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(soft somber classical music) - Anybody, is this your first day of prison? Second day maybe, like you don't know what's going on? Right. I believe in the ability of a person to change. You have to want to be a better sister, wife, mom. You have to admit this place is different. - [Gregg] Historically, prison's simply lock people down and keep the inmates quiet. - You need to calm down. - For women, it simply doesn't work. (tense electronic music) We're gonna be transitioning several hundred inmates into a completely and innovative prisons. - The idea was to try to provide a place where an inmate can come and try and learn something, learn a skill. - I've never been so happy to be in prison. (energetic electronic music) - [Officer] Every one of these women are gonna get out. - [CO] Roll out ladies, let's roll out. - [Officer] Did we do the best job we possibly could to make them better citizens? - Bye, bye. - [Inmates] Bye! - It will be a whole new world for us and the inmate. - Hating this little lame ass place. - It's a matter of time before they start fighting. - (beep) you. - (beep) you, bitch. - [Inmate] Give us this much freedom, we bound to get in trouble. - Dude, for real. This is a set up. - [Inmate] Substance abuse is a big issue. - Some girls come they're just gay for the stay. Some girls come gay from the street to here. - She said the more they tap it, the (beep) higher her butt cheeks go. - I got into about 14 fights in the last year and a half. - (beep) talking (beep). Don't make me go over there and whup that bitch's ass too. - [Man] There are those already that we know that are trying to test us. - (beep) this place and (beep) the warden. He's whack. - She's (beep) retarded. - [Inmate] It's the same mission. Power, respect, money. - You know how we do (beep). It's our way or no way. - This is a very risky undertaking but we have no choice at this moment, to do the right thing. (low tense instrumental music) (helicopter blades chopping) (energetic electronic music) - [Officer in radio] They are in route. (indistinct radio chatter) - Across the nation, there are several states experiencing a population crisis with females coming to prison. - Careful, and careful. - What we're seeing in America, there are more women coming to prison for longer prison sentences. - [Inmate] They're gonna unrestrain you and then you go and sit at the bleachers, okay? - We absolutely, in New Mexico also experienced a significant and dramatic increase in our female population. That we cannot approach in the same way that we have traditionally. - [Man] 1 12. - If I don't get my stuff like, that's (beep). - Our approaches to correctional programming for many many years have been simply lock people down, keeping inmates quiet. - You need to calm down. - And then releasing people straight into our neighborhoods. What we found, for women, is that it simply doesn't work. Now historically, all of our female inmates assigned to the prison system are held within a private prison institution. Locked up in that manner. - I'm gonna spend 23 years here, in this cell. - Yeah, it sucks. - If we are to succeed, we got to do our best to design the prison experience to be as closely related to what the worlds gonna look like when they're released. - First 12. - [Inmate] Stay in order. Keep them like that. - Springer was built and designed not so much as a prison but a secured learning environment. Where we have this campus that has provided us the most remarkable opportunity that it offers women the sorts of jobs and a level of freedom. For this to work, we're gonna have to provide them the leadership that many of these women never had in their life. (soft instrumental music) - Good afternoon. - [Women] Good afternoon. - My name is John Sanchez, I'm the warden here at the Springer correctional center. Welcome to Springer. This place is different, very different. Our goal in the Department of Corrections is to try and make the streets of New Mexico safer. This facility offers a level of privilege that you have not experienced. I've been very blessed in my career. Honestly, in 22 years I've dealt with a lot. When I was doing my internship and I was dealing with 15 year old juveniles and I told him that his record was gonna be sealed and that he could go on and do whatever he wanted with his life and he was very respectful and he said to me, "Sir, sir that's the world you live in. That's not my world." He said, "MY Grandpa's in prison, my father's in prison, I have an older brother in prison and I'm gonna go to prison. There's nothing you can do about it." I remember that very distinctly. It's sad. How do we break that cycle? What do we do? Not just as the Department of Corrections but what do we do as a society? In dealing with everything that I've dealt with, it's brought me to a point where I'm prepared for this. That I, have matured. (laughs) What we're trying to do here is create a, an environment where you're able to get some programming or try and do something different. You're job, until I give you programming, is to stay out of trouble. Everyone one of these women are gonna get out and did we do the best job we possibly could to make them better citizens? What I'm asking for is your cooperation, alright. Thank you and welcome to Springer. - [Women] Thank you. (applause) (tense electronic music) - It is a different approach and most of the staff are gonna have to adjust. They're not used to having 48 women around them. Some of them are kind of