DRINK CHAMPS: Episode 70 w/ Ice T | Talks Early Career, Pimpin', Body Count, + more

money good be hoping this would've should be a boy no.8 what up is DJ efn and this is military crazy war radio radio I did it on purpose up those somebodies would say no no so we have hands down my favorite og a person that every time I call him he responds he doesn't he's never been Hollywood he's never played this Hollywood game as he was coming here I told all my friends I said listen they say you know I you know what I said ice come come don't blow and walk up by itself absolutely that's exactly who he is he's been like that ever since I ever known and he continues to be the realest person I I strive every day to try to be like this man when I'm you know have that many good years in this game I would like to be like this about this outfit oh yeah and if you don't have twitter you should get Twitter just to follow this man and final level he drops the daily game every day I'm always watching I always respect it and in case you guys do not know who was in the building right now we got the legendary [ __ ] ice-t in a building makes up but this is one of the first questions I have ice is because most people that is have the experience have the years and have the game with that light go what happened to the light man oh geez in the game yes I mean again yes sir as long as you have are not social media savvy yeah they're not on Instagram they're not on Twitter yeah they're not on these are ways that their fans can actually hit you why did you feel that you embraced social media in my opinion well you know when I when I when I first started we serve of fan clubs you know and people would write in and then we could send them back stuff and I had my homies shiny shine ran the fan club and it was very important to get my fans on board and to make them feel like they was part of stick whatever whatever my movement was so when I got into it I looked at out I wasn't really into Facebook I don't have a face money though because I I I'm I'm two sided with the nori one I like to let people know but I'm very private to and I know that social media is the number one tool of law enforcement not that I'm breaking the law anymore but you just given given a muhfucka so much information about yourself and all the people that watch you on social media aren't necessarily your friends your enemies could be laying in right there too and pop up on your punk ass wherever the [ __ ] you know so you decide where you generate wanna lead lead a [ __ ] up to your front door really I don't know you don't know so I got into Twitter I liked how fast Twitter was and I just got on there and I found a way that I could actually talk to my fans and some Pete it was a cool feeling I mean I blocked you know if you say block you got blocks with the quick I got a zero dumb [ __ ] if you say anything to meet it you would normally not say to me in the street even a bad joke will get in blah right like I'm like oh you think we'd have much friends now that I learnt a mute button is better than the block what what is that a new boy Oh mute is if somebody says oh you know some dumb [ __ ] talking to you you hit mute and they don't know they block so they keep on talking uh [ __ ] are talking to no there so they know they don't get the you know some people they like it all yeah I got iced tea to block brother like that's some type of bad [ __ ] dumb [ __ ] honor or some [ __ ] you don't so I just mute you you think you still talking to me but no more let's make some noise for drink cans learn about the I want you to take me because um a lot of old G's we they criticize this error and now they consider me oh gee yeah I sort of criticized this error but the realest error a lot of people say the 90s but the realest error was actually the error that took place for for two 90s when you had the self-destruction you had a day of violence the late 80s so I want you to describe to me that like what would first of all like in that same vein yes what when you first got in the game what year was that well I started my first record came out like night well early 86 96 yeah yeah my first single was 82 so could you know I was using the moon breaking right yeah yeah but but I made records with melly-mel and all that kind of stuff on my first album and you know I believed it radio and hip hop steers the bus - what music is so at that time the bus was aimed toward groups like Public Enemy tour care arrests one so as an artist you knew they were in the studio you knew Ice Cube was over here dropping some [ __ ] you get old boys was coming so you knew you could keep it gangsta but you had to have a political aspect to it you just couldn't be just talking on nonsense you had to come and break it down so when you know okay Rock Em's in the student you know who else is out there you had to bring a bar up to that our attempt to attempt to you know do your best so there was a degree of difficulty and agree agree of a respect you wanted along with being able to have a good record like I didn't people go like yo man I didn't want people say oh I like your beat I like [ __ ] to walk up to me say your ice thank you thank you for what oh man I was you know I was going up north I was listening to you played yourself you but let me ask you cuz I'm so you came out before NWA yes so you are technically the first gangsta rapper lover not true thank you to is I give the credit to school Edie oh really yes school yeah cuz I was making my records and stuff but I wasn't known and I was in the club and I heard PSK go and it did she came on you know and I called it dust like the music sound like use on angels like you know I know what that is right and I got some homies estate dusted may be looking at you looking at you crazy like are you like me are you about to stab me yeah yes so so school edy so I researched this record and they say that PSK that's Parkside killers that's that's that's a Philly gang so he was singing about it a gang called Parkside killers so I was like him this survivor that song so when I went in and makes 6:00 in the morning I kind of used the vibe and the cadence alright now we're looking like drink jam your eyes are yes so I used the vibe in the cadences of PSK to do my first song which was would he say PSK making that green I say 62nd oh he's at my door ok and and then a cube sad day boys in the hood is part 2 to 6 in the morning so six in the morning police at my door the boys in the hood are always huh you know so everyone was riding that same kind of cadence in that that smooth vibe but you know I took I took school Edie and I made it really graphic we would we had whose ease and hand grenades and but what I'm trying to say is even school Edie like for people that know the school Edie is but he wasn't like a big figure right so what makes you say I'm gonna take this chance and stick with it because you did six in the morning but you kept going but see the thing of it was like I wasn't no rapper like I was and I was in the streets for real for real and I just happen to get a chance to rap so I would try to rap like New York rappers and stuff but my homies would be like y'all [ __ ] say that [ __ ] you be saying cuz I used to make gang raps I used to make raps like we do a gang rap like this let's see uh strolling through the city in the middle of the night [ __ ] on my left and [ __ ] on my right yelling cut cut cut rip that me [ __ ] I see now if you bad enough come [ __ ] with me I've seen another [ __ ] say [ __ ] again he say [ __ ] crib [ __ ] this is brim we pulled out the Roscoe Roscoe said crack I look again [ __ ] was shooting back so he fell to the ground I aim for his head one more shot that [ __ ] was dead we walked over to him took his gun spit in his face and began to run so if you see another [ __ ] laying dead in the street in a puddle of blood from his head to his feet I hope it's time all you bitch-ass [ __ ] get hit with this [ __ ] brim they get his Westside rolling 60 cut that's gangster right what year was that you rose that was in high school right now when you go to LA the most famous gang is the rolling six getting one that's cries yeah awesome yeah c4 60s right but I'm I'm from I'm from back in the day with Nell Z in kita rock no but anyway but I mean see I went to quench your signal has 60s Hoover Harlem a trait gangsters Tom Hollister DS yeah Harlem is the 30s yes so the Harlem Crips rollin 60s a trade gangster DZ Gigi's they didn't you have have a Hoover's you know and that's never basically north south so chill Oh anyway anyway whatever man so again strap Kim's from really rapping about gangsta [ __ ] so my homies was like yo [ __ ] talk about that [ __ ] we do but that's what I my truck my part of that but the point I'm trying to make is because one us in the East Coast yeah we had only her like also the East Coast we weren't public enemy commands we were fans of you don't care it's one who people we know who against them when they were preaching right so when the West Coast the first time we heard the West Coast like you made me scared to go to the west coast but what made you say that cuz I don't want to call it gangsta rap just as a reality reality ran at that point because it wasn't and it wasn't really reality because it wasn't everyone's reality it was just my reality that's why I'm saying what made you say I'm gonna put this reality rap on the forefront and the world is gonna grab a team I had no I [ __ ] like oh I just I just had to rap for the cats in my neighborhood not the people in my neighborhood that's what you got you know you hitting the stage they like [ __ ] a are set and they got rep 111 [ __ ] when you up there ice because you know then I had like diplomatic immunity because I was fussing with bounty hunters I was [ __ ] with zs boys i was [ __ ] with a theme-park boys I was [ __ ] with lots of gangs so I was I came out with the west coast on my back all the gangs right so I wasn't wearing a color [ __ ] [ __ ] is always like what Isis from sixties Isis from H where's ice isis from no news from bloodstone villains because they see me over there chasing chicks and bag him they said that Bloods was like skin that da ski people were Crips that was really really good like then Bloods are brims what does brim mean when that's the real gang the real gang were Crips in the brims a [ __ ] refers to you is cuz a brand my first to you is blood anything that's not a [ __ ] is a blood so so so everything else like if I'm five seven four five nine CRIF from a trade [ __ ] everything says [ __ ] at the end right Inglewood family that's a blood gang Piru that's a blood game they're not Piru bloods that is Piru at the park boys that's a blood gang hips yeah if you're not a crit your blood by default right right my default cousin well there's more Christian blood right yeah Cali Cali way anyway go back to this rap music so I'm in this uh turnus world right so I have to make a music that those people were relate to so without claiming the set cuz you'll notice no one claimed it set till after 92 since until after the truce even Snoop wasn't wearing all that blue we was kind of like cuz it was real you dig so everybody I was trying to just kind of like let [ __ ] know we're you know like I asked you said we're gonna let [ __ ] know where we from because New York was so powerful we had to say well look that's great but this is where we from right and we had to rap about our life and uh I didn't know I was hot until I got a call from from from San Francisco Edna Fillmore West wanted me to perform up there in the bay and that's not Fillmore slim Fillmore West is is the arena venue so we good I get the call they ask me what I do is show up there I'm like I'm not popping in LA like you know I mom that's a whole nother world okay but that's not only forty oh yeah that's that's [ __ ] seven hours way up there so so I'm like North College y'all saying you're not papa bear why would you go this I wasn't popping in LA like oh are you saying ah you know like how many [ __ ] in New York got records out right now but are they popping when tom says my record was out well I wasn't the [ __ ] in La Liga trying to make it right but they wanted me up there so I'm like really they like yeah this tell us you'll do the show sold the show out so they call me that bagel that shows sold out of it so knows I was hotter in Frisco than I was in my hometown do we want a sold-out show men oh yeah okay no more tickets except would you do another show they said would you do a magic show I did back-to-back shows in the film or sold out on one song 6:00 in the morning what are the other [ __ ] I had to do and I was like yo this [ __ ] could be really big like this is real now I'm not really making no money with this I'm still in the street I'm making money doing other things and stuff and uh you know I'm at that point where I don't you know that dilemma that Street [ __ ] running to where they want to get but I want always always wanted out of the game I didn't ever I didn't really like it I just did it at survival one of the reasons I don't drink like I'm an orphan I have no mother I have no father have no sisters oh I've read that she was off and I know it I thought that was something I guess so I always felt liquor or weed or drug would compromise my position it would put me in a position that if I hit the ground there's nobody to come get me so I just got to stay on my toes dig so I mean I mean I'm in a water is full of sharks and I gotta stay on my toes so that's D so that's one of the reasons just in case you are right right now ice if you wanted to take a shot at anything yeah we got your back yeah yeah I've been I've been like I was the designated driver before it was a term for so you mean even as a child growing up in the gang culture and I remember I remember there was in the West Coast was the people who kind of introduced us I'm not appear to credit wu-tang for that yeah but it was the term shermhead yeah this is a West Coast job it's a cigarette - charmed yeah put the PCP on songs never got hot not one no I didn't I mean I was discipline I've been contact high because I've been in the studio's but when I was younger this one cat I remember I might have been maybe 15 of younger then some guy was like you'll hit the weed you know and I'm like I don't want to hit the weedy so you as a [ __ ] if you don't hit the weed I said well I'm a [ __ ] make me hit it all right you know why you trippin why are you trippin right so now that I heat I stood my ground the next person tried to get me high he go he don't get high because if he couldn't make me do it right no one else well I just became the sober cat in the clique then when I got into the real gangster [ __ ] as it got more escalated whenever I would walk into a room and there would be a bunch of people the one person that didn't get hard I was the cat I keep my mmm you did cuz I know he probably I know he got that dang onto me that's his job if you guys have security do you let your security get high no so do you have to think about it like that I don't have suck you me so on now why ice I always I'll be honest ice I can't wait to high security but while it for years you just be you like I mean I remember one time I was shooting a movie I did not know what I was doing I did not know what I was doing here I told you to come somewhere 4:30 you got there 4 o'clock and you ain't complain or you like yakamoto supposed to be here [ __ ] that make that type of music we know who is official I can listen to you I can lessen the mob deep I can listen to different records you know P mo P I look you know if I'm going political I like dead presidents I like that press I know who and I can I can we do the phony [ __ ] to it I'm like how many bricks you so I kind of like I was I'm a fan so that that comes into play and then also like I say all I have is my word and I'm not see I'm the kind of person I have people that work for me right so if I can't be on point how do I expect them to be on line so I have to bide to set that example so I don't like being late I like to stand on my work I mean you're gonna show up late to a drive-by these numbers are don't smoke and don't get hot yeah is do you take life