Ethan Reacts to Dreams Cheating Scandal

minecraft drama dream is this minecraft youtube speedrunner who's like catapulted to fame i mean if you go to his channel here um gosh he he has 22 million but i feel like he just got started like a year ago 23 million subs just watching my algorithms get crushed right and his he's got these these minecraft videos that have like 30 to 90 million views now i'm not putting a value judgment i don't know anything about minecraft so i'm not saying like oh this content stupid river i don't you know i don't know clearly it's good people love it you know do any of you guys do anything about dream uh i i was aware of him just because his presence on the internet is kind of hard to avoid uh i think he's been big i think he's been growing for a while you know it wasn't just recently although i i agree i feel like i just heard about him yeah in the last year it seems like he's really just everywhere well hold on his oldest v i don't know if he erased but his oldest videos from one year ago he must have erased i'm looking at his social blade for that channel right now and it was created in 2014 um so uh the the at least the channel's been around for a lot longer than that this time last year he had just over 2 million subs wow wow so in one year's time he's gained 21 million subbies right so the guy he's apparently this minecraft savant who's been like breaking records and doing all this crazy but like what's interesting to me is that he's been accused of cheating quite a bit and he's gotten into f there's like it reminds me of the king of kong you know this documentary where pretty similar it's it's like all these people get into it about uh donkey kong who has the top record someone's accused of cheating it's all it's so dramatic but it's so entertaining so love has been in a dispute with the minecraft mods do you just you just said love has been dream yeah love what do you say love i didn't realize you were involved yeah i haven't shifted in minecraft as far as i know that's exactly that that's literally what dream is that that's what's with the screen what is with love screen what's with yeah this is glare in my eyes um he's been accused of cheating by like the mods okay of the speed run website and he and then he even he went so as far to prove that he's not cheating is that he hired some harvard mathematician to write proofs about how he's not stealing and and it's boiled up to the point where dude here let me it's it's i cannot believe the drama of all this let me show you guys first of all some of dreams world records because i don't even know what the this is well it's not a world it's not a world record but what does it mean to speed run minecraft well minecraft has a has a an end right i guess of it i mean most people play it in a very kind of just like open way where you just kind of do whatever you want but um but there is there is an actual game to it well when i was playing there was no game but i guess now they added where like there's a they have to get to the ender dragon and kill the ender dragon right yeah and so that's a speed run to do that okay i see so um well yeah here it is let's watch the big moment he's going to take out that wonder dragon boys crafting uh picking yes let's get it exciting stuff we got a stone axe on deck let's go i guess this video is really long here i want one yeah we had a timestamp to the end i'm not sure uh what happened to that it's just kind of chaotic i feel bad for feeling [Music] go yeah there you go that was the end right there oh he just dynamited him or something yeah using some like exploit you know like most speed runs let's go okay you gotta hear what he says right here though oh really yeah knowing what we know now hell yeah hell yeah oh my god i'm so happy but i am so mad dude that would have been world record that could have been world record i had insane luck oh my god insane in that room at like 12 minutes dude if i took the same time on the end of that just took just then that okay so he says insane luck so these mods have been crunching the numbers being like the the amount of luck you get is impossible in short like in a in a random number generated world it's it's it's uh impossible here's a video of them calling him out here let's see let's take a look at dreams odds this isn't exactly a good look across six streams dream bartered 262 times and got 42 pearl traits which when plugged into the formula comes in at 1 in 177 billion so these guys crunch the numbers they're like this is mathematically impossible and then dream instead of being like yo you guys got me or whatever he goes out of his way he like wages war on these mods there are like these small community mods he accuses them of like lying and trying to to like defame him and i mean they're cloud chasers just like yeah like anybody who says anything about anybody on the internet let's see here's after tweet about it my 1.16 run was just rejected after research due to it being too unlikely to verify a video was made by a head mod and youtuber geosquare using my name and clickbaitings cheating bro look he's so different they get easy views he's literally calling him a cloud chaser let's go the problem is with this talking about this dream guy is that he has like very scary dedicated fans bro this is like some this is like giving me flashbacks to bts this you don't want to ever cross dream fans bro i mean yeah the dream fans are the dream fans are uh pretty intense but it's nothing compared to the army