Which $300 CPU Should You Buy? — i5-13600K vs Ryzen 5 7600X — 14 Cores vs 6 Cores

hello and welcome to Tech deals six years ago in 2016 three things happened in the PC World AMD was stuck with the Dreadful FX line of CPUs Intel released the utterly boring i7 7700k refresh of a refresh of a refresh CPU and we started a YouTube channel OK In fairness that last item mattered way more to us than to most people but if you're watching this video then perhaps it does matter because today we're going to test the new 13th generation of core CPUs from Intel and wholly actual smokes Batman these are not your father's four core CPUs and this is not your father's Intel [Music] today's video was brought to you by ewin racing the best source for gaming chairs in desks for those long gaming sessions we have a playlist of our ewin chair and desk videos Linked In the video description below save 30 off of everything using the discount code Tech deals more details at the end of the video the I5 13600k is a 14 core 20 thread CPU that runs at 5 gigahertz stock out of the box while consuming under 100 watts of power and running at under 60 degrees on a tower cooler while gaming to top it off it costs just three hundred dollars it installs on a 150 z690 motherboard using inexpensive ddr4 RAM and spoiler alert it's faster than the 12th generation Alder link surprise this is going to be a long video so please sit back and relax grab a drink grab a snack and let's get into it first I just want to repeat something because it sounds crazy to even say this out loud the 300 I5 CPU from Intel now has 14 cores and it runs at 5 gigahertz stock out of the box when we started our YouTube channel in 2016 the I5 6600k was four cores and it ran at 3 0.6 gigahertz this video will skip the Deep dive into the CPUs platforms differences Etc and instead focus on the benchmarks the I5 the i7 and the I9 CPUs will each get their own videos just like Zen 4 did and then a fourth video will be made with a deep dive comparison of the different chipsets the CPUs the cores the different Ram support and everything else you want to know about all of them the shortest recap ever is the 13th gen it uses the LGA 1700 socket on 600 and 700 series motherboards from Intel you can use the z690 for these CPUs and you should do so for cost reasons there's no difference worth caring about between the 600 and 700 series motherboards ddr4 and ddr5 RAM are both supported but not at the same time buy a ddr4 board for I5 or i7 CPUs by a ddr5 board for I9 these are hybrid CPUs featuring performance and efficiency core course the P cores have hyper threading while the e-cores do not Windows 11 is effectively required for 12th and 13th gen CPUs due to the new process scheduler for the hybrid cores we have three different test machines being used to Benchmark these CPUs as they are on different sockets rather than read out a ton of numbers for the next five minutes we're just going to put them all on screen right here feel free to pause the video to read them if you'd like the short version is we have balanced each test machine to be as fair and reasonable to each CPU as possible first we'll start off with some productivity tests to look at the single threaded and multi-threaded performance of each CPU cpu-z bench provides a simple and easy way to test your BC to make sure it's running as it should the big single core performance difference here is between the 5600x and the 13600k the new CPU is a whopping 38 faster that is not a minor difference and you will see that play out later in the game tests when compared to the 7600x the 13600k still wins however not by nearly as much nine percent faster is indeed a win and it is outside the margin testing of error however any difference less than 10 percent is extremely minor All Things Considered nine percent might not be huge but 58 percent sure is the 13 600k demolishes the 7600x due to its much higher core count I see many many comments online from people who say e-cores aren't real cores these people are foolish and silly e-cores are not P cores but they are very much real cores and from an energy consumption point of view they're actually way better than P cores compared to the last gen Intel CPU released only one year ago the 13600k is 35 faster than the 12 600k an impressive year-over-year gain not often seen since the 1990s finally if you want to talk impressive how about the 99 performance jump from the 2020 ryzen 5 5600x to the 2022 I5 13600k 4952 points versus 9866 points that is simply stunning keep in mind the 5600x launched for 300 just two years ago the same price as the 13600k is launching for today and you get double the performance when is the last time CPU performance at the same price doubled in just two years it has been a long time long enough that I'd have to sit down and think about it