Post Frame Barndominium Cost | Part 1

welcome to Marshall remodel Mad County build series if you don't know who I am my name is Paul Marshall my wife is Emily we have three kids and we started Marshall remodel I don't know probably about nine months ago we've been remodeling just give you a little background about us I had a full-time career but during that time i remodeled houses mostly the houses we were in did some small jobs for other people and just over the years just developed a lot of skills because I wanted to do stuff on my own mostly at the beginning is because we didn't have the money to pay people but also because I wanted things done a certain way and I knew if I paid somebody else there was no guarantee so I started to learn how to to do things myself but this video today we started this build out on a piece of property bought mid summer and it's a post frame style home and we begin we've been getting a ton of questions about the build and so I thought I would do a video covering a lot of those those questions trying to answer them for everybody the channels starting to pick up a little bit so that's pretty cool so I'm just gonna start from the beginning I got a list on my phone of some of the questions and a lot of the cost of different things that have gone into the home and I'm going to go through all that in this video so we'll just get started one of the questions that we got was how do we come up with our plans or where do we get them and did we get an architect involved so our plans basically my wife and I sat down we talked about what we wanted in a house and then I bought some grid paper I'll just show you here quick just quarter inch grid papers and I drew these pant plans up myself over the years I've done a lot of concrete work work for an electrician worked for a HVAC mechanical engineer company I wouldn't say I'm an expert in anything but I have wide range of knowledge on a bunch of different things so I drew up the plans myself along the way my wife was involved she would look at and say hey you know this works or this doesn't and we just just kept working on it until we got the final plans that we really thought we liked as far as an architect goes I did not hire an architect and the reason being is for me I'm building this entire thing by myself so I didn't want to spend the money on plans but if you're gonna do this and hire somebody to do it you're definitely gonna need to hire an architect so you have plans to give to your builders or your various tradesmen so hopefully that answered those questions another question we got is how big is our house the house part is 48 by 48 and that is outside wall to outside wall so 48 by 48 and there will be a second-story we're gonna have all of our kids rooms upstairs and then we're gonna have a guest suite upstairs so it'll be a three bedrooms for our kids and then we'll have another bedroom they will also contain a full bathroom in a closet for four guests that's just one thing that we wanted in a house we're gonna have a washer and dryer upstairs the upstairs will have its all of its own utility so it'll have its own HVAC system it'll have its own water supply manifold and water heater and then there's also like kind of a play area loft that looks over the bottom of the house between the downstairs and upstairs will be around 4,000 square feet so the attached garage it's a four car garage it is 56 by 40 part of the reason I made it 40 foot deep is because the way I designed the house is all utilities there's a room in the core back corner of the garage that butts up against the house and that's where all my utilities for the house are are at so all the in-floor heat tubing comes in there all the packs water lines from downstairs come in there the you know the water line comes in there the electrical line comes in there so the water heater water softener you know anything relating to utilities will be in that room since this house is on a slab we opted to do a storm shelter it's 20 by 14 and it sits below the garage and above that room I'm gonna have like a hunting room office type area the side walls on the garage or 10-foot and the side walls on the house are 18 foot so on the house we're going to have 9-foot ceilings downstairs and we'll have eight-foot ceilings upstairs the next questions that we got a lot of our all involved cost so what I'm going to do is I'm gonna go through everything that we've done so far and I'm gonna give you the cost of what I've paid for it when I was when I got these plans drawn up I went to suppose frame companies and priced out material to buy a package and then I went to Menards if you guys familiar with Menards it's a home improvement store it's a pretty big in the Midwest and not sure where all they are in this country but I opted to go with them and if you know the history of Menards they started out as a pole barn company originally so they they really no post frame buildings another big reason that I went with them is because of cost and you know if you're gonna pay somebody to build this it might be better off to go with an actual pole barn company like Lester or Morton buildings but I feel like those come at a premium and being that I'm gonna I was building this myself I have to deal with Menards because they nobody could beat their price and part of that reason is because they have an eleven percent rebate that goes on pretty much