is someone that I've had on the school of greatness it was one of the top episodes I've ever done in 11 years over 1700 interviews and episodes I've had some of the greatest sports stars billionaires thought leaders and individuals on the show but people always keep coming back to this one individual someone who has lived a legendary status style of Life someone who has an undeniable mindset and someone who inspires millions of people around the world so we're going to bring him up let's bring it up for a big Applause for the one and only David D [Music] [Music] one more time it up yeah give that [ __ ] fing e she going in here come [Applause] on I know it's late I know it's late but I don't want to have some good [ __ ] Crow let's [Applause] go D before you sit down I think people need to see at least like five or 10 push-ups can you do a few I know you're I know you got like broken legs right now pushup just so you all know I have both my legs broken 10 days ago I'm not [ __ ] playing but [ __ ] it let's count it out 1 2 3 4 [Applause] 6 come on baby go go Bab come [Applause] on let's go baby who's going to car the boats yes all good all right let's get it going all right let's give him a second to give his breath so two broken legs yeah so tell me the story I was born really twisted it up so everybody says oh you weighing so [ __ ] much you know you you broke your body no I had a choice at 19 years old so when I was 19 I went to the doctor in front the military and he says your body is so Twisted you shouldn't even be getting in the military you got two options that's right you got two options to either sit back get Des jum job or suffer a lot of pain with the body you have and deal with a lot of injuries I chose option to wow so so how do you I mean so the broken legs are basically now on 49 and they're trying to reset ah my body they broke them they broke them holy [ __ ] so I have a plate so this is sorry about the ashiness and [ __ ] wow so went in broke the leg put plates and screws put different kind of Hardware in both sides so that's on both sides they had to go in realign the bones Reign the Bones from the hip all the way down and this was intentional yeah wow man this is crazy yeah stay hard up in this you know stay hard I want to ask you that a lot of people try to put you in a box they try to say who they think you are they try to say things online a lot of people build you up some people try to tear you down right I think you have a love hate with social media because it inspires millions of people but you hate to be on there at the same time right and I think a lot of people think they know who you are cuz they've seen a lot of interviews now and seen your content but to set the context straight who is David Goggins when you look in the mirror who are you who do you identify the born David gokin the guy that God made the born David gokin is a very insecure lazy vulnerable lying afraid abused mistreated bullied kid the guy that David gagas wanted to be was not that so what people see is a war a warrior a war a war a war going on with who I was made and who I want to be so I can understand why people don't like me or confused because what you're witnessing on a daily basis is a man fighting with all his might to be someone that he was not supposed to be like I was born with jacked up genetics learn disabilities all kind of stuff that I shouldn't be up here right now so when you are constantly fighting yourself it doesn't look pretty it comes with a lot of cuss words it comes with a lot of bad days it comes with a lot of reality checks it comes a lot of look in the mirror and calling yourself out because you're trying to change the exact person that you're not so yeah that's so now the person the end of the day just I work for hard to level the plane and Lev the plane for for everybody in the same and that's what it is man I I heard you talk about you said this in interviews you just said it now that you were you were 300 plus pounds at one point you you lied a lot you were very insecure learning challenges all these different things stacked against you didn't have good role model you got to start trying to and when you bring the monist out you look at it like oh my God man you just it's a daunting task that's vulnerability it's looking that dir you know that that dirty mirror in the morning time and saying okay this is who I'm not but this is who I lied about being and so people say oh you're not vable I'm who [ __ ] talking to cuz my whole life is all about vulnerability and not caring what others think about me cuz in that caring for other people they think about me that's when you go back to line that's when going back to covering up you the are so you got let it all out there is it's a ugly thing I've heard you talk about greatness a lot uh in different interviews you been on my show we talked about school of greatness a week ago I got to interview Canelo one of the greatest sponsors of all time and Tom Brady lots of fans all right and I just interv Tom Brady last weekend one of the greatest football players of all time and both of those guys have a very similar way of thinking I wouldn't say the same way of thinking as you but they are Relentless and their mindset of becoming better every day right I don't think anyone