DRAMA: FROM ROB & BIG TO YOUNG & RECKLESS - IMPAULSIVE EP. 38

robbing big especially and Fantasy Factory - but Rob & big was such a phenomenon like when MTV was at the biggest and it was this different thing for MTV and like it's so weird to now look back at it and be like man I was a part of something crate what you got there Mike this is the occupancy agreement that means me and Andre we just asked to sign I've been here for four months I had to sign mine I think about six months ago oh no it's a roommate agreement my lawyers made me do it it's not my decision tractable this this number this number two is what I really like do you have not granted me a room at this house you've granted me a revocable non-exclusive license to use on a month by month basis a portion of the property it sounds so much more legit than a room not your roommate I'm your irrevocable licensee incredible hey shout out the duncan my lawyer Bob Duncan why you structure it like that I feel bad you could have just said room but it doesn't specify which portion of the property like technically you could live anywhere anywhere I want if you live in my bathroom I mean that does give us the right to kick you out and put you outside - Joe by the way in three days time oh oh honor may terminate this agreement by giving occupant three days moved across the country to the ship what do I gotta do go back to Stanford Connecticut three days mom I'm home figured out I have a renter in my [ __ ] condo in Connecticut what am I gonna do welcome back to a positive the number one podcast in the world that's a fact by the way so if you're not subscribed and good hit that subscribe button we do an audio-only Q&A with the guests after the visual is done for your listening pleasure yeah I feel bad about this just honestly though sign the [ __ ] up it's not great always gonna be a good one uh we love you guys as always we appreciate your feedback so anytime you want to comment or say something below we do listen well feeling like I feel like we've been on a grind lately yeah and we're gonna continue that today so we got a dope-ass guest as [ __ ] always I want to introduce him guys you have seen him before on TV he is the culmination of forward-thinking and awesome it it's the founder of young young and reckless ladies and gentlemen Chris PAP AKA drama a little intro man did you write that intro yeah i did i did bro the culmination of forward thinking and awesome [ __ ] I was very flattered LSD comes to my mind man feeling real good and know you you look good Thank You Man thank you yeah first time meeting you in person you got a glow to you I can feel it thank you beard isn't on my health oh really yeah I was super unhealthy for a long time smoking cigarettes just oh yeah stop and working out trying to get my life together amazing you just said you just said a key word that I liked I don't know that we're Ohio brother Ohio what part of Ohio you from Cleveland I'm from Akron that's close very close neighbors damn I thought you guys were from like Columbus or some no no no we're like probably Groot what high school did you go to Coventry I went to Westlake you know I've heard of Coventry yeah but yeah dude Ohio boy all right here we are wait it's smoke with smoking cigarettes like an Ohio things yeah I mean it's probably stereotyping if I shouldn't do that but yeah like I was just like a skaters chain smoking cigarettes and you know when you stop that's just hard to quit so I hear a few years three years ago and then you what a hell a unhealthy to you know eating is like the last and final straw right like I'm decent so I'm like medium right now but I've been working out and you know just trying to be like a good function I'm 32 now so like you can't be Wow 30 logo you know you look young though thank you me I get that a lot too thank you yeah 34 bro I'm like young signing up for Medicare and [ __ ] bro it's a wrap what is it feels right it's great it's great Medicare I'm glad I'm unsure you turned your hat backwards you probably shave another like five years yeah nice try though yeah you ever consider it going vegan Spencer's vegan me yeah I don't know if I could do it it's so serious are you the only be all right uh no he's vegan as well yeah I don't know man I'm baby stepping like I don't do like fast food and that stuff anymore but that's like a big deal for me you know what I mean so vegan is like but I've watched that documentary which one what the hell what the hell yeah and like I kind of got on the bandwagon for a week you know of like this we gotta stand up for this and then like tell apart it's soft do you see its its ass and how long do you been doing it three and a half years yeah yeah my biggest concern because it is while it is tough to do my biggest concern was the inconvenience that it made my life and also my friends lives like bro when we're traveling oh yeah how do you do that you like pack little bags honestly a lot of it's like if you're traveling for a long time you sometimes you just have to fast and not eat yeah or yeah you just got to find a vegan restaurant or somebody that just can whip something up see my problem you find it though my problem is I'm skinny right so it's so hard for me to put on so as I'm working out I'm like chugging protein shakes I'm trying to put on weight so I can't fast you have little snacks and what about like mass gainer I did mass gainer and ice that's what I just skinny Oprah I do I do two of them a day that are like 700 calories your metabolism must just be like rocket speed man it's and nobody obviously like sympathizes with me right because I do think I do Thank You Man I'm at all I'm a tall skinny guy too and I did his vegan diet for one month they're not skinny broke I'm sorry not yet I don't think a single person would describe you as skinny but I mean like a Slenderman kind of [ __ ] yeah baby like a husky man so I did this I did vegan for one month dude and I lost for forty five fifty pounds I think yeah it was horrible as I was eating we just all we were eaten was like when was this last month you lost 45 to 50 you said you lost like four to five pounds yeah can I just add two to the fans out there I didn't bring this conversation up this time so I don't mean he's mad that's true he's mad Chris cuz they call him soy boy I am NOT the van does he bring it up a lot I hope you were vegan that wouldn't what they want to do I mean like I'll bring it up just because like I'm passionate about it but at the end of it I know one of the vegans that like judges like you know the way he does he doesn't judge but like I speak my truth even when I'm eating meat and he's not judging like to me he's judging you know what I'm saying yeah it just always feels like I'm doing something [ __ ] up like when I'm cutting into it no that's that's your own consciousness I think so I've been cutting a steak one day and I just you know took a glance over the shoulder you were 20 feet down the hall peeking out of court I mean it happens you have judgy eyes so listen man um obviously growing up I watched Robin big yeah and as everyone huge [ __ ] fan thank a huge fan yeah I got to know where did the name jarama come from man it's a terrible story where it came from is when I so I grew up in Ohio my cousin Rob who was the genius behind Robin big I he he moved to LA when I was like I don't know three years old right I didn't really know him growing up what's the age difference there 13 years so he moved out when he was 16 oh damn okay and he grew up in Dayton you know where Dave yes right so far away so I didn't really know him growing up but we knew I knew I had this cool skateboarder cousin that lived in California and so when it came time for me to graduate high school all I wanted to do was move to California right so I wrote him this email like look man I'll do anything I can film you skating I can clean your house I can literally do anything you want and literally all he wrote back was cause and drop my email address was causing drama so all he wrote back was causing drama what the hell is this and I was like no no my only chance oh so when I ended up moving out he printed out it was right when myspace started he printed out all of my most embarrassing myspace photos and told everyone that my name was drama and that I was a rapper from Ohio which wasn't true and laid them all out on the table and said everyone you only talked to him as drama whatever so everyone just said dramas here man so nobody ever called me that before but now everyone does now my own mom calls me drama no it just took oh because of your first email address no was it dude there was no like I must really like quiet like you know I mean I'm not a dramatic dude at all you're quite the opposite yeah I feel like on the show you were the one always being dragged into these like [ __ ] situations yeah with those reactions real yeah so you know what they would do to me the most so towards the end I guess it's been long enough now