every month and I have bought all of my materials from Bernards on that eleven percent rebate let me get my list up here so we started out the piece of property which you know I just assume you have a piece of property over here and buy something that's up to you that's up to you but if say you have to clear property I'll just go ahead and go over that it cost me I cleared quite a bit of land and I actually have a video up on her channel on cleaner in your land and total equipment a rental was five hundred dollars that's with fuel I ran it in an excavator I own my own Bobcat the gravel bucket but I am I rented a small excavator it was right around $200 a day I rented it you know for two or three days I think it was two days and I got everything I needed done with that at a very minimal cost if you pay somebody to come in and do that it's gonna cost you probably a minimum of 140 to 160 dollars an hour for each piece of equipment they have so it can add up really quick so I had five hundred dollars in equipment rental for clearing my land and I'll keep a running total for you and go over the total cost at the end the next thing was the driveway the driveway I dug out with my skis here which I owned if you don't own a skid steer you can buy them for a couple hundred dollars a day they come with a bucket so that's not not too bad it took me you know not even a half a day to dig the driveway out and then I had to bring in some bass rap bass rock you know this is different in different parts of country also but in the Midwest it freezes in the winter so you have to have a good base so your driveway doesn't sink or you know get big ruts in it so you get bass rap which is three inch rock so once I have the driveway dug out I had I think it was four loads of base rock for my driveway and we are 550 feet off the road so it took four loads and it was around four hundred dollars a load for that base rock so I have $1,600 in rock for the driveway and that's not including the finish rock but I'm not going to do that till next year once I know all I have all this heavy equipment in and out of the property my site where we built the house was not level and this is one thing that I wasn't expecting when I bought the peace property it would you know was overgrown there was you know three four-foot grass everywhere and it looked like it was fairly flat but once I cleared it off I got the grass mowed off from one end of my garage to the other end of the house was like a hundred and four feet and I think there was like three and a half feet of drop from one end to the other so that's quite a bit so I had to bring in a lot of Phil and I brought in rock verses dirt and the reason I did that is because if you're gonna if you're gonna prepare your site and you're not gonna build for you know year two dirt would be fine because you know it has plenty of time to settle and get packed down but that wasn't my case I was gonna start building right away so I brought in rock which is a I'm not really sure how much the cost difference is time is probably not a lot but I had to bring in man I think it was he was probably twenty loads of three-quarter-inch Road Rock to fill to get my site leveled off for concrete and that was let's see the total for that gravel was eight and dollars and I was only I only had budgeted roughly twenty five hundred dollars for that so that's you know that's about fifty five hundred dollars difference of what I was expecting so the next thing we had to decide is because this house is gonna be on a slab what we're gonna do for a storm shelter we live in the Midwest there's tornadoes so I decided to build a storm shelter underneath the garage in it and so I had went ahead and did that and then I built one that's twenty by fourteen and so I'll go through the costs of that now if he paid somebody to build this it would not be cheaper than buying a precast one if you paid somebody to build you a storm shelter like this you know with excavation your footing your wall all that kind of stuff it's probably gonna cost you anywhere from ten to fifteen thousand dollars depending on where you are the availability of you know kind of tractors it'll do that kind of thing so it's not cheap my my storm shelter cost let's see 25 about three thousand dollars is what I have into that and I'll go through the cost with you so I excavated it obviously I have the equipment to excavate it to that and cost me anything other than fuel which is very minimal and like I said if you have to rent a backhoe you're looking at you know two hundred three hundred dollars a day for a back over at the footing I had four hundred dollars in concrete I had a truck come from ready mixed company bring the concrete out that was four hundred dollars to the footing the wall was thirteen hundred dollars in concrete and then all of the framing Taylor I made I made all my own forms for this this project the storm shelter and I have twelve hundred dollars in material that's you know to buy aids to form up the footing that's four by eight sheets of plywood form with the walls all my tie is two-by-fours for the the wedges all of that cost me $1,200 know that $1,200 isn't lost because I'm reusing the plywood and I'm reusing all the two by fours so that material is going to get moved into the build so really the kind the storm shelter cost me less than two thousand dollars about $1,700 in Conakry obviously