EXCLUSIVE: Uncut Kanye West Interview From 2013

joining us today again question for the project fully grown yeah ah now you can just give me anything gonna come of it great going in class receivable okay yes so for establishing purposes would you please introduce yourself what's up on Kanye West did you ever meet J Dilla yes I did I'm not J Dilla a common script just down the street here in LA it was staying together and I just remember looking at that MPC and thinking like those drums came out of that MPC like you know arguably the best drums in hip-hop history and just remember just five away quick with him and having so much respect and just wanted to work with more what was the time like aegis xx was it post round music yeah we only focus on music me in common you know we'll go play basketball and go to movies and hanging all that but uh me and did literally just you know focus on distract he had the organic feel but still the Sonics would break through and he could give you a warm sound that steel-cut these speakers it's like he was making Quincy Jones production sessions just inside of his MPC you know like most producers you know that could make music that nos which is like 90% of producers can make things and not especially with the fruity loops and all that the challenges be colder and then my sound is known to being very colorful or more but sometimes I'd be challenged on my mixes that everything did not get hard as I wanted to or maybe by the time it came out I did what people don't realize that between says mixes tickets at that point with Dilla every time it's like that kicked just sat so perfectly and like the swings two shovels on a speed to snare choices is the way sample [ __ ] it was just like it just sounded like felt like drugs I mean his music - sounds like good [ __ ] to the layman who doesn't necessarily understand me the process of isolating you know different sounds and drum beats and how those those are sort of layered like textures could you describe that yeah well you know infer start producing you can start from sapling you can start from programming a kick drum I had in the snare and then you know you should have them like that you know my first beat - it was getting to the level of like the masters that you can played and you know except for drums from the seventies and sixties and you know mix it with some sample from the 80s and a little word sample from Charis or something on top of it James Brown screen and this combination is you know it's how people define their textures as where they are and the hip-hop producers you know are very similar to fashion design and so that's one of the reasons why I'm so interested in fashion is because the same thing people samples from like a take a military jacket and you know and modernize it so we would take you know like I'll take the odors ready gentlemen modernize it and you know texturally what you know with Margiela was the fashion is really similar to with Dilla was music it really parallels a lot because Margiela would do these interesting you know flips and abstract flips of the way you know the way you think about like a bracelet II take her like a small ring and make it like a oversized bracelet or flip a jacket inside out or cut all the edges really raw and that that rawness is you know that's what people are looking for that reality that life it's like you want good and bad one salt and pepper you want hot and sweet and he was able to capture all that and then sometimes just give you such an amazingly emotional emotional like connectives like none of the animals connected to the world but just i create my own language i just like so and you know that's what he is because it's hip-hop produces we were all designers in a way so perhaps maybe I was like the Marc Jacobs is hip-hop and it he was like more like commercial or hip-hop and you know Pete Rock was the jump uncle das after the hip hop and then you know q-tip was the Galliano or something it's like all these because I did this this comparison it creates an alter you guys same person to like the Coen brothers the Tarantino the way they put textures in if I gotta take care of chinos my blue tank to me so I was like you know do all these like ways that creative parallel yeah how do you feel that kills Reuters being from Detroit how he is affected by lowdown how that influences blushing and how that broad Motown sandwiches before from hip-hop that huh yeah and I got a special place in my heart for anyone from like the Midwest and I think that because it's in the middle of America and is so close to Motown which was my my favorite my favorite record label of all times motile you know that's going back that era of music was my favorite now my favorite artist is James Brown I also love stacks like to me like Motown and Stax were like bad boy and Rough Riders at the height you know so you got like biggie and they got DMX or you can just add Rockefeller in with that mix or something and anyone like with that with that connection to that place I mean if you look alike if the two top Grammy winners of all trauma from Chicago and like I'm like honest like pass to like you know be the top Grammy winner a lot at the that Midwestern field of that middle America so people coming up from the South the heritage and the music and that being born in that culture you know the pure it's the greatest you know musicians come out of that environment also just the struggle that we deal with in those environments you know where you're fighting you know you're fighting for your freedom you're fighting for your economic equality with your talent that's all you get there's no other