Ben Shapiro DESTROYS Transgenderism And Pro-Abortion Arguments

so how do you say that some people don't have the privilege when you basically just said that trans people aren't valid they're not a thing they're just girls pretending to be boys or boys for any girls okay that's always exciting completely different okay no gender is not disconnected from sex so it's not completely disconnected but it's still a cultural thing it's still from society okay no it is not in the mind okay you're not a man if you think you're a man and i didn't say pretending or if i did i shouldn't have said pretending let me imagine okay i said a boy who thinks he's a girl that's the usual phraseology i use not playing i usually say a boy who thinks he's a girl or girl who thinks he's a boy which is technically what we're talking about here as far as the actual psychological issues at play it used to be called gender dysphoria or gender identity disorder now they call gender dysphoria the idea that that sex or gender are malleable is not true okay and i'm not denying your humanity if you're a transgender person i am saying that you are not the sex to which you claim to be you're still a human being and you're a human being with an issue that i'm you know i wish you godspeed in in dealing with in whatever way you see fit but if you are going to dictate to me that i'm supposed to pretend i'm supposed to pretend that men are women and women are men no my answer is no i'm not going to i'm not going to modify basic biology because it threatens your subjective sense of what you are okay but you're still saying these kids should like not be accepted because they don't really fit into either place they can't just like i'm saying that the boy scouts have a standard you must be a biological boy to be a boy scout you have to be a boy to be a boy scout in the name boy scouts because because it because this is because this is a a very okay because for all of human history boy meant boy and girl meant girl boy did not mean and if i call you a moose are you suddenly a moose okay if i redefine our terms no it's a yes that's right men and women are a completely different thing this is true have you ever met a man or a woman they're completely different i don't understand why okay let me ask you this hell okay i won't ask you how old i will ask you how old you are okay because you're young enough that it's probably not insulting to ask you so i'm probably naive right no why aren't you 60 why aren't you 60. why can't you identify as 60. why what what is the problem with you identifying as 60. you're right age is significantly less important than gender you can't magically change your gender you can't magically change your sex you can't magically change your age you so deeply change it people recognize you can't legally change your age by the way obviously you can change your name you can change your sex you can change your ideas just because you can do things legally doesn't mean that they are correct biologically you could do lots of things in the past that were incorrect biologically and correct legally for a long period of time in the united states sterilization of the mentally ill took place that didn't make it okay skinner versus oklahoma justice oliver wendell holmes wrote the decision it's not a matter of open mind and accepting i want them to get treatment that they see fit but that's not involving the the idea behind the transgender movement as a civil rights movement is the idea that all of their problems would just go away if i would pretend that they were the sex to which they claim the to which they claim membership that's nonsense the transgender suicide rate is forty percent it is forty percent and according to according to the anderson school ucla it makes no difference there's a study that came out last year it makes no difference virtually no different statistically speaking as to whether people recognize you as a transgender person or not which suggests there's a very high comorbidity between transgenderism whatever that mental state may be and suicidality that has nothing to do with how society treats you no i don't think that i do not think that the discrepancy i do not think the discrepancy first of all i'm against bullying of any sort okay the idea that somebody would beat somebody up is terrible okay as somebody who's viciously bullied in high school i'm not a fan of bullying but the idea that the the normal suicide rate across the united states is four percent the suicide rate in the transgender community is 40 the idea that 36 percent more transgender people are committing suicide because people are mean to them is ridiculous it's not true and it's not backed by any science that anyone can cite it is pure conjecture in fact it's not even true bullying causes suicide according to a lot of studies the for example in the black community where the idea is supposedly that america's a racist society blacks are bullied a lot okay in the black community black men have significantly lower suicide rates than in the white community in fact in third world countries the suicide rate is significantly lower than in first world countries suicide actually seems to be a privilege of the upper classes if you actually look at it from a financial perspective so the idea that suicidality is directly a result of people like me saying no men are not women and women are not men it's it's it's not true it's also do you think it doesn't impact their identity at all or their depression or how they feel about themselves i think the idea that you're going to sacrifice the entire society's proper definition of sex because you think that there is a in legal terms somebody with an eggshell skull meaning that somebody who has a pre-existing