those orthographic drawings and then we'll take your questions so any anything did I miss there Eric no that sounds great okay sounds good I'm going to change my spring in here and we'll go straight into PID let me know when you see there I'm seeing it now oh all right great thanks for keeping me up to date there okay what we will see here in in an AutoCAD P&ID is is we have one environment and that environment allows you to toggle back and forth between the P&ID environment and a 3d detailed design environment first what you'll see on the right is your tool palettes and as I click through them you'll see that there's different symbols that come out of the box and they're not necessarily guided toward one particular industry or another depending on what you're going to select as your standards out of the box you will get pips standards you will get ISO is a din JIS ISO and you can just go into regular drafting and design annotations and 3d basic modeling and and you can create your own so you're really not limited to any of these particular standards or workspaces I can simply and I'm just going to show you guys really quick how you can just create a circle on the screen and if I wanted that circle to be a particular block that I use regularly or just the block that I've already had enough magical EDD inserted it I can simply right click on this object and convert it to an intelligent P&ID object and from here I can define that classification so it may be a filter or furnace I'll pick a miscellaneous equipment for now and hit blade agitator why not and get ok it'll ask for an insertion point you'll notice that as soon as I gave it an insertion point it changed color it changed layer it is now an intelligent object I can right-click on it and I can assign a tag to it so it is intelligent by any methods of measurement but what I'll do here is I'll simply hit save I'll go to an equipment tab now we've got and I'll just drop and drag it into a coupe out so what this this demonstration really shows you is that any of the symbology that you use today for your PN Ivy's or process flow diagrams can be easily converted to intelligent you can define contact points on them to put nozzles if you needed to and you can populate your own tool palettes with them I'll go ahead and delete that just showing you some of the flexibility that you will get and you're not necessarily tethered to the symbols and the intelligent parts that are built into the program you can completely use the versions that you're used to to using today so in this particular case I'm going to pipe up from one of these holding tanks for clarification tanks into our vertical pumps and into our clarifiers so I'll simply select the lines tab and the two palettes and I'll select one of the types of lines that we have in this case we have primary and we have secondary we've got new and existing we've got even jacketed pipe but you can really customize this tool palette to look just the way you'd like so if you have particular types of piping you'd rather use by all means you could do it as well I'll select primary I'll come out of near the bottom of the tank and what we'll do is we'll come in here and we'll touch this node of this nozzle now you can see that if I'm really being critical of osnaps I'm going to miss it but when I select that node point you'll see that plant P&ID is going to fix that miss and it'll make the adjustment for me so if there's anyone on the call really loves to be a stickler about snaps this is going to be your friend it's a command that's called s-line ortho and it's default lis activated so you will always get that that snap conversion I'll grab another line pull it off of here and we'll do the same thing on this node there we go and then we'll run this line from the node here then we'll go to the to the inlet here which i think is right yeah there we go and we'll do the same thing with the discharge here and what I'm really trying to show you is is you're able to use this you see how it fixed it as well right there just now it's also routing the lines based on the direction in which I drew it so your flow errors are indicative of that if I did indeed draw a line the wrong direction I'm just gonna show you real quick it's easy for me to right-click on that line go to schematic line edit and of all the different options that I have including adding gaps and straightening segments and I also can reverse the flow so flow Direction is indeed important for plant DN ID and if I hold my mouse over any particular line you'll see that it's looking for direction there's a to and from and a tag information tag is something that we can very much customize based on how you want your information to be Canton ated so if you're looking for letters - are you looking for numbers underscore all of that can be customized the way you'd like but the out-of-the-box version here will be size spec service and so on I'll go ahead and pick sanitary sewer and we'll give it a line number and we'll place an annotation on it we'll get the assign button and now I can place an annotation anywhere around here and I'll move it a little bit make it look a little cleaner and so now when I open my mouse over this line it isn't just an annotation that we're reading we're also seeing that the tag number is indeed defined in the database so the tank doesn't have any information on it so we'll define the tank and we'll a tag and if I hold my mouse over the tank we should see the tech number now all of this can be back checked through the data manager which is our window inside the database and we can look at tanks and we can see that there's a 202 one and if I select this little search window here it'll zoom in on it for me and it'll highlight it as well and this happens for anything that is inside of our RP and IDs if we want to find them we can find them and this is a standard feature that we have for finding the different objects and highlighting them in our pn ids and 3d models now we've got a line drawn in here we can come over to our valve section and we can place the assortment of valves that come out of the box I'll