Don't Buy a PC Until You Watch This - i5-13600K Gaming PC — Parts Selection Deep Dive — Part 2

hello and welcome to Tech deals building a new pc can be an enjoyable rewarding experience it can also be a frustrating difficult experience if you are new to PC Building or you haven't done it in a while if you are looking to build a new pc and you want a deep dive into the part selection with a discussion on why to pick or not pick certain parts and the pros and cons of different choices then you have come to the right place gosh that seems like a lot do I really need to watch all of that maybe not we have a shorter version of this video Linked In the video description below for people who are more familiar with current products and PC Building this PC is primarily focused on gaming it will also handle content creation business work multitasking and more however that is not the focus here the goal is to build a PC that will provide four years of gaming performance at 1440p for a reasonable price this is the second video in a series on this build you will find the playlist Linked In the video description below that will be added to over time as we do further content on this PC build without further Ado please grab a drink grab a snack and let's get into it buy Windows 10 professional for 15 activate instantly online with Microsoft and keep it forever don't pay full price get the best deal from our sponsor urcd Keys using our Link in the video description below full details on how this amazing deal works at the end of the video today's video is not scripted usually they are which helps to condense a lot of information into a fairly short for me that is video instead expect my raw thoughts on each part as I share my take on the current options for a mid-range gaming build everything in this build will be linked in the video description below those are affiliate links using those links while shopping is a great way to proactively support your favorite content creator our links will take you to our own dedicated store selection page and there you can pick from Amazon Newegg b h Best Buy and more if one store is sold out check another please note that Intel sponsored part 1 of this video series however they are not sponsoring this one now they will be sponsoring two other videos later in this series but this one has to be all me because I do have some nice things to say about AMD and you can imagine how well that conversation would go our original two thousand dollar build featured Intel's I5 13600k 14 core 20 thread CPU that is an absolute Beast for just over three hundred dollars many people would compare that CPU in terms of price and overall performance to amd's ryzen 7 700 100x or perhaps one of the older i9s the I9 10900k similar price points almost kind of sort of similar performance but not quite the truth of the matter is the I5 13600k is faster than the older 10th gen iodine 10900k in all respects single core multi-core makes no difference the new I5 is faster it is also faster than the ryzen 7 700x in most respects however single threaded performance sometimes the ryzen 7 will win sometimes the I5 will win in multi-threaded performance the I5 generally wins in everything and with the new AMD discounts they both cost about the same except for motherboards and RAM and we'll talk about that in just a minute one question many of you may have is if you're going to buy the I5 why not buy the i7 13700k for about a hundred dollars more well if you've got the hundred dollars by all means do so the actual differences between the chips are not large six performance cores versus eight performance cores they both have the same number of efficiency cores however the TDP which of course can be adjusted on a z board but the TDP is higher out of the box the clock speeds are higher out of the box and it will last a bit longer however if you are not happy with 14 cores might I suggest you might want to LeapFrog the i7 and go straight to the I9 it is telling that when Intel sent us the launch samples they only sent us the I5 and the I9 you go budget or you go big you go in the middle and you spend more money but you don't really get the best and you still have compromises to live with and yes the I-9 does cost more but I have a thought for you this is the last of the CPUs that will fit onto LGA 1700 new motherboards will be coming out one of the reasons why people like AMD historically and this goes true back more than 10 years the top Intel CPU on any given platform the I9 9900k which was the best of the 300 series boards the i7 7700k which was the best of the one in the 200 series boards and so on holds its value better than the mid-range chips you will pay more for the I9 but if you sell your CPUs or simply want to use it for a long time to come in a secondary machine it will last longer in terms of both money and performance than the lower end chips so you pay about 200 more for it versus the i7 but you get that back later and you get a CPU that will last four to five years in your primary machine and possibly