condition that makes them more susceptible to criticism that that is not a way to run a society you can't sacrifice truth because some people are going to actually suffer because of the truth plus there's no evidence whatsoever that the suicide rate would go down in the transgender community in any marked way if people just started pretending that men were women and women were men we're trying that experiment now we'll find out whether it works so far no evidence have you talked to a group of trans people at all instead of this group of like white people i'm more than happy to talk to a group of any people who will have me but usually they protest me okay last question about your planned parenthood thing um so why do you think it's not about people in women's bodies and just about the separate life like after the baby is born how come people don't care about them they don't care where to end up in foster care they don't care about the mother being poor okay i do care about the mother being poor i do care about foster care okay why don't you have to pay for that to prevent though because well planned parenthood doesn't prevent abortions they perform hundreds of thousands of abortions a year they perform 300 000 abortions a year they're leading abortions in the united states for that though that they perform 300 000 abortions a year from planned parenthood that's my evidence they don't dispute that no one disputes that like birth control and i'm not anti-birth control birth control is extraordinarily cheap that provides affordable birth control okay they're not the only people in america who provide affordable birth control you can go get a pack of condoms down at the local cbs for 12 bucks yes and it's true that most forms of birth control are also extraordinarily cheap on an annualized basis unless you have a severe problem vote most birth control is very cheap and readily available and i'm not against people going and getting that from planned parenthood as you may have noticed i'm mostly against abortion if you want to go to planned parenthood and get a contraceptive go for it i don't care i do care when you start killing babies this is a problem for me situations okay so this is okay so here's the question i mean this is a long conversation i'm enjoying it actually which is why i'm allowing you to stay but but it's but the question of rape and incest first of all important to know rape and incest are not only a vast minority of of abortion cases they're an extraordinarily low percentage of abortion cases so if we can first stipulate that all the other abortions are bad then we can talk about that other one can we do that are all the other abortions bad are those ones okay and you're just using this as an excuse to make the other ones okay you're all okay ah good someone who's honest so who's the honest fellow who's who's okay yay honest people good i like the honesty okay so all abortions are okay so does the so the so oh a sign that i can't read because it has lots of words on it okay so i have one question for you and one question only on abortion does the vagina the the vaginal canal magically confer personhood answer does the vagina magically confer personhood yeah raised hands are okay you sir no the first breath does the first breath confirms personhood okay so if the baby is in the womb and is exactly the same size and has not yet breathed and you take a knife and you stab the baby in the head a fully formed nine-month-old baby it is not a human the only thing that makes it a human is when it takes a breath it has to independently breathe i mean i'm going to be honest i'm going to stick to it yeah because i'm also pro-capital punishment and pro-selective suicide so i'm going to stick with it selective suicide yeah i assume you i assume you mean elective suicide that's good because that wouldn't be suicide that'd be homicide uh so so uh that that by the way i'm for capital punishment too because people who kill people should be killed but babies who have not killed people should not this is my basic position on abortion so let me just so but i'll get your answer because you're the one who asked the question are you willing to stipulate that all the other abortions are bad just rape and incest bother you i mean no i believe a woman's job right so it's an excuse right so it's an excuse that we can say that so that we can we can take the marginal case and then say that the marginal case applies to all cases okay that's that's again faulty thinking but if you want me to answer specifically on rape and incest here's my basic answer rapists should be castrated or killed you shouldn't kill babies end of story but are they ever castrated killed most rapes don't even get convicted i agree and that's usually the left side of the aisle because left side wants to let them out after five years in prison i want them castrated or killed i'm telling you what my belief is my belief is not public policy at the moment but i think would you agree with me on that one can we at least get a little agreement to finish this particular parlay okay you should rapist be castrated or killed well yes okay good yeah okay we agree nice

Channel: DailyWire+

Views: 8,734,194

Keywords: transgender, transgenderism, ben shapiro, abortion, transgenders, trans, transgender rights, gender, transgender woman, transgender pregnancy, transgender community, transition, transgender mtf, transgender ban, transgender man, am i transgender, transgender girl, transgender news, transgender women, trump transgender, transgender child, transgender model, what is transgender, transgender people, transgender actors, famous transgender, transgender parents

Id: gkONHNXGfaM

Length: 10min 5sec (605 seconds)

Published: Thu Feb 09 2017