too seriously do you take life too serious not at all I mean I enjoy life I see it forward it is I made it this far I'm I'm just a more laid-back person I'm just a cool person you know I'm not I don't like to brag I don't talk about myself that like in that if you don't ask the question I'm gonna tell you you know the people say with them he's so cool I'm like well how you get name I snake it like really you know Isis everybody wants to be ice in the hood that's a great name that's a very you know people like damn could be ice can you be you know so they gave like Bishop on said [ __ ] you got that name [ __ ] can't take that name can you you they're gonna lie and winter yeah you guys take their name from me so you know can a [ __ ] name ice be real AG all the time and excited and uptight and [ __ ] that doesn't work because you set off in my opinion when when these calls we had gangster rap but it wasn't it wasn't reality rap it wasn't guys had mob style we don't mob something come up before you didn't know but after it okay trust me I know in them so you were gonna win when I think of West Coast I'm gonna think of gangster rap write your name is one of the first it's not V first write it and and you and you you coined that so then everybody else kind of gravitated because I believe NWA came okay but the word gangster rap wasn't out with me the word gangster rap came out in yes because cube in and straight out of Compton he says from a gang called [ __ ] with attitudes he didn't say from a group he said from a gang so he represented his clique as a gang and then then depressed coin gangster rap I didn't have a name until they gave it that name but I was but that's why I after they did that I said well if since that's gangster rap then I'm sorry okay no you are so so that's when it went backwards okay that's now gangs rebel Dean I'm the old there's no gangs you flipped everybody's wig at one point at one point we're sitting back and we see this Bishop DOM and pimps I see these pimps up movie we see an iceberg see yo see this slide died a fool to some magnetic bro yeah and the way you did it and the way you spoke we know that you wasn't frightened it is we know that you are will and how the pimps accepted you but now it was that unlike prior to your gang look it what thing of it was is I was in the streets hustling so I I didn't sell I tried to sell coke once but then everybody took the money and ran off like I gave I I gave it out to my friends and they all came back short what I had left I was just able to make the money that I bet I can't do this no more but then when I was in the housing is that story understand this you know you give out the joke to your friend over and he comes back with a story my money but it didn't work like this now I was more we was more basically jewelry store robberies robbing jewelry stores doing things of that nature but when I was in the Army I got connected to a pimp named a troll I made sure I used to go hang out at his house and he said you cut for this game [ __ ] you got them light eyes you not too much turned on by the man arm it's a pitiful no no no no my buddies my buddy in the army his girlfriend's sister was a huh a prostitute so what so when his girlfriend is in the army oh no Hawaii it's like open season you know cuz you have all that military I mean Hawaii I was in the arm the Rangers so they have a ranger okay so my boys spy sir you know I don't like using names cuz I don't know where these [ __ ] are at this moment he might be working for IBM I'm a boy spice it his girl was was her sister so so I was like yeah we gonna go to this party this weekend but but flower we would go over there and it was my man may chose house full of hoes uh-huh so he would look at me be like yo me know when I say hoes you mean worked in prostitute okay guys you know working girls lawsuits and and they would work in on the island of Oahu you've got MIT you have no Navy you have Navy you have a Marines there and have army and it and those guys only have a weekend they don't have a lot of time to create a relationship slide then you have a lot of tourists there so my saying the US government sent your holes well I'm the same prostitution is accepted in certain houses but they keep it every it's always been in the military it's a lot of it's a lot of guys on that island right right so kind of like it was a good place to get your pimping so I'm over there in the homeboy was just like yo you cut for this and this side in the third and I'm like yeah you know I'm saying but I'm in the service and so then when I got home we was we was when we would rob and [ __ ] we had girl he was working plastic like he think it's time I faded sliding credit cards it's an old game that's an old game [ __ ] was getting the microfilm and we were making the credit cards and we had the military IDs we were printing them and [ __ ] we've been doing that [ __ ] for years that's nothing new this new credit card game now they got a chip okay new game you can figure that one out mother they got a [ __ ] for your punk ass clean slide [ __ ] no you know how to take the credit cards are gonna that's all these [ __ ] gonna lose a Gucci belt so but anyway so I'm in that so we we would always keep females in our clique and stuff so eventually I start reading this iceberg Slim's [ __ ] not a fire I wanted to pimp on the [ __ ] you know so my girls was trying to run they was trying to they looking for they're trying to escape I remember I just one chick named Mary so I'm chimes trying to you know get her out there like oh let's go get this money and [ __ ] like that and she ran to one of my part like Isis pimping on me every like that and then he come come he to [ __ ] choosing I'm like she ain't choosing [ __ ] you were Resthaven for hold on but I was closer now I'm in pimping is not there very difficult to do all you just need is a girl this won't [ __ ] you and and hustle I wasn't no big-time pimp like uh you know Bishop in them right but you know I'm ever buy me every other [ __ ] probably done sent the [ __ ] before I mean just sending a girl to perform the act of prostitution and bring you to money okay that's what pimping is all right so I dabbled in all types of levels of the game but I was no knock-down drag-out pimp with a cat lock very difficult call me tell you something let me tell you something i watch pimps up hoes down I watched a couple of other movies and for a week I thought I was a pair I think there's my wife this story might get shut down early yeah but yeah so what happened was let me good story out Harriet oh my gosh in green a contempt story um Bishop don't walk comes to the hood lap gives me McCulloch says you don't we one of the famous players of the year war so I'm like I don't know cuz I get why he's giving in fair play to get world war but I know I'm not a pimp like that so I goes are you sleeping hi and I walk into this club and I said Oh juju good game all of them Academy it's true but how does that how does a person get into pimping I mean basically you gotta find a female ditch like hose or hose without actually without a pimp alright you know every girl knows a girl that thinks that they can use that as a method of operating we should call the strip club the indoor track you know what I'm saying so wait and then it's like they're not actually prostitutes but they're working inside a little element but it's still the anytime you actually given somebody some type of sexual behavior of any kind for money that you don't like them mmm you're prostituting yourself even a woman who's going out to dinner with a guy for a pair of shoes and stuff like that she's actually prostituting herself even in this business sometimes they ask us to do [ __ ] not net even sexually uni we like them and I feel like I'm giving up myself right for the money you understand but I mean I mean how do you get into any game you know uh you you you desire it you want it and then you got to find willing participants you know so I had these girls that were thieves and stuff and I was trying to turn him out and to be in Ho's but they was like they were resisting it I mean I had I had some crazy story I took one story I told him one of the movies was uh me and my partner uh Gary Burnett we uh we'd knock some broth so they was hose from up north and stuff so we got on our [ __ ] and we in their pimps know when you say up know if you took them up okay Gary okay but these [ __ ] was real prostitutes right so we want to be pimps we trying to get our more game to y'all well we figured out so we could yeah so we sent the broad so he like PO garrison to brought to the casino he ride behind her in the car trying to watch the [ __ ] and the dude in the car season starts whooping the [ __ ] ass like you got a [ __ ] following me threw her out the out the [ __ ] car she get in the car like [ __ ] how long have you been doing this like really I don't know so that night they get back to the hotel [ __ ] go to sleep they wake up the next day stole his car the hold the hose was smarter than the players in that situation so pimping is difficult and and I don't like a lot of stuff that I've been through in my life I don't promote it to as something to do I just say it was something that I've been through I'm not yet to promote anything oh all crime and all hustles are negative at the base of them you know but you know at the moment here you ever see Fargo the more I quote that line it seemed like the right thing to do at the time you know in my circumstances what was around me drug dealers killers gangsters I thought well [ __ ] since I'm flying I got long hair maybe I should be [ __ ] with these girls but I didn't make no fortune off of that I made most of my money robbing jewelry stores now make some noise for robbing jewelry stores that's what we did an occasional bang but so that's what that's what might as occasion what now I heard a story oh you have Benzino having conflict yeah Benzino actually being on the west coast and benzino's described it as you have been 200 different gang members with you he said you could have actually killed him there yeah and you walked over no I walked over to yours yeah the thing of it is is killing people it's not that simple I mean do you carry that with you forever so you can't just you know a lot of times you know it was a beef even over dispatching [ __ ] and you just choose not to do you want to sleep with that on your head that's not my thing you know I'll protect myself but I'm not that I'm not gonna attack a person so um but what happened was back during the cop-killer days I said one of Hat cop-killer songs well that's the low farm Warner Brothers Warner but he's with a group called Mara so oh my tiara so yeah so what happened was when I pulled out for Warner Brothers because the president was after me and [ __ ] got hot knighted upon pulling the source magazine came down said Isis a coward he gave in I might have my coward the president United States it's out to me this is real [ __ ] wait wait wait wait wait so you just said wait yeah you just said the cop killer record yeah got hot and then and then the president it was a wish son of a bush it was a son of a bush Papa Bush yeah yeah yeah Bush was on my ass and so was Dan Quayle and they said they was after me they was like they was at Maple Park enough yeah they maybe one of my head they was a copy alley North one to try me for sedition which is punishable by death they was on my bunker yeah it was on my bumper for this song cocktail it's the major situation so you know we pulled the record off from Warner and all the rap [ __ ] had something to say about it like oh you know giving in now Chuck B stood his ground said look if y'all ain't in the war you shouldn't comment on the battles you don't know what's going on this [ __ ] is real real Secret Service pull my daughter out of school inch a sir was I connected to paramilitary organization or II this is the problem when the president says your name the deepest background check of your life happens instantly they know you everything from your shoe size to your mother's blood type why because this next question could be what do we know about him they can't be he's a rapper all right like this is this this is this is this is it happens instantly so when that happens to you you feel it all right so long story short I'm going through this [ __ ] so RSO Benzino and them come out and make some statement your eyes teased a sucker cuz he pulled and because he pulled that car oh you mean pulled that on the zips he pulled the record I'm pulled the rapper cop-killer was on on the first body count album okay I pull cop killer off and put a record called freedom of speech okay I did it because I didn't want them to pigeonhole me and in my career right there I got a lot of other [ __ ] I need to say it's not just about this one song they were trying to take an egg out new jack city two didn't happen because of that record [Music] like if say it was bigger than rap no good so Benzino or whoever whatever spokesperson made this comment well you know I was I was I was under siege at that point I didn't need no rap [ __ ] popping off like oh this thing it is Stan the third I'm like me you don't really even know what's going on right so of course [ __ ] in my circle we knew who our enemies were we always keep [ __ ] abreast so who who's out there so they popped up on our charts like okay let's [ __ ] are as always poppin off about ice woo this [ __ ] prop you know we know who's you know who may not be a friend so we were at an event and uh there they were mmm and there I was and [ __ ] seen him before me [ __ ] on yo ain't got them [ __ ] and uh I want pre-internet yeah and I he saw two hundred [ __ ] I mean I don't know how many [ __ ] I had but I was I had the whole West Coast witness I said you know Sam say you have the whole way no West Coast with me so I just walked up on him I'm like yo man whatever you [ __ ] think I said it did all this robber I was uncalled for man I did what I had to do and it didn't affect y'all just all it is yeah well and they kind of like renege the yeah we was mad we was hard it was interview that he died yeah it was really no beef it was just a myth said that it was a miscommunication to speak yeah and that's what real men do yeah that's what real men do so you know that was it and what I bought but I want you to describe this cop killer record because you single-handedly made the world pay attention to rap by this cop killer record now anyone even right now now it's a record that these young brothers would love to praise know what make what wouldn't what made you even think about making great question record we were in the studio making you know body count and uh I was singing a song by a group called the talking head it's called psycho killer you go psycho killer sister seed and did this so I'm singing that and my drummer beat master the rest in peace goes we need a cop killer right now yeah I had no beaver police free Rodney King you know we know what the cops is doing before ride again ok ok so my [ __ ] like yo you know Vic was right on the front line so he like yo man we need a cop killer you know the cops rolled up on such-and-such they shot him they dragged his baby moms you know this Dule oh [ __ ] and so I started thinking about it and I said yeah what if somebody snapped and this went on one after the cops based on police brutality and that's the hook is cop killer is better you than me cop killer [ __ ] police brutality cop killer I know your family's grieving [ __ ] them cop killer tonight we get even and so it's it was more about this guy who lost his mind based around police brutality which just recently happened now people actually have started taking off on the cops it took a little while but I predicted it I wasn't promoting it I just I I was singing the third you know the first person I'd become different people in my wreckage that's just part of the art you know I could sing it's like if I was a heroin addict and I never been on it but I can sing and act like it and give you the imagery of it she did so now you but that scrutiny it started from the president the president said you they started with the Fraternal Order of