Black Conservatives Debate Black Liberals on American Politics (Extended Version)

save all the good things for camera and when the cameras are rolling just to kind of introduce why we're all kind of here on a Saturday afternoon I host the show here called minority reports it's a digital show and we're doing an episode based around like the political ideologies of the black community and how they differ and where they overlap and so we've brought you know a nice eclectic group of brown people here to kind of discuss politics and how we all come to our political ideologies as members of the black community in America hopefully what this will do is allow our audience who probably wouldn't find themselves in this type of an environment to have this type of a conversation to learn something so with all that being said three words or less when you think of Donald Trump what is the first thing that comes to mind and Rob why don't we start with you strong make America great can we come back to me oh his ancestors wildest dreams very scary trash man anti-black necessary hmm I just think unicorn in the sense of just causing so much discussion the reason why Donald Trump is in the spotlight right now is because of our past failed governments for the simple fact that when the Republican primary happened there was like 16 different candidates and don't get me wrong there was like really good ones really stature to the point that everyone in this group would be like oh yeah I can see why he won but in Donald Trump became our opportunist and knocked down every single person week by week like it was Larry watching a different season of The Apprentice look what has America done that a guy from the outside can just walk in there bing bang boom it's and take down these iconic structured politicians that we look up to throughout our whole lives draining the swamp as it was yeah but can we talk about that though like this whole notion of like a guy from the outside like that's part of my issue right like if you really know how this country is being run like the country has always been run by rich billionaires so like he's not from the outside this country has always been run by Pharma this country has always been run by banks this country is literally run by the industries that he made his millions and billions in so like this whole thing like oh he's a political outside no because politics has always been run by capitalism which is the system that has always suppressed minorities so like that's it's capitalism has always I don't think so I do have to jump in and take a little bit of umbrage with this idea that capitalism is some sort of system that oppresses minorities up to this point and also I don't like saying minorities we want to talk about black people like let's just talk about black people because I'm not a minority I just wanna make that point all right absolutely so so when we look at capitalism as as something that has oppressed minorities or is oppressing minorities we removed from ourselves the capacity to use capitalism in order to little bill in our communities in order to move forward for ourselves yeah by show fans who here voted for Donald Trump all day from I didn't know vote in the 2016 election tell me why I didn't blow in the 2016 election because war wasn't my life I didn't feel like either those candidates had earned my vote I considered myself a Democrat at the time I loved Hillary Clinton in the entire - if you really want to get into it I voted for Bernie Sanders on the property in the New York State Hey for the black conservatives how do you align with white conservatives when they speak mallove black people just in terms of how especially states speak of black men you know how you stand with them when they are continuously how do you do that it's over and continuous from the Democratic Party as well so so people even late anyway you go you races there gonna be some races all over the place so now it's like okay yo watch your mouth like I'm not okay we're not going that route what is your reaction when you see a black person wearing a mag ahead I think it a last part when you see a black person wearing a mag ahead three words or less what is your reaction go for it [Laughter] three words or less there's the story I don't know that's poor I don't know there's a story independent-minded brother oh I got one word it's bold that's so funny he said brother boos oh cringe cringe you do you looks good on you can't fit on my head what is your perception of black conservatives believing in Trump's rhetoric just morally I don't understand because morally just him as a person as a as an entity just seen it's just super corrupt and his ideologies I don't understand how anyone can go can be about it but especially especially a black person just as identity as a black person I don't understand it the thing about it is is that he asked me about conservatism and then you took a de trop like later for those of us who identify as conservative right I want to hear about your treatment within the black community being an outspoken black conservative and then I want to hear about the perceptions that you think people have of you whoever wants to start well I'll start with myself because like so look you're gonna hear and I'm gonna let bevel and speak to the black perspective but I'm just being from the gay perspective so all right because I came out as a black gay conservative about six months ago I have been treated horribly by other gay people the only friends that have dumped me are quote-unquote friends that have dumped me for for being conservative Republican have been the gay ones the people who give me the most believe on social media have been the gay ones the people that call me the nest is all kinds of like Oh house nigga Uncle Tom like all this stuff like these have been gay people are the people from the quote-unquote tolerant and inclusive LGBTQ community all right so this is what my experience has been and in being somebody that has been an advocate and still consider myself an advocate just not in the way that they want me to be I was very shocked by that because I think that when I came out as conservative they like to push