Ben Shapiro Obliterates Every Pro-Abortion Argument (Send This To Your Pro-Choice Friends)

how do you defend your opinion as a white well religious man how do you defend your hat like telling a woman what she can do with because illegal things are source evil even if I'm a white well-off religious man and good things are so good this is one of these identity politics points that I really I mean I don't mean to come down harshly on you I don't but it is a point that I really have serious moral qualms with I think it's quite quite terrible the reason being that the people who were fighting against enslavement of black people were a bunch of well-off white men for the most part right and those people were saying this is a moral sin this is a moral blot they weren't living in the south they didn't know implantations they didn't live the lives of the plantation owners they said this is evil and we are here to stop it right when you see something that you think is morally wrong happening especially when you're talking about the taking of a human life egg listen I think that I think that you shouldn't go around randomly killing homeless people I just have this view I'm not a homeless person most of the people who randomly kill homeless people are probably not of my economic strata my religious view or my I don't know whether they're of my skin color or not I have no idea what the what the actual sociological breakdown of homeless killer serial murderers is but but I would suggest that my identity has nothing to do with what is right or wrong and this is what Western civilization used to be about Western civilization used to be about the idea that yes I'm not a woman in the health care field but you and I can have a conversation about what's right and wrong because this is the nature of human reason the nature of human reason the nature of right and wrong is that you and I can talk about what's right and wrong and that I don't retreat into my identity if we can all retreat into our identity and our morality is now centered around that identity morality doesn't exist at all we break down into a society of fragmented atoms where I can't even say like you're torturing a puppy in your backyard I have nothing to say about that I'm not a white woman who's in the health care field I'm not going to do that I don't I don't I refuse to surrender the idea that I can have a moral stance on issues that are of concern to society and of concern to the to the well-being of the United States simply because of the color of my skin or the nature of my genitalia and honestly I believe any of you that feels differently is sexist racist and bigoted so I have an issue with your stance on abortion okay alright so you define life as starting at conception through biology pretty right pretty much but I think you take the stance that life isn't tinkly valuable because it's life and that's where I disagree I think there's two things that make life valuable I think consciousness the ability to experience paying senses and stuff like that and personal identity in particular psychological continuity identity so the fact that we have memories we have a relationship see both relationships to us I think what's repeating both of those who's hidden either/or I just wanted either/or okay so it's either/or then people with Alzheimer's have real continuity problems you can't kill them no because people still have relationships with thumbs oh right so like just love like I mean you have a relationship with them but with people with advanced stage Alzheimer's they really don't have relate for this single example like let's say someone dies right the family gets to decide what you do with the body because I know what you say when you say someone says oh just consciousness and then they're brain-dead you say well can you stab them no you can't because that's the family's decision what you do at the body it's the person's decision what the family decides to stab them it's okay to stab the when they're brave good yeah they want them no not not brain-dead let's say that you're comatose for a for a specifically and predictably short period of time say nine months say that well what is the person [Applause] I saw so so I would say on the legal grounds it would depend if a person put in their will that's a person has made clear statements like hey don't pull the plug on nine months then don't do that because I think the first choice is right let's say the person has not made such clear statements say the person can't make such clear statements so that he's just in a complete coma that let's say the person has not drawn up a living will or had conversations like this they go there the car crash again you know that nine months they're gonna come out of the coma and they're going to be fine are you allowed to stab a felony you know I waited for these nine months there stabbed the dude or their place or go to get their memories back um let's say they don't get their memories back then I would say then that person is dead and yeah if the family wants to pull the plug that's fine I'd have no problem without it ya know I would have no problem with that because I don't like because that / that person to get is IC territory did no I having that person convicted right and that's the best way to define life is personal identity and consciousness that's what makes life right so I think that again