yo I'm pretty sure we all seen these types of numbers [Music] right or these kinds of sigils and skills but we're here to tell you that most of this cap stop the cap stop right now stop no bro yo what's up squad team sys here with your boy light and isi and today we'll be talking about the unreasonable expectations set in this game when it comes to high DPS builds and go into detail about build symmetry but before we get into all that we would like to give a shout outs to got to do homework for his tremendous Post in Reddit uh which basically breaks down a lot of the numbers that we'll be using in this video today so with without further delay e let's get it all right so let me cover some of the important points that were brought up in this post and we'll also talk about what we've seen in this game ourselves after playing this game extensively so this guy opened 100,000 curios to calculate the drop rate for some of these sigils and what he found was quite interesting first of all war Elemental and normal supplementary damage 5 sigils are fairly easy to find and if you've made it to Proud Mode it wouldn't be surprising for you to have a few of these however supplementary 5 plus sigils are extremely rare how rare you ask he calculated it to come out to around 0.07% which is about 70 out of 100,000 curios and considering that more than half of the second traits aren't very useful the probability that you'll get a supplementary damage 5 plus sigil with a good second trate is less than 0.035% so to put that in perspective between isi and myself we have about 500 hours clock into the game and we have not seen a single one now given regular gameplay assuming you clear about 8 missions an hour and while you have a 100% curio drop rate that's 962 hours to get one which is about 160 days worth of Gameplay at 6 hours a day for 160 days straight to get one single good supplementary damage five plus sigil now let's say you're AFK farming curios and you somehow have a one minute clear you including the load screens while you have that 100% krio drop rate so that comes out to 60 curios an hour which still comes out to 128 hours worth of runs to get a single supplementary damage 5 plus sigil on average now please note that a one minute clear is extremely optimistic and not very realistic so the real number is actually far higher higher than that and yet some players out there have three of them and are claiming it's just from a few casual nights of AFK farming now is it possible that someone just gets obscenely lucky and grabs one early of course but three and all with different usable substats now if you believe that then I have a bridge to sell you right and the game's only been out for two weeks so no one's clocked those kind of hours just yet but to fill the void um we are going to be providing today basically a conceptual template uh for builds for characters um but for context I want to say that we're not here to judge anyone or to necessarily call anyone out this is more so to help newer players as well as advanced players out with what's more reasonable uh at endgame and to do this my myself and isi will be showcasing two builds uh with isi's Eugene he's going to build it from the ground up to show what's reasonable at endgame as a guy who's put 300 hours into the game and I'm going to be showing jeta as someone that I'm moving over to as my second Main and I'm going to be showcasing her build the Symmetry and the Synergy that's needed to build a character like her I've never played her before uh but this would be fun to put together uh so without further delay let's hop over there and check it out okay so I'm going to be talking a little bit about the thought process I go through when I'm uh trying to make my build I'm taking a fresh character here for example my Eugene um you'll see that his weapon he's just using a normal Ascension weapon isn't isn't even maxed out yet he only has 10 out of 12 sigil slots so we're going to see um what we can do to minmax his DPS um so here we go first of all what we're going to do is I'm starting off with no sigils on you want to First find out um because you don't know if you're capped out yet right if your damage cap is out yet so you want to first kind of Hit the dummy a little bit you can do this and at a boss as well but it's easier for me to just go into dummy I'm going to start shooting the dummy a couple times I'm going to take note of the biggest numbers I see um those are going to be my crit numbers oops all right so biggest number num I'm seeing are somewhere around 15,8 62 I think is the biggest number I've seen so now I'm stepping out and I'm going to be throwing on my first DPS um sigil to see if that number changes at all so I will be going in I'll be throwing on a single tyranny go I'll throw a tyranny on and then we're going back to hit the bag we're going to find out if we have reach your cap obviously you don't have to do this one at a time like I'm doing but I'm just doing this to help maybe break it down a little bit so as you can see bigger numbers are getting hit 18,800 I saw 20,000 there so you can tell that like without any damage caps I still hadn't hit my damage cap so I'm still able to do more damage now I'm going to go back I'm going to quit out again I'm going to throw on yet more DPS to see if I can get my DPS any higher I'm just using fives for example so that I don't have so you guys can see that I don't have anything else getting in the way um but obviously if you have the five pluses of any of these um with useful second traits that's going to always be better you're going to want to be raising up your your crit raate and um crit damage and things like that as well so you know all of that is going to come into the equation but as you can see right now um he only has his attack and h HP uh so I already have a tier level 20 hp that's giving me plus 80 attack off the bat but you know