Courts of Heaven | Robert Henderson | Joni Table Talk | Joni Lamb

well we all know that god is love the Bible tells us that but it also reveals that God is righteous and just do we understand what that means and what implications could that have on the way we pray well today with the help of our guests are gonna find out but first joining me around the table is my dear friend Dorothy Newton how are you very you know like I know it's been a very important part of your life yes very important you know without it nothing's possible with it all things are possible it's good that's good Rebecca Weiss how are you doing I'm doing great good and so can we tell everybody on Joanie Table Talk yes I don't know I got shy all of a sudden I'm gonna have a boy we're so excited and if you're watching this sometime later because sometimes we will replay things later and she's already had the baby boy you'll understand that anyway congratulations yeah a little Weiss is on its way yes the name continue hashtag Weiss Weiss baby wise Weiss that's right how are you I'm doing great you know a little bit about having baby voice oh love loved it yes for the head more I understand welcome thank you it's good to be here some to the tape absolutely are you feeling nervous with all these women here well have you ever felt like your prayers aren't being effective like you've suddenly hit a wall that's the reality that Robert knows all too well and he's here to share what ultimately led to his breakthrough but before we get to that Robert I want you to take us back tell us a little bit about your personal story in testimony because we always love to hear that first sure yeah well of course I grew up in a really small town Groesbeck Texas about 2,500 people but but my family was a Christian family but we were denominational by my dad in the early 70s got very very hungry for God because that was when the charismatic renewal was in process but we didn't know anything about it we're in a little town in Texas yeah so anyway he gets really hungry and he was up for three nights a week and and read the Bible as sleep one and and still maintain a full work schedule he was just so hungry and he after several weeks of doing this he told my mother he said I'm gonna find me a Pentecostal Church and my mother thought he'd gone crazy because that we had no reference for that and that's crazy that's right that's right because I mean we were in a very denominational group and and so what we didn't know was that my oldest sister which is like eighteen years older than I am she and her husband had began to go to a charismatic church and they said well if that's the way you're feeling we need to tell you what we're doing and so they invited us and we went we all ended up getting baptized the Holy Spirit in our lives changed forever and how old were you at I was 12 I was 12 so Wow that had to be like a very special time for you and it that's such an important age yes for for God to kind of redirect and open you up to some things well I mean for a 12 year old I think sometimes it's maybe more open than someone that's you know 30 or 40 something so how is it for your parents and especially like for your mom and the rest of siblings well we all we all came into the things of the Spirit my dad I remember got baptized older Spears started prophesying in services we were just enthralled with the things of the Spirit we knew nothing about it and it was like a brand new world opened up it's kind of like you got the best of both worlds though yeah because here you know you have to say so many mainline denominations they have the salvation message down intact which obviously is the most important message and then the Pentecostals a lot of times have you know they understand about the baptism the Holy Spirit that gets the spirit but really we need all of that together don't we absolutely so how did your world change after that well at 12 years old I mean when my dad started prophesying and all this kind of thing as a as a 12 year old kid I was hungry for that long story short I just I would sit in the services I didn't know the Bible you know not really at all I was 12 years old and I would prophesy portions of the pastor's sermon before he preached it and and so it was pretty well known something's going on with his kid and any we came no what did you think about that and I was amazed did you understand like you were operating one of the gist of the spirit or yeah I mean we had some good teaching and though we were course just beginning to get into some of it but we had some tea I knew it was prophecy I didn't know a whole lot about it I just was having an awareness of it and and anyway quite honestly when I would stop and think about it I would get intimidated yeah and I would start to kind of withdraw because I was thinking this is this is freaky this but then my pastor he could see the hand of God on me and so he would pull me out and he wouldn't he would say come on Robert you need to do this and he would encourage it I remember one of the first times that I mean obviously growing up in a Pentecostal church yeah you're always my mother was raised Baptist I grew up seeing you know people used with it on gifts of the Spirit and of course we know the fruits in spirit or even more important but just having a dream while we were in Montgomery Alabama about something that's gonna happen and then sharing with Marcus and then that happening the dream coming to pass you've had a lot of Jews like that when you walk with the Holy Spirit when you really give yourself to him yeah it's amazing you know what do you lead you to do I