for longer than a hot minute to find that one off the top of my head without looking up actual numbers it may very well be 2006's Core 2 Duo e6600 to 2008's core i7 920 but regardless it's been a while cinebench R23 is more or less a 20 minute version of cpu-z it is based on a real workload however it tends to have almost perfect core and thread scaling the story is effectively a repeat of cpu-z so I won't repeat it all here 7-Zip is a file compression program that has a lovely built-in Benchmark note that if you wish to try this yourself on your own computer make sure that you're on the same version we're using 22 because the Benchmark does change between versions AMD usually dominates in these tests even with fewer cores team red it just does really well here the six core 7600k is actually faster than the 10 core previous generation 12 600k however the improvements to both core count and clock speed on the 13600k just cannot be denied it beats the 7600x by a solid 24 percent that is a huge showing in an AMD favorite Benchmark just as impressive the 13600k beats last year's 12 600k by 35 again a very impressive one-year Improvement that we have not seen for a long time blender is a great tool for testing 3D rendering performance on both CPUs and gpus I said in our ryzen 5 7600x review that if you are remotely interested in blender performance you should not be looking at a ryzen 5 CPU run don't walk and buy a ryzen 9 7950x that advice still holds true despite these results the 13600k crushes the 7600x by a whopping 42 percent however the 7950x then crushes the 13 600k by a further 81 percent rendering the win rather moot finally we have v-ray a 3D rendering plug-in used by the biggest media companies in the world seen Star Wars Rogue one Captain America Civil War v-ray was used to render the 3D effects in those movies this story here is the same as blender if 3D rendering and non-gaming productivity workloads are your thing the ryzen 9 7950x is your new best friend this 7950x beats the 13600k by 85 percent here I think that says all that needs to be said in the Zenfone reviews I said that the e-cores are great for multitasking but they're really not as good at multi-threading at least not in real workloads that was true for the 12th generation Alder Lake hybrid CPUs however it appears to have shifted with the new 13 gen raptor-like CPUs a combination of faster clock speeds higher core counts and perhaps further optimizations to Intel's thread director have improved the multi-threading performance of Intel's hybrid CPUs making them competitive having said that allow me to give you a minor spoiler from our I9 3900k review the ryzen 9 7950x with 16 cores is still faster than the 13900k with 24 cores in blender and v-write for Pure productivity workloads 16 e-cores on the 13900k are not yet enough to overcome the 8p core advantage on the 7950x but they are really close when the 14th gen meteor Lake launches next year with 24 e-cors it will take that Crown from AMD unless AMD does something impressive now it's time for some gaming tests if you have watched our Zen 4 reviews you know the format in order to expect before we actually get to the games however I think three important points need to be said first all of these CPUs will play games just fine at highly playable frame rates this is not a video meant to tell you that one of these will somehow not play games today far from it second an important question to ask is how much Reserve performance does each CPU have and what sort of multitasking can be done on each while gaming it is important to remember that we are running these tests on completely clean test machines Windows is freshly installed nothing is running in the background the task tray is clear no updates are running Etc put a dozen things in the task tray have Windows updates enabled be watching a YouTube video or listening to music have Discord voice chat open and you'll find your CPU load is higher than what you see here taking that a step further if you want to live stream or record your gameplay that will put further load on your system as well so keep that in mind when watching the CPU usage numbers for each game third most of the games tested came out in 2020 or 2021 we are testing while looking backwards at games that already exist that launched for prior generations of Hardware next year in 20 23 and further ahead in 2024 new games will come out that will be even more demanding that is kind of how it works if you see a CPU running a game today just fine but it's using all the cores to do it you may find it has very little future looking ahead remember that in general 50 usage on a CPU is all the cores everything else is hyper threading or smt in amd's case or that was traditionally the case when everything was just P cores and hyper threading today with hybrid CPUs