can out top you I know they break through our legs intentionally to get better but they have a Relentless mindset to get better and be at the top of the game after 20 plus years each of those guys and you've been at this for I guess probably 30 years now you're 1923 of having that range where you started to turn the switch on and said I'm going to Chisel away this lazy fat mentality mentally and literally and transform into greatness for what you're capable of being for what God created you to be right how did that switch turned on how old were you when he was like was it a day before and after that you never fell back at the end or did it take couple months going forward a month back you finally got your grou one was a switch and without having any coaches any mentors any positive male leaders lifting you up out of this hole how did you do it yourself well the thing about it is that there was no switch and a lot of us think there's some switch that this turns on some people are born with greatness in them they have this family and they had the blood of this greatness I had the blood of pimps and losers so there was no greatness blood in me and so but what all of us have so the shut it down is we have a couple of voices in our head and one voice is telling you you're good there's another voice that is telling you it's the haunting voice of home that says we can be a lot better and I heard that voice every single day but what I did with that voice was I knew on that side of my head with that hard voice saying be better there was a list over there of the work that was going to be that was going to take me to get there a list a list a list of like getting up early doing this doing that die looking good self-esteem you got to build that like a lot of parents try to build that by telling them you have a voice inside your head and it's the most important conversation you ever have in your life is for yourself and that voice is telling you matter how what people say you know exactly who you are so I trying to now listen to this voice build that up cuz on once you get self-esteem built up the rest kind of comes easy but most of us don't have any priv self no self-esteem we don't have any Pride self pride all the s are gone so that list over here was we have to build oursel up because we know that we are a born loser how long did that take you to build that up to where you felt comfortable enough that you Believes In Yourself 24 years old at 24 years old I listen to that voice for that long and then a lot of people know the story but I was literally just being haunted so bad I was 300 lb gain a lot of weight and I was in The Crossroads and when you're a man a person someone that wants to succeed doesn't matter if you're man or woman it eats at me so bad that I was going to do anything so I literally bet on myself for everything on David go and I took all the rough edges and what happened was I created a masterpiece I slowly listened to myself by slowly working on myself by slowly getting rid of all the all the fluff and The Fringe and the [ __ ] is it okay man what do you want to be cuz for the longest time I looked at people so he's a cool guy he plays basketball I want to play basketball you know who the [ __ ] is David Gods what do you want to be how does that look and I started working on myself versus working on where's the cool group so 24 so that's 25 years ago yeah 25 years of building this up was there a moment did how long did it take for you to fully believe in the mission you were on of building a doets and not worrying about what others were doing but going after what you wanted was it the first year or two we still doing it now 25 years later it's not permanent none of this shit's permanent that's why was years old and I'm still screaming and yelling and say stay hard and [ __ ] who's the P I'm not motivated these [ __ ] you may hear me you may get something from it every morning I wake up I wake up to a 300 lb lazy beat down the prate God that I have to say to myself all right man we got to start building that mental armor so every morning that process begins I start to armor my mind cace my mind that's why every morning I start off with winds winds winds what does that look like what I realized in life is that the second Pi for a business a life a wife a husband kids responsibilities what it comes to that phone and that computer is losses when you pick it up not always yeah I'm not saying always but there's a lot of bad news that comes through when you're in business when you're trying to work hard when you're grinding when you're not the boss of your life that's someone running it and allow of us have this situation right now you have a lot of losses cuz you're doing someone else's [ __ ] you're reactive that's right always reactive so for me I found this out I need to wake up with a bunch of wins and I can give myself these wins I work out my house is clean my diet is good my clothes are laid out I shave my head I shave my face I do all these little things that may not make sense to most people but I'm winning self-respect to you exactly so I'm starting to armor my mind so the thing I pick that phone up I go to work I they get a Heche in my [ __ ] face but guess what I got 25 wins already I got one lost so when I go to bed at