ECL Europe East 4v4 - LoS vs Secret [Semi-Final]

a game one yeah and if we look at the map pool obviously there's five maps here that means that Arena was banned and also Budapest people don't want to play Budapest in team games and can you really blame them yeah it's there's a lot going on there I think then all teams will be confident in their abilities but there's more room for error and players do not like mistakes and it's interesting because I think secret banned Budapest because that was the one game that they lost to aftermath last weekend yeah and that game wasn't even close was it a.m. just destroyed them on Budapest so it makes sense players want to play to their strengths and we're gonna see a lot of strong players here before we start I just want to point out LS is in my opinion the most underrated team in terms of team game synergy in the tournament l OS they played together for a very long time and they have some players that secret will not want to face up against at full strength and they've got an impressive history right I mean they had an together a long time like you say I mean they won okay l OS didn't win but their players won the last Nations Cup and they've had consistent tournament resorts for years now so this is a really hype match and last time a secret played it was a 2-1 victory it was a hard-fought 2-1 victory against aftermath let's see what lol can bring to the table and maybe it will give us an idea about the power balance between L OS and aftermath as well yeah I'm excited dude let's go all right let's do it will tell tell robo to start the game already and get the four teens in the chat or team its faces that's literally how it works if i type 14 the game does actually start so yeah it's not I'm not making it up when I say that there's there's an AoE 14 --mode for the escape channel as well there are all of you escape subs out there get your hands on it get it well yeah you added a few other ones here too nice yeah favorite my favorite one is the salt the salt is the most creative probably the most underrated Age of Empires emote in the community that's really creative I like it the trade cart full of salt I mean what else are they training trading salt with each other as we go to game number one between L OS and secret here a best-of-five to find out who will move forward and face sy in the grand final of Europe East for V for this is the last day of Europe East we will be moving on to Africa next so relish it enjoy it and take these games and and enjoy every second of it because we're here on team Acropolis we've got team secret l OS two fantastic teams and we'll see what they can do what what damage can they inflict a t90 let you take it away and introduce the teams all right I'm gonna start off with team secret as Zack said I am t9y official if you don't know who I am and have any interest in checking out my content ad you can actually type exclamation mark casters Zack made it easy and also make sure to click zero empires there and leave him and follow for secret in the north we have doubts Delta's playing as the Berbers in the yellow we have Viper Vipers playing as the Mongols and the orange we have tatto tattoos playing as the Spanish and the other flank then is Jordan 23 playing as the Slavs yeah and I think they pretty much ran this no they didn't actually what did they I actually can't remember no they didn't last time they played a crop team Acropolis versus am yeah am had slabs and secretly something else I can't remember what they had but they're running slabs now but it does seem like this Spanish Mongol and Berber combination is extremely strong and it's gonna be down on the Berbers again here which we saw him playing last time I do like this we'll talk a bit more about the sibs in detail and how they're gonna synergize a detail after we've looked at the other team because to the east of the map in the green we have Miguel 40 Melo s he is playing as the Mayans here the pocket well that there isn't a pocket next to him nvidia is to GAO playing as the koomer it the blue we've got fire plague Aztecs and then in the gray we've got real playing as Teutons what is going on there's not a single mirror here anyway i think we're gonna see a sling i think we're gonna see a sling we saw it before who was it was it dope now that's long reads do you lol s first coachers yes one of the lol s players ended up swinging reott in the previous team Acropolis game we saw in the quarterfinals I only feel like Turks means there's going to be a sling here and if they are going to sling we'll probably see a lot of walls which is not easy to do on this map by the way got a wool from one side to the other yeah and where they've spawned they've actually spawned in the corners so the team walls are gonna be more like a little bit more diagonal which is awkward yeah it Turks the reason I think Turks is going to be a sling at least at the start is because they collect the gold faster so you can send that much more gold to an ally I mean I could be wrong on this but I just don't see any reason you would exclude some of the Civic's that secret have gone for unless you wanted to switch it up a little bit certainly for secret they would love to have Viper on full magnet side they'd love to have doubt on full camel Archer paladins then for tat oh and Jordan 23 questionable with slabs would probably infantry in siege which is the m4 them basically feed and siege basically it's you make Hobbs the helps died the siege might do some damage but the slab player might not be contributing too much in the late game there's always the possibility of adding bowyer if the other team is running to paladin service and making paladins but we're not gonna see that because we've got qamar turks and mayans so it's gonna be plumes it's probably gonna be elephants yeah and in that case actually Bowyer could still be pretty good but I think they'd probably prefer the Trojan ahab's and my concern here is the Turks I mean obviously the Turks link could be strong but they do have to eventually if the game goes long make something out of the Turk player and it's probably going to be bombard hours and portraits oh my god you know what it's gonna be Tristan it is gonna be shooting bombard towers full of technology necessary and they're going to be doing bombard cannonballs and they're just gonna wreck everything I'm cool right now I don't think we'll see that but if we see one time if they just do it once for the for the stream whatever please do various they were I've never seen it in the competitive match before yeah it's one of those little Easter eggs of the game so what is it again if you have tunes at Kurt's yeah a cheatin Bamba tower with 10 elite emissaries fires three cannibals yeah which is totally worth it that's a lot of damage yeah I don't think seeker would know how to deal with they're not good enough to do that honestly so we've talked about the late-game strengths of the teams there is early game potential here in Jordan 23 is about to hit fuel age so I assume for him it will be scouts a viper as well for secret will hit futile age so a more aggressive fuel age for the secret players and yeah it will be some outs for both them l OS look at the walling just crazy amount of walls for them they need to get this up before the scouts get through yep vipers gonna get a free Scout pick on the north side as well and to gaol lost a villager early on yeah that but yes L OS a lot of walling going on I think they need it they need to negate this futile damage that's gonna make this thing a little stronger as well if that's indeed what they're going for got to be careful not to over chop though look at the cows wood line on the front that's a potential for a hole and there is a hole so he's yeah actually met up right now and again has to be careful the problem with this of course is you're forfeiting the big wood you are not taking the center at the map where the thicker wood lines are you are just taking the small wood on on the Acropolis and that's fighting for now but at some point they have to move out and they're gonna do that with hopefully a stronger aggression in the castle age here I'm looking at the builds right now and I don't know if we'll see you sling it was my guess but there's only three villagers on gold for fire and his resources are looking set for fast castle in tonight's or camels so there's always potential for that sling put dude if they're not swinging here why would you not have Mongols or Berbers I I just don't understand it yet I I think they want to win the game and they want to run it fast I think that might be the the play and if then they've got the koomer perhaps to try and brute force the win in the early Imperial age with some with some elephants or the elephants I think right now though you know the Turks it's the market coming up more villages being added it does still look like this could be the sling here it does not look like it I would castle but it's it's kind of looking like a fast caster from the resource perspective but it is like yeah the Mart the markets gone up and yeah he slings Miguel okay so we were right on that and he's swinging to my employer it will be going full plumes he's just waiting for his market and blacksmiths to complete and he'll advance to Castle age so maybe kind of a double sling maybe you send resources to doe gal to get doe gal to the Imperial age but certainly first start with Miguel okay and one thing I'd like to point out right now is Secrets reaction to this they went for fetal aggression how much military did they make Viper made one Scout Jordan made two they exactly over-invest they didn't over commit and that was exactly the right thing to do however that does leave them a bit behind had they known that the opponent's would have gone for this strategy I don't think they would have gone for fuel age at all they could have just boomed to Castle eight so and maybe this strategy has as kind of worked out so far for the Brazilians here Viper's on stone doubts on stone doubts on his way to castle age the doubt will go for camel arteries white people go from magnet I and that once it gets going is going to be hard to stop because Downton Viper two of the very best with those units yeah Castle Age manga died though a lot of upgrades yeah sure but but Castle age but ever camel arches are awesome and they're always gonna be awesome and they're always going to be relevant in the game in the Imperial age as well look at look at what Miguel was building barracks okay so maybe he builds a castle fakes like he's going plumes then just clicks up to immediately and goes for Eagles which would counter the camel archers and the manga died man why he'd be maybe L OS are actually playing underwater 10-dimensional my young right now like maybe they III don't know I think build me a castle as a bait is probably a little bit but I mean for El Dorado there would be El Dorado of course I mean you're gonna build a castle because you can get El Dorado but you're right it would it would kind of serve the purpose of baiting them potentially into thinking he's going plumes wow I'm excited to see this me too I be - I think you know it might just catch them by surprise and of course because of these walls secret have no scouting information of the barracks Ritz a double sling readjust sent resources as well so Ria's sending resources to Miguel yeah fire sending resources to Miguel it's all on my boy this is the guy who messaged me earlier and said that he loved me so I'm kind of biased and then when you look at it right Tex it shoots tax and shootings tax faster gathering gold shooters cheaper farms yeah starts to make sense I would have liked to see you know I would still like to see the barbers instead of the kamar though because the Berbers could follow up with the cheapest table as well which would just I think catapult them even further ahead but you can also see the Camaros being the late-game powerhouse that yeah you get up and running then they might just be unstoppable so just to go through this in order Miguel is receiving sling from two of his allies he is going on the way to the Imperial age it'll be all him for his team and he'll go for the Eagles Joe Gow is just booming up so at some stage he'll try and get into the action but he's relying on his own economy right now and cannot afford to do so reott and fire are simply slinging and lots of lols coming up for l OS perhaps Zack this plays into the mindset that LS will have her secret throughout the day today are they not confident enough to play like a straight-up style ver secret it's possible late game is hard vs yeah right it's very very hard they're so coordinated they have great map presence and I think they need to win it before it gets to that stage otherwise you end up in a grind fest that you are probably going to lose and I think that they trying to take that approach right here keeping the Eagles back for now Miguel will start to send them out but what a secret at the moment you've got Viper making at the moment a boom doesn't have a castle we'll have one soon I don't think they know about this XR to interrupt you I just look at it look at the fog of war for secret they saw the castle going up they did not see any bearings so these Eagles could be a huge surprise they're expecting plumes look at tatsoi by the way double monastery expecting some kind of like Knight aggression or something I hate a single conquistador vipers not built a castle yet doubt only has eight camel archers and out sees it now and down is is probably saying oh man Miguel's elite Eagle warrior on the way doubt doesn't even have fletching yet they're not expecting this it doubt loses one camel Archer doesn't matter how many he has really against Italy Eagles with El Dorado if that does come in it's gonna be really hard to stop this for secret they have all their team booming up they have their own economy but they have to hold for quite a while now and here comes Miguel no walls it wasn't straight in of course it's doubt who's not wall at the front of his base it would be wouldn't it and if he finds that wood line on the left old man that is gonna be a lot of damage and he's running straight over there right now easily Eagles ready to rumble and let's see if we get hiking is he gonna find the wood line he's gonna find it it's gonna see it oh no doubt has to run away doesn't lose too many villas fortune dude yeah faster berber village bag i mean they only lost one bill so far i say that as viper loses two more this can snowball real quick but it's important that miguel does more damage it's only killed a few villagers two of his teammates are not in the game so he has to do more vipers actually added a few nights here I don't think he should make much more of them but then again how do you hold oh yeah I think you have maybe maybe doubt should go for nights because it's cheaper it's it's tough well I think that you know this is similar to what l OS did last time they played on this map they did do a goth sling and they'd send postcards and fights but it wasn't bad enough there I merely eagles are a little faster they're able to do a bit more damage but the damage has being there just yet but they were also buying time for the Khmer player who's on exactly's and can start following this up with some elephants a bit later on perhaps oh and there is a hole in Jordan 23's wall Miguel is here with Eagles Miguel is up against Knights though so he's gonna go back for the time being and El Dorado is on the way so now these Eagles get real tough to deal with now these Eagles can chew up Knights 100 HP equals soon for Miguel but you know you're making such a severe reaction from secret as well then now you've got the slab player making Knights you've got the Bongo player making Knights and eat well obviously the Spanish players making some conquistadors right now maybe that's not really the ideal situation for them they're not gonna want to be going down that path when they hit the imperial age and look at this I think Miguel did awesome he's taking that TC down very quickly Jordans coming over though it's Knights and there was some Congress to back it up so maybe the girls will take the fight here we'll see they work in with the hill bonus as well so that's good that was smart thinking from Miguel he reacted immediately to those nights coming in that that's great that's a good fight chewing up the Knights he's so much HP so much tankiness to these Eagles now a piss dude he's doing a great job now he's going back to doubt so he's keeping secret on their toes can get it no he can't oh he's in on the gold that's gonna have to fail again and even if he's not killing villages to uit he is forcing them to go idle and you know look at the map control for Ella West look at that wall that aggressive wall from fires that is a nice wall for this game really Wow walling the right side it might not be a game-winning move but it's gonna set them up exactly Doge al has the big boom dough cow cooks up to the Imperial aged Viper nice quick wanna keep the eagles out but the point the point is Zach that the Brazilians will have a much better position in late-game at this rate and it's not as though fire and reott can't get into the game they can it just they still need a little bit more time so l OS can start to trade earlier they'll have healthier economies and everywhere you look now Miguel has Eagles on top of the secret players oh man yes he does he's 56 kills 26 deaths and the key thing about this at that playing for position it's you know you're playing for position it's a touts Castle doubts cast all the T C's it's a doubt cast possibly horse it is he even tries to make you safe but it's a doubt castle Eagles are just attracted to it oh man more and more Eagles come out it's getting harder and harder l OS looking like they are on the path to victory right here took out nearly up to Imperial and use bat he's adding stables in the middle of the map you bet he's doing scale body armor and forging to get some damn elephants out on the field bouts gonna try and finish the castle no problem the 49 villagers 47 villagers first half of the villagers he has our idols so doubt has pretty much been canceled out of this game but Jordan hasn't had the best time either Jordan lost @tc in a batch of bills and this is before Joe Gow arrives so we were talking about it a m4 secret as doubts about to lose everything look at these cheese fees going down nichols was the bailout he's coming on create are struggling burst of Sling this is the second time yeah it's secret are struggling versus sling it might be there there one weak point but you know those few maps that you can do it on this is a mac correct which which l OS can pull this off because the team starting positions make this possible this is not possible on a Raider you can't do this on Arabia unless you're fully walled which you know probably not gonna happen too easily I I think it's over honestly doubt is at 28 villagers he he will not help with camel archers Viper he's not on its way to him you can't really help with manga died the conquistadors from Tatar nice against Eagles that's their