another four to five years in a secondary machine having said that discussions of i-9s really do sort of leave the mid-range build all I'll say is this if you're willing to spend the money on an I9 3900k I would strongly encourage you to consider a ryzen 9 7950x 16 cores versus 24 but they're all 16 performance scores eight performance versus 16 efficiency it's I've done videos on this it's an interesting mix but if you've got that kind of money look at this as well because then the ddr5 and higher price motherboards aren't as big a deal the problem with the lower end ryzen chips is the ddr5 RAM and the motherboards cost more than the Intel options overall the I5 13600k is the best bang for the buck of all the CPUs here one more thing about CPUs this discussion is for brand new builds where you're buying everything motherboard Ram Etc if you are upgrading then the situation changes if any of you out there have a am4 platform a x370 x470 motherboard a b550 motherboard and you've got a ryzen 7 2700x a ryzen 5 3600 run don't walk and go buy a ryzen 9 5900x or a ryzen 7 5700x and drop it into your current board moving on to motherboard selections there are about 18 500 motherboards to pick from well maybe not that many but it sure feels like it at times some of these manufacturers legitimately make more than 40 different motherboards on a single platform which is utterly ridiculous but that's a topic for another video so let's talk about the Intel side of the table don't bother with a B board the the money savings isn't worth the fuss you can spend about 120 to 130 at the time of filming for a decently equipped b660 which is one number higher than this but let's not go there either a b660 motherboard for Intel and you lose a lot of features in the process the boards generally tend to have fewer USB ports fewer expansion slots fewer m.2 slots a little bit less power delivery the audio and the Lan options are usually downgraded not by a lot but you sort of take a little bit off the board to save that money they didn't save 50 magically you can buy a z690 motherboard for about a hundred and seventy dollars several different manufacturers make them Asus has a very nice z690 Prime board it's the prime Dash p for 170 at least as of filming this video fairly basic board but better than most of the B boards however The Sweet Spot is at two hundred and fifty dollars which sounds like a lot of money to anybody who hasn't built a computer in five years I hear you it used to be a hundred and fifty dollars was The Sweet Spot those days I'm sorry are over yes the B boards tend to cost that much these days this Aero board uses ddr4 Ram and for anything other than an I9 3900k used ddr4 the differences are meaningless you want to use something like this master board which uses ddr5 if you're using the I9 3900k here's the shortest tldr ever ddr5 makes a substantial and noticeable difference over ddr4 if you're using an RTX 4090 at 1440p if you are using an RTX 3090 at 1440p the difference is less than two percent between ddr4 and ddr5 if you plan to upgrade later maybe it's worth it but if you plan to upgrade to a 4090 in the future don't buy an i5 by the I9 because if you've got 1600 video card money why are you buying 300 R CPUs we'll talk about that more on the graphics card section this is a really nice board it's about 250 it comes with exceptionally good features Amazing Power delivery quad m.2 slots it's got more USB ports and you can shake a stick at it's a really really nice board you don't need what you get up here in the 350 to 400 range unless you're just building a super premium four plus thousand dollar PC and you just want the best of the best this is sort of Where The Sweet Spot ends now as far as AMD goes you absolutely do not need an x670 board the b650s are fine but you do get some more features there and again ryzen 5 ryzen 7 but as you move up to the 7950x I'd actually step up above the steel Legend to be completely honest to maybe get the Tai Chi it's a 500 board which is outrageous but if you've got 600 CPU money and you're buying a 1600 video card in for a penny in for a pound overall the deal is that the 250 dollar price point now it's time to talk about system RAM and I've used at least one or two kits in my life one important thing I think is worth considering when discussing system memory is experience versus benchmarks you will find many people will say that 16 gigabytes is all that you need for gaming because they run a completely clean test bench they load up one game nothing's running in the background everything's turned off they look at the system memory usage it is less than 16 gigabytes on a fresh reboot of the machine and they will proudly Proclaim all you need is 16 gigabytes to game well sure and if you use your computer like that I guess that's a true statement but since I'm willing to bet you don't can we please take 16 gigabytes and put that aside if you're building a new machine in 2022 or 2023 at a minimum it should have 32 gigabytes of RAM and especially if you're