forward this this this veneer of inclusion and tolerance and that dropped like that so it was the nastiest treatment that I had ever seen and I never expected it and you never expected as a gay person until it happens to you for me like it's thought about my high school friends everybody was unfriended me on Facebook because you know I was talking about the Trump election and I went to the inauguration and all of that so my fam and then they trickle down to my family I just won't speak to me even now I got honest that don't talk to me because I'm I wanna be right so it's like I get this stigma all the time all right now oh you you want to be writing you don't move to New York City and now thank you you are up there with the big city you want to be right that's it seems like when I speak of what I speak of is only the fact that I just want to be right and that's so far fetched from the truth I've been called the bed wench I've been called and I mean I'm talking my from my black brothers who own a they are they paid who took my black Queens and all this stuff like that but the moment I don't agree with nothing ain't talking about now I'm a bad witch now I'm and now you're not saying I'm all this other stuff and it's just like I mean to be honest with you ain't nobody been busting up to say none of this stuff in my face and ain't not going up well this is via social media we know this but at the same time is just like hatred is the nothing but hatred and you know for me it's like even when I deal with liberals who may have their little mind settle with anything I gonna disrespect them and call them all types of names it's like I've gained all that fly-in disrespect and it's just like because I want to be white this is what I did so does anyone well I I said made a statement on online I got pretty a lot of people commenting on it was I didn't see true racism in this country to our came a conservative guys I've seen hate what hate speech come from people you know about left hard time I hate so much I saw true hate coming from the left and it was white people calling me up with Tom pre-med white good tell I'm not black enough which is you called them out on it and say they're racist that's like think about like well yeah I'm kind of being racist that's how racist the Left still is yeah and then I had like she said my hunts don't talk to me anymore I have high school friends could use a childhood they don't want you know don't talk to me on a of me and a lot of white friends as well now I'm gonna talk about his black friends I'm talking about people on the left in general you just have that hate in our heart in my opinion and it's just uh you know that's I mean it's so interesting that on the left like the whoa keys is what I call them these are the people [Laughter] the woman's give me the white liberals of the left missile base to tell a black person how to be black and how you were supposed to experience pink as a black who here voted for Barack Obama family everybody well twice campaign for him in a week well so did I she had a great campaign not instead of vote for a semi personal question did anyone vote for him just because he was black not just but that was a big reason I put yeah see how them it's really funny because I'm a conservative and I will admit that I voted for Barack Obama in 2008 purely because he was black I did you know I'll admit it and in the reason why I voted for him is because I was so open to in and so available to be used by all of the systems that made that person president right and for all of the systems that that were promoted to me this idea that just because he is biracial african-american whatever you wanna call it that he is going to somehow have my best interest at heart that he comes from the same experience that I did know I come from the same source me let me tell you something I've got the lacking for an Akron Ohio okay this person was born and raised and wealth and privilege his entire life and the idea hmm that this person was somehow more connected to me because we certain share the same skin color is crazy but I bought it and it was sold to me I bought and I mean it's a mistake in a way that I voted for mainly because he was a black man I think yeah it was a mistake that's lame yeah and uh and eight years later Lee a mistake that's the one reason why I'm conservative now because I said when I was young more naive I will go in to vote for somebody cause of the way to look and look what it did for me absolutely nothing so I make sure next I make a vote it's gonna be with some substance it's gonna make sure where somebody's gonna have what they're saying and what their actions is what I make because their vote and as we move forward by show of hands who is disappointed with the Barack Obama presidency what's the point with I mean we put a black face on a white imperialist nation and expected that change was gonna happen my grandmother my ancestors especially my grandmother my grandfather they were sold that that was what the American Dream was supposed to look like that a black man could come in this country could that black people could come from chattel slavery and achieved the highest position in the land unfortunately the way that these systems of oppression work especially K through 12 we're often taught that leadership what's gonna lead black people to liberation is gonna come from a white man oh and you know so like when we then had a black face up there it really felt like oh oh we really close like we really really close but then it was a lot of unlearning that a lot of us had to do a lot of unlearning that we all still currently have to do to understand that our oppression you know where our pressuring came from and the fact that like we're never going to be led to liberation in a binary system a binary system for black people is literally always going to be choosing a lesser or two evils no matter how you slice it or dice it whether it's a Republican in office whether it's a Democrat in office I'm always choosing my death either as a blunt-force blow or death by a thousand paper cuts and it tends why I guess in general black people always lean Democratic is because that death is by a thousand