Police out of Dallas Austin Texas out scary they came out because during this they said you can't perform it no they just said that Warner Brothers put out this inflammatory record and they should be banned and boycotted and in Charlton Heston came out and and they just went on one because at the time the cops were under siege for doing the same [ __ ] they doing now this was back then so the best way to take the heat off them is to attack somebody else so they picked me kind of like the Willie Horton thing they picked me as a target and so they came down like dude I'm sitting at the house let me date myself we were playing techno voll owe me that so I'm playing techno blow and [ __ ] comes my one of my home he's like yo Isis on TV right now the president is talking [ __ ] about your son he like yo really for real we like this to be change the channel it's kind of baby Quayle the vice president and ice-t NICUs was like did you ever didn't want him oh [ __ ] like oh like and we knew this was big treat you like al-qaeda issues and then it just started to happen you know you could feel them you know that I got tax audited three times into two year period I had ice cream trucks sitting in front of my house in the middle of the winter because they had to really figure out was I trying to call people the arms with which I wasn't it was just a record just a protest song so you know I lived through that and I found out who my friends were you know they don't care about hip hop hip hop came back you but when hip hop backs you hip hop is one big [ __ ] just it's just one [ __ ] I don't give a [ __ ] how many rappers come to your aid that's just one [ __ ] you need someone outside of hip-hop the back if you get in trouble all around can band together we are all just one you need maybe Quincy Jones you know who's not considered a [ __ ] you know someone round but yeah no that's what they'll do that when he cut if he came out the same neck oh well you know he's a rapper and they'll throw him in there with the rat he's a [ __ ] now yeah yeah you need someone outside you know Martin Scorsese here's someone to come in back wheel Tarantino in the back you someone who's unexpected to back you so anyway I took the heat and you know I wrote it out like you know I didn't bring anybody else into it I didn't say hey this other rap group of this rock group I just handled it myself the way I've been you know I was raised by Jesus and I still adhere to that code you know that's your drama you deal with it dig so I dealt with it you know I mean it was you Dan uncle Luke yeah cuz if you first then uncle grand uncle Luke then death row then death row they wo n w8 Noah bit to you first all right but I'm saying they dealt with one along the lines you write it right loose out in the NWA yeah yeah I got it the president was on there FBI yeah yeah FBI was thought yeah but then we know they dropped death row with Ted Turner because they were concerned it was it was a ripple of fat Dionne Warwick was involved and all these people yeah Delores Tucker let me give you a jeweled out there it's not hip-hop that they were afraid of they were afraid to facted white kids we're getting this information it's like as long as you sing to the hood no one really cares because they already say we one big [ __ ] but once we express it and they see their little daughters is walking around [ __ ] the police and cop killer and then now you're infecting the rest of the world and that's when you become a threat right so that's when they saw me have you know thousands of white kids yelling [ __ ] police with me they be like we got a deal with this cat right cuz he's infected that's why one of my elves was called home invasion we've invaded your kids you know we're in yeah yes you can interview do an interview in the magazine you dumb questions yeah so one well how long have been an MBA talking about so now the cop killer yeah one of my favorite brackets of all time still to this day is created I still want a career I actually think I created this record although but I didn't do it justice you do the girls I am if y'all know the record if you have real hip-hop now you've made I'm gonna open in another bottom we already got a bottles open come over here come over you to Barbara relax relax that's my new [ __ ] right there everybody if you will hip hop the sing-along help me sing along ice I am a nightmare walking Psychopaths talking yo yo foot when um what was the movie did you write a before it was that was that before the movie did you ever even or read it go let me take it to where we was going live to where I was going I had heard of California this time what year was colors can you google it that's gotta be like 92 though I think you got well I had heard a California we had we had we had we had you know hey Dan we're all patients of California but this is the first time in my opinion this is the original California laughs mm-hmm and when I heard that when i sync the movie i had no idea that was poppin off right what the [ __ ] was going on in the west coast all I used to see was beaches right yeah I had no idea you killed in California so colors kick like I had no but it's just like I didn't know yeah what colors from the four colors was yeah colors what happened with colors was they was doing this movie called colors Dennis Hopper was directing it and apparently they it was gonna be a Warner Brothers film and due to the fact it was Warner Brothers film I was the first rapper assigned to Warner Brothers so they've gone of course look at my music first so they had they wanted to use a song idea called squeeze the trigger off my first album and the movie was already done you got a movie still good so they got that they got uh they got this scene with Don Cheadle in it you know rocket he was listening to my songs right he's so lucky so I'm like well let me if you wanna if you want to use my song let me see the movie that's right axes there so I got to see the movie so I'm looking at the movie I'm like okay there's some wrong [ __ ] in it because at the time the blacks wasn't fighting the Mexicans you know there was some other stuff but I'm like it still kind of gives you an overall you know most real [ __ ] is when you see the tank in in the county with 3800 and Crips and bloods across with the fence you are in jail yeah the powerful yeah but they never let that main [ __ ] out at the same time again there's the same where you see them and then I'm gonna add the [ __ ] module and you see the [ __ ] module on one side in the blood module okay and they're in that yeah so that's not true no they never let that many people out and also in jail you don't wear all the colors like that oh so they let him in jail you're in a uniform body but they showed it like that too kind you know so I'm sitting there so I'm like I'm not gonna critique down I'm happy they're making a movie now when they wanted to do the movie first they said let's shoot it in Chicago and then Dennis Hopper said let's shoot it in LA the people said we have gangs in LA that would have been about Chicago well they did they wanted to make a movie about gangs but they didn't know there were games in LA that year 360 kids had died almost one a day in LA but no one even it wasn't spoken it's like black lives matter no one talks about us we were just getting killed so so I'm like okay so I watched the movie so I said do they have a title song and they had a song and if you want to track the movement get this color soundtrack b-side last record is a song by Rick James called colors it's wack it's my great Gintama look at all these colors you know Rick Jane that son like no I can't [ __ ] that's why I told a fricative who was producing me at the time let's make a record I said I know this gang [ __ ] like the back of my hand I mean let's take him in the brain of a gangbanger so at the time I was vibe and here's another something you never know I was vibing off a king son's record mythological mythological myth the minimus a lot remember he comes on when I get ill it's a reason cuz it's duck season why am a nightmare walking psychopath talk mythologic 5y I think rap we in your influence in each other you're not biting cuz you never know but I'm like yo I'm coming in like King son because he said when I get ill it's a reason cuz it's duck season hunter of the front you know I just came in I am a nightmare walking psychopath talk same [ __ ] so I wrote the song did the video it was so big people thought I was in the movie people walking to me like y'all saw you in colors yeah I'm not in the movie I know I saw the movie so many times but now the song might be bigger that movie was single Hanley the introduction to California lifestyle and put me in the game because all my other records I was still bubbling but that was a national hit that mean that crossed all and that and everybody wanted to see the guy that made color so I went out on a dope sham tour with Eric B Iraq him Dougie fresh kool Moe Dee Biz Markie and I was out there with them I was only Wes Wes Cole said only well it's been crazy we'd perform that song and now we shut him down and you know it's funny cuz Eric being them was kind of like you know la [ __ ] they had that New York [ __ ] going and they you know they had to change and Supreme make Matt mathematic magnetic was a layer from decepticon yeah Brooklyn so we got we I my infidelity owe me my you know I've got my own Intel I'm like the i8 I like okay he's the one watch him he's a shooter we watch around the club [ __ ] I don't walk in there I know what I know what's going on so it is like okay this one's live and there's one right there and he's cool so they was looking at us they had no idea who we were and then we showed up David like oh these are la gang members like crazy we had all that we had just the same [ __ ] they had but that's Coast version of it and when I hit the scene I came out and I opened with colors on the tour and this [ __ ] rocked like I just came out that [ __ ] you you and the whole stadium and English and all of a sudden care arrests one start talking to me everybody on the tour I realized that I was pulling my weight and we all became close friends where I came in our friends today but they were sizing me up out the gate ya know but did you understand that colors in an awake like right now you can look at you going at the Harlem and I'm sure cuz you you live in New York for real right now you're not a fake Yahoo just business New York Jersey you around you've been around places IV a time wisely I saw put it here so did you ever think that from colors that New York would be gangbanged in the way New York is I still don't truly understand it like I roll with Treach a lot right and trust me blood it's over in Jersey with the Bloods but you know I can't really get it totally understand it but one thing I do understand is respect a [ __ ] would have done you know I'm gonna walk up to it [ __ ] say were you a fake gangbanger you like it it's a fake bullet take this you know so I don't know you know when when you're from LA and you hear guys in other cities saying they're Hoover Crips but they never seen the street or they you know you know whatever you know they're 60 but they're from Florida someone like how's that possible come on sixties is the street and he's almost all of my 30th Street 2 4 th Street eh-eh-eh SAT 3rd Street it's usually the hottest Street and that ten block radius is the street that gets name like 111 s 12 oh so so you know i I've learned but I know how it happened what happened was when the drug trade really hit and it stopped coming through Florida it started to come through Mexico and this is all game but what happened was the coke became less expensive in California and as it moved across the country it became instantly like a key would double so everybody in LA was trying to put the game on the road so you got a cousin in Seattle right so you send a couple of homies up to Seattle and you say okay at this point y'all [ __ ] is playboy gangsta Crips because that's what set we from and these [ __ ] are from Seattle and they don't really know about it but then there's something like more yeah we take these [ __ ] and get them khakis and [ __ ] like that then maybe you might send a [ __ ] from LA to put some work in ain't never seen violence like that before you know they turned out they moving weight and this happens all over the country [ __ ] coming from st. Louis so there's somebody from LA to took that gang out there now are they respected in LA well to an extent but you can't come I don't care if you from whatever Wyoming or whatever and you come to LA and you actually in Hoover's hood and you claiming Hoover you gonna bow down brother country that actual Street the [ __ ] on that block that's the G's so uh you know III when I was up in Harlem and I met some blood right so I was like yeah guys we blood so I'm like like that I said okay like that he said he was a CREP right and they like yeah it was cool I'm like what useful he got it cool with me you know I regulators really banging on right I say well gang banging is the act of murder so then they was like they was lasted so much to show me a blood sign so they did like this I was like turn it upside down I said that's a blood sign too they were excited they were like yeah that's a Piru oh okay we okay so we Debbie how does they turn it upside that's a blood sign like I'm giving him gang tutoring they were like thank you like man but nobody that comes from that wants it to happen right the gang thing happened we were young kids was out there we protecting the neighborhood and it got taken out of control once the drugs came in once the drugs came in its split into little sets so now Crips is fighting Crips Bloods [ __ ] don't care what color I'm saying back then perps wasn't fighting Chris because they seemed like cribs always happy for Crips no no no no no no if he was a [ __ ] he was a crazier but now it sets the sets just splintered they splintered so say for instance we are one [ __ ] set and then you got the sack and you like [ __ ] weed inori Crips now even us for dis splinter hmm and that's what had he said cuz the price of the drugs went down like when Escobar went down and it all started going through Mexico blamin that's greed it's three respects it's just greed it's like well did change the trading yeah the Trey came to LA but read greed is this you he's the boss you start counting his money soon as that's a side [ __ ] starts counting the boss's money you have the potential for deceit anything could happen so you always telling me man or he's making a little bit too much money you why are you counting the boss's money man why are you worrying about what he's making and eventually you gonna say man let's go this way and that happens it's in any type of organism gang culture let me ask you a question and gang culture can they ever beat one leader or no yeah the leader of each set I roll with a dude named Tony Bogart who was the leader of imperial court so the PJ wat scripts which is a whole project and I seen him walking to her like a rec room a woman had I seen honey [ __ ] stand up and like when he and get quiet until he came in and they sat down I'm like yo you know that was a G but they killed him Wow you know he's gone I mean you know the thing about gang membership be saying about crime period is everyone is a liar a cheater a thief a double I mean you're dealing with a group of bandits okay so anything could [ __ ] happen you know you hope there's loyalty inside of it but you're doing a bunch of murderers everyone is cold-blooded you know to your vet your ideas to get the [ __ ] out of there as soon as possible you know that's why I'm square as a pool table twice as green I wouldn't steal a nickel off the mantelpiece man I'm I'm not I'm not really you know I'm fortunate I live through it but it's not what I'm about no more I don't want to live like that Manus is crazy now I see you survived the are the scrutiny from the cop killer record mm-hmm you you you you you pull out the colors record color ruckus bring you everywhere and now where is I sad when he hears end of your way oh the police well you remember we'll use that when you well I knew you know