Christians Getting Out Of Debt | Richard Roberts | World Harvest Church | Murrieta, CA | HGM 2019

hallelujah brother Richard we're so glad we are so glad in January of 2017 we went to brother Copeland's ministers meetings and he had brother Richard to do a healing service the last night the spirit of God more than prompted me I knew he had to have him I saw him in the flow of what God's doing in this era and that's what we're here for to better become more skillful with the flow of what God's doing in this era and skill is everything because you can have the anointing but if you're not skillful with it it's things are not going to happen as they should and things will be mishandled and things can get off and it requires skill so we brought the flow when we brought him because he is helping us go further amen I told you wouldn't take much just tip him over hallelujah dad Hagin said what God is doing in these last days is raising up strong local churches that move with the word of the Spirit don't fear from that this the prophet of God spoke to it by the spirit by the Spirit of God and just because the man isn't here the flow of what God is doing in this era is still intact it's still in place we say this with me pastors we have a strong local church that's flowing with the word and the spirit and that's why we're here this morning amen brother Richard come on as best you can [Music] Jesus mercy what did you do to me last night feel like I've been run over by a Mack truck I went to bed laughing woke up laughing three o'clock in the morning it's all your fault Nancy it's all your fault sure Paul I'm blaming you should've never invited me oh my goodness gracious I don't know that I've ever been in a service like last night and I saw some things I've never seen before I saw you - whoo like a go-go dancer I [Applause] thought you were respectable goodness gracious I saw you fly across the room oh my goodness I called my wife she said oh yeah I watched the whole thing I said I'm I apologize said no it was great well he's right online you know you watch the whole thing it's just wonderful praise God I told Nancy I got in the shower this morning about ten minutes later I turned the water on [Laughter] I forgot to shave I forgot mercy dangers I had barbecue for breakfast they sent me home with barbecue last night it's a rule you have to eat it mercy wish PayPal would leave me alone PayPal bothers me we're all in a hurry this money probably will be about 11 o'clock fogging start no no no no [Music] [Applause] Oh where's the nice chair this chairs nice hope you're comfortable I am have mercy isn't it refreshing hmm sleep right here my tongue is asleep and my teeth itch okay all right what no I'll just hold on I've never seen an offering like that I saw people throwing money my goodness well open your bibles I don't care where you open it you just open it doesn't matter God don't care where you open it I'll open it didn't care forget it back in August Lindsay and I went to the Copeland's Southwest believers convention in Dallas Fort Worth actually and we came in late we've been doing television all week and could not go to the earlier part so we came in on the Thursday night Jerry Savelle night to preach and we came in and sat over on the side behind the TV cameras I didn't even know brother Copeland knew that I was in the room but apparently he did because before he introduced Jerry he asked Lindsay and me to come up in about nine or ten thousand people there and he began to prophesy over me and I wrote down what he said I thought it would be a blessing to you and I would share along these lines this morning what the cankerworm has stolen and what the devil tried to do to you has been broken and the place that he tried to damage has been completely restored he said going forward there will be a leap in finances family and the healing anointing and I thought he was through but he said oh there's one more thing also another leap for you to teach on the laws of prosperity that began to resonate in my spirit and for the rest of the summer and through the fall I've been sort of how would you say vegetating on it yet it's been rolling around in me and I've been studying and I've been writing and we come to the first of the year and we're preparing we were preparing to well actually it was in December but just before the end of the year we were we were preparing to do our programs for the month of January which we do the month before when I get home this week we're going to do our programs for February that's the way we do our programs because we have to get them edited then we have to send them out to the stations so we have to we have to get it done earlier so in December the Lord said I want you to go on an all-out assault against debt and so I began to pray and I began to write and I began to create wasn't too long after I was with you a few weeks afterwards we were making those programs and ABAB must have been about the I think it was the first or second week of December and the Lord began to show me some things and I started writing and you all who who know me I very seldom I very seldom preached with notes I grew up under my dad and my dad always studied and prepared and always had notes but he never used him these linda was standing his coat you know but he was all prepared I sort of grew up being trained that way I very very seldom use notes but the Lord said I want you to use notes because there are a number of things that I want you to say on television and so I made for specific tailor-made programs for the month of January which started airing this past week so now this is the second week of four different messages that God gave me concerning Christians getting out of debt and so this morning I brought all the notes that I that I use and I want to share them with you because I believe they'll be a blessing now I've got to change a few things because part of it was tailor-made for a television audience so I'll have to make some adjustments as I go along so I'm gonna use these notes this morning but I'm doing it for a reason for a specific purpose about half of the prayer requests that I receive and I receive thousands of telephone calls every day through our abundant life prayer group thousands of calls in the years that we've had the abundant life prayer group we've received over 24 million telephone calls okay so we get a lot of calls we may be the busiest prayer line in America I don't know I'm not out checking that out we get thousands of calls a day and about half of the prayer requests that we received are from people who need healing financial it's either debt or inability to pay a bill or not being able to make it to the end