paper cuts as opposed to what I'm dealing with right now where I'm watching HIV funding being stripped as a black queer hiv-positive person where I'm watching trans people losing all of their rights in this country as an LGBTQ person what are trans people losing take it so we can start with in 2017 the Office of National AIDS policy was taken away there is no more not Office of National AIDS policy transgender women including especially black trans people are the highest infected people of HIV in this country including black MSM so you had that office taken away you then have had where 586 million dollars was removed from the Ryan White fund and transferred for the border separations Ryan White money is what pays for people to have HIV care in this country when they cannot afford it that includes transgender people you have where seven words were removed from the CDC funding including vulnerable transgender and scientific base so now companies that supported trans rights and trans people can't write grants to get money to help that particular demographic you have the transgender military ban when I say that they are literally attacking LGBTQ rights this is not a joke it is just coming because it's so much going on you just missed that every day these little things are happening I just wanted to say if it's curious to me because I'm somebody who's gay as well I'm gay I'm not queer I'm not LGBTQ I am a game you can't speak to one spot oh no I can't and what's so curious to me is that we talk about our community as if everybody this transgender is infected with HIV or has housing insecurity as everybody that's a game lesbian like black or males Nettie for ten minutes now but I said this is how so my whole thing is so this is how we speak of the community all the times is that we are always some oppressed victim gay person it drives me insane because I fought for LGBT rights when I got arrested at the front of the White House protesting Don't Ask Don't Tell repeal because I served in the military for five years I grew up porn black in Akron Ohio all right I went to one of the worst schools in Akron Ohio I went to the military risked my life multiple times okay to get every single thing that I have right now there is no reason that every single black kid on the block can do that same thing so you didn't vote for Donald Trump I did not what are the issues that you take with the president so just really quickly to a point that George said right that I feel like the candidates that kept being put up year after year after year keep hard lighting us we're saying we're choosing the lesser of two evils right well I think that it's really important that we see candidates that come from our communities that are talking about like for me right I'm 25 years old my student loan debt was due on Monday it doesn't pay that right because I don't have the money to pay that right away so thinking about what are ways that we see people who are experiencing the same thing who are coming from our community we also recognize the historical debt that this country has to black people and to people of color so that we can move forward so we know that like none of us are free unless all of us are free thank you none adored me how free so you voted for Donald Trump yeah you mind telling us why he won your vote in 2016 at first I really didn't know much about what Trump was doing I just knew okay it ain't hurt so I'm just gonna vote for him and I was still coming into being a conservative and all of that and I just got converted to a Christian I'm looking at my Christian values and I'm growing as a Christian I'm realizing wow you're not I mean this man is really aligning himself with what you truly believe in you know I'm coming from the south I don't know Carolina we're really Christians you're not saying well we're my people from you know everything is based off of that so I'm not gonna support any party that's gonna support abortion you know I've said we just now getting kind of comfortable with homosexuality you know what I'm saying and also you know it's just like with marriage you know divorce in and everybody's stupid every time to get here you know in the south it ain't like that so it's like that's just that foundation of trouble but now going into the economy I mean I'm a businesswoman I have my own financial consulting company and seeing what he's been doing to where my taxes are not too high and I'm not paying for what I came from aka living off the food stamps and katika and I got family on food stamps that continue to live offer and I know listen I can't be the hood I can't I was just in the hood yesterday cuz my cousin just got out of jail someone to go see him so I mean this is what I'm around everyday and it's like my cousin's got the same opportunities I got all they know about is either they go making it basketball or big gonna have to just try to get some type of job and make it I'm like no let's start a business of like let's get this chicken let's get it's a real estate firm is helping certain people you guys helping me but if yeah but it's very you know you know you what I'm saying is this for me because I was able to step out and this is a chick who got a felony who had five years probation who got a felony for grand larceny which came down for money laundering so when I say I was going white-collar crime I was out here in these streets hustling scamming please okay and so what I did was I made a choice to surrender my life to Jesus and live righteously and so what he did was he put me in a position to where now I can teach people about finances and how to get out of the illegal game and clean their money the right way get their credit on point get into real estate flip houses and live a good stewarded life with money so now I'm taking my cousin's who also drugs all of my cousin's sell drugs is they not playing board selling drugs and if they in jail they're getting out to sell drugs cuz both did to old football so all they know how to do is get money so how do you tell somebody who's been getting money or they like oh so now I must work a regular job like we get paid me gonna take tax on my check and they don't even know where the taxes is