still oh really okay that's good yeah army strong love bts by the way we love bts brah never die never surrender pjs he diaz forever oh my god but anyway this guy youtuber geosquare who now he's on he's a small-time youtuber as he said using my name to get easy views definitely a response to total bs currently have multiple mods messaging me that they believed the verdict was biased and they might quit the mod team what kind of investigation was this well anyway of course these guys were right as he showed it was like a one in 77 billion chance that he would get so lucky on his speed runs to get like the he gets and um this guy was so dedicated to proving his innocence he had a minecraft statistician or a harvard statistician write an extract look at this bro are you kidding me how is this not king of kong this is a 17 page i think even longer i think it's like 19 pages something like that what is this report this word is a discussion on minecraft speedo or dream who during a live stream with speed running attempts on the minecraft 1.16 random seed glitches experience fairly low probability events over seemingly specific lengths of time extremely rare events pique our interest and we can re and we can require an explanation eg the purpose of deciding whether dream speed runs are eligible for official leaderboards so we hired this guy commissioned him wrote this whole scientific graph some chin he's like i was like the is this bro this has got to be a documentary this is some king of kong for sure look at this section 6.1 binomial distribution for blaze rod drops 6.2 probability evaluations for elder elder pearls ender pearls i can now calculate the probability of receiving the number of successful trades of dream six streams in question i was like whoa bro this is insane blaze rod probability we got curves hell yeah we got ender pearl boost amount versus interpol uh plot by photo execute i don't know bro i mean look at this have you i've never seen video games taken to this level before let's go so at any rate god i mean wow this this is insane we got maths and everything man so here you go okay now it comes out that apparently people started calling and the question this scientist who we hired this is an astrophysicist that graduated from harvard to prove that he didn't cheat in a 19 page report detailing why he didn't cheat and why the accusations of geosquare was wrong here's dream talking about why he hired this astrophysicist this is amazing stuff you guys come on even if you're not into minecraft which i'm not at all yeah me neither but this story is just so good professor with a phd that graduated from harvard that's actually a practicing astrophysicist that is an expert in statistics and astro statistics after reaching out to this expert he insisted that if he was going to do this analysis that i must agree to release his findings regardless of if they made me look good or they made me look bad knowing that i'm innocent i agreed the mod team is a group of respectable people but they're also young and a group of volunteers so it's hard to fault them for making mistakes when compared to a full-time professional with a specific expertise in a field like this after extensive research into the mods math and the logic and reasoning behind this math the expert found that the math was off [Music] okay so yeah i mean yeah so now people are going over this astrophysicist's math and being like yo you made a bunch of errors and then when this guy started getting heat from people apparently he just disappeared right he dipped he just was like uh bro what did you get me into which is kind of what i'm wondering what i'm getting myself into oh yeah leave dream alone so these are the small time mods who he's on and calling liars by the way minecraft speedrun this you know they've got let's see 4 500 followers on twitter you know that he's beefing with this guy with 23 million subs right following the report released by photo execute excitation that was commissioned by dream numerous qualified sources have examined the math and found considerable flaws both in the method methodology and accuracy of calculations our team has compiled a short response addressing the claims and the critique this response attempts to clarify our original statement as well as critique the math in the report we continue to stand by the conclusion that there is no feasible legitimate way dream experienced his rates in the october uh 16 speed run attempt amazing uh amazing look at the top comments by the way top comment is dream did not cheat not because of his position but statistically possible speaking there is always a chance not always a chance there's no such thing as a coincidence yeah i mean i know that what's the chance that trisha was in a photo with both those people there's always a chance there's no such thing as the coincidence i love this like this like 15 year old is trying to do like uh he's trying to argue with like mathematicians bro there's always a chance if we use the lottery for example the chances are are absolutely slim but there are so many different probabilities but it isn't impossible here's another one jesus you got to leave him alone let him have his speed run no feasible ways basically saying impossible yeah so there you have it now i don't know what exactly prompted dream to put this out but now he recently just fessed up to it he made a statement being like yeah i cheated what prompted him to do that do you know that's a good question i guess maybe just