of the month or things come up it's just everything you could imagine and that is a telling percentage we can keep a pulse on what's happening in America and Canada particularly because of the prayer requests we can tell when storms are coming we can tell when storms hit because people call us we can tell when there are major accidents because people call for prayer oftentimes we find out before the news media finds out because they call us for prayer the devil does not want God's people to prosper okay this is a serious serious battle but I want to direct your attention to 3rd John to 3rd John to beloved I wish above all things that you prosper and be in health even as your soul prospers now there's someone who has a spine issue it affects the center of your back but the pain shoots out to the left it's a very specific word of knowledge it's a spine issue but the pain shoots to the left whoever that person is if you'll just stand up right now and begin moving you're going to find that problem and pain is leaving you now it's leaving you now in Jesus name and you have the ability to move and you'll find the pain is gone hallelujah hallelujah can you tell the difference now I'm not sure I think she's in the spirit can you tell the difference yes yes can you tell it what are you doing playing golf probably get a tee time this afternoon if you want to you know praise God just let's just thank the Lord for a moment you know when when this first happening in my life when the word of knowledge began to manifest I I'd be preaching alone off sudden God would give a word of knowledge and I would say God you know not now you know and I'm preaching well who do I think I am to tell god what to do you know so he can do it anytime he wants he can interrupt anytime he wants with a miracle praise God third John - beloved I wish above all things notice he said all things he didn't say almost all he didn't say nearly all he said all things I wish above all things so we can say it is his greatest wish I wish above all things that you prosper now I don't care how you try to explain it away you can't it's as clear as clear can be he wants his people to prosper you can't explain it away you can't say that was Old Testament times no you can't do that or New Testament times you can't because he said it I wish above all things that you prosper and be in health that covers healing even as your soul that is your mind will and emotions prosper so in other words it's his greatest wish that you're well in every area of your life and when you are sick financially it affects your entire life some of the sickest people I know are people who are in need financially it affects them in every area of their lives I was sharing yesterday about when I inherited sixty million dollars worth of debt it tore me up physically you know when you have needs bearing down on you like not being able to your car payment now one of the things I'm I want to do this morning is I want to deposit this into the general audience this morning but also particularly into you ministers because I hope that you will take this and preach it okay I have no copyright on it okay I'm giving it to you I want it not only to bless you but I want it to be a blessing in the lives of your people okay so don't don't quote me just take it you know and use it you owe me no quotes my dad said to me Richard you're the only person that I know that will take the great truths that God has revealed to me and preach it like it's your own other people have to say well I heard Oral Roberts say say you never do that I said know it I wouldn't give you the credit for cuz you got it in the Bible so when you have needs when a Christian has needs bearing down on them they can't make a payment a car payment house payment can't make the rent can't buy necessary clothes can't can't take care of their their needs it tears you up on the inside and it's hard to talk about victory in Jesus when it's when it's when it's hitting you in the face it's rough and it reminds me of the story of Peter who had fished all night and had taken nothing now if you read between the lines and of course the Bible is a synopsis of the events and you have to read between the lines what was going on you have to know that since he was a fisherman a commercial fisherman that was his business if he fished all night and caught nothing it meant that he had no income that day and how does that translate how is he going to pay the bills of that day he has no income so you can let you must imagine between the lines what's going on here surely he must have been thinking how am I going to cover this need harmonica how am I gonna cover this check how am I gonna take care of this need and he's sitting there washing and mending his nets when Jesus comes along and asks him for the loan of his boat and Peter loans a boat to Jesus and he did it as a seed I don't know if Peter understood that it was a seed but it was a seed and you know what happened Jesus preached from the boat and then turned around and said now Peter watch out into the deep and let down your nets for a catch in those days fishermen did not fish out in the deep waters of the Sea of Galilee because the Sea of Galilee is two hundred feet below sea level and it is subject to violent storms without almost any notice and their little boats could not withstand the winds and the waves and you remember later on there's a scene where Jesus is asleep in the boat as they're going to the other side and they nearly capsized and the disciples had to say don't you even care we're about to drown well that's the that's the experience on that on that Lake that's why they didn't fish out in the middle of the lake they fished along the shore and what are along the shore small fish the big fish don't come into the shallow water they're out in the deep water and Jesus was about to change his mentality change his thinking that the miracle that he needed was for him to reach out stretch out his faith out into the deep and most Christians don't understand because they fish along the shore they don't launch out into all that God has told them to do because they're afraid they have fear now Peter launch out into the deep waters well but Jesus made the difference because he got in the boat with him and we as Christians have to understand that Jesus is in our boat when we sow seed when we give to God it's not addition anymore it's multiplication he gave Jesus one boat and Jesus gave him a boat load of fish he went from addition to multiplication now this is important and this is important for you ministers for your members he entered into a partnership a partnership with Jesus you want your members and you need your members