Fat Joe On Eminem/ Jay Z/ 50 Cent/ Tupac/ Biggie/ Diddy/ Shaq/ DMX/ Big Pun/ Suge Knight/ Mike Tyson

all right Fat Joe how's it going what's up my brother how you doing man I'm good man glad to be here Vegas that's right that's what it is man well I thought we would start off with kind of some of your hip-hop history and you know what it was like for you coming up you know I believe you're a part of a group digging in the crates that's right ditc you know um Showbiz AG Diamond D discovered me um Lord finesse then we bung our OC big out Buckwild you know at the time ditc was running the streets on the Underground Level Laura finesse was probably one of the not probably he was the nicest um young rapper in the game he discovered Big Al you know Diamond D put out a classic album but we all from the same Hood most of us so Diamond D told me yo man stop being in the streets talk me into going to the studio with him and I went up in there and he said yo just tell your life story on the music and so we immediately came up and like flojo you know second third time we went to the studio flow Joe uh went number one in the country rap singles so you know we came out the gate swinging you know my first album I had a lot of support I had uh Brent um grandpa was on there kuji rap was on there I mean these guys was the guards at the time Coogi rap grand pool bar was on there of course the whole ditc Apache rest in peace he was like he had that record out of gangster [ __ ] it was like the number one song it was like a lean back at the time and so everybody came and supported me on my first project and um it's an honor looking back to to see you know somebody like me a face first time artist getting embraced like that yeah what year was this nine three 93 okay and you mentioned Big L so he was part of your group too that's right man back then that's that's crazy because you know he turned into this you know Underground Legend and you guys were already you know Linked UP way back then yeah he's a member of the group he was the youngest member he was funny he was a knucklehead he's a little brother man he was just a beautiful God man and lyrically he was a he was a genius so you know he got stopped ahead of his time you know and then years later you see people appreciating him more than when he was even alive you know because people go back to the music you know that's what this is all about this is documenting time this is documenting the stories the real stories and time where people could come back in 20 30 years and look at these interviews and just be like oh [ __ ] that's how I went you know okay so you're in this group and you know I'm saying you're making moves and you're doing a lot of things at what point do you meet Big Pun well I was on my second album I was finishing my second album and uh in New York we go to these spots called the bodega and so it was right in my projects where I grew up um so I pull up you know I'm in the LS 400 I'm in the white Lexus the big body [ __ ] now go in the store go get me a Diet Pepsi when I come out there's a couple of Latino Brothers freestyling and then one of them happened to be this big guy he said let me go let me go and then he starts rapping and uh just blew my mind bro he just blew my mind I knew I've been so much of a hip-hop historian the fan of hip-hop that I knew he was the best in the game when I heard him I was like oh he's the greatest right he's the best Lyricist right now you know and uh it's all about uh lyrics alone don't make you a superstar so it's all about picking Beats picking the right producers making the right hooks the white looks the right features it's a lot of [ __ ] going on that ain't just you know because you you ever wondered when you loved the guy that was so lyrical that he was so great he was like why he ain't blow up like that because you ain't he ain't have that Irv Gotti behind him he didn't have that Diddy that Dr Dre be on them you know Dr dre'll take them all [ __ ] that probably Eminem probably would have came with us and been an i Dr Dre molded him into the biggest [ __ ] in the universe and so you know uh you know and that was that that was the uh dynamic between Fat Joe and Big Pun you know what I'm saying that was the the thing that made it so successful meeting Big Pun man you know you guys did a lot man how hard was that Journey from the point where you guys you know meet to start I don't think it was hard at all you know the day I met him I took him to my studio he jumped on two songs on my second album my second album was closing up and then as soon as I met him you know I was there with what puffy did with biggie so I was there for the whole thing like I watched biggie in the tank top like you they can't see you right now but then tank top like you and the next day he had a fur coat on with Gators and and uh Fedora like I mean next day like hanging out with him like this next day Gators for that you know I was like oh [ __ ] you could do that so I seen all that and so I knew when I met pun you know because if we would have let just pun go he'd have been like trigger happy just spitting crazy but he wouldn't have thought about the hits for the ladies and stuff like that so I was like no bro you're gonna be the Latino biggie you know what I'm saying we're gonna go that way and so you know we made sure he had all of the Versace [ __ ] on he had that look that aura that Persona um and so you know from the beginning from the beginning like you know yeah yeah and then at one point you guys had a club and you guys having trouble getting in and and Mike Tyson's there yo bro that's crazy um that's God for real um we was trying to go in the tunnel tunnel most dangerous Club in New York City history not even just the most danger in the history like the bouncers was like seven feet tall [ __ ] diesel six-pack that like they beat the [ __ ] out of you and they jump off the they you know it was like Ninja Turtles like you know and so only the tough guys went to the tunnel right you know like and then you usually go 100 deep 50 deep like it's not where you're going to jail right but they had fun flex it was the uh big cap the best DJs in New York was playing that in fact that was the last place I was there tonight EZE and Ice Cube talk for the first time in years just before Eazy-E died I happened to be in the tunnel and I happen to be right there when they was talking and all that see them in there and so we getting it we we had a show in Jersey that closes early we go to the tunnel um the tunnel you know Big Pun is double Platinum on fire uh the biggest thing on earth and we're hearing this song but they won't let us in because they want them to take off his Timberland boots because people used to put guns and knives inside the boots that's the reason why but uh pump was such a big guy was really hard for him to come take these boots off right there in that hallway so he start arguing with them you know and you know pun ain't scared as [ __ ] so he's always like eight of them so he's arguing with one and the Seven guys are calming down to one guy next thing you know is six guys calming down two guys then there's five guys coming down before you know it it's Five Guys saying Fat Joe a big pun and you know it's just like so I stop pun because I'm always been realistic so I'm like yo pun you do know we're gonna get [ __ ] up here he's like yo I got the straps in the car there's no way he was getting to the car this guy's a seven foot tall [ __ ] diesel I'm like yo bro we going down and then but one kept going and you know that's my brother so we kept cursing them out they keep going back and out of no way we hear this little voice say yo pun yo [ __ ] these [ __ ] and we turn around as I am Mike Tyson 2 30 in the morning fresh out of jail he had to Goofy on this so he has some Gucci loafers he started taking them off to fight so he ready to [ __ ] them up at that time Mike Tyson is probably the most feared man uh without a weapon in the world and so he wound up chasing the first security guard who stopped started everything around the car and the guy looks at me he's like yo joe yo Punk tell him to stop tell them to stop you know because Iron Mike was gonna come up but that was God's doing man that was a blessing right classic stories man uh it's classic you mentioned Easy E did you know easy no I didn't know him like that I seen him a couple of times but I didn't no easy like that what happened that night in the in the tunnel when you see him no I was just ill because you know the whole world knew they they they don't talk to each other and then you couldn't tell Easy he had he was sick because he was always little but he had these baggy you know how he wear them black like windbreaker Raider jackets with the hoodie he looked healthy you know and the cube was talking you know maybe Cube ain't know what was going on but he knew maybe that was his last way of you know wow I bumped in