[MUSIC] >> WELCOME TO EWTN LIVE WHERE WE BRING YOU GUESTS FROM AROUND THE WORLD. TONIGHT WE HAVE A GUEST WHO MAY BE A PRETTY WELL-KNOWN FACE TO YOU IF YOU WATCHED EWTN'S COVERAGE OF THE FEAST OF DIVINE MERCY FROM STOCKBRIDGE, MASSACHUSETTS EVERY YEAR ON THE SUNDAY AFTER EASTER, WHICH IS MERCY SUNDAY. BECAUSE HE CO-HOSTS THE SHOW WITH FATHER JOSEPH ROESCH. HE IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT A NEW WEEKLY SERIES HERE ON EWTN DESIGNED TO HELP US LIVE OUT THE DIVINE MERCY EVERY DAY. THIS PROGRAM IS CALLED LIVING DIVINE MERCY YOU WILL BE ABLE TO WATCH IT ON EWTN BEGINNING IN SEPTEMBER. IT WILL BE ON WEDNESDAYS AT 6:30 P.M. EASTERN TIME SO PLEASE WELCOME THE DIRECTOR OF THE ASSOCIATION OF MARIAN HELPERS AND THE HOST OF LIVING DIVINE MERCY, FATHER CHRIS ALAR. GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE. >> GREAT TO BE BACK. I CAN'T BELIEVE IT WAS ALL THE WAY BEFORE COVID THAT I WAS LAST WITH YOU AND BROTHER JASON LEWIS TO TALK ABOUT SUICIDE. >> EXACTLY, EXACTLY. AND HAVE YOU FOUND THAT BOOK IS CONTINUING TO HELP PEOPLE. >> FATHER, AS I ALWAYS SAY IT'S THE MOST FORTUNE SUCCESS WE HAVE HAD. THERE ARE REPORTS NOW, AND THE OFFICIAL STATISTICS FROM NOT OUT YET BUT THE CALLS TO SUICIDE HOT LINES ARE UP 500 TO 600 PERCENT SINCE COVID STARTED BECAUSE OF THE ISOLATION, THE FEELING OF LONELINESS SO WHEN PEOPLE ASK HOW IS THE BOOK DOING, I SAY UNFORTUNATELY VERY WELL. THAT'S VERY HARD THING FOR PEOPLE TO DEAL WITH RIGHT NOW. >> YOU KNOW I HAVE HEARD RECENTLY IN FACT, JUST THIS WEEK, THAT THE WAITING TIME FOR THE SUICIDE HOTLINES IS SOMETIMES THREE HOURS. >> THIS IS WHAT IS VERY TROUBLING AND SOMETIMES -- GOD BLESS THE PEOPLE AT THE HOSPITALS TRYING THEIR BEST WITH ALL OF THE REGULATIONS TO GET THROUGH. WHAT IS HAPPENING, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE REPORTING THEY'RE GOING TO THE HOSPITALS TO SEEK EMOTIONAL TREATMENT, MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES AND THEY'RE BEING SENT HOME BECAUSE OF THE FEAR OF THE CORONAVIRUS. OUR QUESTION THEN BECOMES AT WHAT BALANCE DO YOU TAKE BECAUSE WE HAVE A RISK OF THE PHYSICAL CORONAVIRUS OF COURSE. BUT, BOY, THESE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES ARE NOT TO BE TAKEN LIGHTLY. SO WE HAVE A REAL SITUATION. >> ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD SUGGEST TO THOSE WHO ARE WAITING A LONG TIME TO BE ON A HOTLINE FOR THE SUICIDE HELP LINES, GET AHOLD OF FATHER'S BOOK AND READ THAT DURING THE WAIT, AND USE THAT AS PART OF YOUR PRAYER. THE BOOK IS CALLED AFTER SUICIDE, THERE'S STILL HOPE FOR THEM AND YOU. THIS IS BY FATHER CHRIS ALAR, MIC. YOU CAN GO TO EWTN, NUMBER 4798. GO TO www.ewtnRC.com. IF YOU'RE FEELING DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY, YOU MIGHT WANT TO GET HOLD OF THAT AND TAKE THAT WITH YOU. SO RELATED TO THIS THOUGH, AND ON THE OTHER SIDE MUCH OF THE FLIP COIN IS CALLED UNDERSTANDING MERCY. THIS IS PART OF THE EXPLAINING THE FAITH SERIES, AND IT'S PUT OUT BY THE MARIAN PRESS. >> YES. >> WHICH IS YOUR PRESS. >> THEY HAD TO PUBLISH IT BECAUSE I'M THE HEAD OF IT. SO I SAID WHAT KIND OF REVIEW PROCESS IS THIS BOOK GOING TO GO THROUGH BECAUSE BEING IN CHARGE AT MARIAN PRESS IS A BLESSING. HERE IN STOCKBRIDGE WE HAVE BEEN BLESSED TO HAVE GREAT BOOKS LIKE FATHER DON CALLAWAYS SERIES, BOOK ON SAINT JOSEPH CONSECRATION SO IT'S AN HONOR TO FOLLOW, ABOVE AND BEYOND ALL OF THESE BOOKS IS THE DIARY OF SAINT FAUSTINA. AND WE HAVE BEEN HONORED AND PRIVILEGED TO BE INVOLVED WITH SUCH TYPES OF BOOKS. THIS BOOK HERE IS TRAILING BEHIND BUT WE FELT TIME LIP AT THIS NEEDED TIME IN THE WORLD. >> NOW, SAINT FAUSTINA TALKS ABOUT THE WAY MERCY IS BEYOND UNDERSTANDING. WHAT ARE YOU UP TO? >> YOU KNOW FATHER I HAVE -- THAT'S THE MOST COMMON QUESTION I HAVE GOTTEN CONCERNING THE BOOK; FATHER -- IT'S A LITTLE PRESUMPTION TO TITLE THIS, UNDERSTANDING DIVINE MERCY, WHO DO YOU THINK YOU KNOW ARE TO EXPLAIN THAT? DOESN'T JESUS SAY -- AND HE DOES ESSENCE, YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND GOD IN MY ESSENCE. YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND ME AND MY ESSENCE. >> SO FOLKS UNDERSTAND THAT, AND THAT'S REALLY SOUND THEOLOGY BECAUSE GOD'S ESSENCE OR SUBSTANCE IS INFINITE. OUR MINDS ARE FINITE. SO YOU HAVE A SMALL BRAIN TRYING TO COMPREHEND THE INFINITE GOD. YOU WON'T DO IT. