Cybertopia - Dreams of Silicon Valley - Docu - 2015

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The rest of the video is quite interesting as well if you have more than the 2-3 minutes to watch beyond where bitcoin is mentioned.

👍︎︎ 4 👤︎︎ u/cpgilliard78 📅︎︎ Jun 26 2015 🗫︎ replies

watching him dancing in front of his Tesla was priceless! /u/changetip /u/targetpro $0.33

👍︎︎ 3 👤︎︎ u/homad 📅︎︎ Jun 26 2015 🗫︎ replies

Holy amazing opportunity, Batman!

👍︎︎ 2 👤︎︎ u/spkrdt 📅︎︎ Jun 26 2015 🗫︎ replies

that song and dance routine @11:30

I never knew Mr. Risk Taker (Tim) had such moves. These people (you know what I'm talking about) tend to look like robots until they become a bit more animated.

👍︎︎ 2 👤︎︎ u/Bitcoinopoly 📅︎︎ Jun 27 2015 🗫︎ replies

interesting video

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do you ever get the sense that we're living in a chaotic society which seems to be going in every direction at once led by politicians who seem to pride themselves on their lack of long-term vision there is a place in this world where people do have vision and where they are overflowing with ideas for shaping our society far more efficiently and virtually who wouldn't want to live there technology is the vehicle for how we should be looking to to escape and move beyond beyond politics as we find it today a society directed by technology where terrorism red tape and banks are things of the past that place is Silicon Valley populated by the programmers entrepreneurs and venture capitalists who shape a digital future I don't think technology is intrinsically good I do think that in our world opposition to technology is intrinsically evil what does this ideal society look like this society which we might call the cloud or after the shape of Apple's future head office the circle this is what you can expect we think that the only having 193 countries for seven billion people is a very not much choice there I have more choice in soda than I have in government I think politics are a mistake we are the future we can see the future you know the world's already put together we can see how it's put together and you can't you're still promoting that 19th century weird bureaucratic governance thing we're from the future we're from California this is backlight welcome to your frictionless future backelite traveled to the west coast of the united states the place which seems increasingly since the 1990s to have become the center of power the power inherent in the entrepreneurship of the startups the brains of the programmers and the resources of the venture capitalists always looking for new industries to disrupt who are these cyber optimists what does their utopia look like and who will be part of it in the 1990s serial entrepreneur Kevin O'Connor was one of the first to come up with an idea for making money out of the Internet his company double-click was finally sold to Google for 3 billion dollars this is the practice surfing O'Connor could have retired to a tropical island but he couldn't resist the temptation of entrepreneurship break ankles so this is engineering generally what I've always looked for in life is what we call smart athletes so someone that's got a high IQ and then the other one is athlete athletes a bit of a metaphor but we're looking for people they're super competitive people that don't people that that you know had the discipline of practice and working on a team and no hates losing prefers winning a lot more than um prefer losing the other thing I love is they haven't had the creativity beat out of them and they they don't know what they're not supposed to do so sometimes they do stupid stuff but sometimes they do brilliant breakthrough things because you know they haven't been taught what not to do everyone here's an owner so everyone is you know an equity owner in the company so they share on the upside as well as the risk they want to learn how to build a business and someday they want to go build their own business so that's a that's a big attraction O'Connor recently set up find the best an online comparison website which compares all products businesses and government services by offering full transparency he hopes to expose the existing power structures what we do and find the best is we expose you know we tell people how everything is relates to everything else we're big huge believers in transparency people don't like exposure you didn't have that before now you can research people you can find out okay you know where did they work who did they who are they associated with who's really behind these movements we publish a lot of information on the federal government all their contracts we publish pension information on salaries for individuals that work in government we expose for financial advisors did they pass their financial tests what was the work history I mean things that were traditionally hidden from individuals we now how exposed was in the right bird but we we give them the information so they can make the best informed decision so that's almost a political initiative it's also a capitalistic right I mean capitalism is not about I mean to me capitalism is is that there is no one perfect product for everybody to be one product would be like Soviet Union you know but it is that helping people find what's best for them and exposing bad products I mean bad products and bad companies should die you know that's why capitalism works good companies a good product should thrive so yeah it's a little bit of political and it's difficult for me to separate politics and economics the Internet is this biggest free-market experiment where a wife remarked experiment has gone on that involves both politics and information and commerce and ran kind of broke the size of society down in two parts there's the makers people that are actually creating and producing and and then there's the takers the rent seekers the people that are taking things that aren't theirs so that would be sort of the trial lawyers government oftentimes Wall Street you know people that are that are simply extracting at all they're not creating they're not producing or creating any value within the within the within society so ya know it's