the cube in New York so they was just talking I was an innocent bystand to standing you know by the ball watching like oh [ __ ] wow it's easy that's Ice Cube were you surprised to see him talking yes legendary moment yeah for sure for sure how'd you meet biggie I met biggie around the time out I put out flow Joe biggie was in this place called uh The Lyricist Lounge where people used to go in rap battle so one day I'm up in there giving the DJs my vinyl to flojo she kids don't know back in the days if you was an artist you had to go in the clubs and give the DJ your vinyl so they could play it so I was up in there giving the DJ the vinyl and I look on stage in this skinny guy and the fat guy it's Puff Daddy biggie Puffy's doing like a Dawn King yeah yeah nobody oh my man this I seem busy biggie um battle and beat like 10 guys white guys black guys Spanish like he was destroying everybody up there he had a backpack on and so I walked up to him I met him I gave him my flow Joe he was like yeah I know you know this thing about we became tight from there I actually gave him his first show because what I used to do is I always been an entrepreneur Hustler so even though I was rapping I was promoting shows in the Bronson in New York so I gave him his first show ever in New York City y'all Biggie Smalls damn that's crazy yeah it was really crazy did you see the greatness in him back then nothing like it not even to this day because he went from being first of all let's go back into the molding right biggie was an army fatigue hockey jersey you know puffed through the suits on them the Gators The Furs that whole Teflon Don uh image and so one minute I'm cool with Biggie and we just in Brooklyn in his house and we dress regularly the next day he got Furs and everything same thing with um the way he exploded you know when he came out he went number one two and three in billboard I had never seen nothing like that so biggie was a first for everything and even the sound of New York rap was like more like gang star underground Jayru the damager digging in the crates and he was the first to not the first but he's really really uh known for taking the r b beats flipping them Hip Hop and then making huge crossover hits and so we we wasn't really doing that prior to that you know so he was the first of everything and you guys were gonna make an album together yeah that's crazy and we worked we made a bunch of songs you know what I'm saying but there was like really disrespectful and hateful and and so he died and and Tupac died and it was like yo bro you know what I mean they might have burnt them shits to be honest with you because you know it was distasteful you know what I'm saying after the fact and how many songs did you guys do I remember but a couple not not maybe eight songs ten songs you know like that man I'm just going who produced it all the Hitman like uh D dot uh Stevie J you know mean [ __ ] like you know this is bad boy at his prime and were you working with puff were you ever gonna sign with bad boy or anything yeah I was gonna sign with puff um so biggie wanted me to be well what I was you know what I mean he was like yo you the Spanish Dawn I'm the black Dawn we gonna kill a game and uh puff was gonna sign me but then Atlantic Records heard that puff was gonna sign Fat Joe and they gave me an offer I couldn't refuse out of this world still came to puffy at a loyalty and said yo look they gave me this deal it's for millions and millions of dollars I didn't even deserve it yet like I didn't earn it yet all I had was like flojos just like they was probably off the hype that I was doing the album with with Biggie and was like yo that we need this guy Fat Joe so then Paul said damn Playboy I ain't gonna give you that you better go take that so I went over there in Atlanta to sign multi-million dollar deal do you regret it yeah hell no made me a boss you know what I'm saying I came into this game you know since I was 14 I've been the boss so I came in into this games to have my own [ __ ] anyway so you know we formed Terror Squad and that's how we put out seven Squad compilations and signed artists and sign Big Pawn and and so forth and so forth you know that you know I'm a boss man so they give you your own [ __ ] my own [ __ ] do you have a favorite memory with biggie man you don't I gotta I got a story I probably told before but I'll tell you you know he exploded and he became number one two and three and I remember I hadn't talked to him for like a month or two he was just a phenomenon I remember I was going to Vibe magazine party and it was a truck and it was just like 500 kids around the truck and I was out I was walking close I seen biggie standing like on the truck on the thing and I was like oh [ __ ] big right and then my first reaction was to go say congratulations and what's up but me myself I said yo he he probably changed you know what I'm saying this guy probably he ain't the same he probably front on me so right when I made that decision I was about to turn off biggie calls me from Over the crowd Yo Joe Yo Joe yo yo so come here so I go over there he's with season Little Kim and he tells little kid what album we've been playing what album we've been playing all day she was like yeah album joke my second album Jealous Ones every had just came out so he was like we've been listening to your [ __ ] all day you stepped the game up it's fine I was like Wow and and That's a classic case of how people judge people and say they changed when the truth is your perception of somebody might have changed or your insecurities you know uh and I learned a real big lesson like that a lot of times I it takes me one time to learn the lesson you know like I learned from other people's mistakes I learned from you know my mistakes but it take me one time to be like oh no we ain't doing that no more that's a wrap yeah yeah man that's dope uh you know biggie he was wild you know what I'm saying like we you know I'm from the west coast and you know he was just he loved the West Coast yeah yeah for sure man I'm going going back back to Cali he loved the West Coast man and then we used to talk a lot about everything he didn't want problems bro like that that the truth is he didn't want problems he was a cool dude he didn't want problems with with death row he didn't want problems with Tupac you know I was more of a troublemaker at that time I was more like yo we could whatever this he didn't really want that type of problems you know what I mean he had big Visions he had his own record label um where on he had a clothing line Brooklyn meant coming out like he was like he was like a Jay-Z that we know now at that time like he had a big vision like a big Vision like me at the time I was cool with just being the number one rapper being hot couple chains couple cars he had he had the whole ship mapped out meaning entrepreneurship you know meaning Equity meaning next level you know he had that [ __ ] all figured out real early ahead of the game too ahead of the game yeah definitely man you know one of the beefs that you're most popular known for is the 50 Cent stuff man uh you know you do you do this New York New York record with Ja Rule and Jada you know did you ever think like you know it would turn into anything no like Joe was my man you know what I'm saying this was an Anthem for New York and uh you know but 50 I understood you know I grew up in the streets and it's either predator of prey so I understood his reasoning for going that Fat Joe because you know he was trying to finish Ja Rule and Fat Joe says man Fat Joe got a bunch of street credibility a bunch of this you know and he just felt like I was giving him that strength and so he was like yo let's just you know that's like it's like a Putin situation like he's just like yo we gotta we got to get Putin and his man this man who wants to be on the front line pagoni we got to get him too and so I understood what his thing was that I think he would come at me no and it was pretty much it was really it was so brilliant because it was the shock and awe effect because Fat Joe although I worked for everything I got or do I never extorted nobody although I didn't bully nobody I had the Persona of New York Suge Knight like you know people feared Fat Joe in The Terror Squad in that way you know so for him talking about Fat Joe in the same city it was like you know like the funeral homes just like you know anticipating you know they they they they was like oh no they coming through like you know the funeral homes just taking making beds like oh it's coming through your normal person is like oh no this is like just think of wherever you from like two of the most dangerous Crews oh going crazy and then he has such a reputation I got such a reputation that it was not going nowhere but violence and we were almost forced to like go crazy if we ever bumped as it was it was it was forced like it was like they got to go you know