mounting pressure from people pointing out that all of his arguments don't make any sense i mean in retrospect you know now that we know that he did cheat and that these mods were right i mean it was of course he cheated like they said it was like a one in 17 billion chance that this happened it's like i'll tell you it's so obvious to be able to understand the games if things are appearing like way too you know there's a really interesting story i used to play a lot of poker in college and there was people playing poker who had super admin access and these guys who play poker on a high level are like brilliant mathematicians and they started noticing like this guy is winning way too often and something doesn't add up so they started crunching this random person's numbers they would play they would sit at the table with him and and then analyze his hands over like 10 000 hands and they could show very clearly on a chart that the the the amount of hands he was winning and the plays he was doing compared to other pros was like way off the charts like a nominal and that's how they caught this guy it was like this huge scandal back in the 2000s that somebody from like the poker stars team was playing high-level poker with the super admin account and these mathematicians this is what they did with dreams run it just dream is this guy right the king of kong guy yeah you got to watch the king of comp that bro this needs to be a documentary well dream is anonymous he doesn't show his face so i don't know you wouldn't be able to involve him i guess this was the villain from king of kong he had all the records and it turns out he got like all of his scores scrubbed for cheating so you know i cannot find my cursor okay so for some reason he put out this statement and then immediately deleted it like this guy is just kind of bro i don't understand this dude basically he says it's a really long post and kind of i when i first read this i thought it was like a ironic i was like does this serious like i feel this is something important to talk about i've been very withheld for a while about it and just decided i'd probably be best just let it out so i can feel relaxed a little more this will be a very long read yadda yadda oh he goes i'm writing this in my bathtub at 4 am on my phone so forgive my mistakes he wrote this on his phone come on you expect me to believe you wrote this on your phone in his bathtub like candlelit you cheated on your speed run i don't believe anything he says now back in november 2020 i for the first time since 1.16 had released i decided to try a speed run and get a decent time my goal was to get faster than 25 minutes which was a pretty good time and fairly attainable yadda yadda well his is ex it's so long you guys yeah we definitely don't need to read the whole thing but what he what he ends up fessing up to is that he does have a mod installed and uh yeah that changed the drop rates just like everybody had said from the beginning and he said oh i didn't know he's like i just he said i just changed the drop rates because it would save me time from having to start new games every time well specifically to to give his argument a fair shake what he's saying is that he didn't think the mod that he had installed affected the speed run so he knew it was installed but he had it installed for his other content because he doesn't just do speed running he's just like a general i'm sorry but if you understand the game as good as he does you understand absolutely i think he's full of but this is just this is what he's saying is that like it's so if he has this mod installed to make these rare items drop way more common it's so obvious when you're playing and it's working or not yeah come on dude yeah so obvious well he's just getting lucky that's what he said in the at the end i got so lucky you know it's funny and then he gets in an argument with all these people where they're like there's no possible way to get that lucky and he's like i don't know there's a chain talking about there's always a hell chance you know i had a physics teacher in college he goes you know there's a chance that you could just fall through the earth because the molecule is just a line it's like a one in a billion chance but there's a chance so anything's possible right i wish i had some choice passages from this was there anything funny worth talking about in this the the fact that he was writing in the bathtub is probably the funniest part at 4am yeah dick in hand yep hey guys i just beat off a quick one and i'm feeling really relaxed soaking in my own filth i'm typing this on my cell phone so please ooh baby oh no no no no there is kind of a fanfic about dream even though it doesn't show his face he's got like that corpse husband thing where they go i'm soaking in a bathtub oh god i just wipe i just cleaned my ass i don't ever i'm in the bathtub sitting in poop and jizz my candle light oh yeah so anyway i just thought it i thought the whole story arc was super interesting how he like hired this mathematician relentlessly attacked these poor mods who were right in the end right it's worth noting too that and i won't necessarily put this on him but he we were alluding to his rabid fan base this was part of his those mods were getting like just horrible death threats and sent to them by you know his supporters and everything because they were right those poor guys so you would think that his fans would be pissed like oh my god we defended you and you cheated this whole time after