definitely happening happening so are your positive in society moving in the right direction no I'm not positive about it I think we're I mean in terms of I think we're I think personally like the world or definitely United States is heading towards the Road to Serfdom the society that Hayek and and ran sort of predicted which is we become dependent on government all everything flows of the government they kind of determine who who the winners are gonna be as opposed to a free-market a capitalist market where winners and winners win because they're the best and losers lose because they don't produce value right now here in the u.s. more than half of our GDP is spent by the government a hundred years ago is 8 percent now it's more than half and and I don't believe that the government is creating more than half of progress I don't think that government is creating more than half of our economic value Tim Draper is one of Silicon Valley's most famous venture capitalists he was an early investor in companies such as Skype the Chinese search engine Baidu and electric car builders Tesla with an estimated capital of a billion dollars he is a force to be reckoned with when it comes to which startups are to be given a chance what kind of companies as a venture capitalist do you invest in I look for industries that are getting very fat and lazy and bureaucratic and I'm looking for startups that are approaching those industries where where people are not getting customers are not kind of getting the kind of service and they're paying too high a price for this service and so today those industries are banking education medicine and government ok in finance there are great technologies now there's Bitcoin there are smart contracts there's an ecosystem being build around Bitcoin so Wall Street must be a friend of you I believe that Wall Street is fighting this tooth and nail trying to make sure that Bitcoin doesn't happen but it's too late the genies out of the bottle things are going great and people will use Bitcoin for many many different things and then in education I think there's some amazing education opportunities the way education is done is going to be completely transformed over the five or ten years and we're leading the charge there at Draper University of heroes when West Coast companies go to New York or Matt or or Washington or to Europe they promote themselves as representatives of an entirely new way of being and if you want to regulate them while you're just part of that old world why don't you get with the program you know the we are the future we can see the future you know the world's already put together we can see how it's put together and you can't you're still promoting that 19th century weird bureaucratic governance thing we're from the future we're from California so what exactly is don't drag the university so Draper University of heroes is is a school dedicated to students that are 18 to 28 years old that wanna start a company create a revolution build a new industry do something really extraordinary and it's only a six-week University during that period we teach them things like future rather than history they learn science fiction Bitcoin and predictive analytics and and forecasting and then we have survival training and they go through both urban and rural survival training the urban survival training is gives them challenges like okay you've got four hours come back with a job offer on paper and some of them have you know they get a job offer sweeping up a gay bar and some of them get job offer at Twitter or whatever we have a very odd application process our application is it says sing me a song make me a movie draw me a picture write me a poem and then it says why were you put on this earth this is Silicon Valley viewed from the only higher point from miles around a landfill adjacent to the Googleplex it's hard to imagine that this is one of the world's most powerful regions but it's the place that may hold even more knowledge power and wealth than Washington Wall Street or Brussels the architecture of Silicon Valley is like a Lego set if you can think of it as a kind of snap to grid architecture it's very bland it's very banal but it's very easy to reconfigure as you need it it has to be banal if it's if it's idiosyncratic if it's special it's harder to change imagine taking Paris and putting a bunch of hard-working sweaty coders in those beautiful 19th century buildings it's antithetical right there you know but you can you know but you can do that kind of coding in these little boxes who cares about the little boxes could you describe when you're coding as precise as possible for people who don't code what kind of state you feeling so I think when you really get in the thick of it you get into what's called flow State and the world around you kind of disappears and you're just holding in your head the different components of the system that you're working with because most of the time there'll be a lot of different components that all fit together in this way and this might be a bunch of different libraries that you're going in and bringing in and you're thinking of how to put them together it's you might have you know some networking code over here you might have a database that's over here you might have some functionality that that's over here you might have some graphic graphical output that's over here and you're thinking of how it all threads together and someone intuitively it takes a little bit of time even if you've recently been working with it to load that all up into your head into and to put it together it's almost like if you're putting together like Legos in your head right and so you have all the LEGO pieces just so and then what you're trying to do in code is actually fill that in right inst is to actually codify the relationships that exist there so something that's also unintuitive is if somebody interrupts you like let's say phone call comes in all the Legos fall to the floor not only is David Weekley helping to build our digital society he is also a hacker and as product manager for Google is currently rolling out the Internet in Africa I had always been looking for entrepreneurial nerds and I