freaking out about it. Any prison setting can be a dangerous place. - What's gonna happen here, ladies, is you're gonna walk over here where they're gonna get stripped searched. - Humans like to act on their emotions that could result in more assaults. - With females and their different personalities, it's a matter of time before they started fighting. It could blow up. - Alright ladies, listen up. You're gonna receive a beanie, a jacket, and a uniform. Any time you're in those oranges, your shirts will be tucked in. - With freedom comes responsibility. Make no doubt about it. There are rules that are in place and will remain unwavering. There is zero tolerance for drugs. There'll be zero tolerance for inappropriate sexual relationships, violence, or any other criminal crime. - [Inmate] Anytime you guys don't want to follow the rules, we will start writing you up. So make sure you follow the rules, okay? So right now, they'll get your uniforms and then they'll have you come over here and fill out a form. - Go ahead and sign right there. Give them your name and your size. - [Man] Medium top, medium bottom? - All the way against the wall. - We've made it very clear what success looks like. You have the rules you make the choices. For those inmates who don't want to accept this investment that we want to make into them, I've got prison bays for them. Western handles our most difficult higher risk inmates with longer sentences that are already harden in their spirits and hearts and made some poor decisions. They place too much risk on injuring or killing our staff and or other inmates because of security reasons, they are gonna be held in a far more restrictive environment. - Yeah, you ready? - I don't like it. - It sucks. (beep) up because we're stuck in this room. It's so little. Look at it, it's like real small. Like there aint, we can't even see outside the window. - You made the choices to come here, this is your neighborhood. I am gonna have safe prisons. - I can't live like this y'all. - But at the end of the day, this system has been about creating opportunities for people to make choices. - [Officer] You walk down this sidewalk here... Springer represents a completely different and innovate approach to prison management. That's why we refer to it as our sort of experiment in New Mexico. As we transfer these women, we're gonna be watching very closely to separate out those who are committed with this investment and those who are gonna look to exploit these new freedoms. (energetic tense electronic music) - This is so big compared to over there. - I know, we were living in the ghetto. - Oh my gosh, you guys look at this. - [Inmate] What is this? - [Inmate] Oh my God. - Look at all the windows we have here. We can actually look outside. - Oh my God this is like the Hilton compared to Motel 6, you know? For real. - Sausage and gravy biscuits. - What? I'm so excited. A fat girl at heart. (laughs) - Crisp sheets. Oh yeah, gonna sleep so great tonight. This is a nice mattress. We were sleeping on metal before. You always have anxiety. But other than that, yes way more comfortable. Tell you that much. (upbeat electronic music) - Don't come to prison. - Many if not most of these females are first time offenders. They're far more positioned to succeed. - I have a two year old that's waiting for me and I can't wait to get back home to her. - But at the same time, there will be some females who come to us with pervasive criminal histories. - This is gonna be so (beep) scared when I get there. - It will be difficult to change. - Hating this little lame ass place. Too much freedom. (energetic electronic music) I'm red flagged like a (beep) here for no reason. I'm even insulted by that. They don't got no proof or nothing of you. They sure don't. Apparently I'm related to El Chapo Guzman. (speaking Spanish) (laughing) I'm an outgoing and short tempered female. (upbeat electronic music) A lot of these females are intimated by me cause they know that I will fight to get what the hell I want or my way. I want some corn rows going to the side. Hook me up with some kind of star burst. I consider myself boss up in here. I've heard it's a lot better here but I really don't believe that they care on how we do our time or what's gonna happen to us when we get out. We were all real frustrated at the same time because of our new surroundings and being institutionalized. We're inside a facility, we hardly ever got to come out. - [Inmate] What they're not understanding is that we came form somewhere that had no structure, no consistency. - [Inmate] We ran that (beep). - [Inmate] Exactly. We literally ran that place. - You know that movie Rat Race how they just throw you out there and they can see you? You know what I mean? I felt like they're like zoomed into us. This little camp. Supposed to be successful here. Oh yeah look at these braids. They look hot. God I'm sexy, huh? - [Inmate] Am I the female Godfather? - [Inmate] Yeah. (laughing) - Godmother over here. They done (beep) up putting us all in here together. They don't know about us. (tense electronic music) - We are just days into this transfer. Over the next three to four weeks, we'll be transferring hundreds of female inmates to Springer. - [Officer] Let's go ladies, let's go. - The process of settling those inmates is extraordinary. From their access to commissary, to phone privileges, to security screenings, to assuring that all of those inmates property is transferred. There's still so much that needs to be done. It's going to be