Downspout Drain, French Drain. Why this pipe is so important for DIY

hey good morning Chuck here at Apple drains you know for that do-it-yourselfer you've got Lowe's and Home Depot great both great places I prefer to go to Lowe's because they have more drainage supplies let me show you what we're gonna get today maybe it'll help you you know understand some of the drainage and some of the costs as well so on this next job we're installing we're going to put in about 200 feet pour in solid and we're gonna use that this is going to be hooking up down spouts drains and the downspout Jayne is the most important part of any rainwater drainage system it is it protects your house beyond any other drain everything can be attached to the downspout drain so we've got 200 feet and you can see how much they cost over here they're about 75 bucks for a hundred feet we're also going to get some connections so we need at least forties they yeah 80s teas and other fittings they're very costly it was it will surprise you the cost of a four-inch tea is seven dollars and 20 cents the fittings are going to add up so quickly they're almost using enough fittings it'll be almost as much as the whole roll of pipes we're also need some downspout adapters and there's two kinds this one is a 2 by 3 but we need to find that three by fours so chance we'll look for those we need four of those these things are going to add up really quick but you know what they're great it makes it easy when you get all your material before you start digging that way you don't have to keep running to Lowe's so on this job also we're putting in a sump pump which usually will mean we're going to have a discharge line and that means we're going to run inch-and-a-half PBC I like to use these bigger couplings you can see how much bigger this one is than a regular small coupling they hold much better don't worry about a leak although it's not really a big deal if the pipe does leak a couple drops here and there it's not going to make any difference at all but we're gonna go ahead and grab a few of these and those are about a buck apiece so there's another 10 bucks just in those so some other things that you might want to think about if you're running inch-and-a-half pipe these are called no hubs they call them flexible couplings but they're called no hubs and there's two types this one is just a hard rubber and then you've got the actual no hub coupling you can see it and this one is made more for sewer and drain I like to use these in case that inch and a half pipe is offset ever so slightly this will give us the bend because remember PVC has it's very rigid and you have to have fittings the smallest turn of a PVC pipe is 22 and a half degrees and you can see how that adds up it goes 22 and a half 45 90 so this gives you that little bit of offset I usually grab two of these just to be safe even though we dig a pretty straight trench it's always nice to have a few extra parts but remember there's different types of each thing we've got a I see three here they've got three of them this one says it's a shielded you can see that this is an inch and a half as well there's three different kinds these are more for sewer and drain if your plumbing on a sink or a bathtub you can also use these are approved for sewer and drain but again I like to use them for our rainwater drainage system nice to have a couple of elbows so we're gonna grab three inch and a half 90s and you can see they've got the coupling on it let's put that in our bucket and I wanted to show you the difference real quick I've inch and a half you see those two couplings this is a inch and a half coupling but see how much the jumper this one is there's a big difference in these fittings and yeah they cost a lot more but this is the one I would recommend that you use for your sump pump discharge liner whether it be inch and a half or two inch you know get the bigger coupling and pay a little bit schedule 40 PVC you can see it's about just about to put for ten feet and they're actually gonna bring us a pallet but you can see it's easy to buy easy to transport and you're all set and then finally because we are using PVC what we want to do is get some PVC cement and a lot of people moan and groan about you know you should use primer and all that stuff well to be honest I've been doing this 30 years and none of I just used regular PVC cement and it does not come loose it doesn't drip no worries if you're going to get you know a primer and a glue I recommend you get a once a real quick let's look at some catch basins we're gonna put in a nine by nine here on this job all this catch basin is going to do is be collection there's an area by the shed that floods and I will show you that as we start to dig and the sump basin would sit right beside it and this is going to be the collection of water in the lowest spot and it'll be a pipe that comes out and runs over to the stump basement see how this would set up this is the basin it has a solid lid we don't want the water to drop straight into this pit we want the water to be collected off to the side through any type of system whether it's a French drain downspout Katz's basin and there's lots of catch basins you can see the big 12 by 12 with decorative colors you know standard ones here's a nine by nine with a solid metal grate saying there's all kinds of catch basins I do like to use the small round catch basins I think they work great but this customer asked for you know the bigger basin tried to explain to him that no matter what size basin this is the outlet is still the same there's the outlet so you can kind of see this flooded area this is really low back here and