chance right there and you know that pressure but spikes you know you're going to you know something great a rose is going to grow out of that concrete and that's you know dental is definitely one of those roses from time-released College off of buildings four thousand level of social jailers check it out if you talk about that time hip hop that process to Italy this one I had stars on the cover just like a rose I remember the cover though it's like where when you said it's like I see the Jalen flop pop it up I mean I guess maybe the federal phrase that is how will their styles different similar and then also complimentary to each other well I just think that Gila leaning perhaps might have been a bit more scientists perfectionist and massive I just did a bit more crazy this arresting ODB you know within that combination it's like you know the juxtaposition was what made it you know so impactful and also the fact that that is there you know in my respect for that and the fact that I came from that underground place is that is the balance that is the anchor for a college dropout to work it has to be anchored in a entire community of people that are you know believed in a certain type of anti radio music and you know I guess radio has a connotation because so many people are like it's so formulaic when people figure out a formula that works for radio there's no one that's like so see people are like fighting against it and people that fighting against it don't have the opportunities or you know they get like completely compressed or and then that's when you get things like the American Music Awards when you see it you just like while it's [ __ ] what I watch this you know where it's it's to the point where it's like there is no Michael Jackson anymore either really get like you know top stars you know copying will like it and copying with MC Hammer did there is that purity is right there because the system compresses you know tell us so much and tries to deem demonize the truth you know so they can control and sell products and [ __ ] and that's what research shame when you lose like amazing people who are so wounded and what they do or they just don't give a [ __ ] about anything else because they know you know money or no money how important it is is that mean you can you know be above the concept of money is Alea I'm lucky because I'm from Chicago and because of Chicago I don't give a [ __ ] so I care we don't get [ __ ] that's what it is second Chicago from Chicago is very sincere they got the heart like that but with a look about what everybody is saying most is from the heart that's like what is the beef from Chicago's least in the Midwest you know this thing I like sake ask salient smiling the people inside like that so if you put me in a position like that you know so I imagine it could be harder for people who are trying to fit in you know people who are trying to or people who are just like not you know being successful to do it exactly what they want to do they have to compromise you know have families to feed to have this man and they got to figure out how to make that money you know I'm like extremely boiled and extremely blessed to be able to do some veggies walking for them to work assault we can't tell me nothing for me to be able to keep it real and really make money off of being real is an extremely blessed situation which is also responsibility so it means like okay you've been given this opportunity to be like an inspiration to be you know in the lineage of what illa did and what most different quality and all that it's like but you can never forget that you can never forget about what the the point is the the message what hip-hop is about what like Public Enemy is about a buckle Maybach you know respect to the Maybach family cuz I know them but you also added show like I feel like people are controlled with like money and perception and there's very spiritual and that's an artist man Raphael painted in Jesus life and that Last Supper painting you know knowing the focus on killer that's our tactics and whisper and happened so I said I mean people just get lazy matter II had some people who are mentions like we need like fight the war head-on or some people admit to like running their house so so I'm saying all that to say as far as how difficult it is you know I advise that it's extremely difficult if you can't get paid to do exactly what you want then you're the the black king of life is having a job that's attacks you know if you have a job you know what you're doing what you love you never work a day in your life to go to fish bill with us would you describe to get back does that help you Beatrice you collaborated with adventures and hip-hop community at large I mean extremely shocking and I think as a artist we look at it more selfishly than anything you know when binky Pat until the past you know because as artists we give of ourselves and so you know he was giving the world so much biggie was given the world so much pocketed in the world so much it was they were giving all of all they had so to lose that it's like reboot we lost another point of inspiration and you know it's amazing you know how can we lose you know biggie Park you know Dilla Steve Jobs Michael Jackson and you know almost make you feel like the devil's winning like the [ __ ] system is winning inches because all these people that you know fall so hard you know and that gives me like my fight just thinking like I have to work on behalf of Dilys I have to like I put a weird-ass such any this Jamaican temples like it works at first but that's what to like they're hanging and that it sounds like art or sounds