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THAT, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE, THAT'S WHAT KEEPS GOD ETERNALLY INTERESTING. >> EVER CHANGING TO US BUT NOT CHANGING IN HIMSELF. >> RIGHT. AND IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE JESUS DID SAY IN THE DIARY THAT EVEN THE ANGELS CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO COMPREHEND MY MERCY. IT'S BEYOND THEIR COMPREHENSION. >> THEY ALSO ARE FINITE. >> YES. >> THEY'RE STRONGER THAN WE ARE IN MIND BUT THEY'RE STILL LIMITED. GOD ISN'T. >> AS I HEARD -- I THINK IT WAS YOU OR FATHER ROCHELLE SAY, THE FASCINATING THING ABOUT THE ANGELS THEY WERE CREATED ABOVE AND HIGHER THAN MAN BY NATURE BUT BY GRACE MAN HAS BEEN ELEVATED IN THE INCARNATION BOTTOM ANGELS? IF GOD IS SAYING YOU CAN'T COMPREHEND ME IN MY ESSENCE, THAT PASSAGE THAT WE LIST HERE ON PAGE 1, GOD SAYS, YOU CAN'T COMPREHEND ME IN MY ESSENCE. BUT, HE SAYS, YOU CAN COME TO KNOW ME THROUGH MY ATTRIBUTES. AND GOD'S GREAT OF THE AT BEAUTY TO BE SO PRESUME ISSUES ASSAYING UNDERSTANDING DIVINE MERCY, NOT IN HIS ESSENCE BUT IN HIS ATTRIBUTES. >> WHEN YOU DISTINGUISH THE ATTRIBUTES OF GOD FROM HIS ESSENCE, WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO? WOMB BY THAT. >> WE JUST MENTIONED SOME OF THEM. AND GOD'S ATTRIBUTES -- IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE FEASTS FOR ATTRIBUTES OF GOD. WE DON'T HAVE FEASTS FOR THE OMNISCIENCE OF GOD. WE DON'T HAVE A FEAST FOR THAT BUT WE HAVE A FEAST FOR DIVINE MERCY. THIS IS WHERE IT MESSES PEOPLE UP ON OUR WEBSITE, THE DIVINE MERCY, MEANING A PERSON. SO JESUS IS NOT JUST THE ATTRIBUTE BUT IN DIVINE MERCY IT IS THE PERSON. YOU HAVE THE ESSENCE OF HIS MERCY AND HIS ATTRIBUTES AND YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE NOT JUST CELEBRATING THE FEAST OF AN ATTRIBUTE WITH DIVINE MERCY BUT WE'RE SEPARATING THE SPIRIT OF JESUS IN THE HOLY FATHER'S ENCYCLICAL, HE SAYS BASICALLY IF YOU CAN ENCAPSULATE, SHOW IT, CAPTURE IT, YOU -- HE IS THE LIVING FACE OF THE FATHER'S MERCY AND THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF IT. >> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE IDEA OF MERCY BEING PERSONIFIED IN JESUS FIFTH A PATTERN -- FITS A PATTERN OF WHAT OUR LORD SAYS ABOUT HIMSELF, WHEN HE SAYS I AM THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD, I AM THE BREAD OF LIFE. WE HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH JOHN 6 IN THE ROMAN RITE, AND THAT THIS IS -- I AM THE BREAD OF LIFE DISCOURSE, I AM THE WAY,.TRUTH AND THE LINE. I AM DIVINE. I AM THE RESURRECTION AND THE LIFE. AND ST. PAUL ALSO IN CORINTHIANS WHERE ONE SAYS JESUS IS OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS, HE PERSONIFIES FIVES THESE ELEMENTS. IT'S AS WE MIGHT SAY BACK IN MY HOMETOWN OF CHICAGO, IT'S NOT WHAT YOU KNOW, IT'S WHO YOU KNOW. >> THAT'S WHY WEE CALL THIS ETERNAL WORD. CONGRATULATIONS TO EWTN. ONE OF A PART OF THAT 40 YEARS WHICH HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN MY VOCATION AND FINDING MY CALL TO THE PRIESTHOOD. THAT'S WHAT WE FIND WHEN JESUS SAID I AM, AND THIS IS WHO HE IS. THAT'S WHY WE CELEBRATE DIVINE MERCY OF THE PERSON. THAT'S WHY THE WEBSITE IS DIVINEMERCY.ORG. IT'S THE PERSON. >> A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE NEED TO HAVE A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST, THEN WE CAN ALSO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENT STATEMENTS S UP SAY I HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH MERCY. >> THAT'S BEAUTIFUL GIFT THAT GOOD GIVES US. HE SAYS THROUGHOUT THE DIARY OF SAINT FAUSTINA I AM MERCY ITSELF. WE THINK OF GOD AS TRUTH ITSELF, GOD AS WISDOM ITSELF, BUT HE IS MERCY. HE IS MERCY ITSELF. AND THIS IS WHY WE HAVE WRITTEN THE BOOK. THAT'S WHY WE MARIAN FATHERS AND GOD BLESS EWTN, HAVE WORKED TOGETHER FOR YEARS -- FOR YEARS BRINGING THIS TO THE PEOPLE AND NOW MORE THAN EVER IS THAT NEEDED. >> IN OUR PRESENT SITUATION, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF VERY IMPORTANT CALLS TO JUSTICE. YOU KEEP HEARING PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE NEED FOR JUSTICE. BUT WHAT I DON'T SEE IS THE BALANCE OF THE NEED FOR MERCY. AND I SENSE AN AWFUL LOT OF ANGER AND GETTING BACK AT PEOPLE. THAT'S PART OF THIS MOVEMENT FOR JUSTICE. AND A MEAN-SPIRITED ELEMENT. HOW DOES THIS CALL TO MERCY HELP TO BRING BALANCE TO THIS CALL FOR JUSTICE IN OUR SOCIETY? >> IF WE LOOK AT WHAT JESUS SAID, AND IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE, THE GREATER THE SINNER, THE GREATER THE RIGHT HE HAS TO MY MERCY. JUSTICE IS ABOUT RIGHTS. >> THAT'S AN INTERESTING WAY THAT OUR LORD SAYS THAT. >> WHAT IS JUSTICE? IT'S YOUR RIGHTS. IT'S JUST THAT YOU DISCERN YOUR RIGHTS. WELL, THAT'S WHY RELIGION IS UNDER THE VIRTUE OF JUSTICE. BECAUSE GOD IS DUE OUR WORSHIP. PEOPLE DON'T EVEN REALIZE THAT, THAT RELIGION -- OH, BEYOND RELIGION. ACTUALLY WE DO. IT'S A VIRTUE. BECAUSE RELIGION IS GIVING GOD HIS DUTY. IT'S JUSTICE. IT'S WHY IT'S UNDER THAT VIRTUE. SO WHEN JESUS SAID THAT THE GREATER THE SINNER, THE GREATER RITE -- HE USED THE WORD RITE, HE HAS DIVINE MERCY. I THINK OF THE ANALOGY OF THE BATTLEFIELD. YOU HAVE TWO SOLDIERS ON THE BATTLEFIELD, SAY WORLD WAR II, AND IN