what I'm saying so thank God that uh because Chris lady died you know we squashed the beef and now we the best of friends now we could tell jokes about [ __ ] and you know it's crazy but uh you know yeah yeah it was it was just it was a very tense moment were you surprised when he dissed you on piggy bank yeah I was surprised anybody would diss me like I tell you my my reputation was pretty uh impeccable with this game you know anybody who ever fronted on us we gave it to him so it's just these are all facts like you know what I mean so like it was like almost like a suicide mission like oh no word you're gonna go ahead like I was surprised I was like oh I wasn't used to that I had to learn 50 Cent taught me a lot of patience he taught me a lot of I had to learn I had to adapt you know was he the first person to actually go at you yes and um I had to learn I had to learn how to not be impulsive I had to adapt to social media you know I come from an era no social media so right now if you look at Fat Joe on Instagram I got 5.4 million if I was 19 years old right now I have 200 million fans this is their time right and I'm still I still know how to tap in and be relevant on everything you know what I'm saying so at that time you know he he was young he knew what the social media was I had to learn you know I had to learn and so it was growing pains with 50 Cent because you know he would say something and I would answer back you know we just didn't understand you know like you know uh social media it ain't for real real Street guys because they we just don't know how to react on there you know on the streets somebody says something about you you just pull up yeah what we doing and social media in Albuquerque New Mexico talking like he down the block big time yeah that's real no no it's too real they talking to you like they're getting spicy but they moonlights away you know it ain't pull up over here man what's up exactly pull up where like how many times did you guys run into each other was it just the ones at the award show it's six seven years it was one time we ran into each other and that was like recipe for disaster we was there for the tribute for Chris Lighty but it was almost like a setup his trailer was in front of ours you know I said 50 Cent Fat Joe like come on what you think is gonna happen these guys are both terrible guys man he's about to go there like but I think they set it up like they was like all right let's see and that day the whole industry was out there looking like okay these guys been talking a lot of [ __ ] about each other like it's about to go down I believe I've interviewed somebody else and they said the same thing that they felt like they set somebody up but you lost out on a deal Michael Jordan yeah you know I was going to be the first artist rapper to ever have a sneaker a Jordan collab and I was meeting with actual Michael Jordan not even with like designers and you know Michael Jordan was picking that yo I wanted to be Latino I wanted to like we was like really meeting with Jordan here in Vegas too a couple of times it was like and then when we got into that 50 Cent beef you know everybody else was so nervous and then we we had that [ __ ] on MTV where I had this Tim live on TV and they dissed me and it just seemed like like I said the funeral homes was like they was waiting you know so Michael Jordan who's my friend mentor uh somebody who I look up to he had to call and be like yo you know I ain't into that type of stuff maybe in the future or something how much do you think you lost out on beefing with 50. I don't know man I know if it wasn't for anything else it would have been a great uh thing to say you know I got the first Jordan collab you know to show would have been a great part of History for sure for sure well Chris Lighty you know uh he passes away and you guys end everything you know how hard or was that easy to end it you know like what was the process um man man you know it was so much bad blood you know what I'm saying between us that you know uh I really really thought it would be violence you know what I'm saying and Chris Lighty you know throughout the whole thing he discovered me he wanted me and 50 to squash the beef and not beef through the whole time he kept telling 50 that kept telling me that so when he died I went to the funeral I purposely went alone um I didn't want these these Maniacs with me you know so that one of them would start some [ __ ] you know so I made sure I went alone and uh 50 of them was in there they ain't look at me but not like that but the whole funeral was scared like you could just see everybody yeah paying respective because sliding with Joe's back there 50s up here it was like tense you know but we didn't say nothing to nobody and uh to each other I left no problem um and then I got the call from BET saying yo we want to do a tribute for Chris Lighty I said yeah they told me 50 Cent doing it too I said all right let's go and that's what happened we went in the rehearsal and we ended up by each other and you know the story you know we made peace and how did you guys relationship kind of continue on from there after that we became really really cool and you know he would come to Miami just to visit me and you know one year we did a bird I did well I did a birthday party for him on a yacht big big yacht you know like a 200 foot or some [ __ ] you know and uh and you know we cool ever since man he's been the man of his word I've been the man of my world man that's what's up that's what's up man I seen that you had you know uh creative input on like the the candy shop be and the lean back Beats can you kind of can you talk about that a little bit well anytime I worked with Scott Storch um you know I give my input you know Scott is the type of guy that you could tell them you can hear something if you go whatever he could play it so you know whenever I collaborate with admit whether it's get it popped and lean back or make it rain and Candy Shop we made it for me and then when I left the studio 50 Cent just so happened to go in there he said Scott couldn't be like 20 30 times it was like yo you sure you don't want this beat you sure I was like nah he can have it he can have it we didn't have beef at the time so I was like nah he could have it no problem this is that you know he could run with it at the time I was in such you know in so much of a run like I would like every record I was throwing out was going number one and so you get uh confidence is almost uh could backfire on you too so you know at that time everything I dropped was going number one so I thought like yo so what if that's a hit I make another hit you know and then until one day you you can't come up with them hits like you come up with them hits happens to the great this is why Drake is so phenomenal he's had so much of a run and would hit hit different styles like this it's never been heard of you know you could be on a run and then calm down and then the hardest thing to do with hip-hop is to gain that same momentum you know to come back from being cold and getting on fire it's almost impossible you know um you know I've been able to do that you know thank God yeah Drake's that's crazy you know not too many people get a second run he's on his first run still right he never dropped the he's never had a [ __ ] uh regular moment he's been winning since he was out since his birth he you know it's unheard of yeah yeah for sure I seen that Eminem had tried to give you his demo quite a few times yeah you know Emma's a good brother you know I love Eminem and uh you know one night I was having dinner with him and uh and he was just like yo you know I Gave You My Demo six times and you you must have been frisbee in my [ __ ] you ain't listening this time I was like you gave me your why he was like yo I Gave You My Demo how can I be down over here like he knew the places he was like yo I felt real dumb when he told me that because you know Eminem one of the greatest you know he's one of the goats of all goats and uh and and that you know it's one of my most proudest because you know Eminem don't bother nobody you know he stay in Detroit you don't get in your business you don't see him and nothing and the fact that you know I'm I'm really really family with the man and the man always comes through for me you know is is Major is is really really a blessing how'd you meet him I met Eminem once again at The Lyricist Lounge where I met biggie uh he was performing with these dudes from uh from Jersey they was called The Outsiders and here's the skinny little white boy and he with like five black dudes with dreadlocks and all that and he's wrapping his ass off and he's going so crazy that you know they hold it he's so skinny and small that he would just fall off the stage but they're holding him by the back of his shirt like so he don't fall off and he's going he's same Eminem he's going crazy and so you knew he was a