- Hello and welcome to another edition of Buzzfeed Unsolved Postmortem. A show where we answer your
most pressing questions about the most recent
episode of Buzzfeed Unsolved, which was Eastern State Penitentiary. All the questions that were answered today came from you guys via our
Buzzfeed Unsolved Facebook page and our Buzzfeed Unsolved Instagram page. Okay.
- Follow the link. Go to that link. - The one you were shooting your fingers at.
- Shooting that. Good to be back. - (laughs) Oh, yeah, you're back. I completely forgot you were gone. - I've realized I love
Quinta on the episode. She let you get a little too-- She wasn't there to stop you. You know, you got your
feathers all puffed up. - I don't know what you're talking about. - Shaniacs, you better watch out 'cause we're coming for you. - We did, we did. I said we were gonna come and we did. We came out in droves. - Let's get to some questions, Ryan. - Okay, how about that? Also, stick around for the end of the show because we are gonna address some of the more shocking
revelations from the JFK files. - This is a juicy ep. - If you haven't checked out
the Buzzfeed Unsolved page on buzzfeed.com, it's right here. It has research notes
that go into the episode. - So you can really pour
through the literature. And dig up all those little details we don't get to in the show. All right, questions.
- Question time. Do you wanna go first? - Yeah, here's from Instagram. It's from Sianmichaels2k17. "Hi, guys, quick question. "Because of the penitentiary's
extremely dark history, "do you think there could possibly be "a demon infestation there? "Ryan, not saying I believe
in supernatural stuff "because I don't. "But it would hypothetically make sense. "Love you guys!" - You being a Shaniac, you go
into this haunted location. Haunted location, you
know, playing the part. Does that thought even enter your mind? Oh, I wonder if there's a demon here. - It doesn't enter my mind. But I could understand
wanting to understand what your stupid brain thinks. - All right, what's the
question again (laughs)? - Do you think there
could be demons there? - No.
- Okay. Next question for Ryan. - Oh, yeah, this one comes
from Daniellesteinwart. "Ryan, I just want to know why
you're so scared of ghosts." Oh, boy, okay, I'm starting to see why Shane picked this one. "Because from your own personal experience "in these episodes, "it seems the scariest things they do "are turn on lights, mutter incoherently, "and knock over little
tubes of toothpaste. "I'm just saying, with that logic, "are you also scared of
like, clumsy grandmas?" (laughs) Fuck you. - (laughs) I liked it. - Did you, did you?
- Yeah. Are you afraid of clumsy grandmas? - Oh, wait, I missed the end though. Hashtag, "still love you though." Hashtag, "But maybe stay
away from nursing homes." That's good. - Little, old ladies. - That's good, yeah. You know what? If that little, old lady was a ghost, then yes, I would be scared of her. - Here's one from BeckyIngram. "I think it would be
easier to believe your EVPs "or sound recordings if you didn't tell us "what you thought they said straight away, "if we all heard the same thing "without you suggesting it before hand, "it could then count as evidence." Hashtag, "Shaniac." I actually had thought about that. I think it would be interesting
to go around the office and play the clips for people and say, "What do you think this says?" Because it's such a stretch,
it's such a stretch, Ryan. - It's not. - I mean, you have zero
integrity, at this point. - What are you talking-- One of them-- Okay, not this episode
but the first episode of the season, Vulture Mine, I did play you the clip
without telling you. - We have a "what." - And you said what? - What else you got? Brown and white is pretty-- - Ah, oh, ah? - No, no.
- Yeah, yeah. I heard it say, "Wa, wa." - Brown and white is damn clear. What color jackets are we wearing? (intense music) And I think if we played
that for a lot of people, they would agree. - I don't think so. - We're not gonna agree on that. - We are not. - I think maybe you should just take the shit out of your ears, how about that? Q-Tip the shit out and
then, you're gonna eat it? This comes (chuckles)
from Da.spoopy.lucio. - Daspooplucio.
- This one just says, "Lol Ryan's Saw impression was great." - It is good.
- It was pretty good. - Do it again. Yeah, do it for the folks. - Ladies and gentlemen, Jigsaw is my 12th picture and I was really happy with this one. - (laughs) He's talking
up his new Saw film? - Yeah, this is Jigsaw, just doing some press for my new movie. It's really good, as always. - Great, here's an
Instagram from libbypaulson. "Don't ghosts usually haunt
the place they die in? "Since Al Capone only
stayed there for nine months "and didn't die there, "it doesn't make sense for
his ghost to be in his cell. "So, hypothetically, if it
wasn't Al Capone's ghost, "then who do you think it was?" He died in Florida, right? - Yeah, but I think-- I've said this to you before. And you say my ghost rules change. - Making another ghost rule. - My belief, and this is also, like a Japanese mythology,
supernatural belief. Ghosts were more likely to haunt the place where they are in the most misery, where they, you know, experience the strong feelings of hate or anger. - So, not more than when
he was dying in Florida. - No.