if you were to say both that's too much and if you even say either I don't think either one of those legs stands on its own okay because what you really mean that this is the thing about having a baby it's a process of development and this is the point that I'm making there's a period in this human life when that child does not have or fetus or embryo whatever gonna call it when this living thing does not have consciousness and does not have a sense of identity but in nine months it will have consciousness well babies babies don't have a sense of identity for at least for at least a certain number of months after they're born babies the babies can recognize their parents as voices after their but that's not a sense of identity rats can I say it is it's no it's a form of memory though by that's what I was known re it's are you a Janus because animals also have a conscious no yeah no I always say that killing animals is wrong you have no problem with that so just to get this straight killing killing fluffy the hamster deeply wrong killing a dude who wakes up from a coke who's going to wake up from a coma in nine months with memory problems totally cool [Applause] okay I mean I'm just a sexual decisions and I'm sorry I mean I don't think that I don't see why you know the unsuccessful decision made the decisions out of wedlock and then get pregnant out of wedlock as Susan's not alleviated since you're gonna say others are forced to be parents should you then also in sight like walls or something like that you can of course do so anything that works well I agree with you Morgan is an exception in there very simply if you believe is you doing merrily and that's nothing in there okay so you can only listen you're not know if your brain is functioning but you can breathe on you no you're not because you see in your life again the bottom line is this if you are defining whether something is a life or not based on your own convenience that is the nature of evil it's a finding what a human being or not whether something is a human being or not based on whether you want [Music] all right so they're all about free speech but you know since conservatives get you know we mesh when we talk about sex is god forbid we all do it it's a natural function you know what defines you know a life or whatever so scientifically speaking you consider steam in life so I'm pretty sure that you probably masturbate a lot cuz you're a human being I believe like I asked you most and su most people be able to work in that light it begins at conception and sperm e-tag and and the child was conceived that's what my opinion finally how can you honestly stand up here and say that you support abortion you support government intervention excuse me you support government intervention to make abortion illegal which is designed to kill someone and yet you can stand up here and say you don't want government intervention for guns which are also designed to kill people because guns are not designed to kill children guns are designed to kill bad guys if operated by a proper person there's not an abortion in the world that doesn't end with the death of a baby [Applause] so honestly the reason so I have I have so I I have no problem with looking at the pictures of gun violence victims other than the problems any other human being left or right would have with looking at those pictures which is that they're horrific and deeply disturbing and very upsetting but I don't feel any sense of guilt or avoidance like I can't look at this picture because I bear some sort of responsibility for this it is impossible not to look at a picture of an aborted baby and say this was disconnected from the acts that I approve because the act is the killing of the baby there's no there's no policy that I approve of that ends with the murder of children okay there is a policy that is designed for the murder of children which is what abortion is okay so but if all people right you said that once the cells come together you say those are considered people which I can understand I said that's considered human life human life yes why is this human life being killed in another human life being killed by gun violence why is that any different again it's not a matter of the value of the human life being different it's it's equally as evil and and tragic and horrific and disgusting when people kill fully formed children who are outside the womb my points that the axe that connects to the killing of the children is not connected to my position on guns the act that connects to the killing of unborn babies is connected to the legalization of abortion the reason that I want people to be able to exercise their second Amendment rights is to shoot pieces like the people who go into scale like the people who go into schools and shoot up children both my I have two kids they both go to a Jewish school which means they are on the target list for somebody out there right Jewish schools Jewish schools are disproportionately targeted unfortunately in the United States I went to a Jewish school when I was in high school there were bomb threats legitimately every couple of months there in 1999 there was a white supremacist who drove by our Jewish day schools saw an armed guard outside proceeded to drive away went to the West Valley JCC and shot up the West Valley JCC the reason that I'm in favor of gun rights is because I