found an entire geography populated by them so this has been home for me since then I've enjoyed traveling the world but every time I come back I have this warm sense that I'm returning home yes yes okay and how could you describe this sort of DNA of Silicon Valley that you were attracted so much I think it's just people who are very curious and love building things to find out and they're willing to work very hard to prove the world wrong to try and bring something new into and exist into existence it's really just that that urge to to create that suffuses the valley and I think the people who are the most successful here are not folks who come to make money they're folks who come to really build and they can't help but build and they want to be surrounded by and encouraged by others who also love building and oftentimes what ends up happening almost as an accident or a byproduct of that is that tremendous amounts of value get created so a lot of these people end up millionaires or end up billionaires but if you ask what drives them if you ask what motivated them to go and create it was just that they couldn't help but create guys have a cell phone I can I think in the technical world and in the valley and in the world of incredibly wealthy entrepreneurs and again I think we shouldn't underestimate how much wealth is in play here Elon Musk is wealthy the way that Singapore is wealthy the way that Hong Kong's oh he's wealthy the way whole states are wealthy that's it if you have that much power you have the ability to imagine possibilities that the rest of us can dream about on our couch but you can actually make them happen and so I think there's an aspect in which a technical person given almost unlimited wealth and the habit of success can begin to imagine changing the world in these new ways technology is the vehicle for how we should be looking to to escape and move beyond beyond politics as we find it today Peter field is one of the founders of PayPal and he has made his fortune as an angel investor in facebook Thiel is not afraid of sharing his views he is one of Silicon Valley's most outspoken cyber utopias been a libertarian Pro free market for you know as long as I can remember but my thinking about how that intersects with the political system has changed a lot over the years technology is this incredible alternative to politics and and you there are a number of different technologies we can outline but the task in this world where politics has become so broken and so dysfunctional is to find a way to escape from it it's not a way to fix it it is a way to escape I've forgotten which which entrepreneur it was who said that if you don't understand Burning Man you don't understand Silicon Valley but might have been Peter Thiel I don't remember who might have been here's the suite I don't know if Peter Thiel himself goes but certainly people with his beliefs go sure oh yeah there's a lot of right-wing folks out there wearing you know pink bunny fur and dancing in the heat Burning Man is an annual festival began in 1986 started small now as many as 45,000 people go out into the desert in Black Rock City Nevada it's really an empty harsh hot desert and they build a temporary City and they live together for a week you have to bring everything that you need on the desert you can't buy anything out there except coffee and ice it's a it's a money free environment it's meant to be a space of personal expression personal discovery and collaborative community that vision is enormous ly appealing it's also I would argue part of the culture of a place like Google in a place like Google a lot of where the engineering works is that engineers need to know each other personally and collaborate to generate new products new projects new products they need to work intensely together but they need to find each other partly on the basis of their kind of personal style and their and their individual skill Burning Man is a place to rehearse that process at Burning Man you put on a costume you move individually you move flexibly through the space you recognize each other and then you form intensely highly skilled production teams to make high-tech art when they're out on the playa they are rehearsing the hyper individualized but also collectively productive vision of Google engineering but in a kind of religious sense I actually think that Burning Man is to contemporary new media production what the Protestant church was in Max Weber era to the industrial world you know in the industrial era the Protestant church is a place where you go the executives sit in the front the workers sit in the back now you go to Burning Man everybody's a worker everybody's an entrepreneur everybody's hustling everybody is working on themselves and their business at the same time it's a place to rehearse the values on which the valley depends it's Burning Man this is Burning Man yeah so we covered Burning Man in our search for the origins of the ideological intentions of Silicon Valley we visit Louie Rosetta founder of Wired magazine we're going to niche economies and niche warfare it's like 20 years ago right that's exactly what we've gone to rich economies in this war in San Francisco start to unleash Laden attacks with Wyatt's douchebag bars from the digital at a future 20 years ago we visited the editorial office of the then newly founded wire magazine in San Francisco people like Stewart Brand and Kevin Kelly identified the pioneers of the digital revolution which had just begun at the time so these are artifacts from another millennium but at the time they were also dropped out of the future and the future is the one we're living in now wired was about trying to hold a mirror up to them so that they could see themselves and understand that they were really powerful and they were doing amazing things and a window up for the rest of the world to look into this community and see what they were thinking about in doing so we tried to capture that that particular moment and what those people were doing was creating new technologies with the intention of disrupting everything and they were doing them in there each in their own individual ways in the areas where they were