I'm not breaking anyone's heart towards the end we kind of had it down yeah we were doing kind of playing our roles in the beginning what they would do is they would plan all the episodes and everyone would know about it but me and they purposely wouldn't tell me because they wanted real reactions so I would literally go over to his house every day to like do laundry not knowing what was gonna happen and when it did happen at you know obviously you get the real yeah action but literally after like three years I was like I can't take this anymore I know I can act just tell me what's going on Wow but they would tell me the big stuff like there was a real famous episode where they shaved my head like an old man for my 21st and that one obviously they're like hey we want to do this would you be down to do it and I was like that's so funny like yeah 21st birthday yeah it was that long ago yeah that's 11 years ago freakin wild holy [ __ ] yeah dude honestly the reason I'm in this house is because of that show really hell yeah house just watching that woke something up in me where it's like that's possible like just being with your homies in a mansion in LA like that growing up in Michigan that's like that's not in your reality yeah you guys remind me of like the modern-day version of that right even down to the love sex right I mentioned it you didn't but you all the love sector we used to have that at the house right yeah and I could just reminds me like making use of the garage like that's how it felt well the the jokes still go on when I moved in here four months ago everybody knew about this little joke that was about to happen when I went to move my bags into my bedroom yeah my or my a revocable whatever it's called these [ __ ] contract I walked in I put my bags down and they had put a ten-foot alligator and my [ __ ] bad dude and I gonna live Alice yeah yeah okay and I did not know it was real or fake and then it's I started doing that thing where it like rolls a little bit and you started I think kind of growling at me you got to keep your head on a swivel in this house for sure that's a big fact yeah you haven't always seen the whole house man it's like people are like yo this is like the modern-day fantasy yeah I'm kind of scared now but I'd love to yeah [ __ ] I should I should have plans do you have like a crazy sixth sense now because of everything you've been through like do you feel if something's about your danger no I don't think I do it wasn't this is the thing because a lot of our executive producers were the guys from jackass right oh Jesus that's terrifying yeah and those guys were like scary was it like Tremaine is Jeff Tremaine yeah and so but you know it was never like anytime it was too scary or embarrassing they would tell me it's only when it was like yo dramas gonna come in here and we're gonna try to like put hooks in his belt loops and hang him to the back wall you know what I mean like that would just happen they would just grab me and I'd be like you know it was never too tragic when you were hanging from the wall from little hooks yeah did anyone in that house ever think that you were gonna be a bonafide business mogul like be honest because when I watch that show dude like that's you what you're the guy hanging from hooks now now gonna start a business your drama oh my god but honestly but honestly like that was not what I thought yeah like I didn't know it was gonna happen right but like you literally have now gone and and started a clothing company right and now are talking to other moguls and other business people on a podcast so how did all that start yeah I don't to answer your first question like I don't you know I talked with Rob about it now because obviously we're super close you know he's like my brother and and I do think he's a little surprised you know cuz I was just such like the awkward kid from Ohio they didn't know which way was up you know what I mean but at the same time I think that I always outside of the show like persona I was always really focused and like paying attention more than anything like I was list I was trying to learn I wanted all that I wanted out of life was to have a decently successful life in Los Angeles that was my dream come true so I was ready to work I was paying attention I was doing all that so yes and no on the like surprise level I wasn't as dumb as I looked on TV you know what I mean and then as far as how it happened I mean the short version of it is I just I had a lot of great people around me I asked a lot of questions I explored constantly different professions and different ideas and you know for me I always had that thing in the back of my head that if I don't figure it out I'm going I have to move back to Ohio and well at least we make this joke all every day still that's more what I'm traumatized from I still have a bad day at the office and be like oh my god yeah I have to go back move views are down I'm gonna come back to Ohio you look at it as like an acceptable thing cuz it goes okay cuz when he says it it's not always like such a bad thing like I think like I mean I love Ohio in the tree if I needed to I oh but like I'm just saying and for some people Ohio is heaven and-and-and god bless them for me I've seen LA I've just seen like I'm so addicted to like the opportunity here and you know there's people like you there's not people like you guys in Ohio right there's people everyone's so hungry everyone's trying to figure something out like it's summer all year round yeah but you know I'm saying I don't know it would be really really rough so that's kind of always the like battery in my back is I don't have a safety net right I don't have I couldn't even though contrary to popular belief I don't I don't think I could call Rob and be like hey man we just kind of cover my bills you know he's like go back to Ohio I don't think you need to now though well no now we're good but that was like that was my fuel right so so my thing yeah I just I I just talked to everyone I explored everything I tried a bunch of stuff a lot of my stuff failed you know we tried a bunch of businesses and a bunch of stuff young and reckless was the perfect perfectly in alignment with our fans perfectly something I was passionate about it's highly relevant like the messaging was always right at the right place at the right time yeah and has been able to you know my biggest thing was I didn't my worst fear was that it would be my merch right cuz I didn't look at myself as like a celebrity or somebody that could really scale my I don't think I'm an entertainer right I just I wanted to be a business owner so what I did was I went out and tried to do deals and you know I had stuff all over the vine stars when they were first going I was super hard on that I have a story about that I'll let you continue so I went super hard on that so that it wouldn't be limited to my thing and now the brand is ten years old 2018 was our biggest year we've ever had after a slight dip with retail running into so much trouble but it's been able to last and survive I think because the idea just hit you know how did you come up with young and reckless you know it was as when I how are you 23 okay so I don't know if you this might be before you but when I was in high school in Ohio one of the big brands was famous stars and straps yeah Travis markers brand is that with the snoring and I would see kids walking around my school with their shirt would say famous or their MySpace page would say don't hate me because I'm famous and have like the famous Evan and I'm like man even though these kids suck this is what I want when it came time for me to make a brand I'm like I want something that means something I don't just want to call it like you know whatever clothing and try to make people believe it's amazing I wanted people to really feel like inspired and empowered when they put on the shirt and so as young and reckless is what I came up with the first name that I ever had was vanity thank God thank you God god that's better idea ended up in a nightclub at the harder like a Vegas so yeah just professed and young and reckless was the was the one that say that's awesome yep just hearing you talk I'm seeing a lot of similarities with with maverick in that this brand that I built is because I had the same thought it's like uh I didn't want to make Logan Palmer was my biggest fear like I don't really give a [ __ ] about people people wearing a shirt with my face on it yeah the lines have kind of blurred because I refer to as maverick merch because I don't so kudos to you brokers this it is not [ __ ] hard to build a brand might not use you man yeah Wow Friday Friday he's good but let me tell you one more thing that is just a thought of mine is I think that when I started young and reckless merch wasn't cool right what was cool was like these big brands that maybe you kind of knew the owner but you didn't maybe like Tommy Hilfiger you knew you were glad he was