Building a Hunting Cabin 21: Metal Valley and Hip Details

welcome back guys to another episode where Kyle's microphone did not record so you're gonna listen to me kind of explain what we're doing and we'll get through this hopefully this is the last time as you can see we're prepping for roof steel finally on that back porch area and we've got some valleys to deal with so we're gonna talk and show how the valleys are done but one thing you'll notice is that I always try to not just overlap our eave trims but rather make sure that you notch and slip those notched edges into the hems on your trims now with the valley pan what I like to always do is line up my first piece so that it's straight at the bottom and appointed directly to where I want that valley to end up and you see me marking the underside that way I get a perfect mark on the sheet and then I'm gonna give myself an inch and a half overhang on that and that is so the valley pan matches the inch and a half overhang on my rough steel now one thing you're gonna notice is that I'm gonna leave the middle of the W value long and you'll see why in just a second but you don't want to cut that off right away now what I'm doing is cutting it and manipulating that w so that it closes and if you look up there from the ground you're not gonna see into that W as easily now there's gonna be a gutter on this entire thing and all the more reason I just think it looks cleaner it looks more professional and doesn't take a whole lot of time to me it's totally worth it now that I've got that bottom piece of W Valley where I want it I need to get my measurement for the second piece and what I'm using is the stabile a tech level it's gonna give me the exact angle that I want so it's basically a big protractor the nice thing is if you don't know where you want it it has a digital readout so you can put it to the exact angle that you're desired so here I already know what they were supposed to be but I used it just to double-check and now I'm gonna cut where it's gonna slip up underneath those connections trims and you'll see what I do you don't just make a cut you got to give yourself a dam so that any wind-driven rain doesn't work its way up the valley and get into your connection [Music] one really nice thing about the proper overlap which I always try to go 16 inches or so on the W Valley connection is it self aligns itself really nicely and don't forget to use a good sealant at that joint we always use an OSI quad max and we find it to be the best once I've got everything where I wanted it I do like to take the zip tape which is on the entire roof and just add an extra level of protection connecting the trim to the sub sheeting so I don't think it's really required and a lot of post framers do not do this but as you can see protecting all of those edges and making sure to roll that tape it's just going to give you an added insurance [Music] now it's finally time we can start putting roof steel up here on this porch roof now I say it's time but we still have to put our closure strips that's gonna go down at the eave and it's gonna protect any wind driven rain or really anything from going up inside those ribs but you got to make sure before you lay steel on any sheeting to clean it off otherwise if there's any dirt any rocks anything it will show through on your metal don't forget make sure you properly lay out top and bottom to the specified dimension of your steel for us that's 3-foot so we want to make sure that every sheet is laid out to a three-foot dimension so we don't get off and we can maintain a perfect square and a perfect straight line down at your Eve you'll notice here where we connect to that corner of the building that our sheet has that roll-up going up underneath of that connection trim and that is going to prevent any wind-driven rain from making its way under that connection trim and going into the building it's gonna hit that roll-up and it's gonna come out the bottom of our steel and run out to the gutter like it should now it's finally time to work into that Valley but first in order to know where our cuts are we got to snap some lines so that way we don't mistake our angle or our pitch of the sheet you'll see here we're making a three-foot reference line and that's gonna give us an exact space or place to get our angle for the steel it should be the same angle we've been doing which it is you can see there on the protractor the 43.9 that's been that angle throughout the entire project and with mathematics I'm able to layout where the edge of every sheet is gonna hit that valley line and that's gonna give us reference lines to go off of when measuring for our first sheet of steel here we're gonna be using an AST sealant tape this is commonly used for hips valleys or other closures and we're keeping it an inch up from where our cut actually is on the steel and you're gonna see the sheet is gonna be pushed into that and that foam is gonna expand and fill and close the rib right here I'm trying to tell my microphone that we're gonna be putting fasteners up that Valley three of them one in each minor on every panel and that's gonna lock that down now I know a lot of you are gonna be like I can't believe you're screwing into the valley I totally get it but unless you are gonna spend a lot more money to put on a standing seam roof that does not have any fasteners that hems around a connection in the valley which we've done and looks great it's just a hard sell on a project like this these washers are made and are expected to last 30 35 years and like any project like any material they have a lifespan and so you're gonna have to do a little bit of pre-med preventative maintenance and I think that's just one of the things that's accepted with this form of construction and why it's really so affordable now while we're sitting here working I will mention because maybe somebody picked it up but most do you probably didn't even notice the ribs and the valley do not line up and there was no way around it I had to have one spot on this building due to the dimensions due to the layout where they just weren't going to line up and I had to make that decision I figured the back of the building here was gonna be the best place for that and I don't think anybody's even gonna really notice what I'm doing here is cutting the end of my gable trim for our gutter detail and it always looks a little bit weird at first because it's just hanging out there but once the gutter gets installed it really does I think makes sense because it kind of hides the corner or the end of our gutter keeps everything looking seamless and like it's just one piece like it's part of the building like the detail was meant to be that way not just an added afterthought that just bothers me when that's you know