ECL 2v2 Africa | Semi Finals | Frantic vs Vietnam Legends [Full Best of 5]

we have game number one here between Vietnam legends and frantic with me is barbecue Turkmen I will introduce the Vietnam Legends team that I'll pass it along to barbecue Turkmen to do frantic in the orange we have vac tease playing on as eight gyro accounts he is playing as the Mayans and then we have say my name say my name is playing as the Franks and just a heads up Turkmen it's probably best to just say say my name's color if you don't know the history behind wok that it's just just trust me follow my voice on that one and look I ain't getting clipped on this I ain't getting so so anyway man the map is desert that is the Vietnamese team who do we have them for frantic so towards the south of the map playing in the green as the Franks we have Tim so an awesome kind of civilization room up straight away especially on such an open map towards the north side of the map there in at is cyan light blue whatever you want to call it we do have CL as the Mayans frantic looking strong yeah they both have the same SIVs and the first thing I noticed right off the bat is Ciel's map is so freakin Walla bull man like this guy he walls maps that should not be walled and then he has three wood lines which form a circle around his face the only vulnerable area for him will be his main goal if he tries to fool all this but he even has a stone as Mayans protected in the back here I think for Vietnam you have to be very careful about allowing CL to wallop or if he walls up you have to know he could go for plumed archers which is kind of the meta with these SIVs absolutely just in general here the map you've kind of to talk about he can wall up so easily and as a mine player in general they want to get to that late game that's where they really kind of come into it so if he can get there quickly without having to really sacrificed too much time he's gonna be an awesome position to pump out those plumes get in do some damage and if you can't slow him down if he manages to fall through him up you're looking at Eagle warriors you're looking at it's just got so many options you can kind of go in with do so much damage in general yeah and Frank's they have the strong Frank Scout so oftentimes we'll see players open up with Scouts and go in tonight's and you're right mines have those that Eagle option I think for a while now we'll probably see or for the first 30 to 40 minutes we'll probably see plumed archers that way you have the plumed Archer and Knight combination backed I'm looking at his map now what do you think about it it's a bit more open for the mine player yeah I'm having a look at kind of everyone at the moment and at least he's got the back wood there so it's not too bad Gold's in the back so could be worse not gonna get that wall off across the front though that we can see from Cl so in a little bit of a disadvantage there probably the big thing I'm really looking at is red in general here if you have a look at where his lumber liners and is the openness of his base that spells trouble to me straight away wow that is a really tough map it's almost like frantic I've hit the lottery here now only does CL have the best possible map for his sieve and style but red has the the worst map for his sieve if he wants to get tonight to be once to get to multiple t seas then it's gonna be tough for him geez yeah it's just not gonna be an easy play in general we can already see back trying to get up the great wall across the front of the map there it looks like he is gonna be leaving red a little bit on his own so we'll see how this one does play out and generally yeah but you're exactly right as consumers got Franks on there we can get some really early Scouts outs put the early strong Scouts on to the match it means that this kind of open play in general he's got nowhere to retreat those villages to he's gonna have to get something up there early to make it just defendable yeah well I will keep my eyes on backed because he likely wants to go for plumes as I said he is sending some stone miners out and he's going for a pretty pretty big wall three villagers now but he'll he'll probably complete that and he needs to because Tim on the other team he'll be going for scout soon the same is then for player two on the Vietnamese team so maybe he'll be able to help back down a little bit one thing's for sure Turk man he will not be able to get into CLS base CL is almost full walled already we're just over eight and a half minutes it's good he got those four walls up that shows you exactly how easy it was to get his walls going in this map the way that the man just looking at the trees the way it said it is perfect and I think it would have been stupid not to go for it especially in such a tournament game back though finishing up his walls as well obviously not as lucky but he's making it happen yeah and the only vulnerable thing will be his stone but I don't think any range penis will come into play here early on so he might have the time to get the plume doctors up really we just have to shift our focus now to the players who are going Scouts and we have player two here where's his barracks being Bill his barracks being built to the north of the TC the stable will go up and then we'll probably have Tim in the South doing the same and yes even Tim he's getting the walls up pretty soon as well now turkmen he can wall in towards the edge of the map and he'll he'll secure that golden stone in the back yeah both Frank's players obviously going for the stable nice and early both our mine players have walled up we do behave exactly like you said Reds kind of finishing up this wall says they're gonna have a little bit more of an option to defend that wood line we were a little bit worried about Tim going down with the exact same kind of play there again a little bit easier to will end there's Tim with the stone walls actually so that'll be interesting towards the top of his base there Wow looking to really take any damage no I love it because as I said at the start frantic they have a pretty defined style everybody knows they like their walls everybody knows that CL will go for full walls minute five and so here there we go I mean and I'm not even exaggerating CL placed walls minute five in the north there so much so that he missed out on those sheep I guess but uh yeah here come the scouts I just wonder if say my name will be wold I made the mistake if say my name will be full wall to dis rate because he's kind of making this work the only thing is that main gold is still tough oh it's it's not an easy task to kind of go for the amount of villager time he's had to put in it I guess it kind of balances out I'm well not really because really human factors had the worst time everyone's walled up but looking at their bases it is just a rough time that front gold gonna be easy to harass with any kind of scout play it's not far enough to the town center does have this spear out though so he is kind of predicting some of that play to come in has wall to the town center so is backs kind of free which means as we do kind of get to the late-game he does have a lot of safe space you can boom up into but that said everyone's looking like they've got a whole heap of room really to maneuver with at the moment yeah it's amazing good players make bad maps wobble and that's exactly what player 2 has done here now there he goes out to the gold fortunately for him Tim ran right into the TC fire I think that a red will have to shift towards more defensive mindset so he can get his economy right because sure they made scouts but everyone's wolde now you probably want to get right to tonight's and speaking of Castle age we have backed NCL on the way so they will get four plumes soon enough Turkmen yeah the Mayan players are wasting no time here they knew that safe behind their walls cuz all that was really going to be coming in with Scouts and if it was much more than that that kind of be one step behind if that makes sense so being able to wall up get those castles up get our trees out whatever the kind of they want to go for they're going to be able to make that play because we do of course have CL on stone backed on stone as well so we're gonna be seeing those nice early castles and then from there plumes and that's what we'll start to control the matchup start to control exactly where people can poke and prod yeah so for the next couple moments we just need to see if Tim can do damage here he's he's going to try and pressure the gold he will not find any holes in player two's walls he does have more Scouts and he has a forward spear here the last one yeah it's a little bit of a wall off I guess in there are two Spears can say my name hold this it is dicey but sneaky wall I don't even know if that's good though like you know like the scouts Cherie it keeps the scouts close by but now Tim kind of made it through there and he might be able to to harass a little bit more but anyway the castles are probably going up Tim takes the fight here before the spears arrive I just want to take a look over at the other bases in fact is building his castle and then so is CL so soon the plumes will come into the equation Turkmen yeah a really good placement from CL there as well he's actually using that castle not only to defend the lumber line but to defend his main gold as well back to having his mangled my back obviously not gonna be able to be able pressure too much but does have a town center going out back there as well so really looking to get on the village action at the same time here so let's say that's probably the big kind of call in terms of difference he's made towards CL who's still sitting on that one town set up yeah I'm looking at the eCos now for the Frank players say my name is getting pretty close so he is killing Tim's Scouts now which is nice Tim will advance a little bit faster so yes Tim was able to get some harassment in Eaton lost his Scouts but he advances to Castle age faster which means he'll get Knights faster and this is gonna put pressure on Bakht actually to keep saying my name propped up for a few moments because say my name will be in castle but his Gold's exposed in the he'll need some protection yeah looking at the morrow it's gonna come down and who's kind of got the plumes on field and who can do that poking and prodding I'm seeing the second stay will get throw it down by red so nice and early bear plus Tim as well so both players looking to get aggressive here shouldn't be going for too much of a boom behind this but those plumes are kind of kind of where the poking the prodding is gonna start and then we'll see the Knights kind of come in and do the damage where they can what are you thinking they're gonna be able to make plays with the Knights here how are they gonna make it work while Knights are much stronger in early castle age because they're stronger and lower numbers and also while players are making plumed archers they're going for TCS as well so you won't see anyone at this level in a 2v2 over-invest into the the plumed archers they'll go for TCS as well here comes CL with three plumes now he's going to focus down the spears from say my name but bhaktas here as well so I think box with that small hill will be able to protect his ally but yeah a Turkmen basically what I said Knights will be stronger so keep an eye on Tim because he'll be sending them out soon but once the plumed archers get masked and get more upgrades then it's really about the plumes completely agree with you they're on front so with those Knights really they kind of have to take the engagements where they can as early as possible basically as soon as we start seeing that critical mass or that just bulk of plume notches come out that's where it becomes harder and harder for them to kind of pick the engagements this game is so close you have three TCS four backed you have oh you know what there is a difference in saw no I lied CL will be on three times now as well we have the plumed archers fighting on the hill and it is notable that CL has fletching and there's no flexing elver fact has more numbers and he had the hill so he forces he forces CL backed man I'm gonna laugh at too many of those gonna think I'm pathetic but I am just a sucker for it amazing job thereby back to overall managing to get good placement and that's really gonna help him there we go it's a bread startin to pull out the nights as well to be able to really help defend that plus the TC going down on the front gold he's got that area pretty much cemented now yeah and now with a small hill advantage Viet Nam's gonna take the fight again no fletching though so with Tim wood plus two nights it's really interesting the Vietnamese team they're behind it night upgrades are also behind in bloom upgrades but they have the home-field advantage is that gonna be enough here I feel like Tim's plus two should really help out the plumes will not do near as much damage in fact is getting fletching now Turkmen they know they need to deal with this the upgrades need to come in they need to bring it back to a little bit more of a level field because that's the thing they can get those types they can run around and it's just making those units so much more cost-effective in trades and that's really the way you're gonna win out in the early game so getting those little upgrades in there getting the sneaky fights picking off one unit here and there it does make a difference another thing I want to point out is just a map in general there's a lot of gold in the center so as time goes on players will want map control and that's exactly what frantic has now in Game one the plumed Archer style that the meta is to build that initial castle go to three TCS and then lake castle II to build a second castle so I just wonder where that second castle will be if it happens back for example he might want to use it to protect his ally I might want to see the the frantic player see elbow it more offensively because they have a little bit more map control that's a perfect point there to make as well each player did start off with one main gold from there they are forced to kind of venture out into that desert section obviously where's the map kinda gets its name so being able to push out is there it's gonna come down to a lot of that map control and to who can kind of I guess like I said it's a poking and prodding seeing who's going where where you can go to get wake and stop them pushing out we can hold that where you can maneuver out and oh I see a fight at the top yeah this is the benefit of having that map control right you can go when your opponents waiting for you you can switch directions and go in and that's exactly what frantic have done here gray from Tim and CL and they're actually just gonna run back but this is still giving them tons of freedom right because back 10 say my name are chasing so I think that's a good decision to leave actually they would have been way behind in numbers and while Tim arrives at the main TC on the goal he kills a few villagers this is a sick move from Tim that that distract in the back of the base to go they go in they go out and then they arrive to the TC three bills down for say my name it's just swap play in general I coops been saying we've been having some phenomenal team work in these matches and that's exactly what you were saying there as well being able to have that map control maneuver around and poke up there for some out of position snag a few villagers do the same but also got back to moving out to the center as well looks like he does have his castle coming up so there's your answer and where that's gonna be placed yeah going up next to the gold I like that decision and I don't think we're too far off from CL building his he's at 555 stone the armies we were only 26 minutes into the game and just look at the vill and army counts this is insane the plumes will get stronger and stronger but still there's way more Knights and what a fight here both teams have a small hill the CL needs to get on top of this hill I think before they take another engagement and they do and it's not looking too good for Vietnam man they are behind well we've got CL going down ballistics as well so there's not gonna be even any of those stragglers being able to get away now he's doing the damage against the Knights they're holding those hills perfectly the communication has been just absolutely ace yeah it's been fantastic question is should pact have built his castle a little bit closer to this probably would have been risky but the fights just looking at the fights and the kill death ratio been much better for Francis here in Game one and this is right next to say my name's gold I feel bad for the guy but they need an answer to this yeah the stranglehold is coming in at this point if he gets pushed off that gold if he goes back he's not gonna have anything you can really do about it the Gold's a little sensor at the end of the day and age of empires gold is just the absolute king that's where the Knights are coming from its way archers are gonna come from everything that can really stand up to it and plumes being such a cost-effective unit as well yeah that engagement four or five nights down say my name feels like he's four to do something but this is not the time my friend I don't know if there will be a time maybe backed hitting the imperial age sooner than CL will be the difference-maker but Tim is probably going to have a faster imp at this rate so Tim will probably get to the Cavalier before say my name Ken and this might spiral out of control Tim