in a world where I'm 8,962 attack um it's not making too much of a difference but either way here we go now we're going to go back the bag we're going to start hitting him again let's see if we can see bigger numbers than 20,000 saw 21,000 22,000 so we still hadn't hit our cap yet so that's good to know 22,000 all right here we go so that's our that's our new number and if we're capped out then the next tyranny we should we throw on no matter how much more we try to raise our our attack damage output it shouldn't change that number right all right so right now I am currently at level 30 33 out of 30 so I Max out on tyranny um let's see how that changes my DPS so number to beat right now is 22,000 let's see here 23,000 okay so I'm still seeing bigger numbers than I saw before so I still don't need any damage caps number wise 23,000 doesn't seem like a very big jump 23,800 6 okay so possibly I may be capped out now but we'll find out we still got a keep throwing on more DPS so at this point you you'll obviously have a lot of choices um you're going to have you're going to want to keep in mind also that like some of these sigils they come with a damage cap included on them um and some of them are more obvious than others for example um the sigils if you use this if you're going for straight DPS then you might be using something like a glass Cannon right and the thing about glass Cannon you can tell if I put it when I put it in that included in it is a damage cap so whatever attack plus you get from it the damage cap will follow along with it so this is kind of hard to tell um if whether or not my C damage cap is going up so I'm going to leave that out be use this uh be careful when you use this because every time you get hit you get inflicted with dizzy and um the dizziness resistance isn't going to help you with this glass Cannon so let's see here uh next one I'm going to throw on I mean there are a lot of options here I mean depending on your play style you're going to obviously you know overdrive assassin break assassin these are going these might be good too um let's see here but for Eugene Eugene is a character that attacks with range attack so I'm going to put on concentrated fire concentrated fire um gives me more DPS for r attacks and everything that Eugene does is ranged so let's see how that changes my damage all right here we go so number to beat 20 okay so I'm still seeing bigger numbers than before seeing 24,000 almost 25,000 huh 24598 and I can notice that 24598 is way more consistent than the high numbers before and that's a big indicator to me that um we're hitting the cap but just to just to be sure we will throw on another concentrated fire here to show you that um no matter how much more attack I stack on to this Eugene right now it's not going to change my DPS why can't I find there you go all right another concentrated fire here we go so another 24598 you see you see we're hitting that c 24598 24598 so yeah that seems to be our cap right now all right so 245 98 currently we we're hitting caps so now this is where you finally start putting on your damage caps so now keep in mind that depending on what kind of weapons you use and what uh stage you are in the game or what character you're using the damage cap is going to be different so make sure um you don't just take a template from a com some template you found and just put it on cuz you might be wasting a lot of sigil slots that you could be utilizing otherwise for more um more damage or more survivability or whatever else that's going to help you in the game so you'll see now that now that I've added uh one damage cap it's going to raise my damage cap now and I think we're still going to be capped okay 29 5 548 so you can see that I'm hitting almost 30,000 now so my D my you can tell that my damage is going up 25 29 548 I'm hitting those numbers consistently again so that's my indicator that I'm probably hitting damage cap so I am going to throw another damage cap on to yet raise my damage cap and I'll you'll see here that the DPS should start exceeding 30k now so you see that we've come quite a far quite away from where we started already off the back um here's another damage cap and obviously you know if you have the five pluses for these once again um you will be using those and trying to put in everything else as possible but here you go now you see 32,000 33,100 n that was 33,8 67 all right so you can see that the numbers are a little bit more inconsistent but I'm hitting 33,000 now um which means I could probably raise my DPS even further now all right here we go I'm going in again throwing probably another concentrated fire um before I do actually let me let me show you guys that um if I what happens when I throw a war Elemental in here no actually wait wait no other way around okay so I am going to throw on yet another concentrated fire there we [Music] go so I've got two damage caps and concentrated fire fire on all right now we should start hitting cap so I'm seeing 34455 34,44 is the biggest number 34449 so maybe I can go even further with this huh yeah 459 seems to be the biggest number so far so now we're exceeding 33,000 okay now we're going to be adding a war Elemental onto this character there we go we're throwing a war Elemental on and you'll see why War Elemental is so clutch me show you the DPS first all right off the bat you're seeing already four 40K so you can see that the numbers jumped real big and that's exactly 1.2 times the the amount of damage that it was doing before and the reason for that is going to be because Okay the reason why the damage went up so so much right there was because what this with with with this war Elemental it makes so that all attacks count as a superior element so you're always attacking as the enemy's uh weak element for any character you're going to always want to be putting on that war ele putting on this war Elemental