to enter into a partnership with you with all that you're called to do you want them to hook to hitch their sail up to your wagon and to join you in the vision that you have for your ministry in order for that to happen you have to have partners Peter had partners in his fishing business and they came over and their ships were also filled partnership is an important thing partnership so the boat had become a seed and and they became a partner with Jesus when they loaned him their boat a partnership is an association of two or more people as partners working together a partnership is an arrangement where parties known as partners agree to cooperate to advance their mutual interest in 1948 the year that I was born two brothers right up here in San Bernardino by the names of Richard and Maurice McDonald converted their barbecue drive-in restaurant with car hops into the world's first McDonald's limited menu self-service drive-in right here in California one restaurant was their motto serving one community in 1954 the year before my wife was born a man by the name of Ray Kroc mortgaged his home and invested his entire life savings to become the exclusive distributor of what was called a five spindled milkshake machine called a multi mixer and he decided to move because he heard about this McDonald's stand in San Bernardino this stand was running eight multi mixers at one time so impact his car headed west and Ray Kroc was later to be heard saying never in my life had I have I seen so many people served so quickly he walked into the restaurant he met the two brothers Richard and Maurice and offered them one simple idea he said why don't you open up more than one restaurant because he was convinced that he could sell eight of his Multi mixers to every one of them and the two brothers said well who could we get to open the restaurants he said how about me 19:55 Red Kroc opened the first McDonald's franchise in Des Plaines Illinois and the rest is history there are some 25,000 McDonald's restaurants in more than 116 countries selling more hamburgers than any place else on earth how did it happen it happened because Ray Kroc understood a Bible principle he may or may not have known that it was a Bible principle but it was a Bible principle that comes from Ecclesiastes four nine two are better than one now that's partnership an unbelievable power in partnership that goes beyond addition to multiplication some of the people in your church are partners with you their joint partakers some in your church are observers they come to observe they don't participate but they come to observe some of them come to soothe their conscience some of them come because they believe they're supposed to be in church some of them come because they want their children to be in Sunday school I'm just telling you like it is you know I'm telling you the truth look I grew up in church too some of the funniest things ever seen them out of life have happened in church like that lady once I was about five years old came out of the bathroom and she had toilet paper stuck right here in the entire role followed her all the way to her seat Pasteur couldn't preach anymore I mean when you see something like that I saw some crazy things you know nobody like Christians you don't believe me just look at your neighborhood you look at but partnership is not an occasional thing that's why Jesus was very careful on the 12 that he chose he knew that he could count on those men to become partners with him Paul understood this and you can see it throughout the book a philippa Philip I because he presented this principle apparently everywhere that he went but only the churches Philip I got it only the Church of Philippi he said to them you have sent once and again and the the Greek language refers to again and again and again and again and again and you just kept sending unto my necessity he said not that I desire a gift I'm not in it for the money but I desire fruit that may abound to your account they were his partners now oftentimes people misunderstand when he said in that fourth chapter that I thank God that your care for me has flourished again it was not as if he had done something wrong he lived at a time when there was difficulty in communicating that did not have Facebook does not have Twitter that did not have mobile phones they did not have text messaging and they never knew where he was Paul was constantly on the move and they didn't necessarily know when he was in prison but he but they found him through one of the brothers by the name of a puffer Titus they found him and he said I thank God that your care for me has flourished again in other words you found me I had no way of communicating to you that I was in jail because he wrote this letter while he was in jail in Rome and he said you have sent once and again and again and again and again unto my and necessity what was his necessity his necessity was to preach the gospel to pray for the sick to bring miracles and to spread the kingdom of God throughout the known world that was Paul's calling and he wrote some two-thirds of the New Testament much of it from prison okay and he also in another passage said I'm grateful that you were not ashamed of me in my chains so they were his partners and he told them based on their partnership what was going to happen he told them my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus if we as ministers of the gospel could get across to our members to our partners what is going to happen to them as a result of their partnership instead of them having the idea that God is trying to get something from them he's not trying to get something from them he's trying to get something to them and you have all the forces of Hell saying the exact opposite the media the critics come out of the woodwork but I want you to notice they never built a statue to a critic and I think that's one reason why what brother Copeland said the other night about not reading anything good or bad about yourself or your ministry or your church is a good thing he gave me that advice 25 years ago and I have followed it if I don't publish it in our ministry or on our Facebook page I don't pay attention to it you know because there there are some people that like me there's some people that don't like me I Got News there are some people don't like you too and some of them may be in your church if we could get this message into the lives of Christians that God did not call you to be broke now the old Pentecostal mindset was it was that in order to serve God you had to be broke you had to have nothing and somehow that honored God and that still is in some circles and the one thing that has encouraged me the most in