night I make sure that I go to bed in the black not the [ __ ] red so I'm always winning and that starts off with you when you get contr you win so that's how I live my life I always I was always a person that had gr self-esteem no one's going to give me that [ __ ] Bro oh my God I take days off if I take days off this fails I'm not working out for some [ __ ] great sixpack or some great body I'm working out for this [ __ ] di here because when you look in the mirror and you see something you need to make sure that what you see and what your mind sees it all [ __ ] correlates it's not like I'm a bad dude but I'm we of [ __ ] P and S ready not so I like to make everything for late and make sense I mean lot of people get false rewards today right they they think that they're actually doing the work they're getting a false reward when they don't do it and they're getting rewarded anyway how much of that insecure old self still is in you today or still shows up inside of you like you said when you wake up you still think about paying 300 lb you don't want to go back there but is it a consistent thing or is it just once in a while there's triggers um like for instance every time up on stage to speak every podcast I have to go into a room and usually be by myself cuz growing up I started little B I had white splashes on my skin pass sever upon I was a stressed out [ __ ] kid every time I get in front of the audience I look on the audience and it's like oh [ __ ] I remember when I was in elementary school and I had one line and I stuttered and I walked off stage and then it finish the [ __ ] line so every time I come up on stage now that comes with me but if I stayed back in that room and didn't attack all these many problems I have what happens if you stay the same there's one thing in life either you're getting better or you're getting worse you're not staying the [ __ ] s so if I stay back in that room I'm getting worse that's why every day I'm trying to attack myself I'm literally going to war with myself every single day every single thing I do had so many problems the weak self yes the old self the old the lazy self that's right stop it up with that so I think people really love to try to understand the way people think and I think because you're such a oneofone human being you stand alone in so many ways and you're so public even though I know you don't like social media you don't want anyone to do a documentary on you but I think people come here to watch you and I and you being backstage I saw you before you came into the room and then you went to your room to kind of prepare right can you shed some light on what that process is like for you when you're back in the room alone what's going through your mind what's the is there visualization is there meditation is it just saying stay hard to your younger self like what's the process look like being so it's the building process and so what happens back in that room is I start to I put my head down and I'm actually go back in that room so I'm not looking at you right now cuz now I'm back in the room so everything I do I am trying to that's why I like to be like when I came out to a dead crowd that's why most people are not successful because this is what life really is they don't know you this is how this little bra is quiet and when it gets quiet you have time to think when you have time to think you your thoughts are not in a prar compartmentalized manner they're not positive they're not positive so for me when I come into an area I know that there's a chance I may be speaking to four 5 6 7 8,000 people it may be a de crap it is my responsibility to make sure that when I come on stage I have enough [ __ ] energy for 8,000 [ __ ] so if I come out and I have lazy unenergized demotivated my boss has me here type of people in the crowd I got to make sure I wake your [ __ ] minds up just enough cuz it might be one myself [Applause] let's go what's what's the thing let's imagine 13-year-old God okay what's the thing you wish if you would have come to an event like this which I'm sure no one got you into events like this or put you in a positive state but let's just say how pathetically you're in the front row at an event like this you're right 14 15 and you're in a messed up State you don't know who you are you're trying to be friends with everyone you're trying to please people like I was like that too most of us are yeah what's the one thing you wish you heard as a teenager that could have woken you up it's funny you say that man the one thing I always have was Clarity you had that I had Clarity I didn't have anything else but that and when I was for 15 years old I had an opportunity to go to a camp it's called pjc I was a civil air patol there was this PA Rescue Me Air Force guy jump out of planes they save down time it's long story short I was 15 years old in in in the craft and I always felt bad for myself I was only I always the only black person in everything I thought always so you know I feel weird about that [ __ ] which is a problem you need get the [ __ ] over so I'm I'm sitting there and this guy walks out and he fell 13,000 ft to his death okayo paracho out these D came on they gave him a PR th aling open his Airway up he died twice went operating room died again he's alive today