just grab a basic gate valve here and you see the behavior is automated it'll give a numbering sequence to the valve we can change that number in sequence whether it's either action acquisition or selection or string you can define how you want to be numbered or named and if you didn't want that you can actually do it all manually yourself so it all depends on how much you want to customize it but it also inherited the line size of the pipeline that the valve was placed on so if I've changed this line to a different size and will change it to an 8 inch and we'll give it to number will place an annotation on it and then when I place a valve in this line you'll see that it'll inherit an 8 inch size and right here we can simply select and add a tag to it and give it a new number well messed that one up let's try that again there we go sorry about that so as you can see the line size is dictating your in line assets annotations and if I look at the data manager again and I go toward the in line assets you'll see that there's a 10-inch valve and an eight-inch valve and that's kind of how the P&ID system works obviously we've got additional things here we can go through where you can place reducers concentric and eccentric hose connections if I go back to the lines you'll see that there's a whole host of instrumentation so I could literally come in here and pick an instrumentation style which I'm by any means to measure I am NOT a really good instrument guy but that's okay I'll pick some type of switch here and give it a number and then I can come into the line section and grab a electric signal and from there we can place it on the motor and it's really that simple if I go back to Data Manager I can now find that instrumentation I can find that field instrument and I can zoom right to it and you'll see that every one of these categories that I've shown you in data manager has additional sub classification columns so there's area and types but there's also manufacturer and model number supplier general comments and I can add additional fields to these rows and columns of data or I can remove some oh it all depends on how much information you want to track and how much willing to fill out and report on if I change this view here from the current drawing data to project reports you'll see that there's an out-of-the-box group of reports so like control valve lists and document lists equipment lists we also have instrument line lists so you're building your line list as you build your your PA IDs a summary version of that line list nozzle lists and this entire list of reports here can be modified you can delete them you can create your own custom versions of them all of that's possible through our user interface in our project setup and then we can look at all of the P&ID information so if there's more than one PID we can look at all the different things that are existing inside of those as well all right let me zoom extents here a little bit and looking at the time check I think I'm gonna move to the 3d version side of this buddy can I ask you to do one thing before you go let's still go back into the P&ID one of our users asked about whether you can just simply change the line size and will the valves actually change as well I know that if you revert that line back to a 10-inch or whatever I think that'll answer the question beautifully yes sir I can do it I'll do a 10-inch right there and you'll see the annotation immediately updated and if I hold my mouse over it which is the tooltip which is being derived from the database it also shows to ten inches as well so the answer to that question is absolutely yes so you don't have to break or delete you can even grab a pump and loop it around a little bit and you'll see that the lines will adjust with it as well we'll bring it down a little bit but it's not me to do a whole lot of moving but it is allowing you to move and still maintain connection all right let me zoom in and save and then I'll go back to the model and while you're moving in there I'll just answer another question which was about reduce in the case of reduce once you insert the reducer you select which is the reducing size and everything downstream of that will be how the line size has changed that is correct if you place a reducer the P&ID 2 won't necessarily know which side is going to be larger or smaller so it puts it as a size on size reducer if you will it sounds a bit redundant but it's kind of how it works and then you can pick which side upstream or downstream of that fitting would be the size change and once you selected that size change it propagates it throughout ok I in my 3d model in here and you know I I will have to say that I am NOT an absolute expert in in how to turn sanitary sewer into drinking water and that's okay but this data set has been shared by some of those who do know how to do that I am an expert in how to pipe this stuff up and use this software so I just want you guys to understand it I am going to show you how this piping system works and there are three different ways to place equipment in plant 3 B and if I change my workspaces here to our 3d piping you'll see our ribbons change and our tool palettes will change and now what we have is the ability to change if you look up here at the top would change with respect we're working in so if we're working in a different weather is PVC or some type of stainless or ductile iron we can change those specs out really easy in this case I'm looking at a ductile flanged or a ductile mechanic joint which is what I'm using today you can change your line size based on what size availabilities or within that Specht and then of course you can change your line numbers so if you have a line number specifically you want to stick with or one that's changing you can hit route new line or you can begin to route some of the lines that already do exist also we can look at our pn ID list so i can hit this little button here give it a sec and you'll see here's our P&ID with our line numbers attached if there's any valves in here so I'll just going to use this one really really quick and show you