concerned with things but the net effect was that they were causing a broad scale revolution and it was our intention to try to make sense of that and actually be active also an advocate for it ladies people where that they were I think they oh they were aware absolutely people were aware in the sense that if they came up with a new tool it was going to affect a certain thing and it was intersected in a big way Peter Thiel talks about the zero one opportunity he means that he doesn't look for zero and incremental changes or 1 to n incremental changes he looks for zero to one kind of change so it's major phase change and stuff and so all these people working in these areas were looking at zero to one kind of change where before it was the dark ages and here was light and they were gonna revolutionize education they were gonna revolutionize law they were gonna revolutionize warfare they were gonna revolutionize the justice system they were gonna revolutionize manufacturing and anywhere they were looking in any one of the areas that they were concerned about what they were doing was revolutionary they thought they were gonna have a major impact but we may never be able to comprehend it any more than a caterpillar can comprehend turning into a butterfly and that was Danny Hillis Danny Hillis was the guy who invented the first supercomputer parallel processing supercomputer at Thinking Machines it circulated everywhere everyone had it on their coffee table not that many people read it and it was an emblem it was an icon of the new media world that seemed to be bubbling up around everyone and you know what it stood for from me when I read it when I actually started reading it was a fusion of libertarian economic idealism that I'd always associated with right-wing politics and countercultural communalist idealism that I had always associated with left politics and that caused me to go back to the 1960s and to see something that I had not understood it all before and I think a lot of folks had missed the counterculture of the 1960s was not just one thing it was to two very different movements it's one the new left designed to do politics to change politics the other a kind of communal movement that actually turned away from politics turned toward the home the house consumption collaboration as ways of changing the world and it was that second movement the new communal lists who actually gave birth to the Whole Earth Catalog and through the Whole Earth Catalog Wired magazine when I was young there was an amazing publication called the Whole Earth Catalog which was one of the Bible's of my generation it was created by a fellow named Stuart brand not far from here in Menlo Park and he brought it to life with his poetic touch this was in the late 60s before personal computers and desktop publishing so it was all made with typewriters scissors and Polaroid cameras it was sort of like Google and paperback for him 35 years before Google came along this is the first this is the first Whole Earth Catalog of course with the famous illustration Stuart brand humans didn't really know what the earth looked like this imagery was not a sort of staple that was available to everybody at that time that was so relatively recent in terms of being able to get that kind of imagery at all right so we just landed on the moon yeah I mean it was just a new thing so it seemed like this then would be a great symbol to use because it's showing people a new way of looking at the earth that has been made possible sense relaxation psycho-cybernetics the calculators this one's Heathkit so these were these you know do it chickens do it yourself if you think of Heathkit Stuart brand aimed it at the communes he really wanted to create a guide to tools that you would need to live well on the land as you headed back the interesting thing that he did though was he created a space for people to write into the catalogue and to recommend products that other people might not get to know and what that did was that created a map inside the catalog the commune world and then you start to see that the map of the whole Stuart and his team put out several issues of the Whole Earth Catalog and then when it had run its course they put out a final issue it was the mid-1970s and I was your age on the back cover of their final issue was a photograph of an early morning country road the kind you might find yourself hitchhiking on if you were so adventurous beneath it were the words stay hungry stay foolish it was their farewell message as they signed off stay hungry stay foolish I wish that for you I was just amazed at driving around the Google campus in the Apple campus like they don't want to become physical they don't want to show any power they don't they don't want to become public and I think this is a really important distinction like the Communist of the 1960s they don't believe that there's a general public space that they should be serving in that sense I don't think you know in the communist of the 1960s people wanted to gather together with others like themselves and build a model world they didn't want to build a model world with many many others they wanted to build a model world that would be a model for others to do in their own space you know Google Apple they want to build their world you you're welcome to build yours feel free you can be an entrepreneur the idea of being a promoting a public good in the way that we might have understood the public in earlier generations it's not there you know we want to provide complex consumer services we want people to connect to one another on a one-to-one basis we want to make Facebook we want to help people brand themselves so they can find each other we want people to engage in complex collaborative consumption great now the public well what's that you know people will take care of themselves I get the impression that the forces that will shape our society are very much rooted in Silicon Valley I think Silicon Valley has an important role to play you know I think that there's been some interesting articles of late that have talked about the emergence of consciousness right where does it come from and there's a bunch of thought here that said the