want that armed guard outside carrying the gun to dissuade people from going inside the school and shooting the kid the first states legalize abortion in case of a princess was Colorado in 1967 Hawaii followed in 1970 we can reasonably assume that there were abortions before then so if we went back to a world where abortion was illegal how do we deal with the black market how do you what do you think where negative consequences would be of an increased amount of illegal abortions and would we prosecute both the mother and the doctor or just one how would we handle it so the answer to the question is that there's no major pro-life voice in America who advocates for prosecuting the mother the reason that people don't advocate for prosecuting the mother is number one because it is counterproductive because your goal is to convince women that they shouldn't abort their babies not to threaten them with punishment you want to make you want them to make the moral choice you want to basically honey is going to win people over more than vinegar but beyond that I think that there is a real problem of mens rea a' meaning that when you're talking about intent to commit a crime you actually have to have an intent to commit the crime so if I'm gonna commit homicide upon you then I have to know that you are a human being for example I think that a lot of women have been made to believe for wrong reasons that what they are killing is not actually a human being and so they lack the requisite mens rea a' for a homicide charge even if you were to try and game it out legally mostly what people on the pro-life side have talked about is prosecuting abortion doctors who make an actual business out of out of aborting babies as to the increase in illegal abortions I would assume there would be an increase in illegal abortions because all abortions would be illegal and just logically speaking anytime you make something illegal that occurs there will be more illegal instances of that thing happening and I'm sure that you know when when slavery was legal then you know it was legal that didn't make it either moral decent or right once it was made illegal then I'm sure that everyone who was holding a slave was in violation of the law you know so I guess there were more illegal holdings of slaves after we made slavery illegal but there was less absolute slavery which is the actual goal you would holding a slave doesn't kill the slave and doesn't possibly kill the mother I don't think you want to go down the road where you're justifying slavery no I know I mean I'm no I'm not justifying slavery I'm saying that making something that the fact that something increases when you make it illegal is the illegal activity is the activity at the absolute level of the activity decreases but what's left is going to be illegal just by logical necessity when the illegal activity that's left is very very dangerous that's is that a good argument what do you think that's a good argument or not a good argument yes if I have to wait let's let's say that you make abortion illegal and there are a million abortions a year in the United States and let's say at the high end let's say at the high end there are still fifty thousand illegal abortions in the United States but all the rest go to term okay let's say that that's the case because it's gonna be hard to actually get an abortion if it's made illegal let's say there's still 50 thousand you just saved nine hundred and fifty thousand lives that is a that is a massive net win obviously John Oliver was ripping on Donald Trump the other day is it some awards ceremony and because he's British that means we're supposed to pay attention to him even though we fought a revolution so he wouldn't have to pay attention to the Brits here's here's John Oliver talking about abortion and in terms of the communication about reproductive rights and the conversation that is so important we really did potentially hit a nadir in the modern era during that third debate because his discussion of late term abortions showed no real understanding of how abortions work no clear understanding of the basic biology of women's bodies and a very poor sense of grammar as well so I guess we got in a sense what we were asking for if you ask Donald Trump to draw a fallopian tube I cannot imagine what you would get back other than a child's drawing of a cobra okay and I wouldn't hesitate to ask John Oliver to draw a fallopian tube or describe any of the biology here because he obviously doesn't know now look I criticized Trump for being ignorant about how he described abortion because he wasn't graphic enough but let me for those who missed it explain what exactly happens in a late-term abortion which is what he was talking about okay what happens in a late-term abortion what happens in a late abortion is something completely awful this is according to American pregnancy org okay not a right-wing pro-life website American pregnancy org quote the fetus is rotated forceps are used to grasp and pull the legs shoulders and arms through the birth canal a small incision is made at the base of the skull to allow a suction catheter inside the catheter removes the cerebral material that be the brains until the skull collapses the fetus is then completely removed hey that's one procedure that's used that's dilation and extraction okay and in late term abortions it's usually