- But rather, when he was in his cushy little
cell with a nice Victrola. - Yeah, okay, you make it sound like Florida is this awful place. Florida has Disney World. I know there's parts of
Florida that aren't that great. - Well, I know I probably wouldn't enjoy Disney World if I had syphilis. - Yeah but he was probably
in a nice, little bed. - He had syphilis. - He probably had a lot
of people tending to him. - I don't know, man. Syphilis, it's not a good time. - You know what's also not a good time? Jail.
- Syphilis, five stars. - Jail is five stars too, I love jail. - I'd rather be in jail without syphilis than just dying in Florida. - Let's move onto Polia.vera. "Can someone explain to me "the science behind the spirit box? "Like, who just decided "that ghosts can speak at this frequency?" - See.
- Oh, boy. Okay, is there where Shane's gonna-- - (groans) You know. I've had a lot of people
who are tweeting at me, like, "I can't believe you admitted "that those EVPs sounded like voices." You have to understand me saying, "Sure, that sounds like
someone saying, 'what.'" Has no bearing on my believe in ghosts. Because the spirit box is bullshit, right? It is. - Basically, I'll go
into the science here. - Let's hear the science. - So, the science, and I
explained this in the episode. But basically, a spirit
box is a radio tuner that is scanning different radio channels. And by scanning, I mean, when you're in your
car and you click next, the next radio channel, that's like you're scanning to a new channel every time.
- Yep. - Basically, what this spirit box is doing is it's going to a new channel, every 15 hundreds of a second. Can you say my name, Al? (machine warbling) So, that means every 15
hundredths of a second, a new channel's on, a new channel's on. And it's skipping that. So, over a course of one second-- Well, what's the math there? (laughs) That's about seven channels. It's about seven channels per second. (machine warbling) Did he say, "Shut up?" All right, so, in the
incidence of brown and white, that was about two to three
seconds for that phrase. - That's right. - That means that about
21 different channels worked together to form a sound that was the same voice and a sentence. - You know that a lot of radio stations have multiple bands, right? - So, you think 21 different channels-- - No, I think the radio
picked up radio frequency. - You think it picked up 21
channels in a row of MPR? - Sure, I think you'll
hear what you wanna hear. - Oh, my God. - Here's on from 26.kiki. "I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned this "but when Ryan and
Shane went into the cell "containing the tunnel
that was being built "by the prisoners and
the whistle was heard, "could this possibly be the whistle "of a person warning the
others to stop digging?" - Well, first off, we
should review that whistle because that whistle was a big moment. - Let's review that whistle. - I mean, we don't need to hear you. - Oh, yeah, roll the clip. (whistle squeaking) I didn't mean to drag
anyone else into this but we have a guy who works on the show with us, Teej monster. - Oh, my God. - I said, I know Ryan's gonna try and peddle some lies this week. - There is no lies. - Here's a quote from him on the matter. - Oh, my God. - He said, "Ryan, did ask me to listen "to some of the audio awhile back. "It was the whistle part "in the cell with the escape tunnel. "He wanted to know if
it was me who whistled. "At that time, I did suggest "that it was probably
the maintenance worker. "The whistle sound came through "all the microphones recording on set. "And I do remember hearing
that sound on location. "I also remember thinking nothing of it "because that cell was located "right by a door to the outside. "Where, moments before, we all
saw the maintenance worker. "If I recall correctly,
Ryan was frightened "by the maintenance worker
when he first saw him. "Ryan refused to accept or
even contemplate my suggestions "because it did not
fit into his narrative. "These were clearly not the
answers Ryan was looking for "because he seemed irritated "and distraught by our reactions." - That is such a load of shit. (laughs) That is such a load of shit. TJ didn't even know the
maintenance worker was there. - I don't know, man. - [Ryan] I can't believe that TJ-- - It's the Teej weighing in. It's the Teej monster there. - That is complete horse shit. - Is a ghost whistling
to his friend to say, "Hey, they're digging
over here, let's stop." - To me, it seems like a signal. They're digging, they had
to have some kind of signal. Like, "Hey, guards are coming." They had to have a lookout of some sort. - Okay, so, whistling ghost. - This is from Accio lottie. Oh, a Harry Potter reference, I think. - Achio?
- Like accio. - Is is accio or achio?
- Accio. - No, I said it, "achio." I only read five books though. - Oh, okay, anyways, whatever. "I'm a hashtag Shaniac
through and through, "and I love the show so much, "just wondering why Shane seemed "so off during this episode? "Was he really the spoopy prison ghosts? "Or was it just that was a genuinely "creepy environment that made him uneasy, "even without ghosties zooming about?" (laughs) I think I know why you were off. Why don't you tell them why you were off? - Yeah, so. I didn't really wanna get into this. But I ate some bad hotdogs. - Plural, plural.
