Can you beat Sonic Mania without collecting any Rings?

recently I've been watching a lot of seve gaming's videos about can you be insert Mario game here without collecting any coins these videos are really good so I decided to try out the concept on one of my favorite games sonic mania probably already knew that because you read the title or thumbnail but whatever today we are setting out to find out if you can be Sonic mania without collecting any rings first we have to set up some ground rules for the run see that ring counter there if that ever goes above zero we have to instantly restart now what do I mean by restart I don't mean the game's built-in restart feature in the files you can actually enable a dev menu which allows you to quickly restart from the last checkpoint while the default restart button makes you restart the entire level this should make playing the game not that tedious because if we get a ring we can automatically go to the last checkpoint instead of restarting the entire level we just have to make sure that every time we collect a ring we restart as fast as we can because if I collect a ring and then hit a checkpoint before I restart I'm screwed because that counts as a ring collected we're gonna be using tails for this run because he has the most aerial control some might say that we should use ray and Ray is a good choice but you just have more aerial control with tails on where you want to go and where you want to land so we're gonna be going with tails for this run now that we've got the ground rules down let's jump right into a game and see if we can beat it without collecting any rings Green Hill Zone Act one is fairly easy because once again we're playing his tails and you can just fly over most of the Rings but sometimes you do have to mix up the path that you're taking a little bit and there's this one part where you have to kind of fly it down like this it's pretty easy Green Hill one isn't too much of a challenge the only real issue is taking down the boss at the end of the level but it is the first boss so it's not too much of a challenge and we can move right on to Green Hill Zone to Green Hill Zone Act two is a lot harder than Green Hill Zone Act one but it's not too difficult still there isn't anything too notable about Act two it's just maneuvering around rings and restarting if you gravity Green Hill Act two's boss is really easy because the legs don't have a hitbox so you can just camp under the legs and keep on jumping until ease down and that's all of Green Hill Zone completed without collecting any next up his chemical plant zone act 1 and I know I said Greenhill act 2 was kind of difficult but the difficulty difference between chemical plant 1 and green hill 2 is just crazy chemical plant 1 is so much harder first off you can't take the topper route because it's blocked off by rings and there might be some way to make this jump but I don't really have the time for that you can however take the bottom route skip this loop by not going around it turning around and then going down the way it would send you dodge these crab people thingies I don't know their names go down this tube take a pretty specific route to be spat out in the exact right place that you want to go and then spend the rest of the level cowering in fear as you try and avoid all of the Rings chemical plant zone 1 took me a lot longer than I would like to admit and it was in this level that I learned two things number one being that the hard part about doing this run is not going to be actually doing it it's going to be routing it a big thing about Sonic games is how many different paths they have and how much they interconnect with each other chemical plant zone is a prime example of this it has so many paths and so many different ways you can complete it to get an optimal route where we don't collect any rings you're gonna have to go between these different paths a lot so most of chemical plant zone one wasn't even actually messing up in collecting rings it was just doing trial and error and seeing what's route was the easiest and which ones couldn't be done at all eventually I finally got to the chemical plant zone one boss and this one is a lot harder than both of the Green Hill Zone bosses because this one is known as the boss that everybody just damage boosts through after two or three tries I did defeat it though and we're on a chemical plant zone to chemical plant zone 2 as kind of a weird layout especially at the start basically it's this one path that you have to take and then you get launched onto this giant green bouncy thingy and you get sent off into the multiple paths thing I was talking about earlier but the start of the level is totally linear and cannot be skipped which is an issue because to get past it you need to collect rings that's right most loops in the game it cannot be gone around because all of them have rings inside of them and the only way to get out of this linear area is to go around the loop I could not believe that my journey stopped this quick in the game we laughs like a lot of other zones to go through and we got stopped at chemical plant - after all the work I just put into chemical plant one there was no way I was giving that up but I'm afraid that it cannot be done you cannot be sonic mania without collecting any rings or can you now I've been doing this run in mania mode which is the main mode of the game however there is a side mode that was added in DLC called encore mode this is basically the same as the main game except the levels have slightly different layouts and a lot of the objects have been moved around including rings now an encore mode this loop still does have rings around it but encore mode also has a lot of glitches that mania mode does not in encore mode you always have a partner with you in speedruns this can be abusable because you can teleport your partner to you and then a lot of the times they'll teleport into a ceiling above you if you're positioned correctly which can let you skip a lot of the levels so all we have to do is get into chemical plant zone - an encore mode with one of our people being tails not that hard right except it's stupidly over complicated in encore mode the first level is Angel Island zone and after you beat that you're kicked into green hill zone and play through the rest of the game as of its mania mode however I cannot pick tails from the get-go you have to play as Sonic through Angel Island zone until you pick up a life monitor with tails in it lucky for us Angel Island zone is beatable as just sonic it's not the easiest thing but it's pretty simple to maneuver around most of the Rings but you will miss your jumps from time to time eventually I finally got to the end of Angel Island zone where you have to break open this capsule and pick between my T and Rey now I figured that Rey would be the best choice because if his air mobility however I quickly learned that there are rings blocking his path I then went back through it and tried to pick my T but there are also rings blocking his path now while my T's ring seemed totally unavoidable the rings on Ray's path did seem like you might be able to fly over them so I tried and I