one of these two dilation and evacuation or dilation and extraction dilation and evacuation the baby may be given a lethal injection to kill it sometimes they don't use such injections then the doctor uses a curette or a forceps to carve up the child's body in the womb and remove it piece by piece so I guess that Donald Trump could have been more graphic I don't know the Chyna Oliver would have enjoyed that but he could have been more graphic I suppose but this is what they do they that laughing upike he comes raw fallopian tube okay John draw an abortion really drawn what's it I want to see you get down there with a piece of paper and I want you to draw me what you think an abortion looks like it's not waving a magic wand and it's not getting rid of a cluster of cells that mean nothing I want you to sit there and draw what it looks like when a baby is cut into pieces and removed from the womb I would like to see that but of course he'll never do that other than it might look like a cobra might look like a cobra maybe it'll look like a princess waving her fairy magic wand and a unicorn emerges from the vagina the fact that he thinks his accent covers for his basic ignorance of biology and his euphemistic willingness to ignore what amounts to child killing is absolutely ridiculous and despicable why exactly do you think a first trimester fetus has moral value okay so a first trimester fetus has moral value because whether you consider it a potential human life or a full-on human life it has more value than just a cluster of cells if left to its natural processes it will grow into a baby so the real question is where do you draw the line so you can draw the line at the heartbeat because it's very hard to draw the line at the heartbeat there are people who are adults who are alive because of a pacemaker they need some sort of outside force generating their heartbeat okay you're gonna do it based on brain function okay well what about people who are in a coma should we just kill them right the problem is anytime you draw any line other than the inception of the child you end up drawing a false line that can also be applied to people who are adult so either human life has intrinsic value or it doesn't I think we both agree that adults human light has intrinsic value can we start from that premise I believe that sentience has is what gives something moral value not necessarily not necessarily being a human alone okay so when you're so when you're asleep can I stab you I'm still considered sentient when I'm asleep okay if you are in a coma from which you may awake can I stab you well then no because I have no interest in action all right so that's still potential sentence and it's still a potential you know this potential sentience being a fetus the issue I have with that though is that in me if I'm in a coma and I'm not like doing anything to anyone I'm not causing any issues amongst the world whereas an unwanted child may or may not be a burden to people of people's parents who are unwanted right we're bunch of college students you know the problem is that now it's an era shifting the argument right before you were making the argument based on the intrinsic value of a life based on sentience and now you're talking about the level of burden that somebody presents as a separate moral arguments okay I don't believe that you being a burden on somebody is justification for them killing you as a general rule here's Olivia Wilde who's the actress most famous from being in house and and here she is talking about why she is in favor of abortion this is one of the more disgusting videos I've ever seen this election cycle I'm thinking a lot about reproductive rights everyone's right to plan when they want to have a family and it's on my mind because I'm literally about to have a baby like in a minute to be able to decide okay so she says that she's thinking about reproductive rights one minute from having a baby this is about as perverse a notion as I could possibly imagine that as you're about to have your child you're thinking boy wouldn't it be great if I could still kill this thing it's really imperative that I'd be able to still kill this thing you know Here I am look how pregnant I am there's a baby in here this is my beautiful child and I was thinking maybe I should just kill it you know maybe it's really important that women be able to kill it anytime they please she continues along these lines not of course understanding really what she's saying on a moral level how and when and why and where I want to have a baby and I believe that is a basic human right I care about reproductive rights what do you care about if you care about your future go for it okay what I care about is not killing babies and let me let me this is going to be mildly graphic but this is important because I'm sick of the euphemisms okay it's not aborting a fetus it's not getting rid of a ball of tissues a ball of tissue okay this is this what I'm about to show you right now is a picture of a baby okay this is a baby that was that was it was a it was a picture of a baby that was aborted by Kermit Gosnell okay this is the Gosnell was it was somebody who was not covered by the media in any way shape or form he was the most prolific serial killer probably in American history and this was a baby girl aborted by aborted by Kermit Gosnell and he and the only question was