best option but this is all before the elephants arrived and I just don't see an answer Santa's doing Inquisition right now all right then yeah that will get a castle up on the front but you know these guys just weren't prepared for this what's the best counter to an elite evil warrior rush walls yeah walls got a wall and they you have this scouted and like if someone's swinging you have to know what they're throwing at you they just assumed it was blooms if it was blooms they could have held it easier with the camel archers and the magnet I which is probably why they didn't wall because they would have had mobility but Eagles surprised them and it's not often you see the secret players doubt Viper Jordan and tatu surprised because he played this game for years but you know even if they repel this now which let's be honest they won't because there's a leap battle elephant is following up let's we set up before exactly so let's just finishing they've got a terrible amount of map now like the L o SG are in a great position they can start setting up trade they could they lock down the map they've got the wall off secret oh I'm gonna get a wall off secret aren't gonna be able to hold on past the elephant push though so I don't think that even matters at this point but yeah this is a o strategies can heal oh my god pull that off he almost wallet off man and now the elephants are coming through as well if Eiffel was so close with the quick wall they're trying desperately to keep the eagles out but the Eagles have found a way in and it's not going to stop there more elephants more eagles will flood through here the Eagles have landed as tatto and Jordan go up to the Imperial H now and you know it's incredibly impressive to be honest that these guys have been able to boom under this pressure it's something that just sets these guys apart from the likes of you or me you know it's something else but do cows soy miguel is such a threat look at this he'll take down this TC in about seven or eight hits and that just forces tatto to run to the hills' maybe instead of Inquisition he could have done supremacy but he's no Imperial agent yeah I mean Miguel is also splitting up his Eagles and he's going after small groups of villagers which is smart you don't want to go after just buildings the same is happening now with doge owl it is impressive just how they're still alive here because i thought for sure that would have been dead by but I think that a time will soon come because now trebuchet czar being mixed in from Doge al on the front and doubt might have a few castles up he might have gotten the one that was tonight earlier up and he'll lose them to the trebs and they have no answer to that well there's still a chance there's always a chance they're not down Gigi yet so they're hoping that looks tatto and Jordan get in they can start to turn this around but things are not looking good but you know it's secret they will continue fighting they will continue to hold their heads above water for now I just don't realistically see it happening when you've got these elephants which are starting to mass yes it's gonna be a little while before they're ready to make the big push but when it comes they will not be able to hold on against that not with elite conquistador not with some Camel archers they need upgrades they need something else they could just delay this like maybe if Jordan gets to full strength he is an imp now he could get to a champion and help I mean they'll take some time I think Viper should use his manga die to snipe the trebs yeah he has to slow the siege but yeah it's gonna be tough yeah there's a very small percentage of victory at this rate is Jordan loses villagers and another TC to Miguel in the south yeah absolutely and out now is in so much trouble as well he's a 43 pop maybe this is where doubt starts to sling him something back to his teammates who are him yeah so they can do something but even then what do they do we are starting to see some monks coming out but it won't be enough but Jordan has got how the Slovak helps the best herbs in the game once Regina is researched it something could hold on here now elite conquistador how do you feel about that because I feel like it's an expensive upgrade for a very little improvement well initially conquistadors was the right play before they knew what was going to happen conquistadors are great because you can raid your opponent's economy on the other side of the map so I think it's one of those cases where Tata went with conquistador and he has to stick with conquistador because going into Knights is just too difficult yeah hot transition right take back now yes I mean the Vipers about to hit the imperial H if he can get to elite manga die which will be tough because he's losing so many villagers with the elite conquistador with the Hobbes and champions of Jordan there's still a chance but Zack as we said it's not like this will be it for Brazil they're still pushing in and all the teammates rear and fire they could have answer the next agent and they could jump into the fights now absolutely I mean you look at this two gals nearly 200 part Miguel's nearly 200 part this is why you're talking and shoot some players start to transition to Castle as well and they can start contributing to the fight but doubt is down to 16 villagers 31 population he is not getting back into this game and they're just hoping that three of them bite potato and Jordan can hold on but it's interesting they've recognized that the main push is coming in in the north everything that Jordan makes is being focused on the north while he's himself kind of getting raided and just ignoring it for now ya need the Helms up here if they want to be able to push this back with boy are they getting overwhelmed yeah they have to kill Vipers castles Piper has one castle remaining after he loses this one here and I'm sorry he'll have two remaining but still it's not a great situation for him that is TCS or all Idol and he'll probably lose the villagers that are in them the neat magnetite now done we have chemistry on the way he's hoping that that might just allow them to to do something here Dowd has 15 Vilsack Castle it's it's pretty obvious just how well Miguel has done what the raids when he has 356 kills yeah he's not just fighting in the main fight here he's been raiding Jordan and tatto as you said and also doubt incredible stuff from Miguel here and I I don't see a way back for secret well I I think actually Jordan could have Gamboa all along could have been a good decision against the battle elephants and the Eagles but men the battle elephants they are so damned yeah it's 68 plus seven attack ten mainly on uh on the boyo isn't really gonna make much of a difference anyway yeah what it came down to and there's the G G what I came down to is that how quick the push was from a gallon dough gal it it did not allow the secret players to get to their strong Tech's tatto ideally would not be on conquistador he would be on paladin if I forgot his manga died but he didn't get all the upgrades he didn't have the resources to make more adult I mean he has very little left at this point and Jordan even him losing those villagers prevented him from getting to the champion getting to the bow yards he might one and yet again secret dies to the sling this one was more impressive though because not only did they die to the sling they didn't know it was going to be Eagle warriors they expected plumes and that's why this played out like this yeah I agree I think it's interesting because hello s executed this so well right I think comer when they've got resources probably the strongest Civ in the game I think it might've been you who said this as well recently they are absurdly good with those elephants and even with the ballista elephants and and scorpions if they wanted to go down that route as well yeah for this case elite battle elephants good enough but the fact that Miguel pushed so quickly gave them an opening for dugout to come in behind with the elephants it's like the perfect one-two it's a good combo and be wildfire Andrea just sitting at home singing the resources having a good time they were they were motivating hell I'm sure like you got this bro you got this what are you doing I just booming up I'll send you some more resources yeah I just I love how that played out man that's the first time I've seen that secret completely blindsided by something these are arguably the most experienced players in the game and they did not expect that if they expected it if they scouted it doubt could have gone nights as Berbers tatto with his conks that would have helped Jordan even could have gone Knights and I'm sure they would have had a different approach but that's game one man game two is coming up and she needs a response exactly looking at that mini-map like this this push is like spear through the heart of team secret here yeah it hurts that teal spear just like hams driving it deep but this is the only map I think that the l OS could pull a strat like this just became a lot location x' they I don't think they can pull this off on the map wait Scandinavia or cross there's too much to play for in the early game with the pawns and with the more open map that you find we'll take a quick look at the achievements here I don't this much to see because we've kind of seen it all on the overlay already but l OS winning Acropolis in Game one off to a strong start Miguel MVP for his team in the end there 402 kills and 237 losses but boy that was a lot of damage I I'm a little bit taken back by that in all honesty because initially when I saw the Sims I thought oh no what is LS doing it worked out man it worked out I think there's potential for sling in the on the next couple maps but definitely not a double swing that's far too risky yeah I agree I think it's too risky to do that on the map like Valley uh it's it's a little bit easier to wall up than some of the other maps actually the wood lines make it a little bit easy it's a closer team more but that's I still think a double sling is too risky on this one and you know this is funny right this is even after we nerfed sling we increase the sling attacks to 40% and we moved coinage to the Imperial agent remove banking so every hundred resources that the L OS team sent to that teammates they were only receiving sixty yeah a lot of people say you need to nerf sling you need to nerf sling honestly at this point it's a huge risk to do that you know if Miguel wouldn't have been able to kill the villagers he killed within the first five minutes there'd the game was over because all the secret players were fully booming up yeah so I really don't think think that sling is an issue in Age of Empires 2 I think that the nerf was appropriate however that's just a strategy choice and that was the risk that LLS took and it just happened to work out just like any other strategy yeah the thing with sling is it's not about nothing it or buffing it so that it's it's we core strong it's about balancing it right there are opportunities to sling it's always got to be a risk to do it because like everything in Age of Empires 2 it is risk versus reward you take a risk if it pays off you are rewarded if sling is a no brainer if sling is like okay well we just sling and we win or we have to sling otherwise we lose then that's not a risk versus reward situation and I think sling is in that place right now I think sling is balanced from my perspective yeah one more small thing to bring up before we get into the valley game just just talking about how secret tend to play their games viper is the most well known player in the community he's the best player in the community the guy never and won't be once he rarely goes for the high-risk high-reward strategies right he plays extremely safe he takes multiple good but small engagements that add up and that's kind of how secret play that's how the experienced players tend to play that's why you rarely see them slinging because they don't like that high-risk so I don't think high risk is something that you can go with in every game you definitely need to play more safe we'll see in Game two though how LLS played because as you said Zack I don't think that that double-sink potential is there so it will need to be a more standard game for LS exactly so let's find out yeah Paul T I know in the chat as we go into game number two Valley LMS vs. secrets and secret trail much to the surprise of many I'm sure my prediction was three to secret for this best-of-five by the way okay okay so I I think I did not expect Ellis to win team Acropolis so I could be surprised as well I liked that prediction though because that means you predict five games and oh yes I want to see so that's going to gave to hear secret versus l OS or LOL versus secret i should say we were to go left to right on the scoreboard LS leading one nil as we go into our second match on valley joining me once again c90 great to have you really enjoying today to enjoin these games and caste with you as well yeah I'm enjoying it as well man a secret probably didn't enjoy that first game I'm gonna start with them and Viper is the flank this time around he's playing as the Huns in the yellow his pocket is Tautou tattoo is playing as two Chinese the other pocket is doubt who is Indians pocket that will be extremely strong and last but not least we have Jordan 23 he is playing as Teutons on the flank Zac do you want to take it away with LLS then yep to the northeast in the teal we have to gal playing as the Malians on the flank pocket is Miguel in the green playing as the magaz second pocket is reott playing in the gray as the Indians and then down to the south it's fire in the blue playing as the Slavs so we are gonna see some asymmetrical sibs but we will see two Indian pockets here and I think that's gonna be important I I think that this is the ideal positions for the civilizations maybe you could say you'd prefer Magyars over Malians like the Magyars would be a better flank but I don't think there will be any complaints from the players here which is kind of refreshing because sometimes it can be awkward for Indians when they're flank and I kind of want to see them at full strength since both teams have them you know what I really like l OS is lineup and I like that positioning right now they really have any bad flank or pocket zips like no matter how and where they spawn I think they're gonna be happy with it but I think this is decent as well ma lien on the flank and slab on the flank I think we'll see some rush and whole mana arms action from fire in the south and maybe maybe something along those lines from - Gow in the north but secret have got a much more slow line up you know yeah not a fast save China not a fast Civ takes a little while for them to get going I think we could see some early aggression from l OS maybe even some forward strats with the pockets supporting and that could work out really well for them here well I do feel like Slavs could be awkward as the flank it's a strong soval around hello ever'one your first Huns and it's Piper at Slavs they'd ideally be going for a ranged unit as normally do and slabs don't get árboles later on so maybe this will be decided to focus on a fire and Viper very experienced versus each other former tyrant teammates so that will be fun to watch now we didn't see fire we did serie at last game really they just flung they are extremely good and I was actually surprised that Mikkel was the one receiving the sling I thought that the sling would would probably go to reott I Miguel did well with it though yeah and so in the south then I mean fire I don't like his map you know just looking at this now is his stone and gold is all pretty forward and which you know he's already started to wall it out with this house wall it's gonna be a little awkward if he loses forward ground but I from the other hand he's actually dropping down a barracks right now so I don't if he scouted that and recognized that or if he was planning to do this all along he actually doesn't have much scouting him fell off his opponent but he's already decided that a barracks is the way and two militia being queued out for him probably expecting the drush from fire even without scouting at this stage yeah and maybe that's the case I'm really curious to see if the pockets will go for futile age play because the maps a bit more open l OS is not walling up like they did the last game they will slowly do so but they will not be full walled by the time the the ten or eleven mark 11 minute mark hit sorry yeah well actually I just realized something else as well that's probably making an impact on this game and that is the fact that we have cows not sheep cows 150 food so it kind of makes this early drush aggression a little bit more viable and means that you're still going to have a lot of food as well to do futile aggression if you want to or if you can get ward up a comfortable fast castle off the bat so I think that's something to consider as players have a lot more food to play with in the early game before needing to transition to farms here yeah already there is a difference on that flank I pointed out fire and Viper fires on the way to fuel age a viper has just gone for this Dark Age rush so fires probably going for scouts I don't see him going to gold yet which would indicate archers a Viper he'll probably wall behind this and if he can fast castle into something like tap archers that could be strong but saying that I could be wrong actually I think he might go rushing to Archer so but fire here gonna have to bail on that wood line might lose a village or even but looks like VIPRE won't be able to catch her out and she will get back to the TC in time now it's a joke because neither player scouted each other VIPRE didn't see anything from fire before he started making the militia and fire didn't Scout the barracks either so actually quite poor scouting from both players and vipers so far doing a little damage with this rush but not finding too much just yet on the opposite flank Jordan 23 will be going with some archers and then it will be man-at-arms for dou gal into archers so we're kind of correct on what would happen on that flank yeah the men arms coming through now from two gal and the walls been stopped yeah it stops can he get through I don't think you know he's knocking yeah he will get through he won't be able to wall that up oh yeah he'll attack onto that villager and she is dead as well all this wood line quickly she has probably signaled her her allies there said hey you need to wall up I'm gonna die just say no unless you're on the way and luckily Jordan has has seen that I guess I'm not the most ideal situation also not the most ideal situation to be going for Scout says to ins or archers rather I can't speak apparently sorry it dick out gets killed out on the scout his men arms now coming through toward the berries and well you've got the double Rangers coming down for that for Jordan and like say it's not ideal is it and he doesn't actually have enough fills on gold to really go fill into archers if he can't add more in here yeah I'm scams as