watching a YouTube video about building PCS it should have at least 32 gigabytes of RAM the real question is should you have 32 or 64. now we're not going to discuss 128 that's professional level machines that's i9's ryzen nines that's people who make money with their computer and there's a place for it I have a machine with 128 gigs I make 4K YouTube videos it makes sense but for most of you the choice is 32 versus 64. in actual use in terms of using a machine with chrome tabs open maybe a second monitor you load up a game you've got three or four launchers in the background maybe your OneDrive and G driver syncing Windows updates are running antivirus scans are running and updating in the background yes you can get by with 32 gigabytes today but maybe not tomorrow 32 gigabytes will work for most people today you do not need 64 gigabytes to have a nice experience and to have a nice computer however we're trying to build a machine that will last four years now one thing people will say is well why don't I build a machine with 32 gigabytes today and I will upgrade to 64 gigabytes tomorrow fair enough let's talk about that with ddr5 there's some logic to be said there you can spend up to 200 buying 32 gigabytes of ddr5 RAM really nice Ram RGB premium Trident zrgb5 Etc but if you're buying ddr4 which you should be if you're buying a I5 13600k the price difference is a nice dinner we're talking about eighty dollars versus a hundred and sixty dollars to go from 32 gigabytes to 64 gigabytes I would make the argument that if you're building a ddr4 system today the 80 difference is not worth the savings it is not going to be substantially cheaper in the future by enough to bother and when you buy more RAM in the future you're now mixing Ram kits that were made at different times which might or might not work together and they might or might not cause you any issues when you buy all your RAM at once you can be assured from day one everything runs the way it should if you can afford it and you decide to go to the ddr5 route for example you're buying an I9 13900k then I would argue you should go with 64 gigabytes of RAM if you're building a 24 core machine in 2022 or maybe 2023 when you're watching this the ddr5 cost of 64 gigabytes while not cheap at 350 to 400 means you don't have to think about Ram again this is about ease of use this is about the next four years of not having to care load your programs load your games load everything that you want and then you just don't have to think about it new game coming out I've got the existing stuff running oh I've got to close programs I've got to shut things down are my services all clean do you really want to care for a relatively small percentage of the price of your machine versus going I'm done with ram I've got enough that I never have to think about it those of you who have watched me regularly know I'm a strong proponent of having more than the minimum amount of ram why on the world people want to argue for enough versus plenty is beyond me especially at these prices ddr5 I understand but at ddr4 there's no excuse for 160 you can make all that go away now as far as Ram's speed goes I did a dedicated video on that I did 3200 versus 3600 CL 16 versus cl18 I use three different Ram kits and drum roll please the difference was basically nothing you can find a difference in Ram speed if you hunt for it many of you may have seen benchmarks from other YouTubers and on other websites that said oh look if you get a low latency RAM and and you overclock it and you tweak the timings you can get an extra 10 frames per second yes you can if you're using an RTX 3090 TI at 1080p low detail raise your hand if you plan to play at 1080p low detail with an RTX 3090 TI because if you don't none of those benchmarks mean anything with an RTX 3070 or 3070 TI with a RX 6800 XT at 1440p high detail there is basically zero difference between 3200 3600 or 4000 in ddr4 ddr5 about the same thing the only place where you really start to notice it is when you go really extreme in terms of graphics card performance an RTX 4090 at 1440p will start to show a difference in Ram speed but if you've got sixteen hundred dollars to buy a video card okay fine yes absolutely buy premium Ram with low cash latency it'll cost a little bit more but you're building essentially an unlimited super computer at that point not a mid-range build which is what this video is all about you cannot build a modern computer without a solid-state drive well you can but you're not going to so we'll just say that you have to I have used with a couple of exceptions of drives that are still in the package every SSD you see on the desk most of them for the YouTube channel but not all some of these predate the YouTube channel some of these were used for unrelated tasks for builds and some of the things that I did over the past six years but a majority of the drives you see on the desk were used for the channel now I do not have every SSD here some of these are 120 and 240 gig drives from 2016 they're kind of useless in 