signaling now to CL that they might want to go through these palisade walls and here they come in I think this time around they can stay if they get through man sales just making use of every shot here every second if there's no kind of big fight going on if the plumes aren't choosing to engage their stag in a villager on the gold the snagit a villager on the farms he's just going ham over the fist in efficiency here look at that taking the villages first no he can get rid of them quickly and then the knight engage happens so he gets involved in that yeah it's it's truly insane he has 31 kills and 9 deaths that is it so it's almost like Vietnam needs to hold this now and I think they just might Tim's just some of his nights that I'd still say that's cost-efficient for them though well at the end of the day it's gonna mean they can kind of hold on here but still CL with that kind of I guess just a stutter step there in general it was just an awesome player that say my name and back basically get to live on at this point yeah they do but look at the castles on the front from CL to castles right next to the Gold's now he is taking some losses because he doesn't have Tim next to him this would be the moment we're backed with bracer on the way to clean up the numbers from CL CL cannot afford to micro and stutter step now Tim comes in to help what a game here it's looking good for Francis with map control but maybe backed with a vaster bracer will get a good advantage for his team it'll definitely help but those castles used as a staging point here that's going to be a massive one they're gonna be able to push in on the town centers they can deny the goal deny any forward expand from saying my name as well but the engagements if they can get it back to obviously happy no Imperials oh that's a big engagement there with the CAV yeah lots of nights going down yet again it's all about the plumed archers right the Knights are basically a meat shield i I feel like say my name it's going to need some real help back needs to carry this victory if they're going to get it because here come the trebs now 4cl immediately soon say my name will have no gold whatsoever and I'm still waiting for Tim you know he's actually making more nights and look at his base look at his stables look who's there doc has arrived he's building a castle in his face because he knows he can do that because CL is forward wow what a play all right this might be the thing they kind of need to change it around here and make a little bit of a difference because at the moment we did have say my name really kind of hurt towards the front of his base there and look in they all come as well thank you they're gonna make sure this castle goes up and Tim doesn't really have much here to defend he's got no castle I've got no units man yeah get your stone walls your stone gates ready Tim just just wall up as much as possible funny thing is both of the Frank players seem to be struggling it red has no gold whatsoever unfortunately I was all in the front as we said before but what does Tim do now backed has 35 military that is way more than CL he got the upgrades earlier and Tim maybe should go for a cheap castle or something back in the middle of his base here where he's building this TC just to stall back if he gets in I don't even then we've got the trebuchet on the way out from back that the castle there as well so the castle won't even hold him that long overall but looking at the base now there goes the town centre for bread the trebuchet is doing their damage and look at this he's just chasing him across the map at this point it's basically a base race oh my god all the villagers are running I know that player 2 is an experienced nomad Blair well he's gonna need to use those strategies now this is just a massacre man he's at 96 population Tim is definitely holding on better but here come the trebs from fact here come the Knights from say my name and Tim could be next it's just a matter of CL helping Tim or CL completely wiping up say my name or both we'll see this is crazy man I'm just kind of figuring out how this is gonna go from here and I guess it's gonna come down to how well Tim can hold this yeah and where the CL kinda needs to move his aggression across and get more of that defense going on or if you can really try and finish off red in general and put some pressure on the back then hopefully the pressure on back in turn will pull the pressure away from Tim yeah but man its base right scenario that's pretty much what it came down to it's worth pointing out that say my name has T C's in the center so he is getting some gold now despite his main Gold's being disrupted and while back to slinging resources now to player two so it's trying to get him back in the game maybe get him to imp then get him to cavalier Tim's losing T sees man Tim's losing villagers Tim's population is higher so he has that but he's not contributing with much that's the problem he's not really doing much he's a few nights but will that do anything against mass wound archers I don't think so I think he needs to get to imp I bet man that's one of those things he does have high a population how long though he's completing notches in his face the worst is yet to come for him whereas Freddie generals been pretty much got it alive yep that's pretty much the extent for him where's Tim this could be the beginning of the end or he might be able to hold it that's what's gonna kind of come down through here yeah and Cl now getting coinage so that is a sign that he will send resources to Tim and CL and Tim are in Beck's base so this will pull back to fact and he should with the castles close by be able to clean this up it's just a matter of time I think CL and Tim since they're kind of traps now they need to be as annoying as possible staying here as long as possible and while the push back at Tim's base now I think that Tim and CL can clean this up turkmen yeah and the way they've kind of set it up if I denied bulk come in they've got the plumed archers behind it the tribes are there you know obviously take out the tribes straight away to kind of stop any push onto their trap kind of happening and they're gonna clean this up pretty quickly here it's definitely not looking good for Vienna yeah 20 more military for CL now as CL is going to build a castle next to all this as he's rubbing down backs forward Castle is it just a matter of time now it's worth pointing out player 2 is on the way to the Imperial age so maybe while Vietnam struggling when he gets imp they'll be able to be ok but man CL with his huge ball of plumes he's all over backs TC I kind of liked the approach to get Tim to make more Knights it seems to have worked here yeah not wrong at all the way this is kind of played out I'm kind of saying this is the way frantic Soraa going soon as they kind of started that base race scenario just hold out long enough and get some nights out and then we can kind of move away from there yeah how many castles is si y'all gonna have now he he's on five castles this dude has been an absolute beast last weekend and this weekend absolute MVP this match is just being able to come through and stomp kind of everything just looking over a red face at the moment I've just seen so many Idol villages over the last couple of minutes look at where he's been forced to expand out to they're just open areas where a couple of nights could really just get in and destroy the entire eco but good engagement going on at the moment well I say good but yeah not for someone it's not very good for Tim you know what this game isn't isn't great for for most people right I think I think Beck's having a hard time the only one is that CL he hasn't taken any damage back at his base he's been on the ball all game and red losing more villagers on his goal he's trying to tech in the cavalier at the moment but will it be quick enough Tim is all in Castle age but okay now the swing comes in so CL will send him some food maybe some gold to Tim will hit him my apologies oh man I'm just looking at this is the one it's essentially a 2v1 scenario as well if you look you've got backed on buddy fifty-two military red on seven yeah you've got Tim on 31 CL on sixty-four it's just it's just so out popped at the moment and being able to use just the nicest bulk even like Calvary worked in there now as well the tribes behind this they can't push in to deal with that it's just gonna be a slow kind of push to the end here yeah I think that it's just a matter of time now right with Tim on the way to the Imperial age and with so many more military numbers back to losing castles they're losing control of every gold pile in the center this is not gonna be easy man but I just want to talk about tal yet again last time around he was used beasting against Leary and Hart and here we are in the semi-finals he's beasting against say my name and backed and this is just Game one of a best of five but man he is he's been so impressive this has been phenomenal gameplay just in general like oh that's it I'm trying to worry what these villagers are doing from say my name towards a bottom of the map here there's kind of some just hanging better yet spotted by all that light cavalry I don't know who's going for something sneaky or just trying to expand out but I have a feeling it's probably not gonna work okay yeah whatever they wanted to do whether it was collect lumber or sneak it's not gonna happen and oh my goodness this fight on the front plume on plume the Knights from Timmer here he's gonna wait for his upgrades though you know what that the big key is seed RAM as well often times when you're trying to deal with wound archers so we do have seed Rams in the mix now for CL which could help absolutely the Knights aren't just acting as the bulk now I put the seed Rams in there to kind of soak up that much as well kind of frees the Knights up to get into a little bit more damage as well and not be quite reserved but at the same time there's just how do you push into this yeah it's tough man it's kind of 50/50 at the moment but to say my name needs to get into the equation with his Cavalier he needs to do it now because Tim's getting his upgrades tim has way more numbers it's just that back doesn't have the numbers now he's only at 50 military versa 83 military of CL he's PopCap's 200 pop he's slinging his ally it is all CL in this game and I think with the seat Rams pushing in now backed he'll lose a castle he'll lose his trebs and this could be the end of the game alright I think we're getting seen ready for a lost and here we've got the Cavalier on the front we've got the plumes there as well trying to clean up those seat Rams as quickly as possible the trebs are sitting behind it I have a feeling this is going to be the fight yeah the trebs deploy on the castle from fact backed has a hill so they need to hold this and Tim's cavalier and blast furnace is completing just as we speak they're both gonna patrol in whom darter be plumed Archer cavalier be cavalier who will win this fight it seems like it's gonna be much better for Francie they've just been in such a good position obviously back to having the hill that going to help but the numbers I just what's gonna win this yeah and I think soon after the gg might be called it seems like the Vietnamese players yeah they're gonna call it now once this Hill is done they are done and that is Game one and what a game run Game one excuse me from frantic a CL and Tim they were so on point with their communication there were a few instances where the Vietnamese guys were kind of out of position where the Vietnamese guys didn't know where to go but CL and Tim they play so well together Turkmen it was crazy you're not wrong that's it being able to push on that palisade at the same time and kind of push in together be able to get into the back of the base they're moved back together the coordination is really kind of what got him ahead in the early game a couple of good snags a couple of good players but that were together that's the thing they weren't poking and prodding by themselves they were using the bulk of their force together and it meant it was so hard for the players to engage them by themselves yeah and obviously this is a team game so you have to give Tim credit because if Tim didn't have the night numbers then CL wouldn't have the luxury of being able to to go for the initiative or go for the forward castles right so yeah CL was kind of the carry role here but Tim is kind of what allowed him to do that but we are gonna move on to Game two next we can't spend too much time talking about this interestingly enough you look at the achievements 199 kills for both the Mayan players that's that's kind of a funny stat right there but look at the Frank players then and and Tim did a much better job at killing units he also did a much better job and not losing units and say my name I feel bad for him because in Game one you don't want a map like that but I do think that he could have done a little bit more it could have been the light Castle age in all honesty he just he just fell behind in numbers game number two will tell you about the map next I'll be coming up within a few minutes everybody you I just got a message from someone on Buble said oMG you're almost 2k I'm not sure if I should be offended anyway man what a game what a game oh hey it was good both players well both teams I should say played a relatively standard game overall but it didn't work out badly we got to see kind of what they can do it'll be nice to see if we get it kind of mixed up a little bit or if both teams kind of go alright that worked or that was close I reckon if we kind of pull it in in this section this section we can kind of go head to head with them or if someone tries to pull something interesting out of the bag yeah I mean in terms of strategies they went for the same strat was just that frantic performed it better so perhaps if your Vietnam legend said I don't think they'd be thinking this but hypothetically if they felt like they were not as good with performing the same meta as frantic they could try and switch up either how they play or what sibs they choose the maps are always different of course so it's important that teams prepare and they know what's what the possibilities are going into each match that's it there's so many options that players have especially in 2v2 and the teams that are really kind of pulling ahead at the moment they're not teams that are playing it as true 1v1 simultaneously they're teams playing the way we saw in that game where together they're bulking their forces they're doing teams strategies and we saw a lot of that in actually the section one we kind of had in this one straight away especially from sy in general they really kind of played out the box but played that team strategy and that's what the teams are really starting to pull ahead yeah man well we'll take this time to chill out a little bit as it cool with you if I give shoutouts to a few people who subscribe to the stream might you do what you need to do all right all right cool so soap Sud soap suds bud thank you for the new sub man Marcus thank you for the prime I had to jam her thank you for a whole year man maybe not he said here because of Dave ouch now I'm kidding thank you for a whole year man appreciate it boner Patrol 77 what a user name keep patrolling dude thank you for the eight months and I think were you were muted yeah oh man well it's a good start I think and we will have Kilimanjaro next okay cool so very open map it is CL but I don't think that he'll be able to wall this up but it is CL I don't know I think he can probably wall up let's see what what map is the hardest to wall auntie forced nothing he could probably wall up that map look it can definitely be done I guess the question is more than anything cuz this is strategy it's kind of work oh so he's really comfortable playing behind those walls even if he doesn't do it at the start when does he decide to go for it yeah well we'll find out it'll be easier for us to know when we see the civilizations so for now man I'm sipping my tea I know it's like 1:00 a.m. for you but it's it's 10:40 a.m. for me which is not that early but normally I only wake up around 10:00 so this is early for me this is my 6:30 a.m. for other people Oh ruff this is I don't even know what this is me I do this like once a month just for escape and yeah I don't think I would have it any other way yeah it's beautiful you know that's serene well Robo man he does it every weekend he has his job and then he's always up at crazy times for Age of Empires 2 you Aussies are crazy it's I've dedication to the game it's one of those things you see it from a lot of people in the community yeah for sure man for sure all right guys welcome we have game number two this is between frantic and Vietnam legends this is in the escaped champions league and last time around Tim and Cl performed very very well and I also think that that Turkmen performed really really well as a co caster so happy to have him haha happy to have him here again for CL we have our sorry for frantic we have CL he's playing as the Malians in the teal or cyan and then we have Tim way across the other side of the map he's playing as the Magyars and we got to keep to the same system here this is kind of like practice games for us because we'll be casting on the escape stream in a few hours I'm gonna let you do the other team then Turk man you can go right on to Vietnam legends no worries for the Vietnam Lee's legends here we get we have say my name in red legacy Magus I'm waiting for