it's a bit more complex we will cover that in a standalone video in more detail our first game is Assassin's Creed Valhalla a very demanding title that has been stuck at about 135 frames per second on every CPU to date this has been true for Zen 3 Zen 4 and 12th generation alderlink even the 12900k and the ryzen 9 7950x imagine our surprise when the 13 600k blew right past this with 165 frames per second average and 119 in the one percent low a stunning performance jump over both 12th gen and Zen 4. the 13600k is 20 faster than the 7600x that's impressive for a CPU two process Generations behind Battlefield 2042 is new to our Benchmark Suite several of you have requested this be added so here it is Zen 4 and both Intel CPUs are effectively tied in performance the variance here is due to live gameplay being tested on live servers Zen 3 is slower but not by enough to be worth calling out I wouldn't call it slow rather I'd just say it doesn't provide the same levels of one percent low numbers that competitive Gamers want to see and that for casual players it would be absolutely just fine this bring me to a point that needs to be discussed more often with reviews margin of testing error and live gameplay variants versus built-in benchmarks on built-in benchmarks any difference of five percent or less is really a tie as you can run most tests a dozen times and you get slightly different results each time on live gameplay any difference of ten percent or less is also a tie due to the Natural variance of playing real games with real people on real servers we consider this far more realistic testing for CPUs as it provides a real load for the CPU versus just using replay files that are effectively just watching a movie stressing only the graphics card at that point Call of Duty is perhaps the most popular online first person shooter game franchise of all time and a terribly difficult one to test in live gameplay here are four of the battles we played on a chart neither are the fastest or slowest results we tested rather this is a representative reasonable Middle Ground you can expect most of the time using these CPUs the 13600k and the 7600x are effectively tied here with the older CPUs just a little bit further behind cyberpunk 2077 has seen a new lease on life with recent patches and news of a major expansion coming in 2023 further development of the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One versions were dropped to allow CD projekt Red to focus on the technology of the future you can see why AMD wanted to get Zen 4 out before Raptor Lake launched Zen 4 is very competitive with 12th generation from Intel but it simply does not keep up with the 13th generation the I5 13600k is 17 faster than the 7600x that is an impressive Improvement given the 12th gen was tied with the 7600x as a side note the 13600k is 67 faster in the one percent low versus the 5600x from just two years ago that is a huge Improvement in just two years F1 2022 is new to our Benchmark Suite with the 2020 version finally being retired still very easy to run a good test for high frame rates and making sure the one percent lows are solid when we reviewed the 7600x we noted that the 12 600k simply could not keep up we ran and re-ran that test across multiple days to double and triple check our numbers it felt out of place but there it was Intel appears to have fixed whatever caused that problem because not only does the 13th gen run faster than the 7600x it is a whopping 31 percent faster than the 12 600k that is a huge Improvement Far Cry 6 is also new to our Benchmark Suite finally having retired Far Cry New Dawn 171 frames per second average is an impressive result however look at the one percent lows the 13 600k scores 134 frames per second which is almost equal to the 138 frame per second average of the 12 600k in just one year the average turned into the one percent low that's crazy even more shocking is the gain over the 5600x the 13600k is 57 faster in the average however Ponder this thought for a second the 13600k's 0.1 percent low is equal to the 5600x average note I didn't say one percent low I said 0.1 percent low that means that 99.9 of the frame times on the 13 600k are faster than 50 percent of the frame times on the 5600x this is the sort of performance Improvement year over year that we used to get in the good old days nice to see such huge performance jumps again Guardians of the Galaxy is another new game to our tests quite demanding and beautiful with all the ultra Ray tracing details turned on we will test it that way for the new gpus but here of course we have 1080p High test testing for CPUs the 13600k beats the 7600x by 37 percent as impressive as that is the one percent lows are a whopping 59 faster on the 13 600k in Texas this is what we call an old-fashioned butt whooping Hitman 3 is