remember walking to an airport in Mexico one time yeah because I was on a smaller plane going down for missions trip this is way before I was a full-time ministry I'm walking to the airport and I look to my right I think it was and I see this man's ten years before 9/11 so you had access to all the stuff I see this man saying and the Holy Spirit leaps on the inside of me and says go pray for him and I'm thinking but I don't speak Spanish I had gone in to get water in the campaign so I just keep walking I feel that can't be God keep walking and I look back again I hear though I feel that urge and so I thought that but that can't be God so I decided okay if this is God this is well know I'll walk up to him and ask him in English what time it is and if he answers me I don't know he can speak English so I did that sure enough he answered me in perfect English and I said well I just want you to know God told me to come talk to you and he broke down and started weeping he said I have a backslidden preacher and I'm on my way to the US he said to talk to a psychiatrist because I think I'm losing my mind and I said I said all you need to do is repent jesus loves you and i pray for him right there in the airport and then had to go get on the plane but the bottom line was if you'll just pay attention to the holy spirit he'll lead you into those places well you know I was I was thinking I don't know if I've even I think I may have told Jesus I don't think I've told you to this but in one of those early times of learning to hear God's voice the most crazy thing happened to me I mean for me because y'all know I'm not prone to do crazy things but I remember I was over here and is in the Metroplex area and there was a very well-known abortion clinic and I worked out in an area at a gym that was close to it and I was leaving one day and start started getting the car in the Lord said I want you to go in there and I was just like wow I was like and I'm getting right in he's like I want you to go in there and I was like why and he's like I just want you to walk in there and just say please don't do this that's all I want you to say and so I was like okay and with fear and trepidation I go and go into the door and I see the lady over there at the desk looking at me like are you coming over here and I just stopped right there and there was only like two couples in there and I just looked at him and I said please don't do this then I got out of there I mean they both look shocked when I said it and I don't know if we saved a baby that maybe today or not ISA but I mean there are times when the Holy Spirit will take you out of your comfort zone important to be obedient in both of those stories with the man that was the backslidden preacher and then the couples in the abortion clinic those are two people about it's a lot of time God has this interview when people are at a crossroads and it's like our obedience really can help determine their outcome and so it's really important that we listen and we obey because you may never know where someone's at anything about if you hadn't intervened you know how that person because it's like we're supposed to be the hands and feet of Jesus so it's like if we don't do it who can do it that's true now okay so you have this experience your families transform your life is transformed when do you meet your lovely wife we were highschool sweethearts okay yeah we got together our junior year we dated junior senior year and got married right out of high school in 1977 so we've been married for 41 years and have six children and five grandchildren now yeah we're a love story okay so and when did you surrender to the collar ministry and did you even at that early age feel like you were called to ministry or did you come yes no from 12 years old on I felt called yeah but when I met Mary or when we got together 16 my passion for ministry kind of waned and I really didn't want to do it because I tell people this I said I thought being in ministry would cramp my style the problem was I didn't have any style I just didn't know it and so so we got married I got high school and then God really started dealing with me and I was out by this time about two years two and a half years into our marriage our first bit first child is born Ryan and he started to get your zone now but but I was going to the store to get some milk and all of a sudden without warning God comes into my car I mean what I mean was his presence come into my car and I heard it wasn't audible but it was so strong it was almost audible I heard God say the time is drawing nigh for you to do my work I knew it was God it was I was 20 years old and he said the time is drawing nigh for you to do my work and I said back to God because I knew it was him I said why now Lord because I meant I have a wife I have a child I have responsibilities of why now Lord and he said instantly because now you have to trust me and I thought well I don't have to that's what I thought I thought who's gonna make me well I didn't know who I was dealing with I'm serious within two weeks God had my attention and I was surrendered and then I was asking him to let me do what he actually wanted so we actually made a move that was spanking me it was so gracious he was so kind he was just he just wowed me with his love and and we we ended up you know surrendering because it wasn't now it wasn't just me yeah you know now it's married to it's like because what I said you know we need to do this guy knew when he spoke to me where I was supposed to be and who I was supposed to be connected to and how I supposed to be getting trained I knew all