there because you trusted this old guy knows what he's doing but it wasn't like you didn't follow him on social media you what you guys did is when you came in you really made merch the thing and then all these big companies started being like how do we connect with our consumer like these people selling merch are right now we have no connection now we're too big and too mysterious and too weird so I don't think I think you came in at a different time and you did the right thing for your time you know what I mean yeah oh for sure um but I mean beyond just creating a cool like wearable brand something that empowers your consumers when they when they put it on you've been able to stay relevant for more than you know three to five years so far so good yeah and part of the reason is because I think you've innovated marketing yeah like you said when you reach out to the vine stars yeah hey that was one of those people yeah um and it's funny cuz men young and reckless reached out to me they're like yo we'll hook you up with free gear and I'm a free clothes amazing yeah they're living in Ohio by the way so I didn't have to pay for clothes I was like amazing put on a t-shirt now I'm like a walking advertisement for the company and then you guys invited me out here I went to the little showroom yeah yeah yeah they hooked it up I was like man this company's grew but not bro these influencers are getting smarter Rob yeah do it then we'll do it just if you give them clothes like few of them will wear it yeah so how have you went from that to the type of marketing that you're doing now cuz you just you said 2018 has been your biggest year you're still doing something right yeah I think the biggest thing is like you used to just be so the old streetwear model used to be just gift just send boxes and back in the day was like hopefully 50 cent wears it on TRL right that'll make our brand and everyone's just kind of hoping for luck and then in like the early influencer days the same thing was kind of happening just blanket stuff build relationships make them like you like you have to like us put on our shirt wear our stuff and eventually enough of it will get out now I think number one you gotta pay at a certain point right the free game is kind of over influencers are a legitimate business it's a legitimate marketing lane it's not some joke anymore and so you have to be willing to pay second to that I think that you can't just pay and blanket everyone anymore you have to be incorporating brand you have to find influencers that really match your brand and what it stands for and do people even look to them for how to dress like you can you can have someone wear your shirt all day long but if no kid is waking up in the morning and saying I want to look like so-and-so its importantly doesn't mean worth anything so it's finding the right people it's finding out how to build a brand through influencers not just get your logo out there and be willing to pay a little bit it's funny you say that because there's maybe one brand that still doesn't have to pay and so I've we've we've had such success with our influencer program and and using just product obviously it's not t-shirts it's sixteen seventeen hundred dollars sacks and Saxons couches but what if what else have you done to to market the brand as of recently are you seeing successes fronting from a media buying standpoint or you guys are I'm sure buying a ton of media yeah and also to your point real quick for anyone out there starting a business I'm talking about specifically apparel which is like the most competitive come and go trend driven business there is if you are smart enough to create a business where of course everyone would love a free massive bean bag in their house right you can get around that stuff yeah and I think that's something interesting to think about when you're starting a business for the first time is like is this gonna be easy or difficult on me you know what I mean as far as what we're doing we see a lot of success with influencers still like I said still like brand partnerships with bigger celebrities and stuff like that we did a project with 21 savage not too long ago and that did really really well you guys sell clothes in London not in a big he's back home all right I just okay he's back yeah he's good yeah stumble yep they bail is that no that's not what's called bond I think he's just bond bond bond you were you were bringing up how the apparel industry is so competitive what are your thoughts on the Gucci controversy if you haven't whoo I think it's really really stupid on Gucci's part man and I think that for the longest time big brands like that didn't have to worry about little mistakes because all you had to do was convince the tabloids not or the massive magazines not to run articles about your company being racist now social media can take it and run with it and you can be evil before you wake up in the morning and so I think that like these brands have to be ultra ultra careful of everything they do and I don't understand how something like that gets through I'm the first guy to be like oh it's probably just a mistake like they didn't mean that but that's like we thought the same thing that was that one was a there is no mistake no I've tried to find a way to be like oh no that was bad it's bad and you just can't you just can't be an idiot anymore you know I mean because Logan can post about it and your whole brand is hated overnight because you don't you can't control media anymore you know what I mean and how do you think they can rethink they'll recover what do you think is who's I don't know man it's tough I think that you know Gucci has been around for so long and there's such a part of like a bigger conglomerate of brands like I would be surprised if I'm not saying what's right or wrong but I would be surprised if they went out of business I just think they have a lot of work to do you think they took a real hit sorry gonna ask the same question what's what's happened in the stocks it's since it happened because here's here's my thought on it you'll see the start to take a hit in the rap community in the urban community but at the end of the day gucci has quite a base of rich white women and men in other countries that are buying their product the majority of their buyers are not little pumping and whoever yeah and so I mean how much is it really affected their their stocking and if so like how short-term is that effect yeah so their stock I'm not I'm not clear on what it's doing but one thing that I will say that you can't discount is rap is the biggest genre of music in the world right now so those are rockstars now and the same way that Louis Vuitton just had Virgil to sign their whole men's line street wear and urban is king so if Louie Vuitton is saying hey we need Virgil obviously it's kind of starting now at urban and trickling down all the weird rich old whatever people are trying to dress like Street where people to is what must be happening so my point is I think it's easy to be like oh but that's just the urban community I think the urban community runs stuff and Gucci might not realize how powerful that urban community is and they could they could have made a bigger mistake than they thought they did yeah that's that's true did you see what Virgil did after Louie he worked with IKEA yes so IKEA been God knows how much money on him to design rugs laughs white rugs that say what does Italy do not stand or stand here because you're absolutely right dude I mean I mean the the rap culture controls everything fashion fashion you know a lot of things yeah street wear and like New York Fashion Week or Paris Fashion Week looks like what magic trade shows street we're used to look like right like it's Fairfax has sort of evolved into this blend of luxury and street wear and that's running fashion and so I think Gucci made the worst mistake at the worst time they're gonna pay for it big time you know yeah and another question I have to on that it's like like you said how like you saw it happen with them you saw it happen with H&M last year remember with the situation yeah and I and I think about it like with us and a brand like you and I don't know what your your annual rev look like but I mean we have layers and layers of review process on every piece of content media that goes out and you look at a brand like Gucci that's publicly traded globally you know in Glo we'll retail where were the where were the people that were like yeah this happened yeah I did you know I'm bull I do not know and I feel like they're probably asking themselves the same question right now right somebody's somebody's fired obviously I would hope so yeah this might get cut but I want to I want to suggest it and maybe answer the question sure um I would be interested to see what Gucci's review team looks like diversity wise mm-hmm do they have an african-american on that team I would I would assume yes sometimes maybe I'm incorrect