going so they just work 40 hours a week they think anybody's get a nice little 500 shekels say 250 they might wait why I'm about to go sell drugs again so now I have to teach them how to get out here in the legal game and let's flip this money the right way and again the taxes that are placed on these businesses can either help us or hurt us and what Trump is doing is helping me teach my cousin's in the hood how to move so that they can give money and not keep busting people upside the head for money or selling drugs to people these people that a continuously living on welfare we're paying for it so the more you're giving them in sports tamps the more you're allowing them to extended their lifestyle in the projects the more money is coming out of my pocket like well as a taxpayer and then now it's hindering my business well now I'm not paying that much taxes I got more money so now if I need to say to whom yo listen I got five racks I'm about to invest this into you so we can start working on your business and if we're gonna let the money circulating once a circle leg you could go out on your own if taxes are taking that money how can I take that five racks and give it to me that's part of my problem with Donald Trump is he's literally making the rich richer and what happens with that poor have to get for it raise your hand if you agree with the statement that I'm about to make the welfare system destroyed the black family absolutely yes yes yes absolutely people who did not raise their hands please tell me why you disagree with that assertion you do not agree with that assertion you know you could it's just and I think the other issue is like nobody's actually talking about like how that system like those systems affirmative-action benefited more white women than it did in about to make a correlation but you know I was going to say is that a lot of these systems that literally have been stereotyped to look like it's black people who benefit the most from them is actually white people who benefit the most from them I was going to when I brought up affirmative action I was bringing it up as a correlation like affirmative action is always sold publicly like it's benefited more black diamond actually is benefited more white women welfare is a system that there are more white people in this country on welfare than black people have benefited from welfare play nice in the sandbox please finish your point yeah so again my point goes back to like when like just like we were saying like with the whole like whether it hurt the black community or whether it helped the black community that's not really the issue the issue is that all these are systems of oppression oppression and all the systems are interconnected and we can't keep looking at these systems that's like oh well this is this one thing and this affects this like even when she was bringing up her paycheck she's like what my paycheck is going to this like yeah but your paycheck is also going to infrastructure your paycheck is also going to Medicaid your paycheck is also going to Medicare your paycheck is also going to Social Security which is what else my grandmother survived your paycheck like you okay but she's told they're gonna play for you can we make up our own money to never get so again what I'm saying is like my point that I'm trying to make is that the systems are interconnected so like you just keep speaking like this system is this and we need to remove this money from this system it's like that's not how that works these systems are all interconnected so it's not like you're just removing something from here and it's not gonna have a chain reaction on the other ways that they're able to oppress us through a different system and I understand all this and and we can have these very academic conversations about systems of oppression and innocent even to be and other things like we can what we really mean is assumption is how do we help the people right what what are the what are the policies that you have seen put forth either by conservative politicians or by our current president that you agree with that you feel are benefiting the black community just forever example we look at trouble you do what it was done with tariffs for the trades yeah we've done that now he's bringing jobs back into the country when you give jobs back into the country you look like unemployment that Louis has been in American history black and up let me say right now so it has benefits not just me but any person that's black yeah how's it not benefit that's Trump has everything a lot think Trump's is done when it comes to jobs economy comes to the stock market I'm investing for a person on my entire life and making a lot of money by the way thank you Darren from for that so I mean and I'm a black man in my black but is there a visible wall that's this wall that says all your black you can invest no I go right through that wall and not invest that's what black can do we stop playing victim and start being a big tour yes for those of us who have a problem with some of the policies that have been offered by conservative politicians or by the city administration I want to ask you a very specific question do you believe that either the sitting president in his administration offer racist policies or that the party that conservative politicians fall under offer racist policies I want to stop calling thing as racist again like that's why I don't talk anymore in like in terms of racism by Toni Morrison said racism zuv distraction she had a very good point also access from doing the actual work we need to do I work in my community I do HIV testing that I got physically work with the people who I talk about like you know to me I don't tell people go pull yourself up by the bootstraps I go by the goddamn boots for them because I have a little bit more privileged than them but when we talk about it I'm talking about anti blackness because this is a global thing and I think that's the part that they were bringing up earlier like we can't just look at like some isolationism just of black Americans or just of this like anti black this is a global thing and it's all interconnected and the problem is like people