well he can add a couple of archers but will be limited there meanwhile the rush room viper does kill a villager in the south but he took him a while to find any damage and meanwhile ria has started his Scouts production as well and it seems to be okay for now I think he's lost his scout and one villager going straight into our Jordan Jordan the main and arms got into her didn't lose a villager but all of his villagers need to run away this is a sloppy start for both teams on the flanks vote both aggression and sloppiness I'd say combined luckily the man at arms will soon be picked off I know that they have the high pierce armor but Jordan does have the archers there but both both fire and Jordan on the opposite flanks are having a tough time I like Piper's position versus fire because he's been able to wall and he will have his own archers in scrum soon that's what that drudge did for him it bought him all that time yeah so now we have Jordan struggling to keep his archery ranges going as he only has four on gold at the moment and these men are arms just soaking up the damage and out they're not bothered they are just posing a threat keeping Jordan at home while Miguel is actually gonna go and hit the pocket the scouts from Miguel coming in toward doubt now doubt walked across the front but open at the back has got a Spearman we'll see if he can do any damage here but I don't oh whoa okay under the TC I don't think luckily he was able to split away from that he does have magyar scouts so dad needs to be careful speaking of scouts from Dell Dell has his Scouts at Miguel's base Miguel is outnumbered here and Miguel will almost lose a scout they're so bad from Delta Force well you know I just love magnets for scout rushes in 1v1 as well this spear gets a free extra attack your Scout Sofia it's perfect yeah especially when someone else against you is Scout rushing as well but if I've stabilized on the right the scouts from reott kept quite defensively for now while fire finds his footing but he will have archers out who will have fletching and I think they might make a push together although Viper might beat them to it as he's coming in with tatto right now tato quite a lot of stouts from him who that's a lot of scouts man that's a lot of scouts and fires coming forward he thinks he'll be just for his Viper okay luckily he sees his Scouts closing and he signals but he can't really run away from this without letting the army in so okay so here's the thing Maria is doing blood lines right now doing +1 defense I think that el OS if they can keep tyrant for sorry secret forward now you can get bloodlines and take a good fight but Tata is just on bloodlines as well so they're not really gonna have a window of opportunity to do that actually in the end yep playin it extremely safe both teams now the armies will patrol in the south and quick walls now from a girl back at his base this doubt showed up and out will not get any villa peaks and things have slowed down a little bit but they'll soon he up again once the archer numbers mass so at the moment l OS have eight kills and seven deaths so it's was the whole team it's been it's been a lot of action but there's not been a lot of a lot of kills and it's fairly even at the moment even if it did look a little bit good for secret in the north Jordan is losing archers axe sorry to interrupt you but this is important Jordan similar to fire ran forward without support from doubt yeah what is that for archers five archers ouch Jordans had a rocky start this game has failed failing on the wall that the loss of his army there in the early feudal age not so good for him and I liked that both flanks went for the archer Scout combo you know it's the strongest combo in the feudal age in the south now a fight coming through we've got tattos scouts and real scouts ATO has got the upgrade advantage on his Scouts the upgrade advantage for Viper is there for the archers as well but it looks like they're a little outnumbered actually if they can clean this up that would be good but they are working with a hill here as well secrets should win this sorry secret have the upgrade advantage but l OS can win this fight I think if they can bait them off this hill that is yeah they have more numbers INRI is soon going hit Castle age so a whiff that he could send out some camels as well I think Viper and tatu have gone too far here so they need to trade as effectively as possible and Viper and Tatsu they have outstanding micro so you know that's whether they kill right but Plus what defense comes in for it he'll run down the archers and that's a bit uncharacteristic tatto just leaving viper for dead there and dug a little space so doubt lost a villager on his wood line doubt doesn't have any momentum currently I say that as doubt it's a gala man there's there's so much going on here in this game what a game one thing I need to say is act before we continue with the castle age action it was impressive from rear and fire to track tattoo and Viper cuz tattoo and Viper they looped around fire on the flank and fire had a patrolling spearmen there and he spotted that if they didn't spot it Reid would have lost everything at home that's really important we got a little fight here with the scouts on the right side plateaus got the upgrade advantage here so we'll see if he can win it because I think he's outnumbered in that one it looks like it will actually go the way of rear bear on numbers but well I assume it well but at this point the scouts are gonna start to become a little bit useless anyway as the castle age comes in now quite a good victory for reott they're actually in fact he still has enough Scouts to do some solid damage with them as well so keep an eye on them they could certainly come into the play a little bit later on as Knights start to come out now from Miguel and we're gonna start seeing more greats coming through before the flank players as well soon yeah it's all about the Indian pockets now in my opinion magyar Knights to get the free attack or not for Indians if such a strong boom behind the camel push and doubt is really needed now to help Jordan cuz Jordan does not have army numbers he's also playing his tooten so he doesn't have the best crossbows and that's not an engagement he can take no no it's all I mean they might only be archers but these camels even +3 defense are gonna be a little bit cautious of running straight into that maybe he could be a little bit more bold but I think he just really doesn't want to risk losing any units here needs to get a solid number of camels up first he'll always throw away we go it's a slight lead but they are in the lead and here come those camels but this is this is quite good this is quite good for doubt yeah because Jordan has crossbow and dog al is halfway to castle age yeah the guy was quite far behind in that castle upgrade in fact he'll be the last one to get up by quite away he's going up with a lot of villagers so he should be should be fine but loosing your army now is not a good time to lose it because he's gonna have to start from scratch with that Archer production once he hits castle here you can see just how strong the Indian pockets are on both sides reiha and out or score leading they both have amazing upgrades and amazing numbers a viper research thumb ring so he knew he needed numbers he knew he needed firepower here to help out on this side I like that a lot because verse the Indian pocket every little bit helps tatto he is plus two defense on his Knights but still it's nice versus indian camels it's all in rio and doubt enough for the teams to really push this in castle age i feel and it's interesting on both flanks doing quite similar combinations here but III think you know in the south you've got indians and slabs versus Huns and chinese yeah you've got to kind of favor the indians and slabs there I think I mean maybe you know if I forget sup on good cavalry Archer numbers then that could really help them to pull through but what I don't like is the Slavs having to commit so heavily to crossbow here exactly what a make a transition away from this now whereas the hunt player can keep making CAV archers for well the rest of the game and eventually transition into nights and and piled in later on or viper loses a villager on his gold his gate is going to go down in no time but from was just ready to go forward he was not expecting this attack and he does not have gold at the moment Zack yeah completely pushed away and he's gold is flow that was well doesn't have gold so this is interesting as both groups of armies with Indians are having an advantage on both sides yes those Indian camels forcing the the engagements really and you can see that as well with doubt I mean it's interesting because obviously the mag is having to go nights here the the camel combo should have the advantage but they're outnumbered again and they're in very deep I'm a bit worried for for doubt and Jordan here in their position they are spotted they are being tracked and if they're outnumbered if they take a3 b2 then they are gonna lose that I think we should expect this he's not paying attention obviously loses to villagers but as you said he can send a few camels back of his own and I think Jordan and doubt will have to count on the next way to do damage they've gone in a bit too far there yes a lot of crossbows on hill fatigue hours well even upgrades on the crossbows and you could argue even upgrades on the night well and camels so they are gonna go into deep in there if they keep an eye on them and catch this out it's basically free kills for the L OS team sure they are using their army at the back of their base and not sending it forward to do damage but free kills are free kills and meaning lit up that's gonna be nice speaking of which we have three secret players about to engage reott and fire so a3 b2 coming viper has the cavalry she's getting all the upgrades for them now and I guess both teams kind of getting caught out here just that l OS have gotten caught out in the middle and they might just have to turn around and cut their losses here because they are being picked away aren't that as they run but this will be a massacre if they end up standing and fighting fire will actually job of stutter stepping and putting out there or getting out there and this is interesting the is six or seven crossbow coming in from this side distracting the whole army and actually allowing the main army to escape so it was worth sacrificing six or seven units then losing everything and I think made small update after Jordan lost his crossbows he began to sling down so he's slinging doubt resources that's why doubts on the way to imp and oh man we hold on I just I think fire is slinging food to read it as well so there's similar reactions for both teams yeah Imperial Age will be a lot faster for doubt here though rear may be able to produce more camels however he does have an extra eight sixteen camels on the field right now so l OS have a power spike right now and they need to use it if they get those Indian camels into the face of vipers CAV archers they're going to be in a great position but Imperial Age is coming for doubt and that is something that is going to turn this game around for secret well I say turn it around I mean they're already in a good position but it will definitely make it so very difficult for L OS to hold in that time period that doubt gets in the fires trying to sling gold and look at the gold on the front that he cannot collect look at this fight Viper has Magon else he has CAV archers there's Knights camels everything outside a position doubts on the left side with the camels but he's out of position and I think L o s probably traded quite well there but I teach Viper has so many crossbows and cab watches that he is still picking up this camel anyway and in the end l OS might be able to push through with the help of two GAO now sending crossbows back but doubt is imp and heavy camel is on the way when I first saw Dow was receiving sling and I had clicked up to him I I thought okay it's over secret will win lol s they had the correct response they started swinging reott that's the engagement they needed Zack they just needed to to chew down the numbers from secret for a couple minutes and wait for RIA to get to the imperial age because miguel is also on the way to imp as well so that that was good for them considering how awkward it can be for fire on the flank the KDS the secret looked reasonable though l OS however do take a quick score leap there which you know hate that they are trading a little better right now let's see if they can keep some kind of momentum going but I think it's gonna be hard because doubt Imperial camel will be on the way soon heavy camel is done and he's got a lot of them as well 33 heavy metals law and those crossbows are out in the open they are they're gonna die they're gonna put it bluntly there's really no way that fire can hold this there's no way that we can hold this in fact we should just run and we mentioned Chinese earlier how would Chinese play out well now tattoo will go choo canoe to canoe destroy camels in large numbers so I'm really liking how this was playing out for Secret in Game two can you destroy everything in large numbers to be honest as long as they don't get hit by a manga Nell they good but yeah they're losing the front of fires base right now and as we said earlier on the the gold at the front is all being denied the two stones unable to collect from them and he's mined out of gold at the back so fire is in a big pickle at the moment but on the north side we've got the gaol castle there Miguel with a lot of nights they will hold off against the camels for now and Miguel is also in he is gonna be going for the Cavalier so 2 l OS players in it only one at the moment before secret but tat so just hits him nails and they've just equalized that oh it's just so tough doubt already has Imperial camel Viper he's going to stick with the same composition when he hits him so there's no awkward transitional phase for him while fire is basically dying and Miguel he barely has any Knights now so I don't know if they can wait or sorry de gal I I don't know if doe gal can get too Cavalier in camel with Malians because by the time he gets there they'll be dead absolutely right my game stopped yeah mine as well your game stopped as well okay it looks like it's applause of some kind of it says waiting for other players right but can it pull us that's the strange one what's going on get an update from Robo but while we have the time to talk about it jeez what a play from Jordan to start swinging doubt smart strategy decision both teams thought of it Jordan he just recognized his crossbows wouldn't be very useful earlier and he's had quite a big slings at 101 villagers he's sending all those resources to doubt I don't know if there's any way back here I mean heavy cam was just completed for Rhea he doesn't have the resources for Imperial camel yeah Rhea that just he's got a hold with the heavy camels but fires losing so much to gal meanwhile I mean what is he gonna do he's going in now but what does he have at the moment what's his transition what's his play once he gets there I think he's considering Geppetto's cuz he has enough stone for another castle okay that may be the GG was called or something yeah let's let's figure that out but yeah the games has ended there we'll we'll figure out what's going on with that just a second but it's really clear to me that fire they're losing a huge amount and I'm wondering if l OS actually had a way back into that game i I think maybe they could but a secret looking super strong in this position now yeah in all honesty I don't know exactly what has happened here in all honesty I think the game was won already I think I mean Viper he's about to hit imp he'd upgrade to heavy CAV Archer doubt has Imperial camel I mean they're so far ahead fire wouldn't be able to survive so I'll let I don't know what conversations being had behind the scenes right now I'll let you figure it out but yeah no worries I do think that seeker we're gonna win that game pretty comfortably from this point forward yeah okay we can see on the overlay that secret did actually win that game as well so I think maybe the gee-gees were called right there yeah probably maybe we just called cut or didn't catch the last minute great game man great game it was just crazy in fuel age this watching there it's not easy to be that close and futile age there's so much that can go wrong you can lose villagers lose Scouts lose archers I really think the recognition from Jordan and doubt that Jordan couldn't contribute much on the field anyway and that he should sling one than this game because the decision was made by LLS to do the same and it was just too late yeah absolutely so game three Scandinavia will be coming up next I don't know why we have sy vs. V na on the scoreboard either figure that out we're using a new overlay system and it's sometimes a little bit temperamental but it looks like that's fixed it by refreshing so we're all good there Portuguese for that guys but let me let me just figure out what's going on real quick that's why I can talk to the viewers I mean I'm pretty certain I don't know exactly what's happening with the game guys but I'm pretty certain that game was over within the next minute GG would have likely been called was a great game though was a great game a game three which is coming up next will be Scandinavia and I'm even more excited for Scandinavia I think's candy and cross have given us the best game so far in this team game tournament or a team game I shouldn't say team game tournament it's a well technically it's a team game toward me but there's one be once - yeah because it for before yeah so in game one secret lose to the sling in Game two they were a lie on the sling at some point in Castle age the two in slabs pick was a bit weird like slabs they don't have the best win record honestly in this 4v4 event I think can one be once they're very strong but the lack of paladin possibly is an issue for them and just how slow they are in team games we didn't see any Teutonic Knights guys also in the first game we didn't see any tooten towers with Turk Janissaries inside them shooting cannonballs so absolutely so just a quick update apparently Buble is dropping Robbo and he can't stay connected so there's an issue if because he's hosting the game essentially but I think what we could do is we can I don't know what to do here really because we can try and resume it but we can't fast-forward through so we correctly we have to basically wait 40 minutes for that to go through to work to get to where we were we could go to an individual room and fast-forward it through but that yeah I don't know if that works well I think probably the best option is just move on to Game three right yep I think so too I mean I think it's better for a production of it and it may be if lol s were to come back or something that we'd need to go back in but yeah I think it's best to move on okey doke let me just I've just got to handle a couple of things here so give me a second