but sometimes in those situations you end up with a team that potentially has for example with this Gucci thing has an african-american on the team but they are a junior associate that's a that's scared to step up to a brand director or a VP or and when they do step up it's like okay back here exactly so that definitely one of those two scenarios definitely happened either someone saw it and was afraid to step up or or they got told to be quiet but if I'm not mistaken I don't want to have fake news here but dapper dan right who's like really well-known in the hip-hop community I believe has a creative job at Gucci who's a black guy yeah and so I don't know whether he didn't stop it I'm not sure what happened how sue me didn't didn't see it cuz they think about like the amount of stuff that is happening in a brand that size I would you know it'd be hard to pin it on one person I could be wrong yeah I mean they just gotta be careful man and the moral of the story is you can't do any dumb stuff and that's getting harder and harder yeah that's getting so hard from up from both from a sensitivity standpoint we've dealt with but also from a like ultra transparency standpoint every brand is is people demand transparency nowadays and if you don't give it to them they're gonna get it through their own means anyways through a mistake that you make or through your financials or something everything is wide open and shareable nowadays and it's so it's like that's scary it is there's almost no way to be a hundred percent there's just there's almost no way because you're always going to somehow offend somebody and this is not discounting what happened at Gucci cuz I was horrible but it's just really right now yeah and also I think one of the things that's happening with this new trend is like we're not necessarily weighing the offense right we're just it's like you're canceled you know if it's small or if it's massive like you're just canceled like we're not there's no due process there's no like jugs or jewelry it's just like small thing massive thing cancelled don't care you know and it's it's interesting we talk about that all the time and I'm not sure man now that everyone has a voice on social media and Gucci sales are dictated by the people using social media as much as I would like to think the canceled culture will get a right to due process function man I'm just not sure it'll ever be that like at what point will people start to [Music] really absorb a situation and come through a conclusion a reasonable conclusion yeah rather than just hopping on a train because everyone else is doing it like it's tough made it this is the only time in my life that I've ever and I'm the oldest obviously that I've ever been meaning like the wisest right and it's the only time I've ever felt like I can't tell you I have no idea where this is going yeah it's it's a little insane and just the way that the news works and the way obviously what's going on in politics and everything it's just constant like explosions of crazy hysteria every day and I I don't know I don't know whether eventually it kind of balances out or is there some negative reaction of all this stuff where I don't know he's someone as someone who's so who's been involved in pop culture for so long do you see the need for some like you look back at generations before us and there's some movement that takes place do you see a need for that within our generation well there's a million movements going on right yeah it's like do you want a movement to say stop the movement it's like kind of you know like it's interesting and I think like with Africa on a boat of non moving movement be called yes and still dances we need a standard all just we all just dumb chill out I don't know I I don't know man I think that to every everything that happens the pendulum always swings the other way yeah and there is definitely undeniably I'm not saying what's right and what's wrong but there is a culture right now of outrage and of tearing people down and instantly canceling people with no process like I said and and I don't know what the other side of that is my soui it's gonna swing somewhere it's not gonna it's not just gonna be this forever it's gonna evolve I just I don't know where and and what should I as far as what should happen or like the standstill I I don't know I I'm not in the position to say that but but I just wish we would get back to like delete the law and the legal process is set up a certain way for a reason right there's a there's a jury and there's a trial and there's a judge and there's penalties and it's not just it's like as if everyone was just sentenced to the death penalty you know what I mean like no matter what you cross the jaywalk death penalty murder a person death penalty speeding ticket death penalty it's like there's not like there's no process I don't know but it'll go somewhere it always works itself out in a positive way usually I think what needs it what probably needs happen in the first thing that people need to start thinking about is a return of what we used to call honest mistakes mm-hmm and I think nowadays everyone online or or behind a keyboard or whatever feels that there is some level of malice behind every mistake that's made and so and so they say okay Gucci did this Gucci is racist H&M did this H&M is race like it's like you said it's just like okay we got a mistake here drop the ax on ya and unfortunately that's not how [ __ ] works yeah like people make honest mistakes things get overlooked people come into work hungover and they don't do what they are supposed to do that day in the review somebody's wife cheated on him and he's having a bad day he makes a mistake writing something and then and and so I think what's happened is you've got this mob of angry shark malice people that are just trying to put a malignant intent behind every single little mistake that [ __ ] happens and that's all I was gonna say is we forgot intention we forgot intention it's like literally if you say something crazy to someone and they're like yo man what was that like I didn't I didn't mean to do that I'm sorry you clear that up right we forgot giving any value to intention and what people meant when they you know what I'm saying and I think it's just like oh I took a line out of this thing context and like dead yeah out of here you know and I'm sure are really wrong that's the problem because there's so much good in this to like so many people are being exposed like Harvey Weinstein right wrong that is good that that got exposed it's good that those people had a voice it's good that that started a movement right no denying that but it shouldn't be lumped in with any offense you know is all I'm saying yeah yeah yeah and I think it's it's also it's funny because it's like it's like everything's moving in the same direction like all the things that come out of context like you look even like at text messaging yeah it's it's all going that way like somebody says something to you yeah and you read it a certain way and like you said the intentions missing like they say I could tell people go [ __ ] yourself in the most loving way ever but somebody that doesn't know me might read it out of context you know what I'm saying and so it's like it's just the way the world has started to work you know okay I feel bad for what's going on because I do honestly still believe at the end of the day everyone has the best intentions right everyone wants everyone to get along everyone wants to be happy healthy love each other like not on some hippie stuff but I do believe that and I think that there's just this moment happening of everyone being like yelling at each other screaming oh this is all crazy so I'm gonna go be crazy and that's not a healthy way to live right so that's why I think it does come to an end cuz nobody enjoys this nobody the accusers don't enjoy and the acute I'm telling you I have I believe the accusers love Islam so they love ruminating in some of them some of them some of them sometimes but man boys in front the fun to hate sometimes man like not me but don't hate from a happy place ever right you just never do yeah but you know how many people aren't happy but that's what I'm saying so no one's happy so we're gonna make me halfway Asian right so the accusers I don't want to say that I want to be super careful here but what I'm saying is the people that are constantly outraged aren't in a good place right like that's not a good feeling no matter what the offense is that's not a good movie I see what you're saying okay the ones that are being accused or that are guilty are obviously not in a good place no one's in a good place within the same hurt people hurt people yeah yeah yeah but it's a messy one man I I think I think a big a big contribute to it all is you have this shift of generational like how contents being consumed you have all the major news networks all these major stations are owned by like six companies