they actually put some plywood back here just to walk around it underneath of the shed all flooded this whole area through here so what we need to do is we need some collection.we french drains cats basins and we're gonna need a sump pump because this is lower than the street fortunately if you remember this job we actually installed a sump pump down in the crawlspace so they have a discharge line that comes out we can tie into that since I've been here it looks like they've got some sewer problems okay so they've got a plumber out here working on that looks like that old cast iron line there broke in a couple of places but yeah real simple job something you guys could easily do and we'll show we'll start with the back of the house you can see this landscape bed here and you can see how this yard just drops off to it when it rains really hard this whole area back here floods and it even floods up into the shed which is sitting on blocks but it still comes out high so there's no gravity from here out to the front there's no way that water can flow so we need to put a sump pump back here and you can see where the inch and a half stops that's where we'll put our sump basin right now the guys are cutting the sod off and then we're also gonna hook up downspout James that's probably the biggest problem of all homes across the country down spouts drains splash out that water runs right back over into your basement crawlspace or under the slab so we're going to go ahead and cut the sod off all through here you see Matt's making a nice nice little line right there we'll hook up another downspout another downspout and there's one more there in the front that will hook up if you remember we did a job here where we put a sump pump down in the crawlspace and we've got an inch and a half pipe that comes out they're actually doing a new sewer line there as well that's why this is all dug up but we'll attach the second sump pump to this line so check valves won't let water go back into the crawlspace and it won't let water go back into the back pretty straightforward something the homeowner could easily do themselves this one these people are a little bit older and would prefer to have it down about Jane is the separate drain completely and it should be that way on all homes so we're hooking up four downspouts remember there were two around back off of the porch and then one here at the corner of the house and you can see we've got a four inch solid pipe and it'll run all the way out you can see the hill so we've got to get through that hill to keep our gravity in our fall it'll come right over here to the corner of their lot right here and it has just enough fall you can see that rise in the in the land there but will come all the way out here to the sidewalk and put a pop-up or grate so that the gravity from the roof all those downspouts can come all the way out here to this so the front really straightforward and a good project for the do-it-yourselfer if you look here at the video you'll remember what the parts cost I showed you that and add it up you'll have three four hundred dollars in parts we're suspending three or four thousand so they've already got you know pretty much the sawed it off here in the back and we just put sod on one side put your dirt on the other and you start to dig it goes really quick remember to work backwards real important to work backwards it's just like a machine machines do not dig forwards they dig backwards you are just a human machine if you do it yourself and set your sod right beside the your trench so that you can easily put it back that's the key to making it look good if you put a tarp out great we didn't bring any tarps to this job it's not going to matter it will get enough stand up off the ground the first rain it'll all disappear and it'll be hard to tell we were heroes if you're going to put a backyard sump basin in they have power here in the shed which is great they'll have an electrician come out and they'll put a GFI outlet here on the outside so right there we'll put the pit down into the ground it has a solid lid cover and it's totally disappears the way we're going to collect the water is we're actually going to put a catch basin maybe right there in front of me to allow that water into the basin we don't want the water to drop directly into our sump basin because it pulls all the debris you know anything mulch grass clippings leaves it pulls all that down into the basin and makes it hard for the sump pump to lift it up we do use a solar m-98 and it isn't a fluid pump but that means is it is a grinder and it does grind up solids but why directly put them in when you can put a catch basin off to the side and bring the water so one of the hardest things that you do especially when you have high ground water you can see the water right away and we're about half way down the more you dig out with water the more it collapses so your holes going to get bigger and you can use post hole diggers you could use a machine auger it won't matter it's going to keep collapsing and filling back up with sand so you've got to dig that out we're putting a catch basin over here you see the little section over they don't put a catch basin that's collecting the water not the basin the catch basin is the sub basin it holds the sump pump this line comes out this is the inch and a half PVC and it'll go all the way around and tie into the existing sump pump line so the base up the way any other Basin does we're gonna drill some holes in the bottom so that that water in that hole can come up and keep this basin down into the dirt because otherwise it'll float up but there's nipples on both sides right