star from the minute you saw him he was like oh this kid dead nice how did it affect you guys relationship I also I'll get back to that I also have pictures of when I went to promo tour to Detroit to the record shops where Eminem in the background before he was Eminem and we look back at the pitches with Steve Lobel and he's in the back like Eminem was there well [ __ ] yeah it's crazy like a kid you know he's probably rapping by then but he wasn't famous or he had no deal or nothing he was in the building man crazy it didn't really affect you know we never dissed each other we never disliked each other you know uh I just knew that was his man that was his artist so he did the best thing he could do just stay on the side be Switzerland you know what I'm saying he just said he was Switzerland he's out the way you know what I'm saying but uh always mutual respect always number love I see this manager Paul last night at the Jay-Z tribute in uh Brooklyn they did this big uh you know you come up to the Brooklyn Museum and it's Jay-Z lyrics like it's a book called and then just showing different accomplishments business and music and everything Jay-Z ever did so I seen Paul there last night and I said what's up I asked him I was my guy you know and you know so is love how has that been for you ever since you and Jay-Z ended your guys's issues beautiful and uh he's someone I really call family I really call my brother and you know when you helped me feed my kids I'm loyal for life on another level and so uh the fact that I've been able to be business partners with Jay-Z and get money in uh you know it's been the biggest blessing in the world and uh you know I'm most proud of them for just coming from where I come from the same projects he's from Brooklyn not from the Bronx we have [ __ ] to see the man come from the mud and become a billionaire and a businessman and provider he does so much philanthropy that he doesn't take credit for he don't want nobody to know he does um he's an amazing person and just to see us grow up under these conditions and really transform my lives into trying to be you know real businessman and entrepreneurs and just generational changes I wouldn't even say generational I say civilization you know what I mean because every 100 years is a new like Civilization it's a new empires and do this so for this time there was a guy who was born dirt poor who grew up in the projects who had to sell drugs single parent house who somehow became a multiple billionaire that's incredible it's crazy absolutely in this civilization that means that 100 years from now they'll be talking about that man that's crazy yeah it seems like some of your best relationships are with guys you've had issues with what happens is you know you learn to respect people to war you learn to respect they know one thing those two guys know is I don't back down like they know 100 he's all systems go you know he tried me you know what I'm saying you know and that so they respect me because they did it to other guys and other guys folded other guys ain't wanted other guys didn't go other guys wasn't who they say they was other guys did so when they do it to me they're like oh no he's the real deal he's all systems go and so once we were able to Overlook nonsense because at the end of the day you know both my problems with numbers wasn't about [ __ ] you understand and so when we overlooked that you know respect each other because you respect you know somebody you went to war with that you know held their ground yeah for sure for sure well one guy I've seen you talk about a couple times man and you know he had a he had a wild reputation himself man and that was Suge Knight you know I think you got you first met him at an award show yeah but at the end of the day you know the man did great in hip-hop the man-made 300 million dollars legitly and got it taken away from him lost his eyesight eventually went to jail you know Suge Knight was no different than O.J Simpson O.J Simpson might have got away with some [ __ ] and he went back and got his own [ __ ] and got 20 years in jail some of us know you walk in the earth that if you slip on the wrong banana pill they're gonna give you ten thousand years so you know it's a bed waiting for you it's just a matter of what mistake you're gonna make to get in that bed you know uh but he did great things um in hip-hop that think of the whole death row who would have took a chance and get Tupac out of jail his own record label wouldn't take him out of jail crazy Drake he went and got him out of jail team Double J California Love in two days you know you think about uh Snoop you think about Dre you think about dads you think about corrupt Lady of raised like they did some [ __ ] you know so you got to salute them do you remember what it would happen the night you guys met well I met Suge Knight a bunch of times Suge Knights Suge Knight's a problem you know he was just a problem you know he would walk up to me be like yo crack what's up big homie I'm like yeah he's like uh did you see such and such asking about a rapper I just seen my [ __ ] hallway I'm not going to tell him next thing you know 20 minutes later I'm at a party in L.A and they're like yo you heard about rappers such and such yeah he got stuck up for all his jury I'm like Jesus Christ so the man you know I'll tell you quick story is cool and Dre who I discovered super producers they went to the BMI Awards here in LA and uh they were going in the entrance and and it looked like it was the way to get in and so all the other producers writers everybody was online you know famous famous people right it was all there so then cool and Jay noticed as they were getting closer to the line that every artist was taken off their earrings their watches their chains and it was Suge Knight sitting in a chair collecting everybody's jury and they were like giving it up professionally yeah yeah earrings too guys take them off take off your Eddie this really happened there's no cap this really happened and then when cool and Dre walked up they thought they were going to be robbed too everybody else they ever looked up to that was cool with them was getting robbed and then shook seeing them and say yo y'all them producers you're down with Joe he was like cool and Dre right and it was like yeah he was like yeah yeah I could go inside okay keep your jury they almost felt guilty that they got to keep their jury they almost felt like the other producers would think they set them up or something because you know you know people were volunteering you know it's a very dangerous guy there's no way to sugarcoat oh Suge Knight was a very dangerous guy was it crazy to see you know all that going on with rappers that you you probably had relationships with and well I don't follow pressure for nobody like I've been a war with guys who who killed babies and rape girls and and you know monsters guys with eight heads you know and and I'll tell them suck my like you know I don't no pressure from nobody on Earth and so it's like you know you know I didn't understand how people were letting themselves get robbed and and at least fight back something don't orange you had to do then run I don't what do you want me to tell you like I don't understand that you know personally you know I don't it's not in my DNA for sure for sure DMX you know rest in peace DMX man you know I think I see somewhere you know you guys kind of knew each other or love DMX DMX living legend well not a living legend no more but um powerful dude being from the streets people love DMX like on another level like a core like a coal you know DMX meant so much to the hood because even though he was successful really successful DMX got more successful than Fat Joe ever been you know and he dropped two albums the same year with selling millions of rap like this guy was phenomenal doing movies he had movie deals like movie deals they was giving them money for like five movies you know Charlton Heston and you know DMX super duper Star you know he was like where Tupac was going DMX was there and um but still we all knew he had his demons we knew he had his problems and sort of the people who have family members you know going through the similar problems and all that and love hip-hop they felt a connection to DMX that was much different than any other artists do you have a favorite story or anything you could share well I tell the story man uh it's probably not good because he's dead but I remember one time we had a show me him a big pun in Brooklyn and uh after the show we stopped at the gas station and he saw a dude with a chain and he stuck them up in the gas station meanwhile the whole crowd was just going stop shut them down open up chop oh like DMX was crazy you know yeah I mean you know this is a dysfunctional uh industry bro this ain't the this ain't the SPs bro this ain't the you know you'd be lucky to get away alive going to the source Awards