immediate mean by the emergence of what kind of systems can be made conscious can can be sentient right and why is it that humans are conscious why are we sentient and what is it about the arrangement of our neurons and there's a certain school of thought that says it comes at a certain complexity level right and the fact that you have so many neurons interconnected in such a complex way a consciousness gradually emerges from that it's not even like a switches flip they where you can say like one yes this person is conscious or or zero no this person is not conscious but it's more just something that that emerges like a flower blossoming you know as as your brain becomes more complex and I take a look at how computers have gotten computer networks they've gotten more complex right and I think you start asking some interesting questions like you know is the internet sentient what happens when you search Google right and this is actually an interesting question to get into philosophically because you're typing you're human who's got a query and you're typing into your computer your query and you get back some answers and the answer is that you get back well they're from a computer right because they're from Google's algorithms but all of what you're seeing was actually put in by humans right so the actual content that you're consuming was by humans so I think the right way to look at it is not humans versus computers but instead it's this synthesized intelligence this Borg as it were yeah that is a synthesized intelligence of what computers are good at and what humans are good at working together right and that collectively together you that creature is sentient so if you were a neuron in a brain would you know that the brain was sent right if you're part of a sentient being are you aware of that being sentience there is the system of people and of computers that works together to form its own mind that is by definition smarter than us that we are participating in right now that we are already a part of this collective intelligence Silicon Valley plays a role in helping design those threads and that go between the human intelligences and the computer intelligences right so we're helping to tune it this brain we're not the brains designer it's kind of in many ways designing itself but we're building this uber species that is that is humans that is computers all together there's this whole question about the singularity which I actually think is kind of silly right when will we have a computer that's smarter than a human that can learn that is self-aware and it and my answer to that is we've already hit that point right we're already hitting the point where technology is self accelerating one of the things that's really neat about Silicon Valley when you talk to a bunch of the startups here is that many of the consumers of those startups technology are other startups right and so in some sense it does create a bit of a bubble but in another sense it's it's a little bit exciting and terrifying to realize that there's so much brain power that's here that's focused on making that brain power more highly leveraged which in turn is focused on making that brain power more highly leveraged right and this just compounding as a feedback it's a feedback loop absolutely so the kind of tools that we are able to work with today allow an individual designer or product manager or engineer to act as if they were tens of people from 10 years ago hundreds of people from 20 years ago thousands of people from 30 years ago right and so the amount of individual leverage that's out there in the system is just is just totally exploded cybernetics had come to theorize that the world was essentially a single large information system and that maybe information and information technology were themselves the tools by which we would actually be able to recognize and visualize the hippy organic collectivities there was a more mystical entity so the mystical and the technical come together there and you see that today all through Silicon Valley the hope that we can build technologies of consciousness that will transform the social world without government you know I think there's the same presumption that government itself is bankrupt not just this government but all government all politics is somehow just unfixable I think politics are a mistake they're they're the leading they're the trailing edge of society and people who go into politics do it for emotional because they have an emotional problem harkens back to vilhelm Reich talking about the mass psychology of fascism where politics is about working out your own emotional difficulties on other people there's something wrong with that I don't want to do that I know one of the people to do that to me or on society in general so I said I think in the 21st century politics have been shown to be if not bad least full of unintended consequences and so if you want to make a better world forget about electing Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton or any of these politicians but go out and do it yourself directly you can make a better world around in the areas that you have influence in in the real world that you live in if it's up to Silicon Valley we may soon be entering a new post political era but what might that cyber topia the alternative to Washington and Brussels look like I think it is only a small exaggeration to say that - you know that the government is so is so fundamentally evil that to deny on the evil nature of the government is equal to denying the existence of the devil and I think that actually I think that sort of double negative works both for people who believe in the devil and people who don't and then and then you know on the flip side on if the individual is to become sovereign you think of the most sovereign thing in the world is something like God you you basically achieving individual sovereignty means that you get to be God or you get to be as close to God as is as is possible for anybody on this planet to be but we're witnessing of courses death of prominence new society is being created around its bill for the broken pieces of today and those who people and society deliver different