all of my years of traveling is how the african-american churches as opposed to many mostly white churches what their pastors to prosper and the reason is because that pastor becomes a symbol to them that if that pastor can do well I can do well somehow there are shall we say vestiges of the white community that have not understand how to understood that they want their pastor to be broke now Kenneth mentioned the story about my dad and and the the other night about about the parsonage he said that he was earning fifty fifty dollars a month he was actually fifty five dollars a week but you know that's just a little he got that wrong but it's no big deal but my dad was earning fifty five dollars a week and and they were living there petco pastoring and living in the pastor's home two women in the same kitchen two families of children in one in one small home and my mother had a belly full and said to my dad if you don't get me a home I'm taking these children I wasn't born yet my older sister and brother were I'm taking these children I'm going back to mama and if you ever knew Evelyn Roberts you would know when she said that she meant business my mother was German and when she said the son when I get you home I'm gonna wear you out I knew what was coming and didn't matter how good I was for the next two hours I knew what was going to happen when I got home and to keep me in line she was saying our son do you want me to say it I knew what that meant and I can straighten up real fast when I when I knew she was about to say those words that's when your mama says son when I get you home I'm gonna wear you out I could feel the back of my legs according to Deuteronomy you are not called to be a borrower you're called to be a lender the Christians say well I'm not a banker they automatically go to that do anything about banking it says you shall not borrow but you shall lend well that's either the truth or it's a lie it also says that we are called to be the head and not the tail why did he say the head instead of a tail will consider the view from that end call to be the head and not the tail above and not beneath blessed when we come in and blessed when we come out how is the world going to identify with us unless we unless we have something because the world is impressed by things and God is not against us having things he said what things soever you desire when you pray believe but the Copeland just branded that nail the other night you know he just nailed it and branded it on the other side God's not against us having things he just doesn't want things to have us he doesn't want us to have things for things sake actually our prospering is a witness I knew a pastor who went out and bought a beautiful car but he would never drive it to church he did not want his congregation to know that he had a nice car so he drove a rattle trap or the honk if you love Jesus sticker on the bumper to church that's the wrong attitude but I don't want him to drive the car of the nice car saying look at me I have a nice car no I want it to be a witness to people say hey hey how's he doing that I want to know more we've got to get this into the spirit of our people not just their ears it's got to get down inside of them and we are not called to be a slave to debt you are not called to live under debts stress pressure and sleepless nights and you can't tell me anything that I don't already know about debt because I have faced it I understand that when somebody comes up to you you somebody loses a child and say I know just how you feel they didn't lose a child no they don't have any idea only somebody who has actually been through it can say I know what you feel like I can empathize I'm right there with you well I understand how people feel people who have debt I understand and many many many many many Christians right now are being crushed by debt and so are many ministers and they are not able to do all that God has spoken to them because of the debt load that they're carrying and it's got to change there is a debt mentality that it's okay to be saddled with large amounts of debt as long as we have enough money to make the payment brother Copeland told me I will not buy anything unless I can pay cash for it he said if I don't have cash I want to buy it I will do without until I have the cash he told the other night took him 30 years to get to that house but he wouldn't do it until he had the money and somehow Christians get the idea that there's something wrong with money there's nothing wrong with money what's wrong is the way some people use it that's why on one hand Paul could call it filthy lucre and the other other hand he could say it had an odor of a sweet smell money takes after the person who's using it if you do good with it then it's good money if you do bad with it then it's bad money it follows you money follows you turn to your neighbor and say money follows you and God is not pleased with his body being in debt most of the churches that I know and have ministered in have debt they have a big vision and they have a big debt and they're not able to reach out and to do all that they know they're called to do because they're trying to make a mortgage payment each month then robbing Peter to pay Paul to me payroll and you know I'm telling you the truth and they have visions for new buildings and new programs but they don't have the time schedule because they're trying to get out of the present mess that they're in trying to hold their head above water that's not God's plan that's an idea that did not come from heaven that's not what the Bible tells us to do we are supposed to be above and not beneath we are supposed to be the head and not the tail we're supposed to be blessed when we come in and bless when we go out not so we can say look at me I'm blessed but so that we might be a blessing so that we can say if I can do it you can do it I've been saying this now for several years we are coming to an end time transfer of wealth the Bible says there's going to be a great end time transfer of wealth and we've already had the appearance of it in the Bible because God always continues to do what he's done he said in proverbs 13:20 2 that the wealth of the wicked is laid up for the righteous well I've got news that's not for when you get to heaven people say I'm gonna get all my needs met when I get to heaven what needs you gonna have when you get to heaven to be met you're not gonna have needs when you get to heaven you're not going to have need of dollars when you get to heaven needs are to be met down here on the earth and God wants to meet our needs but just like Peter we have to learn how to put seed in his hand if you want something from God's