that to pop up someone yeah and then obviously in the orange as well we have back playing on the 8th Europe as the Ethiopians yeah so we do not have a mere matchup this time we have Malians and magyars first Ethiopians and Magyars Magyars probably chosen because of the strong Scout rush normally you want someone to go Scouts and someone to go archers but what's interesting is we have Malians and then Ethiopians I think Ethiopians was the shore pick for me here but they went with Malians instead we'll see what tricks CL might have up his sleeve because he'll be up against faster-firing archers on his side that's an interesting case I haven't really seen this map a whole heap in competitive play as of recent yeah I probably big things to note over all ostriches and said a deer pretty much the same over all elephants gonna give you 400 food that's probably the first things to take away if you haven't seen a lot on this map overall goats as well same as sheep so don't really worry about that one too much trees gonna be super super dispersed then obviously as you get towards the top middle of the map I should say it becomes the top of the map so anyone that kind of holds of that error if you're pushing down you will have that hill advantage yep and as you were explaining that I think I might know what the starting plan is for CL at least so it's very it's a very open map right and the wood lines are very difficult to wall for example you look at backs wood line there's one villagers on the opposite side so you would need a lot of Palisades to pull while your wood line and even then you could chop through so one thing Malians are good at is their man-at-arms rush they have that free pierce armor per age so while back to might consider going straight into archers malian man-at-arms could completely destroy him before he gets those archers so maybe we will see that backs might need to consider going for his own man-at-arms kind of as a buffer prior to the archers I I think you pretty on point that with the coal man I really like it cuz the balance in general has a peak for this it should be really strong I mean they've got the buildings costing less wood barracks seems like you said more psi from feudal age so kind of when they get into that man-at-arms play it gives them a really easy ability to kind of transition with that even from dock and then push that out and if you can kind of get in there and do the damage early get get this nitty-gritty or a map like this where it's so open there's so sparse wood lines it's perfect yeah well we'll find out man look at all the water surrounding say my name there's tons of water here I know that's kind of the norm but it's a map that's maybe more walkable than the last one forum if you give all these little choke points we'll find out soon enough and yes Malians are very versatile as the game goes on but you need to think of the compositions the team teams will use so you normally have Scouts and Knights and then you have archers into crossbows or archers in the calves orchards you need a melee ranged combo so that's why Malians for me is a little bit confusing at start because they probably won't be going for their Cavalier later on you'll probably have the Magyar player going for paladin we will find out soon enough there's a few unanswered questions but it won't take long for us to get those answers hot that's seed in the way these games being played they've been shaping up into just phenomenal matches pretty much from the get-go players have been going hard they aren't really giving a lot away we've got back they're pulling in a little bit of extra gold so we know what he's kind of doing with that play barracks getting dropped down by him now and as for CL there comes the barracks as well now let's see if fact makes these man-at-arms yes so he's gonna make a few militia and you know what Ciel's barracks is much later which makes me think all he's going forward he is going forward he might make the militia I'm not sure but he's going forward for at least one tower it's it's beautiful that's what it is we've seen it we've got villages on stone we know what's up the barracks is there and I'm not seeing nope no but on the way as of yet hmm he doesn't seem interesting yeah he does not have the food for it so I don't think he'll be making them no there's one it's perhaps maybe it's just his overall build that was just off but interesting yeah he has scouted the stone so he sees the stone on the right he sees the stone on the left for back we will focus on the left hand play left hand side once they get their stables up and that is my assumption at this point they will be going scouts will back to recognize what's happening here because he does have man-at-arms he it's not like he can't stop this but I don't think he knows about it well that's it I've got his folk of war on at the moment he hasn't actually scouted this he can see the scouts kind of hanging around his gold there try him see what's going on and we got any construction on the way yet no still trying to pick a slot to get aggressive but he haven't he hasn't seen this at all if CL just placed his two towers one there and then the other one to the lacs I don't like that tower I would have liked it more more offensive in between the gold in the stone but he my point is is he can deny both golds and both stones in fact we'll have nothing to go to if he loses them and backs building a mining camp dude he no clue he is no clue as he goes to see Ellis base and Ciel for the most part is protected and walled up that's pretty much perfect timing there as well the second tower comes down right as the first one pops denies that gold or I should say merge that gold anyway the second tower gonna be just by heading pretty much the base in a half there goes the tower gonna try and look no dude you want to see something crazy look below back to wood line what does he have there a gold but he can't see it it the fog of war is is the same of the gold look at that he can't see it so he could have that to fall back on maybe he'll get lucky for now he does not know it's there and he will have to go into skirmishers to stop the towers from CL and while see us going for a ballsy third tower I don't know if you want to go for that one buddy that that's a bit extreme but he is gonna place it and backs is gonna have to place his only defensive tower now he goes for her absolutely he's got those militia at the Scout his to skip misses two arches he should be able to push this back somehow there's no range if and play for CL but he's getting the tower rushed up either way so he is getting at least some idle time and looking over and see else base those men arms really haven't accomplished much CL Heroes is one bill man I mean it's it's not the best to lose a villager there of course at home as you said that the mana norms haven't done anything against CL but when you have hills forward they're not collecting eco and he loses two bells nice defense from back to and on the other side Tim was trying to push him and say my name space he picked off a Vil in the wall and so at least he is offensive now but Tim might be the one who needs to carry a little bit CL did so last time at Tim we'll probably be hearing in teamspeak that the forward has kind of been slowed down [Music] aggressive game which is what we expected on a map like this I just wonder if fact we'll be able to push back and counter-attack at anytime soon with with mainly skirmishers well as soon as he kind of builds that force up he's gonna be in a position to obviously the goal gonna be his big weakness there he hasn't scouted the one behind like you've mentioned that's just such bad luck another tower getting thrown up on the stone they're gonna try and deny that as well may not notice in time as well actually where these village is going or in fact he doesn't have the started do it yeah they're really having to commit there yeah he had to build that one tower to stop Ciel and now he doesn't have the stone to build an additional one so whatever stone he collects here might give him enough to build one more Tower let's see here yeah yeah so he will have just enough to build another tower so good job from him man that's rough when you forced into a situation like that it's good that he got it absolutely it was a very very smart play but still super rough that it's had to happen and he is getting a couple of bulk up here at the moment the blacksmith's getting thrown down he's got the skirmishes and there you go he's found the gold as well so he's in a little bit of a better scenario here so Ciel walls up the towers I think he's going back home a CL is now building defensive towers so I think he'll shift more towards a boom play now might make a few archers but he'll look towards Castle age I backed found the gold in the back so good for him and if he can build the defensive tower there I don't know if he'll be all that exposed though he is making some Spears just in case Tim arrives and look who's coming that's a great timing play it's again that communication just the heads-up the scouts have moved on how are we gonna deal with this get some Spears up so you can be ready for it you have the two Spears that's not gonna be enough here these are maggara scouts I know Tim has a few weak ones but if you micro is this well and he is he will kill the honors and that villagers dead I think for now back to spine though because he's arrived with more Spears but hoof that was that could've been much worse for him it's just really really tight in general yeah the way it's kind of getting played out the aggressions good from both players at the moment they're trying to really push out obviously see I'll really kind of try to hammer it home but we can't see as well the scrim the counter-attack is out from back he's getting a little bit of revenge with the tower coming up on the wood line I didn't this goes let's see how we can kind of push this actually a brilliant tower because he's protected at home with Spears he knows that CL will not have any rain students to come in so he won't need a tower and CL needs wood look at his map he does not have a lot of wood you have to push towards the center for what as the game goes on and if this tower goes up and it will obviously and CL has to leave that wood line which will make matters worse for him economically after already losing a couple villagers early on that's that's amazing tower I love that that's amazing tower it's perfect the way he's kind of played it out here managed to get the hill bonus pushed it away from that main source overall as well and look at where it's had to push him back to right over to the corner of the map it's just not easy no it's it's not Scouts from say my name or in Tim's base will Tim over chop one of these trees it happens sometimes nope he will not and the scouts are weak Tim has a few Spears so I don't think we'll see any pick offs here but you never know with Maggie our scouts and yep say my name arrives kills the spear he'll keep running around players will need to keep an eye on that but I like Viet Nam's position better because backed is making his ideal unit and that is archers and while say my name does pick off one of Tim's villes Maja's get the full wolves up on a map like this as well that's that's an amazing effort to kind of go for he's very safe he's poking is probably against him like you said he's managing to get the picks here and there with the scouts which is phenomenal imagine to get quite a few on those farms actually doing an amazing job just to see his kind of opportunities and take him and there we go it's him on his way to Castle age Tim's on the way to Castle age but he loses another villager here say my name has been on point with the scouts man he's done a heck of a job and though he's late at the castle age I think I'd prefer his position to have three more villagers and be full walled while Tim has not filled at all and Tim does not have an ally that's really in the game because Cialis is just playing defensively with towers well it's only can really do at the moment he's got the double hurry up can't really do too much with it obviously got a couple of the arches kind of hanging around the back there just trying to get some pics trying to that poke and prod see what he can kind of get gonna get attacked by a lion which is a little bit of a shame down the back there but hey he can try and get it on that gold kill off a couple of units but this is really all he can do at the moment yeah and say my name last time it wasn't the best game for him this time around his engagements have looked to be really clean and oh my goodness he'll kill a villager at Ciel's base and he could move on and find other pickoff just wonder once +2 defense comes in once the extra attack comes in on the Scouts which is free does how many more villes will he kill at Ciel's base because CL has no way of defending from this he loses another one goodness gracious what a play from say my name Iran had such an open map that one player if they can get away with those Scouts and get into your base that's just so rough in general there's nothing you can really do to kind of deal with it and backed is looking towards the castle age again he has that gold thankfully and he's defending from CL who moved in with a few archers and that's not gonna work for CL see all those now fletching CL is just behind so I think it's all on Tim now Tim needs to do a lot of damage does he go directly to backspace I think he has to because say my name is Walt right well that's the thing say my name at this point he can't just get in there and do any rating do any damage the acid jizz jump across try and knock another player out of the game and I guess even it up a little bit yeah dude full upgrades on these nights I do not know if fact we'll have the numbers of Spears that he needs at home he only has three Spears for two nights with full upgrades but Tim you know what he's not going to back Seco he's going to help Ciel's army out I guess so CL can keep his archers alive and you know what this could work out because CL could then use these archers to pick off any additional Spears that Beck's might send in so this is the time for frantic Turk man this is the time right now i smart and your idea is the good man if these archers can kind of just sit behind and stop any kind of cost-effective trading that happens use those Knights again just to soak up the bulk and the archers to kind of ping away at those Spears that are out there that's absolutely perfect the thing I'm starting to worry about CL is just so far behind at this point yeah he's very far behind and also I just noticed say my name picked off two more villagers in Tim's base he's coming in with Knights now not just Scouts picking off more villes so they really have to do damage versus backed and backed has a lot of Spears he's killed one night he just needs to hold here and then he's golden I think they might have done just enough here this is looking good for Vietnam oh the man they've managed to push it back and for how long the real question Tim's base Tim can't even afford to go forward anymore he's losing so many villagers say my name is all over the guy and so they took the rig my god I didn't see actually that that box is also getting hit this is crazy this is an amazing level of play hey guys everyone I guess well the thing is say my name is everywhere he's over helping backed out is back over at Tim's base doing some damage there he's just kind of running around doing everything he can to kind of pull this game and look at his score his so far ahead right now his stats are awesome the man - absolutely slanted yeah well if you feel like you're behind if you feel like one guy's out of it you should probably have him sling and that's what's happening right now Tim is receiving resources from CL so CL is building look at these towers man because towers all over his base and he is sending all the gold all the food that he gets over to his buddy Tim see if Tim can carry his team to victory it'll be Tim a verse backed and say my name Tim is a fantastic player but this is gonna be really tough because he's already kind of behind oh it's absolutely rough and we've still got back to kind of just poaching around sales-based trying to get any kind of harassment he can in there trying to make it just as hard as possible and say my name no the scouts in the moon again again that's lit that's he's getting close to 10 Vil kills with these same Scouts now getting such value out of them what a player that's it the efficiency right now it's off the charts in terms of how he's kind of managing to do this one yeah that's man this has just been what you want to say this is someone maximizing every chance they've got yeah well Tim you know ideally would be pushing forward right now but he's in a position where he needs to to help his ally and help himself and I think that's very good for Vietnam because they will have two people fighting in the castle age whereas it'll just be Tim four see it for frantic I keep wanting to call the clients yell it's not the clan name well at the end of the day that's one of those things where it's if it's two versus one player what are you really gonna do about it yeah just man so much more pop to work with so much more just in general the teamwork they can kind display at the unit compositions the options just so much in comparison yeah well say my name has done a fantastic job with with moving his nights in picking off a few villagers as he's doing to Tim now and then running away and this has happened time