whether it was legal for him to kill this baby or not and the only question there was how old was the baby and was the abortion done inside the womb or outside the womb okay so this baby I believe was after the 24 we cut off but not by much so this is this baby is let's see how old this baby is this is a case where where they an abortion went awry she went to hospital and the baby ended up dying at the hospital by 24 weeks most babies born prematurely will survive this is a late term abortion okay this is what her baby looks like in the loneliness a picture again that's what that baby looks like no this is a less graphic picture of what an abortion looks like a more graphic picture of what abortion looks like involves the snipping off of the the crushing of the skull the sucking out of the brains it involves and these are fully formed children these are fully formed children I have two beautiful children the idea that you get to murder a kid okay no one has a right to choose that picture go back to the other one no one has a right to choose this no one no one has a right to choose this you don't have a right to choose this okay that's a baby you don't get to kill it just because it's convenient to you you're never right to say I it's my decision where and and how to have the baby that's an individual human being and if that baby were outside the womb and you stuck a knife through its chest you'd be charged with first-degree murder you kill it in the womb and we call it a human right that's not a human right because that's a human that human doesn't have any rights because you just decided it's rights are less important than your right to your own convenience despicable despicable and so I want to we're now going to play a game with the left let's play let's play a little game with the left the game goes like this okay show the other image the game goes like this at which point should you be able to kill this baby okay we're going to play a game called when should you be able to kill this baby because I've been told by people like Hillary Clinton that you're able to kill this baby all the way up to the very end right 32 to 30 weeks right and that's when the baby is fully formed it can be born alive it is a fully formed human being I've watched two of them come out of my wife these are human beings these are not balls of tissue these are not clusters of cells and I'm sick of being told that it's just an abortion I don't like the euphemisms it's not a termination of a pregnancy it's a termination of a human life okay it's a murder of a human being when you're talking about these babies and and this idea that you get to choose that look you got to choose a lot of things in life you don't get to choose another human beings death that's not something you get to choose so when is it okay to kill this when is it okay to kill this is it okay to kill this thing at week 14 when the heart is pumping several quarts of blood through the body every day how about week 15 when the baby has an adult's taste buds how about month four when the bone marrow is beginning to form how about that all right how about that how about weeks nine and 10 when the baby's teeth are already beginning to form its fingernails are already getting to develop we're talking about 2 months old right the baby can turn in the head and frown the baby can hiccup is that ok to kill how about week 4 by the end of the week for the the kid is already 10,000 times larger than the fertilized eggs was there's already the beginnings of eyes and legs and hands they're already brain waves detectable mouth and lips are present fingernails are forming how about week 3 by the end of the third week the kid's backbone and spinal column and nervous system are forming the liver and kidneys and intestines are beginning to take shape how about day 22 the heart's already beating with the child's blood which may be of a different blood type than the mother so we're in here exactly do you think it's okay to murder that kid because you have a personal convenience issue where do you think that your and I love I love the glowing way she presents us here I am I can't be a bad woman because I'm pregnant I can't hate babies I mean Here I am I'm pregnant well if you don't hate babies or if you if you're not interested in killing them then why are you in favor of people being allowed to kill them it's not a matter of a woman's right to choose a slave-owner didn't get to choose to hold slaves Nazis didn't get to decide which Jews got to live and don't give me the it's legal therefore it's okay lots of things were legal lots of things in human history have been legal that we're totally evil it is evil to suggest as Hillary Clinton does that the minute before a baby is born you should be able to drag it by the feet out of the mother except for the head stick a scissors in there Ram it into the baby's skull rip the skull open suck the brains out crushing it and then pull it out that's hella the Hilary believes that that's something you should be allowed to do when I talk about stuff I hate this is a grave sin it's a blot on the American Republic it's a blot on the morality of the American people that we allow that we treat the killing of unlit erally the most innocent among us literally the most innocent among us we treat the killing of these human beings as nothing more than just an issue of convenience and