stop my best friends I sat there look him up stop Joseph G I sat fr all these [ __ ] kids didn't hear what the [ __ ] he was saying I was just like I was always looking for something to grab on to and so the piece of advice I would give myself at that age is to probably not follow to do more of what I was doing in that audience CU I was one of one there was nobody else there I heard him I listen to him I was able to focus on him and from that I was able to derive all the power from what that message was telling me so for me it would be more of gaining energy gaining knowledge gaining more Focus if it was all around me sometimes I would hear it but not apply it I'd have to hear it four or five times fail 10 times and then I die know there's a lot of Ls out there I should listen to one time I would been in so many bad situations if I've heard from Wise people that I trusted it just did what the [ __ ] they said to do worse is finding out for myself hard I'm curious I mean for those that listen to my show they know that I like to ask hypothetical questions and this just triggered a new one for me you gave some good advice to your teenage self and I know that you're constantly trying new things now today you're you're becoming a scientist you're studying for paramedics medical stuff understand the body all these different things are studying right and I grew up similar in the fact that it take me an hour to just remember one thing on a page after reading it over and over again and I know how painful it is and how tiring it is to try to study basic stuff other on medical terms and things you're going through now right if you could go 11 years in the future to 50-year-old self y what's the thing that David goggin needs to hear today from uh from 60-year-old you sorry 49 today to 60 what's the message your future self would tell your current self well right now we doing and everybody need to do this if you want to be successful in life this is one of the biggest Keys study yourself in the beginning of your life master yourself master all the things that you are not good at master your mind what triggers it what are the trip Falls what are the where are the trip wires what are the bombs that blow you what are the things that set you up master your mind so then you can start to master people because that's where it is what do you mean by Master people if you want to be successful in life in any area of this life you have to learn to masculate people what are they going through what are they dealing with what is there their they psyching right now because the only way to get into someone's mind is to master what the world is going through what are people worry more about people than you do yourself and then what happens is you start to figure out the answers to business your life success cuz most people like why am I not why am I not I'm doing this I'm doing that you doing all the right [ __ ] you don't know your [ __ ] audience you don't know your people and therefore you're going nowhere you want know why fck would you make it so big man I didn't try I was being me but I knew there's a lot of [ __ ] up people just like me out there that are tired of he and it spoken the same way like where's the realness where's the authenticity where's the vulnerability so therefore I was need I am need to a bunch of people that are looking for a different voice that says okay so you can you can cuss your ass off and that's okay okay you can be vulnerable as hell that's okay you can still be successful coming from where you came from that's okay you can tell people you lied you cheated you are a great person that's okay yeah it's [ __ ] okay so I stud people and that's where the 60y old me I'm going there now continue to know what people need and then you can give them what they so you studied yourself for the first part of your life and now you're studying others in at this stage point so you can understand and serve people better is what I'm hearing the only way to be a good servant is who the [ __ ] you Ser I've heard you talk about nothing is missing inside of you nothing's missing in your life like you have you wake up and you exert yourself to the fullest you can on a consistent basis for the last 25 plus years and the reason nothing is missing inside of you is because you keep callousing your mind and keep carrying the metaphysical metaphorical boats you keep doing breaking your leg you do whatever it takes to Chisel away the old and become the greatest version of Le yes a lot of people I'm assuming that did I say that did you just said I take such [ __ ] proud of that's the only thing I've ever what to get everything I [ __ ] have and to find more and if I'm misunderstood for that I'm happy I'm so [ __ ] happy do not understand me because that means I am in responible I've always wanted to be in when I break my legs because I know I can go somewhere else with my life and I go I have three leg rakes on purpose to rearrange and realign my body I don't have to I'm a multi-millionaire bro I can it's not money it's everything there's still more to give and so you said to me the hair in the back of my next to because I I don't give a [ __ ] if you like me like the color of my skin like how I [ __ ] talk the fact that you know that about me is all I [ __ ] care