how we can grab this line and hit place and I'll just place a line here and you'll notice that it's really just dragged manipulate the lines based on the direction you want to go you can change the plane so that you can go up or down and change that of elevation and now when I hold my mouse over this line you'll see that the data from P&ID transferred over into the 3d model so now I'm looking at line number 5000 that's 2 inches it's a carbon steel 150-pound line and I can also select this check valve and place it and so now if I look at this check route really close I can hold my mouse over and look at all the data that's been propagated from the P&ID into our 3d design model and if I didn't want this particular one I can simply hit the substitute button and change it to a different a different type of check valve so we'll pick a flanged one so you don't have to delete you don't have to erase and replace you can simply select the little substitute grip and you can change it to the different types that you are more familiar with or that you need for this particular project all right oh ok well I'll just leave that right there and I'll show you how I've got some pumps in here 3 ways to place equipment you can build your equipment through 3d modeling AutoCAD objects and then convert those objects you can create with our equipment creation module that allows you to pick different types of typical equipment and then manipulate that equipment based on shapes and trim whether it's a stiffening ring or an access ladder and platform or maybe a skirt around a particular vertical vessel and then you can select and define those properties behind each one of those parts before you place it so you get scription z' and material codes and design standards all the different things that come with those types of equipment and then you've got the third way which is building it in inventor and then taking that inventor model and bringing it into your plant 3d environment I think this is a ski it here I think we have a pump as well there we go so you have the ability to define objects that are not built inside a plant 3d and turn those into objects for use here inside of your plant 3d environment this was done in inventor so the workflows is it's still there not only is it AutoCAD to AutoCAD but it's invented on AutoCAD as well in this case we've got some some nozzles in here I got the wrong spec defined let me change that we can look at what this nozzle is by selecting a little pencil and we see that it's a 12 inch 150-pound flat face and from there we can look at our 12 inch mechanical joint will turn the pide list off for now and we'll select uh-oh that's because its own mechanical joint let's change that to flanged yeah when and that's a really great segue here I wanted to make sure you guys understood that you cannot model things that are out of spec so when you're selecting eye objects to design if they do not meet the specification that is currently selected you will not be able to model all the spec items I'll pick this out and then I'm just going to touch the node of this one here what that's going to do is that's going to give it an auto route feature if it can fit it if it can't fit it we can simply manipulate it by dragging it out a little bit more dragging the pipe back in a little bit more all of this allows us the flexibility to make modifications on why and it will tell you hey you can't do that because of these particular reasons in this case it's looking for that flange connection so it says this flange connection needs to be trimmed up a little bit because of the fitting makeup in here so you can always modify you can always delete and you can always reroute really quickly and you only get in here and grab this part there it is and you can extend your lines back and forth you'll see that you've got a dynamic input here so I can tab through these dynamic input parts and select how far I want this particular pipe to stretch back to I can select any one of these faces and connect to these parts and hit accept and once I've accepted this I can turn this ninety into a team by simply selecting one of the plus signs on the back side of it and the mathematics for that conversion is already done by the software I think this note this nozzle here wants to be a little different but that's okay we can get to it the other thing we can do as we can connect to other items like this line here that's all already built we simply select it and touch this node right here and you'll see that it's already done you'll see that the line is set up so that every 20 feet there is a connection and we can we can connect to that existing line and it'll put fittings in there for us just like that so routing pipe and connecting pipe is relatively easy and as we go through this you'll see that we can assign the behavior of this pipe to be every time it is I think this is an 8 inch line here no it's a 10 inch line so the 10 inch line looks like it is going to be but looks like it's a cyan color this is a 12 inch line it looks like it's going to be a magenta color and we can manipulate our pipe designs so that they land on the steel and support by the steel based on our input and I'll show you what that means I file looking do an ID on this this beam here see it's 20 feet in the air if I change to my pipe supports and I scroll down and I select a shoe there's a pipe shoe and I'll put that shoe right there if I look at this shoe really close to look like the shoe isn't sitting on the steel at all I simply select the shoe go to the properties scroll down and you'll see that there's a properties pop out for that particular shoe there's an SH dimension I look at that SH dimension and change it to I think it's 7.25 inches and there it is now it's sitting on that steel and it's just one of the really cool features of having aspect driven design here with your tool pallet and your ability to just place pipe supports and we've got some more stuff down here we can route and I'll show you how this works I'll grab this little pipe here and we don't have to get a dead Center we don't have to to challenge the the