that's cool man I'm gonna give mmm we just need to figure out who's gonna host because apparently I can't do it according to Robbo yeah I mean you could do it but then I'd be like a second or two behind yeah so alright so I don't have to West is available but if he is then he could join the game room and can fix that okay that works so thanks for bearing with us guys it's been a great day so far today as a reminder for those just getting here and whoever wins this best-of-five will play today verse sy in the final of this event seeing lots of new faces lots of people hyped in the chat so it's good to see chat active also seeing lots of friendly faces what's up guys mm-hmm yes lots of recognizable names in the chat there all right we're just gonna figure out who can can do this since I'm having some awesome what we could do is we could take a few minute break and put a small countdown up while we sort this out yeah sure absolutely because I I got to grab some water anyway okay all right beep so we'll be like two minutes real quick here just yeah that's might fix things up it was a second [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] oh hey guys just gonna shout out some more people here because we've got some more bits coming in Juby cube egami thank you for the two hundred bits necklace Alex for the sub B tax with the prime sub a bad rang with the sub and extinct sanity for a tier 3 sub there as well appreciate that very much guys Legolas Alex as well G's coming in a hundred dollar tip right there and he said I showed Tristan /t 90 some similar love I'm just happy you guys are out there doing this for us you're all awesome well thank you so much legless Alex we really appear they do that and just so you were aware that tip will be split among the admins and casters for their time and and you know it will be split out fairly between them all so we're just figuring out the best thing to do here because basically I'll run you down what happened robo drops from the game he's having an issue staying connected to verbally right now which meant that the game dropped for everyone as a result we cannot well we can resume it but we have to wait 40 minutes to get back to the same point so we have to recast it what I propose we do since the overlay showed you the result anyway and secret won that game anyway we will recast the game at another point maybe on individual channels people will recast it individually they can decide to fast-forward through or they can decide to play it from the start but as you guys know the result it is one one we will just go through to Game three rather than keeping you guys basically waiting for now basically whatever we do people aren't going to be happy with what we're doing and we're deciding to take this route because we believe it's the best thing to do right now yeah there's not much that we can do about it trust me trust me we did not want this to happen it happened we'll move forward and we'll continue casting these amazing games right basically yes but we can obviously get the game recast on individual channels at another time that is no problem yeah alright man well it is now 1 2 1 the secret ties it up and we are going into Game three shortly which will be Scandinavia absolutely we're gonna be going to Scandinavia next and it's obviously all still to play for at 1-1 for both teams we can tell only to start the game already and we can go in I do not control the overlays guys the overlays are not controlled by me they're controlled by the admins so it's not it's if something happens like this then it this is just unfortunate right we don't want this to happen Zack do you need to be sorry to interrupt you need to be a spec for they always find ok it's all good yeah so obviously we're doing the best we can here thank you for your patience and we're now going into game 3 between L OS and team secret joining me again t90 it's shaping up to be a good series of games it's one one neither team getting themselves a significant advantage already and it's best of 5 so it's very even it's all to play for and Scandinavia has been one of the best Maps we've seen in this map pool in my opinion I really enjoyed Scandinavia last time we saw it between sy and Vietnam legends it was a good one and here we have a lesson secret and I will start with secret and I'll let you introduce l OS Zack at the flank yet again for secret on the right hand side is viper he's playing as the mayans and his pocket in the red is jordan 23 jordan 23 is playing as the goths we have doubts this is the second time I've seen doubt with a weird protruding piece of land on Scandinavia anyway he's playing as the Byzantines as pocket and then his flank is tatto who is playing as the Burmese yes absolutely and these guys are in a good position to control the whole right side of the map the team sort of split from Southwest to Northeast and that means that both teams will have their own back water on the left side l OS fire in the blue playing as the BRR means on the flank pocket reott in the gray playing as the goths second pocket Miguel in the green playing as the Huns and then to the north in the teal we have to gout playing as the Berbers on the flank and you know what t90 I am amazed that we are all here today watching a 20 year old game and with 20 years a technological advancement this game is still the same game it was in 1999 pretty much so yeah yeah they happen and tech problems will always happen until well hopefully maybe de fixes some of these issues but in the end we're all still here and we're here for some great games today yeah and to those watching this on youtube and twitch thank you guys for being here seriously Zach and I have been doing this for years we never expected that this would be a possibility and we're loving every minute of it right the level of play is higher than ever as well I should point that out like 20 years ago that the level of play no one would be watching that nowadays the level player is higher than ever excited to see how the scan evap plays out for those that haven't seen scandi before the water element is always important that both teams they have water to the back of them we saw sneak docs last time around with the sy Vietnam game I don't know if that potential is all that great this time around yeah well we'll see if a sneak Doc can be pulled off they have to sneak past enemy lines and we're ready we're seeing a bit of a wall off from fire on the left side but look at that tat Oh sneaky throat I wonder if I saw a sneaking through yeah saw it because he walked over the foundation so exactly visible for a few seconds that wears his Scout at his Scout is actually accompanying his villager to the edge there so if there is there is a wolf on the way but there's only one so he should be okay yeah tattos Ville will survive however he could be spotted huh maybe maybe but he's through and fire things say I'm safe I ward it off oh yeah nice and early there's no way he's gonna send a villager through he should be ok and if he gets it up in the corner they might not see it they might patrol the shoreline though so you never know meanwhile they sneak from ello is there anything going on I don't see anything yeah I don't see it I do see that Vipers Eagle has been disrupting Doge a little bit on the flank yeah but I actually do get a really bad start you see that house next to his TC oh that's not a good house why why did he build that because he was housed a 50 modulation he was housed heavily and he had to rush that house he did loom in the mean time and basically he's blocked his farms there so here we might delete that and rebuild it later on but not a good start for the gal here so far a pretty solid start for secret then because tato will have that sneak doc fire hasn't even scouted this and he won't stop it if tato goes for a faster fuel this could be huge he could kill all of fires fish and he could kill Reed's fish he could go for everyone's fish depending on how many fire galleys he can create and for secret now I think you have to rely on tattoo an early fuel age and then the others if they wall up they might be able to boom a little bit you know for sure and you know let's just take a quick brief look at the sips here out we do have Mayans Byzantines Goths and Aran by I want to say for her Burmese it's a good combo obviously the key difference here is that they're running Byzantines and Mayans and the other team is running L OS are running Huns and Berbers Byzantine fast imp is something to be afraid of and I think yeah we could see that coming through to work out really well for the secret team here the wolof coming up for viper it will be denied by the drush intamin at arms for doge al the viper sends one villager back he sends another villager in can viper wall this off because the GAO's looking to go aggressive viper once none of it he's still in the Dark Age cupola gates and he'll do it but it's quite a forward wall isn't it from from secret really he could have walled back here but he wants to get the gold he wants the stone and he is closing himself up towards his teammate Jordan who right now is also pretty much closed up to doubt there's actually a hole but I think they'll figure that out sooner or later and was chatters closed off they'll happen all up but the militia is still there Viper's villager a little bit far from safety but jourdan's scout is nearby so it should be fine yeah yeah the wolf is there as well this morning wolf attack the militia there was a villager surely yeah of course it is I'm always a fan of that no offense Viper so vipers villager will probably die he could how stricken actually a Jordan could help it one more come on man he's trying to do it but he doesn't get the Palisades he's probably like flaming Jordan bow like why did you block me man I shoulda blocked the wolf man losses flaming fire is that was unintentional fires flaming on water he's all those fishing ships will be lost Reed's fishing ships could be lost he didn't know tattoo a docked here oh my god doctor just ran right past his fish no way he did light him site on these things isn't exactly great is it and he's running past Reed's away oh my god bye now okay what's why would Jordan not go along the shoreline rather than going out yeah I mean yeah tattoo made a mistake there but he'll still carry it out real was going perfect yeah yeah red orange same thing but okay now tattoo with the next batch it catches fire off-guard it's still very good very very good yeah see but it could have killed them all by now I think meanwhile Vipers under pressure dude I was pushing down on him with this watchtower and these manner arms and I think this is the way to play versus the Viper he definitely doesn't like being pressed this hard and you know he's in wall mode right now he's in defense mode dig out can he really do enough damage though I'll tell you one thing he's compromising the team wall but yeah can he do enough damage with this aggression I'm not sure sure another Watchtower comes up Viper not losing too much just yet only one villager down and we saw that die to the wolf earlier right now Viper has a lot of experience with fat slob so he should be able to wall this up himself but I don't know Miguel is here and although there's a hole there there's a hole this always all up would be disappointed and like who's thinking about placing a tower has to run away from this and Viper the best player on team secret is just falling apart and the quick wall the quick gate from Nogales so sick the gates man now like since we got rotatable gates thanks here's a patch they've seen so much use and so much good use as well Vipers being doubled this three village is going down in the wood line there's another tower going up on the stone and if you what did it one if you want to do one playing versus the biomes is tonight the stone yeah op the leaving getting a castle and oh my god vipers hemorrhaging units right now um be leave above what a start for LS now honestly while viper has fallen way behind I think as a team secret are still a little bit stronger and that's because of tattoes sneak doc look at the fishing ship difference on the overlay doubt has 14 fishing ships Viper still has a and Jordan has nine that is not the case for L OS and that's gonna hurt them absolutely and right now I mean the secret team have a good score lead as well and that score is the biggest indicator what have you seen ah I just saw that doubt set a hundred would the Vipers so he could build a lumber camp oh wow and what are you doing that was trying to just change the overlay a little bit bit on dark to make it easier to see but man look at Vipers eco it's a mess those villagers running up to the top there and wow it's it's not efficient at all and thanks say this is compromising the team war but Jordan is here coming through with some Knights right now and that should be enough to at least kill these villagers and get some revenge on to do Gao if the Gao doesn't get a quick wall off but I don't think you will he's actually gonna have to wonder if those bills will stay alive he's masked stonewalling now and oh wow Jordan Jordan almost got through the wall from Doge al dare that diagonal wall he killed two villagers he could have gone through I think if he wanted to but may I don't know maybe not paying attention there enough but in the end it looks like the Gauss villages will be cleaned up and took out he's got a reasonable village account but if he loses these four villagers in this tower or three villages in this tower it's not gonna be good actually he's gonna be on the lowest village account in the game at that point if Jordan sees this gap and Miguel's base next to the wood line that could be trouble for Miguel Jordan is just attacking the palisade wall but you see that gap between the wood line yeah I see it all those villagers some of them are weak as well all those villagers could go down yes I think you'll find it though oh maybe he will actually because Miguel is actually stone walling Jordan here so yeah Jordans gonna end up going oh there's all there there is literally always a hole Miguel's losing villages whichever way you slice it those three villagers are dead gone to the wood line gone to the gate doesn't matter the village is dying apart now after a very strong start yes tato here's 25 kills and 10 deaths on water he's winning the water or at least he's killed most of the fish and without locales taking losses and mikela taking losses he's killed every fish on the other side of the map but meanwhile I'll crowd up you've got a big fish boom going on for doubt and it's actually just doubt and tatto who are making a lot of fish vipers got some as well but I didn't just eat Ottoman Jordan Tasha doesn't have any fish on their site but he could never mind he can't fish the other side he's not one of the water convincingly enough over there to do that and immediately after those losses Dougal starts to swing Miguel so just like in Game one I'm sure this wasn't planned at this time around but Miguel is receiving sling and he needs to get some Knights going he is hunts it's a great civilization to sling but I think he needs to do some damage because secret have such a big fish boom now and Viper has stabilized and he'll be in Castle age has his stone back and kogo boomed archers like this push from Jordan as well actually you know he's coming forward with Rams he built he's building a monastery on the front as well though it was delayed he must have build there and I he's ramp up the pressure here he's also in on the goal yeah man it's so much damage being done there but look at fire on the other side bringing the heat man he was in through one layer of stone walls I assume with petard x' there he has to Aaron by a tattoo still in feudal so these stone walls they'll have all that much HP at tato who who's been doing a great job on water he doesn't have anything on land and he's falling apart here man you know rotatable gates has completely changed how players defend themselves they they they build the labyrinth every time and it works quite well but not well enough for tatto as look at this he's gonna lose another bunch of villagers here as they run back toward the TC his errand boy might be incredibly inaccurate but at close range they will hit everything and these villagers are dying so viper off to a rough start and then you know starts to stabilize building the castle now but now it's tattos turn he's losing villagers and that equals his things I think tat oh he's done enough on water man but he's dead on land and doubt his full boom attack - oh he is so dead I introduced it as and fire is playing as the errand boy right now try and do some return damage but it's gonna be tough right Miguel's getting the sling he's gonna be able to match Jordan on production and well Vipers only just started plumed archers so they're not gonna have a big impact for a while yet yeah I really think Viper will be needed either with Jordan or with doubt doubt has been forcing a crossbow which you can do as Byzantines but I don't think he was planning on doing it so early so Vipers plumes will mean the mobility of the plumes the range of the plumes will be greatly appreciated against the air and by I think that blessed is sorry go crossbow into our blast is fine you know it's getting a quick power spike especially with the fast imp that they get but it's gonna slow down a little bit it's probably gonna take away from their game plan a little bit here but yeah another casts were dropped from fire on the left side he's gonna keep pushing this advantage onto Jordan sorry hunter tatto I don't like all I get Jordan today at this point at this point if says Jordan he means tat oh yeah just swap them over I don't know what's going on it's like iterative gone wrong in my head and I can't shake it but yeah we're seeing that down in the south looking pretty bad I don't think fires gonna be too much damage now to doubt doubt does have enough crossbow up and you know these aren't by their strong but again it's a group across but they're not gonna perform too well insulin a might on the right side doe Cal building two towers this is right before Miguel gets all of his upgrades on his nights he does have more than Jordan though and there's not a lot of whom darter survivors so I think yes Miguel will be old Falls will they I mean there's monks though as well so they've got to be careful not to give any donors over to Jordan here but the upgrades food for Miguel gonna come through and that should be enough to basically allow them this victory or at least to hold this gold mine no the cow gets the tower as well which is nice yeah I mean it's actually quite close here I think conversions can help the healing from the monk can help Piper has plumes with bodkin and I thought Miguel would do a little bit more when receiving a sling this is good pressure from Viper and Jordan yeah it is you know the gal is fighting to be one here but Vipers continuing to reinforce with more plumes he will clean up the nights from Jordan and that means the plumes will probably have to run away now as they are caught in the open eye Miguel made