and time again tim is forced to almost run forward now so that's what he's doing and he's heading over to back space we'll see if he can do anything you know Beck's main TC is just wide open he can't wall that area so I'm sure the Knights can run underneath that but we'll find out soon enough if Tim can bring this back turkmen it it's not looking great but with how open it is it is possible well Beck's got a little bit of a defensive plan at least he's going for the double monastery gettin some monks out can try and get some converts yeah but like you were saying that main TC it's barren there's not a lot there is gold it's got a tower on it end of the day not really gonna save you too much from a whole heap of nitrating but we'll see man one conversion he tries to wall in the monk here this is nice he fails with that but he gets one conversion dude III don't know if that's enough for him but then look at Tim's face look what he's about to have to deal with say my name and back to come or what that is a lot of nights man this is just ridiculous kind of the tide not even the teamwork at this stage it's the fact they've put themselves into such a better position after the starting point I I didn't know how I felt I really thought sail was gonna be in a good position from the start here but he just didn't manage to do the damage and recover quick enough yeah look at this I don't know if facts crossbows really helped all that much tim has the home-field advantage and he's not doing too bad assuming here's the resources to make more Knights he might be a madness no they'll lose out on the fight but it's just backed it's getting destroyed I honestly feel like box now at 30 villagers Ciel at 53 as long as Tim doesn't die in al frantic will be ahead it's like end of the days yeah actually absolutely right just looking at the raw stats yeah back ties gonna Ram out so it's looking like he will try and kind of client cleanup these towels around base at the moment but Tim oh man it's rough I mean the thing is I think he was a little bit too hasty with that last attack you know he's receiving resources he's building more stables now I don't know if he needed to fight that last one and he might live to regret that but he's making more nights now he needs to make up the twenty military gap between him and say my name and I think fact needs to send whatever resources he gets which is gonna be very little to say my name because he's the really really the only one that matters at the moment man just watching this it is just getting brutal just military buildings getting taken down we've got that TC on the front now that's at risk as well peebs our stables towards the back that not sure if he's gonna be able to get to pump in time what are we at word 21 he's trying he's trying and he's getting tons of food and tons of gold that that's the thing CL has 56 villagers and everything those villagers bring in gets sent to Tim so Tim should have a stronger economy than say my name to make these nights this is doable for Tim this is doable for frantic Tim I don't want to call it a calculated risk because I don't think you can really even calculated it was definitely just a flat-out risk to send numbers to backspace might pay off here as backed is is pretty much out of the game for now like CL was moments ago it's one of those things where it's getting into that territory where this is just messy and we absolutely love it what's gonna happen from here we're not sure say my name is pushing and tried to damage wherever he can you've got sales just slinging Tim trying to get him up into the air to be able to compete up we'd say my name yeah backed is you and what back does kind of just cruising around a couple crossbows doing the damage you can but CL it's not in that wall off as well yeah Tim just needs to be patient here because oh my god the nights are moving in there's so many monks from say my name if he gets five conversions plus the healing I still think that being on Legends can hold this man again it's so tough to call with so many nights and so many more coming from Tim I'm looking at the numbers here guys it seems like Tim could clean this up he cleans cleans up the monks and he has more Knights coming out is he gonna push this back I'm watching the numbers just pick down and down and down they go the crazy man more Knights on the way for say my name but again Tim is closer Annie's receiving those resources I think if he pulls back for a moment and then goes back in they'll be on even terms with numbers and they might be able to do this it is possible say my name just sling just know I'd often night across the map at the moment just using man he's putting up extra stables well an extra for at the front there he doesn't want to lose this one what a freaking hold and the guy as far as I know he's not receiving much sling from backs I could have missed it of course but still obviously Tim's receiving a lot more and still say my name is able to hold a man just look at the importance of the monks you see these Knights here they're all getting healed up Wow and you know what he could go for a forward castle and here he comes Turkmen he's gonna build a forward castle this is rough man if he has that as a staging point to kind of push for it really means Tim's gonna have to go for it now yeah and Tim just can't I I thought that since he was receiving the resources he would be able to catch up there but either I misjudged it or say my name has just been beast mode and I think it's a little bit of both there he's at 40 military and there's the castle Tim you're right he has to fight this now to stop it but he does not have the numbers to fight this basically say my name's just done a brilliant job of forcing the engagement here it has to happen yeah and here we go yep lo-lo's from both players castles on the way up saying my name just has more numbers and Tim receiving pool sling is getting pushed back once the cast goes up he can just diet this rate because the T sees mean they offer very little protection as is but the stables could go down what a play from say my name has been incredible this game he was taking every opportunity he can the man the efficiency had with those Scout shows you what type of game he was playing here it was out to kind of pick every advantage he could yeah and the GG is called no surprise what a game from Vietnam legends they needed that they tie it up with frantic and the semi-final it is now one to one that is a redemption story that is a small comeback story there because say my name in the first game struggled so much man he had the former Gold's he was exposed this time around though he showed what he can do he walled up the whole freaking map which is crazy and there are so many impressive moments from him these groups of Knights and scouts that kept moving in and out picking off hills and running away it really kept him on the run Tim only used his faster castle edge advantage once he only used his sling advantage once and that was when he hit backed but saying my name was so good that Beck's losing 20 to 30 villagers just did not matter what a play and also on the other side we barely had time to look at it Beck's was was pushing in with a cow so on CL which is the play when someone's swinging like that okay so here the achievements Tim with more kills and more units lost because he was the only one fighting for his team that makes sense and I'm really I really want to stress just how big this is because say my name he had more food more wood and more gold that's amazing that's amazing he was up against the guy who was receiving sling and could add villagers into his economy I was really impressed with how he played this game man it's just made a good play in general both games and we've kind of seen a lot to pull away a lot of its been due to that strategy but man it's been great yeah great games I mean obviously both teams deserve to be here and we will see game 3 next guys if you're just joining the stream for some reason you just skip through all the YouTube videos or the YouTube video to get here welcome thank you guys for watching today ah this is this is BBQ turkmen everyone's saying beer hey hang food man we can we don't get food what is this I'm disappointed by this but interestingly enough did you see the picture I sent you in discord look at that let me know what's wrong with it you should definitely just tell me what's wrong with it I I don't see what's wrong with it I don't get it all right so what are those what are those Spears up to Oh interesting they're attacking no Knights are scouts oh you can see night sir scouts know so far sounding a little bit confused there by some of the night writing in scary Jose oh that's why those villages are dying that is quality coke casting from barbecue Turkmen he didn't see any Scouts or knights on his screen and he didn't say a word he did not want to distract you guys from the big picture oh my god that's that's ridiculous man this game the first game was fine first game was absolutely fine huh so you're gonna have to fix that I'm working on it right now okay all right that's cool man if you need like to mute your mic or whatever for a few minutes is well that's fine that's hilarious well yeah there were a few ghost riders out there I guess definitely what it was I was just like hanging around being like oh is it big so I had you a stream up on the side as well I like flicking between both like man that is a lot of nights yeah yeah I didn't even know so you did a good job man well played role playing grandma thank you very much for the four months he said next game auntie force nothing I don't know man you got to be quiet with that there's a lot of people whom I try it little bear Slade thank you very much for four as well welcome hello kay the foodie mr. jr. hope Knight thrower what's up everybody I see to see the whole chat welcome again we will have a best-of-five hit while we're casting the best-of-five between frantic and vietnam legends it's all tied up one two one will move into Game three in a few minutes and then later on today we'll have sy in Suomi which is the best of five and then the grand final which will also be a best of five between the winners of the semies so lots of expert age of empires to be choose today and it's been nothing but quality the whole time as well we haven't seen a player underperform of just same players absolutely overperform yeah it's been awesome and I think you had predicted three to one for this series right you gave an edge to France that's it I I probably would have given an edge to frantic as well so we will see i think after watching the first two games wouldn't wouldn't surprise me to see it go to the final match and it's best-of-five so what I have up on my screen right now is the overall standings of the escaped Champions League it's a pretty complicated event that spans over the course of a year so I understand what people probably are new to all this as we've only been doing this for a month or two now so the way it works is there's different sections of the event there's been four V fours one B ones we're currently in to b2 and so players win prize pool money for placement so if you get semies and final and so you get prize pool money you also get points so if you look at the overall standings secret is at the top with 15 points because they perform pretty consistently with the first placings and the fifth with just one fifth placing sy is in second with nine points so those are the two teams that have performed the most consistent and then we have frantic and then we do have vietnam legends here we will see suomi later on today so so well me and sy maybe things will change there but this is something to keep in mind the big picture is whoever's top two in the standings at the end of the year which will be next year but it'll be I think August or maybe it ends in July I'm not sure on the exact day but it'll be sometime next summer then they advance to the land final so they will be playing up on stage with casters next to them that'll be a lot of fun I can't wait to be there oh we got a candy absolutely beautiful oh yeah we got a game perfect oh you do I'll be back all right man yeah if you had like I said if you're trying to sort out your issues no worries we'll figure it out all right ladies and gentlemen welcome to game number three this is between Vietnam Legends and frantic and this is a best of five this is the semi-final and it's it's been a really close series Game one they went for the same thing and it was just that CL and Tim executed better game to Vietnam legends ate a slightly different strategy as did as did frantic and Vietnam legends ended up winning out we have Sahara for game number three and I will introduce everyone I assume Turkmen when you're when you sort out your technical difficulties just let me know imma I'll let you back into things here we have back to the orange he's playing as the Britons and then his ally in the red is red playing as the Berbers up against him then is yel playing as the Mongols and the teal and then in the green we have Tim tim is playing as ethiopians another open map another map where you need to pay attention to the hills and the golds in the center area and you know just looking at the SIVs Turkmen do you mind just like muting your mic just while you're typing if that's cool I'm done we're good oh you're good okay sweet yeah I hope yeah you hope yeah we'll fight that very soon Ethiopians and Mongols just trying to think how this would play out on Britain's and Berbers they're almost like Britons and Berbers better you have the Briton player go archers and have the Berber players go Knights and camels I guess I guess we'll find out how this how this ends up going I'm just really curious Mongols will have that faster scout rush and they have that the strong Imperial age with the manga die however castle age can be awkward with them at times and Ethiopians I guess then they'll be going archers for her frantic so are you in the game is it working for you now I am caught up ready to roll mate did you see the starting scouts last time or just no scouts so no Scouts I am pinging around at the moment trying to find them all make sure they're all there what if we go don't attend turn a little cool all right so we've got the Scout or I had the scout from say my name I'm gonna do a quick thing around you keep going okay from there hey I mean if you if you see one scout I think you'll be good Oh anyway yeah good point from soaring ostrich in the twitch chat here he said he'd rather have Ethiopian archers and Britons I I think that Ethiopian archers are potentially better because of the faster firing speed sure it depends on how the players utilize them but the big question mark I have here is over Mongols if their scout rush is successful and then their full wall behind that is successful which we know CL is capable of and as map will certainly help and maybe but normally you have players investing into a lot of knights and lots of camels and Mongols while they get cavalier and heavy camel they don't get the final defense upgrade so you almost always have the transition into manga die early I'm just I'm just wondering I mean it's something to think about as this game goes on will that be tough for CL because you have say my name on the other side and he can go for full camels full Knights a full Cavalier and they're cheaper but the bases are relatively wala bull Turk man if you look at CL he's already balling on the front and he has golden stones behind you look at say my name he can at least secure his main gold at the start and lots of bloodlines and same even for back to your safe gold so would lines really help with the walls and then Tim he could wallet as well so this might this might be I guess a more secure game for the players well after the last game and it could definitely be used with a break off the kind of what we've seen there so it was a very aggressive one so to get them back in the card to do styles that comfort with overall we can kind of move from there and see exactly how they do decide to play it out that said I'll be right back cuz I'm missing some Hmong gold scouts oh really okay man that's cool that's such a weird bug you know I remember there was a community game a while back you guys wear oh geez see that Thank You men I remember there was a community game a while back where someone couldn't see units or TCS I think he could control things but he couldn't see any units there's a really weird bug see if I just gifted 20 subs in the twitch chat and I said I was gonna wait to shout out alerts but for 20 subs man I gotta acknowledge that thank you see dad let's get the hype going in the chat let let's go here game three this is the first best of five of many best of fives come today let's do this I'm looking at the eCos now backed is surely going for archers here yeah he's going for archers and then Tim he's going for archers as well so expected Cl he is up there we go going for scouts and then I imagine say my name will be going for scouts of course he'll be slightly slightly later than the Mongol player so faster start for frantic will Mongols work will Mongols work that is the big question you have Mongols verse Berbers then so even if he go into manga dies Mongols he could be completely wrecked by the camel archers that Berbers can make so of all the sides to focus on focus on the left-hand side that will be the biggest thing for me all right archers will take a while to mass Scouts they have a more immediate effect CL with the faster feudal got the faster speed got the