drafter to get everything just right because we can manipulate it just right on the fly so I'll select a spot and then I'll select the node and you'll see that the auto route has found three different routings and I can toggle through them and I think that's what I'm going to use and hit accept so since the nozzle is on the dead center of this clarifier you'll see that these routings look almost identical and I can still manipulate them based on how I would like to to proceed so if I want to add a branch or added at a high point Dre I bleed or drain all those are easy just simply select it and you can hit a plus sign and continue to route pipe from a particular connection based on the connection criteria or you get escape and cancel it out I can grab another line from this the sister pump and select that and which really cool is the ability to change those fittings from 90s to T's I'll simply select that T right there and then select here and it is accept and so now I've got a dual pump system come up to the the tool palette and grab a block valve and you know to summarize all of this I'm just trying to get our audience today to understand that routing pipe manipulating pipe all of these things are really easy to do inside the software and then from there we can create orthographic drawings once all of this has been piped up I'll go ahead and pipe up a little bit more and you guys will see what I'm doing here it makes a lot of sense as far as efficiency of your design and then I'll select the node of that line and you'll see that it routed it for me and we can come in here to your pipes ports and add more support so if we wanted to put some type of side clamp stanchion here just see get the stanchion adjusted for the size of the pipe or if we wanted to put an adjustable on here once I selected it I can simply select the little grit node at the bottom and I can tab to the elevation till the elevation is at 0 feet and you'll see it automatically adjust same thing with these angle irons 0 feet and you'll see it adjust automatically and if I look at this from a side view you'll see that it is indeed in line with the grade and it works just like AutoCAD objects typically do work if I look at my ex tres there is a steel section in here that has been ex roughed in and if I look at my project manager at the top I do have a steel drawing and here is where all my steel or is eyes so if I make any changes to the steel let's grab this and move it a little bit we'll move it one foot over and hit save we'll go back to the pipe model and I'll get a little pop-up window down here at the bottom that says hey your steel x-ray has been modified click here to reload it and now it's done and all I did was really move this little piece of steel over here a little bit but the same workflow that you're used to in an AutoCAD environment still applies xrefs still work you can access the project for many different people and have instant feedback whenever they hit that Save button so the collaboration side of this is still really autocad-based and it's still really reliable let's create a drawing so I'll hit zoom extents I'll hit save and I'll come up here to the top and hit create ortho view now a couple of things are going to happen once I select what to define this won't see give it a name and hit OK it prepares our title block in our borders area and then it goes this goes back to the 3d model and it puts a 3d environment around the model in this case we have paper check turned on cut pipe symbols I'm gonna move this down out of the way we can select what do we want to take overview of so in this case we'll pick a top view and you'll see that the top part of the key was now kind of highlighted red I'll change this to a front view and we'll make sure that the top and the bottom of the cube is encompassing all the areas that we needed to to encompass for the the Z elevation we can select additional models in this case I will pick the steel model to make sure it comes in on this image and then we'll go ahead and change this view to the top and we'll check the paper check paper check is how big will this viewport look on the size of the paper that we have selected in this case this viewport looks about the right size we can change this though if we didn't want everything in here we wanted to cut the pipe rack in half here and just get this area here we can do that and we can hit OK and what will happen here is that our our area that we selected now is a bit small but we place it on the sheet anyway and I'll show you how we can edit that we can simply select it and we can modify it or we can maximize it we can clip it or we can hit edit view here lots of different ways to accomplish the same tasks and we'll change the size to a little bit different we'll go to 1/8 well check the paper looks much better and hit OK and you'll see a change and the really cool part here is that once I've got one view selected I can double click inside of it right click and annotate so in this particular case and equipment annotation what do you know that tank has no tag number so we'll go back to the model I think you guys will get a deep sense of appreciation here and we'll simply assign a tag to this tank then we'll call it 5000 30 and we'll hit save we'll go back to our ortho and we will update this viewport and watch that annotation so it's intelligent from 3d all the way out to your 2d deliverables we can double click inside right click and even and even more so the line numbers the bill of materials the insulation call-outs if there's any typo information bottom of pipe center pipe top of pipe coordinate positions can all be placed right here so here's a center of pipe elevation so annotation even bill of materials is capable so if I look up here at the top we've got a bill of materials you can select I can select the viewport I can define where the bill materials will sit and then I can build material annotate by selecting the number one and defining all the number ones in the viewport and I can repeat that process as I go through into all the different parts then you go on so forth I'm going to delete