- Ironic. Ironic that hotdogs would do that. - Yeah, yeah, we all went to airport. We were in a rush to get to the location. There was airport hotdogs, a cart. And I thought, "Okay, maybe
I'll have one of these." - At the baggage claim. - Shane walks out-- - We bought hotdogs at baggage claim. - He bought two hotdogs. Shane walked out with two giant hotdogs. - I let everyone else buy
their hotdogs before me so by the time I got to the hotdogs, there were only two spicy hotdogs let. I didn't want spicy hotdogs. - So, you have to have both of them. - I had to have the spicy hotdogs. - This guy was struggling most of-- - All night, I was sweating. I was actually surprised I don't look worse in that episode. It was fun to imagine people who have been in there in the past. - (laughs) After the shoot was done, Shane just turned to me, with the palest,
sweatiest face, just went, "I'll meet you guys in the
hotel, I need to poop." And he ran across the street into a bar. I didn't see him until an hour later. - I walked in and the
bartender looked over at me. And I said, "Can I use your bathroom?" And the guy said, "Yeah, go ahead." Yeah, he looked concerned. - Yeah, so you're right. You picked up on Shane
almost shitting his pants. This is ill advised. - (laughs) This next question
comes from Glennleonard5515. It just says, "We're
fucked. Hashtag Shaniac." You know what, Glenn? You're right. - I gotta tell you,
Glenn, you're not right. Because there's nothing
about this location that was spookier than the rest. - You're right, he's right. - See, I knew you were
gonna cast this doubt upon the things I say. - The big guy needs a win. - What else we got? We got some JFK stuff? - Yeah, all right, here we go. So, starting with fact number one. Or not fact, revelation number one. (intense music) - (laughs) "In response
to the assassination, "some in the Soviet Union,
in an obtained memo, "thought the murder was
a coup by the ultraright "in an attempt to blame the
Soviets for the killing." Kennedy was known to be-- You know, he wanted to keep
the peace with the Russians. That was like a known fact. So, to frame this murder on the Russians, the ultraright would
have what they wanted, which was us to, you know, attack Russia.
- Sure. - That makes sense.
- Motivations. - But the juicy part
of this is an informant told the Americans that
quote, "President Johnson "was responsible for the
assassination," end quote. Once again, no real proof here. - These are just little,
little tidbits, huh? - Yeah, this is a lot of he say, she say. - He said, she say?
- What? - He say, she say. - "Former CIA director, Richard Helms, "in a newly released deposition
from 1975 was asked, quote "'Is there any information involved "with the assassination
of President Kennedy "which in any way shows
that Lee Harvey Oswald "was in some way a CIA
agent or an agent--" And then, it gets cut off. The document itself gets
cut off right there. He was asked that and
we don't see the answer. - Interesting, obviously, there's a lot more to uncover here if they didn't release-- - Yeah, I will say that the fact that they didn't release
almost 90% of the documents and one of the documents
has a cutoff quote, doesn't look good, I'll say that. - Yeah, everyone thought
we were getting like, the rest of the jigsaw puzzle today. But we really just got one little piece. - (laughs) Yeah, we got one piece. - Here you go. - It looks like there's grass in this here.
- Yeah. - "FBI Director J. Edgar
Hoover's dictated memo "on November 24th, 1963 states, quote, "'The thing I am concerned about, "and so is Mr. Katzenbach.'" Who was the Deputy Attorney General. "'Is having something
issued so we can convince "the public that Oswald is the
real assassin.,'" end quote. - Oh, that's pretty juice. That's a nugget. - It's a nugget, but once again, you could spin that either way. Either he is desperate to prove that this is truce that
people don't do shit like we're doing right now. Because it isn't fact true. - Or we gotta make these
dummies believe the truth. - Yeah, or it's we
gotta make them believe. There's a difference. Once again, we don't know. "An editor of a publication investigating "the JFK assassination claims "that he had proof that Lyndon B. Johnson "was a member of the Ku Klux Klan." Also interesting was he sites proof but doesn't show the proof. - I feel like a lot of
success white men back then were probably dabbled, right? - Perhaps, but once again,
unsubstantiated claim. - Yeah.