hand you have to let something from your hand go that farmer that brother Copeland talked about with my dad's name was art Newfield cuz I heard my dad tell the story once I heard it a thousand times he said I'm a farmer and I know that if I don't plant seed I shall not get a harvest now he was sort of a nominal Christian but every Christian in America needs to understand what he said and also this endtime transfer of wealth is coming a good example is found in in in Exodus when the children of Israel were released out of Egyptian bondage they took the wealth of Egypt with them why because they were going to establish a nation could establish the nation of Israel and that's going to happen again it has to happen it has to happen there's going to be an end time transfer why because there's going to be an end time transfer of souls an end time harvest of souls how is that going to happen is the world going to finance that no the body of Christ is going to finance that that's going to take not millions not billions but trillions of dollars and the body of Christ today is in not anywhere near the position to finance the end time harvest of souls so therefore there's got to be an end time transfer of wealth into the hands of seed sowing believers in order to bring in an end time harvest of souls it's going to take em o-n-e why my dad used to laugh and say to me Richard the gospel is free but it sure takes a lot of money to put it on TV because there's nothing that's free and I am suspect of things that are free you know when somebody says to me you're not just not gonna believe this I said you're right I'm just not gonna believe it and we Christians are so gullible we've got to wise up God's Word says that the wealth of this earth is not stored up to bless the wicked it is stored up to bless the righteous but not just to be blessed but to be a blessing he said we're to go to Jerusalem Judea Samaria and the uttermost parts of the earth with our witness when the Holy Spirit comes upon us well the Holy Spirit has come upon us what are we going to do with him are we going to go to Jerusalem are we going to go to Judea are we going to go to Samaria are we going to go to the ends of the earth Jerusalem represents your family Judea represents the places you go what are you frequent Samaria represents where it's tough the hard places and the whole world he said that about us it's not just the same ol 6 & 7 I get up every Sunday and preach a message and that's all there is to it there's much much more and the finances are stored up to bless the kingdom of God in order that we might be a witness but in order for this to happen a transfer has to come into the hands of the righteous and who are the righteous that's us now there was a teaching as I grew up that that meant self-righteous but that's not what it says I'm not talking about self-righteous Abraham was not self-righteous the Bible says he believed God and it was accounted unto him for righteousness not self-righteousness I'm not talking about that I know there's some self-righteous folks I understand that but I'm not among them this morning we are the righteous I've got news Peter Paul James John they're not here they were great they're gone they're dead we're here we are his modern-day disciples well I'm so humble I won't call myself a disciple why look if John tells us if we continue in his word then we are his disciples I'm just as much a disciple as Peter was I'm not Peter but Peter in here you're not James and John but James and John aren't here we're here and I'm proud to be a disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ I'm not ashamed of the gospel that rubs the cats for the wrong way let the cat turn around not me I believe that we can release the wealth of the wicked into our hands by giving our best to God in the early days of the church in Acts chapter 4 the people came and they gave their offerings and they laid their offerings at the feet of the disciples they brought money they brought food they gave land they gave what would be our equivalent today of stocks and bonds and the Bible says there was no lack among them that was a foretaste of what we need to be living in today they got the formula right probably is the last time the formula was right just imagine imagine every Christian debt-free let that sink in for a minute every Christian in the United States and in Canada debt free no indebtedness oh and just think about it for me think what we could do for the kingdom of God think of the vision that God has laid in your heart in your church and in your ministry if you were totally debt-free I mean you didn't know another dollar on your building every program fully funded and when God spoke to you to do something you could do it out of pocket change oh you want me to go to Russia take that money right there I'm going oh you want me to go to Nigeria you take that little cash I'm going I don't have to call my banker to check and make sure I don't have to check with the world I can look in the Bohr in the mirror and have a board meeting I don't have to run it by the owners I've been feeling it for months since brother Copeland gave me that prophetic word God wants his people out of debt and as I said this week on television I claimed an all-out assault against indebtedness and I'm calling for here I want you to join me in it to go on an all-out assault against debt I'm coming against it with the full force of my faith I am tired of Christians being a servant to the lender recent surveys show that the average American household carries an average of eight thousand dollars in credit card debt alone almost forty three percent of American families spend more each year than they earn now I realize that talking about debt isn't much fun but if we don't talk about it we're not ever going to do anything about it you got to talk about it it may be uncomfortable but if we don't talk with it about it we will never deal with it it is a huge issue and if we want to be the witness that God has called us to be we're going to have to have finances and believe me when we have the finances the world will pay attention they will want to know how are we doing what we're doing and we've got to get our faith moving on it I'm reminded of the story in 2nd Kings chapter 6 you remember the story about the four lepers who sat at the gate the people were boiling their own children and eating their flesh they were starving to death remember Elijah came through and said about this time tomorrow what cost you $100 today cost you a penny and one man stood up and say it never happened and he said that's right it'll never happen to you it'll happen but you won't see it now that's what doubt and