slightly wrong and now we'll go to the radio knowledge wrong [ __ ] now play this play this five minutes all that completely [ __ ] up your program like play this you know that's you know that's an lineage of it it's the best respect that we can pay to like great artists that have inspired us so much it to never [ __ ] have to sell out we got to fight you know you got to make music and we think like a Dilla was alive we like this biggie was alive we wouldn't respect what we're doing now you know when you name the song [ __ ] in Paris that you dislike so brash you know and they're grab me zone nominate that [ __ ] off you know and we keep the [ __ ] hip-hop and we just keep it moving and top of it you know this one people 21 of the book will get Bach Festival q-tips set up feeling delicious in him I only felt like this one that Dilla know what you think to imagine Midway Duda knows how to chop samples that like you know there's rules of hip-hop but it's funny because like my drill ball meters chain and [ __ ] and like you know there was like this kind of anti sitting as you go really strong like anti jewelry edge of it and you know we all know still it was definitely on the side of my grams of jewelry but to have that juxtaposition was so weird for someone to be so so talented still wear jewelry because it felt like a certain point like the jewelry where we were the less talented but I could see doing really speakeasies like really tablet [ __ ] though regardless history of a backpacker hate jewelry in that and dilla was on that side I think I just gave like a really similar Midwestern glob so funny goods like come on hit me today it was like the peaking on the phone and it's like you know you know just those those legends that aspire to plus we are 100% 1000% inspired by q-tip too though so it's like basically what he's saying like I feel like we're men me and Diller like the sons he never had what's the third level quality oil or across the beaches of it will show large who is no extraction junior to Kanye West what it's funny to do you and dark fantasy you know I had this uh.this Madlib joining and as long as no more parties in LA and Marissa told me to not do this long as I go because no la [ __ ] going to take it the wrong way inches and actually the sample for what to say to I use on the job well I used to shake that Bob because I was like this is the most amazing such example and also that was you know go states got that from an old school record also so own it was good justify when I went in like met with doom and like man lit up had to totally soul record set up in other room the crappie came through that night and it's just those moments when you meet with these people and you understand that you know that this is a culture and a lifestyle and the inspiration for so many and it's not like a fad it's not just like a spray-painted [ __ ] t-shirt or something it's like literally when I was 14 you know I was considered weird I come at Chicago's with I was just hip-hop it [ __ ] it feels like amazing when you can walk into these spaces and you know live inside of that creative zone people just keep it you know to that level of fury because you know the music can meet can mean everything and it is everything and like how close you get to those samples in the nuances and the way you chop it up into people's appreciation for it is an amazing art form in a culture man it's like this [ __ ] hip-hop is just as important as Basquiat T or Hall you know anyway it seems like it's been made less important because it's important that attached to commercial you know to commercial air she ality or commercial products isn't you know so I give these like weird roundabout answers and [ __ ] for that but sometimes the answer isn't like just black and white like that oh I just paint the scene that's how I felt sitting there with Mad Libs you know working on these strikes here in the texture and my thing as Kanye West is when I'm working with it working with Dillo working with my liver working with tipper working RZA he's just to see it and understand what it is I felt about it that you know what tip were RZA gave me as a kid because they gave me more than money you know they gave me inspiration you know and how to you know take the elements of greatness and only the elements that can be understood in that year that is coming out and forevermore though you know so a moment like dark fantasy or like you know like oh no all life like tip at it like those weird should making big snares in the back or like chain heavy things like that so or even like I still go through old Dilys mixtape matter of fact matter about stuff we have to get like some more manly beats from the next in the next projects yeah well he left you know I love her couple years ago it was boarded put bottom out of these on hold which we expected usual you know what I'm gonna go back to that song this one and then we'll party to LA I'm just like do the write the record it was like some over the career get up you're a brand with my sheets kale orange from the spray tan no more parties in that leg no more parties in LA just some [ __ ] I'm gonna go I'm loaded up this joint dark fantasy dog vendors who is always I was just like no for floor because it wasn't like his favorite rappers was douchebag and out and [ __ ] and it was like we had to like live in the legacy like mob be cool tank just period man [ __ ] everything else

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Keywords: Kanye West, Yeezy, Yeezus, Hip hop, Rap, Music

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Length: 22min 31sec (1351 seconds)

Published: Tue Mar 07 2017