and now you have that influence being transitioned over to people who just start YouTube channels or like yourself who start companies like a huge thing it's like a rat race did you all ever have an issue with anything or has it been no clean no for you a maybe it's possible to be perfect bro no no far front we've had our own issues right but but not never I've been super duper careful and well I mean the first thing that comes to my mind is like your brand is called young and reckless yeah no kid has ever taken that too far well not in the name of the brand yeah not on my you know but we've also been careful of that like we are very careful with what we say like we know we can't encourage people to go jump off your house right like we just we know that that's a risky thing right and even I think for me to be honest I learned that lesson pretty early because when we were starting our TV show like I said our executive producers were the guys from jackass and MTV had been in some legal trouble because kids were hurting themselves trying to emulate jackass yeah is that when they put the disc getting yeah with Johnny Knoxville telling you trained professional believe that's where it started ha but it was super serious so anything on our show that you could directly like copy we couldn't do it had to be so outlandish that you couldn't copy it that's literally YouTube just laid that hammer down really is that anything that is easily recreate able you know if it's dangerous and it happens in your content if it's easily recreate able and anyone can do it at home yeah that will get flagged and possibly removed the monetize whatever the consequences are but okay so then what uh excuse my ignorance but then what in your mind young and reckless what's the meaning behind that yeah so that's all is gonna say to like I really try when I created it I created it for people that were like me or like what was pumping me up right and that's leaving your small town not going to college when your parents say you shouldn't going out there and disregarding what people say you should do to live the life you want to live whatever that is it doesn't matter if you want to go travel the world you want to start a company you want to be a daredevil whatever you want to do it's that it's that feeling that I think I try to to promote right and that's the type of people I talked to on my podcast and that's the type of you know what I mean like I really want kid I want people to come up to me and say look I dropped out of college and started my business because of you and this year we're doing five million dollars in revenue and I you know because that's all I felt I felt like moving to LA listening to people I wanted to work at a skate shop and live in a one-bedroom apartment like my life is a dream I you know what I mean so I think if I can pass that on some way and all I did was pay attention and listen to people and ask that by siding go to college I think if I can pass that on to people that's the goal you know and if there weren't a younger shirt while they're doing it great perfect so how do you keep those ideals because it's very easy to get lost in the sauce when you come to LA I mean you're on a TV show yeah you have a multi-million dollar apparel company yeah how do you keep the thought in the back of your mind like if this doesn't go right and I need to keep this grind up I'm going back to Ohio versus forgetting about it which a lot of people did yeah so I think that I you know when when robbing big our first show really took off I was 19 and I got exposed to a lot of like Hollywood stuff pretty early and I think I just recognized pretty early that it never led anywhere good you know what I mean like I saw people up all night doing drugs and worrying too much about girls and all this stuff and taken themselves too serious and one to be the coolest guy at the club instead of a guy with a good idea in a in a office right and and I think that I just never luckily I never looked up to the cool partiers I never looked up to the coolest guy at the club I always looked up to the people with cool ideas that created something and I knew that was a trap and I think you know I've had my I've had my fun I've had my moments but I never got sucked into it and I always had that you know move back to Ohio in my head yeah I was like well I can party my way right back to hot even like the Cleveland part no that's I mean that's that's cool I I also don't look up to the partygoers etc and part of the reason I do like to have fun and party is because I believe life is about balance like work hard play hard time thing but also like man that's where I draw a lot of my inspiration from that's that's where I get a lot of ideas for um like for example us opening the podcast talking about X Y Z seeing the culture of LA because a lot of people don't have that inherent thought that you said you have is luckily yeah you look up to business businessmen yeah and people who want to want to create stuff yeah I don't think that the party culture in LA or what's going on at hydor Warwick will ever drive strategy behind a brand but I will tell you it drives a lot of [ __ ] content part of having a clothing company that's doing well is big parties we still party a big clubs and don't get me wrong I still go out still drink still have a great time it's when you start to base your like self-worth on how you are at hide or ONEOK that's when you see people start to fall off right they're more worried about do they have enough girls there do they have this are they cool enough for their bottles a table you start to put your value more in those things and not on what you're actually creating that's when you get screwed yeah a lot of successful people party really hard it's not that it's just you've got to be careful where you put your Plus once you jump it up past the alcohol I feel like that's when it turns out guys you guys at the end of the day are tame I am now because I was forced to be I'm saying compared to the LA culture out here oh oh oh yeah oh yeah sure you guys aren't drugs we don't do drugs yeah no yeah drugs is never that's where it all goes bad yeah pull the plug and don't do drugs kids yeah um I have to ask when you pitched this idea of the clothing line did you pitch it to Rob did you pitch it to MTV were they like wow we want to put our hands in the sand with you yep so the way it worked is I came up with the idea I knew this was my moment to launch it was right when Fantasy Factory was launching not rob and big and you know it was Rob and big black were the stars of Robin big big black moved to Texas to raise his newborn daughter when fantasy factory started so it was me and Rob so I was like this is my chance right I could never get a sponsorship or anything like that on Robin big I wasn't a big enough character so I came up with the idea young and reckless of course the first person I went to was Rob and I'm like hey man I got this thing and you know the short version of what he said was like all right we'll go do it like I don't have time to like what you want me to do like launch a brand for you and I'm like and I was devastated I really was because I was like man like I thought you were the key to success you know - Rob's intense with him yeah it was similar like yeah yeah I wanted to get moving no no I wanted to get him in my documentary about education and somehow I ended up at his house and I remember I asked him because I got invited to a meeting and I asked him as we were leaving and he's like no no I don't really want to be in that uh I'm more involved in I'm you know more focused on building businesses yeah and it was just like it's that that was he does that really well like no nope but also thanks oh dude it's dope it is to just be deranged wasting no one's yeah yeah it means well he really does but but I think when you get it like when you get to his level of of like doing it you don't have time for anything you've been that way before he was a pro skateboarder he just says what he means you know which is in the end a good thing it's just that if you don't know or you know you just get a moment hey man you could you could take it the wrong way but did you take it did you kind of know at that point not to take it personally I knew not to take a person but but I was hurt like because I thought like that's the logical next step right so the way that it worked is then I you know I had been on robbing big for a couple years I was on this new TV show I went and tried to set up meetings with everyone that I could anyone in LA that I knew that had a clothing brand or anyone that knew knew and I pitched it you know I said this is what's called its young and reckless and this is what's gonna look like and blah blah blah and and I found my business partners and they were these guys that had a brand for like seven years before me they knew how to do all of the manufacturing and distribution all that stuff and they got it what