are like oh we shouldn't talk about the intersections we've never had the ability to talk about the intersections so this is the time that we actually need to start talking about the damn intersections because we've never had that opportunity if they're one we'll say about Donald Trump is that yeah he opened up the floor for conversations so now because now for the first time ever in this country white people feel as necessary now that white people feel oppressed they calling me all the damn time because now they want to know what oppression feel like now they want to know well why'd you get to this because now I'm getting booked and busy all the damn time called white people Philip ran a not used to that a particular part of this country for the first time ever in their whole lives feel just as oppressed as my ass is and we also talked like about like the tax bill cuz you know tell me tell me about that um so my biggest issue was with that tax bill I think recently one of the bigger companies got ten million dollars in like tax benefits and they're gonna donate it but that money belongs to you that money should be for you and all of us and all our family it doesn't belong to the one percent ten percent of America when we talk about white people and the one-percenters in the original us know when we always assume that black people are broke that there are no point people in the one percent of this country that there are no black people that are CEO that there are no point people that are business owners that there are no black people that head and run the corporations that benefit from these people the prism of brokenness and oppression as if the black one-percenters don't exist well we could talk about the exception in the rule right because what you're speaking of is the exception of blacks I need to start actually having real conversations about reparations right and like what reparations actually look like Jewish people receiving reparations right now in this time but you're like no there's not enough time in the day organization people have websites where they've actually created models and thinking about like oh even if you forget the meal right what is actually 40 acres for four black people look like or just recognizing that the trauma and the history that has been affected on black people like I think about like literacy right you can't tell black people for 200 plus years that you can't read and then give them books and be like why aren't you reading why aren't you reading without her address in that trauma right there's things in our talk about those has ever given me is the opportunity to see myself as an individual collective yes all the time and just for me it's just like we're working we're behind people like we're always supposed to be a part of some monolith and collective where we're just supposed to always we have to always compare ourselves to white people for be some but this I feel like I've been to the day I'm Evelyn beating that's all I am and all I know what to do is when that check on that check say my name on it when I read come and said my name on my phone bill dude that's a my name who here was raised in a black Democratic household I want to hear what your reactions are to black voters being synonymous with the Democratic Party well here's the thing the reason that black voters are synonymous with a Democratic Party is because we've been on the receiving end of about 50 years of an onslaught of PR it comes from our entertainers it comes from our ballplayers it comes from our singers it comes from the Democratic politicians who sum up most of which are black and empty but are being used to sell us this idea of the Democratic Party being home of african-american and that is why we vote 90% Democratic now let me tell you something there is not another demographic in the world that votes 9 out of 10 votes for one party why is that still something to be proud of why do we why do we say that we are proud to vote ninety percent of Democrats have to do for us okay gonna get ninety one responsible I think you're kind of essentializing just like black people in general because my perspective of I didn't raise my hand but like I did kind of grow up in a black Democratic household and like my family I came here when I was four from of the Democratic Republic of the Congo in central Africa and like my mom didn't know democratic or Republican she just she just knew policies and she was watching the news and she was seeing what policies benefit benefited her and her three children that she was a single mother so like I think that's definitely essentializing the black community just like you're saying you want it to be an event of individual your kind of not doing that but you know essentialize kneisler I don't have to use the example because 90% of us vote a certain way you know so just you know Lucien thinks of the conversation I have to say well if 90% of us are voting a single way like why is that and to me that's a big driver of why yeah and that's an open yourself up for brainwash for a community as well because political leaders they see you voting that much blindly like that they're gonna lie to you and do whatever that as much groupthink as people assume it is as much as it's harm-reduction so one of the things that I often talk about because I'm not Republican I'm not a Democrat I'm just black and I'm George yes yes I talk about what we need to do in our communities right local level macro level micro level right because that's really where it stars voting isn't the beginning voting isn't the ending voting is just a tool in the toolbox that whole toolbox includes us as black people when we do get money and when we do get on and when we do get these things going back and bringing other people along with us not on them because they couldn't pull themselves up by bootstraps again like I always talk about that whole bootstrap argument because some people don't have boots so it's like when you're telling people they can pull themselves out of somewhere some people don't even have anything to pull from what is it about conservative politics that have convinced you that either the Republican Party or conservative