world I run a project called the cset Institute it was founded in 2008 by Patri Friedman and Peter teal and our vision is that we can move out to sea into international waters and build cities and on these cities we can experiment with new new forms of government it's a new form of society I can't tell you who we're talking to right now because the negotiations are delicate but we hope to have the first a deal with a host nation within the next year and try to be building the first city by the end of 2020 many of the people who are excited about see setting would consider themselves a futurist we only have in 193 countries for seven billion people is a very there's not much choice there I have more choice in soda than I have in government but if there are thousands of cities floating at sea we could find what suits our own personal needs and when we live in a world that's as diverse as we are we shouldn't all be you know forced into the same hole so Peter Thiel dreams of living on a city island outside territorial waters where the laws are written by the investors venture capitalists Tim Draper stays closer to home his suggestion would be to divide California into six smaller states one of which should be the state of Silicon Valley this is a six California's tie that and by creating six California's we're creating a competitive environment where the where the states have to compete for the citizens and the citizens can choose the states that are best for them what is in a compelling on your Silicon Valley would be here in yellow but from a distance it feels like this is called Jefferson and that's called they're from a distance that feels like the the Silicon Valley that you're sort of concentrating where all the value is being generated in this case in the current regime in the current regime that's true with the current people in government that's what we've got going on now but the wealth all six of these states will become much much wealthier with six California's if we started with six new governments there is no way we would create the government that's been created here we would be much more efficient probably much more virtual and much more electronic Estonia is really getting out front because they're not just good with Bitcoin they are digitizing their entire government and that can be a government that that transcends Geographic borders and that is really exciting because the best the best companies the best minds the best the wealthiest people are going to be mobile and they're going to move from one place to another based on how good is that government and Estonia is creating this virtual sitosterol residency of Estonia and and it's going to allow people to be a virtual resident I think that's the beginning of something well that I'm calling competitive governance where governments are going to have to compete with each other for us and suddenly a government that used to feel like they could do anything they wanted is now going to have to sell and purr and improve their service and provide a great service to their citizens where those citizens will move to another place and so I'm going to be a virtual resident of Estonia meanwhile I'll still be a citizen Silicon Valley's escapism doesn't stop at floating cities and virtual countries where could we really start from scratch serial entrepreneur and virtual reality Arthur van hoff shares his dream with the powers that be well you know personally I'm I'm a techie I want to take my camera up into space I think in virtual reality you can mimic that or you can reproduce that feeling one thing you got to realize is that people live in VR I mean I you know you what you see is not what you actually see what you see is what you imagine the world to be like the world is in your head it's not literally out there you only see color in a very small part of your vision and your hearing you hear everything but you only hear me speak right but you don't hear the background noise right so there's a lot of filtering going on and you built this this concept of the world which is your representation of the world and that that sort of ability to create a reality is is very profound in human beings we showed it to Elon Musk a while ago and and he he thought he looked at it and he he thought it was very trippy and that's was his his words trippy because what was he launching one of his SpaceX rockets no because he really want to go he wants to go to Mars yeah you know but Elon Musk and you know his SpaceX company it's amazing everybody starts from zero and everybody dreams of starting from zero and that's part of the Stuart brand vision too we are as gods well what do gods do gods start from zero gods don't take the things from the past and repurpose them they start from zero I think that if utopia ever came to be these folks might not be able to live in it because they are so Restless they are so Restless and in this sense they really are like the people who moved out across the American frontier you know as soon as they conquered one place well let's go conquer something else and I think that mindset is not conducive to an easygoing utopia you know Richard Brautigan the San Francisco poet in 1967 wrote the famous poem all watched over by machines of loving grace and that's a utopian vision a vision in which we live in the natural world but in a natural world that is monitored and cared for by invisible machinery I know that that vision animates people here in the valley you know the notion of ubiquitous commuted computing came out of that vision but could they live in that world could could Peter Thiel lie in the grass you know picking flowers while the well the clouds drifted overhead I don't think so could Mark Zuckerberg I doubt it it's just do you agree that the digital revolution is as dangerous as it is fantastic would you like to come to cyber topia to the cloud with the uber techies or would you rather stay in your old familiar nation-state with all its compromises and imperfections because how seriously should we take these techno optimists they have the knowledge the networks and the power to have real influence it's just it's just
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