another new addition to our testing and this one is a Whopper of a demanding game it will use everything you've got to provide fast frame rates and smooth gameplay the frame times are smoother on Intel which is not reflected in the one percent or 0.1 percent lows on the chart but if you watch the actual recording you can see the difference the 7600x is using up to 70 percent of the CPU in front of the fireplace which puts it deeply into hyper threading really smt but whatever and leaving absolutely nothing left for anything else on your PC the 13600k is under 50 usage with plenty of Reserve performance to spare 70 is all the cores being used because the hybrid architecture again will discuss that in a future video however it has chorus Despair and it's faster than the 7600x to boot the main number worth actually noting here is the 43 jump in performance the 13600k provides over the 5600x another impressive Improvement in just two years Spider-Man remastered is another new game to our test Suite this is another game that will use almost everything that you can throw at it the 7600x and the 13600k are effectively Thai here both will run this game very well once again the main difference is CPU usage the 13600k has something left in reserve the 7600x does not also once again the newer CPUs leave the 5600x in the dust with a 38 performance gain via the 13600k over the 5600x Tiny Tina's wonderlands say that 10 times fast replaces Borderlands 3 in our test suite and we're mostly graphics card bottleneck tier even at 1080p even at high detail even on a 3090 TI crazy isn't it the average in one percent lows are almost exactly the same the small variance on the 0.1 percent lows is due to run to run differences we run these multiple times times it's very hard to weed those out so don't stress that the difference is too much here before we go to the 10 game average chart I want to provide some recommendations first if you haven't figured it out by now surprise I think the 13 600k is an Easy Choice over the 7600x they cost about the same for the CPU itself the 13 600k installs into good motherboards that cost half the price above the boards for the 7600x you can use ddr4 that costs half the price and is faster in all respects if the 13 600k were just a six core CPU it would still be worth considering for its higher gaming performance but the 7600x would be a strong Contender for future possible upgrades it after all does have a Zen 5 future and possibly a Zen 6 future in front of it whereas 13600k does not it's end of the road for LGA 1700. however it isn't just a six core CPU it's a six core CPU with an eight core low power CPU glued on for free those extra cores mean that you won't need an upgrade in a year or two when the core wall hits your six core CPU hard you could just keep the 13 600k until 2025 or 2026 and build a new pc then the whole upgrade argument makes total sense if you can buy a cheap ryzen 5 now installed on a modest motherboard install some cheap RAM and then buy Next Generation ryzen but there is nothing whatsoever cheap about the am5 platform today for super premium users a ryzen 9 7950x is a solid choice but that's due to the high platform costs speaking of super premium users the I9 13900k with 24 cores exists watch our video on that when it comes out it will be linked in the video description below the i7 13700k with 16 cores exists however I'm of the opinion that you either go budget with the 14 Core I5 or you go super premium with the 24 core I9 the middle just costs more for a minor Improvement the ryzen 9 7900x falls apart for the same reason you're okay with 550 dollars for just your CPU but 700 scares you off sadly there is no reasonable Zen for cheap option so the 13600k wins here by knockout the I5 13600k easily wins our editor's choice award for being a True Tech deal we are happy to recommend it without reservation to the middle 80 percent of PC Builders who want really great performance and a really nice machine without having to go super premium if you plan to use an RTX 3080 or 6800 XT or you plan to upgrade to an RTX 4070 or an RX 7800 XT when those come out then the I5 13600k is your new best friend RTX 4090 buyers should run not walk straight to the I9 13900k do not pass go do not save 200 it is worth it for that level of PC build it's just not right for everyone given how expensive that PC becomes overall here is the 10 game average chart showing all 10 games tested the I5 13600k wins this outright having higher average higher one percent lows and higher zero one percent lows overall versus the 7600x the difference isn't dramatic it's eight percent faster in the average however this isn't really about frame rates I would encourage you all to re-watch the sections with recorded footage it's the CPU usage number that really counts the lower the percentage