disbelief can do to the person if you remember later on that man died in the press of the people trying to get out there and get the miracle those four lepers did something very unusual they planted a seed against their enemy and debt is an enemy inability to pay your bill that's an enemy they did something unusual they said if we sit here we're going to die if we go into the city we're going to die why don't we rise up and strike a blow for our own deliveries and they planted a seed against their need they decided to take a faith march against an entire army of thousands who had besieged the city and shut the city of Samaria down now to the natural mind it makes no sense but those lepers were making an investment of their seed against their need they were planting a seed against the need that they had and if I could get one point just one point through to you to help you with your with your churches and your ministries and your and your congregations and others of you who are not ministers to help you in your own personal life if you can get the concept of planting a seed against your need that when you come and give your offering you're not just giving money you're sowing seed against something I'm sowing seed against cancer I'm sowing seed against this pain in my back I'm sowing seed against this problem in my home against this problem that I'm facing with my child I'm against this problem in my marriage I'm sowing this seed against the depth that I have against what I have I'm planting this seed against what the devil is trying to stop me I'm sowing it against it if I can get that one thought across this morning then I would have been successful said all that to say this sowing your seed against your need maybe the most powerful sowing that you ever do sowing it against the need that you have and that's what these for lepers did they sowed a seed against the enemy and they began to march against the enemy and when they did God turned the tables on the devil and multiplied their footsteps they sounded like thousands thousands of soldiers so much that the army that was besieging the city said wow they've hired the Hittites against us they've hired mercenaries against us and they fled and ran in the night and when the for lepers marched into the camp they began to gorge themselves on the food pick up all the gold and silver and everything that the army left behind and one of them said this isn't right let's call the other people and they all came rushing out to gather in the spoils and that man who said it'll never happen got trampled to death and there are a lot of Christians getting trampled to death today they're getting tripled because they don't believe and the city of Samaria was saved and the prophetic word that Elijah gave came to pass 24 hours later just like you said this is a this this may be one of the most critical things critical messages I should say that God's ever laid on my heart to begin an all-out assault against it how many of you have some type of debt vagenda in your business in your ministry personally now look at the hands virtually every hand and my hands got to go up to I've got a house I'm trying to sell it's mortgaged so I'm in the camera huh I'm preaching to myself and by the way some of the best preaching you do is when you're preaching to yourself you're trying to believe what you're preaching my dad uses symmetry when I'm when I'm preaching healing sometimes I'm sicker than the one I'm brain bored I'm preaching to myself he said I'm believing God for my own healing and when I pray how many times have I stood by my dad and watched him he'd reached out to lay hands on somebody he was so sick he turned throw up over here throw up on the ground and they keep praying for people and when he pray for them he's praying for himself some of the best preaching he will ever do is when you're preaching to yourself because if you can believe it do I need to finish the sentence you get others to believe it I hate debt debts like leaving the television on all night and you wake up it's still there you go to bed with it the toss and you turn with it and you get that knot right here and eat you up on the inside and you stay awake trying to figure out how are you going to get out of the mess you got in it's like that story of the drunk I was walking home one night took a shortcut through a cemetery fell into an open grave tried to claw his way out it had been raining the dirt was turned to mud sat down in the corner of the grave and the darkness decided to wait till morning does somebody got him out 20 30 minutes later another drunk took the same shortcut yeah through the same cemetery fell into the other end of the same grave he also tried to claw his way out when from the darkness he heard a voice you'll never get out but he did it's amazing what you can do under the anointing and the devil may be saying to you you'll never get out you'll never get out you'll never be out from under that mortgage you'll never be able to pay it off you'll have to renegotiate you have to extend it you'll never be able to fulfill that vision that God has given you he's a devil of never it used to be a song called the 12th of never I hated that song it's worth hating a devil's favorite word is never you'll never do that but when we sow our seed against that need then God can do what he can do until Peter put the boat in Jesus hands until he released it you see that boat represented all that Peter was that boat was how he made his living yeah everything was wrapped up in his boat everything he had was wrapped up that's how I took care of his family everything was in that boat and when he released something that meant something to him then God released something that meant something to him and when he released that boat Jesus could then release that miracle boat sinking net breaking load and Peter not only got a net breaking boat sinking load of fish but he got a change in his whole life and the next time you see Peter fishing he went down to the lake and he cast in a hook he didn't even have to use any bait his faith was so strong he believed the word of Jesus and when he went he caught a fish that had money in its mouth and the next time you hear him about fishing is after the death burial and resurrection of Jesus when he went fishing again and tried to go back to his old lifestyle and Jesus stood on the shore and shouted have you caught any fish they said no throw your net on the other side get back to what I taught you to do and when he threw that in over he caught I remember how many was a 140 for a big fish and Peter remembered he said it's the Lord it's the Lord and went back to his first love all of us need to go back to our