politicians of your best interests in mind as black people in America my biggest thing is this I feel like a lot of conservatives they just want to mind their business they want they want to get their hands out of your pot and have you do what they did figure themselves out and I want to go back to student loans because I pay student loans okay I went to school for fashion marketing the merchandizing did not use them use the degree at all it threw the way and I got all this money to pay back so now every month I pay my bills on time every push them on credit and because I paid on time I got good credit you know I'm saying so I'm still able to utilize my credit to go further so for me I'm just asking for the government to make better policies for me to pay back my loans what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna work my business and when I got the money I need I'm gonna pay it off and then went up let me let me answer though and then when I get the chance and I make that money for my kid it's if my kids choose to go to college me as a parent that's my responsibility to make sure that I pay for the education or ship so cuz my kids don't have to go to college if they want our own businesses they can own businesses if they want to get the education they can get you their education and work for their brothers sister who owns a business so my reality is this how is it that the government keep having and keep having to pay back stuff that's our choice in the first place everybody putting no gun and nobody had making nobody go to school you trade if you want to go be a doctor a lawyer you could do that or if you want to be an entrepreneur you can do that it's still a choice shame the people don't go to college people who who to be successful in this country you have to get a degree you have to speak English right and I'm gonna be successful in this country if you don't do that then you walk mounted and gonna make a strong point because I agree with exactly what you said is that we tell people in this country of that thing if they don't have a college degree and that is the biggest lie that we tell to people instead of a huge lie that we told a black kids that they are nothing without a college degree because you want to talk about student loan debt I got student loan debt you got to load that she got students to do that so what we're doing is we're telling these kids that they are nothing unless they have this degree which is virtually worthless okay at a certain point what we need to start telling our you to do is to build businesses like you don't need a degree to do that and we have a system that is putting these kids putting this idea in their mind that they need this degree to be worth something and making them indebted to the government at the same solution or shipping capital or just have to lose some of us within the next like 15 ish minutes so I want to like move along we're gonna go into overdrive here who here believes that the black vote should be courted more well than there yep of course so for those of you didn't raise your hands why why did you not why do you think I don't trust when they start courting us like I'm always like oh god what do they want what are they trying to do they haven't really helped us before what do you want us to do now and then we're gonna be left with nothing a person has to serve the majority so if we talk a high level politics no matter who you vote for the majority of this country ain't me it doesn't look like me so it's never going to be anybody who's going to do anything that's going to make a movement and a needle on that type of level now if you want to talk about micro level politics and councilman's and sitting on the student board who's sitting as the mayor now we could talk about that all day I strongly agree with him when he says that we don't talk enough about local so that's where I'm at I think that the the best thing that we can do in terms of thing about advocacy is how do we set up certain policy and legislation to keep those people accountable right like we need to be critical of both sides and thinking how people actually know what's on the ballot like one of the propositions that are happening because I don't think both sides are educating our people properly at all that's true I would like to say like this whole conversation listening to everybody some things I do disagree with some we are but I agree with a lot of the entrepreneurship thing like I'm investment I think that we all want the same things everybody wants a boot we all want boots some of us want more boots than others and I think we need to figure out how do we get there together how do we work together to get what we yeah which is the same thing yeah you know I think we have different ways of getting there no I mean we're good that's it guys I appreciate signing a picture [Music] [Applause]

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Length: 38min 44sec (2324 seconds)

Published: Sun Mar 03 2019

Reddit Comments

[u/TonyNis]

So the conservatives where the well spoken educated ones, and the liberals where the emotional ones that didnt make a single valid point.

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typical..

[u/YOUREABOT]

It’s interesting how the lefts view is based of mostly emotions, and the conservatives view is based of mostly logic/facts. I’m not exclusively on either side, I think it’s important to have a bit of both.

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Uh oh Vice did an oopsie.

[u/Supreme_Dear_Leader]

Leftists think they want socialism but if they got it they would be miserable. If I wanted to watch a toddler tantrum I can go visit my 1 year old nephew.

[u/UltraconservativeBap]

I’m only half way through but there is so much to talk about here. This is really good I’m actually shocked vice put this out.

[u/Ovedya2011]

I counted 4 conservatives and 5 liberals.

[u/Politicalcal]

Logic for the win

[u/UndercoverGovernor]

When I saw this was Vice I didn’t plan to click. Are they trying to make journalism a thing again?

[u/Piratesfan02]

This was a great video! I think they did a good job, but I wanted to hear the dude in the front left talk more.