I knew NWA cuz NWA used to open for me we used to go yeah you just said that man nonchalantly around colors too as well thank you you gonna do cube date then I take out NWA we would all tour together would be NWA ice-t do see and then when ez put out his record they split and they tried you know do it easy with another group and we would all go all over the place together we used to fight together we used to get out there and get it gone cuz we were west coast you know Cuban me like brothers I loved cubed like we were close I used to UM when they came out with [ __ ] the police we was out there rapping without their rapping and they hit him in the head with that I'm like oh [ __ ] but see I always knew the first time you heard it was on tour word though yeah because easy and I were playing it before they dropped it so I heard it on a radio I'm like oh y'all [ __ ] about to go there say I used to say [ __ ] the police on my shows right so I don't when I would before I would do 6:00 in the morning I would go out and I would say yo the police told me I can't do this song right and then I was like if the audience picked up and I was like yo I say [ __ ] the police and the crowd went crazy so maybe a little light went off and Easy's heads like I just say I say I had an echo I said my name is ice-t I got a rep like a Killa Killa no one gets Wilder no one gets illa-allah I don't get high I don't drink Miller Miller but if your girls empty I'm sure I can fill a villa I make stupid ass records cuz I just don't care [ __ ] can't even play my [ __ ] on the air but y'all know you like it you say you want more cuz every time I leave the crib to go to the store I hear six in the morning police at my door like honest I was I was with them at the time and you know it was a it was it was a movement and I always knew and to me honestly NWA I needed NWA because I was by myself and to have four more cats rolling on the yeah yeah yeah we weren't enemies so it was like and you know now it they would always hit harder to me because I'm one rapper versus a gang the [ __ ] rapping and it sounds better when people are spitting on top of each other but and then they wrote some incredible records then they had you know drag the name ball I don't know no no some different air it gives me the humans from 120th Street I'm from the 40s and like so I knew dub C dub C used to be beatbox for clientele who was in the wrecking good so I but that's the thing la is a small tree like you guys hip-hop over here's a big tree everything in LA is either NWA and who they became The Syndicate my crew and who they became which included Cypress Hills never lies which proves ever laughs when does the same and and Aladdin them or a few groups Iran delicious vinyl whose tone low-key and young MC so if there's beef in LA you can call me cube Snoop you know and shut it down because there's only it's everyone comes up from under us so that's why they only time they resemble beef from the west coast was family feud when they fought and everybody just had to step back cuz how i'ma get between easy and Cuban I know you know it's a family feud so when rushed of all these came out yeah you know exactly what they was gonna go through at them no I had no idea because because you were the first we were hardcore rap though they weren't really [ __ ] with us like that I'd have no idea that the police would intervene right I had no idea they were actually the body counting yet mm-hmm yeah after we were going through cursing [ __ ] if that 92 is so far tamales came out first yeah yeah yeah I got my history [ __ ] yeah yeah no cop killer came up no no no cop killer didn't come out to uh body count didn't come out to the og out right now so that was later but they did it first and we were already getting in trouble for cursing this is how [ __ ] shows all this Oh it shows oh this is the looting and the if you curse we're gonna arrest you yeah that was you can't curse so they would show up at the show and show us that [ __ ] and then what we would do is we would do the show and the cops would be on the side and they used to shut the lights off and I would run jump off into the pit and run out the side so we would run from the cops and then we would get the tour bus and we would get to the next stage he really paved the way far yeah that's just what a total perspective yeah when a person says it like that like his Luke said it and and I thought Luke was being bad who was being bad for Carson I thought was bad but being polgár oh yeah you say in the Bible Belt when you're down there oh yeah that's that's yeah they were running that so kinda still like that they would show up at the show with a piece of paper that says if you curse we will shut the show down Wow and that was my cue to go harder like yo [ __ ] that you know I'm saying we gonna come out here and I would always say the police are not on me and you know that just got the [ __ ] even more crazy but but my whole thing was I had already been breaking the law right so so whatever this charge was was nothing I was like compared to what I was doing i'ma go to jail for talking kiss my [ __ ] ass let's go you know and I had money and I'm like LaBella I mean I knew it was a petty charge so I'm like you know so that that was yeah we used to run from the police a lot week I come and we had a big-ass fight we had we've had lots of fights out there on the Robie we would come to towns they would they want to test you remember the big names - yo easy coming easy like they wanted to see easy like you know so easy was small so he wouldn't want a real if I'm always like take me to your leader type [ __ ] I'm 6 foot tall I'm like let's go we can go a couple rounds and then May up in this [ __ ] let's go her so I never really felt I had no problem with Street [ __ ] when I got to Detroit I'm like take me to your leader let me see who the toughest [ __ ] is I'll befriend him and I'm good I'm not here I'm here to entertain you anyway I'm not joining me I'm not here to sell you drugs a block all right you need some backstage passes you see the ball came up now we good yeah we good maybe you good now I got security you know that's how I played everywhere and it's like quick said quick said everywhere is like Compton rember the joint yeah that's like if you smart if you know I mean the same thing you do in prison like [ __ ] so before we get into all that how did ice-t wound up in harm I got in the army because when I was in high school I got my girlfriend pregnant I was I just got out of high school and uh I graduated early I was a student I was on the honor roll all that [ __ ] I graduated 20 week report card I was out I had all my credits and I started trade Technical College I wanted to do by I can paint cars I can do all kinds of body and fender and all that kind of [ __ ] that was what I thought I was gonna do pics lowriders I was into cars always been into cars and I got my girl pregnant cuz I didn't really know how easy was to get a girl pregnant you know I was just like a young big ol roughest troubles is not style I wouldn't get that much [ __ ] up to that point not so I got a pregnant I was like [ __ ] so now I got a baby coming and I'm a small-time hustler you know doing small [ __ ] you know stealing car radios nothing drugs hadn't come to nothing it nothing had come up that was gonna make me rich and I was also very athletic I was in gymnastics in high school I was doing you know parallel bars and Crenshaw High School yes I was strong I was very strong so they had a enlisting office on Crenshaw and I just walked in there and I was like you know I got to get out of the game cuz I got a kid and so I went in there and basically was picking uniforms I was like what's that [ __ ] that's infantry you get $2,500 bonus I'm like word okay and he said that red beret that's airborne you another 2,500 I was like when I can't come home I'm in no red gray I couldn't wear no red I was like yo so then I said the next one was the black beret wish you'd arrangers serious [ __ ] I like that because I would like the Black Panthers right then the next one was Special Forces the green beret but that was 52 weeks of basic our AI t way saw you was about to join the army and they tried to offer you read to you no no when I went in had miss [ __ ] when they refused the army for rent well when I went in there I was picking uniforms I just was like what am I gonna look like and then it's like well this is regular infantry this this this right here if you go you know airborne you get to wear red beret and I was like I can't come home no red beret you didn't gonna say and I was like I can't come to my neighborhood okay yeah so that's what what so then I had a black beret and green beret so I picked the black beret and uh face of these just a bunch of train and buncha athletic [ __ ] if you long as you have a good cardio you could do it you know but you just got to be disciplined you got to get used to people yelling in your face and all kind of humble Rangers is kind of tough yeah well you know if he was army you know it's better mental [ __ ] they're gonna yell at you they're gonna try to [ __ ] you up mentally but then you got it you know you deal with no hood so how did you have it how did you accept the discipline guys tell you what happened you know that you know like in that movie officer and a gentleman with a man says why are you here he says I got nowhere else to go that's the only way you're gonna make it through that training is you have to believe you have no options you can't it's not something you just say I just think I want to do right you gotta be like whether it's my other option I gotta do this and so you know the training was exciting to me and the athletic part was exciting to me the discipline stuff I realize they was trying to mind [ __ ] me so I've worked with gainst that and I just knocked it out but you know somebody KOCO Paul it's just a mom you feel that any of those skills you learned in the military helped you drive yeah when I start robbing banks yeah well when I came home when you from the service cuz I went to the service right out of high school serves the country do you spell it wrong because whatever wasn't my country yeah sure private bank dirt shirt hello yo yo you live on the podcast why ste its Capone what's up component I asked about you yeah I told them I'm gonna be here this conversation might go on I don't know what they going in we just getting halfway at the halfway point what were you at man he knows his birthday happy birthday hey I'll leave go finish this interview wise team we will hit you back where do you at the MU wi1 up that's funny when [ __ ] beyond it I'm talking on the phone are you gonna and maybe win side kiss I don't know the feds taught that [ __ ] way better than you but never that way you never I said the [ __ ] be on the phone and maybe whiz our kids like I say defense talk that [ __ ] wait baby brother they break that [ __ ] down say it's better talk regular I'm not going that much because the festival whatever my god oh my god knows the game Lee that was not good so we're gonna talk about sorry I'm not Robin [ __ ] - wait - laughter all right this would happen I'm coming so you know I see we praise foul [ __ ] you know I live yourself you're like you're like the foul [ __ ] president thanks you got up the army ever on the break when I got home when I when I left my [ __ ] was small-time criminals when I came home they had elevated their game so I'm like so what are y'all doing they said we robbing jewelry stores we get in check cashing booths we getting credit unions you know occasional banks you don't say that's like that by the bank sauce like what it was to get down now due to the fact I had all that military training I was able to up the game up and I told them you know basically any operation deals with intelligence the more you know about the mark the better so I added that to the game like lots of heavy duty case and lots of understanding what the alarms and the response times was and stuff so you know I mean there's lots of ways of doing it there's there's what's caught like with jewelry there's this basic snatch-and-grab where you just walk in and get a watch and run there's basically the bass where you knock out the glass and stuff then you've got the burglary which is a four or five nine but if you're going for the safe now I see I could give up some games a guy well if you want to hit it it's I [ __ ] it alright if you gonna rob a jewelry store robbed it at the time it opens or the time it closes why because the safes open right in the morning so what you want to do is you want to get there right when they let pull in the [ __ ] out of the safe right when they're pulling those retired out that was when so once when you see a jury store at night when they close that door at the last minute and they start to if you really want to time it let them lay the plaques up let him get everything out and up no out of the window let them do it for you so that everything is stacked right before it's getting ready going to safe that's when you wanna hit up and then you you know we're not gonna give you step-by-step details and also bottom line is with anything you do you got to do it backwards so it's not as it's not as important where to lick it is where you're gonna escape to and that has to be like a maze of how you're gonna get away about it you don't just do it and then say now where do we run this all that is all thought out one way whether you know we use motorcycles on one-way streets I could I could take a motorcycle I could hit the Jewelry District over here and put a bike and all I'm gonna do is hit one-way streets backwards right so they can't get but then do they got helicopters under the ground like you know the best way to get way ripped away from a high-speed chases take them into it a parking structure not out on the street a parking structure where now the cops gotta stay outside I can only come in one then you could ditch the car and you can go through the steps and yeah so all this stuff it said I did four years anyway and and and you're gonna end up getting killed or murdered at some point because but yeah I done it and whatever bank robbery but the thing of it is most times it's just - wait you rob a bank you play a note you play a teller you go for the vault what you saw in the heat is a takeover re where they would take the whole ball you dad that's a lot of exposure I was I was around casted went into vault and stuff like that but you got a you gonna be in there a long time you know most times people just walk up and play the note and just get the one teller or else not a squat you said no the note you just walk up and you just say I got it gonna give me the money and it is hand you the [ __ ] money that's called playing and no that's not easy that's the easiest way rob banks it doesn't matter well it's des that's those are ink packs they still got them yeah they're back then yeah yeah but you know what at the end of the day I feel very uncomfortable talking about this the thing of it is is fun and also I'll also like a lot of my friends are still incarcerated so you know from day in they're saying they didn't do it here I am saying we did it you know that's not good but you know it was it was a time and um you know when I got that chance to rap I jumped in I didn't you know cuz I knew my days is numbered in lo digits I knew that that wasn't gonna last when you're hustling like that you make a lot of money then you spend it you make a lot of money didn't you spend it you're up and down your does Alixe know and you make it and you spin it and it wasn't you know you I don't I didn't see a long life like that so when the rapping came along I was like damn you know I could do this and then I tried to rap like New York and the [ __ ] was like half of what we do well if we invent what we call the crime Ron Ron based around that and I got archives and archives of that [ __ ] so I started making stories and the stories like I call it faction so it's it's factual occurrences put into a fictional scenario so things I'm saying did that happen did that yeah really a year to have him they couldn't you know combine them so the story sounds