challenging. Our staff are gonna have to be on their game. They're gonna have to stay alert for any inmate who might try to take advantage of these newfound freedoms. (laughing) - What part are you in? - In six. - You like it? - Yes, I love it here. - This is great. I've never been so happy to be in prison. - It's a nice sun shiny day here in Springer, New Mexico. - The first day I was here, the warden come up he goes, "Trouble, it's written all over." He goes, "I'm watching you." And I was like, I didn't even do nothing. (tense electronic music) The other prison I came from was a piece of (beep). The guards disrespected, they treated you like (beep). You didn't have no programs, no opportunities to better yourself while you're on the inside. I wish I was here before like where I could do something with my time instead of nothing, you know what I mean? There's a lot of programs, schooling available, trades, all that here. Coming here, I did have a little bit of anxiety. - How are you doing? Are you okay? - I've been in that one room for so long and it's scary. There's a lot of people here, look. There's girls everywhere. I left two of my best friends behind. Like one of my best friends, she's a lifer and she probably gonna be going to Western. So that's gonna be tough. I'm still adjusting to it. Who's in the pod like of our people? One of the reasons I'm scared is because people clique up in here. A lot of people clique up. Either gangs, the connects, the users, just everybody cliques up. I keep it cool with everybody cause I'm trying to stay out of trouble. - You know there aint no such thing as cliques around here, right? - Yes. - Okay, we don't do all that right? - This is cupcake town. A lot of girls here don't want you guys to know about how people clique up in a place like this. People that bring the drugs in the facility, a lot of people try to clique up with them cause they're waiting for a free high or a handout. It's gonna be one of the biggest cliques here. - Female inmates don't typically have gangs but they have what is called prison families which creates these cliques. - The family structure in prison is like, you got to have somebody to make sure that hey everything's alright. You have that protection. - Women in prison have a closer relationship with each other then they do with their own families. - Sometimes blood is not thicker than water. Water can be thicker than blood and that's how it is for us. - There's a hierarchy in any kind of prison you're in and you don't want to be at the bottom. - The influences of these prison families are never ever healthy and as we make this transition, those prison families are being broken and that presents itself with the opportunities for the leaders to reestablish new families at the new facilities. - Gives you a lot of power to be in control of a lot of things. - Those cliques can create conflict in the prison system. - [Inmate] I almost got in a fight over here. - Are you serious? - Yes. - A little troubLe maker. - She's the one who started it. But. - You guys are meatballs. - When I have my spot in line, I want my spot in line. You know what I mean? - You tell Kathy that talk (beep) get hit? I love you Martha Connel In prison, everybody knows me. I'm Mama Dee to a lot of people. Oh she better hope I don't run into her. I don't like when people hurt. It bothers me a lot. Get a forearm to the fricken nose. I'm a head butter. (laughs) I'll take your teeth out. I'll headbutt her till she can't see no more. - [Inmate] Her and her wild ass hair. (laughs) - I've been here in Springer. I don't want to be weak in here. I'm not gonna change because I'm in prison. (laughs) - Today we've received 49 of the female offenders and along with the intake process, we will be going through the property. The STIU is the Security Threat Intelligence Unit. We monitor gangs and drugs. We are charged with the safety and security of the facility. Women offenders almost all of them have drug or alcohol related offensives. - [Inmate] I know somebody that can get some good crack. - It is very dangerous to move masses of inmates. They could be a lot of drugs trying to come into the mail, trying to come in through the laundry. - Doing the inventory of everything we've received for each inmate. Unroll every sock, open up every photo album, screen through very book and make sure there's nothing they're not supposed to have. - Sometimes there's drugs in the cards . We go through every sheet of paper, inside envelopes. Make sure there's no strips that might contain drugs. - When they're on drugs or alcohol, women have the potential to be violent. (tense electronic music) - Go ahead and make a line, probably back here. - I've had two cases, yes. - We'll let you know what's going with that. - Alright, thank you. - One of the main objectives is to make sure that we're doing everything we can to prepare them for reentry into our communities. - Hi, whats your name? - Robin Wilson. - Those inmates with longer sentences will be very excited with the open campus environment and with the opportunities that are at their feet, at their ready to take on. - We're gonna keep you busy while you're here. Oh did you put in for that? We'll get you level one and we'll see how it works out. - Those inmates were very very close to the door, are actually as you might expect, very fearful about what's on the other side of this prison wall. - Says you're short timer status, where you gonna go? - I have a couple family members that would like me to go their houses. - So we'll be