2022 but I still have all the boxes and it sort of illustrates the depth and breadth of experience you get when you test a lot of these things over the years I have also been doing a lot more storage much longer than YouTube I started my first computer network business in 1996. I've been doing this professionally for a living for 30 years IDE was new when I started in the computer business so it's been a while not that that experience has any relevance to today but it's just it's a depth and breadth of experience that comes from having dealt with this stuff for a very long time I cannot possibly cover everything there is to know about storage in a Roundup video like this it really does deserve its own video and even that would be long if I covered everything so let me give you the tldr version if you're building a 1500 to 2 000 machine in 2022 or beyond your boot Drive should be two terabytes please take it from somebody who has done this since two megabytes was a decent amount of storage on a three and a half inch floppy Drive I said megabytes not gigabytes it's important although I did buy a one gigabyte hard drive in 1993 that cost an absolute Fortune it was a fast scuzzy 2 hard drive for those of you curious man they were expensive back then 46 dx266 those were the premium days so take it from somebody who's done this for a long time if you are building a new machine in 2022 and you're in the 1500 plus price point two terabytes should be your boot Drive some of you will disagree with me all of you are probably wrong and the reason I say that is because I'm looking forward for years I'm thinking about the size of Windows growing I'm thinking of the size of programs growing forget your games from it you may put the majority of your games on a game drive but you might put one or two on your boot drive as well you also never want to fill an SSD more than about 80 percent full because their performance and their life actually get reduced when you try to fill them up too much interesting Quirk of ssds versus hard drives TLC versus qlc your boot Drive should be a TLC Drive I don't care if you're building a 650 Ultra budget machine it should be a TLC Drive qlc is fine for game drives it's fine for bulk storage it's fine for secondary or tertiary drives your boot Drive should be a TLC Drive all of your ssds should have dram buffers yes it's true I put a dramless SSD as the game Drive in the 2000 build in part one of this series I was trying to hit that 2 000 price point and I did some people objected saying you can't build this for two thousand dollars it was actually 1998 on the day I put the build together when I wrote the script prices change every day of course it's going to be different from one day to the next in 10 years that computer will be 50 bucks on Craigslist but that's a separate conversation your boot Drive should at least have a dram buffer your tertiary drives ideally have dram buffers but if they don't if you're trying to save some money if you want to go large I absolutely understand I have a couple of dramless ssds as well I do notice the difference on large game updates but they can happen in the background it is not in fact the end of the world you don't want windows on that as far as gen 3 versus Gen 4 it makes shockingly little difference random performance matters way more than sequential and none of the ssds can saturate gen 3 in random performance not even with high Q deps really Gen 4 is for upcoming direct storage and burst transfer modes and the price Gap has now dropped by enough yes your boot Drive might as well be a Gen 4 at this point it is not a huge price difference you're looking at maybe a hundred and fifty dollars for a Samsung 970 Evo two terabyte drive versus 200 for a Samsung 980 Pro 2 terabyte boot Drive gen 3 Gen 4 the 980 Pro is faster it's a newer Drive it doesn't make a huge difference in the grand scheme of things but again if you're building a fifteen hundred to two thousand dollar machine ultimately long run you'll be happy with the Gen 4 Drive solid drives are still fine especially if you don't have more m.2 slots so if you build a new machine you should have at least three if not four m.2 slots and the price difference between SATA and nvme is pretty minor but there's absolutely nothing wrong with using a sided drive for a second or third or fourth SSD if you need to the other big consideration is brand and this is where a deep dive is desperately needed because there are real differences between drives even if the specs look the same I have used a lot of different brands over the years and over the past couple of years especially I have noticed an interesting trend it has become easier to make the specs look amazing while providing a subpar Drive Samsung 980 Pros Western Digital SN 850x's and there's a few others out there are really sort of the premium drives when you start moving down from that list you start removing capabilities and features that you don't notice what do you see advertised on the drive you see the sequential transfer rate