really real because the [ __ ] really happened but just not in that particular order I said does that make any sense yeah he briefly mentioned I think it's we need to talk about a little more rhyme syndicate yes which might be one of the first crews in hip-hop yeah maybe bdp if I'm cynic is yeah around the same era yeah and who all the members of I'm sending Ronson Everlast house of pain you know house pain ever left yes um what happened was you know when I was trying to when I decided I wanted to rap I had to kind of like leave my crime friends alone and get with these rap [ __ ] write something with all these different rap people and I would seem like I was gonna make it first so I said to homies I said if I make it I'm gonna try to help y'all so I was reading up I'm an avid reader so I was reading it you know Luciano had started this thing called the Commission the Commission where it was a group of groups with one Conte one common goal a syndicate is an organization with a group of groups with one common goal so basically we're not I'm not the boss you're the boss you're the boss you're the boss of your own organization your network but we agreed to sit down and talk before we fight right huh so that's what a cynic it is so I wasn't the I I guess brought groups in it's kind of like the West Coast Julie nation really kind of like but I knew LA wasn't really gonna ride with the Afrocentric said they was too gangsta so I created a term called The Syndicate and we had low profile within it which was dub C of course uh when we had when we had mugs mugs was in a group called seven a three at the time it was a DJ and of course Everlast divine styler Donald D from the Bronx where was ever less is from where he's ever less from LA he was like from the valley and when it he came he was brought to me by a guy named Bilal Bashir and it ever last first sounded like Rakim when I heard him he was rapid now new Raptors were rapping someone else's voice and I'm like sound dope but you gotta use your own voice you know and so once he found his own voice he started to rap him stuff but it was just my way of I got Everlast a record deal I got Devine styler a record deal I did a compilation album it was just a way of me trying to help West Coast [ __ ] you know and and try to create peace versus war okay so now which is not profitable New York City classic but that is sold disrespect relax I love as my your lats cuz that's how this how much vision Jackson it means to me no Jackson is not only a New York class right it's not only a hip-hop class right it's not only it's a worldwide cinematic but I need to know you as being the most gangster risk gangster you you you had the 60s on your back when it wasn't cool to say the sixty in you had the Crypt [ __ ] on your back when it wasn't cool to say the [ __ ] [ __ ] you had the gang [ __ ] on your back when it wasn't cool to say the [ __ ] and now you get put Zinta with this role as a cop culture but it's this joint called New Jack city and they're saying that this based on this guy was not Nino brown because Nino brown is a fictitious okay based on some cats from I'm fake from from New York City and also somebody from the bay from Frisco Brothers or something like that Cash Money brothers from New York I met the actual guy too said he was it watching a nice dude wait wait wait just wait wait wait okay Cash Money brothers I got that you're right but how does they even approach okay so what happened with New Jack city was they wanted to make this movie and they had they had written the movie and they didn't know who they were gonna get and at the time there was just not there just wasn't a lot of black actors now there's hundreds of black hackers but at the time Wesley Snipes had only done major league he's you know major right but that was he wasn't a big known active so um George Jackson and Doug man Henry Tudor the producers they decide to brainstorm they said let's just take people from pop culture Isis selling millions of Records he's a little you know kind of little pro protist pro at let's get him let's get Chris Rock he's the the most grimy knew so they just took all the people that they knew they were hot and different and said let's make a lot of never knew who Chris Rock was yeah old New Jack city let's let's try let's see if they can act so I'm in a club in Mario Van Peebles was in the club and us mama he says to me he heard me under your fault my thought off the roof he said he heard me in the toilet I was talking [ __ ] to somebody you look bad I was on my [ __ ] I was like saying I say that I said yeah [ __ ] chambers if the [ __ ] could get a microscope and find one molecule or me to gave a [ __ ] then they could angle me but they can't angle me cuz there's not a molecule that it gives us a [ __ ] so he said whoever said that's gonna be the star of my movie right so I was on this on my t-shirt so I'm out there and now now I'm parlaying with three females talking my [ __ ] you know trying to sell him a dream so I'm in the middle of it and then he walks over says hey ice would you like to be in a movie something like Hollywood [ __ ] like Omar Vittorio I'm like Hollywood [ __ ] you just four people there are no Mario Van Peebles is that was the main cop yeah yeah yeah yeah and his father was in sweet sweet back badass song he's a cheap melvin van peebles so he hits me with this [ __ ] about being in the movie something like [ __ ] you just trying to talk to these girls like you know I introduced him to the females he's like no serious show up at Warner Brothers tomorrow we got this so yeah we changed numbers and you were already on Warner Brothers as a record Liam everything revolves around Warner Brothers are at the time so I show up at his thing and I look at the script I'm a Spectre I'm gonna get four or five lines sorry Scotty's part I'm like yo this the whole movie so I'm like really I'm not act we said you can do it this [ __ ] got dreads like like and they were like and he's a cop I'm like hey I don't know I don't know so I got home I start talking to people you know I talk to my boys I'm like yo they want me to play a police in the movie man what you think where could I be in the movie [ __ ] from jail was calling me I'm like yell yeah blah yeah yeah we sent the package and all that but uh yeah you know I know you and the balance of the devil I understand every midden wanted to play the police right now what do you feel about that in the movie word if I was out could I be in the movie so no one was saying no everybody was like [ __ ] that's an opportunity positive and then then the girls where I used to get my hair did I to get my hair done twice a week I had my [ __ ] permed up you know more wavy didn't ships in the Navy he know you know I got the Kim sharpest steak knives up in this [ __ ] you think I said I got out match a [ __ ] woman for I can she can understand what I'm saying early shot so I was sharp and the girls at the beauty parlor they was like no I'm from the hood I called the beauty parlor I'm not no [ __ ] salon it was like I said they want me to kill a police they're like I you got to do it [ __ ] cuz you're gonna be running real [ __ ] and when you get over you ain't gonna forget the hood you gonna tell everybody what the [ __ ] going on [ __ ] and if you don't do this movie don't come back up in this month alright so the sisters sent me out on that mission and I did the movie I was [ __ ] nervous but now they know this this this story took place in New York didn't matter it was just its opportunity opportunity gag you know Laurie I believe this man we come from a background with no opportunities and we always are you know upset about that when you get an opportunity and you don't take it and you a real-life sucker you know saying you're a real-life sucker because my vision of you bitching about it and now you get it and you don't take it you gotta put the Jets on when you get that opportunity because they don't get up so I got that opportunity so you took it I went and I tried my best to do the movie I was nervous this is at the same time original gangster came out this is my biggest album I was platinum I was like yo like I might [ __ ] this is all off but then you're not telling me you had a choice between going on tour album and do new jack so with no tour at the time but my album was hot so III add new jack city was can I risk this and didn't [ __ ] up my record it's my record is high yeah but but now when you got the script did they tell you to act as that was attached to it on the air I didn't care long go play a cop the caller was gonna then I had a record out and ruin everything that goes right and what my [ __ ] except me I was worried you know I know he's been more concerned with my friends my close friends whether they're in prison our home that's been my thermometer on what if I'm doing what's right I gotta keep their respect and my money is his Street [ __ ] and they they love like a corny [ __ ] they told me yo a hustle is supposed to get the money by any means by the path of least resistance men and television has a lot less resistance than 25 to life [ __ ] so do the right thing get that vapor I stopped playing do your numbers things so so now I'm where was I yeah New Jack city you were contemplating whether it was whether to do it I was struggling but I did the damn movie and it was successful and I was scared like I they said we're gonna put dreads on you because we want people not to just see ice-t we want him to give them a chance for you to be another care of that if they're so familiar with you and I remember I went to the movies like after he came out I was sitting behind some [ __ ] and and I heard him together look at iced tea with that [ __ ] look crazy [ __ ] me oh you're not gonna move you ain't let me off to yelling okay I want to get a real response in you [ __ ] about 5 10 minutes into the movie 15 minutes I'm chasing Chris Rock they like get it Scotty they start calling me Scotty name that was pissed when you call I was like but no it's pretty cool but I was like I'm pulling this [ __ ] like they're rolling with ya did the movie was a huge success no negativity hip-hop embraced me and everybody you know nobody even tripped off the cop thing those like me you acting that's a job and enrolling like that ever since you know everything is active so that was your first movie role that you fell in love with on first movie I actually got to speak mmm no no I was in those other movies breaking back in the day I was a feature wrap talk yeah but then you then you get the call about to do a movie with Denzel yeah [ __ ] then we got earlier Wilson uh but you get to call that was my next movie the Denzel movie yeah from Joel Silver one of the biggest producers in history he does the matrix whose name of this movie cliche right Ricky shaved and selling oh let's try you cuz cuz this is the crazy she just passed you know is that Vince am right he's he's he's dead he ain't got the Zell yet haha it just did yeah and you do this movie did you know that this [ __ ] is going to be the illest act in the world and did you know him when did you it was I mean to meet Denzel cuz you heard of this cell prior today but I just knew 10 cell Washington was the big was the biggest actor I ever worked with you know I remember I was just working with just new people I'm working with Judge Nelson honor Denzel why I knew gens I watched was I was Wesley wasn't really big when Russ these women would love and Denzel then I was this [ __ ] he was the pill he's like Billy Dee was so when I met Denzel he just he came down to my level he was like look man I've been on television I did this and I'm just here and we just getting ready to go do this and I never forget I was in the first scene with him and uh you know these really good actors they'll laugh and joke and go action know bam they'll hit that care measure doctor no that's not method okay method acting is what method I get they're [ __ ] yeah I was on a set with a method actor and I called him his real name yeah yeah I'm Joe like it's crazy they won't bring us they are that per se they won't break they playing a drug addict they gonna go out and sleep with real drug and couldn't work dirty and all that all those [ __ ] acting is lying acting is lying like a if I was alive yeah if I said the next person that comes in the door at make him convince him you're my manager there's acting all right so I they said well you learn how to act I'm like standing in front of a judge and Zell was talking he was joking then they they said action and the [ __ ] jumped into character on me and I flubbed my line and make a deal like this he was like come on nice what's at it and I was like oh that's how we get him down huh like he's showing me like come on like we can we joke but I'm gonna hit my line so that's when I was like I want to learn yeah just like that dude on it's a mom home um the Ricochet but that's when I my first chance learning somebody who ki you know when actors do that and that was the Zell it's almost like they're going through they legs with the ball they playing with you they like I got I already action cam and you know come out of inte R telling other jokes you left whoa [ __ ] right so I always wanted to learn how to act like him and uh you know that but then cell wasn't like he wasn't the Oscar Warren winning that that was towards to a bum [ __ ] like me he was like nobody dancing world I was a rapper like how the hell am I even on screen with Denzel Washington really you know so I'm on one of my keys is humility and one kick y'all out the whole group this whole son there we go yeah section be [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] is hitting wax and relax I gotta pay for this okay good try it you know I didn't get any money for that like New Jack city I got I got a $6,000 and it paid on our your origins oh yeah 80 million 80 million bucks probably hundred million by now no no royalties I got paid scale my first movie and that's just how it goes yeah yeah yeah and that's not that's not that's this how to game yeah how do you negotiate you have no leverage why are you does get another [ __ ] they're getting [ __ ] a cake that put Chuck in a [ __ ] wig I know even in there they be in there rapping singer I know I knew everybody knew I can't ever replace you so after that when I went to go see Joe so my thought was gonna get paid alright so I walked to them like yeah well you know my last movie you know made a lot of money you know I'm saying I know I'm about to get paid now he goes ice-t you done one movie stuck it to me again so that movie I got like 48 for less work I didn't get any money to in movies until I did tank or where I played a kangaroo what is this movie a movie called tanker or with Lori petti and I played a player huh listen I'm doing I'm making a movie with Keanu Reeves called Johnny pneumonic I'm in Canada so I get a call from my man she says will you play a stripper in Arizona I see you [ __ ] right I'll play a stripper in Arizona so that night I did like two thousand sit-ups so the next day they send me a picture this kangaroo and it was like I was like what am i a stripper dat's a kangaroo I don't know you're a ripper a ripper a ripper is a mutated person I'm like maybe the movies did movies tanker and she sounds so generic I was like yo am I not with Keanu Reeves didn't need it I mean what the [ __ ] is going on and they told me how much money I was getting for hours I've learned the bunny hop and you ain't never seen it I was like oh yeah if you google tango right now I write hopper did you hit my bull it's like it's like a mutated Lucas imitating a person and made on the north it's like some sci-fi [ __ ] yeah like a fight over water in a tank girl iced tea you gonna see a picture me okay so while we pulling it up yeah well I want to respect my brother Charlie Charlie's my brother for 20 years and he doe crazy yeah look at this look at his pictures we're gonna see that's me oh [ __ ] yeah 22 days 22 days in that [ __ ] their seizures that not s that's that's Stan Winston s5 peace applications are that's crazy you gotta put on the camera so now yeah that was tanker so that was you know and anything of it was and now