take a hacksaw good sharp hacksaw oh you just cut that right off this is gonna be the inlet line let's flip it back around this is the inlet line for the catch basin that's collecting the water that brings the water over to the sump basin and then of course some pump will sit down here well lift it up and we'll go right through the side of the basin with inch-and-a-half it's a two inch hole saw real simple drill through it bring it in plumb your Sun cover okay so we're gonna make connection to an inch and a half pipe this is the sump pump discharge line that comes from the crawlspace it comes out and it turns we're hooking our crawlspace excuse me our cell come from the backyard to this line there's check valves that stop the water from going back into either sump basin we're going to use a Y and you can see if we cut off at the couplings on both sides it will be a very tight fit so what we do is we use a no hub and this side is glued but we're going to make our measurement back farther so we can slide the no hub over the pipe and then over this pipe and tighten it down real simple to do but you really only get one chance of this so let's go ahead and cut that I'm gonna make a measurement here let me make sure I've lined up looks good I'm going to cut this side first you're just gonna cut right through it I want to cut it back to about right here okay now we'll just clean these off we'll get some glue glue this stuff right up on here good just right yep looks good next piece great amount of grill get this one in there good and tight perfect now we can put the new hub on let me put my glue away so while we can slide the motor hub back over top of we're loosing that up a little bit more we can slide it all the way back then come back and get a nice connection pretty straightforward pretty easy now we'll tighten it up this is tighter that'll make it we're all set I'm gonna go ahead and put a temporary long D here because I need to plug the pump back in but we're ready to go okay so we have it all installed you can see the downspouts with the downspout adaptors now we're just backfilling you notice that we use the same trench for the inch and a half pipe and that goes back to the sump basin we're gonna install the something basin on Monday because the groundwater is too high and we're gonna have to use a mud pump to keep up with the flow it's tremendous a lot of groundwater the ocean is right behind that building is less than half a block so it must be high tide because that water is really hot but anyways I've got this all plumbed together you can see the four inch solid pipe running all the way out to the street just finishing it up out there made our connection to the existing sump pump line with an L hub showed you how to do that remember I said that sometimes your lines offset so it's just ever so slightly right there but a no hub gives it the bend that we need we're all set let's go out here and see what's going on okay you can see that ground water we're gonna have to use the mud pump to keep up with that as we put to some basin in so we'll do that on Monday got a check valve here at the end so no water from the crawlspace can come back and of course there's a check valve on the crawlspace as well chance is just cleaning it up we'll go ahead and put that side back on there after that's all clean Matt's taking care of this spot over here and this backyard will be back together in just a few minutes so let's go around front I'm just walking so you can see ease the install real straightforward just hooking up pipe once you have your trench dug and again I talked about using the no hub to make a really nice connection again I used one right here because it's just ever so slightly offset maybe two degrees but there'll be enough play with that no hub to give it that a little bit of play to make a nice straight line what you're looking at right there is a sewer line and the plumbers are doing that work that line they're gonna replace of course they have to come through our all of our stuff but that's what they got to do one final downspout right here remember the downspout it's the most important drain of the entire house if you just splashed this water out even if you spin it out this far that water's gonna travel back underground go into the crawlspace or the basement and you have problems always better to send a four-inch pipe all the way out to the street sidewalk get it as far away from the house as possible okay so we're just battling the line and we come to a pop-up I suggest that you put a set screw in here you see the screw I put in right here because when it rains hard that rough it gathers a whole bunch of water I mean tens of thousands of gallons and it will it will just blow that pop up right off right off of there so always try to remember that otherwise you're gonna come out here every day every time it rains put this back together put his net screw in there it will help so we're all done just backfill and we're out of here so before you put your sod back on you really should have an area cleaned up that looks just like that you get all that dirt we didn't put any tarps out there and you can see it comes up really clean takes a few more extra pulls with your rake but you know pick easy to do and now we can set the sod back on there it's going to settle perfectly and we'll be all set hey this is Chuck with Apple drains reminding you if you believe you can do something guarantee you can do it have a great day [Music] hey don't forget about Live Help video consultation via skype or facetime can 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Length: 20min 26sec (1226 seconds)

Published: Sun Nov 24 2019