dealing with a lot of different motivations and emotions as we make it possible for the to return back to a productive life. (upbeat electronic music) - [Inmate] I've been on six months and I still have four years to go. - This is my first time In prison, dude. Like I can't believe it. I never in a million years imagined that I'd ever come to prison. I was just a stay at home mom. I never even went out. I never did nothing. These are my kids. This is my son Andres, he's 17 years old and this is Antonio. They're cute, huh? They're other that took care of them is gone. This experience has affected all of us. Most part my parents because they're elderly. There's my husband, Stiles. We met August 6th, we were married by September 5th, the following next month. - Wow. - Didn't even know each other. We were just like, this is gonna work. My parents blame him. They were upset because they felt like maybe he made a decision on his own that brought me here to prison. - What happened? - We were there hanging out at the house and all of a sudden I got a phone call. It was a girl, she was like "You need to come quick. Your son, they're chasing him with the truck. They're running after him. They're literally gonna run him over and Stile's is actually asleep and I was like Wake up, we got to goes, somethings wrong. Show up, there's a bunch of gang members actually and there was a little argument then the guy pulled up a brick. I think my husband just reacted and he shot at them. One person, he shot him thought the back shoulder and it exited out his chest. - Was he okay? Did he live? - Yeah he did live but he could of died. The other one, I think it just like... - Grazed him? - yeah, grazed him but my intention was to just to talk. I didn't know was gonna go from zero to 100 real (beep) quick. - Yeah. - That's, I'm mean that's crazy. - So they charged you with that same thing as him? Even though you weren't the shooter? - Me and him got the same charges, dude. I was surprised. I was like, what? He was just protecting us. It just, everything when wrong. I lost everything. I regret coming out of the house that day. If I could change anything, we would of handled this different. This should of been handled different. This is a picture we decided to take two days before I came to prison. I've made correspondence with my family since I came here and I'm praying that they come visit me soon. My kids my life. I'm dying inside till I see you again. - Angelina McManaway. - My out days gonna be soon? - It's gonna be soon. - Yeah soon? - I need you to sign both these forms a date right here and in about two three days we'll have your new projected outdate that we can get and get on with your life. - Yes, sir. - Alright? - Okay. Thank you. - You're welcome. - About to leave. I'm super excited. - Yeah (beep) I ain't been out four years. - He said he'd have my outdate in two to three days. But like here these so much freedom, so I just want to go things you know? Things that I know I can't. Troubles' my middle name. - When I first got to prison I fought so much. - I feel like they brought me here just like they could keep a loser eye on me. Like they signal my out a lot because of the write ups I came with. - It makes me want to act out even more and its just like there's that door that I can just open and go you know? Temptation is all around. - We've got those inmates that are younger and wldiler. They enjoy the drama and the attention that comes with it. We're hopeful that by working on on on with each one of our younger inmates that will help bring them along in the transition. - Watch your step. Let's go ladies, everybody. (upbeat hip hop music) - I got here three days ago and I'm still adjusting to it. - Are ad gonna do a commissary order for me? - You need to do it right now, matter of fact. Because this is, they're gonna pick em up tomorrow morning. - I have a girlfriend in prison. - Me and my prison wife, Rebecca, we've been together on and off for three years. Me and Rebecca, we actually go transported here together to Springer. We actually live on the same bunk. - No sweets, you already got that. - Okay. She knows a lot about me, I know a lot about her. We try to support each other emotionally. She's a loyal person, she's a good friend to have. - Oh no, none of those. - Please? (laughs) having Rebecca, it makes things easier cause I don't have nobody when I get out. Yeah I've done a (beeps) with my life. I have a (beep) up past. My parents were drug addicts. I lost my dad. I found him dead when I was 13 years old. It (beep) me up, bad and when I lost him, I gave up on life. I started using methamphetamine. I got arrested, I ended up getting pregnant at an early age. I actually gave birth to my five year old in prison. I'm a drug addict, I'm and alcoholic. So I get out, I get high and I come back to prison. I'm scared to get out this year and I don't know what I'm gonna do and that's what's scary. It's good to have that, somebody to just lean on and cry and have them hold you. Especially like when you're going through a hard time like how I am going through with my family and everything. It's good to have somebody that knows you, knows where you come from, like to keep you positive. I'm getting ready to leave Springer back to Albuquerque for court. Two months ago, I got caught bringing heroin into a facility. I'm hoping I don't (beep) up being away from here. - Females tend to be a bit more emotional. -Okay? - Okay. They develop their own relationships within the prison structures. - Women in