I'm at this point one was taking jobs and I'm rolling with it and they're coming in so I'm like shoot you know I'm starting to make money now now you consider that you can senator ACTA yeah you you're killing it every roll you get yeah if you if you watching it take a shot listen so law and order don't do don't do yes they come to you yeah and they say when what they say okay little pre pre story to that my first full time work in the Dick Wolf foods the executive producers that is in New York Undercover I was that I was at my house in La Jolla hold on azeema don't even want to answer for ya buttery sweetness yeah butterfingers yo Benzino you live on the podcast 0 up we hear what Ice King what's up Benzino Sykes was had a baby I see you in New York we have 541 Lexington now I'm to W Hotel come through okay ah you know my last name right so New York gonna cover I was with fab 5 Freddy in my house we don't want New York Undercover sir while I was on three times I played a guy named Danny up and uh um Andre arell was talking to fab 5 Freddy fab 5 was like I'm at Ice T's cribs and put ice tea on the phone he's like yeah you gotta come on my show New York Undercover Andre was that I'm like I told him [ __ ] that's a ripoff of New Jack city you know New York Undercover I said you that's why I'm here to clarify drink yeah so so anyway he's like yeah we'll come on the show and I'm like I know I'm doing movies now [ __ ] and then he was like all eyes you too big now you know how to do that like I was like all right we'll give me a bad guy rolling I'll play it cuz I've been playing to polio I said give me a bad guy roll so there was just roll called Danielle I played it I get a call from dick walk they go we don't want to kill you at the end of the episode will you do more and I fought with him we renegotiated got a better room movie from a [ __ ] hotel to the four seasons I did two more episodes I shot I shot him illegal Malik Yoba girl and I just ride out so after I did that show I did a show for him called swift justice I played a bad guy I did Lauren order I played a pimp they kill me with a bowling pin then I had a show called players on TV that was my own show with Constance man Lauren Frankie was okay when those shows were over Dick Wolf he says I wish I had a stronger vehicle for you right meaning you got it but so I'm like cool so I was back in LA doing my business doing my [ __ ] trying to create iTunes I was trying to create mp3 bass that we could put rap music on and people could get it go straight to mp3 [ __ ] [ __ ] was not gonna be like what is mp3 I was like that'll never work never never work [ __ ] ain't get rid of these CDs so no no [ __ ] it's a digital [ __ ] I was like Nick he's like master Aaron this before Napster after that it was during the time Napster was doing it but my thing was I'll take your album I would digitally I was gonna create iTunes I would take you out I would put it on to a website where we would download it for money it's iTunes right oh wow guy stones I was gonna excuse but yeah I still and I was gonna not only that I was gonna do it regionally would it be a what the [ __ ] man holy something alien noises killing yes so so my thing was it had a regional map so if you could go to like if you want to Pennsylvania it woulda shot of rappers from Pennsylvania so it would break it down regionally because I didn't know hip-hop was regional so you could do it but anyway that was I was creating when I got the call to dude SVU right and I said no okay I said no because I had 15 employees I had a databases I had servers I was trying to go and then my boy we had a little problem in LA where one of my buddies has set me up to get robbed yeah well his name let's just [ __ ] on him right now okay yeah so so but basically one of my friends who I looked out time to imprison he he sent some people up to my office and it was a robbery don't took place so everybody finally figured it out and it was a little hostile moment everybody was worrying about what's going on and then did we figured out who did it and it was tension you know tension and [ __ ] you know the my daughter was in the room it was it was the ugly situation it's in my book I wrote it at my book so when it happened one of my boys from 60s month they called the Emperor he was he with me every day so he was like they they offered me to do the show he said get out of town man get out of town you know [ __ ] it is for shows is what we gonna rob you is some money here like you know like you know we wasn't making no money yet in the business it was like I got this so I came out here to do four episodes for SVU and it's been 18 years special urge to the Emperor to the negative negativity is also one of the reasons they say gonna shake to New York cause all this drama is going on cuz you know how hard was it to adapt to New York because right now you like just as much as a New York [ __ ] than me while I was playing in New York I was living here I was actually born in Newark New Jersey my mother passed when I was in the third grade my father when I was in the seventh I lived in Summit New Jersey over there with my father and then I left to go to LA when my father died and I was in LA ever since my aunt his sister yeah so I lived out there with them and stuff so this brought me back music brought me back I was coming out here to get cuz cuz to me being a rapper I had to get the cosign of New York you can't be a rapper and not having New York's cosign as far as I was concerned I'm gonna take one more pitch to really we like halfway through my life story here these guys in I know I know stun and turn that's good that's good that mean it's better for it to come from my mouth to somebody so what you moved early yeah yes Daddy that was that was when I moved to Cali with my on and you move directly to where you lived in Cali well not well now I was living when I moved out there I was living in an area called view Park which is above Crenshaw and Vernon it's like a nice area up in the hills and I used to I got bus to a white junior high school called like cube cut' yes he was palms junior high school Crenshaw High School was right down the street so when I got to high school I said I ain't catching the bus and that's when I walked into the show and uh that's what I say in Original Gangster how I was introduced to the gangs and I did a song so that's how I'm living I said you know I was born in New Jersey I said it before but I guess nobody heard me my mother died young no sisters or brothers I was our only son when I was young my pops died - what's a [ __ ] supposed to do they sent me out west to live with my aunt I guess they thought that was the best but there was no love there and growing with no moms I guess I was prepared to live in a vacuum the bedroom the kitchen in the hall the bathroom I didn't leave home much I didn't like LA I didn't have no friends to trust I got bussed to a school blacks and whites I guess the [ __ ] was cool but my high school I changed I didn't want a bus I didn't want to play the game I walked to Crenshaw high [ __ ] was fly I hooked up with a new crew some [ __ ] that I knew act like they knew what the [ __ ] to do now you may call it a gang but we call this set and it was our own thing the whole school was down and one way or another everybody [ __ ] around where the hardcore not you wore the right color yes got shot so yeah that's how I ended up out there so anyway yeah I ended up on SVU 18 years and a blessing it was a very you know the negative situation along with my buddies in sight it's just what do you think about Dave Chappelle and he made the skit about that Dave Chappelle is a genius it's it's gonna be hard to find somebody as funny as Dave Chappelle like every once in a while a comic genius comes out like I lived through Richard Pryor and Eddie Murphy but Dave Chappelle it just hits comedy from some other angle that nigga's saying I agree ain't it's just abnormal like you know I'm a fan of everybody you know I was just you know I love everybody I was this with Kevin Hart the other day but Dave Chappelle Kevin Hart if you don't bring your monkey ass on here yeah Kevin Hart's cool yeah Kevin's bishop's you having Chris Rock autumn bad oh wow Dave's comedy is is different see dave is natural it's something different though and he's a needy I mean we did the player haters ball he doesn't give a [ __ ] write that [ __ ] yeah look nasty put some more milk in your mama's bowl right [ __ ] like yeah what was the event actually I spun an event in Miami I think was the play it was a boy in Miami at Luke's Club oh that was a players ball probably I was DJing I have a picture uh-huh you're like right next to me okay told me you won't you wonder rhyme and you're like play shook ones part two oh yeah I rhymed in that spot yeah I was the one spinning yeah yeah I remember that a picture okay that's what's up have it on them or something it's a real picture I think over in there that night boy so yeah this is gonna go for more we go there I some probably think you're probably the first rap album I might have a jerk well you know what it was it was it was just like nobody was doing it nobody was connection sex no you know the guns and all that and I was like this is part of it well Luke did it but he didn't do it like he the gates away the way you did when we did the back well that was the second album I did it on rod taste darling was in the car with us like in a bathing suit and me and evil were in a Porsche and we had a palm tree and we were trunk Glenn Friedman shot that uh-huh and we were trying to say this is Callie we wanted that to say California when a time I did the power album cover I was dealing with power like the three the three levels of power one is sex that's the biggest power all right so you see her isn't it yeah uh the next power is weapons sex money and guns so you see the weapons and then the next power is deception and when you turn it over you see me and Eva were strapped so I feel deception is the ultimate power because you never know who's giving it to you you know you I think you fired me but really he called the chakra walks away so people that work in that realm of deception in Indians that's what that's the awesome losses business yeah yeah you don't know where the shot comes from and that's the scarier power you know so that's what I was dealing with on the album cover of course Darlene looked incredible at the time and they keep their Darlene but we don't know Darlene was my that's my son's mother I know I never been married before but that was my son's mother at the time and you don't mean her still got a good relationship I see some daughter yeah book out now right yeah but you're so smooth yeah but she you know at the time I was I was in a world where I thought you had to be real I thought you couldn't lie so I didn't know you could wear other people's jury it was a huh no I had to shoot in my own house ad I didn't know the debtors guns those are your guns Oh guess what I said gets him a promo shot and props so I I didn't think that was okay okay and you know I was I ran my career later I ran my career based on those principles if you know I said I don't what I sound rap about GATS ain't got hos iron cot you know guns I shot a game to me it's too [ __ ] deep if I did honestly believe I died in my sleep all right if I don't have it I'm a rap about not having it right now you know until I get it oh my god yeah let me just tell you some iced tea about the end of the day make a poem we met in jail thanks we never ever ever in jail same gonna come home Iraq right me and this fouled again I'm a foul digger to him brother oh right my brother but we came home we was a tail in jail soon we call flip some cocaine absolutely I came home and Coppola's rather than Oh what and I was rapping to write and jail but we ain't never gonna shake a rat right now so we had this whole altitude we had embarked on what and this is the reason why I named it gangsta rap or reality rapping if it wasn't for you they probably wouldn't be us absolutely that's real [ __ ] because we're not I look at the history and sometimes like I could Google some I hate googling you know cuz I like to remember from what and the first original person that ever spit reality rap gangsta rap whatever it is is you thank you mmm and we all owe you not just we didn't know how to be fake either yeah oh you could do a photo shoot and have a fake gun a photo shoot for a vibe a real gun in it 100 but I don't understand this one I don't understand how people can get on Instagram and all that and lie and talk about [ __ ] but then all their friends see it and they know it's not real nah but their friends let them do it sort of friends fake - they're going along with this little Mix's they check by the likes if the likes air are there the rappers that's a reality but you gotta have balls to do that absolutely actually me to put a picture up of me saying this is my house and I NIC is know that it what kind of person is then you got Instagram police that's catching [ __ ] what you're right I'm talking about your friends like I was held accountable for every lyric every rhyme like ice you know come on ice [ __ ] yo what you know I had to make sure I stayed within the lines because my [ __ ] would laughed me out of town maybe like come on you know and my homie said ice you don't never have to lie because you live such an incredible life you don't have to it just within it if you don't you know people ain't gonna believe most of stories I tell I need [ __ ] right here this the cosine haven't [ __ ] you know so people but I don't get it now I just look at people on the equivalent led in it I would like to ask you hip hop now what is you what is what is ice fellas on hip hop I just don't think he's held to the same same rules or same standards when I got in hip hop I am gangbanging is isn't held at the same standards as anyways when you somethin is but but but but i think when i got into rap i understood you know people that brought me in mel and everybody the cheese to me they said hip-hop requires skill that's what I did in the art of rap my movie I said it requires skill you have to be have skill to be a breaker a skill to be a rapper skill to be a DJ right once you lower the bar to where there's no skill it's no longer an art form it's not evolving anymore either yes so I came in when [ __ ] would call you whack and you had to take it like you act or you got to get better you try to get better it's now to me it's kind of like dance music it's kind of like disco it's just beats and the production is some of the dumb some of the production going to a club I can go into a club and listen to trap beats all night long and I'm rockin I mean that's the sonic the sound production is everything but the lyrical content everybody stars just call me yo Jackie look you live on a podcast where I see my job as I see no fools I see what up jack nice I was with Jack in the Bronx you know were you at hey Ali Ali Ali Noah address come through all right I bring some African vodka god damn it that's why I make [ __ ] turn off the phones when a in my house but you know what you know what you change some ice today don't accumulate more having said this the whole interview and one thing one thing one thing is that I have to say to you it's ice although I give the same love that you give to me to younger artists but you not have ever been obligated to give me any love that you always gave because I'm a fan but it's real though I'm not a [ __ ] let me let me keep your [ __ ] because ice you always had our back in the beginning like you one of them guys you wanted them guys that I know I call and I know you're gonna respond I know you're gonna be and you know I always haven't been able to to to do what I gotta do but when I've been at the lowest the medium the highest you always been in my corner cuz real [ __ ] ain't wants to show up at the party [ __ ] real [ __ ] meet you in the parking lot in the rain with the pistol I want to thank you we go to a small soldier boy hold on but before it's before I get to the soldier boy because I want to know who you got in the fight but before that clown a sneeze t-shirt before that I would like