in terms of read and write speed under absolutely ideal perfect conditions you see that it's got a nice drive right life rating you see that it's got a modern Gen 4 performance characteristics but what you don't see unless you really dig into them is how large is the SLC cash all modern drives TLC qlc everything they all use SLC caches Because the actual native transfer rate of the nand that's actually on the drive is not that great so they all use SLC caches do they use a dram buffer how large is the dram buffer I have noticed some drives starting to cheap out you will find two and four terabyte drives with only a one gigabyte dram buffer your drive should have one gigabyte of dram for every terabyte of storage and you really get into a penalty with a lot of data on the drive once you fill that up you don't see it in a lot of reviews because a lot of reviewers don't fill the drives you have to fill the drive before you really start to feel that pain all of that theory is great but you probably want some specific Drive recommendations the long and short of it is you get what you pay for buying a Samsung 980 Pro or a Western Digital SN 850x if you can afford it and basically your problems go away those are the super premium options but there are several other options that are really really close lately I've been buying a bunch of these Inland Professional Plus drives they are very very similar to the Samsung and the Western digital they're actually made by Microcenter Believe It or Not of all places and the warranty is actually provided directly by Microcenter however they are not equipped with the same exact features and they don't come with a nice SSD toolbox software you can load in your tray and how many of you ever heard of Inland professional plus if they are less expensive it's worth doing if the price is really similar do yourself a favor buy a Samsung or a Western Digital when you look at all of the boxes on the desk you will see a lot of different brands I used to recommend a lot more Brands there really isn't a reason to anymore because the prices have now compressed yes you can save twenty dollars yes you can save thirty dollars but in the scope of a two thousand dollar build that you're going to keep for four years do you want to maybe good enough drive that holds all your data it actually controls the speed at which everything loads launches boots and updates or do you just want to go straight to the top of the list and buy the best for two hundred dollars you can buy either the Western Digital or the Samsung premium Drive in the two terabyte size and if you absolutely disagree with me on the size you could buy both of them in the one for about a hundred dollars in the one terabyte size if that's what you prefer and at those prices why buy anything else no gaming PC would be complete without a graphics card now some of you objected to the inclusion of the RTX 3070 in the first part of this video series and while I understand the objections my Counterpoint would be it's MSRP and it is a really really good card with great features on it yes the 6700 XT is less expensive in terms of a dollar cost per frame per second absolutely 100 without any doubt whatsoever buy a 6700 XT about 350 dollars versus five hundred dollars however you can find these used for 350 if the price bothers you and you want Nvidia features if you go up and down the food chain you will find Nvidia costs more across the board than AMD does look at the new 40 series versus the 7000 you're paying 1200 to 1600 for NVIDIA versus 900 to 1000 for AMD For Better or Worse Nvidia just costs more but Nvidia does provide nvenc video encoding and decoding it does provide yes I know the new 7000 series has some good features there but let's be honest if you're a professional Creator envenc is where it's at raytracing tensor cores Cuda support Adobe Premiere support I mean if you're editing videos and Adobe Premiere the way we are you have an Nvidia card and if you don't you did it wrong however for people who just want to play games and don't really care too much about Ray tracing yes absolutely for Value AMD is where it's at now 350 will buy you a 6700 XT with 12 gigabytes of vram and very good 1440p performance one thing that I did not talk about as much as I should have in part one oversight on my apart I apologize is that the video card included at that budget is meant to provide 1440p gaming in current games and games for the next year or two for the foreseeable future but when I said it's a four-year PC in my mind I'm expecting you're going to need a video card upgrade in two years think the 8 000 series if you want to skip the 7000 from AMD or the 50 Series from Nvidia so you could skip the upcoming 40 70 but if you buy a 30 70 you are going to need a 50 70. four years from now is 2026 and RTX 3070 or an RX 6700 XT is not going to be a great 1440p gaming card in 2026. that detail should have been maybe hammered home a little bit more in part one so for that I apologize if you would like to potentially get four years of 