prison, we're drug addicts, we're criminals, we're murders but we're al hurting and need companionship. - This is the gorgeous one in the pod. - There's a lot of romantic stuff going around here with females. - I'm not gonna spend years in prison and not have a bitch, (beep) that. - Some girls come, they're just gay for the stay. Some girls come gay from the street to here, you know what I mean? - A lot of girls get passed around in here. See a girl one day and she's with one girl and then like the net day, they'll switch girlfriends. Like we call them thristees. - They change girls like they change their damn underwear man. - They can get pretty crazy. - Of course jealousy's gonna be thrown up in the air. Everyday on a daily. - They get fatal. Oh my God, they get so fatal. They just, can't get enough of you. They don't want you with nobody else, they want to fight you if they see you with somebody else. It's ridiculous. - A lot of the chaos anda lot of the drama around here is pertained to females being with females. - Romantic or sexual relationships in prison environments can be hugely problematic. Not only could it involve coercion, rape, and those sorts of things, there's zero tolerance for it. - When you're in prison, even if you hug anther female it's a sexual misconduct. At the end of the day, there's always ways to get around stuff. Come on, where there's a will there's a way. (tense electronic music) - I'm trying to see if my girlfriends back from court yet. She went to court last week but I don't see a transport vehicle so I guess she's not here yet. MY girlfriend, Lux, when to court a week ago. So hopefully I'm still here when she gets here. They'll wait, believe me. (tense energetic electronic music) - It is hot. - Want to read my card? So they said I'll be leaving any day now. - Yeah right. - Yeah. - I still have a minute. - Imagine I might leave her for Lux. - She would be all hurt. In a perfect world, she would come back. We'd both here and we'd get married probably next weekend. What is this gonna tell me? It's both of our first time getting married in prison, you know. So we think we're gonna do it outside. Are you coming to the wedding? Yeah I'm missing Lux like crazy. It's a lot of cards. It's a lot to tell? - [Inmate] A lot to tell. - Actually, I met her like three years ago and we absolutely did not like each other. Like we were like enemies. So then when she came back this time, I was like oh, I'm want to hit her up, you know? She's all, "Can I sit down?" She's all, "Or will your girlfriend get mad?" I was like, I don't have a girlfriend. (laughs) - [Inmate] You were like, you want to be my girlfriend? - So she sat down and we've been kicking it ever since. - There's you, there's a lot of love. There's your heart, there she is. There's another bitch. Another man. - So there's another guy and another girl? (upbeat hip hop music) ♪ Booty do ♪ Booty do ♪ Your stomach sticks out ♪ More than ♪ Your booty do - [Inmate] We are having committee to - The most key innovative measures that we see at Springer is that it offers women the sorts of jobs as felons they're most likely to get when they get out. - Are you four? Come here. What did they tell you? - [Gregg] We're gonna focus on making sure that we do everything to train them with some transferrable job skills. - What do you plan to do while you're here? - Education and keep myself busy. Stay out of trouble. - I need gym porters. - Okay. - What did they put you on? - What is that? - That's a good job, fool. - That's rock breaking? You're stupid. - Oh yeah. You're outside of the fence? - No stupid. - Oh my God. - Right now I need a housing and seventh plot porter. It will be Sunday through Thursday from 7:30 to 2:30. - Okay. - There you go. - Thank you. - I'm up. Hi guys. - Hello, how are you? - Good and you? Good. - Alright Gladys Sanchez Padillo. We gathered together to try and get you on the right path with programming and we'll give you a job today. Where I need you at is a housing day porter. Sunday through Thursday in the afternoon and I'll start paying you as of tomorrow. - You like this facility? - Huh? - You like this facility? - Honestly, no I think I'm institutionalized. You know so it's a little different for me. - Well it's better than being locked up right? - I was okay where I was. - [Man] Okay. - They told me I'm going to hell if I don't change my ways. (laughing) A pod porter. - You work Sunday through Thursday 12:30 PM to 7:30 PM. That's your whole day. - I have to go to work, you know, I just got a job. - You know you aint got to do nothing. You just got to clean and then (beep) go outside. - You're gonna have us over there with you. - That's just how it is. We have no say so in here. 30 cents per hour. 30 cents per hour, ladies. What they pay us is just disrespectful. (beep) slaves, 30 cents an hour. That will piss somebody like me off. - [Inmate] Is that Big John? - Where? - [Inmate] Is that Big John over there? - Well, yup, no. Yup it is. - [Inmate] Should we just call Big John to the fence? - [Inmate] John, Mr. Sanchez. - Just tell him, Big John, sir, can you bring your moose knuckle over here? - Mr. Sanchez! Okay are you gonna come back so we can talk? Oh see you guys got me all (beep). - Then how do you do business? You don't even talk to us. - The warden's a (beep) prick. - Yeah. The warden, he's a douche bag really, honestly. - You see how much of a dick he is. Like a prick, you know? - He's waiting for one of us to do something so he can make sure that we're in trouble and catch a