well you didn't let me finish okay pleading let me finish I'll let you I was I was I was saying the music now sonically is incredible but it's I don't feel it's lacking the lyrical content I think that they're rapping they're dropping faster wrapping stuff but I'm not taking nothing from it I'm not this son now listen to Jay cold on the other day he has record no that's the only thing I just think it although you're a star now and you're rapping take a minute and make a record and try to move somebody like try to change somebody's life with it I understand it I'm like okay you got the baddest [ __ ] you got the money you high all the time I got that but what else is there anything else there's more to life now some people there is nothing else it's just getting money and I grew up with cats like that is just get money but some people got it in them to try to help and move and if that's in you do it but you changed my life I changed my life one day somebody asked you I said well ice when you drop it some and you said I don't want to drop something cuz everybody's dropping mixtapes for free I don't want to spit my game for free and a [ __ ] he said if you notice it's only East Coast [ __ ] that do mixed a game for free west coast mixtapes they drop mixtapes they sell these my nip senior kill game kill time sit back and say honey down for all along the downfall of New York was to whatever the downfall of Mubarak was we down greater than all so there's so many P and I said that one day and nobody paying attention what up but me I there was a website called Daffy pith yeah okay right we put out a thing called the anti mixtape they were dropping 20 free mixtapes a day on that website yeah it was it was like yo this is so diluted now there's no value your labels are suing them for that was but still it's like yo man I mean likes you Everlong spread a little bit just really if this is your business then you got a hold and you gotta take its content you can't just give it away I never I never thought of three mixtapes is your son that's think it's ridiculous it's like what are you doing especially somebody like you who's already known I mean if you knew you might do a streaming mixtape yeah yeah well I don't and then how do the producers get paid when you give it away nobody does that you just put yourself in the same thing no they didn't put half the work you put in the game you put yourself in the same level as them when you jump a mixtape but that's why you gotta have producers that's lawyer you like hazardous sounds spk I'll scrap Jones incredible cut yeah you know people like that this because because I might get no money over this don't work neither yeah so you gotta have people that's willing to take that risk with you but mind you there's of this escapar my mind oh man why does your vapor smell like room boss my baby smells good it smells like old Spanish [ __ ] I'm just keeping it real your eyes I just can't thank you enough because I know you humble and you keep going back knowing you so um and I just want to thank you because you know why and I know you don't give a [ __ ] I know your real [ __ ] but you know what I feel is real [ __ ] should be saluted nowadays at the end of the day fake [ __ ] had a time and that's the reason why me and my partner right here started this podcast but you can feel it is we wanna you every lowness we've never interviewed not one new guy mm-hmm if we interview came with an old with an OG only this is the only generation in the world that when you become old they kick you out bro yeah that you can still do it jazz you can still do it uh uh salsa merengue yeah you could be 67 pop stars get more love for longer and the hip hop is the only thing so you know us my partner's that's why I got a million kuba drink chances drink chance we want to salute our legends because there's no other platform to salut our legends like right now if you say I'm gonna do the hottest podcast quote-unquote they wanna they wanna get jay-z they want to get nos they want to get all drink they want to get all these people that's not what we started after we wanted to support our legend yeah you know meet me myself like the rapper's I like one of the prerequisites was what I like to hang out would do right you know I wanted to roll with rock him I wanted to hang with Big Daddy Kane I wanna hang around component Noriega Raekwon and and cause an angry easy yeah it was a easy story that untold not as easy easy well easiest game was he always tried to tell Phoebe was 15 while out in the hotel room some stuff I mean I've seen easy you know ladies that be cleaning the thing it's like tackle the chick like like this before [ __ ] getting charges and something is just wiling out but not you know easy was a good dude I mean he was he was the street member of the group he funded that group right out the guy said that yeah it's true so how many of you other people names and I just want to see you want to continue it I've no easy I mean this time I think of it as easiest passed away so it's kind of odd did I talk about about a while okay now my axe you're coming to people who are pastor but I got wild stories you got you got story rested yeah message it well Jamie something bout Jam Master Jay Jay was Jay was another person who was like the most authentic like part of Run DMC like he was a street cat so I would always actually like somehow they would gravitate to me and we would end up talking and stuff like that but Jay was the solid dude I mean it's amazing that no one caught who killed him that's just amazing that somebody of that caliber that's like somebody from pected the won the Superbowl like Tom Brady you killed nobody knows about yeah you know that's crazy us yeah that's it away good thing you know what's crazy do you talk about not solving big alone one second they talk about not solving big murder that's our pot murder but they never talk about not salvage a mess did you and he was just as pinnacle and by jay-z let me tell you jay-z I'm not I mean Jay Master Jay and Run DMC remember you talk about that moment with you that was the moment that men made me really rap like I went to a concert they had and they had everybody put their diesel and jet jet Master Jay was on a riser and it had lasers and [ __ ] and I was just trying to rap and I was like yo this [ __ ] is rockin so much know I like know that because we had always been doing it in the basement the little gloves and [ __ ] and when I seen that I think I went home that night and wrote like 20 reps like I was like yo I run DMC let me understand this was big but it was bigger than the basement in the small clubs hip-hop work okay so I'm going a little bit all over yes Tupac a new pop when he was in digital underground yeah he was dance and um is that difference between - yeah Digital Underground - pumpkin warning I remember we were at a Soul Train Awards and was me and Dre and we were sitting at a table and pop walk but I say Dre told him dr. Dre Dre I huge these kids to say Drake you know yeah a passel stupid Price is Right and a pack walk by at that time he was in to pot yet I think maybe was trash or somebody but he looked at the table and I could see he wanted to sit at the table you know I could see it and then as he started to make his move as Tupac I'm at one time see pop was doing some strange things like all right like he hooked up with the Katzen in south central 52nd to five deuces which was rated R and y'all relax no no beyond Crips Medusa but Ali gotta go he cooked up wood raided all thomassie Somali and they created that thing thug life which was based in South Central LA no no Doug life was rated R and um and uh MCed osius they were out of LA right and then you know he volved from that and then when he got into trouble out here that's when should came in and got him out but I remember one time I was in LA and pop pulled up on me in a car with like this crazy-ass chick like some like strawberry [ __ ] in the front seat yeah yeah that's how I noticed that's exactly what I said about maja strawberry's basically broads did get off for crack okay Street thanks for like a crack okay so this broad I know it wasn't his woman I'm like what is this [ __ ] doing in the car she already did you know but he's getting high and he has goods he had weed he had gun and he wanted me to sit in the car and listen to his a record I'm like are you serious are you [ __ ] kidding me I might let you like oh geez so you know let me just say the same he was trying to impress you even if he wasn't trying to press you because now every time I hang out with you yeah I've tried that impressed but he was he scared me so I was like I was like papa man this is crazy but I'll tell you some real inside [ __ ] uh he was in my house I had a studio called the crack house and he was at my house with the outlaws a couple of the outlaws and he played me hit him up and I didn't like it and I was like I'm gonna start I didn't like him starting to beef I was like Dawg you know where I was gonna go I said you going in on dudes wife and all that I was like yo he's like yo then at that time he thought big hit shot him and then I was like yo whoa you can hear I wouldn't wait for be handling that with a record really are you know so we kind of was on bad terms the debt cuz he wanted me to ride with him and I was like I couldn't you know and so that we was we was kind of like in that zone when he got killed wasn't what he was saying I record was he saying that that was reality or was he saying I'm just a rah-rah record it's a beef record you know talking about life wife but just a beef record like if you gonna set it and you setting it yelling West Coast you shouldn't set this I knew that was gonna turn into a real you know yeah yeah well I'm not out wrapping you I'm threatening you I'm talking yeah and I'm like yo I was like yo I mean something if you really didn't go there you know I'm sitting back Holofernes I'm like who I'm supposed to be I'm older yeah like y'all this is this is no but he wanted me to go like yeah yeah yeah good [ __ ] let's do it yes man is he saying that he's mad that's what you heard the wrong but he said that he said it was he in the studio was he saying this is truth not not we didn't get there I just listen to the playback and was like dog that's oh no generally not a good idea too much yes just I'm cool with New York like no you know what it was gonna create absolute [ __ ] aside right if you think it may be shot you why you making a record it's true [ __ ] right okay so we went there you gonna handle this with a record okay but he wasn't ready for that and I wasn't really trying to send him on no man I was just trying to get his get it come on man but yeah but but anyway long story short you know I love pop pop was a good kid I remember one night shock G came and knocked on my door and he was like yo you need to talk to pop and he said you like one of the only people he'll listen to and it was like yo you know he won't he's not listening to me at that time so you know he kind of got caught in itself see when you when you're not in the LA gang singing you come to LA and they embrace you so rod ups all right yeah it's it's you're not necessarily safe you know and it wasn't where he was supposed to be like you know you you make records you should be on your way out of the game you shouldn't be making records and then going into it just you know cuz you're making flyers like what one a street [ __ ] has the power and amenity who shot him Pookie Lok who's Pookie look nobody [ __ ] knows who shot him iced tea iced tea gonna be on this flyer he'll be right here no you no longer have that ability to disappear into the hood [ __ ] can pop up on you any [ __ ] where so you gotta let that [ __ ] go you gotta let that [ __ ] go you're no longer in the underworld now you were part of the mainstream and you gotta you have to behave like so did you did you actually see like after that did you see that pop was going down a road that wasn't necessarily yeah it wasn't you know it was just not a good place to be you know but you know he was wrongly shook shook he got him out of jail everybody eternity back on trial he got caught in that mess who came and saved shoot was but nwaz bodyguard and he was originally but yeah but he run with them and being sugar always had a cool rep cool like understanding no beef cuz we did no business but you gotta understand sugars a football player and he basically had ax connections to the mob or the mo beat of the cats in his neighborhood where he's from and they were Bloods and he surround himself with gang of blood so that was power in something but then again my boys they were like we the other side so that don't matter to us and I got [ __ ] big biggest shook so it's like you [ __ ] me up with that was like you know for the rap game but let's see I'm not operating as that type of a militia oh yeah yeah but you know it's like okay and that's choking everybody was cool everybody understood everybody everybody had their limits but me and should have never shared a negative word he was very respectful in in areas and we respect people we aren't enemies so to speak but then at the same time we're from two different sides of the gang world you know I'm saying I'm from a [ __ ] side okay so let's date they like whatever can I show question uh huh what what wait this is going to let me talk about beef uh uh what was to do you well we sat questionable D had an iced tea girl well what happened was that was like that was that was equivalent to biggie but yeah but no I didn't take it like that what happened was with him was he was just saying he was the greatest rapper ever and I was coming out from the west coast and how was I gonna be able to be taken seriously if I left someone said they were the best so I had to rep my sister I was just like [ __ ] whoever you think you are Nikki you know I had a whole coast on my back so I was like let's go now whether I thought I could actually beat him rapping well that's whatever I but I had to stand my ground and I thought I might have been able to be more clever than him who knows but it was know that she got shut down Bambaataa actually shut down that rap beef cuz cuz ll wanted to be part of Zulu hmm and there was a moment wedding there they were asking me and I'm like well if it's up to me you know me and him it's kind of beef in this [ __ ] but yeah because Africa is want to put me in the game right so so so L you know but it was his record [ __ ] it wasn't it was this who's better rapper ya wasn't threatening each other's lodge and [ __ ] on that and I did this Natalie I think he said I took the record let the thing to the bathroom or whatever but you know whatever you know that's not granting some murdering a child both like to the TV by storm like yeah both the rat Jesse knows now how does then I ran into LL and Monte Carlo uh we were doing what's that busy what's up all right good to see you all right Zeno's in the filter house watching TV I saw you get shot on TV I was like man your brother doing the television I chopped it up with LL and you know it was like yo man at the end back in them days this is what we had to do we had to stand our ground yeah no disrespect and we shook and everything but I had this recently this happened maybe five years ago up to that point I hadn't crossed ll spaz nothing like that whole time we don't have you you know we live in different coasts and you know but you know but Hollywood didn't bring y'all like nice he's like this what about boudin I love Modi's know when that happened did you ever talk to module 8 we got a [ __ ] brother it wasn't that serious it was rap [ __ ] no it was never that serious it was just like a crab better than you you know yeah you do coming up right so I'll see you like you you you were that Soulja Boy full rap you like yo that ain't real hip-hop or whatever Bob love like I agree with you because I come up on the seat Capone ignore me I got no real hip-hop I'm taking it as like he's a young boy coming up trying to use a platform just to make it out the hood right so it's like I thought like follows him like I'll be hurt to hear that first it's like I look up to you there's a black board you know me I'm