most importantly they just got it they saw like this weird experimental thing we're down to give it a shot and they did and then it worked out and the last part that I have to add is I am so thankful that Rob said no because if not it would have been a a hand me thing I wouldn't have known what I was doing and it would have been out of business in two years like there's no way it would it lasted I built in it sucked at first man but it forced me to now ten years in I know this thing like the back of my hand I know why we're here I know what's good and what's bad and we're not going anywhere and I feel very confident about that right so I gained a business education by him forcing me to go figure it out it's awesome yeah what's your uh what's your breakdown right now from a sales standpoint you guys are in retail through third party right you don't have you don't brick mortars right 50/50 50/50 yep so it was this so uh you know we built the brand at retail right the way to do it was you go to these retailers you fly around you show them your clothes you try to convince the buyer to buy it you take them out for a nice steak dinner and you slowly build up shelf space in like Macy's and all these different places that's huge for us and so we did that for six years and then all of a sudden retail started dying and when retail starts dying everyone starts making really dramatic decisions right and in clothing you have orders out for a production months and months and months in advance so if Macy's says hey we can't take that order anymore I'm sorry we have it it's being made and we're on the hook for right and so it was a rough you know in like 2015 it was rough man because it flips quick so even if your sales are high your profit can be real low because you're you're stuck with inventory you know what I mean so at least at least you never gotten to a point where you're holding a bunch of actual real estate inventory because that's that's a with the realist retail apocalypse a lot of people went out of business because you're holding on that real estate inventory we've been lucky to have our showroom and econ model work very well together we don't have stores we have showrooms just like Tesla does or peloton does and so you go in you you you view the product then you can go home and order it but um so yeah it's so you have a hat 50-50 split yeah used to be ninety ten all you know whatever but when that started happening we said okay well we got to figure this out so that meant like unfortunately firing a lot of people we essentially replaced our sales team with like a you know media and and Facebook ad targeting team and SWAT switched out our whole staff and strategy and put all of our effort into EECOM and now it's instead of nine to ten it's 5050 and we're finally you know back to bigger than our peak year as of last year and now we're off to the races right like I mean obviously it's tough and who knows what's gonna happen in in in the world but we know what we're doing and we feel pretty confident we can scale our online business and not have these big traumatic things happened you're not doing TV yet right like to actual TV ad by now no you guys do it yeah that's when the needle really it's weird because in a society where everybody's pulling the plug yeah well that's why it's so weird because until what as soon as we turn TV television ads on we saw these massive movements in revenue and and so I've talked other brands shark ninja other brands that have had the same kind of things happen with television if you know once you get there do you'll be it you'll watch the scale go yeah yeah yeah crazy no that's great yeah I feel like your brand specifically falls in the separate category like why do influencers do free post for your brand like I mean I didn't want to answer the question but it's I'm saying like it's it's even me bro I was like four years ago right it's how we met yeah I answered like two bifold like I'll give you the quick one it's it's I think it's a product that they see they they want to try to figure out first of all how do I get this I've seen it on social media the first thing they want to do is reach out via DM to me and then the other part of its bifold is managing that relationship and he'll tell you when he talked to me for the first time he was expecting some I was expecting a dweeb and I and I text his student like I like to throw people curveballs to test their character and what kind of human being they are yeah so I was like yo like can you [ __ ] on these things and he's like what did you say I said the covers are washable so yeah you could just watch the comb right out of them and he was and he was not expecting that yeah and it's a good balance of like corporate and not so I rolled a very important brand message into my conversation with him and it was the first time way damn a [ __ ] good at this [ __ ] so he was like I want to work with this dude and so that kind of started everything off and he was he was the start of an influencer program that has I can't even describe worked with jay-z thank you love are you welcome love sack you're very welcome worked with jay-z Ariana Grande like pretty much everyone Under the Sun Rob Gronkowski like every influencer actor or actress and so on it's been really good for us but the media dude like yeah once you start cranking that stuff man it's gonna get fun for you quick yeah so how did how did you I don't know the regulations or the rules but how was MTV okay with you marketing a product using their distribution outlet and them not taking a cut or did day no I'll tell you two ways that I got really lucky number one they just weren't very savvy to that idiots they after you know shortly after that they had a lot of shows with products and they did take an aggression now that being said not to totally diss them they might have usually but because Rob had so many sponsors he had you know DC stuff all over the he wrote out that obviously you're not gonna get a piece of what DC sells that's our monster energy a Red Bull right like those are just his sponsor so there was already things in our agreements that were you know they didn't partake in any increase sales from brands featured on the show so we lucky lucky I had a question for that's a turn here that it's not a happy one what was uh what was the passing of Chris like for you it was tough man it was really tough it was uh that was the first real adult friend that I that I've lost you know talking about big black by the way black yeah cuz I think you know when I was young I had some friends pass away and and then as you get older you know people you know pass away and suffered and it's obviously always terrible but that was like my dude you know like when I moved here and I got off the plane and went over to their house to hang out like it was like robbing big before the cameras like they were just hanging out barbecuing and hanging out and like literally I would sit with him until 3:00 4:00 in the morning and talk about girl troubles or you know me we had a relationship on that level for many many years and so that was the first one and it affected me way deeper than I thought you know like we're all tough guys I think that when something like that happens you're like man you know that sucks I'm gonna keep on truckin and there was a day when I was driving to the office and I just started crying like really crying and I don't not really a big crier and I was like man this is crazy so yeah it was rough man it he was just so I mean you saw I made millions of people love him right because of his spirit and I think like being around him you felt that even more and being his friend you felt that even more and I think it's a it's not the type of you think someone like that's gonna live forever you know and so when that happens it I was did he ever give you something that you still hold on with you to this day like any piece of advice or just a moment it's just more his attitude you know he's so frickin tough and I don't mean like yeah obviously he's tough he's a 64 like 300-pound black guy he's he's he's been through so much stuff like he dealt with real real real racism growing up in Mississippi and a little bit in Chicago and and he just had a you know and obviously he was a super big guy and even when Robin big launched like everyone would notice him first anywhere he went people were on him because he spotted him from a mile away and I think that was the biggest thing is when it came to lie struggles girls struggles when I was young and didn't know what to do work any of that stuff it was just this sense of toughness that you knew how much he had been through and he's still able to like take his shirt off and dance like a stripper you know I'm saying you're like man that's the way to deal with a rough purse no it's it's actually something I I talked to these guys a lot about too and I mentioned it slightly before and I've talked about a bunch of times lately but I