the more reserved power each CPU has for multitasking or future games coming out over the next few years if you would like a firm specific recommendation on the foundation of a PC build I personally would order the I5 13600 KF for 309 dollars the gigabyte aurus Elite ax ddr4 board for 199 dollars this 32 gigabyte ddr4 30 600 Ram kit for 85 dollars and either a scythe fuma 2 air cooler or a Cooler Master 280 millimeter liquid cooler for around seventy dollars your choice the total cost of six hundred and seventy dollars buys you a premium platform it'll give you a great experience that should easily last three to four years for upcoming games while providing Superior performance for today's games links to all of this will be in the video description below thank you all so much for watching to the very end two gold stars for all of you still here like comment subscribe and do all the things you can follow me on Twitter Down Below in the video description links to Amazon Newegg eBay and now B H Photo as well are included in the video description below those are affiliate links they support the channel at no extra cost to you and if you use those we get a small commission and it helps us continue bringing you awesome content like this I really have to say the 13600k was impressive all the scripted comments and charts and numbers aside holy smokes an i5 14 cores 300 beats Zen 4 in basically everything the few few Corner cases where maybe this would be a tiny bit faster or few and far between this thing is awesome temperatures are fine power consumption is fine it's a drop in uh if you have an existing 12 600k some of the performance jumps were 30 percent over 12 600k if you have a 12 600k sell your CPU for 200 bucks on eBay buy this for 300 boom up to 30 percent more performance for a hundred dollar upgrade cost that's a deal plus you have the extra Reserve performance of the additional cores for the future that's a no-brainer I love this thing Intel really hit this out of the park now 3D chips are coming next year from AMD we will test those we did not test the 5800 X 3D but when the new ones come we will test those in they may very well take the performance crown back from Intel and if so more power to AMD the the beneficiary here is US the people who win is us so whether you buy AMD or whether you buy Intel we all win and winning is kind of all of the battle when it comes to spending your money on a computer now we know and knowing is half the battle ewin racing has a wide selection of chairs to fit all shapes and sizes of Gamers ranging from 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here between is I feel like I have cotton balls in my throat um is that your phone yes and it's making noise because it does that and it shouldn't be doing that yeah no it doesn't it would be broken but it needs to me not do that did you turn the did you mute it yeah okay filming a video part eight take one percent faster they both have 6B cores so those e chords must magically be doing nothing there huh that advice still holds true here despite these results the 12 the 13th the 12 having said that allow me to give you a minor spoiler review from our I9 13900k 1300 shut up when 13th gen meteorite launches with 24 e-cors I thought you said uh when 13th gen meteorly launches I thought I said 14th gen did I say 1310 editing videos would be more beneficial than benchmarking we'll have to get many deals in Princess Peach to edit videos so that you can I mean to benchmarks you can edit videos or I'll get them to Bent to edit videos that way you can Benchmark for the rest of your life and they get paid the big bucks sure I will I will have a large dollar bill printed at 50 times normal size for you that'll be the big bucks or the big buck but it's not even plural I'll have two of them made [Music] thank you [Music]

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Published: Thu Oct 20 2022

Reddit Comments

[u/bisufan]

Amd needed to make the r5 8 core, r7 10/12 core and r9 16+ cores. With a platform jump and the extra costs, how they thought having a r5 6 core 6 years after the first time is beyond me...

[u/Hellascrupman]

Intel doing their best to lower Zen 4 prices . Hurray for competition.

[u/amit1234455]

Amd is way overpriced.

[u/zgmk2]

Amd needs to wake tf up

[u/Obscure19]

13600K looks like the CPU to get for a gaming build.

[u/_adam_p]

Wow... The 7600x is dead at these prices.

[u/hemi_srt]

Lol 7600X and 7700X are now completely and utterly dead in the water. Those ridiculous Mobo prices really fucked amd's plans.

I do not see a single reason to get the 7600X right now over competition

[u/pittguy578]

Absolutely AMD needs to lower prices for both the 7600’and 7700. 13600 is superior to both

[u/dadmou5]

Optimum Tech's video shows the 13600K beating even the 7700X in many tests.