this is going to help you greatly so you want that 1.2 times damage and then you know if you have it if you're there you're going to want to put in um character specific sigils depending on which skills you use as well right those are pretty high um priority so as far as Eugene goes uh let me see here okay so I I don't have um I don't have Eugene's uh char character specific sigil yet on hand but if you do I'll have to take a look at it but if it's if it seems like it's useful if it seems like it synergized as well with the skills that you're using then definitely um make that a priority you're going to want to try to find the ones with um both of the character unique skills in them if that's what you use but if not um try to go for the ones with um either the with one that you use um that you would be useful for your character plus a second trait that will also help you like something with more DPS or something that will help you with your survivability with whatever style you're playing in but um yeah I hope you guys kind of un see the thought process that goes behind when you're trying to test out to see if your character is actually dealing um the most DPS as possible obviously a lot of other things come into play here such as your play style so if you're always um if your character is as agile and good at moving into the enemy's weak points then um Sig like exploit are going to help you out a lot also if you want to be a team player um you you're going to want to consider putting in SS like linked uh you're going to want to consider putting in sigils such as uh spe link together um and uh skilled assault might help you as well depending on how fast your cool down is so if you have uh extra cool down putting in skill assault might help you to increase your skill damage um which you'll be able to use more frequently with your cooldowns and things like that but this is all all obviously you only have a certain amount of slots and you have many many choices to go for to choose from so um it'll depend what kind of sigils you've picked up and what kind of sigils you want to use but um I would say a high priority here would be to increase your crit rate first and then your crit damage Dage um try to get some uh some sun in there if you want to be a team player as well because getting into that link time is going to be a lot of DPS during that time it's some of the the most DPS you do in some of the fights towards the end when the bosses are pretty agile so um you're going to want to make those openings as well so a lot lot of uh this comes into consideration when you're making a build and realistically trying to be as um effective as possible in the end game when it comes to DPS um it's not just about purely trying to raise your attack power but to keep all those things into consideration to build the strongest build that you can so um on that note I would also like to point out that right here I you can see that I used um damage cap fives concentrated fire fives but if you have a choice between a five and a four plus the four pluses are always going to be better for you granted that the second trait on the four plus is something that you want to use as well um I hope um that kind of explains a little bit about what goes through my mind when I put together um my build and decide which sigils I want to use for my character and if you guys have any other suggestions please um leave a comment and let me know uh if you guys have any other sigils that you like let me know about that as well all right yo so that's going to conclude this video hopefully you guys enjoyed and found this video informative uh I know me and isi had a blast recording it um if this is something that you're interested in that being conceptual Theory crafting build guides uh then help us out with the YouTube algorithms by commenting liking subscribing and sharing we really appreciate you know all the support and help uh and then also on a quick note uh shout shout outs to combo Rush who won the our first uh giveaway um that was in the Discord server he won a steam gift card if you want to be considered for the 500 sub uh giveaway or the 1,00 sub giveaway uh join our Discord server link is in the description uh lastly I want to say again that this is not a a judgmental video or a high horse video it's not what we're intending with this video you can do whatever you want to do obviously and people are doing whatever it is they want to do it's just more of a video about what to really expect when you're at ingame uh and having reasonable expectations um and not necessarily feeling that you need these particular sigils to be good because at the end of the day you can have all the supplementary five pluses you want with the super duper scope build and all this other crazy stuff but if you don't have the skill to match it you're still going to get slapped around the map for example the other day I was playing with a a team of people man the whole Squad had supplementary five pluses three uh dudes were beefy we went out there and they were laying all over the floor had to go help them up off the floor there was no potion hoarder there was no Auto revive there's no guts it was just raw DPS uh and it looks cute until it's not cute uh so do yourself a favor by learning the Symmetry and the Synergy of putting a bill together not in a selfish DPS type of way but more so where it could be a benefit to the team that you're playing with as well uh because um that's fun and that also looks cool more cool than being picked up off the floor every 20 seconds and then lastly I think we can all agree that we're all very passionate about the game uh it's a very very great game uh and we hope that they Continue to update it past May um so let's keep it competitive let's keep it fun and uh yeah I'll see you guys out there in the hunt team Sy it's your boy light and isy Squad out light [Music] work