the case and if we can prevent it I always try to think about how to make it look as good as possible check out this gable end detail I love it when I have the opportunity to do the one piece not only does it give you a nice connection on the top where water is not going to make its way in potentially but also just it honestly self aligns the piec to be exactly where you want it and makes things real easy yep those are magnetic boots cougar paws do they make them for roofers and they really do help make you feel real comfortable not all of us can be wearing $160 I don't know Nikes whatever Greg's wearing there I know they're not cheap and but that for me look good though Greg you look good you can notice they're on the end of that ridge cap we've got some foam closure and that's going to prevent up to 110 mile an hour wind driven rain from driving into that end and since this video I've actually changed this detail so you'll have to stay tuned to some future videos to see how I'm doing that now I think it's an improvement and that's kind of the whole point of the game to continually improving finding new ways to do things so like always if you guys see something I'm doing that you think I could improve upon let me know I just want to kind of give a little perspective on being a contractor and how gratifying it is to kind of take a step back look at your work look at your hard work the stuff that you did with your hands and be able to appreciate the fact that it's something that you and your team did and you did it to the best of your ability and that's I think what's missing in a lot of trades or I should say a lot of careers versus the trades I mean look at this we built this we did this and it wasn't easy but it sure is gratifying I think I've come to realize that what really draws me to post frame and this style of construction is the lines everything I do everything we build has the ability to just have all these awesome crisp lines and I think it just helps soothe my OCD or something but I just really love it [Music] so this is my hip cap here it's a custom hip cap wait what my microphone works again awesome it's basically just a simple five by five with a hem the hem is on here so that it stays nice and rigid no matter what I do when I put a fastener through these hems or by the hems its gonna put a little bit of an oil can I can't avoid that there's a couple different details that we have done in the past but they're not really that good I don't think for this we could do some sort of a clip system similar to like a standing seam we're basically here in the flat of the rib I put like a reverse J channel here so assume like a piece of trim that's got another leg here basically a Z and that goes here and then this trim would basically slide right over top of it it's totally doable it's a ton of work and you know this whole system has an exposed fastener so that's kind of what we do maybe one thing will make the jump and do some hidden fastener hip caps I don't know I'd be interested to see or hear from you guys what you think is that really worth it I guess the biggest thing is wait till I'm done see how it turns out and then tell me if it's worth spending probably three to four times the amount of time to make the other system work kind of massage that Oh cup itself together cards ACK let's get this in the center and then so this is an AST sealant tape and we can we can use it to fill seams and joints seals out moisture wind cold and vermin it's really nice because you can use it around any openings and your valleys your hips but this doesn't breathe so you don't want to use it as a ridge vent if you're wanting ventilation but if you just want to seal stuff off this stuff goes from a quarter to one inch and it just works really well probably about 12 bucks a roll so it's it's not too expensive it's good peace of mind to keep any wind from driving any snow or water up into your hip yeah robot there all right well there you go there's the hip cap it's really hard to show it there's so much light glaring off of it the oil can didn't all can too bad i'm sure depending on the light you're gonna see just the ever so slight dimple location of each screw and that's the worst part about a hip cap but overall I think it looks really good all the ribs lined up everything's pretty darn good I'm pretty happy with it make sure you guys drop a comment down below tell me what you think of the hip but he's got any resources for a better hip cap system I'd love to see it so make sure you share that as well now I'm missing the last Valley for right above this porch in the front so I'm not able to finish that porch roof instead we moved on to the ceiling underneath the porch roof [Music] who have to tell you guys hard day long day Friday it's been a long week we've been pushing to wrap this job up and I I kind of knew we weren't going to get it done but that's you know the way it goes you got to have goals and things to help push you along otherwise if you just say I will get it next week then you'll get it next week and you won't try to do it this week but we got it probably another day or two at the most to finish this exterior up and then we got to wait for concrete to be poured so we can set our doors and then once the doors are set this wall here that we're next to we can do some versed a stone and finish it off but other than that we're about done on this thing so we see some valley pan on the maybe Tuesday so in a couple days we'll see our valley pan and then we can finish up the roof above us and as well as the gable out here on the front of this porch but it is really turning out pretty good so I'll leave you with some awesome drone footage hopefully we'll see having taken it up yet but I'm optimistic later like always guys it would mean a lot to me if you hit that subscribe button I know about 60 70 percent of you that are watching are not subscribed and that's totally cool but hey if you're gonna hang around if you're gonna watch if you're going to you know enjoy the content just hit that subscribe button and if you already are subscribed thank you so much this is not my business but I surely enjoy it and I will continue to do it as long as people are enjoying it as well

Channel: RR Buildings

Views: 3,493,305

Keywords: building, building a hunting cabin, bushcraft camp, hand tools woodworking, home building, hunting cabin, hunting cabin roof, installing metal roofing, off grid cabin living, post frame, roofing the hunting cabin, timber frame, tiny house living, metal valley flashing installation, metal hip roof installation, installing metal valleys on roof, rr buildings, stabila tech 700, stabila tech level, metal hip detail, tips and tricks

Id: 1x5dV57srM8

Length: 19min 47sec (1187 seconds)

Published: Mon Nov 04 2019