tried and I tried and I tried again until I finally got it keep in mind that I only really got to the end of Angel Island zone about one out of ten times and I had to play through the entire level multiple times just to get back here for one try to fly over the rings it was it was kind of dumb but I finally got over it and with a rayon's sonic in hand we moved on to Green Hill Zone one plus I should probably mention this somewhere in the video for those of you who don't know but the live system works a bit differently in encore mode basically we gonna have up to five lives at once every life represents one character when one character dies is swaps out with the next character in the lineup the life up monitors are a bit different too in this mode basically they flash between the different characters it's going to give you and you have to jump on it with the exact right timing to get the character that you want another thing about encore mode is that as long as you have at least two lives you are always going to have that partner with you which is really annoying because a lot of the time the AI will pick up a rings that you don't want so you're gonna want to be solo for most of the run the restart function also works a bit differently in Encore mode while it still sends you back to the last check point for some reason it also gives you back the characters you had at the start of the level so if I start a level break open a character monitor to get a new character hit a checkpoint and then a restart it'll send me back to that checkpoint with the characters I had at the start of the level there isn't much I could do about this so I just had to do every level without messing up and god it was it's so over complicated first off you have to switch to Sonic and then immediately commit suicide because the long view of a partner with you the more chance they have of picking up a ring that you don't want after killing Sonic you have to play through until the next checkpoint as Ray while making a lot of precise flights over enemies and rings until you get to this life up monitor here you have to jump at the exact right time so that you get tails instead of somebody else next you have to switch to tails jump down to where these spikes are kill race so that he doesn't collect any rings that you don't want and then play through the rest of the level as tails then once you get to the end of the level you have to beat the DD records without any rings flawlessly and you have to do this all without hitting any checkpoints are using the restart function because that gives you back the characters right at the start of level which you don't want oh my god yeah okay Greenhill one is kind of a hassle but after you finally beat it after so many tries this took way too long you're on to Greenhill 2 which is just like it is in mania mode you just have to play through the level like normal beat the boss and move on to chemical one now I happen to know where an extra life is close to the start of chemical plant 1 so my strategy was going to be to grab that extra life beat chemical plant one with that partner and hope they don't grab any rings and then as me as tails and with someone else as my partner I'm going to perform the sealing glitch in chemical plant 2 to skip part of the level and that part of the level we're skipping is the part that's impossible I have a really good spot where I can do this glitch and it's actually used in speedruns here so I was really hoping it would work now I tried chemical plant was Zone one in encore mode for quite a while but I didn't actually finish it and I was like you know it's probably good to make sure that this is actually possible before I just keep trying chemical plant one so I jumped into a save file that already is 100% 'add and went to chemical plant 2 to test out the glitch as tails I go to the spot where you do the glitch I do the glitch I go up into this area you're not supposed to be in I do the glitch to get to some other spot just like the speedrun did and we are stuck here there is no way to progress to the left and to the right is rings of death and you might be thinking well can't you just do the glitch again to clip through this ceiling here I tried for so long and he kept teleporting back to me at just the wrong moment basically how the glitch works is that you need to get your partner far enough away from you that you can teleport them back to you while having a ceiling right above you and then as they teleport to you they need to teleport into the ceiling you need to spam the jump button so that they go above the ceiling and then you need to land back on the ground and then swap with them so that you're playing as them while they're still up there before they teleport back to you because you're too far away but sadly this ceiling is too far up above from the ground here I tried for so long to just in HD kept it's so infuriating just thinking about it I I'm so close but so far at the same time I went back down to the first level to see if there was anywhere I could do this good I looked at level maps man I looked I looked everywhere and I found nothing with the information that I currently know about glitches in the game I believe that it is impossible to get past chemical plant zone act 2 in mania mode and encore mode and sadly that means that it is not possible to be Sonic mania without collecting any rings but that does bring up the question what is the minimum amount of rings and that is a question so hard to answer I didn't tackle it there are multiple places in the game I can think of from the top of my head that are just not possible to get past there's only one path you have to take and it has rings on it that are impassable in lava reef one I went through the level I found like three spots where you would have to collect rings and that's only in lava reef one that is one level out of all the levels in this game if there are three spots in this one level where you have to collect rings think about all the other spots in the game the minimum ring amount would be so high that doing a minimum ring run wouldn't even be worth it my guess is that you need to collect at least 100 total rings to beat Sonic mania and that's just an amount too high that I don't think it's worth doing minimum ring runs I know this is a very disappointing ending we don't know the minimum amount cuz I was too lazy to do it routing it would take forever just looking at all the level Maps it's it be so hard and annoying and it's not possible to do without collecting any rings I know this might have been unsatisfying but I think my next video if you enjoyed this one might satisfy you a little bit more speaking of enjoying the 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Channel: BillehBawb

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Id: QcPdAAyKeeI

Length: 12min 59sec (779 seconds)

Published: Fri Dec 07 2018

Reddit Comments

[u/Lessiarty]

A for Effort. It'll be interesting to see if anyone takes up the mantle of trying to break the game in other ways to scoot around the rings, but as the narrator said, a minimum ring run has a pretty low shelf life before it looks a bit too much like just a run.