have been through some trauma myself and I would always kind of take that trauma and I would bring it up in myself and think like Oh like I've been through this or that and I a couple years back I met this guy Travis Mills in in Maine he's a veteran that lost all four limbs Afghanistan and I from an ie D attack and that perspective yeah it was was helpful for me to remember how well I have it yeah you know so I think it's probably people like that that are so like smiley and fun to be around a nice person I am in a bad mood how did he come to you he came up to me he had a his prosthetic hand and he entered the room and you just felt this presence and it's a big you know army guy and he come and he comes up and he goes good to meet you and he went to shake my hand and I grabbed it so lightly and he goes oh my god and starts screaming and I'm like and then he goes gotcha oh if this dude is that happy that positive playing games and and by the way running or a treat that uh that is helping other wounded people get back to life like what the hell what am I going yeah it was that was that was the thing you know I can't remember any one thing specifically but man he was a good dude that [ __ ] Jake and I up because I mean beyond just watching the shows influenced a lot of what we do like Matt you'll see when we walk around it's it has the same vibe as like fantasy factor in there it was funny is when I posted about him everyone was tagging you and we didn't we don't know each other right and so everyone was tagging you in my photo and I'm like what is going on and so I reached out to Amanda Cerny and I was like hey I don't we made these like shirts with big black on them for like a memorial and and if Logan wants like I'll send a bunch of shoes I got he only wears his own merch I think I might still have some well that's very true for the most great yeah I just assumed because they're almost tagging you and either one tagging Logan Paul in my photo but I assume yeah I have a theory is it because of me and Evan look we sort of oh yeah yeah because what my roommate um Evan also my best friend and is it dwarf so it's like oh yeah see it's the smaller version of Robin big in our own type of content and yeah we're always [ __ ] around by the way people tag him also in everything like I it's just it's like I feel like that's what it is they just released a new web series called best friends and yeah I mean that's that's been a part of your life for a long time yeah plus you guys I mean you guys influenced a whole generation through what you did like it's gnarly man I'll tell you like for me looking back on it it's like super trippy because for us like you know for you guys and correct me if I'm wrong but I feel like you guys built up like you started a fault you got a following you Baba and now the sudden you have this thing that's insane you know for us it was like we could maybe do someone say maybe we could do like a TV show and then like they put cameras in the house but this is before like YouTube or anything and so we start filming ourselves just messing around but it's all worthless content then a writer comes into but the point is it gets to the point where Robin big was nine different pilots shot edited and sent to MTV all denied before the tenth one was finally approved Wow and when it got approved Jeff Tremaine said to me look man like your guy's life is gonna change like people are gonna recognize you out in the street and blah blah blah and that seemed like the craziest thing in the world to me I was like no way dude and and sure enough it hit and Robin big especially and Fantasy Factory - but Rob & big was such a phenomenon like when MTV was at the biggest and it was this different thing for MTV and like it's so weird to now look back at it and be like man I was a part of something crazy you know we didn't know what we were making is it uh is it weird or does it ever get annoying when people bring it up I'm always hesitant to bring up work XYZ has done in the past if especially if it's like a staple of how people know them yeah for me number one if we're doing a podcast obviously about like my my story obviously it's it's gonna come up so it doesn't bother me we're good it was four years four years people be like what's up with the mini horse and you're like trying to buy some new shoes you know like it sucked but that doesn't happen going to like an investor meeting would treat me like I'm their little homie you know they're like coming up to you in your life girlfriend or wife now now I'm very very very like grateful for it and like can look back at it from a different perspective is it a girlfriend girlfriend you gots a girlfriend yeah yeah yeah yeah it must be nice yeah what seemed cool no I'm dating as well the trusty vegan yeah trust a vegan though didn't take his girlfriend now on a Valentine's Day yeah today's her birthday and also what are your plans Spencer she's working til Tim and then I'm gonna go hang out what should I do let's figure it out right now show up with flowers okay and vegan chocolate soy okay she beginning to yeah they're like a amazing vegan meal I don't know if that exists bring her to crossroads I mean you got to do something trust oh yeah I'm listening I'm here I need help boys yeah you got to do flowers you got to do a nice vegan meal you gotta like you'd be like I'll baby and then like when you talk to her be like yeah I don't know like I had a long day I was podcasting like I'll just see you when I see you BAM surprise actually is there a way to bring flowers which like technically they're plants and then actually eat them because I look into it write her a note too I could happen you ever have a girlfriend that you were talking to that you split off with and it seemed like it was like an amicable split and like you guys were going separate ways and everything was good and then you they do something like [ __ ] up bro I've been pretty lucky man when I break up I don't like I unfollow I don't check pages like I try not to feed into any of Bashan because that can happen so easily and the moment you you know feed in anything you're just lighting that thing back up you know what I mean and so I I have been very fortunate that's how I'm the same way as you with that III tell people I told him and plenty other people like when I when I put a bandaid on that wound and I start to see it heal over I'm not pulling that scab back yeah I don't want to revisit that [ __ ] that's the big mistake yeah everyone makes yeah I think if you watch the scab heal without a band-aid it makes you tough as nails dude and like I'm sort of a masochist in that way like like what do you mean by that like say I get hurt let's go in analogy land right now say I got the the scab of break up the wound of breakup okay and it's like starting the heal and I'm I scratch it a little bit what's that mean like text like hey maybe and and then you know it's a wound again a little bigger this time and ugly and disgusting and smelly then you got yourself a scar now you have a scar forever less tight though that's a scars as Mars or but when do you gonna lie me and you're gonna have all these damn scars all over the place I love you Logan you think as far as worse than this [ __ ] squirtle tattoo next to my dick cuz I got I love Pokemon yeah I'm kind of quirky okay like I am quirky I'm a geek and like I grew up loving Pokemon til like even now and his name is squirtle and it's next to my dick okay it's good enough for me got a rich story right anymore we were we were talking we were talking a lot about you know the fact that you have a business it's thriving but I think something that's interesting because I've been following your journey for a while you you started getting really deep into personal development and I feel like you I don't want to discount that journey yeah I'd love to hear from you like what motivated you to get into self development and into becoming the best version of yourself because I gotta believe that if you didn't do that young and reckless probably wouldn't be where it's no chance this is what it looked like for me I think that I moved out here when I was 18 I I a lot of success early you know I was kind of a part of all these shows and doing all this stuff and but I still had so many bad habits and I did not have the tools to be like really successful and happy and balanced and like really be a good person and so I think like I said I was smoking cigarettes and and and just super unhealthy and all this stuff and I think what really ended up happening for me is in around 2015 when retail started having trouble and our business got just clobbered that took a huge toll on me and I got real unhealthy like I was every night just chugging wine at my house by myself like mentally unhealthy just wondering what it was all for what am I even doing what is the whole loop maybe Ohio is better for me than California I don't need any of this and it was really like not good and dark