this ain't the SPs the same you got a masters in PhD in it like this is like the worst you are the the better you are in the game at least it was yeah for sure for sure man man I I've seen you talk about Shaq before man you know how did you how did you link up with Shaq and man we looked up with Shaq day one when Shaq first started rapping he made this album he had knives on it biggie like nobody fronted on him and uh me and big pump went down to Orlando he's the first probably the first big mansion I ever went into like he like he shot at the dumb mansion in Orlando and he had a studio in there so he played the songs he did with Big E with nas with Jay-Z and so we did a song with him but I the funniest [ __ ] is he he put us in a hotel in Orlando fly Hotel like this and they left the room service on and this is one big pawn and Fat Joe you know when you see them pictures of us looking like the Kingpin man we might have ordered No Lie maybe 100 200 orders of shrimp cocktails 50 turkey sandwiches like we was disri we was violating the room bill violating like you know it was a crime more chicken wings more like we was just disgusting with it and um and I never thought Shaq noticed because you know everybody he's so rich but he told me maybe like five years ago at an All-Star weekend he said don't think I don't remember all of them shrimp cocktail you a big pun ate all that [ __ ] on my name and all that but you know uh Shaq is a genius Shaq is uh real smart businessman and he he plays dumb you know when you see him on TV and all that but beyond the scenes he's genius he's a genius he has a lot of businesses a lot of businesses you don't just have that you know some people you could you could offer to buy people's businesses and they don't want it they don't want the responsibility they don't want to be a boss you know some people rather just work a nine to five and live a mediocre life than to even be handed a boss like yo we want you to be the boss want to be the boss the Shaq owns everything a lot of responsibility for sure he's in Miami and I guess you were the first person that he told bro I'm in the studio all the time shout out to my brother drop drop dead Beats so drop was my engineer for many many years and he had a studio in Miami I walk in the studio it's Pitch Black now all I see is the shadow of the biggest guy in the world sitting down now for sure I'm gonna get killed for sure I'm dead like I'm walking in there I'm like oh this is it this is how they kill you like yeah no no no for sure I'm dead right so then I turn on the light should kill O'Neal thank God and he's like hey big dog they just traded me to Phoenix I wanted you to be the first to know I'm like so Shaq I thought you was some ultimate killer some Saudi Arabian killer with a sword or something like yo bro what the but uh yeah Shaq can be I would like to say we grew up together you know our careers and a mutual respect yeah man that's a that's a wild story man I think you kind of touched on this a little bit before man but uh you know I think it's from your book you know growing up in the Bronx man can you you know what was it like for you growing up man it was it was it was beautiful right it was it was bittersweet it was beautiful but it was hard you know so many layers to growing up in the Bronx growing up in the Bronx I didn't know just being a fan break dancing writing graffiti electric boogie in I didn't know I was a part of hip-hop history you know just being a fan attending these block parties these jams and so you got where you from L.A I'm at an hour east of LA Rialto all right so you Rialto you got East L.A you got [ __ ] Compton you got Riverside you got uh the valley you got this no I'm born there like I'm born in the soil you know every now and then I look on Twitter you know the house of hate and they'd be like oh you know you're an appropriator you I'm like they must not know where I'm from you know I'm from the soil like you know one day I'm watching Melly Mel play basketball and the next day he's at the Grammys with Chaka Khan talking about Chaka Khan Chaka Khan Chaka Khan let me tell you you know the first Latino MC Ruby D that you see on wild style he's from my block I watched him as a little kid playing softball his whole he had like nine brothers they were the best softball point is all that [ __ ] was my block the movie Beat Street was two blocks away from my projects all this [ __ ] was my block as a kid five six seven eight nine ten years old so the beauty of something coming from nothing I call it the natural resource you know it's it's uh Poor People's music and so somebody has something to say and so even when you go back to slavery you know 117 Degree Days picking cotton they had to sing through the pain hip-hop was not no none short of that you know the buildings look like Iraq like it was blown up you know people lived in a band you know what an abandoned building is yeah a building that doesn't have an owner right abandoned there's no light there's no gas there's no this that people lived in there and would plug that extension cord you got right there into the power of the City Light to live in there that's what the Bronx was like no playgrounds [ __ ] was we was playing on pissing matches on rocks you know the ship was desolute you know what I'm saying and they made something out of nothing but the thing is we suffered a little less than this generation because we didn't have social media so we didn't know what we was missing we didn't know what we was missing we didn't know that people were living better we didn't know that people had nice cars we didn't know that people had good restaurants that we thought this is what it everybody got to be living [ __ ] up in the world at what point did you know that rap was what you wanted to do oh I loved hip-hop since the beginning since day one of hip-hop now but I always wrapped eight years old nine ten years old I always been battling in schools but I took the the streets in the drug game more serious than rap and so unfortunately I can't make no excuses but I want to get rich or die trying you know I you know I never liked being poor and so I knew that I was willing to take whatever risks I had to take to become successful and so we we targeted that game and became really really good at that and and really successful and so a bunch of my friends started going to jail for the Rico you know that's when the RICO was invented and so they took down John Gotti with the Rico so they took down the Italian mafia who was the smartest gangsters ever lived you know the Italian mafia they have a son that's a lawyer they have a Sundance accountant then the other three are gangsters and the father is the dawn like the whole the whole hierarchy is created on how we're going to get away with crimes right and not stereotyping this very hard-working Italians I love you all I'm not trying to I'm just trying to tell you of a life of crime and they was taking them down so imagine Puerto Ricans and black guys that you know you go you know you go walk in the store you see a black Horseman this dude that's in the streets there on the phone going yo I need 10 of them things trying to impress the whole store not knowing they're going to jail for 80 years for talking that [ __ ] on the phone and so all my friends were going to jail so uh Diamond D talk me into making music I went to the Apollo Theater amateur night of the power so you're talking about somebody that you used to look at I don't know where you from but you know on the streets I was a dawn you know to going into the mercy of the people where they could boo you and throw apples at you and throw you off the stage talking about I want to rap I'm trying to convince Kingpin guys y'all I'm gonna rap they like you out of your mind are you kidding me you're like you got spots you got everything you want I'm like nah I'm trying to change my life and so thank God I changed my life and when I did that a bunch of my friends they still in jail from that time they're still in jail from the 80s how old were you when you jumped off the porch I was 14. so I couldn't get along with my father I loved my father dearly but he was like really really strict um and we bumped heads a lot you know he was like he was damn near a dictator or a tyrant in my house and you know I and then and I can't blame them I had a great mother a great father they're hard workers my father never used drugs my mother never used drugs I just I was the black sheep I was the one who came out wanting to get the money I was very aggressive it's very equivalent equivalent to this movie called extraction you've seen extraction you ever seen the first one you saw the first one the little Indian kid that was willing to cut his finger off that was chasing the like I was like him like I was determined to get the attention you know I was 14 hanging out with the biggest living legends in the in the Bronx and Harlem like I