THE ELEMENT OF WAR, ONE IS SHOT, BLEEDING, HEMORRHAGING, NEAR DEATH. THERE'S A WHAT HAPPENS HE COULD BE SAVED IF THEY STOP THE BLEEDING. ANOTHER ONE JUST CUT HIS FINGER, A MEDIC. WHICH ONE HAS THE GREATER RIGHT TO THAT MEDIC? IT'S NOT THE ONE WITH A CUT FINGER. IT'S THE ONE THAT IS HEMORRHAGING. THE GREATER SINNER IS BLEEDING, HE IS NEAR DEATH, AND HE HAS THE RIGHT, PER JESUS' OWN WORDS, TO THAT MEDIC. WHAT IS THE MEDIC -- POPE FRANCIS SAID, TALKING ABOUT THIS IS LIKE A FIELD HOSPITAL. IT'S GIVING US THAT MEDICINE THAT WE NEED. BACK TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT JUICE I HAVE ALWAYS RELATED IT TO THE FACT THAT IT IS JUSTICE WHEN GOD COMES TO THE SINNER AND GIVES HIM THE MOST MERCY BECAUSE IT IS HIM WHO HAS THE GREATEST RIGHT. AND FATHER SEOPHIN USED TO SAY GOD'S MERCY IS HIS JUSTICE. HE IS KEEPING HIS PROMISES. WHAT IS HIS -- IT'S A PARADOX, THE FIRST WILL BE LAST, THE RICH WILL BE POOR, YOU HAVE TO DIE TO LIVE, AND HERE HE IS SELLING US THE GREATER THE SINNER THE GREATER HE HAS A RIGHT TO MY MERCY. >> EVEN IN THE CALL OF SAINT MATTHEW, THE APOSTLE, OUR LORD COMPARES HIMSELF TO A PHYSICIAN. YOU MADE THE COMPARES SON. AND HE SAID I CAME NOT FOR THE RIGHTEOUS BUT THE SINNERS. >> HE SAID THE SICK ARE THE ONES WHO NEED LIGHT. >> THAT'S WHERE THE COMPARISON TO A PHYSICIAN COMES IN, IT'S THE SICK THAT NEED A PHYSICIAN, NOT THE HEALTHY. AND I CAME FOR THE SINNERS, NOT THE RIGHTEOUS. >> THAT IS THE BASIS OF WHAT I SAW IN MY PERSONAL VOCATION. WHAT BROUGHT ME BACK TO THE FAITH -- I WAS BORN CATHOLIC. I'M A CRADLE CATHOLIC BUT WHAT BROUGHT ME BACK WAS THE DEATH OF MY GRANDMOTHER TAKING HER OWN LIFE. I WAS CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF A SCOTT HAHN, DEACON ALEX JINS, THESE ARE THE GUYS THAT SET OUT TO DISPROVE THE CATHOLIC FAITH AND ENDED UP BECOMING CATHOLIC. SCOTT HONG WAS PEREZ TEACHER. WHEN STARTING THIS, YOUR QUESTION IS ANGRY WITH GOD AND I THOUGHT A GOOD AND LOVING GOD WOULD NEVER ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN. I ENDED UP BECOMING CATHOLIC. I ENDED UP BECOMING A PRACTICING CATHOLIC. BECAUSE IN THAT I FOUND, MY GOODNESS, WE HAVE A GOD WHO IS SO MEASURE I FEEL AND LOVING, EVEN IN THE MIDST OF A SUICIDE WHICH I WAS OUGHT THAT MEANT AUTOMATIC DAMNATION. THERE WAS NO IF, ANDS OR BUTS ABOUT IT. IT WAS GUARANTEED, AUTOMATIC. THERE'S NO SUBJECTIVE ELEMENT BECAUSE OBJECTIVE THEY TOOK THEIR LIFE. AND THERE ARE MANY FACTORS THAT GO INTO A SUICIDE. IT COULD BE DEPRESSION OR MENTAL DISEASE OR WHATEVER. THAT WAS THE BEAUTY OF EWTN FOR ME WAS FINDING, WAIT A MINUTE HERE, I WANT TO BLAME GOD, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO TURN AWAY AND NOW I'M JUSTIFIED BECAUSE HE DIDN'T STOP MY GRANDMA. IN THE MIDST OF THAT I WAS AMAZED AT WHERE GOD'S MERCY WAS EVEN IN THE MIDST OF THAT SUFFERING AND THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF OUR CATHOLIC FAITH. THAT'S WHAT YOU, SCOTT, MOTHER ANGELICA HAVE BEEN TEACHING FOR DECADES AND MEANS SO MUCH TO SOMEONE NOW SITTING BEFORE YOU AS A PRIEST. >> I THINK A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE THINGS THEY CAN RELATE TO. OFTENTIMES IT'S NOT ONLY IN THE CULTURE THAT WE SEE A LACK OF MERCY TOWARDS PEOPLE YOU KNOW DISAGREE WITH. >> SPECIAL ON SOCIAL MEDIA. THROW A GRENADE AND HIDE BEHIND THE ROCK, RIGHT? >> YEAH. I COULDN'T IMAGINE BEING ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA. I WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT WORLD. IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A VERY HAPPY WORLD TO SAY THE LEAST. BUT THERE'S ALSO THIS OTHER ELEMENT THAT PEOPLE FIND IT DIFFICULT TO BE MERCIFUL TO THEMSELVES. IT'S ALSO CONNECTED TO THE SUICIDE ISSUE I THINK. THEY FIND IT DIFFICULT TO ACCEPT THEIR OWN LIMITS, THEIR FOIBLES, THEIR MISTAKES AND IS SOMETIMES BIG SINS. THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE GROUPS LIKE RACHAEL'S VINEYARD. PEOPLE HAVE PARTICIPATED OR BEEN PART OF GETTING AN ABORTION FIND IT HARD TO FORGIVE THEMSELVES. THERE'S A NEED FOR THAT MERCY TOO ISN'T THERE, FATHER 12345. >> THAT'S WHY WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS SHOW AND THE NEW SHOW, OF LIVING DIVINE MERCY. BECAUSE WE'RE FINDING THOSE STORIES. WE'RE BRINGING THE STORIES; THE SHOW IS GOING TO BE DIVIDED FOR A -- THE FIRST SEGMENT, YOU HAVE TO BEAR WITH ME. IT'S A TEACHING SEGMENT. YOU KNOW -- ST. THOMAS AQUINAS SAID TO SEE YOU I HAVE TO KNOW YOU. AND THERE WOULD BE A TEACHING SEGMENT WHERE NINE OR 10 MINUTES I GIVE A TEACHING AND THEN WE GO IN TO SEE WHERE THAT MERCY IS BEING LIVED. ON OUR VERY FIRST SHOW, JEOPARDY OF A WOMAN THAT WE CAME TO NOPE THAT LOST HER FAMILY IN A TRAFFIC ACCIDENT. AND HER HUSBAND, HER SON -- IT WAS AN ABSOLUTE TRAGEDY FOR HER TO LOSE THIS SON. THIS IS WHERE WE FACE THE MOST