this just for now and I will make you an adjacent view let's pick a front view of that same area so we can come in here really close and you can see that it's all the different objects based on the point of view have been hidden or process so that it's graphically correct and here's some of your your base plates and pads for your structural components your equipment your your ladders and platforms all of that's in here for you and we can do this over and over again until we get all the different views and annotations that we want we can even do an isometric point of view there you go and this is just a basic functionality obviously you can fine-tune it by going up here and setting up your tables and setting up your annotation preferences the different texts and leaders that you want to use all of your dimension tools are here as well so it's really built for you to come in here set up your viewports and really annotate and get your fabrication and erection drawings prepared in this environment now one of the last phases of this is our Navisworks and I will pull our Navisworks model up and I will append our structural model to it I know if anyone on the call is not familiar with Navisworks but Navisworks is our visualization tools where I can simply open DWG s I can output NW DS or NW C's even nwf switch our Navis file types for other users or stakeholders and your projects to review we do have free viewers for a lot of our Navis files and it allows us to not only look at these objects but actually see some of the properties of these objects so if I look over here in our properties tab you'll see that I know that this particular piece of steel that I selected is an 8 by 31 it's 240 inches long here's this x y&z coordinates so there's a lot of data that comes into and Navisworks environment just like I selected this bump here and you'll see that the pump has the classification of pump it has not been tagged it's got flat based facing flanges it is a new part it is a 12 inch intake in 10 inch outtake output pump nozzle structure that's based on 150 pound pressures so as far as using Navisworks checkers project administrators and as well as stakeholders get a lot of data out of a Navisworks model and then with Navisworks manage we also get clash detection so we can simply select the clash detective so we'll add a test will select the steel of the pipe and we'll clash it against the steel we can select different types of clearances or hard or our clashes things that are really impacting or things that are supposed to sit on top of each other and just barely touch you can kind of control all of that once you've selected the the settings in which you are most comfortable with you can run that test and what you'll see here is the results of that test in terms of okay it's finding a clash where this base is actually hitting some of the concrete on the floor once that's been determined on the clash report you can do a few things you can sit there and say okay that's being reviewed it's being approved it's being resolved and you can move on to the next one and you'll see that there's an animation that takes place for every one of them that's clashing so this deal is running into that steel it's being reviewed and so you can repeat this as you go through all of the different clashes that take place inside your structures and your models you can even assign those clashes to different persons in your project to take care of that for you alright I'm going to stop out of there for right now I've created an orthographic for you I've routed some pipe I've demonstrated some PID functionality do you have any other questions you want me to review yes I while you've been working away there there's been a lot of questions asked some of which I responded to in the chat or in their Q&A windows but let me first of all one of the questions asked was what about specs changes taking place if you want to change from one spec to another so I'm just going to answer that by saying we have an ability to change models through spec updates which will automatically update the components within within a model that are based on changes that have been made to a special type in spec since that model was actually modeled we we do timestamp we know that the spec has changed selecting the spec update command will actually update the line to the current spec settings which may mean that some of the components would change automatically and they may change into different types so as you see here on the screen the spec update will actually identify for you which parts have been changed you can decide manually whether you want to change them or not and you by just simply checking the box their question was asked as to whether or not I can change a line from one spec to another the answer is again yes because you would use properties and then do a spec update so so yes I think the answer is that I've covered pretty well most of the into the ability to work with specs and I think that's one of the primary difference somebody asked about the question is what do they think is the primary difference between P&ID I think they meant plant 3d and Revit MEP and I think the the big answer is really the fact that plan 3d is spec driven whereas Revit is more component driven and family driven so now by using specs you can ensure that you're using the right components there that match the properties of the the type of line that you're actually trying to model and sorry so that I think Cup is one set of questions when they hadn't changed one piece of a line here from carbon steels things still just by selecting the properties palette and changing that so yeah so changing a spec is absolutely easy even changing a size is easy so you see they're automatically put in the the reducers so I think you you know you can see how that's as being driven by by our specs and decisions being made by Piper's the the other question that I know in this industry piping ISO metrics are not not actually created a lot but question is can we can we create piping ISO metrics the answer is yes we have a capability of doing that see that you're