1440p gaming performance without needing a GPU upgrade well then you need to take a step up you can go with an RTX 3080 or 3080 TI or if you can find a good deal on a used one a 3090 can actually be had for about 750 these days with 24 gigs of vram that's worth looking at or for about 600 you can look at an RX 6800 or 6900 XT depending upon where you live the prices fluctuate they were a little bit better around Black Friday but they're still pretty competitive performance wise a 6800 XT and an RTX 3080 are very very competitive but the RTX 3080s brand new do cost one to two hundred dollars more again the Nvidia tax while it's a great idea to consider buying a little bit more video card to have four years of gaming performance I want to point something out all of these cards are already two years old some of them are a little over two years old if you're looking for something that lasts four years from today what you're really saying is I want to buy a video card that's going to provide 1440p gaming for six years not four because you're buying a card that already exists it does not fit within the two thousand dollar budget however if you can stretch your budget and buy an RTX 4080 or the new RX 7900 XTX for a thousand dollars which just launched and beats the 4080 in some games loses in others they're very close overall then you will get something substantially faster than any of these cards but it does not fit within that two thousand dollar budget there is one very important point that I want to make about graphics cards that applies almost more than anything else you can put in your computer you almost cannot over buy a graphics card yeah you can if you want to play very basic games but in general if you're watching a video like this you cannot over buy your graphics card even if you go out and spend sixteen hundred dollars on an RTX 4090 and you go well I just want to play at 1440p high detail that's a waste of bunny it is today absolutely that is a waste of money today but four years from now you will still have a premium experience quick rewind in 2017 Nvidia launched the GTX 1080 TI the 1080 TI is still a viable graphics card today not really at 1440p it really has kind of left the 1440p space at this point don't look at shadow of the Tomb Raider Benchmark shadow of the Tomb Raider is four years old new current games it's a 1080p card but it was a 1440p card for a very long time if you had ponied up the twelve hundred dollars that you typically would have had to spend four years ago for an RTX 2080 TI you absolutely have a 1440p graphics card today and you will for a couple more years to come I would argue that the RTX 2080 TI as expensive as it was for twelve hundred dollars four years ago is a six year 1440p card it's basically the performance of the 3070 and that absolutely has two more years of 1440p in it with only a couple of maybe you won't be able to run Ultra Max detail and everything but it has 1440p high in it in basically every game that will come out in the next two years if you spend 12 to 1600 on a card you may have a six year card where you don't have to care run everything in Ultra today and only three or four years from now we have to start turning it down to high detail to keep acceptable performance so if you spend more you just buy the future which is kind of cool if you think about it just as important as anything else you put in your computer you need a case you get what you pay for fifty dollar cases suck 100 R cases are really nice 150 R cases are very premium that is the long and short of it this is a Cooler Master h500 argb case it is currently 99 it is an excellent value for the money two 200 millimeter fans up front handle ports everything I own two of these I have built in this case it is wonderful for that price but if you want to step up corsairs 5000 D airflow case with the mesh in the front for about a hundred and fifty dollars is a step up it does have some features that are nicer but it costs more the 50 cases yes you can absolutely buy a case for 50 bucks you could buy a case for 75 and it's your computer you can do whatever you want I've built in too many of them I am never ever doing that again it is an unpleasant experience the metal is thinner something that you don't see in Spec sheets but the actual metal I have dented some 50 cases from handling them because they use thinner metal the glass is thinner the glass is not always as pure because they use uh two or four millimeter thick glass where some of the nicer cases use a thicker glass the fan quality nicer cases generally tend to come with better fans although I will admit Corsair kind of cheaped out by providing only two fans for 150 dollars to fans in The Cooler Master or better duel and these are actually really really silent I don't have any problem using those fans and we're you're talking to somebody here who loves be quiet not to a fans as much as they cost because they are silent reliable and they last forever but the overall quality of construction the ports on the top Cable Management