DIFFICULTY THE TO. EITHER THERE'S AN EMBRACE OF GOD, TURNING TO GOD OR THERE'S A REJECTION OF GOD, AGAIN, HOW COULD YOU LET THIS HAPPEN. AND MIXED IN THAT IS THE BLAMING OF ONE' SELF. WELL, WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS ACCIDENT, YOU WILL SEE THE STORY SEPTEMBER 1. >> WELL, I THINK WE HAVE A CLIP. >> YES. >> LET ME TAKE A LOOK AT THE CLIP. >> BUILDING THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS A CATHOLIC BOOK STORE IN PENNSYLVANIA. HER UNLIKELY STORY BEGAN 20 YEARS AGO ON THE WORST DAY OF HER LIFE. >> WE WERE COMING BACK FROM A FAMILY VACATION IN LANCASTER. ON THE WAY BACK THERE WAS HEAVY TRAFFIC IS. HUSBAND THE MAKE SURE THE KIDS HAVE THEIR SEAT BELT ON. I LOOKED BACK AND I SAW A TRUCK APPROACHING US. AND I KNEW WE WOULD BE HIT BY THIS CAR. THEN THERE'S AN ACCIDENT AND I FELT IMPENDING OKAY. MANY. I FELT CLOSELY TO THE HOLY MOTHER. I ONLY KNEW THREE PRAYERS, HAIL MARY, GLORY BE AND OUR FATHER. AND I GRABBED THAT NECKLACE. IT WAS LIKE SPONTANEOUS REACTION. I FELT GOD SAY TO ME, DO YOU WANT TO LIVE OR DO YOU WANT TO COME HOME? AND I SAID I HAVE TO LIVE BECAUSE I HEARD MY DAUGHTER GRACE SAY MY NAME FA. NOW I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT DIVINE MERCY WAS OR DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT BUT HE WOULD THE -- I WOULD HAVE MERCY ON YOU AND I SAID, YES, I WILL DO WHATEVER YOU WANT ME TO DO. I HAVE TO LIVE. >> THAT MESSAGE, FATHER, IS THIS. ALL OF US WILL FACE SOME KIND OF LOSS, TRAGEDY. >> LIFE IS HARD. >> JESUS NEVER PROMISED -- WHAT'S THAT OLD SONG FROM THE '60S, HE NEVER PROMISED YOU A ROSE GARDEN AND THE POINT I THINK IMPORTANT HERE, WHEN WE FACE THOSE TRAGEDIES, WE HAVE ALE CHOICE THAT WE CAN TURN TO GOD FOR BLAME OURSELVES, NOT ACCEPTABLE FORGIVENESS AS YOU MUST MENTIONED AND KIM WAS A PERFECT EXAMPLE. I CAN EITHER GOD AND FORGIVE MYSELF FOR NOT GETTING IN THE CAR THAT DAY. IF I LIVE 50 MINUTES EARLIER OR LIGHTER MY FAMILY WOULD BE HERE. THOSE COULD HAVE WOULD HAVE SHOULD HAVE ARE. >> AND THERE'S A LITTLE IMPORTANT TIDBIT BUT WHEN YOU WATCH IT, ONE OF HER CHILDREN SURVIVES AND I HOPE YOU CAN JOIN US. >> SO ONLY ONE OF HER CHILDREN SURVIVED. >> ACTUALLY TWO. THE LITTLE GIRL. AND I SHOULD SAY IN THE CAR. THE ONE THAT WAS LEFT AT HOME WITH A BABYSITTER HAS GROWN UP TO BE VERY INTERESTING. YOU WILL SEE THAT ON THE SHOW. WE HAVE THAT CHOICE, REMEMBER, GOD IS WILLING TO FORGIVE AS WE FORGIVE OTHERS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE MISTAKES. YOU KNOW, WITH MY FAMILY'S TRAGEDY, WITH MY GRANDMOTHER, MY GRANDFATHER COULD HAVE BLAMED HIMSELF FOR LEAVING MY GRANDMOTHER ALONE. THAT'S WHEN SHE TOOK HER LIFE. BUT YOU JUST CAN'T CONTINUOUSLY LIVE IN THAT FRAME OF MIND. >> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. THERE HAS TO BE A POINT AT WHICH YOU SAY, LOOK, I'M NOT IN CONTROL. AND THERE ARE FACTORS THAT INCLUDE THE FREE WILL OF THAT OTHER PERSON, THE PRESSURE THAT THAT PERSON FEELS PSYCHOLOGICALLY FOR WHATEVER ELSE IS GOING ON WITH DESPAIR OR OTHER PROBLEMS, AND THERE'S SOMETIMES EVEN A LITTLE BIT OF PRIDE INVOLVED AND THINKING, WELL IF I HAD DONE THIS -- BUT IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT WHAT WE DO. >> IT'S GOD'S PROVIDENCE. NOW, SOMETIMES WE DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. GOD'S ORDAINED WILL VERSUS PERMISSIVE WILL. IN GOD'S ORDAINED WILL HE DIDN'T WANT THIS SUICIDE. HIS PERMISSIVE WILL, THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CONTROLLED IT. THERE'S PRIDE IN THERE THINKING THAT WE COULD HAVE STOPPED IT. BUT GOD IS THE ONE WHO DECIDES IT. AND THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF THIS SHOW. IN ADDITION TO THE TEACHING SEGMENT AND THE SEGMENT ON LEAVE IT ON MERCY, WE READ FROM THE NEW DIVINE MERCY BIBLE. IT'S A BIBLE THAT GIVES PASSAGES AND SCRIPTURE AND THEN AFTER THE PACKAGE EXPLAINS WHERE THE GOD IS IN IT AND WE HAVE OUR MEN IN MARIAN AND OUR PRIESTS AND BROTHERS. WE HAVE FATHER JOE ROESCH, AND HE READS THE PASSAGES FROM THE DIARY THAT MATCH THE STORY THAT WE TOLD. SO IT'S A BEAUTIFUL MINISTRY BEING ABLE TO SPREAD GOD'S DIVINE MERCY. >> THE WAY YOU PRESENT THIS, IT MAKES THE MERCY OF GOD -- OR GOD WHO IS MERCY, BETTER YET, MORE CONCRETE THAT THIS BECOMES SOMETHING THAT WE CAN RELATE TO IN EXPERIENCE AND PERHAPS TAP OUR OWN EXPERIENTIAL NEED FOR MERCY AND OUR OWN EXPERIENCES OF PAST MERCY. I THINK THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT THING. WITH THESE DIFFICULT TIMES AND SITUATIONS, IT'S SOMETHING PRO BUCK HAD SAID IN HER 80, THAT A LOT OF THE STRATEGIES OF MY LIFE MADE NO SENSE UNTIL I GOT TOWARD THE END. THAT'S NOT UNUSUAL. OFTENTIMES I THINK PEOPLE WASTE A LOT OF THEIR TIME AND ENERGY SAYING, WHY IS THIS? AND I HAVE TO KNOW. AND YOU CAN'T. YOU HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE HOW THINGS UNFOLD TO UNDERSTAND. >> YEAH. >> ONE THING THAT ALWAYS CRACKS ME UP, AND I DON'T MEAN THAT IN AN IRREVERENT WAY BUT THROUGH OUR LORD'S CONVERSATION WITH PETER WHERE HE SAYS HE HAS TO GO TO THE CROSS AND PETER SAYS, NO, LORD, YOU WILL NEVER GO TO THE CROSS. AND JESUS TELLS HIM, YOU ARE THINKING NOT AS GOD THINKS BUT AS A HUMAN BEING THINKS. AND I THOUGHT POOR PETER. HE WAS A HUMAN. HE WAS A REGULAR GUY. HOW COULD WE BLAME HIM FOR THINKING LIKE A GUY. THAT'S WHAT KEEPS US FROM THE NATURAL LEFT IF WE ONLY REACH THAT WAY THE. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FORGIVENESS AND MERCY. THIS IS SENIOR SPHRMT I ASKED HIM, DR. INTEREST HONG CAN I STEAL THIS? HE TAUGHT US MERCY IS GREATER THAN FORGIVENESS. AND I THOUGHT HOW COULD IT BE GREATER THAN FORGIVENESS? HE SAID THINK ABOUT IT. FORGIVENESS IS REQUIRED ON THE NATURAL LEVEL. IF EVERYBODY WAS VENGEFUL AND I WAS TO SEEK REVENGE OR OF EVER EVER -- THIS WORLD WOULD BE IN A DEEPER MESS. NOW HE SAID FORGIVENESS IS NECESSARY. BUT MERCY REACHED TO THE SUPERNATURAL LEVEL. IF I CAN SHARE, THE QUICK STORY HE USED AND I LOVE IT -- HE USED THE EXAMPLE OF THE MAN UPON DEATH ROW. HE SAID I WANT TO GIVE YES, I DO TWO SCENARIOS AND IT WILL EXPLAIN SIN, HE SAID, PICTURE THIS GUY ON DEATH ROW. HE HAS A TERMINAL DISEASE NO, FAMILY. HIS FAMILY DISOWNED HIM. HIS RECORD IS A MILE LONG. HE IS GOING TO BE EXECUTED. AND GUY COULDN'T HAVE REALLY MUCH GOING FOR THEM. SUDDENLY HE SETS A CALL AND THE JUDGE SAYS, I'M PARDONING YOU, YOU'RE FREE. AND HE LOOKED AROUND AND SAID THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. HE WALKS OUT OF THE FRONT DOOR OF THE PRISON. THE DOOR SLAMS BEHIND HIM. HE IS STILL ALONE. STILL HAS NO FAMILY. HE'S STILL GOING TO DIE IN SIX MONTHS. STILL HAS A CRIMINAL REPORT AND CAN'T GET A JOB. BUT HE'S BEEN FORGIVEN FROM THAT BY THE STATE. THE STATE HAS FORGIVEN HIM. NOW, SCOTT HONK SEWED EMINENT DOMAIN THIS. AND GOT A CALL FROM THE GOVERNOR AND HE SAID I HAVE PARDONED YOU AND FORGIVEN YOU OF GREURMD. THE GOVERNOR SAID HOLD ON THERE'S MORE. WHEN YOU WALK OUT THAT FRONT DOOR, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LIMOUSINE AND IN THAT LIMOUSINE WILL BE A DOCTOR WHO FOUND A CURE FOR YOUR TERMINAL ILLNESS. HE WILL DRIVE YOU TO MY MANSION AND I WILL ADOPT YOU AS MY OWN SON, YOU WILL HAVE A JOB IN MY ADMINISTRATION FOR YOUR WHOLE LIFE AND I WILL WIPE YOUR RECORD CLEAN. SCOTT HAHN SAID THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE. THAT IS MERCY. BECAUSE MERCY GOES BEYOND. IT'S GREAT TO BE FORGIVEN BUT BEING FORGIVEN JUST MEANS I DON'T WISH YOU ILL, YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN, I'M ON MINE. JESUS TOLD US THAT, MERCY TAKES IT TO ANOTHER LEVEL WHERE WE RECONCILE. THAT'S WHY THE SACRAMENT ISN'T JUST CALLED THE SACRAMENT OF FORGIVENESS BUT THE SACRAMENT OF RECONCILIATION, LIKE THE PRODIGAL FATHER. I SHOULD SAY THE PRODIGAL SON. I CALL HIM PRODIGAL FATHER. WHAT DOES PRODIGAL MEAN? IT MEANS TO SQUANDER. IT IS ACTUALLY THE PRODIGAL FATHER WHO SQUANDERED MERCY ON HIS SON. WHEN HIS SON CAME BACK, HE DIDN'T SAY I FORGIVE YOU. BUT YOU LOST MY TRUST. YOU CAN WORK AS A HIRED HAND. NO, HE INVITED HIM BACK INTO HIS ARMS AND EMBRACED HIM AS A SON. THIS IS WHY MERCY IS GREATER THAN FORGIVENESS. FASCINATING. >> THE SYMBOL OF PUTTING A RING ON MEANS YOU BELONG TO A FAMILY AND PUTTING SHOES ON MEANS THAT YOU'RE NOT A SLAVE. SLAVES WOULD NOT HAVE THE SHOES THAT THE SLAVES WOULD HAVE. >> IF IT WOULD HAVE JUST BEEN FORGIVENESS THIS BOY WOULD HAVE BEEN A WORKING HAND. HE WOULD HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN AND ABLE TO COME IN AS A WORKING HAND. HE ISN'T. HE IS RECONCILED BACK INTO THE FAMILY. AND THIS IS THE BEAUTY. SO SCOTT GOES ON TO SAY, I MENTIONED BEFORE I HAD AN EMPLOYEE STEAL $2,000 ONCE FROM ME. AND PEOPLE ALWAYS THINK FORGIVENESS IS SO HARD. IT'S REALLY NOT BECAUSE FORGIVENESS, WHEN THE EMPLOYEE STOLE THE MONEY, IT FORGAVE HIM BUT YOU CANNING BET I STILL FIRED HIM. SOMETIMES YOU JUST FORGIVE AND CUT LOSE. AN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP IS AN EXAMPLE. I FORGIVE YOU HAVE BUT I CUT YOU LOOSE. THERE'S PROBABLY NOT PRUDENCE FOR A WOMAN TO SEE A MAN PHYSICALLY ABUSING HER. SHE HAS TO PROTECT HERSELF. FORGIVENESS DOESN'T REQUIRE RECONCILIATION BECAUSE THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE IT'S NOT. BUT IN OTHER SITUATIONS LIKE THE FATHER AND THE SON IT WAS THE EMBRACING OF THAT BOY COMING BACK AND HIM OPENING UP HIS ARMS AND SAVING YOU ARE MY SON. THERE'S NOTHING YOU COULD HAVE DONE THAT TAKES AWAY THAT ELEMENT OF OUR RELATIONSHIP AND THAT'S WHAT GOD DOES TO US AS YOU KNOW, FATHER IN THE CONFESSIONAL. PEOPLE COME TO ME AND SAY, FATHER, I DON'T KNOW WHY TO BEGIN. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY WAY GOD CAN FORGIVE ME. REALLY. THERE'S NO SIN OUTSIDE OF THE MERCY OF GOD. THERE'S NO SIN GREATER THAT NEVER THE MERCY OF GOD THAN THE SIN OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. SO AS LONG AS WE ASK, HIS MERCY IS OVER ABUNDANT AND FIDES ET RATIO UNCONDITIONAL. >> THIS IS SOMETHING VERY CENTRAL TO UNDERSTAND. WE WILL TAKE A BREAK AND COME BACK IN A COUPLE OF MINUTES AND CONTINUE TALKING ABOUT UNDERSTANDING MERCY IN THIS NEW SERIES ABOUT DEMONSTRATING MERCY IN CONCRETE SITUATIONS. PLEASE STAY WITH US. (MUSIC) (MUSIC) >> WE ARE SPEAKING TO CHRIS ALAR WHO IS FROM THE MARIAN FATHERS AND FATHER CHRIS ALAR IS GOING TO BE HOSTING A NEW SERIES IN SEPTEMBER. IT WILL BE ON WEDNESDAYS AND IT WILL SHOW AT 6:30 P.M. EASTERN TIME. IT REPEATS ON MONDAYS AT 4:00 A.M. >> YOU CAN CATCH THAT ONE, FATHER. >> I'M NOT IN EASTERN TIME. >> THAT WOULD BE 3:00 YOUR TIME, EVEN MORE HARDER. >> THAT WOULD BE. SOMETIMES MY FOOL CATS WAKE ME UP AT THAT TIME AND STONE MOUNTAIN. >> IF YOU HAVE INSOMNIA THAT WILL BE A GREAT WAY TO GET YOURSELF TO SLEEP. >> IT WILL BE A GREAT SERIES TALKING ABOUT EXPERIENCE OF MERCY. SO WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING SOME OF THIS AND TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFICULTY THAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE IN EXPERIENCING MERCY. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE MORE CAPABLE OR TO SHOW MERCY FORGIVENESS TO OTHERS BUT THEY DON'T BELIEVE; YOU MENTIONED GOD'S MERCY IS STRONGER THAN SIN. TO PUT IT THIS WAY, THAT THE CROSS OF JESUS CHRIST, WHO IS INFINITE GOD MADE MAN DYING ON THE CROSS, THAT CROSS IS MORE POWERFUL THAN ANY SIN WE CAN COMMIT. >> ABSOLUTELY. ONE DROP OF THE PRECIOUS BLOOD WAS ENOUGH TO REDEEM THE WORLD. I ALWAYS SAY, WHEN PEOPLE COME UP TO ME, THAT SIN, THE SIN THE LORD TALKS ABOUT, I WAS DOMINICAN TRAINED AND I WILL TALK ABOUT ATTRIBUTING TO SATAN THE WORKS OF GOD AND THAT'S ONE OF THE EXPLANATIONS OF THAT SIN, THE SIN OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. BUT FINAL PENITENCE. IT COMES TO ME IN THREE FLAVORS HOT AND YOU MEET PEOPLE WHEN YOU TRAVEL. I'LL HAVE STARTED CONVERSATIONS AND HEARD PEOPLE SAY, FATHER I DON'T GO TO CHURCH BECAUSE I WOULD BE HYPOCRITICAL. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'VE DONE. GOD CAN'T FORGIVE ME. FIRST OF ALL GOD CAN DO ANYTHING. HE CAN FORGIVE YOU. THAT'S A LITTLE PRIDE BECAUSE YOU THINK YOUR SIN IS GREATER THAN GOD'S MERCY. >> THAT'S AN ISSUE OF SPIRITUAL PRIDE TO THINK, WELL, I'VE GOT SINS EVEN GOD CAN'T FORGIVE. NO, YOU DON'T. SETTLE DOWN. >> SO THAT'S THE FIRST FLAVOR. LET'S CALL THAT THE FIRST FLAVOR OF THE UNFORGIVABLE SIN. THE SECOND FLAVOR IS GOD CAN'T FORGIVE ME BECAUSE HE HATES ME. NO. GOT LOVES YOU. THE VERY FACT THAT YOU JUST TOOK THAT BREATH THAT YOU TOOK MEANS GOD LOVES YOU. HE SUSTAINS YOU IN EXISTENCE. AND SO THOSE PEOPLE WHO FEEL THAT GOD DINNER SHOULD SAY HE CAN'T BUT HE COULD FORGIVE ME BUT HE WON'T BECAUSE HE HATES ME. THIS IS ONE UP I DIDN'T -- YOU WOULDN'T BE EXISTENCE WITHOUT GOD'S MERCY. AND KNEE LOVES YOU. >> I IN HAD A GUEST ONCE, ARCHBISHOP JAMES KELLERER. HE USED TO BE THE ARCHBISHOP MUCH KANSAS CITY, KANSAS. HE TAUGHT HIGH SCHOOL RELIGION. THE LINE I REMEMBER MOST FROM HIS COURSE, I SAID, YOU SAID TO US IF GOD CEASED THINKING ABOUT YOU FOR EVEN A MICROSECOND YOU WOULD CEASE TO EXIST. WITHOUT EVEN A PUFF OF SMOKE. >> EXACTLY. THAT SHOWS HE LOVES YOU. >> YOUR EXISTENCE IS AN ACT OF GOD'S LOVE. BUT YOU HAVE TO GO FROM JUST EXISTING TO HIS MERCY. >> AND SO WHAT WE TRY TO TEACH PEOPLE GOING BACK TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT YOU FIRST HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT MERCY. YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT IT. HERE IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM, FATHER. WE TEACH WHAT IS CALLED THE ABC'S. THIS GOES BACK TO FATHER KOSICKI AND THE FIRST EWTN BROADCASTS. I HAVE LEARNED THE DIVINE MERCY FROM THERE MENTORS. AND I'M HONORED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE LEARNED FROM THEM. BUT HE WAS ALWAYS ONE THAT TALKED ABOUT THE ABC'S OF MERCY. A WAS ASK FOR GOD'S MERCY. IT'S STEP ONE. YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE FIGHTING ADDICTIONS OR ANY KIND OF SIN, YOU'RE A PERPETUAL SINNER AND GOD ASKS, YOU HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THERE'S A PROBLEM. YOU HAVE TO SEE THERE'S A PROBLEM AND YOU HAVE BEEN -- IF RECOGNIZE IT. FATHER WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN OUR TRAVELS, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT AIRPORTS WHEN I STRIKE UP CONVERSATIONS, WE'RE IN A TIME, THIS POST CHRISTIAN SOCIETY, THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THE SENSE OF SIN. AND POPE PIUS