good of that situation there and defended his teammate nicely to go is is safe for now and that's what matters for LS basically a 3 B 3 at the moment because tat oh he's out of the game and Dachau is slinging wouldn't surprise me to see tattoo start swinging now because I don't see him getting back in the game anytime soon doubt Andrea will be in the Imperial Age doubts about the hit though and that Byzantine power spike as you said Zack it could work out for him to maybe push back the castle from fire of the castles from fire with trebuchet meanwhile from fire we also have a raid of iron by into the heart of Jordan space right now and I do mean Jordan this time as your Jordan to put all of those villages in the TCS but I mean it's a lot of damage actually no villagers but on a lot of eco damage they're just forcing them idle and not losing a single Eren by for it that's a good trade but yeah doubt will be mpany you have are blessed to have castles and trap production if I might start to lose some ground here and I'm worried for fire in this situation doubt is going for archers Viper is going for archers reott is about to hit him as gods and fire just lost most of his air by but if friut spams HUS girls he destroys Viper and he destroys doubt yeah this is really good actually because doubt now making these traps he's gonna be stalled by these castles and if fire loses the castles okay you can't make our as many errand by but it's kind of okay I mean the bird yeah I can always switch to other stuff but the goths now coming through with some her scars it's gonna buy him enough time to get the her skulls up and actually probably push these are blast back which I can't seem to find oh no there they are they're in Jordan space right now and just sitting there and fire as you said will repair the castle just to buy himself that time and Miguel hooks up to the Imperial age as well and Jordan is just ahead of him Jordan is also Goths for secret so he could go for HUS Carlsen helps to but what a game we have here both tatto and ogle on the backfoot took some big losses after doing damage one on land one on water I do boss the Goths is gonna work better for hello s here shortly yeah at least at first right yeah for now yeah because you've got plumes you've got herbs and then the other goth player comes into the game and then what I mean he'll start making some huh scars and some helps but you work also gonna then have cavalier coming up for Miguel so he doesn't want to make too many her scars I I think lol in an okay position actually right now a little bit more mobility for them as well yeah because they'll have they'll have the Paladin they'll have the husk RL they'll have the air and by whereas if Vipers really the only one with mobility for his team at the moment until Jordan of course Pam's his infantry and we also now have to go going up to the castle age as well and that means that he's not gonna be sitting slinging for ages he will eventually get up and start making some Camel archers of his own and I I think the camel archers here you know that they are the unique it's a unique Civ 4l OS I think they're gonna make them work really well because they have the camera sure is is extremely strong right now it just matter if dough gal can get to that stage yeah a viper has a huge advantage every gal on that side so dough cal will need some help from Miguel huh skulls and they're gonna go looks like they're going straight for doubt or they're going straight down the middle here doubts got a lot of our Blessed out here and these scars are bearing down on them already we'll see what they can do fully ungraded on the defense already and look at that down to about half health after taking a huge amount of damage from doubt or excuse about errors from doubt and the doubt just has to run back but that's a frat coming out he's actually done any cataphract Oh baby I didn't think we'd see it but I think tato is slinging some resources to doubt and doubt can afford it and one be once you rarely see Lee cataphract because the cost button teen games it's possible and that changes things that just changed things it's a beauty you know I didn't think we'd see it either to be honest and it's kind of a niche unit in the sense that it's gonna do great versus the Goths but it's not gonna perform so great versus Aaron by and it's not gonna perform so great against paladin so he's invested quite a lot into that and as a result it might have slowed down they got player a little bit as well if those resources did come from Jordan here and Jordans now being pushed by cavalier so I still think the L OS if they group up here and they pushes three with cavalier Aaron by and Alito scars I don't think that the secret team have some anything's to deal with that well all that really needs to do is hold his side and he's doing well because Vipers pushing with Jordan against ogle so it's it's a true b1 yeah we have halberdiers as well it was a really smart swing I thought that we would see husk girls from Jordan he went right into help so they talked about this and it will be Hobbs first paladin Plus plumed archers once Piper arrives but Rio is there to help Zach and HUS girls can kill the halberdiers what a game we have here this is awesome yeah you know I'm looking right now at Jordans economy and while there's Cavalera in and and what what is actually gonna deal with the cavalier right now the Huskers are firing look at fire man also getting erect he's losing TCS is losing villagers honestly every every economy is getting raided now even doubt is getting hit by us girls so what a base race that we've got going on here as well you know like purple doubt pushing into fire while his neighbor is getting absolutely wrecked back at home these guys doing a lot of eco damage it's hard to really say who's done the most here as far as the scores are concerned well secrets still have the lead but no white clothes but look it reads for himand outside doubt has cataphract sure but it'll soon be paladin elite HUS girls and Aran by I I think that I might be under estimating the strength of the cataracts but I think that that will lose his entire army here maybe maybe there is a lot of Units coming over yeah the Micra wasn't actually all that good from el OS and out might actually get that castle up which is unbelievable paladin's now coming through though and they're gonna try and turn this around with paladin yeah west viper went west where are the plumes right now they were in a base they were in down the base yeah they were currently at Jordan right now yeah so yeah at the moment it's kind of doubt versus the world it feels on this left side yeah if I did a great job he was picking off the Cavalier just out didn't have the mobility really oh man what an engagement man paladin's cataracts halberdiers now joining from Jordan the air and by they don't have the range and every time fire tries to run in he gets chewed up Wow and the cacif racks have done quite well you know I wonder if he's got logística because he's perfuse done really well in that engagement there he's done a hell of a job 190 kills 115 gets it's been all to hell in imperial now I think yeah the issue Darren by like you say they can't just run in against the other left yeah her skulls never made it to the back lines they never actually got to hit the are blast here but this is still a win for l OS they'll deny the castle on the front and tatto meanwhile he's rebou mning back into the game now so you know he was really in a bad position earlier but he's now Castle he's now got tea speeds up and he'll be entering the phrase sooner or later but is it gonna be too late because these guys have got a very scary army of paladins and Ali Aran by now turning their attention toward doubt once again yeah and it's just full defense now for a secret not the first time we've said that in this series they really need to be careful the Palin's running from Miguel and he could pick off the trade that's starting to be added by both teams they're both doing that there's not better than killing fledgling trade it really feels good when you kill those trade cars people would even make the first journey yeah oh yes that's value you know though gals also rebou mning he's reboot better than tatto has he has more villagers and he has a castle so he could soon join the flights with those heavy or not heavy camels sorry a camel archers and you know what as well the the actual village accounts across the board looking better for L OS right now and a secret did take quite a bit of raiding damage now these casts Africa it's interesting because they are so expensive and they won't win versus the paladin of course the Agathe player is still making huzzah huzzah that not pasar the skull fighting them against the archers and yeah versus these these cataphract and the husk girls are so cheap as well it's okay to lose a few right for sure you rarely have a positive KD with gods and doubt has just been chasing the paladins in the trade Mikkel killed about a dozen trade carts so both teams adding trade kal and secret just trying to secure their base they can't seem to do so look at Miguel's KD as well he is doing so much work for his team right now and you know I think Miguel is such an underrated player and maybe it's not my son but I think he's genuinely so valuable to the teams that he plays on back in nature Joker here was always doing an amazing games he was always leading his team and he's doing it here as well not only in this game but in the Acropolis game that we saw what a player man he's making it making the damage right now and he says he's not good as well I talked to him about I tell him he's very good he's like now I'm not good this guy's playing out of his mind and now doubt is loosen those castles he built earlier to the trips from fire and fire has elite walleye as they follow them and look at viper coming over here with the plumes he's on the other side of the map and all Imperial he's been chasing for his team he hasn't done anything authentically yeah and I think this actually opens up an opportunity for them to do damage on the right side now because the guy was about to go in and once the gal gets in you the camel arches are coming out and vipers got his army on the other side of the world at the moment yes is looking bad for secret it is looking really bad reott he's still spamming the huskar's towards towards Vipers plumes and 'dallas loosing the castles which he needs to kill those husk girls i need you need two castles to create the gas tax which Prospero's yeah but the only Airin by here how are they performing versus the pulling dar chur i can't help but feel the flu March is gonna trade more cost-effectively but they may end up losing the Baths light it's hard to say right I I think that having elite Husker land air body is better than having plumes and cataracts though definite as long as the elite Huss girls are in front this is a good fight for LS and they continue to push in they cannot be stopped here tell you though the gates from tats are actually starting to trip them up a little bit making it kind of tricky to get in here and find a good angle on to this army yeah it's kind of blocking maybe they should try and take the gates down with the traps and it will do that but these guys right here even if they just hold right now against Piper the north side is gonna start getting dicey because look at this miguel raiding with paladins up in the north vipers having to bring the villagers back to the tee seized now we've got elite camel archers from de Gouw starting to back up the paladins and el oso looking unstoppable at the moment yeah I'm not seeing one good statistic for them I'm not seeing one good position for them at Otto's old base will soon be destroyed he still has villagers here he's just rebou m-- trying to go elephants but he can't afford to get to elite battle elephant man was feeling in the world when you lose if you die in feudal Yuri boom and justice you get to him you get rekt again that's very relatable I know do you know it's like they knock you to your knees you get back to your feet and as soon as you stood up you get slammed into the ground again let's stay down well we're about to be witnesses of that Miguel and dugout arrived with their large armies oh and it is not something that viper or doubt can deal with and the trade is right there I think this is the GG push stack it is I mean this is an unstoppable quotient Lee camel archers only Airin by paladins of the frontlines and her skulls mixed in that is one heck of a combo right there and these guys have the tankiness they have the firepower and well I mean seeker I just gonna crumble under that and if this era by or better still the camel archers make it to the trade line well you can say goodbye to the trade that's all going down yeah and on the front of Jordan space he's still losing buildings that when you get a moment look at Vipers oh not Viper I'm sorry look at Jordan and gouts economy there's just dead bodies everywhere from a husk or earlier yeah and the trades going down now as well and would not surprise me to see secret call the GG soon and tatto too late with the elite battle elephants they are fighters I mean they do usually fight till the last minute but looking at it from our perspective right now it really does look like it's over for them the scores are still now they're not that close there's about a suitcase score difference on average and you know tatter losing too much right now I'm wondering what they're thinking at the moment what's what's going through their minds as they think okay how do we bring this back because if they thought they if it was over they call gg right yeah well they want they want to see how the elephants will do the tatto cancel we no no no he has a leaf bad elephant completed now but the elephants are too slow the camel archers an Arab I could just run away from it and still pick off the trade and kill elephants anyway yeah and Jordans getting destroyed right yes see dreams are on him Miguel again with paladins grouped around Vipers plumes he's he's been everywhere oh the trade rage in the back of Jordans bases well killing everything and that's when they realize it is done the pennies dropped and secret have cooled GG LOL take Game one secret take Game two an l OS strike back winning in Game three what a series man and what a game honestly you know tattos sneak doc i thought was going to be the game-winning move he killed 25 fishing ships I believe and I thought the sacrifice was worth it but fire came back he built the castles he pushed through tattoes walls he killed him and while doge al was pressured early on as well doh cow was able to get back into the game after the swing and I think that's what it came down to just two flanks what a game and I I didn't know how to call that one throughout I thought secret had the lead LLS had the lead it went back and forth and that's been the best game of the series yeah that was a really good game from what we've seen so far and seriously Scandinavia is just time and time again delivered amazing games and what I've really enjoyed about these series so far is that we haven't had complete mirrors game number one both teams had completely different sibs game two there was a bit more mirrored but two sips were different and in Game three two sips were different as well for both teams and it just goes to show that you know teams going into this with the strategy with a game plan and they're executing it and L OS are making it work yeah I think it all came down to Viper not being able to get plumes early because plumes do be camel archers it was dou gala as Berbers and Viper as Mayans but that early pressure on Viper really slowed down his push so when Viper finally got the plumes where were they they were in his allies base just patrolling around trying to clean up he was playing the jet team janitor when he needed to be spearheading the attack absolutely you definitely want the Mayan player to be the you know we saw it in the last series with a high vs VNA the Mayan player is the guy who goes forward puts those castles in a strong position and then fortifies only leads the charge but because of that early aggression from DeGale which i think was so instrumental in that game setting viper back by quite away delaying him to the castle age delaying his plumes making it much harder for secret to find their footing across the map so well-played tlos a 3-1 sorry a 2-1 lead for them right now and we're gonna be going into game number 4 in just a few moments we'll take a quick one-minute break here if that's okay with you and we'll come back out and go into Game four in just a sec can I say one thing before we take the break go ahead Miguel had 640 kills and 231 deaths he is an insane player what a beast yeah man that is a just an insane KD and it's fair to say that Miguel there played out of his mind looks like a scoreboard maybe broken let me see if we can fix that it's fine that's fine on it yeah we got it we got it alright we'll be back in a minute guys with the fourth game should take a very short break here we'll be right back okay so baltic coming up next and it's worth noting right now that this is actually match point if lol s winters then they're actually gonna beat secret 3-1 and secret will end up knocked out and finishing in joint third place here interesting situation it was one nil sister to ello s one one two one two l OS can secret bounce back they have to if they want the chance to make it to the finals here it's also worth noting that in big tournaments the home maps were frequently water maps for secret players especially in one view once viper when he had the option he would not choose arabia would not choose a lands map he would always choose islands or some water map now this was back in the aoc days right when the meta was different i still think that you have to give the edge to the secret players when it comes to water they're really good well who is one of the best water players in the world it's fire yeah he's that's true as well he's the master of islands right but yeah the metagame is definitely in a different place right now to the good old days when it was just galleys galleys and pace and more galleys what a surprise but nowadays yeah things are a little different and well we'll see what they can do obviously baltic is one of those maps where water comes first but land aggression land sort of attempts can actually swing the game can win the game and we did see that in it was finland last week it was it who were they against it was that's why actually well that's why yeah that's why they played baltic there the finland tried something on the land they actually did a pretty good job but that game I think was almost won on the land rather than the water yeah I can agree with that for sure I think if Italians play there would be a lot of focus on the italians player the italians and Vikings player because Italians can not only fight on water well but if they get that water advantage like we saw from yo earlier in the earlier set they can transport condos and that's probably the easiest thing to transport