charge and give us more time. Yeah I can't do this. This, this, all this right here, no. He's somebody that doesn't have respect for us. He's somebody that looks down on us. That's what makes me pop off. We're gonna have problems. (tense electronic music) - Thank you sir. The officer that found it saw the residue in the corner in the bottom of the envelope thinking that it could be a, some kind of drug substance. If they are trying to bring in contraband, bring in drugs, it is a very dangerous. Anyone that controls the drugs and has a connection is potentially violent. They end up controlling the facility. It appears to be black, sticky in nature and it did flatten in the corner of the envelope. Some black spot there. Any small amount is usually testable. It takes a very little amount to actually show a positive. Depending on the color that it turns we'll know what it is and we'll see what we get. Preliminary test actually shows that it is positive for heroin. This one would be black tar heroin. - Heroin has been at an epidemic level in New Mexico prisons for decades now. - Something like this can actually add time to your sentence. You can street charges for dangerous contraband in a facility. - When we receive physical evidence that there are drugs being introduced into our prisons, we have to deal with it quickly and decisively. - There are those already that we know that are trying to test us. (upbeat electronic music) When the females arrive, they will be stripped searched and we're gonna have to also increase the process to go through their property. We are looking for any indications of drug smuggling. - Drug dealers, they leverage their capacity to exact fear and intimidation within our prisons based on controlling the drug industry. - Situational awareness, okay? Here at this facility, it's gonna be very active out there on the compound just going through units. It's still prison. Honestly they can either be here or they can be at Western. There's not a whole lot of other options. Everybody be careful. (soft tense hip hop music) - I want to use the phone. I want to talk to my kids. Nobody knows where we are, if we're okay, nothing. That's the only thing that brings tears to my eyes is my kids. We want to talk to our kids. - As human beings, we're social animals. If Springer is to be the campus style, pro social environment it is designed to be, then one of the main objectives is to do everything that we can to get inmates connected strongly to their families and phone calls is one way of doing that. (upbeat hip hop music) - Ladies, it's now 11:30. We're gonna begin the produce to set your phone up with the voice recognition, okay? - It's equally important to make sure that as we're implementing these phones that we're doing so with every one of our risk management mechanisms in place. - [Man] It will say a random number and then it will ask you to read it. - [Phone] Begin reading aloud at the beep. (beep) - The tin man is tall. - [Inmate] We boosted a dog in the park. - Oh mother, my mother. She's probably hetic right now, wondering what the heck is going on. - Open the door. See the dog run with the ball. - We monitor phone calls in prison to stay on top of security threats, weapons, drugs, or any other contraband that could threaten this new environment. There's a number of things that could happen that we don't want to happen. - [Phone] Enrollment complete. Thank you, goodbye. (tense electronic music) - Who's in line for the (beep) phone? - There's only one line for the phone, I thought? - There's not two (beep) lines for the phone. There's one line. Get behind one person. - Yeah I don't know how they have two lines again. But I know you're after me. So them two are the next two and that's it. - What it don't make. - Come here, let's do your eyebrows real quick. You want me to help you out? Katrina, she's one of the people that I can trust with a lot of things. What was that commotion over there by the phones. - [Katrina] They're trying to make a (beep) list and I already told them they're not making a (beep) list. - The young girls that come in, they're young and they need to learn and they see us as a mother figure. Who made it? - I don't know. - Well we can just jump on it whenever the (beep) we want. Since when do we go by the list, right? - Yeah. They done (beep) up putting us all in here together. - They don't know about us. We got each others back, no matter what. Who made this list for the phones? You know these girls were trying to put themselves in line for the phone. Doesn't work that way. You know what I mean? It doesn't work that, it's not gonna go down like that. So are we gonna erase this whole board or what? I run this show. It's all me. Where you guys at with it? Where you guys at with it? - [Inmate] Where we at with it? I don't know. - [Inmate] It's at the beginning. - Being a boss, you call it out and that's what it is. You know what I mean? It should be first come first serve and like you need a phone call, you know what I mean? Have respect for the ones that do need a phone call at seven o'clock. You should just be able to get on the phone and not be on that list. The list is gone. You can erase all that. So I guess you guys are, you know, you guys just use the phone. Being a boss, just these females don't get to say what goes and what's gonna be done. Doesn't work that way. I, the boss, will tell you how it goes. You know we do. It's our way or no way. - So we've been waiting to get back the phone. Unfortunately, I have not talked to my