first night now I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know I'm not telling you anything that you don't already believe I'm just reminding you of what the Bible says but reminding you isn't enough it's something that we've got to do we're not to be just a hearer of the word you got enough of those in your churches you need doers of the word you need people who will hear and obey you need people who will partner with you and I'm depositing this into you today and I'm praying that you'll take it you'll use it take it in any form that you want change it around preach it let it be a blessing in the lives of people and put them to the test give them an opportunity now the one thing that my father always taught me is never ask anyone for something until you do something for them first he said don't ever give someone an opportunity to sow a seed in our ministry until you have ministered to them first that's why I think it's it might be better and I'm going to get in trouble on Hill by saying this but it might be better if we considered receiving our offerings off we have preached and ministered to the people as opposed to before let's plant our seed into their lives first well what if somebody gets up and leaves well put seat belts in you're cheating your church get changed I'd do something my father taught me that he said you must plant the first seed you be the example plant the seed in their life then give them an opportunity to respond I'm on an all-out assault against debt and I'm I'm going home tomorrow on Wednesday I'm going to start I would start taping on our programs for the month of February and I'm staying right on this because one of the big mistakes that I make is when God gives me something and I'm supposed to preach it I'll preach it four or five weeks and then I'll get tired of it and I'll say well my my viewers are getting tired of it and that's a terrible mistake when God gives you something stay on it until he tells you to quit the last order that a soldier gets is still in effect until the officer superior officer gives me a new order I heard this man I used to have a friend of his car dealer passed away some years ago and a man came to him said I'm so tired of the commercial that you have on television I'm sick and tired seeing the same commercial over and over and he began to rehearse every word of the commercial and the man said well I guess my commercials are working now because you can repeat it back to me like the man went to chicago years ago and preached you must be born again seven straight nights he preached you must be born again and one of the elders came and said when you're going to stop preaching you must be born again he says when you get born again just because you get tired of saying it doesn't mean you should stop saying it I am on an all-out assault against debt doesn't matter to me if people like it or not God told me to do it and I'm not going to quit until people start getting out of down and every testimony that I get of someone who plants a seed and gets a harvest concerning debt I'm going to read it out loud on television and I'm going to use those testimonies to encourage others look what's happened to John look what's happened to Mary they planted a seed look their debt was reduced their hospital bill was paid or whatever it's gone and I'm going to do it with a smile on my face so glad to have the opportunity to help save your life preach with a happy face preach with a smile I promise you your mouth will not crack be happy don't you hate debt I hate it I won't out don't you let's stand up together did you get anything this morning what did you get partnership what'd you get sow a seed and what do what attack the the need with the seed I'm in the process my wife and I are in the process of rewriting one of my dad's old books we're changing it around making it ours and it was called it's titled attack your lack praise God what else who tell me somebody else tell me what you got this more what you hear sow a seed against your enemy so they guess your enemy what you hear to be set free I like that better than being in change didn't it what did you get what you hear this morning what the Lord say to you keep teaching it over and over again don't give up don't quit just because you get tired of it don't you what did you get wealth transfer hallelujah glory to God not millions not billions but trillions I promise you I can find a place for it can you can your vision handle more money mine can money is simply the accepted medium of exchange for goods and services it's not good or bad it follows you if you do good with it it's good money you do bad with it it's bad money we make that determination the world doesn't make that determination and when we have it and use it for the right purpose not only will bless people but it will cause others out there who don't know the Lord too want to know how are you doing this and then you have a chance to be the witness smile that mean like you mean it alright now do you receive this this morning did I offend you in any way do you do receive it are you going to use it are you gonna preach it are you gonna live it now you tell me the truth are you sure can't talk you out of it you got it you're going to do it doesn't matter what the devil thinks [Music] if you got it and if you believe you got it if you're sure you got it yeah Jinyu then I'm finished somebody get praised at all [Music] they tell me there's still some books and CDs out in the lobby if you want them you know something I've so learned about God is it will have everything you're okay with and he'll let you have what you're okay with it it calls for a change of mentality that we're not okay with the way it's been we're not okay just because it's been that way it for a long time doesn't mean it has to stay that way for a long time and we can't just sit back we sow our seed but then the the word tells us Jesus said the kingdom of heaven suffers or invites violence and the violent take it take it take it my dad was a farmer he sowed his seed he tended to his seed then he went out and he took it and too many times we're not aggressive in our taking say I'm not putting up with what I've put up with in the past it's different for me amen I'm not okay i something went off in me for some reason when he said it a certain way he said basically we're phrasing is I'm not okay with a bill I can't pay when the bill shows up we can't pay it something's wrong something's off something's off and so many times we just show it the pile and stick in the drawer instead of saying and you know God told me I don't know I don't remember whether it's in 2016 I think that it was a year of abundance everywhere