in the back how the power supply fits in Drive mounting options and then one last point that nobody ever talks about unless they do a really detailed case review quality this is an odd one but the quality of the screws in the back for how the panels attach the quality of the motherboard Mount screws the quality of the drive tray screws in the back it all adds up if you're trying to build a 500 or a 750 dollar build I get it I understand you know 50 cases makes sense at that level if you're building a thousand to maybe 1200 R build if you can stretch to 100 case it's worth it if you've got fifteen hundred to two thousand dollars to spend give your sanity and your build experience a boost by buying something decent and do not buy those cheap 50 cases they are fifty dollars for a reason power supplies are an interesting topic it used to be any old power supply was fine I remember the days when 200 to 300 watt power supplies were all any computer needed no matter how fancy you build those days are long over many of you who have not built a computer in five years are going to be shocked to hear this if you can afford it and you're building a PC that's fifteen hundred dollars or over and you want it to last four plus years and you want to be able to upgrade your graphics card buy a thousand watt power supply that probably sounds like a lot to some of you who may be built a ryzen 5 1600 or a ryzen 7 2700x five or six years ago but in 2022 going into 2023 it is no longer Crazy your old computer with 600 or 700 watt power supply is not the same thing that's required today if you want to be able to upgrade now if you don't well then you don't need that you can absolutely go with a 650 or 750 watt power supply or a very lovely 850 watt power supply if you're just going to put an RX 6700 XT or 6800 XT in or or RTX 3070 or 3080 and you never plan to change it but the 4080 and the 4090 don't technically require a thousand watt power supply but you're out of your mind if you don't put one in there the new RX 7900 XTX I'm not used to the XTX yet I will get there also should have a thousand watt power supply they don't require it but you should you do not want to run a power supply at 80 percent of its rated design for hours and hours and hours on end you want to run it in the 50 to 60 percent range for a long time power supplies are one of the items I've had fail on me more than almost any other component power supplies and motherboards are the two things I've had more trouble with than anything else in my very long history of using computers and one thing I've learned is that running power supplies at too high of a load for too long kills them more than anything else except maybe for age a 20 year old power supply might die due to bad caps but that's a completely different conversation if you want to put a 50 70 or a 50 80 in two years when those come out you want a thousand watt power supply and you also don't want less than that 80 plus gold at this point the 80 plus bronzes do not cost less buy enough to bother with getting 80 plus gold get a fully modular and get something do your ears a favor get something with a fluid Dynamic bearing fan you'll notice I've got three evgas on the desk here there's a reason for that I'm a big big fan of EVGA now there are other brands which are just fun as well super flower recently entered the United States Market they have been selling over the years for overseas for many many years this G3 from EVGA is a super flower they used to make power supplies for EVGA now they use other manufacturers this G5 sitting here very nice unit I have a G5 on two of my test benches I used to have other power supplies when the 30 series came out and I put a RTX 3080 and then RTX 3090 I started having random shutdown problems those were 850 watt 80 plus Platinum very highly rated power supplies but they were two or three years old and the way they delivered their power and shall we say their overall build wasn't quite what the 30 series needed at the top end I replaced both of those power supplies with two of these all those problems went away and since then I've replaced all of the Power Supplies on my test machines with evgas and they have been nothing but trouble free you may notice there's a 1300 watt power supply down here even a 40 90 does not need a 1300 watt power supply this is a bit Overkill the only reason you'd want to get a 1300 watt power supply like this is if you're going with a 40 90 today and you're thinking I'm gonna go with a 50 90 when those come out and maybe a 60 90 and I want a power supply that lasts longer than this build I want to be able to replace my I9 3900k and I want to have a power supply that lasts me for 10 years if you want to 10-year power supply if you look at the direction that power consumption has gone over the past five to ten years 1300 watts is not crazy it's expensive but you might not need to upgrade for a long time kind 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same time we have been using product keys from urcd keys for almost