my time in a you know maybe 50 60 bucks and fuel to excavate it so once we got that done we're moving to the footings those footings I used a 16 inch auger on my skid steer to drill those footing holes and they're about five foot deep and you know basically after you clean them all out they're anywhere from 18 to 20 inches in diameter and five foot deep 48 to 60 inches deep buried a little bit the concrete for all my footings that's for the house the garage the porch that was one thousand seven hundred and ninety dollars and then i roughly had another two hundred dollars in the cardboard forms the sound tube so you get from an art the house and garage material so all the framing material the laminated posts the trusses all the steel I bought that in a package I went went to Menards I took my plans Menards I sat down with one of their guys in the material area that deals this kind of stuff and we went through everything and they made up a material list for me it costs cost about a hundred dollars they'll send it off to their designer and they'll put a May Tyrael lists together for you and if you buy the building from them that hundred dollars just goes to the material if you don't then you lose your hundred dollars we'll go over my the house my post spacing I wanted to eight foot on center and not just on the walls to carry the trusses but on the end walls also typically when they build posts free buildings the the walls that carry the trusses you know they're typically eight foot on center and you can go all the way up to nine foot on center the end walls are usually there's usually a greater distance but I wanted them eight foot on center and the reason being is because the way I designed my windows I needed at least eight foot in between or not at least but I needed the space to put my windows in and have them line up the way that I wanted so I just told them when I was going through it with them that I wanted all my posts and around the entire building eight foot on center so I used the on the house they were four ply laminated posts so what they do is they take two by sixes and they you know nail glue nail put metal reinforcement in those that way you have a nice straight post versus if you just got a six by six post over time that's gonna warp or some of them are worked anyway and my middle posts at the peak were 30 foot long so that's a pretty big post to just get a regular 6x6 and you'll be much happier getting the laminated posts because they're straight and you're gonna need a lot better finish on your building my garage same thing my posts were eight foot on center and those were also laminated columns but those were a three ply so he's three two by sixes the house for four ply the garage for three drop three ply between the house and the garage I don't have it broken town but between the house and the garage all of my wet set brackets my laminate columns my Gertz my trusses my purlins all of my steel all of my trim was $55,000 trying to think what else so basically that's my porch that's everything that's nails screws pretty much everything you need to put that building together was fifty five thousand dollars for the garage and the house I also got all of my doors and windows from Menards the windows I chose to go with were Crestline they're 350 series and they're a vinyl window I'm very happy with them when they came I've gotten a lot of different vinyl windows over the years and the way these were packaged and shipped was amazing I didn't have one window that was damaged not one that was the wrong size and I was just very impressed with them up to this point so I got vinyl windows for this house I went there when actually when I ordered the bill and everything I I was there for probably about almost an entire day doing this but some of these windows I wanted a certain size so I custom ordered all these windows and they were shipped directly to my house but all the doors windows in this between the house and the garage were twenty thousand dollars so between the doors and windows and all of the material to build the building I had seventy five thousand dollars the in-floor heat I've gotten quite a few questions about the in-floor heat the in-floor heat was I had a total of five thousand dollars in that and like I said between the garage and the house it's a little over 4,300 square feet so you could break that down but the biggest cost of that you put six millimeter plastic down I think I had to have three rolls of that then you put all of your two-inch poly styrene insulation down for biting sheets those were like $23 a piece that was a big cost I think I had to have a hundred and forty five of those and I think those are 23 dollars apiece and then all my in-floor tubing circuits there 300 foot circus I had have 17 of them so between those three things it was $5,000 for to get all that done below what's gonna be below the concrete now I haven't bought my boiler my controls and all that I'm not sure what that's gonna cost me but somewhere probably in the ballpark or four of four or five thousand dollars so you're looking like in a total system for all of this for my garage my house was trying to be around ten thousand dollars the interior plumbing so all the plumbing underneath the floor I have roughly a thousand dollars in that was basically everything so my pecs water lines and all my sewage plumbing vents that I have done to this