extra attack and killed say my name's Scout and oh there's a hole here he won't be able to pick up any bills though I don't think and the art burb reveals as well so they can just run run buddy you know what if that wasn't a Berber vilette's a dead Vil I didn't think ol nice move from CL to dodge there but I really didn't think that he'd be able to pick off the Vil but he got so many hits and before say my name realized but that's not a big deal a spear comes out walls are going up just that CL will be sending more scouts across so you have to keep an eye on it oh wow he sent a weak villager out here as well and yeah he's just making sure he's full Walt there's a gap there too his backs full Walt seems like it Tim for Walt even adding the stone gate and CL is stone hauling up you see the difference guys you see how early the frantic players go for stone walls it's a big investment you might need towers you won't be able to build towers if you put all your stone into walls a frantic they like to be secure they like to feel safe I guess and who can blame them it's just the gold that's awkward for CL the wood line actually could be an issue of archers come over here later on but he is so much back here for a free boom this main gold is gonna be tough and I hate to judge a top player who's way better than me but that is a disgusting mining camp if you more than just a few villagers on this mining camp that'll be pretty inefficient but who needs who who needs to know how to play some mining camp when you know how to play stone walls I guess very cautious start and now the stone walls going up for four back to what she should do this shouldn't concern him but it's concerning me yep they'll be able to get that walled up and a forward spear and a wool floor from say my name finally pushing out across the map but what we'll likely see is the scouts won't be able to get through the walls what they will do is accompany the archers so backed will have his archers Tim will have his archers and the scouts will need to be there as a buffer desert foxy welcome to the stream and he said how many matches are going to be shown today so we have this best-of-five then we'll have a best-of-five between sy and finland also known as suomi and then we will have the winner of those best of fives in a final which is also best of five so lots of games potentially 15 games today that wouldn't surprise me if every set went to the final one so it comes down to your economy behind this attack how fast your castle time is and then of course some areas you might be able to pressure like this for example you see say my name on stone early which I didn't expect here maybe he's thinking about camel archers sooner rather than later but Tim can obviously arrange that and then the arches from backers still at home so frantic are being slightly more aggressive in CL does click up faster to castle Age it's pretty incredible how good CLS and team games and 1v1 s-- he almost shocked Cleary in the king of the desert ornament with his insane like castle aggression but this guy is just solid he is just solid he rarely makes mistakes he always knows where to wall where to be and obviously his economies good despite the mining camp which bothered me and he will go for one stable nights at least that's what I believe he could always add another stable and now they're pressuring say my name we're as frantic is not being pressured at all so it's very important that when you wall you're aware of the areas you're vulnerable and it's very important that if you're not running forward you're at least communicating that's your teammate because back staying at home has really put his ally under pressure you have to be so consistent at this level and yeah Here Come a few stone walls on this side from say my name so Ciel's Nights actually quite like the approach to not go for two stables because I don't know if that'll be all that necessary so he'll probably send them to accompany Tim's archers Tim is later to the castle I sure will be later to the castle a turn back so fact I have a huge ball Britain archers and here he comes so I don't know I mean backed with extra archers and Ciel on the other team with last night's that could spells trouble for Tim Tim needs to be very careful with his numbers he's already slightly behind not only to the castle age but in the total military count there's TC from CL he purchased some stone and yes he will build another one so this TC will be on stone which is important to keep in mind will he go from manga die it will just be Knights and camels from say my name I think he went to stone early because he wanted to Stonewall not because he wanted to go to cam largers that would be way too early and this is what I'm talking about back to hits Castle age he gets one Archer kill and he's close to getting a second one now Tim is either House Walter stonewalled so he's pretty secure here and you do need to be careful if you're backed because the Knights could be on the way from CL and they are but CL doesn't have a lot of upgrades doesn't seem like he's too concerned with making a lot of military it's gonna be all on Tim so I'd say in Castle age Vietnam legends can really push with this Civ combo and then in the Imperial age maybe still not sure what CL will be going for but maybe that will be an advantage for frantic but even this makes a lot of sense yeah a lot a lot of sense and I can see everything and I am so happy you have alright awesome how do they look how does it feel to see these Knights and scouts again my it's nothing indifferent I feel like I could I feel like I could fly I could gallop even happiness yeah alright well you know this is this pretty much proves my point here I guess Tim building a siege workshop you don't often see that this early in team games normally you're relying on your allies Knights to come save you and not your own Mac and else Tim is he's lost a few crossbows and backs could kill the archery range he's halfway done with it and here comes the military back from CL and from Tim and this this will probably force back the way box is kind of at the bottom of a hill here and Tim's about to finish ballistics there's no Knights here from say my name Turk so this creates again we're falling into one of those two v1 scenarios and it's just saying everything get cleaned teamwork gets you that we've been talking about entire match yeah and here come say my name but it's too late now a faster firing crossbows and ballistics now for Tim however no there's a lot of upgrades for saying my name so he could completely surround the crossbows and he does very few upgrades on CL but I'd say that that was good for frantic that's what they needed just looking across the map now sir I'm just getting caught back on so we're seeing footballs from pretty much everyone so we've got into that kind of comfort zone we saw in Game one from both players some really similar combinations obviously just crossbows instead of plumes here a lot of upgrade advantage are you completely right and looking at that that said getting closer and closer but obviously the bloodlines looking pretty good yeah I mean CL has more villes but he has less military this is why the Mongols pick is so confusing to me because you want to boom more than McKnight's and it's not helping them now backed has that eight range with his crossbows he's about to complete ballistics and say my name is destroying the crossbows from Tim this is exactly what the Vietnamese players needed man this is phenomenal I just again good team played they've got they're just ups in the right places they know what they're kind of committing to and like you said the Mongol player they want to go for that boom and in kind of going in that it just means there's not really much that he can do to help out and that's kind of what we've seen Tim trying to hire it like hold his own here and then the Mongol play not have enough to kind of come to the rescue when he needs it yeah I just wonder and I hate to be this negative twenty five minutes into a game but I just wonder why Mongols if you can choose Berbers why not select Berbers here because Berbers are obviously better than Mongols and income say my name and back to they're really paying the price here Tim needs to hope for a maganet shot and that that won't even work because box sees this he splits away from it and he will finish off the mag Annelle Tim's in trouble and with that range bonus as well on the crossbows it becomes easier and easier to do sales moving in to try and help out hibbott now there's no crossbows to aim yeah exactly and oh oh my god oh my god you know his say my name was attacking that archery range for quite a while there he lost a lot of HP that can change things whoa they go cleaned up real quick yeah and there's only four left now and backs crossbows will die because of that douses a mistake from say my name you look away for a second and it can change the entire game Wow but he is coming in with more nights and we'll clean it up but this might be what they need to kind of get back into with that oh man just sitting back - out of the fight a little bit like this a little bit all right gonna make it a little bit harder to kind of pull it again I'm sorry I didn't realize the Tim's wood line also is getting destroyed there these Knights just came out of nowhere from say my name and that's coming back in you know Tim placed a stone wall just so the reinforcements couldn't continue in from Vietnam it's still looking good for Vietnam and I mean all the pressure they have right now the feel difference tim is way by behind backed in the boom there's so many elements to this there's just looking bad for Viet are sorry for a frantic and very good for free geez I can't speak man I can't speak Vietnam that's what I wanted to say we got there and that's what matters men even looking at the village accounts right now for back to about 73 say my name is 66 over for frantic CL at 79 and Tim at 60 it's time it is still tight yeah it's just I'm really curious when we see a castle or if we see a castle from say my name because this is around the time when CL with the strong boom would be thinking about his castle going to imp and going to manga die and if say my name does the same CL will have no advantage because the camel archers are the counter to the manga die you know yeah it's I I guess it's to pick up some rough as well and that's kind of what you were saying right at the start kind of getting behind that choosing Mongols wears it kind of stem from what I've been really interesting to kind of understand if they had like a team strategy they wanted to go for if they just had a specific play they were thinking boys showed up and ruined ever yeah and someone in the twitch chat says wouldn't mongols be better than Berbers when siege comes into the picture well sure but will they be dead before that point right there's different stages where sips have advantages there's there's dark age there's futile age there's early castle age where sips are better than saves in late castle age and then there's early imp there's there's late imp and then there's post full trade imp and that is when mom goes would be better but I don't know if they can get there think you're getting a castle here from back to right on the front yup good man and look he's on his way to the Imperial age as well this is this is looking rough for frantic man and there we go it's well double Autry on the front this is getting ya rough is the word to use here they're gonna be pushing there's not really too much they can use to push it is they've got the hill they've got an extra stone the good and extra gold on there to kind of work with the double cross I was on the front coming up from the arteries that's gonna be an issue in itself to deal with yeah the reinforce is gonna be so quick CL is making a lot of knights perhaps knowing that Tim's behind in numbers and that he needs to get lucky with a good fight and he'll send them forward say my name sees them kind of runs away a little bit and might run underneath Beck's castle and there's nothing that CL can do to fight the army on the hill next to Beck's castle there's just nothing and that's the reason this is so brutal right now what can you do to push into this that extra range about to pop in as well foot back so it's gonna be able to push the advantage even further of course árboles can be on the way after that longbows coming from the castle though this is man oh yeah I mean even if he didn't want to get our blessed chemistry and bracers these crossbows would be getting more range and CL is thinking I need to hit back before he hits the Imperial agent need to hit his eco well he's already there buddy he's already there and if backs can just quick wall up his base he won't take too many villager losses to these Knights and then Tim will just die cuz Tim will have no help whatsoever he don't love Tim can hold on even then he's made some good defensive choices whose places buildings well he's got the siege workshop in the manga Nell out but at the end of a manga Nell only has 7 ranged against foes with 9 yeah I take that back the other list so it just makes it such a hard thing to be able to defend with like the manga Nell as is some good marker with crossbows in any kind of situation you can get away with it this just makes it easy yeah in fact did a great job walling up his main base and telling his allied to come help him and here comes say my name making sure he won't take any losses Oh Tim has crossbows here though this is interesting Tim comes out of nowhere with these crossbows so frantic can actually win this fight for a moment but this is people fights man won a few fights that they're winning that's it and at the end of the day is it going to be enough as well because they're cutting through pretty quickly here obviously making a little fancy let's kind of do it they canvass buzz but the trebs are out that battering rams are out it's a beginning in the end for Tim yet I mean I will say we probably shouldn't count out frantic because it is frantic these are the guys who they rarely resign early you know they always feel like they have a moment and Tim is on the way to the imperial age but still I'm just wondering what will CL do he's going for Knights it seems into cavalier know castles so he's sticking with cavalier which will be worse than Berber cavalier as say my name will be clicking that upgrade in a moment so maybe it's just a matter of of holding out a tennis base and pushing a little bit pure Ciel with your cavalier advantage I don't know man it's just worrying like even looking at the skirmishes trying to put up against these ah bless the 10 range I think you've got a push into it that's the thing they're getting so many hits in there for free and with the rams backing this up as well oh yeah nagging l3 trebs you know the Macan else from Tim actually did okay they're considering but the trebs are coming forward still the ARBs arranging everything Ciel he needs something he needs something and maybe it is manga die he's building his second castle or sorry his first castle now having a look at Tim's base I'm still watching this fight happen now and really Tim is holding it um like what's-his-face is flying it's a little bit different story the thing is he did have it reduced just siege equipment there just Rams and trebs so he was doing an alright job but look at how quick that Town Center goes down this three trebuchet is there man yeah see yeah looks like he's trying to get forward there a little bit he's got the castle coming up on the hill he's got Cavaliere he's gone down with the town centre on the goal just south of the castle as well so he's trying to kind of pull that one there but I just watching this Tim's just getting gutted yeah Tim loses the University I was researching chemistry as well so he'll be without that upgrade not that that would have helped if CL doesn't arrive soon the Tim will just get to feed it back here he's kind of walled into this corner and even if CL arrives then CL gets gutted by by saying my name as say my name is building his castles and he's adding trebs and he has better cavalier guys again the plate parting Armour is so huge and that is not something Mongols get say my name literally getting him I guess out of position here CLL literally bringing the cavalry taking out the trebuchet is taking out the battering rams he will clean this up but say my name coming in to kind of finish this one off I guess if there can be a big fight here in the middle that's gonna say a lot yeah this is not the first time say my name has been a little bit out of position I have to say and that's an expensive loss for backed he loses his trucks he loses capped rams and Tim goes great I'll just build a castle on the front and just just stall here I guess there's no way right surely there's no way Franta can come back with it that was that was a good start oh well that's the thing it's what needed to happen they got the expensive stuff so they kind of turned the tide a little bit there but we've got heavy cat heavy camel to CL kind of coming out here so looking to kind of turn the tide there a little bit plus ballistics so trying to move on a little bit but Tim how are you gonna what's your plan here he's gonna have some skirmishes got a couple of mapping & L's I end of the day though there's a blitz gonna just cut it man just sorry quickly yeah how is Tim gonna get back in this because he needs to break this strangle hold the back to go don't won at the moment and I don't know exactly how it's gonna do it without saying my