into because it's strong and you get the tech for free yes actually made a video about condos and it is crazy just how good that unit is when you put it into context of the Italian sieve yeah I know I refer to it as canned lightning you know you get cheaper aged ups you get to the next stage faster you drop down a barracks you don't need any text you just go and they are so good at just landing and raiding without any chance for your opponents to even scout it or react to it yep so game should be beginning in a few seconds yes 14 s in the jet one more thing I want to point out guys l OS as I said is an underrated clan many people might know them many people might not they deserved the wins for a secret secret did not really make mistakes it was just that LS outplayed them there's a very big difference do not confuse the two all people always make that mistake though it's it's the problem though like with any big sports team right around Madrid loses it's not the other team outplayed Real Madrid Madrid had a bad day exactly so with secret when secret loses I'm just trying to get people to give credit to the people that beat them because more often than not it is that they were actually outplayed but here we are Zack take it away for sure we're into Game four l OS versus secret here match point if l OS take this they will go to the grand finals to face sy secret needs to bounce back here and get themselves a victory if they want to make it to the final otherwise they will be knocked out but man oh man I mean we're on Baltic right now normally I'd start by introducing the players talking about that but look at this map that this lake yeah what is going on what what is that normally I have Dave and and he can tell you right away what it looks like we had a camel lake a few days ago I'm not creative enough well I don't know if you're creative enough to say what that is I had it's a ghastly by the way but I actually had a a game of the day where doubt actually had an island that was shaped like a fish and I'm not even kidding it actually was a fish it was welding Baltic has been delivering some interesting map generations recently I'll start with secret here and then we could talk about the sigils I really want to talk about the the Vikings Italians especially for secret who need a result here otherwise they are crashing out of the semi-finals we have doubtless the flank he's playing as the Italians right next to him as pocket is viper viper is playing as the Vikings in the red we have Jordan 23 he's playing as the Portuguese and in the orange we have tatto not Jordan Zack and he's playing as the jacks he is these guys next-door neighbors it's gonna be more confusing here but let's see how that goes so no surprises there on the SIVs you know we're seeing pretty typical sieve selection and across on the other side of the lake on the north we've got rear in the gray playing as the Portuguese dig out playing in the teal as the Malay and that's the difference there they've got Malay and not the Japanese and then in the other pocket misfire playing as the Vikings in blue I don't on the right side this Miguel playing as the Italians in green so it's a very similar setup to what we had with sy versus viene in the other semifinal and if I'm not mistaken it was the team that had the malay that wasn't that game though i don't think it was because of the malay that they wanted yeah a couple things to point out here I was saying before this match started just how good VIPRE was in classic AOC water and you mentioned that fires at previous masters of violence in the old balance while they both chosen Vikings so no fires from them we will get to see the galleys we will get to see the micro so look out for that is not fire is not making fires I know it's what is this blasphemy yes he's smoking right Vikings of course such a great team bonus cheaper docks for everyone you can't do without them in a team game but they can very much be forgotten in 1v1 water however I mean I want to bring the attention back to the map because although we said okay it's a weird shape and all this more importantly I think is the positioning of the town centers relative to the lake now it's a double-edged sword the secret guys have to travel a lot to get to the lake which means they'll have a lot more time walking might have misjudged the timing for the second or third docks but they also have a lot more space to build and if they win the water they could potentially do a lot more damage from the water against their Louis who don't have much space to build yeah I think if l OS lose water they cannot trade really and they can maybe in the right corner to the northern corner but it's awkward as you said because of the lack of access to resources and just space in general this actually was exactly what happened with sy and Vietnam earlier and sy ended up winning water despite not Oh actually they were the team that had more space in that game dad clicks up the Lecce Annie's G's right next to Miguel yeah they are sharing fish at the moment so for now they're friends Italians as well so they have pretty close together here one thing I noticed on this left side however is that reott is look at his dock right it's similar to last game last Baltic game a bit leather along this this tendril you've got tato and tatters gonna be up to feed a little faster than rit so potential for damage there onto RIT from tatto on that left side it's at so can't really escape that area at any point so I guess on one hand we it doesn't have as much fish but he can also flee to an ally with his fishing ships or his Navy tato he can't so this puts pressure on the pockets yet again viper and jordan to help tattoo out yeahbsolutely they're gonna have to come over send some reinforcements some some support we'll see how things develop on this right side they built the docks across from each other they're gonna keep that theme and build the second docks across from each other as well maybe even the third who knows I'm not sure if we're looking into a mirror here or not but it's looking pretty pretty close for both of these guys down a fraction of a second faster to futile and and if you're in either of these guys position right now you know how important water is on this map you're probably feeling a lot of pressure to perform yeah and you're also telling your allies there's no way my fish survive yeah because you can't you cannot fish here they're so close to enemy fires the fishing ships will probably go down for both doubt and Miguel probably I mean they are so close together that it's almost inevitable that that will happen but you've got Viperine pocket playing as Vikings then by firing pocket playing fires that's right Vikings like a galley is coming over from both of their teammates actually so we can see on the right side the galley and fire ship combination well maybe I fibers still on his way to futile age he's gone for more of a fast castle builder right so so Viper will not go for futile Age galleys he could go for long boats maybe so difference in styles there I like I mean I like it because it's different I do think it's risky for Viper to do that they sacrifice the early game but that the the lake is big enough you know you can have your Lake and you can fish it you can definitely get away with a fast castle here I think and although it will leave secret with less presence on the early game in the early game water they could bounce back pretty strong with Viking fire Viking longboats in the castle age here Jordan has started with galleys and not fires for secret as well so this is very very different than what we expected here and I'd say that the engagements have been good for secret so far tattoo hasn't lost any fish yet he he forestry it to run away with his fish and this is buying Jordan time to mask those galleys such a did blues villager on his wood line there to do ghoul Scout which is now gonna get walled in and beaten to death so worth it for de Gouw I'd say but in the end these guys yeah they might end up getting outnumbered for now on the water we should see fire coming over with some galleys pretty soon and that should help them to do damage and maybe vapor will lose his fish the concern here really is Viper doing this pass castle is very greedy he could be denied the docks if fire gets over here pronto well Miguel did deny that one dock already so Viper with the waste of wood and vipers lost all of his fish and I I really don't like the strat I I'm curious to see how Viper would do with his micro with the longboats but they're giving up full water here and generally not a fan of giving up any type of Matt controlling Age of Empires - yeah I mean sometimes it does work though I mean think about the Aztecs for example right you could wall up as the Aztecs go in yeah and then spam Eagles and just take it right back anyway the question is can they do that here if I is gonna deny the third docker think of these Gallio that's so big man that's so huge that's the second dock that's been denied VIPRE deleted the one so he lost that one would there this one was 73% of the way up and he aunt is really that one as well so great recognition from fire and Miguel to get there because they know what vipers strategy will be and now they are in the now viper sorry is in the castle age he's lost oval he's lost a doc and he's sending another Villa over to try and build one can they come back happen with the longboats can they do it now the longboats are strong and with vodka narrow they can take down the fire galleys really effectively but can he do enough damage when he's outnumbered because you know when you're outnumbered so heavily it doesn't matter if you've got the stronger unit the numbers end up winning in the end yeah and to get numbers you need darks Vipers villager is trying to build a dock on the left-hand side closer to Jordan now which will only be his third dock and he should get that up the massive long boats will begin and no one for el OS has clicked up to the castle age yet so Viper has some time yeah and the nice thing about long boats as well as they do train faster so he's got that going for him and in fact life is actually out of gold he's struggling for gold at the moment so we'll see if he can can actually get enough long boats out to make a difference here right now before the castle age does start to come through for the l OS players but if you're an LS is shoes right now what do you do do you back up do you um you know where do you go where do you hide I don't think you can really can you you have to back up though Gow is on the way to Castle age you know at first I questioned this but this is actually looking quite good because Viper look at his micro here Vipers also adding eco at home with extra town centers so he'll have a huge both eco and military and look at the fight he's taking versus fire look at the fight he's already taken verse Miguel these long boats are strong man that's absolutely true and he doesn't have that many of them but doubt has quite a lot of fires right now as well and when you look at Miguel with only four fires it's safe to say doubt wouldn't his flank and I was very full military I don't know if they're all fires but he's safe c1 the flank and that's definitely giving secret the edge right now as Vipers longboats just kind of add a little spice into the mix yeah it's it's interesting that Viper has chosen to go without ballistics he went for the town center instead so again more of that safe approach where they've gone for more economy instead of more military upgrades but I think it's because of the mobility the longboats have right now you can chase down any year instead of running away from you so good decision yeah that's super fast on the left side tattoo just loses fish as rear comes in and hunts them down RIT still has two fish alive and in fact right now l OS do you have two more fish in total than secret most players did end up losing their fish over the course of the feudal age Castle H coming in now for more and more players but it will be two gal first to castle phase team war galley comes through but he is the one who's out him but down the longboats the fire galley is bearing down upon him and he has to run away Viper has 11 kills and seven deaths I think that will only get better oh he's doing a great job pincer on to do Gao that's gonna find him some more kills as well and yeah I guess you just can't escape from the longboats Kenya they're everywhere and even Jordan here is coming in to fight fire is about to complete but he might be going in a little bit too soon maybe no okay backing off and small update here Miguel is swinging fire resources so after Miguel lost on water he's now slinging resources to fire also fires getting ballistics and Viper went without that Viper has a lot more villagers but I think ballistics is an upgrade he'll need soon yeah no wonder if maybe doubts will undermined he's going Castle I would say maybe you no doubt could sling as well but to be honest I'd rather get the Italians in and then yeah and can try and just do the landing with the condos here so yeah no sling going on for secret at the moment doubts gonna play the tank with the careening and war galley tech coming in for his fire ships and we'll see the sling from fire net or to fire at doing a reasonable amount I'd say he's got the largest military by a landslide yeah that's a forty military that's twice anyone on Secrets team and maybe this comes into play because he could make the the galleys and upgrade them right VIPRE could not make many long boats in futile age a what a fight here parables from read war galleys from fire war galleys from Doge al will the meat shield of doubts fire ships be enough here for secret now that's a water fight right there I do wonder you know fires attacking the dock with a few of his ships but the fire ships have been eaten up and fires more galley is now continuing to reinforce you've got rid with some caravels as well on the north side it does look good for L OS as Vipers numbers of long boats dropping quite quickly here the numbers still fairly solid for L OS but of course the reinforcements advantage is for team secret at the moment as they are fighting closer to their job do you have to pull back and retreat but reinforcements are not easy when your docks are to the right of this so Vipers docks are now garrisoned he can't really reinforce this if fire continues to push in with doge ow what a fight from fire unreal really nice I love that the Portuguese players are going for caravels as well it's not a unit you see a whole lot of because you don't see Portuguese on water outside of team games very often but these are pretty good actually against fire ships as well I'm not sure about the the value of them versus war galleys though I guess it depends how bunched up they are because they act a bit like scorpions right the projectile there I think Viper traded pretty well-versed them it's just that he didn't have the numbers of fire young boats are better than galleys but you need have the numbers and vipers just losing numbers and I should point out that Miguel's on the way to castle now so it hasn't been a full-on sling was just a little boost for fire and also reott is full booming so at least I don't think he's I don't know he's making war galleys now as well for a second he wasn't creating I thought he had abandoned water okay yeah no I thought so as well actually now I'm looking at tato and I'm wondering naturally what what's the game plan here he's doing the University now he's got it monastry he looks like he's gonna go imp in a minute but then what does he follow through with uh you could push on lands or go for Imperial aged water those are really his only two options here and fires is on his way to the Imperial age for LLS oh man that's gonna be a huge advantage but where is he right now oh he's over there it's blue on blue kinda hard to see on the mini-map but they are backing up some space here and that's probably because they're a little bit cautious of the additional fire ships coming in from doubt but I'm worried now for RIA because R it's gonna get caught out on the left side and lose everything I don't think there's any way about that yeah he needs to run honestly he's probably the least important person on water for his team at the moment it's kind of good that Dachau and fire aren't getting hit so I think LLS will take that I'm still looking at tatto you know just trying to analyze what he'll go for here he dogs he okay he's now adding the docks I was literally going to say he doesn't have any docks until now yeah so yeah he's rushing them up on the left side he eats houses you know he's actually gonna get housed if he doesn't pop down a bunch of houses real quick kind of kind of funny but he's doing war galleys actually defiance by looks things as well speaking of fire he has 47 military but vipers catching up by prison and considering the war galleys are better or starting to they're not better that the long boats are better than war galleys that's why secret currently has the scored lead VIPRE will not have the Imperial age technology though that gonna be the biggest difference yeah fires gonna have galleon soon and then they're hoping to clean it with that that they're just kind of hanging out in the corner here hoping to get as much time as possible for galleon and I think they'll get enough time actually galleon embraces it quite quick researchers and by the time they take the fight they should have it up now Malay this is interesting middle a Dallas ah Chrissy harbors could be on the cards here toward a gal but right now it's gonna be all about this the fight shaping up on the left side we've got war galleys at caramels from Viet war galleys from to Gao and then fire with the big galleons coming up the rear and honestly they better run because yeah if they get caught out here they're gonna lose everything who they need is tat oh they need tat so to get his fast fire ships in the fight his docks are on the other side of the lake here it's gonna take some time to arrive but when he does arrive I think they're forced to fight otherwise they'll lose all their water it doubts on the way to imp and he is a ton of fire ships as well but he's not in the inn he's uh he's not really all that close to him can secret hold on here there's been interesting stages where one team has to go back and then one team is then forced to uh to wait for more upgrades you know that's quite similar in 1v1 as well actually correct so one player pushes forward then they lose the defenders advantage and then they get pushed back and then it flip-flops you know back and forth but now it's all gonna be all about the LRS seem keeping that massive units together and keeping the production going at the moment it seems like no attempt at any kind of landing is happening here it's all-out water naval warfare for the time being at Jordan and Viper are also holding out for m3 it is right behind them with that are they forced to fight secret it feels like they're almost forced to take an engagement otherwise Viper will lose all of his dogs yeah that backed in right now but