of that when that when I had that visitation and I heard the voice but there was a lot of other knowing that I had connected to it so long story short we ended up moving and getting connected and spent four years being trained went on staff and as an associate full-time associate and then four years later began became a senior pastor for the first time at 29 years old gospel church yes in Tyler Texas and and I was trained up by a man named James Walker an awesome man of God that most people wouldn't even know who he was but but he was such an 80's such a man of character and just just with a father and is a father he fathered me into the ministry and and so I got I got things like a Bible School could never give you time for Bible schools seminaries all that but it was just intense disciples rulinea was that training you know and and the Bible says despise not small beginnings because you never just go from A to Z it is a process of God getting you ready hopefully so at some point you stopped pastoring and the Lord began to speak to you about something else yes I pastored for 22 years Wow and I mean that includes associate pastor but then all the rest of it senior pastor it and we were in Waco we were in Waco Texas and of course we were talking earlier everybody used to know Waco for one thing they know it for another now they know we're chip and Joanna and so yeah we were passionately raised up a really strong church but then God spoke to me and my wife both Mary and we knew that we were supposed to hand that off which was actually a shock because this was like our baby you know it was everything in it was of us and so we began to travel I began to travel and about three years into that God started speaking to me and revealing to me the courts of heaven teaching which has propelled us into a whole you know global type ministry running all over the nations teaching people how to step into the courts of heaven and and get their prayers answered on an entirely different level I think that started with your son it did something that he was suffering with depression yes didn't know how to pray do you think people sometimes come come up short as far as maybe wanting to pray to God about things concerning their loved ones their friends that even themselves just maybe not knowing how to pray yeah I do believe that I do believe that a good heart is obviously necessary but but the wisdom and the ways of God have to be discerned as well because the Bible says that the Israelites do the acts of God but Moses knew the ways and so him knowing the ways actually helped unlock the spirit realm for the acts to manifest and so we have to know the ways of God and when you start learning how God does things and what the and by the way what the court of heaven did it gave me a completely different perspective of the way the spirit realm works because as we were talking earlier I was very battlefield minded I mean war and all this but then I began to realize wait things are judicial in the spirit world what happened was my son Adam I mean and we when we talked early dad wasn't able to go into heat he actually went through a divorce he was he was a youth pastor he and his wife for youth pastors they decided she didn't want to do that you know they were a young married couple had a little baby girl now and whenever that happened it just destroyed him I mean they just wiped him out he wasn't what he wanted he didn't he'd love her he won't wanted his family together but stop it and sometimes people can divert the will of God for a season that's right from our lives based on their choices and but that doesn't mean God won't redirect and continue to work his plan and purpose for your life but that can be a devastating thing there could be people watching right now that you've gone through a divorce and it's just throwing you off course and you think there's just no way that God could ever Youth me again there I could get back on course but that has a complete lie of the enemy it's important to understand that but but he just i guess sounds like he went into that pit of despair he did for to stew for two years and I mean in prayer I'm warring but nothing worked yeah I think worked he just got progressively worse I would talk to him and try to encourage him and tell him God wasn't through with him but he just felt worthless he felt you know abandoned at all all of it and I remember after two years going to prayer again one morning and for whatever reason that morning I heard the Lord say bring Adam to my courts and I I didn't even know if I knew how but what I didn't know was about to happen the Holy Spirit was about to just really lead me and so I I started off I said lord I bring Adam to your courts and I had enough of this awareness I said I repent in his behalf because he would see some people get in such a place they can't even do that and I tell people intercessors do for others what they can't do for themselves until they can yeah it's kinda like you can stand in proxy for someone who's cheating yeah and you're lying in the gap you stand in the gap for him God gives us they have to do their own repentance absolutely absolutely absolutely you can but but but what I did was I said I repent on behalf of Adam yeah that's his father yeah and I say Lord I repent for the lies he's believed all these kind of things that I'm asking for for those those those things that aren't true to be undone you know I just began to repent and I felt something shift and because now I'm not I'm not approaching it from a battlefield perspective I'm approaching it from a judicial and you're talking to God and I'm