name kind of moving in and being able to take the brunt of it I mean they had one good fight frantic they need about six good more good fights in a row now Ciel's castle on the hill is dying and you up there the camel archers from say my name so home mixing Kamel archers with this Cavalier murmurs are so much better than Mongols at this stage and Cl is running around and he's just slowly losing HP on his Cavalier because he can't fight and we're back in the same situation we were to Ken Tim Holtz doesn't look good that's it they kind of made a little bit of a push there for it try to really break out of it and just got shut down it wasn't quick like we did have a few wins their overall frantic in a long row like they came they got the siege they got the castle up on that hill but they've been pushed back into that same hold and that's where I'm really worried that they're not gonna be able to break out of this mold they've basically been a ever already set for them yeah and again just just watch I'm pretty sure with with the numbers that say my name has he could probably fight this first two camels because he has played farting I I rarely see Mongol camels without play farting you know flight first cavalier with full upgrades but the play parting is the most important upgrade most times but anyway unless last night is not the most important Turkmen we have the right inside fight I'm just looking at the castle and the walls that are coming up now from back on the left of Tim's base there he wants to force everything he can kind of threw that strangle between the two castles delay everything you can is getting more stretched days out for both castles the siege on the front as well this is yeah the camels are just melting to these herbs man so many have died Tim's repairing his castle not looking good great before it's even begun I think they just Foley away before I can get even get into range to target pull them back and the same goes for the Ovilus and the skirmishes of Tim though look at them and just the odd let's just go and hammer the fist on them and all they're doing is cavalry yeah the camels are not good enough and this is what I thought in feudal a just thinking we're gonna get to this stage at some point CL calls the gg Tim calls the gg is very rare I say this but I genuinely feel like this Civ pick was one thing that puts CL in this tough position he played well he hit castle each faster if he had Berbers this would have been a completely different game you gotta prepare you have to strategize you have to think about what Sid you have available and while the game was was good for CL I think that the reason Tim fell behind was because CL couldn't really offer that much with his civilization well he bride tried to come to the rescue whenever he could he really did try and they got lucky and a lot of those just combats in general by it's just because say my name wasn't there so it could kind of win it out overall but that's the thing he couldn't lend the support that was necessary he had nothing to really push into that those camels in general were just getting killed before they could even begin the engagement with any kind of cavalry so that wasn't really helping the counterplay there I am I'm not sure how they could have really done it any differently either yeah exactly yeah going back to the drawing board at the start exactly yeah I mean they played well considering this situation right so there's the KD pact played extremely well 177 kills for him that is game two for Vietnam legends and we'll toggle through the Eco stats briefly here before we move on to Game four writer I'll look at the clip later on that I'll look at the clip later on he's he clipped my he clipped me miss speaking that's what he did trust me I always go back and look at the clips the other day Turk man I I sang that duh that baby shark song do you know that one oh I do and if you do I do it on um so I accidentally sang that one stream and there were about a hundred clips so I couldn't deal with it man but at the same time now look you're it you're an hour and forty in and that's the first one for an hour audio black nothing looking you're smashing that's true yeah 99% of the time I'm spot-on all right uh cheese Siva thanks again chat I know that this happens while we're in the middle of that game but if we could get some love in the chat some some of the new sub gift emotes in the chat Thank You si VAD C VAD has not only supported me with that but he supported me in in many other ways as well thank you man seriously si VAD is the only person well the only fan that I have seen in the wirey making helps I'm not making Knights t-shirt by the way he tweeted that to me I thought that was freaking hilarious I didn't yeah seriously a benevolent bloke thank you for the Prime Mulan McNugget sauce whoo that's an awesome name right there thank you for the prime Z to the ultimate thank you and northern Swagger he said great play from frantic over both rounds yes except for that last game except for that last game he did say that two minutes ago so I guess he's thinking that frantic will come back in game number four you that's the thing I'm keen I want all these games to be a long series we've been getting nothing but like quantity game after quality game after quality game yeah and the more of it were kind of saying the more that's getting out there that's just a treat for everyone in the community to be able to watch this stuff and see this kind of the peak level we've kind of hit with everything at the moment it's fantastic yeah it's exciting stuff man I never really expected the community to be where we're at years ago so every day I do this it's it's kind of a blessing it's amazing ah Matt you look back in it and especially for such an old game as well fasik built up from where it was not saying it was in a bad spot the community it's been absolutely amazing for the last decade the people in it and the work that gets done around it it's something else in general what people are able to do with this and the passion everyone has for it we're finally at the point where the numbers of viewers and the numbers of players even really gives credit to the game right we obviously have always had very dedicated members but the boom over the past two years is what Age of Empires 2 deserved right so uh it's one of the most classics of all time' to see it kind of get back into this level that attack now it's nothing but beautiful like I was in the wrong generation appreciate it when it was that basically its peak I was too young for that yeah being able to say it again now like it's close enough I'm just stoked yeah same here man arch kook thank you for the prime dude he said I watch you on YouTube all the time welcome to the stream thank you we have three or four minutes so I'll hang out with you guys it's very difficult for me to talk to chat when we're focusing on so many high level games and when I have a co-commentator sign I'll normally save that for in-between games today but all the high level action will be here later on I'll be hosting the escape stream so this is streamed twitch.tv slash escape a wee but since I wasn't on the schedule for the first half of the day I'm streaming that here with Turkmen and then I will host that stream and then we will continue on so Turkmen and I will be together all day that's it we wanted to get that sink on you up with doing it we're gonna do a bloody right yeah man we're not even in final form chat we are not even in final form I haven't had any very much left yeah I haven't even had any coffee I decided to save my coffee till we go to the escape stream that way I'm fully energized I'm provider that's how the high Poppins yeah I'm prepared right that you flared out this is a strategy say this is the thing you pick in your coffee is your doing well dude I just bought a bunch of like different types of coffee like I don't even know the names of them but I'm really excited to try them out they're probably gonna be awful because it was on discount so you know they're like ah this sucks we need to get rid of it or no one's buying this we need to get rid of it but ma I'm pumped for the coffee later on dude if you find a gem in there though that's the thing you'll be stuck with now though because that kind of discounting and getting weird like I can never find this brand again this is this is where my peak is that's true yeah maybe it's maybe it's quality and there's like a special ingredient that's illegal so they're trying to sell all of them before they get caught whoo well I don't know what they're putting in a coffee man but I'll try it yeah man it's America you never know what's and never know what's inside of the food and coffee I look well we just had a massive scare that we had needles inside strawberries at some of the supermarket's so you guys me needles in strawberries needles in strawberries like if anyone in the chat feel free to look that out it's actually a big thing going on at the moment I mean I knew that almost everything on the top 100 list of things that can kill you is in Australia but I did not know that you would find needles and strawberries that that's crazy oh man I opened a pack today and I was like cotton into it and someone in my house just said hey man just so you know there's needles and those of them I was like oh wait cut these extra small oh I love strawberries that's I'm never going to be able to eat strawberries with it was a scary moment he again yeah geez so guys with me is a barbecue Turkmen so barbecue Turkmen he is one of the first early youtubers for Age of Empires 2 he now works for forgotten empires which is you're heavily involved you're kind of the community manager rights here you're meeting it up on Twitter and Instagram and staying involved with with the community members so that's it apparently that's how you get in touch with the kids these days only one is memes I don't get it I mean I get it I love some memes yeah you're right I completely get it I'm alone yeah all you have to do is look at the t90 do and t90 boys email and you know I love memes wait wait wait in the zone where that generation Martian thank you for the $5 tip he said I can't believe after math and tyrants secret aren't in the semi-final I know ma'am and they they deserved to lose that's just how competitive these games have been so I'm really excited now as we're looking towards Game four between frantic and via Legend's all right ladies and gentlemen welcome to game number four this is between Vietnam legends and frantic I will start off with introducing the Vietnam legends team and in the orange in the south we have backed fact is playing as the Italians and his ally then is of course say my name who's playing as the Indians this map is rift islands and with me I have the legends barbecue Turkmen my you humble me every single time you talk towards the east of the map playing for frantic we have a CL in the teal playing as Spanish up towards the north we'd have his partner Tim playing in the green as the Malay interesting interesting yeah so different SIVs it's a very different map as well so I'll just touch on it for those that have never seen it before you start with a pointy boy as your as your scalp so it's a slower scouting experience but you have a different lip sensual and you start with that as the Scout which actually is quite important there are tons of zebras in the center of the map which players will be going out to collect and also there is the water aspect around the outer edge that water does extend towards the center and if you look at this sand here this is what we'll call quicksand I guess ships can go on this so that means if you were to dock in this location near back spear for example you could send a navy towards the center whether that be demos ah fire ships galleys and who knows so there's tons of elements I mean economically Turkmen you have to focus on the food in the center to start then maybe the fish on the outer edge then the rest of your economy is starting around your TC and then with military is it gonna be water is it gonna be Lance can you full wallets map so many questions well that's the thing it's only kind of been introduced to the pool recently so we don't know how it's gonna get played and this was really the first kind of games we're seeing it get developed on so other notes as well you've got the Rhinos obviously two of them per player just looking at it all 400 food a piece and then yeah it's a matter of when players do decide to move out to that set up the relics as well all in that center area and really towards back there actually as well it's backed and Cl yeah a little bit of an advantage there I would say ah but looking ATS one of those things where there's so much food in the middle who decides to push out do you take it what's the kind of game plan here and we haven't seen much from it yeah well I'm looking at the SIVs and I'm going to try and guess what we will see here I think that they'll still stick to their traditional setup so we'll probably see Indians go archers maybe Italian our sorry Indians go scouts and Italians go archers for Vietnam I am pretty damn sure that Cl is gonna fool wall this base and go for conquistadors I'm pretty certain of that because it is it is seal and there's no other reason he would choose Spanish here though we could go Scouts into conquistadors or something T Tim you know he could go archers as the Millay he could also go for water as Malay we do see the docks coming up from everyone now at virtually the same time so that's a Teletubby sesh but there's we'll have to see how it plays out obviously Turkmen because it's it's gonna be crazy yeah do you think it plans are actually gonna push out to the middle here do you think though risk moving forward to try and get all up the food or do you think they're gonna kind of sit home really try and utilize the water aspect of the map and kind of wall up behind that and not really worry about the Zebras in the middle well they're not going for right now which is kind of interesting I've seen probably five games at this level on this map and every game I've seen the other teams have gone out for the zebras so maybe the the Vietnamese and Chinese players have developed a new strategy hmm I mean also if you want a fast castle in Ciel's position you kind of need those zebras so it's kind of weird he hasn't gone out there you know what it is is they want to go for the doc first because the doc will pay off better in the long run so you'll go for the fishing yes first and then maybe at some point you in fuel age go out there to the zebras and just protect your villagers with Spears or sperms or whatever you might need that's not a bad idea actually I think that's the thing at the end of the day it is a gamble kind of moving out there yeah if you do get pushed away from it you lose your source of food and you kinda have to figure out how you gonna build up away from that obviously whereas if you kind of move out a little bit later on and kind of start to abuse that one once you're done with your rhino once you're done with everything then you kind of have that safety behind it but it looks like Ciel's moving out now yes yells moving out now with a ton of villagers and and yep they're the walls so I expected him to do this he needs to wall so he can protect his stone and he has I think Tim will try and get CL to the castle aged safely so Tim is going heavily heavy on gold now it looks like an archer and maybe a fire galley builds and he needs to protect CL so C up and collected lots and lots of creds whereas the Vietnamese players they're both going up there both can be fighting in futile it's kind of a risk in my opinion to hope for Castle age on a map like this but that's what CL is going for it absolutely is that's the thing there's gonna be a 1v2 Tim's really gonna happen enough damage will stall them enough anyway they stay well say yeah if it pays off it'll be awesome but end is a day that's a lot to ask on a map like this where the center is so important I guess if Tim can kind of poke it on back to push him back push it on say my name kind of push him back a little bit and they just have them a little bit confused on to what to do but I don't know we've seen back he's in there he's scouted it now he knows what sales doing that's at least it's an out-of-the-box strategy and hopefully they're gonna be able to kind of pull one away with it oh I freaking love this from back - this is such a smart move you see what he's doing he's going for a few militia and forward villagers so he knows CL style he knows that CL is going to try in full wall and go for conquistadors being Spanish so he's gonna forward him a CL is gonna need to respond to this and Cl he's going for that back stone he's going to have to build counter towers and that means his castle if he eventually gets the castle age will be heavily delayed yeah I'm all the villagers in the front happened to be pulled back to help defend this we've got the mill getting thrown up pretty much immediately to kind of say she ate food income so it's gonna have a little bit to kind of work with overall but I don't know exactly what its gonna be able to do with this because there's the tower he's gonna be able to push through the Palisades quite quickly so the rolling is gonna be a little bit rough and then from there we should see Tim starting to get aggressive soon he's got his second dog up I came back to stop this wall was actually plucking the Vil which I don't think it was the best play sorry yes you're right Tim tim is what going for fires around the