going to do that while while I'm talking I think one of the things that's really interesting is that is that while we the question specifically asked about isagen and I just want to say that I'm currently working on a project where we are actually not interfacing to iSAGEN but we're actually interfacing directly with piping fabricators who are using small Jen so we're delivering the files that are being created automatically that create these Isis that you see on the screen in digital form to the piping fabricators who are reading it into into there there are a particular small Jen version and automatically creating the spools from the from a digital interface it's something that's extremely efficient very calm very very good at its working now the question was about creating content and in particularly to do with equipment and it's not just districted to to the content if you just go back into the model and just just pop open for me the create equipment window now just at the bottom there in the bottom right you see there's a little button there called templates so what you can actually do inside a plant 3d is you can create a whole set of using the screens here you can create a whole set of of various different types of equipment based on these you can add primitives you can take primitives away and then you can save it as a template and you can use it it appears you could click on the button and pull that type of template for use in further modeling so that that I think is that one question the other question that came up was as was working with Revit of course you know you can import Revit models and use them as extras just in the same way so you now have the ability to work in a full BIM environment with plant 3d and although this question wasn't wasn't suddenly actually here just ask the question are we using an OEM isagen or is it completely independent our ISO metrics are completely independent that delivered as part of the piece plant 3d project product were for an absolutely no extra charge the other question I've got here was about excuse me in interface to the hydraulic analysis the plant design the package does not include hydraulic analysis but we can interface using the PCF tool to into a number of different hydraulic analysis packages the geometry is automatically exported using the PCF format and there's a there's a variety of different price press analysis that also you is the PCF and we have won that round trips with us in out of Texas called piping solutions okay then one thing I thought we should add here by the way is that what you're seeing here is plant 3d being used and that those of you who who already have a see collections actually have the ability to use plant 3d at no extra cost so so you have the ability to do everything that that's been shown here and more with the software you already have alright well awesome work both of you I gotta say buddy I'm not very well versed on plant 3d myself but what I've seen is really impressive here so I definitely want to learn more and I'm sure the folks on the that are viewing that the presentation are feeling the same way Ian any more questions you want to air out before we before I wrap things up yeah I think there was one question I just just bear with me with it that just came in can slopes be added to pipe yes you have the ability to actually route with the slope you can set the slope settings and now your horizontal pipes will actually be sloped does it calculate the pipe run wait and center of gravity if you're piping specs or catalogs contain weight and central gravity information the answer is yes I think that's it we do calculate Gog and we can control your rise over run slope right here oh there was one other question to which we didn't show somebody asked if we can actually create drawing sections the answer is yes we can have zigzags in the sections so we didn't show it but yes you can do that I think I've called everything I have nothing else has come up so all right great job yeah awesome I'm gonna take back presenter status here and share my screen one more time because I want to just remind everyone of our next webcast so once again our next webcast is on Wednesday March 7th it's the infraworks design slam postgame show like I said so it was a really exciting event at ottoman artist university that if you weren't able to make it out to autodesk university this year and we're gonna kind of bring it to bring it to you so you know through the magic of the webcast interface you can log in and learn about how these these heavy hitters with infraworks prepared for this event and how they were able to pull off the amazing feat of designing a pretty major development in in 15 minutes so it's gonna be then these guys are all characters they're they're great guys they're funny I think it's going to be a lot of fun to to have that event so I hope you'll all show up for that once again I want to thank buddy for a great presentation Ian for doing such a great job of answering the questions not only in the background and the questions panel but also you know talking us through the answers and and Buddy did a great job of demonstrating what ian was talking about so just a top-notch presentation from both of you really appreciate it I want to thank all of you who attended today for giving us an hour of your busy schedules and I hope to see you at the next webcast and many more after that Thanks have a great rest of your week and we'll see you next time
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Keywords: Autodesk, Engineering, Building information modeling, BIM, Infrastructure, Department of Transportation, Civil engineers, Civil engineering, highway, highway engineering, land development, road design, site design, CAD, AutoCAD, Civil 3D, Autodesk Infrastructure Modeler, Infrastructure Design Suite, highway design, planning, 3d models, 3d modeling, software, technology, architecture, bridge, infraworks, AKN_include
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Length: 55min 50sec (3350 seconds)
Published: Wed Feb 21 2018
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