was 14 little kid you know the toughest in that age but really going to dinner with the kingpins of all kingpins sitting there watching them they all love fat Joey and I was just learning like I was like yo I want to be like them I want it when I had the money I want to have the girls I want to have a jury I want to have the cause I want to add to this you know and so you know thank God I changed my my life towards music yeah for sure for sure man what were you like in high school terrible the biggest bully I once robbed my whole gym the whole gym like 70 kids without a gun like yo everybody give me your coats give me your walkmans give me your some of the kids I was actually cool with and I was like yo run it everybody run it I couldn't even carry it some of the guys I robbed had to help me carry this stuff with them terrible you know and then uh they threw me out of that school Morris High School and um I made a deal with my mother that I was going to be a good guy and I honored that you know when I went to South Bronx High School I got into a problem the first day with some big dudes and they was talking [ __ ] I was talking [ __ ] you know because I always been Fat Joe you know I could go to a new neighborhood and it's he's I'm me you know I had a lot of problems being B because I've always been like Fat Joe you know you know Fat Joe now so it's like yo we know Fat Joe but think of a 14 year old Spanish kid with blonde hair and green eyes going to a 95 black neighborhood with a V leather bomber going yo what's up Nick what's good y'all yo what we doing here what what where's this alien from is she crazy what is he we've never seen one of these you know but I always been me and so I go to South Bronx High School after they throw me out of [ __ ] being Saddam Hussein in my other high school I promised my Mom they're going to be a nice guy first day [ __ ] shop with me so I make a phone call I call Morris High School I call the uh lunchroom a little girl picked up none of my guys was there was like please because these guys was big it was big it was gonna [ __ ] me up and so I was like uh I was like yo tell the guys I got problems coming to South Bronx High School so when I go outside so we had a girl from my block her name was Yogi Yolanda went to South Bronx so she was telling the kids like yo I don't think y'all know who y'all with like you know like I said it wasn't social media there was another side of the Bronx another side of town she was telling them don't put them I'm telling you they're gonna come like you you bugging out and they they were like I guess the tough guys in the neighborhood so three o'clock they waiting for me outside like here we go again I got bullied my whole junior high school then I'll become the bully now I'm getting bullied again right so I walk outside and when I walk outside they ready to [ __ ] me up and we ready to fight I'm gonna fight him and I look across the street the whole crew runs across the street 100 Terror Squad guys bottles all type of [ __ ] they in now stop and I tell the guys y'all try to tell y'all I'm not the one so now my guys from Morris who just seen me get kicked out of robbing 70 guys by myself are like and I was like no I told my moms I'm Gonna Change I'm gonna give you all pass because I told my moms are going to be a nice guy but now y'all know you don't ever try to disrespect me sit in South Bronx High School was sweet for me you know nobody ever [ __ ] with me I didn't have to do much they have more girls in that school you know it was a good place did you graduate no but shout out to Luis Torres he was my teacher he was a great guy he rest in peace been a real great guy who always told me to follow my dreams and my goals did you ever try to have a real job I had a real job I worked at my uncle's Deli in Harlem cutting sandwiches nobody wanted a sandwich from nobody else but fat Joey because I make like it's for me meat was this big the cheese though [ __ ] was like a the best sandwich it was Jersey Mike's before Jersey Mike's they would be there they'd be like no we want fat Joey to do it we want Fat Joe we to do it because I baked the sandwich like this for me um yeah I worked there um a couple of jobs you know what I'm saying but uh no I'm into being a boss man how did you uh leave the jobs did that you just quit you know it was always about selling drugs so it was always about uh another opportunity you know the most unstable business in the world is the drug business especially when you just a regular kid trying to come up so you know one day you got work one day you don't got work one day is good one day it's not the guy you thought was you know it's an unstable [ __ ] trying to shoot up in the ranks you know but it was always like if I had a legit job I started selling drugs making money you know what it is for a kid for and I'm not trying to tell you guys to do that give you an example of my past I want y'all to do positive things in life learn from my mistakes you know I got shot at 30 times my friends are still in jail 30 years later my best friend on Earth is in jail doing life you know what it's like to be Filthy Rich living this life you got to pray for your friend every day and talk to his mother and and you can't do nothing I can't do nothing about bringing them home it's like he's living dead you know jail ain't nothing to glamorize or glorify but you know I was just a young kid trying to get to it will you take a rap seriously this time no I loved it as a fan but it wasn't until you know everybody started going to jail and I noticed I said damn you're gonna go to jail well for a long time and so I changed my life and once I did that you know my life is like Cinderella or Robin Hood or some [ __ ] like once I got a record deal I never sold drugs again I never robbed the person again I never you know I wouldn't say get a crime because I beat people up but other than that you know uh I didn't do serious crimes after that I could just tell you that I've always been responsible and so when I first started rapping there wasn't no real money in that so even though Flo Joe went number one they would pay me 500 a show I would go ever on a Saturday and do a show one in Connecticut one Jersey one New York 1500. on a on a Friday I would go Virginia DC Philly the same night 1500. for no money I was out there just you know I always been trying to get uh aggressively pursuing money to this day that's how I work we'll keep you motivated after you know all the success and everything I just love good [ __ ] and I know that life and my family loves good [ __ ] and I know that life we only get delivered once so why not push the envelope why not go for legacy you don't this is all about educating the youth being transparent you know this is all about open hoping the gems I drop the math I drop can actually spark an idea in someone's mind you know give it that extra thing yeah I was thinking like that man maybe I gotta chill maybe I had to do something else positive you know maybe I shouldn't kill that guy you know we have real beef with all these guys thank God nobody had to kill nobody we just moved on and now we get money with each other we're friends with each other you could actually have beef for somebody who you want to kill and hurt and five years later outgrow that beef and actually be their friend yeah I think you talk about a guy that shot at you eight times in like two days Ecuadorian yeah the Ecuadorian that's so crazy Charlemagne the God asked me about that [ __ ] yesterday he read my book and he was like he was like yo the story yo this guy there was a movie called Mark for death so white boy called Richie Steven Seagal was was was had war with this guy this guy was killing everybody this guy was just like nuts and he wouldn't stop there's nothing more scary than having a guy on your ass shooting at you eight times in two days we don't rap so we don't go to the cops and be like yo the green Plymouth Reliant like we don't write so we got to deal with whatever comes this guy's a broad daylight so he pulls out a gun on me for no reason I'm going to visit my man Howie rest in peace I just posted them the other day and so how he was like this fly Spanish LL Cool J type of God he had Bemis he had benzes jury to fly his [ __ ] he was just too fly this was how we look guys in case you think I cap right so he was the leader of that neighborhood but he was a good friend of ours how he was before 50 Cent he got shot 13 times 13 times damn he didn't get shot 13 times he got shot 13 different times and it felt like he couldn't die you know Mom was like oh we got shot again it was like you know well he'll be all right he's at Lincoln you know then he had a group of soldiers right because he was a Kingpin and uh so I'm going to his block he's my friend my brother I still have pictures of him and uh some dude jumps out of him go you Joey crack I said yeah he pulls out of Mack 10. and then at the