they are gonna have the support of tatto coming over we've got reott making some demos now because of the fire ships added into the mix and oh they're actually going to be backing up and I'm wondering if this is the right play from el OS because I guess they've only got war galleys on to gaol right now but still George and vipin or Imperials yes and we I can see a lone boat from the fire it's just the whole water triangle is being used by secret it's perfect you have fires on front you have caravels you have long boats the only thing we're not seeing a lot of because they don't need them is demos and now a Love Boat switch for fire so he will have a leat long but what a game yep it's coming through it's about to hit but oh this is not a good fight if the gout keeps going back yeah needs to come in a really good okay from the secret team but again Jordan was out of position their doubt wasn't up in front so there's a real back-and-forth going on here as these guys are jostling for position and I'm wondering how affected these fires from Tasso are going to be to be honest because right now I don't think he's got enough in fact I think he's gonna make some kind of play for the land fairly soon yeah there's potential for that on both sides now because players are close together especially on the right where players can transport but back to the water for a second doubt does have a lot of fast buyers I do think fires in general will be less effective because of fires long boats long boats are so good at chewing up the fire ships yep exactly and for those wondering why that is because you look at the Longboat stats and you look at the Galleon stats and what's changed the difference really is the fact that they fire multiple arrows so they're able to do a lot more brute force damage versus two fire ships since each animal has to do a minimum of one damage for people on water for secret it is still 3/4 L OS because miguel has been sending resources every now and then to fire will he go land soon against out that could be an option he's still Castle over here on the right but here we go in the water now oh no to Gao don't get caught out like this galleons about to come in for him oh that's bad wants to commit here that does bad for dugout he just lost 10 to 15 galleons as he's getting the upgrades it's really all on fire now cuz redoes n't have the numbers the secret just has so much Navy yeah and tantos pushing on land tato is pushing on land with jostles barracks now yeah but here's the water fight this is what we've been waiting for all this time both teams now ready to commence and you know I do want to take my eyes off this because we didn't want to miss this this is what we're here for doubt boat coming up in the front lines a little bit late it's hard to say news god it looks like Viper might have a lot more more boats on the field his military count much higher than fires right now but you've also got the addition of the GAO and we're on this left side it's gonna be secret who are buckling secret go back I was just about to say they had the numbers but because of fire because of the longboats and a galleon stack and also credit to do Gao for adding more numbers they holds with less people in the fight on water they hold incredible stuff Miguel's on the way to improve them still not sure what he'll go for he's actually going for fires now Zac he's adding ducks now he will join now we said before that chato was going for land and he was he's making a landing on the left side now and of course condottiere or a team bonus so you get them as the Japanese as well not too much damage here yet but the castles are down and really I'm gonna have to divert his attention to this however with only one screen we can only show one thing at a time so we have a show either the water fights or the landing but fortunately because we're three K casters we didn't miss anything important on the landing and you saw the water fight and now we're seeing the devastation of the condo Sierra from Tata and this will immediately reflect on water that the condos are Japanese condo so they have that attack speed as well reott I think he recognizes he's going to die he's telling Joe Gow to stonewall so these condos don't get through to him but it's over man it's over secret all the GG secret are gonna win the land conclusively on the left side and that you actually pushing back on the water as well wow what a freaking game 40 minutes 21 seconds but that was action-packed man that was action-packed oh man how do you even start to reflect upon that game we had everything we had caravels two long boats two fires two galleons with every unit on the water with the exception of heavy demolition ship correct yeah and amount Lance we had the condos we had the team bonuses we had the tribes insane stuff there I think what it came down to is more people were on water for secret when Miguel started slinging fire that was with the intention of killing the secret players it was not to be in 5050 engagements it was to kill them and secret they held on they ran back a couple times and then they realized okay eventually we'll have the numbers because we have four on water and I think at that point when they realized they were okay they then said dad so you can actually justify going on land yes it was a good strategy from lol s it didn't work out and I guess the fast castle was the play for Viper that was an awesome awesome game and you know this is the thing right with the what these water battles this is why I didn't want to look away from this because one fight can decide the game yeah and this fight at the end decided the game l OS blah okay we can't win the water it's done meanwhile I mean you've also got tato pushing in with those condos on the left side Japanese condos obviously attacking faster as well and they would absolutely steamroll brihat on this left side look at the KD for viper 114 kills and 55 deaths now that's obviously impressive but that was only possible because of doubt and tatto having mediocre cadiz because of sacrificing fires if viper had a constant meat shield in front in the Imperial age and fire didn't really have that Miguel was about to go for fire ships for his team because they knew it was needed but it was too late at that point yeah and I looked at both teams are just constantly waiting for the right fight and yeah it looked like hell OS were in a great position to take the fight and then secret would back off and then just as you think okay yet secret are backed up to the docks l OS are gonna push through and take the fight and they go back yeah because they're not confident because it's one of those things you have to be a hundred and ten percent that you're gonna win that fight and then you commit because as soon as you turn around and run away after you've committed you take too many losses because of ballistics yeah and the only way you can be damn sure you're gonna win a fight is if you've experienced a fight similar to that at least a thousand times you know these guys don't look at tech trees to figure out if they win a fight they experience it and they've been doing it for years yeah exactly and the thing is as well like because they're so closely matched these players are so closely matched one of the things that catches them out sometimes it's like they think they've got a lead but the window that they have to do the damage is so small like the difference between fire getting elite longboats and Viper getting elite Longboat was maybe a minute and that's not long enough to take the fight and win it conclusively and the last thing you want is to be in the middle of a fight when a big tech comes in for your enemy and suddenly you've lost it because like we say you once you're committed you're committed on the water at least you can't just run away and expect to get out get out of there when your opponent has ballistics and they're going to be doing damage on the retreat so the weak link in hindsight was actually Miguel here Miguel losing to doubt was a pretty big deal because right after he lost he went into the sling the reason they lost was because they didn't have numbers on water so Miguel played amazing in Game one in Game three I doubt bested him here and I think I mean I know there's a lot that went into this but I think that that's what made Miguel sling and that's what brought us to this point you know I could not be more excited for Game five and this is just the semi-finals I'm watching this dream this is just the semi-finals so we have the finals coming up yeah and I tell you this is one of the best bolts at games the seen in a long time one of the best water games I've seen on the expansion's due to the fact that we had such variety going on there you know we didn't really talk about the caravel and how that affects things like it's basically got the same HP as the Galleon the same attack the same armor the same range what's the difference well it's damages is more like a scorpion so against fires it actually performs pretty well and it also hits the units in the backline but I don't think the caravels had much of an impact in that match to be honest what one more one more thought here and then the we don't want to talk to a few errs we'll say shut it right so I said that players have to have that feeling they have to be confident they're gonna win a fight well in just regular rated games when these guys stream and play they don't actually play Baltic so this just proves that guys have been training they've been strategizing offline in secret for lack of a better word yeah all right we're being told to shut it I mean on a game like this it's so interesting to talk about it there's so many factors that go into winning a game like that there's so many things that we don't necessarily get to cover in game in the game but it's nice to just go over at the end because it's there's always so many things so a quick skip over the achievements there and we're gonna be going into the fifth game guys it's gonna be match point it's 2-2 and I don't know why the overlay just kind of bugs out here I'll fix that but yeah it's 2-2 and the cross will be the decider one of the other great hybrid maps I would say yeah all right yeah I think it's a I think it's a perfect game to end on absolutely cross and Scandinavia been generating some fantastic games so far and I can see the four teens in the chat so we're gonna be starting the game in just a second here of course the winner of this game this game will go through to the grand final and they will face sy for the the championship I suppose for Europe East for v4 when is that final by the way oh is that it's right after this game what are you kidding me today oh my god I can't wait and they're also playing for $3,000 which is the first-place prize for the full v4 event second place with 1,500 and joint third with 568 but I think we're doing it we're going into game number five LMS vs. secret game five here the match point the decider who wins this and who goes home we'll all be found out in just a few moments time well not moments we don't know how long the game's gonna be could be now could be two but it's certainly gonna be a good one I can tell you that much for free all right buckle up my friends the lambing fest to begin just as I'm about to introduce secret I see that tatto in the orange is possibly gonna lose a board to Miguel so we don't have too much time to do the introductions because these guys get started right away Zach no he's stealing Miguel's pull and Miguel's back hey guys horse whoa it's a forest love yep the trading that HP it honestly felt like they agreed to do that as well because they attacked the boar at the same time okay listen you have that one I'll have this one we'll share basically Miguel wins because he's got more help on his Scouts so what played mogera good job well well played I'm gonna go over to Tatsu now he's playing us to qamar his pocket is the Viper Vipers playing as the Celts in the red we have jordan 23 he's playing as the Turks which is this if we've seen more often than I expected in this tournament so maybe some some more slinging a doubt is playing as the Magyars as the other flank is act take it away with LS yet down on the south on the flank it's ritzy playing as the Mongols here pocket you've got fire playing as the Byzantines do Gao Spanish in the teal and Miguel on the other flank playing as the Franks in the green did we see no they didn't play the Tex already that must have been the last set because we have seen tags an unusual amount and I can tell you why it is is because everybody knows they're the best of in the game so of course players are gonna utilize that to their advantage there's a lot of people on YouTube who disagree with you Zack well but you know what though I am wondering Tasso actually blame his own ball no he didn't wait unless because there's a scout no no sorry no we're not Scandinavians behind the behind that you see what Miguel's waiting there I did check immediately after the lane to see Miguel's waiting there and I think he'll ain't at oh well vipers see Miguel's Scout cuz if not a tattoo might have loom but he could still lose this villager but yes though here as well he's like I think they're communicating yeah VIPRE will yeah what's this here look at this fire coming down to the south to build a dock right now oh I like this this is what I said in the other game man I said that every time I've seen a team have two people dock on the one flank pond they've won in this tournament every time so L OS has chosen to do that and it's actually safe docks for Jordan and Viper in the back yeah on this left side yeah so the reason I I think that this can be good is because they can have control of three ponds potentially yeah it'll be a 1v1 between Miguel and Tatsu in the north if Miguel wins that he'll have an easy victory then in the south l OS and will have their pond in the back and as you know the fish boom is so important yep and that's gonna be Franks versus Qamar and all looks like Miguel may lose a villager here Oh No tato trying to go for the hill Viper but Miguel's Ward himself in will have to stay play hostage for a while there I think but we've got the Scout de gal coming over as well dig out he has more health on his scout so it looks like they'll actually get this villager back and well they might end up diving for the Ville but I don't think Viper would do that because I think he values the Scout too much yeah he'll value the Scout here yeah oh the Villa get a piece of the action oh he'll get a rip shot in but I always picture as the village is just punching the river and shot Viper does kill Miguel scout yeah he will run away with his I guess it's not too bad action well I know just remember Ian actually stole the boar in the south from doubt by the way but doubt now interestingly heavy on wood low on food not clicked up to feudal what's going on a muscle our sheep as well yeah I think you can heal our sheep as well he's gonna bring a sheep home but the lame move is is real right now and so that was the punt and he'll lose his fish yeah yeah you're right you're right so maybe el OS here shaping up to have three ponds also tatto having two sheep blamed by miguel by the way in the north two sheep on the northwest of the map just hiding there so so guys when we cast james after doing this enough times there's an order that we address things this game has had no order now cuz i think with all the laymen and then you're you're bringing pawns into the equation equation it is really difficult so at some point this will even out a little bit but who really know if i piranha fast castle build though way later to feudal 30 population right now including his fish and well we'll see how that develops of course but things going to hot up on the ponds very soon as doubt will undoubtedly lose his pond and in the north it's gonna be franks versus Caban you have to favor the franks there you'd think in terms of raw feudal timing but actually tato makes it up first yeah tato so often is the guy that secret relies on when it comes to water this is a bold prediction but if secret loses the northern pond i'd say it's over they almost because doubt so far behind he's in full wall mode as he loses his fish Viper's actually docked that one pond with tatto so he could lose his fish as well miguel could do a lot of damage here man he could but I don't think Miguel's winning the water here you've already got the first fires out for tat oh so tato you know holding the gauntlet here for his team and actually making sure that they don't go out to just such an unfortunate start yeah maybe not an unfortunate start because you know a lot of this stuff is preventable but yeah essentially I think Miguel will not win the water but he might kill some fish Viper that fortunately does have the other pond in the back so at least they have a failsafe here as well yep jordan 23 the other pocket for secret is going with scouts as Mongols his Scouts have not gone forward yet he's patrolling the chokes so they can get team walls up Andrea arrives with his own Scouts and tatto is letting Jordan know that these units are on the way love it man oh no doubt here very close to losing a villager they're building a barracks in no-man's land but it looks like you'll get it up and because the teamplay they're from secret showing as they communicate this between each other that's nice but you know man I got so freaking hyped right now I mean I know the GAO coming in at the north by the way as well with the scouts there and it looks like you might have an angle on to tattoes wood line tattoo has got a Spearman but you know tattoos focus so far has been on the water so he's wide open to some aggression here no Timor for the secret team just yet just a small thing I don't think Miguel expects a viper to be on this pond so now he's oh yeah now he's the doc exactly so he might prioritize this a little bit more it could snipe some of Vipers fish tattoo only has one remaining meanwhile greevey Viper being doubled now by de Galleria that they he's the only player that's gone for a fast Castle he's lost a villager he's not able to get his second stable up but I think he will with the addition of a couple of Spears and he's basically gonna go for Celt Knights out from pocket to try and wrestle back some map control and clean up these Scouts maybe strike back and do some counter attacking as well tatto could be doubled now in come Stoke gal he'll pick off one spear nice micro but he needs to get away from this yeah oh he's micro did yeah that's okay actually isn't it that's okay because Reed's coming around the other side attack those quick blows tattos quick walls save all those villagers or I saved that at least you still collecting gold on the left side a gate and a palisade something just dialed over scouts around again and Jordans now coming over with his Scouts as well fortunately tatter can hop into the houses of course which is something we often forget about but certainly a lot of raiding on to chat oh so far tatto killing eight losing seven however has certainly done quite well on the water so yeah Miguel's still pressuring that