outer edge maybe yeah he is so we'll have to watch the fish we'll have to watch this push from back you know CL I first I thought he'd be under pressure but while he's losing a villager on his gold his towers will be enough for him and the towers from from back to listening the best offensive position hmm well he's holding it pretty easy hey we even got the outpost going up so he knows what's going on yeah a couple of those men arms just cruising around at this point but that's pretty much the extent of it having I'm not sure exactly what he can kind of do from here backs just gonna have to kind of push around try and get a little bit of damage where he can he can try to die that stone in the back for as long as he can but he's gone towards a start to the north I don't know if you've scouted that honestly back does not know it's there one tile difference I mean mission accomplished for backs because CL can not comfortably go to the next stage and I love this tower on the wood line as well that's gonna be sick so mission accomplished for sure he has been safe at home I'm looking at back Toback doesn't have a doc actually back to the only one who did not dock and go fish so he doesn't have that small food boost behind this and also say my name lost some of his fish to Tim so I guess it Chinese players having a huge fish advantage right now we'll see if that makes a difference as say my name arrives to the gold from CL oh this is rough there we go managed it doesn't get too much with it but still it's good picks it's just good and on the stone as well oh this is brutal and the most important thing as he sees the stone is there right so CL has to leave that one wood line and now he has to leave his Snow White Oh what are we sitting with all these villages yeah yeah wood line that's just an epic tower from back then I love this strategy man Vietnam Legends are up two to one and if things continue like this if they can keep CL away from that castle in the castle age things will be looking very good for them what a play great communication from say my name in fact it's just is it enough because they won't have the fish so a theoretically Tim will hit castle 8 soon a CL could maybe even be getting by with a few farms because he has all the fish we'll see man we will see it's totally doable but right now the plays that's the thing the plays from VNA have been absolutely amazing yeah as a matter of how they kind of decide to go from here cuz I've got the advantage obviously they lost the fish but they've got the advantage in general so seeing how they kind of hold out and play from there and now the tower coming down from back he wants to make sure that when CL gets to castle eight he can't do anything Oh CL needs to rush down his market so he can buy stone to build a counter tower he's also sending villes around some may be rushed oh no he's gonna build the tower there docks will get the tower up so he's continuing to annoy CL I'm really liking the style here it's just the lack of fish man tim is on the way to the frickin castle age already because of the fish boom oh it's perfect play from back he's trying to do exactly what he can hear but at the same time like you said tim is going up to castle not castle advantage man castle units they just absolutely jumped through everything we're saying scale parting go down is gonna be in a good position here to kind of push anything back and if you can get in to do some damage that would be nice but looking at the team wall it's up at the moment we're moving to stone here boy wait wait where's that oh yeah yeah I see that backed is building that stone wall geez well I think it makes sense because they they know that Tim could be sending pressure their way fact is kind of stranded out here with his few villagers men-at-arms now all of which are weak and he's continuing to annoy cl-cl still has villagers in his towers non-stop I don't think he'll be too worried about that tower from back to though they'll just need to protect his stone and goodness this is sloppy turk man he's gonna get the tower up though oh it's happening not easily but it's happening at the moment kind of my big hope is like this is what I want to say in the game if we get there with a transport ship for him it gets a cross look at me but the dream is here we are living the dream tim has Durant transported villagers what a play and he's sending elephants right in to say my name's base and say my name is surely not expecting this these male elephants are basically the cost of a night 250hp 12 attack and say my name has not reacted to this this is not his dream obviously he could be he could be dead that happens this could be and there's a seat workshop down he wants that man he's not even trying to do some damage he he wants to end it the siege workshop gonna be able to push down the buildings and men you're right those male elephants they are just an issue if they can get out there especially in mass he's got the double stable going this is the charred and yeah he has 17 fishing ships men so he has 38 Phil's plus 17 fishing ships he is the strongest economy by far in this game and CL is just holding now I think CL will probably be happy with the situation all the elephant is gonna get to go Oh God say my name most of his economy is just in his town center Tim could defeat him and battering rams he's going for battering rams are for ending this he's up to Castle age but I don't think he has anything they could really dirt no I mean he might have resources for a few camels but the camels won't be enough he might have resources for a few months but I don't even know if that will be enough here comes the battering ram he has to fight with Vil's bro it is there's nothing else you can do about the second battering ram on the war on the way tim is looking at any and there he goes under there get the elephants under there man and just end him all right I'm in the town center back in the TC everyone Beckett Beckett Beckett oh man and it should be just a matter of time till this TC goes down right he's still forced to fight with bills maybe one conversion will distract Tim's elephants but III can only assume that Gigi was called her we didn't see the gg in the chat I I didn't see a way back I did not see a way back for vietname for the Vietnamese players yeah every ray um means I don't think it's happening this light sadly but that man that is full and I can't believe Tim got away with that being able to put himself into such a good position there from the early on he knew he had the water he could boom up with those fish and you didn't need to overcome it just get up to Castle age did the sneaky transport and that was it Tim made no futile age military on Lance right so he went immediately for the fires he killed the fish and the docks of say my name Vox didn't even go for water so Tim just full booms then and with that water control he transported he transported built the stables and finished the game off meanwhile CL while he was pressured he did have seven fishing ships so in reality right now he had a better economy than fact who was pressuring him and CL was going to get to build that castle despite the pressure that Bach did sent in he had a lot of stone miners he lots of gold banked up so he could buy the stone the box wouldn't have really been able to keep the conquistadors away anyhow and that's definitely the game right there we're gonna show you the achievements that was like a very short game but I'll tell you what a lot happened in that there were a lot of things to talk about oh man it was well played it wasn't like we were just waiting around build someone and that was the end it was we had the early aggression we had this play tim-tim just kind of man it was just smart from him in general the strategy really paid off he knew he had water went for it and that's kind of where a go to there wasn't much that we could do about it yeah I don't like fact especially as Italians not making a dock that is a huge mistake in my opinion because they're probably the best water civilization you have the cheaper fish the the cheaper Navy so I mean why why not go for it you could still dock there and send out one fire galley and try and kill seals fish maybe I don't know but it doesn't matter now it is two to two and we are going to Game five next and this is this is kind of what I expected from the day I think with all these best vibes they could go down to the final game this was beautiful as this quality game off quality game as well like you said it was a quick game but man that's what you want to say it wasn't a straight game it was interesting both teams tried to do something a little bit different obviously paid off better for one but the thing is it's interesting games dead quality games it's absolutely perfect so I need about two minutes if that's cool would you be able to entertain the chat maybe chat can ask you questions a little bit of a quick Q&A all right mate sure let's do this thing alright I'll be right back guys what is up chat the question 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game number 5 coming up my friends just a second I'm just excited we've seen such good play from both teams at this point I actually don't have a favorite that I want to win I think at the moment we have a place of better game it just deserves it yeah I'm with you there I think it'd be harsh to to want any team to win because they play so good right alright ladies and gentlemen welcome to the final game this is the best-of-five between vietnam legends and frantic both teams deserve to get to the semi-final and both teams deserve to get the game number five the winner of this will move on to the final which we will cast after the next semi-final which will be after the conclusion of this any orange for vietnam legends we have back-to-back tis playing as the Malians and then we have say my name in the red he is playing as the Huns towards the east of the map in the teal we have sail playing for frantic and he will be via Berbers towards the south of the map in the a green for frantic again his partner-in-crime we have Tim playing as the Indians yeah and immediately we have Berbers my friends we have Berbers this is what CL lacked before but perhaps was saving this for this map in this moment Indians and Berbers versus Malians and Huns I have to say now I like frantic sips better so you know we saw Malians earlier from Cl right you have to think about when you're gonna choose these civilizations sometimes you have to save the best saves for later on dude I just like what do you do as as Malians and Huns verse verse full indian camels and full berber camel archers well that's the kind of thing I was trying to get my head around that it's just you literally running into some hard counters yeah and that's gonna be the problem they really need to kind of do the damage in the early game and try and prevent it from getting there yep as much as I don't think that's like like a play I guess it's a strategy overall well no I agree I agree and Malians they could be going for Scouts in two nights and camels which is very good and then you do have maybe the hon CA so maybe the hon CA can be an X Factor here we'll see the style I definitely think there's flexibility for the vietnam vietnamese team but dude this is before we even talk about the map which is very open it is serengeti it is the map that i said that CL probably couldn't wall but at this CL so no we will see soon enough I mean I'm looking at his I'm looking at his base trying to see if you can will treat that I kind of make it very hard but I reckon doable so we'll see kind of what he goes for pushing a couple of zebras towards the TC there as well really trying to max out but I think you spot-on trying to go with those hit-and-run tactics early on the VNA that's probably their best bet if I can use those to gain an advantage that's where they're gonna be able to kind of go into full huns mode and really just push it yeah it's not like some of the previous maps where players could wall up and you've pretty much expected it to get to the imperial age it is a map that could end in the fuel age it could end in the castle age so we might not see in fact I'm pretty certain we will not see Imperial Agent P really camels Imperial aged elite Camel archers that's just that'd be such a crazy game if that were to happen I don't see it being that close so it'll be very open and it's up to the players to find those openings find those pressure points and to hit them yeah I'm I'm a little bit concerned that the game's gonna kind of they're going to be able to hold it too long and they won't be able to do that kind of dashed that I want to say that we'll put them in front and really put where they can really win it I'm worried that it's gonna kind of get away from him spiral out of control and she's gonna be some good hold some good defense and then from there it's just gonna be such a different game yeah well I'm just going to make some guesses here as to what we'll see I think we'll see a clique up from Tim and he'll go for Scouts and then verse him we have backed I think Beck's will probably go for Scouts as well but he might not be able to up quite as fast as Tim because Tim has the cheap ervil's and then say my name I assume if anyone on his team goes archers it will be him because again he's the more flexible civilization and crossbows or archers and crossbows in the cab archers makes more sense and then CL you know I assume he'll be the guy to go archers here and maybe camel archers later on throughout the game but one thing's for sure he won't be able to fast castle on this map without being brutalized I think you're just absolutely spot-on he's doing a good job trying to get the zebras in as much as possible really trying to kind of maximize everything he can and that said he's only got 500 food in the bank that said I'm not sure exactly where he's really gonna be able to take it apart from just some of the options you've kind of presented earlier I think that's it he's gonna come down to who has a stronger pushy and who gets the better defense going yeah I just wonder if CL wants gold will he be able to secure his Gold's on the front on this map I think you have 7 tiles which is standard to be next to you yes II have one for tile gold and 1/3 tile gold the other ones are gonna be all around the map so these are close to his TC but they are forward and he has not gone out to gold yet so hey you could just go with Scouts as both I guess but I kind of expected archers like for example you have backed Oh back it's going to go forward yet again so man-at-arms and followers interesting considering how it worked out last game I'm interested to see that the last game of the series he wants to game it again conspirator didn't work out for him I wonder what he's kind of is he spotted anything that's kind of made it a little bit more have a look at where both the lumbers are the gold all that that's really together for Tim yeah it is and when you're going with something like Scouts it takes a lot of time to them up so Tim would have to see this and react to this I think the first tower for back to go right behind this one little blunt Tim could then run away and go to the back wood line so he'd be fine for a while Tim also would have that stone next to that wood lines maybe recover but I don't think he expects this just looking at his scalp he is just now running forward he hasn't scouted what his opponent is doing at all okay but he can see the tower if he looks he can see the tower foundation all right so he kind of knows it's coming provided he sees it now we go he's putting down a defensive tower sign oh you're gonna come here as well and men-at-arms there we go man-at-arms Tim you got a bail here man you got a bail here he loses two villagers oh and we've got say my name in there as well lending a hand this is good great stuff from Vietnam legends and the tower goes up Tim's is denied so he wastes a lot of stone and that is the price that Tim is he's paying this price because he has not scouted right if he saw this coming he could have reacted and now he's trying to build a counter tower yet again with the little stone e is left will he even get this one up all this is just a disaster for Tim of the start yeah this is just like you said it's a map where players can get brutalized so quickly this alt are out on the tower though they don't think they'll be able to deny it though the hill advantage there as well and that towers nearly at 90 percent already the manor arms are back in that's just gonna deny the scouts yeah well that gave him a little bit of time right to get that tower up to put a stop to this oh but say my name arrives so say my name went directly to Tim it's just a to be won on Tim oh it's close to come and see al I was going for walls he's going for walls you're right he may not have been able to but he's making it happen and I don't know what he's gonna be able to do there we go he's got a stable up at the front he's trying to get a couple of scouts across looks like he's targeting back yeah knowing he's gone forward it makes it a little bit easier to push in on but there's a spear there and another spear so he needs to kill that feel that feels low HP he is enough Scout oh man back to walls in the Ville this is so good for Vietnam in Game five it's him is starting to stabilize but the problem is he doesn't have the economy now he can't make any Scouts so he can't he can't do all that much now that Ville service is just doing that ring of towers he's got the matter arms they're ready to kind of hold