time rest in peace my brother told Montana jumps in front of me um it says Joey run because I was fat fat I got away I don't know I was running I'm surprised I didn't catch a heart attack running to the corner I'm like like you know like forget about it I was so out of shape so we hid under these uh there's these parks in the projects that got these uh concrete Turtles you know what little kids used to play and we head under there all you hear is a car going car screeching so we get home we think that's over we that was weird you know people try to kill us every day so it was like another guy who tried to kill us like right at that but literally we know this guy was coming to try to kill us kill us right so then we go the next day I call my man um I don't think I want to say his name but I had a a friend that his brother was like the biggest drug kingpin in the the biggest right and me and him was super cool so I called them and I'll tell them uh I'm wondering did I say his name in the book no so he come see me and then when he comes to see me me and Tony get in the car with him I'm like yo I need your brother or something you know I need you know I need the strength to get you know this kid try to kill us last night this is that when we say that the car pulls up the kid jumps out the passenger side like a movie starts shooting at us in broad daylight my man starts hitting the reverse like a movie and he turns and I'm like oh my God I'm ducking and all he kept saying was yo like my cigarette like my cigarette see him and his brother used to raise cars so I light his cigarette but this guy's shooting at us and he's just calmly riding in Reverse you know he gets a Saturday he said my brother is never going to help you y'all y'all got a problem right boom we go up to a whole different section of the Bronx we go see my other man tell him a story he gives us some guns and gives us a rental car so back in the days it was so hard to get a rental car it was under his sister's name so we got the rental we got the guns we go to homeboys block we passed by one time when he first pulled out the Mack 10 at me he's standing in front of the store with a couple of dues we go around the block it's like a one-way when we go down the block the guys in the middle of the street talking about you looking for me mother but we couldn't even get out the car so we reversed we got out of there next morning we're in front of our building in the rental car pulls up brought daylight shot up the whole car now we're in the middle we're in the car like we think we shot when you were here like the ladies in the building Joey Tony Molly like we was dead for sure the whole projects were screaming they killed them they killed them they killed them because he from the you know we get up like a movie like oh [ __ ] like yo we had like yo this dude is this guy was crazy right so then um the guy disappears he disappears we don't see him no more and then about a week later a white wide body kit BMW is playing music it's a riding around with love somebody to keep sitting right away the road and we we are beyond ready so we live in the projects we're in the grass um we used to stash guns in the grass so we got 10 guys out there strapped this guy comes it's my man Howie so he he was a movie so he's in the the the the bema boom he's looking straight up you don't even look at us he stops right where we at he looks at us he says Joey cracked on Montana you ain't got love for how we you ain't got you're like you Howie you like yo yo we was tight cause homeboy was from his block so he gets out the car how he's like seven foot tall handsome mellow Cool J looking him up fly jumps out the car he's like yo what's up and we start telling the story he starts laughing when he almost fell on the floor right so how we had a sling he just came from the hospital the reason we didn't see him is he had just got shot up so he came out with the like the Tony Montana sling and [ __ ] and so uh he was saying that the guy's [ __ ] the guy that was shooting at us is [ __ ] is the Ecuadorian kid he's a [ __ ] oh my God Tony Montana Fat Joe y'all scared of this [ __ ] [ __ ] so he takes us to to his blob to his hood and when he get when he pulls up that Ecuadorian kid's out there yeah yeah give me give me the kid is looking like he sees a alien he's like yo but how he said give me give me give me give me give me give me give me the guy pulls out some big ass rusty guns some big [ __ ] he's strapped this kid with strap all the time so kissing the Howie she says but how are we now he's like Joey cracked Tony Montana they're my brothers and the kid goes by how we they told me they shot you Joey crack shot you so he was a little kid trying to defend Howie so how he was in the hospital he thought they spread a rumor that Fat Joe shot Howie that's why he went so I told her you gotta let me shut this guy up you gotta let me come off and so I jump out the car and beat the [ __ ] out of the little Ecuadorian dude like you know one-on-one you know I bust his ass crazy man tried to kill me a bunch of times so uh that was the end of that damn damn man that's a that's wild man all over a misunderstanding man that's how I was in the Bronx man it was like you never know every day you came out it was like a pitfall yeah man I seen you had a relationship with Tupac um you know how'd you guys meet you know I know he was always in New York a lot um just at different events you know Tupac was another guy that it was just always violence every time I saw him so one time I was in Harlem and I seen him you know back in the days they used to sell bootleg tapes to Africans so one time I was at all I'm seeing them beating up all the African bootleg guys he was walking with boxes of Apocalypse Now you know yo this my [ __ ] this this you know I seen the fight this African dude African dude tried to pull out a sword and I seen Tupac take the sword off him when I met him I didn't know who he was he had a red bandana with two guns in his hand it's me and Wu Chang freestyling in Atlanta he was like yo what's up crack and I was like yo what's up but I really ain't know who it was he was like yo it's me pop pull the bandana there you know Tupac you know I'm in the club he runs up on me yo you've seen such and such with a gun in his hand like you know my experience with Tupac was every time I seen him he had a problem every time I seen him he had I remember one time we went to a movie premiere Park was in there he was ahead of his time he had like Versace before anybody before anybody he had the Versace [ __ ] on with the bandana had to buckle while he was fly but he kept walking out in the middle of the movie arguing with somebody on the phone you know that was Tupac I'm saying Tupac just always had drama like you know they're all up yo I'm telling you you you know you know that was just my experience with Tupac Shakur I see Napoleon talk about that you uh has some of your guys you know kind of have us back in jail well what happened was um you know when that East Coast West Coast thing was happening I was really really offended how Tupac and everybody was like really disrespected New York you know I'm a die-hard New Yorker you know and so one day I went up on the radio it was between him and Biggie but um they asked me the question and so you know Fat Joe answered like he would answer now I'd be like yo you know that ain't none of my business but if anybody stepped to me it's whatever you know what I'm saying I'm Joe crack I don't give a [ __ ] this doing all that right so now without me knowing you know Tupac's in jail in New York Upstate like an hour so the Spanish guys the Puerto Ricans start trying to put pressure on Tupac and they you know yo you gotta be for Fat Joe Papi he always this this this you know and it was really strong where he was at and so he sends me the message with Greg knights from nice and smooth he gets on the phone and he says yo I don't got a problem with you like you don't this ain't got nothing to do with you this and this and that but you know these Spanish [ __ ] they think I got a problem with you they putting crazy pressure on me you know so I had to send a kite and let all the Latinos knowing they're like yo I ain't got no B for Tupac like that I just said that he's cool and then they wind up you know I wouldn't say protecting them but you know being allies you know what I'm saying so when he came home you know he told Napoleon in the Outlaws he was like yo you know Fat Joe did me a solid you know this and this and that yeah did you guys ever get to link up when he when he got out nah Tupac was too fast Tupac went to LA that that don't happen too fast the way he got bailed out of jail he went to L.A he was you know too quick you know recently you know uh the feds have been really going after a hip-hop artists man you know uh Casanova you know recently got 15 years you know uh you know they they didn't want to let Boosie