family. - And I is after you. - My dad is diagnosed with Alzheimer disease. - Bye. - I can't do anything but be a voice to him. - [Phone] Thank you. Secured, you may start the conversation now. - Mom, hi where are you at? Oh my gosh, can I talk to dad? He's right there. Dad. Dad, this is Renee, can you hear me? It's good to hear your voice, dad. I'm so glad to talk to you. There's not a minute I don't think of you guys. Okay. Well I'm doing alright. I moved, I got to Springer. I'm gonna be programs and doing stuff. So I can try to get out so I can go with you guys. You know? (crying) I wish I could explain to you what I go through but it doesn't matter, it just matters that I'm gonna get home and do programs that I can so I can get home to you guys. You know? I had so much to say but I'm just lost for words, you know, but I am gonna pray for you, dad. I promise I will. I'ma pray for you and i'ma go home and I'm gonna take care of you, okay? I love you and I'm sorry I can't be there by your side but I love you and I'm gonna hold you close to my heart, okay? Alright. Bye, dad. Bye, mom. (soft somber music) I just wish I wasn't here, you know? I wish I was home and I'ma do everything I can to go home. I'm gonna program to do what I got to do. Cause this world here, I don't like it. - [Recording] This is what I hate about. So you know where the key is? Talk to her, she's not done that. Hello. - With phone communication, a number of things can happen. Good things like staying in touch with family but also bad things can happen. The coordination of drugs or weapons into the prisons system can occur. We've found evidence and are pursuing an investigation regarding heroin trafficking in the facility now and so monitoring those phones is a fundamental feature. - What I'm listening to now is a phone call between McManaway and her mother. - [Recording] You like it in prison, Katrina. You would of been out a long time ago and you don't even care about your kids no more because you would have not done what you did in there. You would of walked out that door. - She's a person that gets a lot of attention from the other inmates and stuff. - [Recording] (mumbles) there's no club in here. - She's over there talking in the background to other inmates and just inviting them into the unit which is a violation. - [Recording] Katrina, keep your mouth shut. - [Man] So this is exactly why we have a zero tolerance. - [Recording] Okay I'm sorry. The COs don't even know what we look like yet. - Because I can't tell you how disappointing it is to see someone so close to freedom, so close to a meaningful transition back into our community fail because of it. - That one in orange, I'll (beep) break that bitch in half. (laughing) - We're gonna form a count ladies, form a count. Bring out your ID. I should have to wait for it. See you're standing in order, IDS out. - Come here baby. (laughs) - That's it ladies. - So when I went to court, I started growing distant from Rebecca. It was nice, I got a little bit more freedom. I go talk to other girls, do drugs, party. In county like, And that (beep) messed me up. Rebecca, like I care for her but I'm not in love with her anymore. I don't know when you're in a relationship with females, it gets old after awhile like you grow apart. Okay do you know Danielle (beep). God she's a bad bitch. Bad ass (beep). So that's my girl now. So when I went to court I got high, I started talking to this girl. We hooked up. She's never been with a girl and I was her first girlfriend. Bitch she's not gay but I made her gay. - Wow. - Within two weeks, bitch, two weeks. I break Becca's a lot, everybody tells me, stop being so mean to her. Then I'm like, Rebecca get over it. She aint going no where. So what did you do everything while I was gone? - Same thing you did. - Kiss girls? - Yeah. - Who did you kiss. - A couple of, I don't know some white girls. - Are they at least pretty? - Oh yeah, they're bad bitches. - Yeah? - (beep) yeah. (laughs) - Stupid. I'm just tired of being tied down. I want to be able to (beeps) and get (beep) up. I'm Krystal Kelly and I do what I want. - We're now three quarters of the way through this transition and we've found evidence and we're pursuing an investigation regarding heroin trafficking in the facility now. - They can hide drugs anywhere like in their clothing, in their shoes, in their bunks, in their pillows, in their person. Anywhere, anywhere. -[Imnate] (beep) man. - It's important that we're on top of who it is that's facilitating that. - Checking at five four diamond at a bunk. - And also making sure that we do our best to seize those substances. - We're gonna conduct a urinalysis test to check to see what you're on if anything. I'm gonna need two more inmates. One from five and one from six. - Am I in trouble? - [Man] You've been selected under suspicion of use od dangerous drugs. - [Gregg] It's those substances that upset the power basis and that can threaten the entire facility, even the non users that are housed there. - All the little test lines are there. It is a negative result. - I mean what we're talking about is conflict no different than on the battlefield. On the battlefield the trick is always gonna be to make sure that you're taking out the leadership and the shot callers for your foot soldiers. So anytime that we find drugs in prison it's important for us to be on our toes at every moment to try to stop and mitigate the influence of drugs at Springer. (tense hip hop music) - This prison is not a prison. It's a cupcake camp. It's so