- But I mean, if this is in fact true, this isn't looking very good for LBJ. - Well, a lot of things
don't look good for LBJ. - [Ryan] Yeah, but I mean-- - He's done some good
things, did some bad things. - Moving on to the next revelation. "A man overheard someone place a bet "that JFK would be, quote,
'dead within three weeks' "in a New Orleans bar." - Whoa, what if that person
is just real cocky though? We were in New Orleans. - (laughs) Yeah. - [Shane] We know what
people are like there. - 'Cause you know me. You get that liquor in me, I start naming assassinations, one by one. - I'm gonna start doing that now. - That's gonna look really bad (laughs). - I'll just be out on a Friday night and I'll be like, "Mario
Lopez, two weeks." - Extra is gonna be very,
very sad in one day. Mark my words, Mario. - No love lost to Mario Lopez. - I like Mario Lopez. - He's got good dimples, right? - Next revelation. "In a deposition, Richard McGarrah Helms, "a top CIA official during
the Kennedy assassination, "said, quote 'President Johnson
used to go around saying "that the reason President
Kennedy was assassinated "was that he had
assassinated President Diem "and this was just justice. "He certainly used to say
that in the early days "of the presidency and
where he got this idea from, "I don't know.'" - I just picture that guy walking around, kind of grabbing his nuts, being like, "I'll tell you what this was. "You know why he got shot in the neck? "I'll tell you why." - "I'll tell you why. "Thank you for the sweet tea. "Thank you for the sweet tea, honey. "I'll tell you, that Kennedy." I could totally see him walking around with his hands in his boxers. - Yeah.
- A straw of hay sticking out of his mouth. Straw hat.
- Just grunting. He seems like one of those guys that if you stood next
to him at the urinal, he'd be like, (grunts). You ever get one of those next to you? - Yeah (laughs). - It's like, "What are
you doing over there? "What are you Tom Hanks
in The Green Mile?" - (laughs) He's exorcizing a demon. - Picking out fairies? - (laughs) Maybe he had
two airport hotdogs. Maybe that's what it was. - What do we have coming
up this week, Ryan? - You know what? I normally don't like giving it away but I'm just gonna say it. This is the one sacrifice
I have for this season. And if you're familiar with the series, you know what that means. (gasps) That does it for this episode of Buzzfeed Unsolved Postmortem. Make sure you watch the
episode coming this Friday. Send in your questions
to Buzzfeed Unsolved, the Facebook page and the Instagram page. And we will get to them. Don't you. - Ryan, I have a quick thing to say here. Now that this is up. You know, people love when we
bring in little animations. I recall last season,
we were doing a fun-- I can't remember, it was something with
hotdogs or something. So, I thought I'd bring that back. Just bring back our beloved characters that we all loved so much. You wanted them and
based on your feedback, you said, "No, more hotdogs." - I did not say that.
- You did. - It's just another lie.
- More hotdogs. - Honestly, they're just bouncing-- - All right, and we're back. I think we left off on the island where the joust had happened
with Dan, his wife, Rebecca. - You said you weren't
going to do this anymore. - That's fine, don't worry about. Their son, who traveled back in time from the future, Brandon. And their friend and
acclaimed character, Gene, who is French fries. (upbeat music) "Oh, Dan and sweet Brandon,
we're a family again. "A real family with a tasty side of Gene." "Oh, that's my name, don't wear it out." (upbeat music) Love that Gene. - Were you looking for a reaction?
- Yeah. - I tuned out, to be honest. - Dan, the hotdog, in response, say this, "Holy shit, Gene. "Look, everyone, Rebecca's
evil sister, Pam, "is dead, I think. "Those crabs left her on a
log for a beast to consume. "It's time for us to put this
whole crazy saga behind us "and remember what it
means to be a family." Brandon says, "Three
cheers for my hot dad." That's like a hotdog version of a dad. Just say hot dad. Like, hot mom.
- I got it. No explanation needed. - "Hup, hup, hup." A letter falls from the sky. - Hup, no one says "Hup." - "Hey, hey, hey, I got a letter." "Read it, Gene." "It's from my sister, Genbra. "She's getting married in California. "And she wants me to get
my old band back together "and play for her wedding." "Band?" "Well, it's a long story, y'all. "But I think I'll have time to tell it. "Because we're gonna get
that band back together "and we're gonna play that wedding. "This calls for a road trip!" Hot Daga II, Buns on the Run. We gotta do some cool-- - There's nothing cool about
this story, so just say music. - It's like I can feel people-- - Oh, is that the end? - Yeah, we're in it now.
- Yeah. - He's gotta get his band back together. - Oh, he's gotta get his
band together, you know? - He's pretty good. - He's gotta do what he's gotta do. All right, great.
- A road trip. - Man, a road trip sounds great. Yeah, that was the worst. - Send all your Gene fan art. - You keep it in a little baby shoe box? You got like two little letters? - A thousand baby shoe boxes. - One addressed from yourself. - Unbelievable.
- "Dear Future Shane, "Keep doing the hotdog
story, everyone loves it." - Everyone loves it. Quote, Ryan Bergara, "Everyone loves it." - Everyone loves it, everyone loves it. Everyone loves it. (whoops)
(eerie music) - Hey, Ryan, I like your shirt. - Thanks, I like yours too. - Thanks, buy it here.
- Buy it here.