out of jail you know they even I I mean they even picked up the case you know it was a stake case and they picked it up man you know uh you know what all are you thinking about you know how do you feel about everything that's going on rappers on Danger and you got to be careful you know you got to be responsible and so this is the Catch-22 I see my little brother 21 Savage answer this um you know you can learn a lot from young young guys too you know I learned a lot from when I see podcasts or interviews with the young boys talking and it's true so you know when you become successful you have a survivor's guilt you feel like damn why I made it these are my friends we used to chip in for chicken wings we ain't have it and so want to help everybody but then a lot of your friends they're not going to rap they don't think they're going to rap that's not their future so they still in the streets so now you showing up everywhere with them your man is selling drugs your other man is a killer you know we in the hood and so the feds use that as a Rico and they locked you all up for that now so now if you cut them off you'll sell out you're a piece of [ __ ] you can never come back to your hood you know you ain't a real guy you know and if you're a real guy that supports them you end up like Irv Gotti and Chris Gotti go on the trial for some [ __ ] you never did and so it's a catch-22 it's a gift and a curse and it's a very dangerous position to be in you know often I I you know I get happy when I see you know I look at you know I have about 70 people working for me and I grew up in the projects I grew up in welfare you know I grew up with nothing and I got 70 families that cut turkeys on Thanksgiving and say hey yo thanks to the fat guy you know he fed us right when I look at one of these young kids I look at a hundred jobs I said these guys instead of robbing people committing crimes they're about to employ a hundred people and so it's a really tricky situation when you young and you in them streets because you start thinking different as you get a little older I know that's hard to understand you in your 20s making millions of dollars but if you make it to your 30s you won't be thinking like you thought in your 20s and you'll be a businessman and an entrepreneur and move on and help people you know we help people all the time you know we had uh some Muslim Brothers African Muslim brothers and sisters that they died in the fire we raised two million dollars for them in the Bronx you know Puerto Rico with Donald Trump they want to send them nothing you know we filled up a million pounds of food women's hygienes medicine generators on four planes um you know I open businesses in the hood South Bronx Harlem Washington Heights I got a school in my store where we teach kids after school now we're teaching them how to do cannabis because cannabis is legal on them and New York so they can learn how to work and Canada we trying to do anything you know hip-hop gives month and gets this black eye on it when we're really out here trying to change our community and be in our community and help them and so you know everybody's not doing negativity but the young boys got to know yo you Kings you CEOs you presidents you're gonna be somebody bro I Know It's Tricky you young they testing you you know and I don't discourage nothing because I'm still a gangster rapper right but um so I don't I'm not with people stopping your lyrics you can't say this Nah if I made an album today be [ __ ] you [ __ ] I don't care this I don't that's who I am right and um I don't tell them you gotta tone down your lyrics and nothing like that um but what I can say is they're using your lyrics against you in court so we signed a bell with Jay-Z Meek Mill me Yo Gotti you know hip-hop is creativity hip-hop is using your imagination one day I said make it rain the next day I made a song about my mother but don't bother Mia you know how many times I lied in music you know how many times I exaggerated you know how many times I use my imagination I didn't Rob the liquor store I didn't Rob poppy this and this and that so now you make a record and they use these lyrics as if you really did this and use your own words against you this is dangerous the prosecutors know it ain't true they know they're not it ain't true these kids ain't Rob the story this they sound good you dependent against them he might not have the right representation then they're gone and then we got some bad people you know this world's filled with evil people of all shapes colors and sizes you know some people are really evil some people really get up every day miserable and they hate that somebody else is successful they start looking at their lives and start thinking about everything they did wrong when they did have the opportunity they didn't take it and so they mad at people and we on Instagram showing off Louis Vuitton and [ __ ] trying to act like we inspiring somebody somebody sitting at home mad as hell that you live in Life or you taking the picture of the lobster in the state these [ __ ] ain't got chicken nuggets they at the Waffle House or Denny's he moves over Miami they mad as hell and so that's what we're dealing with you don't so I just encourage the youth to know you one day if you're lucky enough to live long enough you will see that you're going to think smarter you're going to take more family oriented and we need you to succeed so that you could come back and help your community and Inspire your community and give your people jobs that's the biggest thing you know you can do is provide for your people you know and that that you know I'm honored to say that's what we try to do on a regular basis you know uh but you know it is it's always been there you know you just gotta be smart and just know if you're friends and I said this in another interview before if your friends are really your friends let these guys get to another level it's the only way they're going to be able to help you like you know some of your friends you grew up with they feel like yo he's gonna blow up I'll never talk to him again I'll never see him again he's going to be gone he's going to be big you understand and so they do [ __ ] to pull you back this is like football where they run the running back when they grab his jersey until they bring them on the floor you know you know they hold a Jersey to the like drag them on the floor you know sometimes your friends might not want you to get ahead because they're scared of their own insecurities and so you got to spot that and be like yo let me win bro if I win you gonna win let me win man and so that's what it is you know uh anybody talking you into uh negativity and talking you out of your dreams and making you doubt yourself um I don't call them friends or family you know you don't pick your family you know your family is who they are I got some friends I love more than my family try that one just because you're born with the same last name doesn't make you a good person does it make you a loyal person you know my many artists you know how many famous people I know they got to deal with [ __ ] with their families their own families threatening them they didn't say yo I'm gonna go on the internet I'm gonna it's disgusting it's really really disgusting because when you become successful when you're a celebrity everybody thinks hey I never have to work again it's on him or on her you know how many women female artists did I know that takes care of 30 people say oh we don't have to work them what do you mean work then you got a couple of bum friends guessing you like yo why should you work Katrina's your your sister like are you you got a job she's rich and that way brings you down I told the story and um I'll leave that out but that brings you down so you got to be very careful man uh who deserves to get the blessings a lot of times you know you know that you got the uncle you ain't got to be rich you got the uncle who's coming to the wedding up or the quinceanera you got the uncle that's drunk who's going to call the girl that's 15 years old and a [ __ ] a dance her mother was never [ __ ] do you invite him to the quinceanera this year no no you get what you you understand what I'm saying oh yeah she said everybody got the uncle that's going to come in there drunk and make a movie and embarrass you you know what's happening or the aunt you know they coming do you invite him or you don't invite them same thing with with that's your family same thing with your friends if you know somebody's trying to [ __ ] [ __ ] up do you invite them or not you got legendary man you got a legendary one for the books man I appreciate you you stand up God what's up this is Cam Capone we got more content like this coming soon so hit that like button subscribe and stay locked in to cam Capone news

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Length: 92min 14sec (5534 seconds)

Published: Sat Aug 05 2023