five years now without any issues and encourage you to do so as well thank you all so much for watching to the very end of this video two gold stars for all of you still here this was a long video it was not scripted I shared a lot of thoughts that I have pieced into other places between Twitter and our Discord when we had it and in other videos and live streams in the past I've considered doing breakout videos where I do an entire video just dedicated to single topics graphics card selection I could go through the entire range of graphics cards and talk about who it's for how long it'll last what kind of PC it should go into does it make sense for upgraders to put into an old CPU what kind of power supply it requires let me know in the comment section below if you're interested in that the big pile of ssds one of the conversations I was having with my lovely wife Rogue was should I just go through that entire pile and talk about the history of ssds and what computers they went in and when they were used and whether they're useful today most of those ssds are either current or obsolete there isn't a lot of well I guess there is gray area in between them let me know in the comments if you want that I could do that for each of those topics and dive further in depth but my concern is that it will feel like I'm just taking what was said here and just stretched out some and if there is any of that that you want to see in a specific video let me know what topics do you want all of them do you just want ssds do you just want Ram or graphics cards or do you want the whole thing cases would be hard to do cases are such a highly personal choice a lot of that is Aesthetics some of you like cases that I personally have zero interest in and that is okay if you don't like the two cases I had on the desk and you want something completely different it is your computer personal computers are personal you can build it however it pleases you it's your money you absolutely should not do what I say if it doesn't make you happy that doesn't make any sense unless it comes to things like CPU and RAM and SSD selection which case you should listen to me because if I can be blunt I've used more ssds than about 500 of you combined I do think it's important to point something out 2022 is not 2016. we started our YouTube channel in 2016 and in 2016 AMD wasn't part of the conversation and intel was slow rolling four core chips after four core chips after four core chips we did a lot of budget builds back then 300 400 500 bills we did used builds we took Dell optiplexes and we stuck in uh GTX 1070 TI's and added some RAM and added some ssds which is for some of those ssds came from and then those machines got sold which is why I don't have the ssds anymore and so that was a popular set of content that we did early in the channel lately we've been talking about premium this and premium that and many people have been saying dude well I started watching your channel because you did those 350 dollar bills to which my reply would be dude the world moved on in 350 dollar bills are stupid I'm sorry you don't have to like it but not liking it doesn't change the reality the world moved on progress Advanced used computers and budget computers are now so far behind Advanced Computers the Gap has grown back then you could put together an i5 2400 that was not as fast as a i7 7700k but it wasn't that far behind it absolutely positively would work and it would work for a tiny fraction of the price what are you going to do today put together an i5 7600k four cores four threads an i5 8400 six core six thread locked it like three gigahertz no that's what you'd be doing if you built a used budget PC there's ryzen of course the ryzen 5 1600 and the ryzen 5 2600 were really interesting options in the day the cool part is if you own one drop a 5700x or a 5900x in there boom you've gotten it's an upgrade none of you should be using a 1600 or 2600 today and if you are why there's no need the difference in performance between a 1600 and even a 5600x is night and day upgrade already you have an am4 you've you've got like a free gift of amazing performance boost sitting in front of you but if you are on an i5 8400 unfortunately you don't have a drop in upgrade the i-9900k doesn't count it costs too much and so now you're looking at doing an entire platform swap which is why some of you will do one of these Horizons here because you want to be able to do a CPU upgrade in the future like am4 did which you can't do on Intel because these are LGA 1700 is dead and now I'm talking too much and so I'm going to go but thank you all very much for watching I appreciate you being here like comment subscribe and do all the YouTube things and anybody who stayed through all of that one more bonus gold star for you because you're awesome for sticking around watch time on YouTube matters thank you I will see all of you in the ddr4 versus ddr5 comparison

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Length: 45min 23sec (2723 seconds)

Published: Fri Dec 16 2022