talking you're not addressing the devil right that's all of his into dust right yeah which which a lot of Christians are doing this danger is see absolutely absolutely and I try to warn people I tell them what I'm trying to save your life here because because we had walked through a lot of stuff and I look back and I realize a lot of it was brought on by my attacking powers of darkness I had no jurisdiction over because it's always an issue of jurisdiction exactly and and so I began to rebut and then when I got through repenting for him God spoke to me I mean I'll never forget he said no you repent and I thought what I need to repent for and he said because of the words you have spoken against Adam to his mother that in my frustration concerning where he was I would say negative things to Mary about him I just don't understand why he did this why he's here why and I would say those things and the Lord said the enemy is taking your words as his father and saying before me even his own father says this about him and was bringing an accusation it's important the words that we speak into that machine because I mean that really is I mean I've heard this teaching for now I totally agree with it on the Ten Commandments thou shalt not murder we just think that's like with the gun but it's actually talking about murdering a person's character with lies and I mean and so I mean those words go out into the atmosphere and they're there forever absolutely and so he said for me to repent so that's that's a good word for some parents watching right now that you've spoken words over your Chuy's and what they weren't there to hear it you know but you've got to speak lie yeah you like the song we sing live okay so go ahead well so I repented and now I'm weeping yeah good now I'm not just repenting for Adam time depending for me and I'm saying Lord I'm so sorry and I'm and this is what I did I said I'm asking that any word I've spoken that the enemy is using against Adam before you I'm asking for your blood to speak and annul those words that that that the enemy will have no right to take those words and build a case against Adam because I as his father said this and I base that out of Hebrews 1224 that there was a blood that is speaking better things than that of Abel so I began to do and all of us took about five minutes both both and I felt something shipped I've been praying for two years and nothing's happened right so when I do that then I hear the Lord say now prophesy Adams destiny now what I didn't realize was this my repenting in behalf of Adam and me repenting had just removed the case against him but now I was about to present a case in Adams behalf based on the prophetic work and this has to be really under the direction of the Holy century because I've heard even described as a divine lawyer who pleads our case yes before the throne rumor has died this is his place on the earth to do that for us that's like when we pray in the spirit he's pleading our case at the throne about things gonna happen tomorrow next week and on in on it on that basically the Holy Spirit that's right he was he was being so gracious I mean I said I began to prophesy because God has spoke to me the day Adam was born and said how beautiful upon the mount of the feet of those that bring good news that that was the prophetic word over him well he's in the ministry today but the bottom line was I began to prophesy that and then I prophesied anything else I was feeling and then as I'm doing that instantly the Lord said now now rebuke the spirit of depression and tell it to go because I had answered the case the case was removed I had declared his destiny and so I I mean this thing came up and I say you spirit of depression I command you you let him go now yeah and there was just this this wonderful release and I took about 15 minutes well I get up from prayer anything Wow well a week and a half later Adam calls me and I looked at my phone I realized so I answer it that's it Adam all right or he said hey Dad and I said he said can I talk to you for a minute I said yeah and he said I don't know what happened he said a week and a half ago all the depression left me he said that we're just instantly gone and he said I'm ready and willing and want to do God's will well he is a very very successful pastor now leading his own work with a widow with a wonderful wife and just all sorts of great things happening yes wonderful I mean everything is pal but I look back and I thought God showed me how to go for the courts in his behalf and stand and what I this is what I tell people what I could not do on the battlefield in two years I did in 15 minutes in the courtroom Wow Wow I'm thinking about that song we grew up with I will enter his gates with Thanksgiving and in my heart enter his court courts with price so the blood of Jesus will answer every accusation of the end we talked a little bit about that as well we were talking earlier a little bit about that that Hebrews what the Bible says first of all the accuser of the Brethren he says they overcame him which is the legal accuser is categories which I was telling telling her categories is the word we get which is was the word for accuser in Revelation 12:10 it's the word we get category category from categorize so what the enemy through his accusations against as he categorizes us he labels us he defines us he says this is who you are and God says no that's not who you and that's why we have so many people with and I did that's right accusations being spoke against them in the spirit world yeah so you take the blood they overcame him by the blood of them you