choice and and all the rest of it it's just no more euphemisms no more euphemisms and I wish to God that Mike Pence would have said that instead of citing to the Bible okay I haven't cited the Bible one time because I don't think that the Bible and I think the Bible is right but I don't think the Bible is the important textbook here I think what's important here is the science and I think you're talking about the creation of a unique human life on day one and you can see it and you can see the growth and if you're willing to point out to me where it is that this becomes a human as opposed to a ball of tissue then let's hear it let's hear I've gotten tweets by the way I tweeted this out earlier and somebody said well the brain waves only started week 20 so how about that you know what do you think that people who are brain dead are alive well people who are brain dead don't turn into not brain dead for three weeks later would you kill somebody in a coma because the brain dead but you know they're not gonna be brain dead in four weeks in ten weeks what you do that would pull the plug on them knowing for a full on fact if you just wait a few weeks that person's gonna be fully functional again would you do that and it's just it's it's it's truly incredible to me the way that we can blind ourselves to this I remember why I was at the I was at the 2012 DNC and and I went to you know was in Charlotte and I walked past an exhibit and it was pictures is the is the anti-abortion crowd the pro-life crowd and they were out there with with these pictures of aborted babies and I walked past and I thought what most people from big cities thought I thought wow how gauche how gauche I mean those are ugly pictures should I really have to look at that in the public square that's really ugly and then I realized that that's probably how people treated pictures of slavery back in 1850s that's probably how people treated pictures of a Holocaust back in the 1940s the bottom line is if it's that ugly maybe you should do something about it instead of whining about how ugly it is and it's not a matter of personal choice okay I have a stake in whether my neighbor gets murdered and I have a stake and whether my neighbor's baby gets murdered too I mean this is a long conversation I'm enjoying it actually which is why I'm allowing you to stay but it's it but it's it but the the question of rape and incest first of all important to note rape and incest are not only a vast minority of abortion cases they're an extraordinarily low percentage of abortion cases so if we can first stipulate that all the other abortions are bad then we can talk about that other one can we do that are all the other abortions bad are those ones okay and you're just using this as an excuse to make the other ones okay ah good someone who's honest so who's the honest fellow who's okay yeah honest people good I like the honesty okay so all abortions are okay so does the so the so Oh a sign that I can't read because it has lots of words on it okay so I have one question for you and one question only on abortion does the vagina the the vaginal canal magically confer personhood answer does the vagina magically confirm personhood yeah raised hands are okay you sir you know the first breath does the first breath confers personhood okay so if the baby is in the womb and is exactly the same size and has not yet breathed and you take a knife and you stabbed the baby in the head a fully formed nine month old baby it is not a human the only thing that makes it a human is when it takes a breath it has two independently bring I mean I'm gonna be honest I'm gonna stick to a cap because I'm also pro capital punishment and prose selective suicide so I'm gonna stick with selective suicide yeah I assume you know I sent me an elective suicide I'm not gonna come make some that's good cuz that wouldn't be suicide that'd be homicide so so that by the way I'm for capital punishment too because people who kill people should be killed but babies who have not killed people should not and this is my basic position on abortion so let me just it so but I'll get your answer cuz you the one who asked the question are you willing to stipulate that all the other abortions are bad just rape and incest bother you so that's an excuse right so it's an excuse that we can say that as so that we can we can take the marginal case and then say that the marginal case applies to all cases okay that's that's again faulty thinking but if you want me to answer specifically on rape and incest here is my basic answer rapists should be castrated or killed you shouldn't kill babies end of story I agree and that's usually the left side of the aisle because the left side wants to let them out after five years in prison I want them castrated or killed I'm telling you what my belief is my belief is not public policy at the moment but I think would you agree with me on that one can we least get a little agreement to finish this particular parlay okay you should rape us be castrated killed oh okay good yeah okay we agree Thanks thank you for tuning in to the daily wire one of the fastest growing conservative media outlets in the country if you enjoyed this video be sure to give it a like and subscribe to our YouTube channel so you don't miss out on any of our content

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Published: Sat Nov 23 2019