I went I preached on prosperity and abundance I had more people walk out of my services that year than any other time I've ever preached because they were offended at the thought of prosperity when will we start becoming offended with the thought of debt [Music] I'm a debt in my life offends me the debt on my church building it offends me I what I'm offended with I'm not putting up with my husband said something to me now he said something just really weeks before he he went home to be with the Lord I was preaching on prosperity on the road and he said you've got to go home and preach this once a month and I realized we'd let that slip because with every offering we preached a sermon in so to speak on giving and if we're not careful we think that's enough but people are dealing with money every day and a little sermonette isn't always going to be enough to what they're having to look at every day of their life and so that's something that we let slip that I did regarding and I believe the Spirit of God said that through my husband is that once a month you you preach a service on prosperity but the other thing he said and this is something we need to emphasize he said our sin has been laid on Jesus our sickness has been laid on Jesus he said our debt has been laid on Jesus he bore lack that's how come he could tell us I was made poor that you might be made rich he made us rich it's our responsibility to become what he made us to be [Music] how about this I'm offended at debt say this I'm offended at debt in my life I'm offended at debt in my brother and sisters life I'm offended at debt in my congregation I'm offended at the debt on my building therefore I'm not gonna put up with it anymore if you're offended you don't put up with it when you don't put up with it you get violent in the right way the violence of faith you know Norville has made this statement he said in our church and he said the reason many Christians are sick is because their bodies live with lazy faith the reason we're in debt is our finances live with lazy faith get up every day go after say it's saying the word I'm not putting up with this I'm not putting up with this we've seen it practice and we've rehearsed it and our grandparents our parents our aunts our uncle's and we've seen them struggle our life struggle it's something were redeemed from jesus said my yoke is light and easy he didn't say it's a struggle if we're struggling we're not doing it right we're not doing our part he's doing he's already done his part we've got to do our part what is our part he talked about that sowing a seed partnership oh this is part of it but don't let down that every day I'm calm remember what I love what he said I preached it so much quoting his dad every day a miracle is coming to you or going past you and I decided I'm gonna stop I'm stop being okay with my miracles going past how does a miracle stop at you instead of going past you like mine bartimaeus son of David have mercy on me I mean you just call out you just keep calling it's your call that stops Jesus on his journey it says wait I heard something call your miracle has to hear your voice call you might have to get and not not a passive call a violent call I'm not putting up with sitting on the road can't go further can't go anywhere financially can't pay for this can't pay for that and you're sitting there like that beggar listen we've all done it and you know why we've done it we've been okay with it not okay with it anymore that offends me [Music] amen and it was late on Jesus it was late on Jesus pastors you can go home as a congregation get your congregation say together we lay the debt of this building on Jesus he paid he paid there's a harvest there's a harvest to get rid of this debt amen hallelujah we're all no more we're not okay with it anymore any bill you know instead of us taking the bills and stacking and putting them in the drawer so we don't see him how about we put them out everybody look at and say I'm not okay with you I'm not okay I'm not putting you away so I don't see you if I see you I'm not okay with you amen right and it's what he's talking about we got we got a bigger thing to do than to pay our mortgage come on we got something bigger to do and if we're not succeeding at the personal level there's a worldwide level we need to be succeeding at God gives you he expects you to practice he expects us to practice on our personal lives so that we can bring that success to the church bring that success to the body of Christ because people will say well it's not about cars and it's not about houses no it's not but if you can't succeed at that that's your practice place is your personal life amen amen well praise the Lord I'm not going to piggyback you know it said don't piggyback on the preachers anointing and preachers sermon but this is my thing I want to encourage us in along with what he said get violent about it get violent about what does it mean don't let the people who aren't calling tell you to shut up that's what they did that blind Bartimaeus shut up you know why they could tell him to shut because they weren't calling and there's all kinds of things that around you that to tell you you can't have that and you can't have this you need to shut up and start calling yourself you need to do some calling yourself instead telling me what I can't have and what did blind Bartimaeus doing to Tom shut up you got louder you get you get an unexpected bill telling you to shut up about prosperity you better get louder that's how your miracle doesn't go past you amen hallelujah no more miracles going past me today every day my miracles come to me I stop I stop them not God to stop some at me I stop them at me with my call the kingdom of heaven invites us to be violent with what belongs to us to take it amen the Kingdom of Heaven suffereth violence and then the Bible tells us what Bible violence is and the violent take it and the violent take it and the violent take it and they take it and they take it don't just take it once every day we take we take it every day we take our abundance we take our freedom from black amen we take our rich hallelujah so many people are trying to get rich because they're waiting for money to come to make them rich it's because we're rich money must come it's not money that makes us rich Jesus made us rich therefore the money that belongs to us it must come it must come it must come it must come but not if you're out trying to get rich you don't understand you are the rich you are the rich we're not trying to get money we're not trying to get rich we're the rich therefore it must come

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Published: Wed Jan 09 2019