just trying to make it out feed my fish okay it was a back story to that this is what happened this is why we were talking about phones off and cameras off we I was making a mixtape for one of my homies in the hood right let's dude just a regular nigut I'm on his rapping rapping for him free right Wow so when I get into the booth to make it start like like say it they just don't want to hear you they want to see those boys everyone so they pumping me up they using this [ __ ] to get me high yeah like I didn't want to hear you nicotine one hurt they hit my G bone I went on a rant yeah the biggest taped it yeah and put it out and put it on in the front of their mixtape so I'm the [ __ ] up [ __ ] so that was it that was one of my ice-t old man rants yeah was he was never supposed to hurt him now I'm in Arizona minding my business my son goes soldier boys on the internet talking [ __ ] about you so I'm like what so parents yeah they plan to tape back he listened it so now I'm like well I came back down I did say this [ __ ] yeah so now I'm out there so let me verify let me break down what I said not it's totally [ __ ] fresh straight up [ __ ] this is how I feel bla bla bla bla bla and what and then rest is history but at the time I felt the bar was starting to drop yeah and I just think the dead once again it needs to be a degree of difficulty in hip-hop that always has been there and that's what makes it something special there's something about a star a star is something you can't reach that's what Michael Jordan is a star you can't reach him and that's why we look up to him but when you're doing something that everybody can do you not really started really doing what anybody can do show me something I can't do and you get the praise so you know God bless so you know this is what I do know [ __ ] will end up in they own [ __ ] if that's what they deserve so now you see in this this guy and look at where his life is you see them saying so you know you don't really gotta do nothing to nobody they gonna end up where they supposed to be because of their actions so you know gobby let's go now we want you know it's you know that's like that's like if you ever heard about the laws of Murphy what can't happen yeah real happiness and that's work is law let me just tell you something you want to join the gang follow the Bandidos here your guys II know a lot of the history in this room right now say you know like our soap and we was on Tommy Boy and when Tom which is now owned by Warner book right right it's crazy cuz all happen at that time but when you came out with the cop killer song we know we just got it down on Tommy Boy do from Boston you know got a little single do we put a song I'll call one two chamber yeah so when the chamber we talked about two kids who I got killed in Boston and the police got over with it whatever you know I'm saying shot shot dude under a car shot over doing the back of the head and they got over with so um we end up getting dropped from Tommy Boy because the Boston police patrols associated has sued us since I forgot there was the interview and it was something that I found of you did interview if I did the interview and it was just something because since he had the cop killed song when we got with the cop that was trying to compare things and it was saying I said well as far as I know you know even though of course I see legend in the game but the song form I understood was kind of rock it was rap rock or saying I said it was kind of different I said you know I said we didn't I say odds was just a rap song was just pretty much talking about you know I mean it was almost like the same thing but we went out and did a show out there are urban amputation so it's just the five of us you know we'd had no security night in this [ __ ] so it was four of us plus we had snow jamaican [ __ ] that did it on the hook four hundred songs or whatever so when when when it when i sack he came at me this was the time i guess where they was trying to arm squash the truce yeah like oh honey [ __ ] been online so like warning it was like yo I feel when I said I said oh man [ __ ] sometime think why I'm like [ __ ] right I mean let me present look now my side of the story when the [ __ ] happened the word got out that RSO said that we I was the reason they got drama that's that's how he came at me right so I was like you are so says something about you that way so like like I was telling them in my I keep everyone abreast of who we might have be Philip this said yeah so I think our Rizzo it popped up on our radar like kids are so [ __ ] says some fly so then I'm at this place and they go there they go right see what we felt it though cuz I don't know I said look I said look I said man so because stay together said gay nobody [ __ ] what happens we don't get mopped up together or somebody won we have a problem like [ __ ] the low Jamaican think it was like oh I didn't even like he was like we wasn't even mo Dana's identified him so I'm good your man came was like ice-t wanna holler so I said I'm going suggested I'm gonna go over there we'll go Tom - no we went over that top and I'd never forget this you said - she was like look man I ain't got no beef enough for me says man you see these things that's the great Street and then I'm looking now I'm like yeah it's like man [ __ ] that he's like let's go kill some cops to go look I'm not my beef with you and also I never I never I never really took second hand information right you know somebody say you said some who did I'm gonna get you and i'ma see if you'll say it again you know cuz that cause [ __ ] get killed over second information it wasn't real so so if I can't walk up to bed and say yo what's really good I was really more or less like I ain't mad man that [ __ ] went bad when I my [ __ ] got bad [ __ ] went bad for a lot of people you know and I everybody said was my fault I'm like yo this [ __ ] is real right we're real like so if you guys had heated at the cops and let's go get down cuz I was always like that with [ __ ] I'm like you so quick you kill another homie over an orange soda but when they come you run like where is your gangster ass no real to this days yeah they had the American flag we're all red and blue numbers at the stage time yeah like that was history a lot of people didn't even like that wasn't documented but you had the Bloods and Cripps on stage they that American for big flag who's big as about as many [ __ ] more than here so it was I mean it was a thousand ill moment is a moment where la we should I commend you for that yeah that was big to do it that hadn't been done before as far as I knew you know I wanted to try to get the Le gangs to stop killing each other still this is like all in the same gang now this is during the 92 dis is a truce when we which was truce is what's going on that's prior to that and why were you on that record but you was the reason Boston started with when colors came out yeah that's what everything said about the colors everything started here is what everything started going like an intake of Boston where colors came out then that's when really I noticed Boston started ganging up you know I'm saying it was right after colors colors like yeah I mean it was beef in a movie theaters it was going crazy when that [ __ ] came out you know the thing of it is with me man it's like I'm responsible for a lot of negative [ __ ] that happen but really I've always been the person is really tried to get peace you know at the end of the day my messages can be misconstrued you know because I can go into that mode but that's not really my get down my get down is not that and when people meet me they go wow you're so mild-mannered you're so cool you know where'd all this gangster [ __ ] come from I say well people like me the ones you gotta look out for it you didn't get walking without talking all tough and [ __ ] like that he doesn't have new power that's why I understand why Donald Trump now because when you have that ability then you don't need to raise your voice in a mute I'm on Twitter but it said you can just become calm because it's nothing you know so yeah you know like now [ __ ] see me now and they I'm not the normal rapper they like why are you ain't boo boo yeah I'm like well I don't need to be like that they're our office that's all that extra [ __ ] I did that's just over at silver was a dread of life as does the job we put the same [ __ ] can happen [ __ ] can bring the gravity appreciation I've seen my brother Ching bang his hair I've got the bistros yes or no Diego y'all Benzino it's a great podcast going on right yo ice-t Ice I can't thank you enough I can never thank you enough for anything you ever did cuz you know what I could never repay you for anything you ever did I can never repay you for anything you ever did to me there's a break and you know how I repay you with that I repay you with that is because I always use something for somebody you could never repay that's the game that's real talk reinforce real talk pay it forward because you're so big I can't even it's nothing I can I will offer you I can never offer you money I can never offer you anything all I can offer you is real friends but it's always the treatment players me there's always a treat when you get around cats at your own caliber and you can chop it up and ain't nobody bragging and talking about that and unnecessary [ __ ] because at some point everybody has everything right well there's nothing to brag about now because we all have everyone so now what is what are you talking about what have you done what do you what are you giving back you know that's not really wealthy people brag you know that they talk about how much money they gave away that what they have all got the obscene [ __ ] so what are you giving are giving away 10 million this year I gave back 50 minute that's why that's how to bothers Brad he's still on the [ __ ] side trying to get something you know what I'm saying we ain't there yet but my thing is if ice-t is really just a person is trying to show people there's no limits everywhere you want to go you can do it we all come from the hood and you set your own limits you know if you listen to the crowd you're gonna end up with them you did you can do whatever the [ __ ] you want and uh you know you just got to drop a lot of that negative [ __ ] you just got to drop a lot of that boisterous arrogant [ __ ] that get you shot right and you get you you just learn to mellow out and all of us in this room should live as long as we want we shouldn't go to prison all that we pass and once you get out of your 20s that's the kill zone right there if you make it out of that there's no now you're all G so I'm this handsome rock playing xbox nori that's all I do I play everything is the problem when you're right I say this in there - right one-year-old daughter here's the problem is they never expected us to make 21 yes oh now after we make past 25 now they call us the og but back in the days they still call your og after 35 40 but now they call you oh gee here's one is follow you is that is that messing up our community I'm not a chose you understand this man I'm gonna hold him on another channel right I'm gonna channel it it's the college [ __ ] I [ __ ] with I like and that's only people I care about you see me that yeah you aren't everyone else's development and they can come up and they can learn if they don't want to take advice they can learn the way we learnt you did what I'm saying might have to make a detour through the penetrator but they go figure it out then I say I [ __ ] with [ __ ] I [ __ ] with and that's only let me just say something I can never thank you for anything you ever did for me that's really you continue to do it for me you've never fronted on me I've really really appreciate everything I really love you as a person I love you as an artist you already know that I know I can guarantee you when we go downstairs I could party no more lyrics then you know to your own [ __ ] stop it because the way he called his verses though he iced tea big up to your beautiful wife yeah everything is good we're never actually no cocoa questions and left right you know why this is hip-hop right chanel is in the building I got a one-year-old daughter look ya'll I'm happy I'm just very fortunate to still be here to still be in the game I never wanted to be at the top of the game just bubble you know my age my perspective is gonna be a little bit of course the people I grew up with is a little bit different so that's kind of like you know you say you cut from a different cloth I'm from a different cloth so III hold though that code that all that I've always held it and I was telling them earlier only thing you leave on earth is your your reputation right and respect that I've earned so my kids forget the money like this right the only thing that you have in life is your name and your respecting your honor and what my kids regardless how much money I can live in it doesn't matter if my son says I'm little ice and they say yes father was a sucker and that's his life he's gonna live under that so if I'm an honorable cat people are gonna look out for him they're gonna go that's your dad you know the same way we look out for bigs kids they say when you look out and that's what I'm all about it's about maintaining my my respecting my honor for my kids that's all it ain't about the money it's not that that [ __ ] I you know all that [ __ ] comes and goes it's all about that as long as you a player has his health and his freedom anything can happen right if you have your health and your freedom that's all matter so I'm at home playing xbox eating tacos I take my black ass the lawn order I come back home I'm on my [ __ ] business I'm trying to stay the [ __ ] out the way I don't want to be on your blog's and none of that old [ __ ] I'll pop out when I'm got something to sell when I'm pushing something other than that I'm cool I'm chilling you know we all got everything we need remember this we all got everything we need small it's all about now what you want and you I can't tell you what you want we got what we need what do you need a pair of pants and shoes a car and rent and food that's all you need everything else is what you want so go write that's all you need but we got that so your life is based around what you want and you don't know what I want mom I might just want to chill and watch TV fun from the bottom of our heart and I must speak for my partner as well both porn is and for all of us we want to thank you because you know what and then and we also understand that you had started your podcast yes you had did your podcast you need to stop that and come with your inch after that what I'm [ __ ] with you I mean I did fifty nine after so I am I'm this way we do i'm sheldon night and puff daddy together i love it if they had never had me if should my improv daddy got together this is would drink chance that word it thank you so much cuz you know why ice security but they really is it no other platform a hip-hop now when we return we will we give real talk but not only that we we praise our legend right because every time in our game I do get ten years you're finished yeah and and every other music or genre of anything I'd leave you ten years you're a legend come on man ten years in hip-hop they say you owe your [ __ ] yeah we don't want to do that over here that's another place you know my I mean if I met George Clinton I know George Clinton we gotta break it stop this [ __ ] George twins absolutely got it you know and that's how I mean you know I'm not a district at many fearful a very good just so you know that's rapid you all our doors clear and hip-hop yeah make some noise you you know your kids there's this buck is this my children they might look like but they all muscle that's dope that's all much but what's up all the joys Clinton of our hip-hop and we gonna continue to praise you keep you alive come and make sure we like Thank You Norah goddamn icy mix and our drinks like my own nephew am what is

Channel: Drink Champs

Views: 268,550

Keywords: drink champs, ice t, dj efn, nore, noreaga

Id: wMKxc7hP-7w

Length: 157min 49sec (9469 seconds)

Published: Thu Jun 11 2020