all this back and forth and drama here's the here's the if i'm being honest i don't care you cheated i like watching your content for fun and many other people do i like you said you were never a professional speedrunner you only did it for fun bro you hired a mathematician what's fun about that you literally went and bought hard and made this whole hub of about how you got a harvard educated phd to write a dissertation i need that clout that guy could have been working on something important and he's writing papers about speed runs that were faked you know what i mean we don't have very much phd physic physicians physicians physic physicians [Music] physics citizens in the physical physicists in the world you want them people go this is what i've been trying to explain you're getting so much hate over a block game bro you're the one that hired the physicist he's like i need albert he's like put together his own like uh manhattan project to prove he wasn't cheating i need all the biggest brains in the world to prove that these mods of a 4500 follower twitter account are lying about [Music] me i can't believe people are so upset over minecraft well i'm with him there no you're living but basically they're like oh it's just a misunderstanding we love you i don't care about dream though this thing was weird billy mitchell vibes [Music] yeah so he erased his apology that he he wrote at 4 a.m in a pool of in a bathtub of his own jizz yeah and then he goes this guy lot i don't know this guy must be a pathological liar or something because there's nothing he says makes sense like guys use your brain he goes pastebin i post the other day was removed by staff no it wasn't yeah it's not a thing i just come on dude you don't have to lie to kick it bro you know what i'm saying so i deleted the tweet so annoying okay bro sure it's so annoying the paste bin mods deleted your post no they didn't so repost it this guy lies about everything i'm telling you i can tell and then he talked about in a video here he is when i when i saw this video this is where i fully turned on emotions oh really well just hear what he said okay so this is him addressing the whole controversy after the fact um hbo please pick this up it'd be a whole different story if i was like you know i don't know maybe it'd be i feel like it's one of those situations where communication was the biggest flaw i guess communication miscommunication bad communicate poor communication between me and the mod team poor communication between me and the dev and then just emotions i guess um you know i had i had you know i had huge emotions the monty met huge emotions um the public had huge emotions you know my fans had huge emotions it was just like this fest of everybody being hugely emotional and what is hugely emotional i've never heard that i've expressed it that way before i've never heard uh the problem was i was lying expressed as i miscommunicated yeah well yeah that's one way to put it yeah i guess a lie is a miscommunication in a way so he's like bro oh oh i was cheating the whole time i forgot totally misunderstood i i i i miscommunicate when i said when i said that you're full of i didn't cheat i i misspoke i missed you he's like they miscommunicated too it was a whole communication breakdown you know everybody's kind of at fault here right minecraft a lot of blame to go around on this in this whole situation i just find it so ironic that his fans are now like why is everyone getting heated over minecraft but that's his whole life he's the guy who's like that minecraft guy yeah oh yeah you want him to take it seriously or not right and look and play that again zach yeah that's him oh yeah hell yeah what are we talking about he sounds pretty hyped he sounds like he's pretty into it right basically i don't know i feel like it's one of those things where it's just it's a it's a shitty situation regardless stream the elmo game right now nah uh i i don't know i'll wait i'll see i'll see what dunkey says let's see what donkey says oh donkey made a video about him slamming him slammed him donkey i can't i can never tell if donkey's actually being serious or not but his video was so funny you know i i was watching the whole thing waiting for the bait and switch because oftentimes he'll kind of troll with that kind of stuff and then the video just ends with dreams of yeah he sucks and yeah but he actually just on dream okay it was awesome it was short too i kind of want to watch it yeah no i mean i think people at this point uh people made up their mind either way like people are acting like this like this like mental thing and you just said you cheated bro made up their mind it's you confessed well i guess he means do you buy my excuse that i didn't know i was shooting or right right right right me a professional minecraft player that's dedicated my old life to minecraft didn't know i'm unaware of like that's like that's like a mlb like a baseball player being like i swear to god i didn't know the bat was corked i was just using a bat right i felt the same it's like bro the bat feels very different when it's corked and you're a professional player you know that shut the up you just lied about paste bin removing your post that didn't happen right and the whole thing was that this he he got lucky over the course of six videos so it's like yeah you have one time where it's like holy i'm just getting god rolls right now everything's going my way sure but when you do it six times in a row and your entire life is