XII SAID THE GREATEST SIN OF THE 20TH CENTURY IS THE LOSS OF THE SENSE OF SIN. >> THIS IS WAS A POINT MADE IN A BOOK CALLED WHATEVER HAPPENED TO SIN BY DR. MENNINGER. I'M NOT SURE HE WAS A BELIEVER. HE SAW A PSYCHOLOGICAL CRISES IN THE FACT THAT PEOPLE NO LONGER HAVE A SENSE OF SIN. THEY DON'T KNOW THE IMPACT ON OTHER PEOPLE AND ON THEMSELVES, AND THEY DON'T HAVE A SENSE OF FORGIVENESS. >> THEY'RE NOT FORGIVING THEMSELVES BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A SENSE OF IT. AND WE ALL HERE THE KEYWORD NOW "DON'T BE JUDGMENTAL" AND I ALWAYS SAY, LOVE THE SINNER, HATE THE SIN. WE DON'T JUDGE THE PERSON OBVIOUSLY. THAT'S GOD'S JOB. SUBJECTIVE FACTORS LIKE MY GRANDMOTHER TAKING HER LIFE. NOBODY KNOWS THE SUBJECTIVE FACTORS THAT SHE WAS GOING THROUGH - MENTAL ILLNESS, DEPRESSION, ANXIETY. ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE THE PERSON BUT THE THING THAT WE LOSE IN OUR SOCIETY IS WE FEEL JUDGMENT INCLUDES THE ACTIONS, THAT WE CAN'T -- EVEN THOUGH ADMONISH THE SINNER IS AN ACT OF MERCY, WE DON'T DO THAT. WE'RE DISCRIMINATORY BECAUSE WE ADMONISH THE SINNER NOT OUT OF SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS BUT OUT OF LOVE. IF YOU'RE ON THE WRONG ROAD OR I'M ON THE WRONG ROAD I WOULD WANT YOU TO HELP ME SO I DON'T GO OF CLIFF. HELP KEEP ME BACK ON THAT ROAD. THAT'S THE LOVING ADMONISHMENT. WE JUDGE NOT THE SINNER BUT WE JUDGE THE SIN. THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE GET ALL UP IN ARMS TODAY ABOUT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO THAT. >> AGAIN, THE CULTURE HAS REALLY FLIPPED TOPSY TURVY UPSIDE DOWN AND TWISTED THE TERM MERCY. WE TALK ABOUT MERCY KILLING. >> YES. A FALSE MERCY. >> A SINFULLY FALSE MERCY. BECAUSE I HAVE MERCY ON YOU, I WILL KILL YOU. >> RIGHT. I DON'T WANT TO SEE YOU SUFFER. >> RIGHT. >> ON THE OTHER HAND, WHEN ONE OF THE SPIRITUAL ACTS OF MERCY IS TO CORRECT A SINNER. >> WITH LOVE. >> YOU WANT THE SINNER. AND I THINK THERE ARE TALK SHOWS THAT HAVE BEEN ON OTHER THAN TELEVISION NETWORKS WHERE THEY BRING THIS STRING PEOPLE DOING HORRIBLE THINGS AND FIGHTING ON STAGE AND YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE PHYSICAL GUARDS TO PROTECT PROTECT -- I WAS WATCHING AND I BECAME NOT INTERESTED IN THE SHOW BUT I WAS WONDERING, WHY ARE THESE PEOPLE WATCHING THIS NONSENSE? >> IT'S A SAD COMMENTARY ON OUR HUMAN TEAM AT THIS POINT. >> AFTER A WHILE I CAME TO THE POINT OF THINKING, A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE WATCHED THIS FOOLISHNESS BECAUSE THEY SAID, WELL, I KNOW I'M BAD. I'M NOT THAT BAD. >> YOU GOT IT FATHER. THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THIS WHOLE ELEMENT IS THE FACT THAT AS SOON AS WE CALL OUT THAT ACTION -- NOT THE PERSON BUT THE ACTION -- LIKE I HAD A WOMAN COME TO ME ONCE. I THINK IT WAS IN AN AIRPORT IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. SHE SAID ARE YOU A CATHOLIC PRIEST. I SAID YES AND STARTED TALKING. AND SHE FELT BAD THAT HER DAUGHTER -- SHE WAS BEING JUDGMENTAL ON HER DAUGHTER AND HE WAS FEELING BAD ABOUT IT BECAUSE SHE DID NOT DRIVE HER DAUGHTER TO THE ABORTION LINK AND PAY FOR THE ABORTION. THE DAUGHTER CALLED HER JUDGE SACRAMENTAL SELF RIGHTEOUS AND NOW THIS MOM HAS A GUILT OF LIVING WITH THIS AND WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT HER MOM DID WAS THE RIGHT THING, BECAUSE SHE LOVES HER, SHE DOESN'T WANT TO SEE HER DO THE WRONG THING: THIS IS HOW WE MIX IN OUR WORLD TODAY WITH ACTIONS VERSUS PEOPLE. AND I WILL TELL A STORY, IN A SEMINARY CLASS BEFORE THE TEACHER CAME IN, THERE WERE TWO SEMINARIANS HAVING AN ARGUMENT ABOUT IMMIGRATION. AND ONE SEMINARIAN SAID, WELL, I THINK THIS. AND THE OTHER SEMINARIAN SAYS WELL MY OPINION IS THIS. I FORGET THE TOPIC BUT IT WAS A POINT ABOUT MY OPINION, I THINK THIS AND THAT -- AND THE PRIEST WALKS IN AND HEARS THIS CONVERSATION AND HE LOOKS AT HIM IN TODAY'S POLITICAL CORRECT WORLD AND HE SAYS, WHAT YOU THINK DOESN'T MATTER. YOUR OPINION MEANS NOTHING. WHAT MATTERS IS THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH IS WHAT MATTERS. SO I CAN HAVE, FATHER, ALL OF THE OPINIONS I WANT ABOUT ABORTION IN ONE ESSENCE. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF I BELIEVE IT'S OKAY. OBJECTIVELY, THE TRUTH IS, IT'S NOT. SO WE JUDGE THAT ACTION OBJECTIVELY IS WRONG. NOT THE PERSON BECAUSE THE WOMAN COULD BE FORCED INTO IT. SHE COULD BE SCARED. SHE COULD BE TRAUMATIZED. SHE COULD BE THREATENED BY A BOYFRIEND. IF SHE DOESN'T ABORT HE IS GOING TO BEAT HER UP. SO WE DON'T JUDGE THAT PERSON BUT WE HAVE TO SAY THAT ACTION -- WE CAN'T CONDONE THAT. >> IT'S STILL OBJECTIVELY WRONG. THERE MAY BE A LOT OF FACTORS IN THERE, AND I CAN BE COMPASSIONATE BUT I NEED NOT LET SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO DO SOMETHING WRONG MANIPULATE ME EMOTIONALLY. AND THIS IS EXACTLY ONE OF THE PROCESSES GOING ON IN OUR MEASURELESS CULTURE THAT PEOPLE ARE BEING MANIPULATED IN THEIR EMOTIONS, ESPECIALLY WHEN PEOPLE ARE MADE TO BE AFRAID. >> YES. >> THAT MOM, I'M AFRAID MY DAUGHTER MAY NOT LIKE ME ANYMORE. SO THE DAUGHTER CAN MANIPULATE HER. I MAY NOT BE POLITICALLY CORRECT, I WILL BE CANCELED. >> IT'S A REAL FEAR. PEOPLE ARE BEING CANCELED ALL OVER THE PLACE BY MERCILESS PEOPLE SEEKING JUSTICE THAT HAS NO MERCY IN IT. WE HAVE TO SAY YOU CAN CANCEL ME. I DON'T CARE BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GO TO BE MANIPULATED BY FEAR OF WHAT YOU MAY DO FOR ME. >> THIS WHOLE SHOW THAT IS BASED ON OUR BOOK, UNDERSTANDING DIVINE MERCY, IT CAME OUT OF COVID WHEN WE STARTED LIVESTREAMING MASSES AND TALKS. WE WONDERED WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN TO OUR DIVINE MERCY MINISTRY AND IT BRINGS A GREATER GOOD AND WE HAVE SEEN RESPONSE HAS BEEN AMAZING OF PEOPLE JOINING THE MINISTRY AND PART OF DIVINE MERCY THROUGHOUT MARIAN HELPERS. BUT THE POINT IS WHY, WHY NOW IS GOD BRINGING THIS MESSAGE TO THE FOREFRONT? THE LAST THREE POPES HAVE BEEN MERCY POPES. POPE FRANCIS DECLARES A YEAR OF MERCY. JESUS INSTITUTES THE FEAST OF MERCY. HE TELLS -- JOHN PAUL SAID DIVINE MERCY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT MERCY OF OUR KIND. JESUS SAID IT'S THE LAST CHANCE FOR MANKIND TO HAVE SALVATION. WHY ALL OF THIS NOW? BECAUSE MAN LOST HIS WAY AND THE ONLY WAY BACK IS TO BE ASKING FOR GOD'S DIRECTION. BEACH CANNOT JUSTIFY OURSELVES. IT SAYS IN THE SCRIPTURES WHERE SIN ABOUNDS GOD'S MERCY IS PRESENT EVEN MORE. SO THIS IS A TIME OF SIN, BACK TO PIOUS XII. HE SAID MANKIND IS MORE SINFUL TODAY THAN HE WAS AT THE TIME OF THE FLOOD. WHAT IS GOD'S ANSWER TO THAT. IF MANKIND IS MORE SINFUL TOLD, WE SAID A MINUTE AGO HE NEEDS THE DOCTOR THEN AND THAT'S WHY GOD IS GIVING US THIS UNPRECEDENTED TIME OF MERCY. IF YOU DO NOTHING ELSE IN YOUR LIFE, TAKE GOD'S MERCY -- I WANT TO SAY TAKE ADVANTAGE AND THAT'S NOT ALWAYS LOOKED AT AS THE RIGHT EXPRESSION BUT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF GOD'S MERCY. AND NOT TO SCARE ANYBODY BECAUSE JESUS SAYS TAKE IT NOW BECAUSE AFTER THIS WILL BE THE TIME OF MY JUSTICE. >> THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE VERY SERIOUSNESS. >> ARE I THINK MEN WHO WOULD WOMEN WHO ARE ZERO NOT MARRYING EACH OTHER BUT BRINGING CHILDREN INTO THE WORLD AND THEN NEGLECTING TO TEAR THEM, THAT'S NEGLECT. AND TO ENTER THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WITH COMMITMENT TO THE MAN AND THE WOMAN WHO ARE THE CO-PARENT OF YOUR CHILD AND SHOW MERCY. YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE SAY TO ME, DO YOU THINK THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS FALLING APART BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO CHURCH ANYMORE. I SAID, LOOK, YOU CAN'T GET FATHERS AND MOTHERS TO STAY WITH THEIR OWN CHILDREN LET ALONE THE CHURCH. THEY DON'T COME TO THEIR OWN FAMILY MEAL TOGETHER. THEY DON'T EAT THE MEAL TOGETHER. LET ALONE THE MASS. SO THERE'S A NEED FOR MERCY ON MANY LEVELS AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE ALL HAVE TO BE ALERT TO. >> THAT'S WHAT THIS SHOW IS AIMED AT, AND WE'RE VERY THANKFUL OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH EWTN IS GOING TO HE CONTINUE IN THIS BIG WAY BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SO PREVALENT. MOTHER ANGELICA WAS REALLY INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING JOHN PAUL II BUT MOTHER ANGELICA WAS RIGHT UP THERE WITH OTHERS BOUGHT SHE WAS THERE SAYING I WANT THIS MESSAGE TO SPREAD THE MESSAGE OF DIVINE MERCY. >> IT'S A COMMITMENT THOSE OF US WHO ARE STILL HERE HAVE HAD AS VERY MUCH A PART OF WHAT WE DO. WE WANT JUSTICE. WE WANT MERCY. WE WANT THOUGHTFUL BALANCE THAT -- GOD IS -- IT'S AT THE ESSENCE OF HIS EXISTENCE. GOD COMBINES MERCY AND JUSTICE PERFECTLY. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO LEARN. >> WE JUST HAVE A FAIRLY SHORT TIME LEFT BUT I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT YOUR BOOK IS CALLED " "UNDERSTANDING DIVINE MERCY" PEOPLE CAN GET THAT FROM OUR RELIGIOUS CATALOG, www.ewtnRC.com. AND I WANT TO HAVE THEM DO THAT. AND WE ALSO WANT THEM TO WATCH YOUR NEW SHOW, LIVING DIVINE MERCY WITH FATHER CHRIS ALAR. IT WILL BEGIN WEDNESDAY AT 6:30 EASTERN TIME AND REPEATED ON MONDAYS AT 4:00 A.M. WOULD YOU JOIN ME IN GIVING A BLESSING - ALMIGHTY GOD CAUSE HIS FACE TO SHINE UPON YOU AND SHOW YOU HIS MERCY, THE FATHER, THE SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT. AND WE CAN BRING YOU FR ALAR'S NEW SHOW BECAUSE THE NETWORK IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY YOU, KEEPING US IN BETWEEN YOUR GAS BILL AND CABLE BILL. THANK YOU. (MUSIC)