point vary around $1,000 the septic system between I had I have a pretty big septic system part of that's because we have five bedrooms and part of it's because of the soil so you have perc test done perc test was four hundred dollars that's basically pertussis where somebody comes out they test your soil and then they tell you hey it's good for a conventional septic system or it isn't if it isn't that will design a system for you but mine was and it called for seven 100-foot field lines that's pretty big I mean the biggest ever I've had put in was a 500 feet and I had to have 700 feet of this so for my septic chambers that cost forty four hundred dollars for seven hundred feet of septic chamber between the septic tank in the distribution box I had $2,100 that's everything that's delivered in the hole and then the pipe to you know connect the septic tank to the distribution box in the distribution box to all the lines I had another four or five hundred bucks in so total on that and c6 $6,900 in my septic system that concrete floors so the tannery floors in the house I can't that's the one thing that I've contracted out to this point there's just no physical way that I could do that by myself kind of creat floors in the garage in the house and on the porch the total for that was twenty nine thousand eight hundred dollars so just under thirty thousand dollars is what all the concrete cost and what I budgeted was thirty thousand dollars so I was two hundred dollars under one other big cost that I didn't figure in was that lift that I rented that lift was an absolute necessity especially that I was doing this by myself I started out I built pretty much framed up all the walls to the house without it and I put up a couple trusses without it and then I think that was when Travis was out helping me and we were shimmying up those trusses nailed in the purlins and it was you know for one it just wasn't safe and it was just gonna be too physically demanding to to build some tired thing by myself doing it that way so I have to rent a lift I rented it for two months and a two month rental cost fifty six hundred dollars and you may think that's a lot of money but the amount of time that saved me was was well worth it I have forgot about a couple things kind of important things one is the water line between sign up with the local water company and having them put the pit end buying the polyethylene pipe that I needed to take it from the pit to the house was one thousand seven hundred forty-four dollars mind you we were I had to run that pipe six hundred feet and it was right the piping cost right around a dollar and cents a foot as far as electric goes I have $3,000 into the electric and that includes the electric was signing up with the electric company having them put the transformer in and then having a poem an electrical permit pulled and the electrical ride line ran from the trance the transformer down the pole in the ground over into my utility area to a 200 amp main service panel back to why I chose Menards I have bought all of this materials from nards on eleven percent rebate so right around I think I have right around 110 thousand dollars outside of concrete in this and I have I've gotten about ten thousand dollars in rebates so that one hundred forty two thousand dollars is now one hundred and thirty two thousand dollars because I have ten thousand dollars that I can spend on interior framing and everything so basically that's why children are you know ten thousand dollars goes a long way on framing and whatnot so up to this point the way this building stands with the exterior completed doors windows concrete I have a hundred and thirty two thousand dollars in this hopefully this helps some of you out if you have any other specific questions go ahead and message us and we'll try to answer those questions as quickly as we can and if you haven't already subscribed to this YouTube channel go ahead and hit that subscribe button I think we're at three right around 340 subscribers and when I started this I told myself when I hit milestones I was gonna do tool giveaways so the first one I'm gonna do is gonna be at 500 subscribers I'm going to give away a tool I'm not sure what it's going to be yet but they're gonna be tools that I've used to do a lot of my projects that I feel are kind of a necessity if you're going to do stuff like this and I'll direct you to our Instagram and Facebook page when it's time my wife's gonna figure out all the rules and all that kind of stuff but we'll share with you on YouTube channel Instagram Facebook on how you can enter and how you can win I think it'll be pretty cool I'm pretty excited about it I'm buying all these tools with my own money at this point nobody's donating or anything like that I'm just gonna get tools that I think are a necessity to do some of this stuff and I'm gonna get my way and hopefully be a blessing to somebody so hopefully you enjoyed this video I will continue to bring more updates and how-to stuff as I go

Channel: Marshall Remodel

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Keywords: Midwest, Iowa, Des Moines, Home, Design, DIY, Do It Yourself, Construction, Self Build, New Build, New Constrution, Post Frame, Pole Barn, Barndominium, Farmhouse, Real Cost, How Much, Menards

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Length: 26min 59sec (1619 seconds)

Published: Sat Nov 23 2019