off you stupid his Scout so we can kind of denied the gold they're back don't think he's gonna have enough Ridge to really hit the berry bushes so I'm not gonna be so lucky with that one but Cl he's trying to do the damage where he can't he's really trying hey he's trying he's moving around however everywhere he goes box seems to has have Spearman oh is the Scout couldn't get that weak girl in the fog rekt that's hilarious that dude was just walled in ah different the quick wall from box on the mill so he saved some more villagers while using that guy but crazy stuff here that's the thing you look at the level of player say right now and they're looking for those what Oh cut games yeah she's level it ine they're looking for those little villages the quick wall you just saw go down these things I just pull in play is so far ahead at the moment this is amazing yeah well Cl needs to do damage we know that because Tim is behind it's him gets a counter tower up you have to give him credit he didn't expect it at first but he's done a good job protecting himself since then and that why he's doing a fantastic job holding on yeah astok I guess back to will now build defensive towers you think that makes sense yeah I think it makes sense at this point doesn't really have anything at home to kind of defend with the toy and it's got the stone and I guess it's about is stepping sort of actually making it to the next area yeah well CL is in a comfortable position I will say that is towering his golden home he's never been pressured by say my name however there's a hole in his wood line I mean say my name if he spotted that could run right through [Music] why is he not running I look I don't think he knows it's there I think it might have been Justin over trop recently yeah it's probably what it was and back to sort it out or not back they go yeah good timing yeah very good timing man that could have been disastrous for that's a lot of scouts I think cassoulet will probably be on the way for for say my name soon and probably 4cl soon I'm not sure about Beck's I'm not sure about Tim they're probably gonna continue with their little Tower skirmish well say my name's come forward with some villages and getting a tower up towards that gold over there he really wants to push in and make these Scouts kind of worth it at the moment because I really haven't been able to achieve much against al sure they helped out a bit about Tim but Tim stabilised and he's done a really good job getting this one back on track yeah and Ciel is building a second tower here and I don't think say my name or notices this he has his bills kind of walled in here so he could lose the bill because they're trapped and one down there we go he's gonna lose all the bills what I'm we've got the scouts coming in as well this is perfect yeah well played from cl-cl in Game one of this series was just badass man amazing carries and in Game five Knollys he's propping up to him a little bit I like it he's been a true MVP entire way through this series looks like say my name going again for some pokes and prods denies the stone there for a couple of milliseconds basically but you can see that Tim's just on it he's making sure it's not losing any extra villages now building his way back up into the game and he's got the lumber on he's got his defensive towers now you should be fine to kind of hold this one out from now that's a matter of just seeing exactly what he kind of wants to go for yeah so the situation we're in now is that say my name will be later to cast late she is behind CL so he could be slightly overrun he needs to hold but then say my name's al I'd back is ahead of Tim and we'll probably hit castle age before Tim so it is very important for frantic that CL continues to pressure say my name and as he is just on there with the vill pick it is very important for the Vietnam Legends team that they hold for a few minutes do not take any more losses and then they will be ahead no you're exactly spot-on with that it's what we can kind of expect to see out of this that's that kind of in-between of the waves kind of come up best position if you can kind of ride those ones in it means you'll be in a really good place overruled kind of just push the game but he comes back with another tower yeah another tower is still getting some use out of those forward bills and man-at-arms Tim sees it is building a counter tower and Tim should get his tower up the question is well back to get his up and I honestly feel like who it's gonna be close that's gonna be a no for me mmm look that's that's the thing he had so many less villages that I guess he didn't lose me I'm already in a relatively okay play the trash it happens what have we got so the tower got tonight goes for another one in the back line here comes forward to build another Tower so it's just kind of holding this one off it seals kind of trying to get it against say my name but he's kind of moved the switch in tonight's now so a much more powerful unit obviously I'm really moving under those house and kind of get a little bit of damage in there where it kind of counts but sales all over the map right now he's got great map control he's got his own nights out that are on their way over to back yeah and I think say my name was expecting to receive the pressure and said factors receiving it back does have three Spearman could be enough because he's very close to his TC as well so he could just run around the bit and back to killing for more quick walls as we've seen a lot today backed by the way it will lose his forward Tower and likely lose all of his filters there and Tim will be right behind back to the castle age this is a close fifth game that's it I'm not sure exactly who's ahead of the run we've got Tim going off bloodlines scale biding he's really kind of amping out for those castle ages unit so he can rip um away with but cuz he's the eco even then he's got some of the most he's got the most villagers in the game yeah after all of this he's still managed to stay in front it's which is just incredible just incredible fact is that 31 villagers he lost a few on his gold there and it is slowly falling apart for Vietnam legends say my name he wants to send the night somewhere he sends them to Tim's base but Tim is soon going to be in Castle age and he's Indians so he can make the camels they eager and even then we've got back to powering up a castle right now it's gonna defend his line their defend the whole front of his face across the town center as well so he'll will be in a good sesh but there we go enough nights to deny that for a little bit oh man yeah enough nights to deny a villager died there a filter died on the wood line I genuinely think that back to wants to go into Geppetto so I think they'll go Geppetto and night as a combination but this is not ideal man this is not ideal he has to repair the Palisades otherwise all the villagers will die the palisade goes down these theatres are destined to die he's so far behind economically it's just insane man the council was gonna do a bit but he's gonna take those villages then get out of there the castles not gonna save them unless that one managed to run away as they go and those Knights are out there that's a really good win there for CL the castle did get powered up there in the end but the village account at the moment that's looking rough and c28 CL gets conversions forward now verse say my name I even keeps his monk alive here it seems he has well played and everywhere you look now it is all frantic and who would have expected this after the beginning stages we're back to went forward he just kind of fell apart didn't he and now Vietnam legends need to push this back man and they've got back as well just killing off some little Knights that are just low on HP some amazing play there's get a really kind of proving they use their overall and that's it and we saw such an interesting play from bacteria that I wouldn't say a back fight or anything he did a good job at the start Tim just managed to stabilize so quickly after E yeah you got a credit CL as well by the way missed miss punna portunity there you didn't say back to fired I'm disappointed ah you're right I missed that one and I apologize to everyone and the rest of the world at that point I promise I will get one well we'll get there we'll get there we'll get one I'm in training so 53 villagers for CL he is quite a few TCS up in this little compact base of his just wondering I mean he's already ahead and Vil's over his guy he has just as many nights as his guy at some point he could consider going into camel archers right ah absolutely is not pressured he's kind of got the options at the moment no one's really pushing on him forcing him to make any decisions or any movement he's moving some villages towards the stone or at least one there at the well so it looks like he's training them from the town center so he's kind of preparing to go for it he's kind of clearing that one up in the back as well so I could think about that but there's chain barding bloodlines heavy plow he might be actually about to make a pretty big attack move oh my goodness and all this could be so bad for say my name he's sending his knights forward he won't find any pick offs there okay must realize this these monks are are all alone this is this is not a good thing and Tim's come in as well with some camels yeah he's even gonna be able to come in and push this so it's basically you know essentially everyone's would say my name right now they go a couple of villages here come the monks gonna try and get some convert but man will it be enough yeah I think Tim kind of paths the wrong way there if Tim was initially in that fight it would have been much better but it's still gonna be good for them all the monks will go down CEO will get his own conversions and the Gepetto's where are they back doesn't have the economy to get them here he doesn't have the numbers this is not looking good for Vietnam Legends just getting a couple of villages they're just really kind of hammer home the kind of advantage they have at the moment really pushing everything trying to get those converts they can't push into it cuz the monks are just sitting there they're gonna heal them up as well behind this overall Tim even grabbing the relics at this stage he's a man who's in it for the light game and the long game yeah and it is one relic for Ciel one relic for Tim and Ciel is getting closer to building that castle which he doesn't even need at this point they're so far ahead already but he could get there or he could just stick with cavalier honestly is there an answer man is there a response maybe it's it's the Gepetto's right like maybe the Gepetto's if Mike rode properly can do something they'll definitely help but don't know if that Imbolc enough yet overall yeah that's what we the thing I'm worried about if it they're doing a good job strolling at the moment that's where they're really kind of starting to kind of bring this one back a little bit they're not losing units they don't need to they're holding it but at the end of the day look at the right these people are building up but sales already on the way to Imperial yeah I mean they're you're right they have to lay this a little bit but you know the longer they delay things actually that just in proves the situation for CL as he will have more economy and more units and a better age soon and the Gepetto's take the top of the hill now that the wood lines are really help to Geppetto's because they can sit in these chokes but I think if you're frantic you can just run away from this and wait for imp right absolutely and that's something we've got the full map control they've got control in terms of that head in terms of eco overall so you could just poke in get a couple of kills pull out they don't need to worry about any of that damage really kind of happening they don't need to overly commit they're in a good position if her fights not gonna be worth it for them they don't have to take it they don't have to pull this back at all oh my goodness the Vil leads just nuts we have 59 bills now for say my name 85 for CL and he's on his way to M then you have 57 oh sorry 46 for backed and it's 62 for Tim and they've gotten into their their ideal situations right you have the Indians on camels and full boom you have the Berbers on the cavalier and full boom I think what Cavalier comes in they'll take a fight and I don't know if there's anything that Vietnam can do to stop it well that's the thing they can't just continue playing the way they are now cuz it's not working in their behind to catch up they kind of need to do something special having a look at the map the way they've kind of played it out sale he's got town centers up everywhere eyes got all these military towards the front he's looking really good defensively overall he's gonna have to push out a little bit to kind of probably take another wood line soon but overall I can't say way they can really push him into a way that they can get that advantage because the Knights look at that they've got time just get over there yeah he could kill 20 bills here and still be behind that's the crazy thing hey that's that's a man it's like how do you come back from that what can you do that's special to get back from that cavalier upgrade in the way Tim going up to him so gonna have a full empty me here and the house everyone else looking back is nowhere close and then we've got say my name it's been about half the resources he needs but it's about to have to commit those to make sure he doesn't die exactly so he needs to create more that that's the cycle they're in now at CL just waiting for his upgrades chasing around say my name in his base once Cavalier and plate barton complete he will push forward he's he is really not troubled anymore was just a few nights few bill losses they need a lot of conversions maybe that there's quite a few monks on the hill maybe with six Cavalier conversions you can hold this but you you need yeah maybe Pike's I mean say my name is really desperate now adding barracks Turkmen this is gonna be tough yeah we've got Pike's coming in we've got foraging coming in so it's really starting to try and maximize everything kenny started to realize that he just needs that Boelcke at the moment even if he can just get some Pike's in front of it to do a little bit of extra damage take some damage overall man it's a matter of how they kind of hold this and move on and I think is though I think they might be able to hold it for a bit but the moving on is a tricky bit and not gonna have the resources to kind of get up into the next ages yeah box moves in he kills a few villagers but he also loses the Gepetto's I think he'll lose all the Gepetto's once Tim gets heavy camel oh yeah man and then look at say my name getting rekt now I think this could be it I think that frantic could take Game five in fact I'm fairly certain it is now with these upgrades coming in on the cavalier as well you've got blast furnace coming in now pretty much a lot really bring this home and pretty much every trade at this point gonna be really really hard to come across it yeah man I don't think this really matters but back to cabooses Gepetto's to the Megane l noe micros away but again what really matters is that say my name has no help nowhere to run nowhere to hide and it is Game five so they want to continue to try they do not want to crash out in the semis but yeah there's the gg they know it's over now that's it Wow bad luck but looking at this what can you do with that there's Cavaliere all through your base you garrisoned everywhere you've got Tim on the other hand as well who's cleaning up these ghetto as well so it's what do you do against this the answer is you can't hold out against it you can't build up against it you just have to end it yeah and in hindsight I do like the strategy choice still and we mentioned hell as the game went on Indians and Berbers would probably be better than Huns and Malians so for that reason I like the fact that back to went forward it was just that he didn't do enough right he didn't do enough he took losses at home as well which I think was the big thing and say my name say my name couldn't pressure CL at all so say my name it went to Tim and Tim was kind of the punching bag as he so often is it seems in these to be twos while CL full booms and see how just carried the victory home what a performance from Vietnam legends to take it to game 5 a what a performance from frantic to win the best of five and they will be moving on to the finals to face the winner of the next set which will be sy and Finland man these it's just quality games I completely grow through much everything overall you've said that in fact I agree with everything strategy it was good the combination was good it was just something there and the execution failed I would not it's kind of hard to get it I think Tim just held too well and Tim is that punching bag he has been the punching bag for frantic yeah pretty much old Horniman overall you've kind of seen him just take hit after hit whereas he's got used to it though I guess and he's kind of in I would hold that once just absolutely amazingly yeah and a small part of me is kind of glad that I don't have to say say my name anymore so get it get it out of the way chat just just say it one more time I'm kind of glad that that will be the last time to say that at least for a few weeks there's the achievements for you we're going to have a short break coming up

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Published: Mon Sep 17 2018