and not anywhere where I ever saw myself going like I had these ideas of myself being successful and being all these things and whatever but so the point is I went through this patch it lasted about you know real bad for probably six months and I I just slowly started turning it around I slowly started working out a little bit I slowly started learning about meditation I always thought meditation was the weirdest hippy Buddhist I didn't know what it was but it wasn't for me right and I learned about it and and started using it and then literally like I have my boy who like acts as my life coach and I always thought life coach meant like oh like you have like a drug problem or something that you need someone whatever it's just keeping me accountable to goals and setting goals and where am I going with my business and how am i planning on getting there and all that stuff and I think it just sent me into this journey of reading a crazy amount of books having guests on my podcast that could help me with this thing and just learning how to have these tools it's it's like I think some I don't want to say like oh poor me and other people have it better but some families maybe there are high-level executives or something like that in business and they can train their kids how to be super super successful right that's not where I come from and so even though I thought I was super sick at like 26 years old you know I was just killing it I didn't have the tools I didn't I couldn't talk any of this stuff and and it all added up and it imploded and I think it put me in a real bad place so now I just love it like I think that you know I'm not like a weird like I said a weird hippie guy and and and that sort of thing but I just there's so much you can learn about about improving yourself and calming your mind and not going crazy and setting goals and being grateful for your life and they really do help and I wish we learned it like in school or something but they don't that's what he's working talking of his if you could start a school where you do that I yeah there's as I'm working on a documentary about education yeah and so I've been I've got a bunch of schools that I'm visiting in the next couple months but it's just wild I mean if education especially in America was designed to create factory workers and we don't live in that society so we read the same books at our parents read and what happens is our kids and us like we went to school and hated school like we didn't have fun some people you know you like school but it's still you know you're trudging through it and school is meant to education is never meant to stop so I think what you've tapped into is true education yeah and I think that the the stuff you hear in school is just such a fraction of you know what I mean it's like here's algebra here's whatever there's nothing about how to set goals or how to like the fact that your mindset is something that is changeable and that you can work on it and exercise it like a muscle and you can become more thankful for your life and you can you know all these different things I heard a rumor that you had like affirmations or something you used to do is that true yeah man when I was in high school I wrote down on a piece of paper I will be the most successful person I know and I hung it on the mirror yeah by the way [ __ ] does that mean what like the other is it is that monetary is that like a population thing I don't know but I just had this burning burning desire to win yeah and achieve success and I would repeat it to myself in the morning and night every time 10 times a day yeah and it came true in in the most wild way possible yeah yeah and I remember when I wrote down my first goal ever which was to uh which was to buy a laptop the laptop that I that I got that I started editing videos on I just I wrote it down and I was like this is never gonna happen this is why it's like a twelve hundred dollar laptop what how am I gonna get this money then when it came true I realized the power of creating a goal yeah yes now I had something to look forward to that I needed to make happen because he was on a piece of paper yeah gets you mom I'm extremely into that and actually after this podcast ends I'm gonna go write a couple and hang the new ones up on the mirror for 2019 when I met Logan for the first time I walked into 1600 vine actually I think it was like the first time we met I came over and there was a Christmas tree that had a dildo as the angel and condoms on all the branches yes yeah I mean I was like this dude does it different for sure that's a normal Christmas tree and then we ended up I ended up helping him film some videos and we were shooting a little skit with maverick and I like saw on his mirror in the bathroom he had like a sticky note that said I'll be the number one entertainer in the world and I it like that to me motivated me I was like I was relatively big on affirmations cuz they've helped me so much but when I saw that I was like oh he's doing it to ya you know I thought I was alone yeah there's a reason why I mean growing up like I said like growing up skater kid from from Akron like that stuff seems so weird you know it's just so like well I don't know man that's some weird spiritual I don't know there's a reason why so many successful people have the same story right there's a reason why these things work and I think it's something that I wish we could sort of take the weirdness out of and just teach people how to do it like a like it's a course or something yeah you'd be amazed at how much just because all you're doing is focusing your brain everyday on what you want to do it's it's funny to say that because I think because I am probably out of the three of us the least developed in personal development goal setting and and those kind of things and I've for reasons other than laziness and and other people's reasons a lot of the time because things that I've been through and things that have taken the priority of my time and an effort but I think similarly to you I found out the power of goal-setting and key performance indicators and stuff for business yeah and now I have to get a little bit smarter and just apply those same tactics to real life yeah and set a strategic you know five years set a five year strategy set a tactical you know yeah routine with daily goals and so on and so far that I still haven't done it or done a good job of it but it's funny to hear from someone like you that kind of learned how to do it from a business stands first and then just applied it to a person then you know it's just like anything you dive into one book and then there's three more that come out of that and then you find a podcast and then you find it this like if you want to go down that road you can go down it pretty easy and I think like it's shocking how much information there is out there and how just it's just another world that you just you just not taught to think of the world that way right things like learn learn learn some are lucky some aren't I don't know work hard there's a lot of science being conducted right now that shows like seventh grade as the cutoff period where seventh grade is usually where imagination dies so if you horrible that sounds so sad it's what happens though unfortunately because we focus so much on standardized testing and preparing kids to know certain things that I would argue to that it dies because you tell them it's not worth it it's there's nothing to it you tell them like kill that learn math you know I mean and so I think we kill it it doesn't I think you can get it back like yeah like isn't he right like you can't tell me his imagination was dead it and I think like the kids who are the reckless ones in a sensor or the Mavericks are the ones like us that end up like you're such a rebel you're getting in so much trouble in high school or whatever yeah that you end up being successful because you're so against that conformity yeah almost always yeah you know there's a saying the ones who think they're crazy enough to change the world are the ones who actually do it yeah yeah it's yeah that's a belief I always feel weird when a girl stranger like even for you for example walk into my bathroom and they see you know I will be the biggest entertainer in the world I will be ksi on August 25th I'm like what are these well think like probably think I'm a crazy man but at the same token I [ __ ] am true I want to go to an audio-only QA I'm gonna individual right here but yo Chris thank you for coming on where can they find you on social media drama on Instagram and a short story long on from my podcast of course shout out ohio couple ohio boys in the house there we are hit that subscribe button audio only QA on Spotify and iTunes right now impulsive the number one podcasts in the world thank you guys for listening take it easy peace

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Length: 70min 31sec (4231 seconds)

Published: Mon Feb 18 2019