take the blood and you answer that but Hebrews 12 24 says that there is a blood that is speaking of the better things than that of Abel and so Abel's blood cried for judgment against Cain and on the basis of the testimony of Abel's blood God judge Cain but on the basis of the testimony of Jesus's blood God God God listen this is what I tell people God is always has a heart to forgive he just didn't have the legal right to do it from God needs a legal right to forgive and the legal right is what the blood is saying because it's not it doesn't say the blood that spoke it says the blood that is speaking you see the blood is still speaking in my behalf so I need to know how to agree with what the blood is saying through repentance through confession through faith so that I get the full benefit of everything the blood is speaking in my behalf because the blood of Jesus not only saves us yes but it also heals us heals us sanctifies us delivers every sets us free yep that's amazing I have one question do you think because cuz there's probably lots of people out there who say bad things about as a negative stuff about us but I don't know if they all would carry the same way and I'm wondering is if you think because you were his father and you had authority over him that's why your words had absolutely I believe that anybody's working but I think anybody in authority over our lives they have a the potential is there for their worse to do really major damage to us so so there's two realms here number one I need to make sure my words are right over those that are connected to me my children my wife ministry people whatever that that that that my words are speaking blessing that's why it says blessing curse not but secondary to that or is important to that is that anybody that spoken evil words over me that the enemy is trying to use those words to fashion my destiny rather than what he says about me rather than what God says about me I need to undo those words as well I need to go in like him if a dad or mother was very negative and critical and they didn't get say and they didn't get saved well yeah we say Lord I'm asking that those words the words that they spoke the enemies the rights to use them would be revoked and that and that they would be a null and that those words do not have the right to shape my destiny and I think you will not determine Who I am and I thank you Lord for the Lord Jesus because that's right through the Word of God that's right what you say about me and God has such great destiny and purpose for all of us sitting at this table for you that are watching and the word that really came to me as we were talking today is that some of you have really been fighting if you will against the wrong enemy in that you have been like you said for two years warring with the devil and rebuking and loosing and bonding and I'm not saying that we can't deal with the demonic strongholds that that would try to come we have the power through the blood of Jesus cast this out but I mean there's just something about going into the throne room and and presenting your petition via the Holy Spirit with you and just allow and watching God do some miraculous things not only in your life but of the life of your loved ones and I think that was really good word about just all of us have done this Cindy I know as as long as we've been parents maybe things that we've said or done it you know we can repent of concerning our children or their spouses or our grandchildren and just to begin to speak blessing you over them I think that's so important well whatever you are facing today Jesus has already made a way for your breakthrough is only through him that we have any power and authority and when you engage with the Holy Spirit and pray guess what you walk in that authority for jesus has settled our accounts and is calling each of us to take hold of the destinies that God has planned for us I want to thank Robert for joining us today for more information on his ministry and other resources you can visit him online at gPEC dot world I know he has two books quarts of heaven and the cloud of witnesses in the courts of heaven and as always there's a need in your life that's why we have that toll-free number on the screen amazing prayer partners that are standing by ready to pray with you 24 hours a day seven days a week or of course you can send us your request by going today strong calm and clicking on prayer I want you to know that we pray over all the prayer requests that come in today start and our prayer partners they know how to pray be sure to join the conversation online by leaving us a comment on facebook Instagram or Twitter we always love hearing from you be encouraged today and just begin to pray about those things that the Holy Spirit directs you to and I mean just understand that you know you can go right into the throne room and petition the Lord talk to him about anything and he will listen to your prayers thank you so much for watching thank you Robert as we shaded you being here today thank you for sharing your story thank you ladies we'll see you next time by the way I speak blessing over my child my grandchild what about you pray in all my friends like you bye-bye for today this has been a day star television production [Music]

Channel: The Way Of Life Church

Views: 50,560

Rating: 4.8584809 out of 5

Keywords: the way of life church, groeschel, lifechurch, life.churchtv, church, god's word, sermon, Christian, bible, God, Joni Table Talk, Joni Lamb, Courts of Heaven, Heaven, Robert Henderson

Id: hT6eraggK_c

Length: 28min 4sec (1684 seconds)

Published: Wed Sep 04 2019