water and Viper is now losing some of his fishing ships so despite tattoo winning on water I guess fishing ships can still die fire is slinging reott fire is slinging the Mongol flank the Mongol flank which has had a really big advantage over doubt so far this game this could be trouble for secret if reott can get to a castle at some point with manga died receiving slang it's gonna be very tough for secret true but Vipers got quite an advantage in night production already granted their Celt nights but he already has eight military I think that means he's got six nights as he's got two spares he's working on his eco at the same time he's also got 11 fish working but when you look at the fish numbers and you look at the other side fires got 16 decals got 17 and these guys have got a really strong food economy going as secret just about when the North Pond and the left pond is being fished by three of them right now the Vipers nights can't get in LS have full Walder base when dough gal hits Castle age which is about to happen he will build a castle and he will add conquistadors which will shred Celt Knights I don't think Viper can do damage with these Knights and that's a big problem for them it is and actually it's interesting because you know they went for this early Scout aggression and admittedly they didn't actually get that many villager kills but or maybe they did actually because writs got a 10 to 2 kg and I can only assume it's from the scouts but either way the point here really is that it's given them so much time to wall up and it's given them time to close it check it double-check it and make sure there are no holes and now to go will make that castle as you say and Viper build a house yeah build a house oh god that could have been so bad he's fine now these guys are cool and calm under pressure I was just getting stressed out by watching the game chees yes in the south as well reott now he said he was receiving sling earlier he's got nights coming up doubt moving into Maggie Oh cavalry arches actually really strong Oh what is it wow that was this you've got it go over the control line it's fine it's now it is he's got it under control indeed the three wolves want a piece of the action Faysal now making what make you fight if this one gets involved make it well it will be five you know what are they tackling the week night other nut I wouldn't mind some thank you killed all fire wolf situation you've got Celt nights versus [ __ ] nights then I think this maybe wasn't the plan the plan was it I don't think they really wanted Viper to be going into double stable nights here yeah it was not the plan and Jordan has to assist with camels he arrives and that might be just enough to the two weak flanks in the north tatto and Miguel I say weak because they're slow they are about to hit Castle H at the same time the wolves are having a field day right here though it's still it's still unlock all those guys like homing missiles and really ever you start losing any health really but it's just kind of funny to see them go - here comes in as - gal brings over the conquistador Vipers had a position with his Knights right now and all the camels have basically been been taken out so doubt gonna have to run back Jordan running back and the secret guys were a bit split well he could plant three it into his base here it's gonna go for it he does leathery it into his face the monks goes down the cab Porter's they don't have thumb ring yet they're also fighting uphill what an engagement for LS and the conquistadors and Knights could follow through the gate yeah they're gonna take the gate down super quick 400 health and that's that's an opening into doubt space he needs more camels from from Jordan but fortunately Jordan will supply and even Viper now bringing over more nights as well but this base we've worried for Tata this makes me concerned that tato is gonna be in a bit of a troublesome situation fairly soon yeah definitely possible meant definitely possible Miguel 4l OS on tatto side he's just booming up so some point he will want to go for paladin but that we're talking much later yeah now what mounting scores are close actually secret have a slight score lead right now but it's kind of hard to see where that's coming from at the moment I mean look at Rhea 25 kills 13 deaths the army comp 4l OS just seem to be better at this stage yeah and just wondering now when where does this develop to do they keep pushing on to doubt or do they try and go somewhere else do something else take cause I think this is working quite well on doubt at the moment but secret gonna start building up more and more army to repel this it's the only vulnerable area for 4l OS is Miguel because Miguel doesn't have any military but he could always receive help from the galleys Olga's da Gama's conks good fight here though as Jordan comes in the back line with the camels might try and block the conquistador here just get a cure engagement there against then lots of bonus Town Hall exactly play another graph face yeah yeah and Jordan he has good updates as well unfortunately he's fighting uphill there for the rest of the fight but that's as good as it gets dog al needs to stick with rias they need to communicate a little bit more this conquistadors should not have got caught out like that I wonder how many nights viper made because he's only got three kills and three deaths right now well here's some butchers is a build friends just about to cook up two MPs at the largest economy after that fast castle age and he's heavy on stone so he will go forward Raiders a Daoist going up to him right now as well and he's getting sling bite at Oh yep all right so you've relegated your Khmer player to slinging I think that's okay they can always come into the game later and they take longer to activate so maybe actually swinging as the camera is okay for now doubts just gonna keep going for CAV archers and as you say Viper will switch into words do you think the boys are gonna be that good here uh it depends on what rear top to Cirie it's on to castles so I don't know I do think they'll have a nice little early push however I just don't know when you're being slung you also need to have your own economy doubt doesn't have a huge ball cap archers he doesn't have access to that gold so this could become an issue real fast despite being slung here and this is all before Miguel gets to full strength he's all ninety bills Miguel will go for paladin without sling in the next couple minutes oh whoa hold on look how many T C's but I'll never know my knees go yeah he's got five TCS I thought he had six cuz this Tier one looked green for us it's gonna be frank paladin as well by the way so that's that's only gonna be beat here by by Khmer elephants and the Khmer player is currently slinging so yeah it's kind of worrying I guess another option for secret those X sorry but if doubt can just hold he's building a castle now so that's perfect just holds if Viper can go right to Miguel and he's building barracks he's building siege workshops if he goes with Halberdier seed Ram Miguel just dies wait Miguel's on the other side Viper Vipers belong nice to me oh yeah sorry sorry I mean yeah vital is building on the other side I was looking at doubt putting the castles like how is doubt gonna get to Miguel but no it's exactly what you mean up in that north side but incomes reared and he's gonna scout this and he's got a scout this and Vipers castle unfortunately for them will go up Miguel wanted to build one of his own dog delete the castle Miguel delete the castle okay he saved me Tilly today he deleted it I I hope he did regardless so it's very good that they got here just to stop Vipers momentum yes giving the rams nice and early lytic homes here as well like let's face it we just got a gas and inside the buildings for the as ghosts eat ramen the way he has got a ball ready and Jordans coming over with a lot of camels right now so this could be a good momentum swaying for secret if they get this push going and they're gonna start that push right now for LLS the big question is where does reott go because he has elite manga died now he has three castles he has the stone to build two more and he's still collecting stones so riah really carrying his team here he gets cavalier burst that's a really good fight next to the conquistadors and this is before the mangas I arrived so can LLS holds here I think their team is much stronger as a whole they just need to get reott on full manga die production he needs to have fifty to sixty and then there's really nothing that Vipers team could do Miguel trying to stole a hair but I think the walls will not be able to hold out at all as the villagers will go down and the Rams will puncture their way in what the army from Rio go oh he's holding on the right side with the conchs right yeah he's gonna move around I guess go into Miguel's base to save him well here they go secret making their their push here the castle are gonna go down pretty quickly as traps to quite at the back but we go sodomy have heavy camel yet from Jordan and this is gonna be weak camels now just basically being thrown away here I feels yeah and the halberdiers are strong versus cavalier especially Mongol cavalier but with the conquistadors behind I don't see this working out Miguel still has 100 villagers so he can make his own powder and he's working on that as the imperial age up straight comes in yeah but what is it enough for savings what if he loses stables here and you might make the protect the production going look at the Cavalier walk Cavalier gone the conquistadors that's all that remains yeah all this heavy Cobb Archer and where on earth is reiative he's not here written I wow I'm honestly surprised keep in mind fire has been slinging him this entire time I'm honestly surprised that reott doesn't have more manga died on the field I mean do Cavallaro a lot of nights but I love to switch to write that so much fighting was going on in the south and now this I switched up to the north you got doubt with heavy cavalry archers here as well which you're going to perform well versus the comps in mass like this especially since they are the magaz and you'll get recurve bow but yeah they're actually killing the stables of Miguel this isn't such a momentum play now the secret as they push through here as maybe starting on their push to the grand finals as well look at this scorpions coming out to live for here as well I like that if Ellis didn't have marbles the game would be over the only thing that can really bring them back here is elite manga die I feel and now like starting to ensure it be there but look at Jordan on the back lines he's just waiting in about 30 seconds he's gonna have heavy camel and he's just gonna come in the back and trap these calm and manga die I can see it now is it is the timing gonna be raised oh yeah doubt loses this day yeah I guess they must wanna see a the here he comes in the red it could still work block but I don't know man the trunks are moving out to the right side yeah the engagement has been pretty good for Jordan on the hill he's stopping the reinforcements from reott the Viper has heavy scorpion what a game here that the big deal now is that fire and mckellar at 100 pop for a Lois Rhea it's only at 130 himself he just can't pop up his manga job and this is becoming more and more of a problem as Viper he's pushing unrivaled with the Seagrams nothing's there to kill them Miguel is losing more and more space l OS that want to trade soon they cannot with the lack of space and this looked so dire for secret earlier on in the south with what was going on there but you know they completely tighten it around very quickly short space of time and they've gutted out the front of Miguel's base Miguel however does have paladin on the way that's all well and good for how do you deal with the Celt player right now what how do you deal with the c'mere potatoes research old snap yeah that come up play I said it earlier on I said the koomer come online later that's fine because when they come online they are gonna be making a a lot of elite bath elephants and they will be unstoppable what do they have to deal with battle elephants in this game did LS much yeah the only unit is manga die and debris it only has twenty of them the Jordan did a great job at taking that engagement on the hill and cutting off the reinforcements Viper's death ball his Celt death ball it really can't be addressed unless you have your own seat and they don't have time for that LS right now that's just stalling trying to you know get together a decent number of military unit so they can push this back you know paladin elite comps and elite Maglites it's a pretty strong combo but meanwhile in the South look at doubt he's fighting for that top scorer spot and he's got fully upgraded cab archers now for the Magus he's got four traps and he's taking out that castle and that you cannot afford to be losing your castles as the Mongol player here three it's already having issues with the production and now he's losing what I believe is his third castle because there were two Ford next to the mining camp yeah not good this also will mean dope gal needs to help because I don't Syrian holding here and Dachau can't afford to help because tatto and Jordan are pushing on the other side with Piper via still in the feudal age going up to the castle age now as VIPRE pushes forward into Miguel's face and fire basically now is going to be slinging less resources these guys have got to store they've got to hold until fire can get in but it's a long way away and I can't see it happening they did not make enough of the snake and this is such a great series because we've seen sling in different contexts we yeah sling two players swinging one and and just steamrolling and then we've seen slings where it actually hasn't worked out so well and I think this is one of those games yeah for sure it is Game five in this best-of-five this is the semi-finals there's money on the line there's prestige on the line there's also points towards the land on the line oh yeah so I don't think l OS will give it up I think they will try install and to stall the build Bob our tower Zack but it's gonna be tough the Baumbach Tyler's are coming up that's important but you know lifeless made such progress already in to Miguel's base Miguel's trading here with pollen to house and I mean maybe these guys can try and trade along the bottom but well speaking of not giving it up I think you at some point you just have to admit that the game is lost look at how many cavalry archers doubt has in the south he's up to 77 military and secret in what a close series that was do pull through in that fifth game and secure themselves their place in the grand final versus sy which will be coming up next wow what a best-of-five I almost can't believe it secret were down they were on the brink of defeat they've won in an amazing Baltic game and then they finished off L OS in Game five a heartbreaking defeat for L OS but great games all around man as you said like the sling aspect of this has made it oh so interesting because fire he chose to sling first but it didn't pay off in the end tato was more of a reactive kind of sling right he's be full walled and then started swinging doubt to get him back and yeah him and once stock got back into the game Zack there was no stopping him you know I think I recognize that you know these Maggie are heavy cavalry archers they are so good you know even against manga die like you you need castles to produce manga die castles firfer cab archers you just pump them out from like eight ranges yo Jordan using the text there to go for heavy camels that worked out really nicely as well and then by the time tato transitioned out of his sling which by the way like l OS went into this with the strategy to sling that was their plan from the start i believe fire was going to sling that game because he stayed slinging for a long time tato he slung in it like you say a reactionary way he slung to get doubt back into the game he warded up and slung to do that but then he himself went imp and he was imp before fire so the TAC the secret sling was a much shorter more concentrated slaying whereas the l OS sling was much more like okay we're gonna sling from early or mid feudal early castle all the way through to the late game and that's the risk type of slang is well when you decide to sling from feudal it's a huge risk and if it doesn't work for you you generally lose like this I know Jordan and tatto probably will not get as many plaudits because they weren't the ones applying the final pushes but Delta wouldn't be in this position if tato didn't sling him also tattoo did a wonderful job winning the water initially which saved a Vipers fish and his fish just look at those fish traps wonderful oh yeah and then Jordan is well assisted with doubt and Viper Viper had Celts he couldn't really invest heavily into the Knights so Jordan had to go camels which may or may not have been part of the plan and it worked out it's almost the most impressive victory today for secret because it felt like they were so far behind yeah it did and what a beautiful set of games as well all five games being played out LS I mean they are defeats it here they will win themselves I think it's they will win five hundred sixty-eight dollars so that's $100 each and a bit but they will be maybe a little bit frustrated because I think they could taste the victory I think they played extremely well today and I think they could have won their series and I think aftermath could have won their series against secret as well so secret they are dominant but they are very close in their series yeah and I think that the competition has been very heartwarming then secrets not three owing teams they're not five owing teams it's going down to the final game a lot so I've said this frequently over the past year we're in a time where there are other competing teams back in the tyrant days there was tyrant legends and tyrant warlords which beat every other team it wasn't even close right in nowadays we have we have sy we have L OS we have all these amazing players and we're going to see sy ver secret next in the final yeah we are we're about half an hour ahead of schedule and I think if we didn't have that issue with the second game in that series we probably would be bang on schedule actually but man oh man cyber siz secret for the grand final and I'm not gonna lie as much as I love Killer Bee a little bit bummed because I've had a great time casting with you yeah absolutely me too it's been a pleasure and honestly we should do it more often because it is it's so good and I have such a good time so we're gonna have killaby joining us now he's gonna be casting

Channel: EscapeAoE

Views: 29,220

Rating: 4.9166665 out of 5

Keywords: escapeaoe, escape gaming, age of empires 2, age of empires HD, ecl, escape champions league, daut, cool, europe east, commentary, zeroempires, killerb, expert, match, aoe2, t90official, vivi, nili, 4v4, VNA, SY, theviper, secret, los

Id: lAv34Bxboww

Length: 162min 36sec (9756 seconds)

Published: Tue Aug 21 2018