about I will to go as far as you go man that's it that's real a lot of people I feel like in life go up to 78% maybe I'm being generous right let's just call it 70% 80% maybe not even your standards is probably way less than that but people think they've got good careers maybe they've got a solid business maybe they making some money maybe they're in decent shape but not in great shape right they've got a in a relationship that's okay but it's not great they've got a couple of kids whatever it is they're living life they're doing good but most people are afraid to go for great they're good at 78% because it's comfortable what do you think it will take for people to want to Chisel away the Masterpiece inside of them and do you think people will really do it even if they know the secret because it is so hard to do you know that's why this is the best time in the world right now cuz back in the day there were a lot of men a lot of women a lot of people who wanted to exhaust themselves who wanted to go to the Grave not preserved used up they wanted to go to the Grave used up I'm not saying that go go break your legs and beat yourself I'm not saying who getting so people want to get you misunderstood cuz it makes them think he's crazy so they want to misunderstand me they they can say just shut this guy out nowadays the best time to be great because if you give somebody a million bucks [ __ ] I'm good bro you just gave me a million dollars I can this this this this and this I'm good and that's the mindset now so very few people if there 70% that million dollar right I'm good so right now there's a lot of 1 percentage and it's time to strike because it's those people looking for that 30 40 50 more per who are trying to shut that mental government off and I and I call the 40% talk all time how you have a car and a car can go it says 130 on your Dom but the factory put so it goes 91 milph we did that to our brains but Ford is not the factory of David di David gin is the [ __ ] I am the factory so I have to put these self imposed Governors on my brain like we all have so if you want to go further you have to learn why does this Governor play on every time it's 4:00 in the morning I got to get up why this govern kick on when need to St to be a lawyer a doctor a dentist why does Governor kick on every time I get to the last set of my pull-ups I just don't want to do it so I go home why does Governor come on when my kids need me to do this or my family needs this you got to learn how to turn the government off because you are the factor so if you don't turn off it's because you just don't want to study yourself you don't want to learn and master your own mind there's a pain threshold that a lot of people have and when they hit it they don't want to go past it right no it's done is there any way to be truly great in your life I'm not talking have a billion dollars but be the best you can be and the most potential you have and actually going beyond that is there any way to be great for yourself without pain and suffering no no and I'm not talking about physical everybody wants to put me in this physical [ __ ] box I spend 2 hours a day working out I spend seven to8 hours a day studying the workout is easy the workouts easy but I don't go on Instagram with a big ass [ __ ] 2,000 page book it's not going to motivate me any funing people so that's the thing about it man to grow you must suffer it's the worst process to work but there is no growth if you sit back all these [ __ ] life hats that's why a lot of people are famous and popular today because there's a lot of life hacks that people buy into to to make themselves better once again it's not permanent while my just not permanent I know every day I'm going to be the guy that I want to be you don't know you son you don't know me son I encounter the bad day for godness I know every single day the good godness is going to go to bed at night cuz this isn't a hat this wasn't a 30-day program this was a lifelong program like I always say I'm not training for a race I'm training for [ __ ] life so that is it that's on a on a day-to-day average over a year you talk about overcoming the the negative voice the voice inside of you most of your life on a day-to-day average over a year how much time does the N try to creep in and say don't do the last St H eat that ah sleep a little longer ah you know just don't work today don't study today right does it happen a lot or you just pushed it so far away that when it comes it just goes right back to where it's it happens when any pain comes up I'm a human being whenever I'm in Penny whenever I'm those last few miles of 100 300 M race when I'm in the last several hours of doing 8,000 [ __ ] pull-ups in 24 hours when I'm in the last I'm anywhere My Mind Is Telling Me dude what the [ __ ] are you doing but this is the one thing that I did the voice that I want to be and created it beats that other voice down so quickly really the other voice knows I'm just here just to maybe that I know you're [ __ ] not going to do when I said interesting so it tries and it tries you slap it back down it's really quick what is that process look like if you could tell the story of how that is in your mind what does the negative voice say and then what does the badass Noggin say it changes