minecraft you know something's off after after even two times in a row sometimes you get what you deserve oh yeah i just want to watch this documentary so bad it would be so good especially if we get donkey to narrate it running a misinformation campaign in order to try and like be like oh dream dream you need to get taken down like he cheated in his manhunts he cheated in his speed runs he cheated and all the cheating and everything it's like even if you even if you say um even if you want to believe that i intentionally cheated on the one 1.16 submitted run on twitch um which i didn't but if you want to believe that i did that's fine okay but don't try and discredit my accomplishments or my youtube channel for something that wasn't on my youtube channel was never uploaded on my youtube channel never had anything [Music] i don't know anything about them please don't hang please don't kill me dream fans just listen to what i'm saying the pace spins the story you know that's i'm sorry the mods don't care explain to me one rationale where this paste spin mods delete is post for no reason doesn't happen oh my gosh yes hey you want to watch donkey's video about this and i have to say i don't know anything about minecraft i really need to i'm just captivated by the story yeah i mean i i i'm not a minecraft player myself and but it's just it's shakespearean bro yeah exactly it's like this fall from grace you can't help but uh be taken in by it so this video is called taking back my apology to dream i don't know i guess did they have some kind of beef yeah he had made he explains in this video that he had previously made a video calling him a cheater and then he made another video apologizing to dream and now this video is his retraction of his apology i love donkey yeah legend what the does clip mean is this a new feature yeah oh is this on every video uh i think so yeah huh dream cheap i think it's only for gaming shops oh for real oh yeah it's there competing with the twitch clips thing okay here we go well i can't believe i'm actually saying this but can you turn it up dream cheated you guys this is such a horrific day for the minecraft community for people that are out of the loop on the dream drama five months ago the famous speedrunner dream got caught cheating in a speed run so i made a video called minecraft speed on her dream busted for cheating drama but then dream put out a video proving and notice how proving is in quotation marks there he put out a video proving he didn't cheat so then the whole internet flipped to being back on dreamside so i had to make an apology video to dream otherwise my channel could have been cancelled well turns out that apology video was a huge waste of my time because dream really did cheat yep just yesterday dream admitted on twitter that he cheated in his speed run hey guys dream here i'm writing this 10 page document in my math at 4 am on my phone blah blah blah bunch of dumb turns into pictures i didn't have cheat codes on whoopsie daisy son of a now you guys know how big of a dream fan i am so to see this five months after defending this guy tirelessly from all the trolls and all the non-believers and then turns out he actually was cheating this whole time i i just i you know what i'm not a dream fan anymore yeah i said it i'm not a dream fan anymore i am so sick of this guy lying to his fans distorting the truth sending all of his fans on a witch hunt against me and then to top it all off he actually cheated this entire time and you know what game he cheated at yeah let that sink in dream cheated at minecraft a game designed for five-year-olds seriously all you do in this game is hit dirt with a pickaxe and eat chicken and dream here to cheat at that children can beat this game but dream the supposed master of minecraft he had to cheat at a game that children can beat it is absolutely pathetic dream how about this speedrun an actual video game that people speed run like mario 64. oh wait you actually have to be good at video games to speed run mario 64. never mind also there's no cheats for mario 64 so i guess you could never ever speed run that one here's a game for you to speed run dream elmo's letter adventure your fans would love this game oh wait you actually have to know the entire alphabet to speedrun this game dream you could speedrun pokemon but you'll probably die instead so there it is everybody the mods were right dream cheated and i'm gonna be honest here my apology video i was actually being sarcastic that entire time yep i knew he cheated all along dream you blew it you embarrassed yourself and you ruined minecraft for everyone i can no longer play minecraft because of you because you are such a horrible person every time i see the enderman all i can think about is when dream's career ended because he cheated so there it is everybody dream sucks we all hate dream now he is a he is terrible at video games and i am really hoping that i don't have to do another apology video after this because i would look really stupid now if i had to do another one yeah there was no twist it's usually irony he sucks he's a we don't like dream folks [Music] [Applause] [Music] foreign [Music]

Channel: H3 Podcast Highlights

Views: 138,622

Keywords: h3 podcast, podcast, h3h3, h3h3productions, ethan klein, ethan and hila, dream, minecraft, mc, cheats, cheating, math, luck, speed run, end, neather, ender, blaze rods, ender pearls, lucky, youtuber

Id: YW2m6t2H2Yw

Length: 31min 5sec (1865 seconds)

Published: Fri Jun 04 2021