every year know 24 300 lb eating a to me chocolate donuts and chocolate milshake as a snack between my [ __ ] 8,000 calorie breakfast is saying this is a good life bro you're fat enjoy this man good food you don't care no by thans [ __ ] sixpack ass [ __ ] all that this is good so that voice is very different than the voice now at almost 50 years old of course now is saying is you've accomplished everything you ever want to accomplish in your life you have all the money you ever want in your life family with success you're proud of yourself that's a really [ __ ] up voice because now it's like why are you doing enjoy everything enjoy back then we know why you did cuz you wanted to get somewhere and all I want to do it was like I sat back at 24 say I'm going to write a couple books I going be I going be no I even know I just want to be better I want to be proud of myself so now when that voice comes to me now what keeps me going now is I've never been here for myself that's why I'm such a Hermit I'm such an introvert I'm so misunderstood I believe in God no matter how much I [ __ ] cuss I don't say God F I believe in the higher power and I believe I was here for people to learn from those who want to learn from me that you can be in the worst position of your life possible have the worst brain the worst family the worst anything possible the worst Health but you're breathing so you still a shot you got a chance so I don't look at anything more oh I'm going to enjoy my life this isn't my life to enjoy I believe I am a student and I need to be teaching people whatever I know to give back to those who may not know what I do know and those who want to listen so that is that the voice that slaps down the negative voice the chust of people and say you've made it you worked for 25 years you've made it you're a multi-millionaire you've got all the success you can show up and do whatever you want now like is it is it more no you got to keep serving and it's not my life to enjoy the voice is what did you make the voice is what did you really make if you're not living for all this [ __ ] you are living To Be A Millionaire and this and that what you really accomplish you have an accomplish need accomplish you help out as many people as you can help out actually know you accomplish something so that voice now okay man you still got a job you still breathing you still got to go out here you still got to help people out so that's what it is we've got a couple of final minutes until we wrap things up but I'm just curious I don't think people think think you have a weakness do you think you have a weakness if so what is the biggest weakness for you today my biggest weakness I have so many of Y TR like it's just myself like like I said you're saying man every day you wake up I had a fifth grade I was in a fifth grade reading Lev in junior high school like laziness that's why I'm so crazy about discipline now cuz my biggest sweetness was being lazy and it's so funny how many people they think that what was given to them from birth is what they have to work with this is what they [ __ ] wrong man you have the ability to outwork and to out so many [ __ ] things in this world that is why I cuss so much I don't want to cuss a lot but for what my life is and what how I push it this is just what comes out of you when I was when I was brought up and I had a hard life I can't explain my life to you like hey man it was bad I'm not doing to Justice if I put some fs and MFS in there somewhere that's how it felt that's the dark Del so that is those are the things that you were always struggle with man you always struggle with the things that you had trouble with when you were growing up cuz most of us never atted we never faced it can anyone resonate with that anyone resonate with that we've got to we've got to wrap things up and I want to before we do I want to I want David and I to stand up and I want David to Le you all with three final things and they have been here and heard 20 plus amazing speakers and connected with other people today but if you again if there's one person that needs to hear a specific message today and you can leave them with three final things I'd love for us to stand up and let you finish off with these three final messages if you guys want to stand up and bring the energy one more time before he [Applause] finishes all right so thank you for the energy thanks for not to hear me speak um a lot of us in here are afraid to misunderstood do not thank you sir do not be afraid and misunderstood a lot of times in life you're are going to be tied you're going to be beaten down you're not going to want to do what you have to do to get to where you want to go how many in here have goals that they have not met raise your hand how many here want to be Rich As [ __ ] how many here want to have a great family how many here want to reach greatness how many here want to look good would it be the best sa of life okay we have one party [ __ ] word little s little friend if you want all this in your life you going to become successful as you can you will all those goals from money to success to great family to being smart great house Great Cars guess what you have to do you got to stay hard but you got do [Music] this don't stop tired stop from done [Applause]