easy to get dope in here. It's so easy to hustle. These guards aint up on game, you know, like they don't know women are way different than men. Bringing the whole bag. You can get what you want. You can get away with (beep) easy like you just gotta know how to do it. You have to be up on game. Glad I'm a hustler. (beep) we're prisoners, we're convicts. We break the law for a living. This is whatever right, this ones one? - Yeah just, just for you yeah. - Okay thank you, baby. I've been using drugs all my life. I use them in here. This is all I know, you know? (upbeat hip hop music) Ever since me and Rebecca, we stopped seeing each other, I keep getting in trouble. Hi, baby. I love Rebecca, like I care for her but I chose the drug life over her. Ok, lets go. When you're an addict, you burn a lot of bridges. Oh yes, baby. I walked out on my kids. I just turned my back on everybody because I chose the drug life, the gang life over being a mom. My kids, I know like I hurt in here for them, like I miss them, I can't hold them when they wake up with nightmares. I can't help them when they're sick. What it do, what it do? What you smoking (mumbles). But I can't say I will never drink another beer or do another shot of heroin. Oh that's heaven. I'm not tired of that life yet. That (beep) me up. Wait, I think we should just... I want to get a snack, you know what I mean? It numb the pain, it helps me forget. I want some of this right here. It just, you get high, you forget about (beep) (laughing) (tense electronic hip hop) - [Officer] All the way to the back wall. - We have a drug trafficking problem driven by the pursuit of power. They are driving their influence in the same way drug dealers do in neighborhoods. Drugs are not gonna be a part of this safe prison equation. (laughs) - Huh, when's my chick coming? She's never coming. I'm just playing. My girlfriend, Lux, went to court about a week ago. I don't know, I'll probably leave before she gets here. - Earlier this week, McManaway was inviting inmates to go into the unit which is a violation. This is a cat and mouse game and they kind take advantage of the fact that we aren't familiar with them and see what they can get away with. We're pretty much trying to keep a step ahead of everything. Are you gonna be doing anything dumb while you're here? - No. - I see and I hear everything. - Yeah but I've been good. - Been good at inviting people in the unit. - What? - Just saying, just saying. - I was talking (beep). I can't help if they go in. - We have some of the inmates that are making problems purposefully. It makes it harder for everybody. - Y'all are listening to my phone calls? - That's what we do. - I was talking (beep) though. It's not my fault they went in, you know. They didn't even go in. - We have cameras. - Alright. - No you know what. If I give you a break and you do me dirty like that, I'm actually the one person you don't want to mess with. That's why you're on this little teeter totter with me right now. So as of yesterday am I gonna be watching you. Abso freaking lutley, okay? Either you're gonna mess it up for yourself, that's on you, alright? - Okay thank you. - I can't tell you how disappointing it is to see someone so close to freedom start to fail. We got to commit to holding them accountable but at the same time, providing them opportunities to make conscious choices to change. - Hey they're gonna write me up for inviting people into my unit because let me tell you I was on a phone call and there was all kinds of people that were coming to the door and I was all come in, there's no CO in here, come in. She just threw that (beep) in my face. - You just say the stupidest (beep) on the phone, though, I hear you. I hear you. - I don't talk about nothing serious, though. (low tense music) Looking over here, huh? - Can I flip her off? - you sitting over there talking and looking. - Well they don't let us do our time. They like to (beep) with us. - We already got plans. (laughs) - (beep) her. - STIU to 101. Can you 8-7 with me in my office? There is more of this substance. They did confiscate it and they'll bring it up here and test it. (tense hip hop music) STIU, Sergeant Rosenberg. Hey come by the office. Yes, sir. Yeah it's heroin. Yes, sir. Come check it out. Alright, thanks. - What did you find? I mean, you found heroin actually? - Yes. - I thought you guys were talking about you gave her a urinalysis she tested positive for it. No you found heroin. It's not surprising. - Yeah. - It's disappointing. But it's the nature of the game. It's what they do. They try and get away with stuff. - We'll question her and call the state police. - This is Captain Ron Gonzales at the Springer Correctional Center. Hi, I was just calling to see if you have an officer in the vicinity of Springer. 10-4, can you see if you have an inmate, Nicole (beep). - [Cop] And who did you say tested this? - I tested. - You did, Sergeant. If there's more, we're looking at contributing. She's a violent one, huh? Aggravated assault upon peace officer, child abuse. - There's still a storm to be ridden out. So it's a constant cat and mouse game. - Come on. - But our staff knew that going into it and they're fully poised to step up and make sure that we're doing what it takes to make it. (energetic electronic music) - Once this transitions over, we'll be at full capacity. - Go about 10 ahead of me. - 425, that's the number that we've worked to increase to. Now that we're into this, we're gonna start to walk around and say what do you need, what did we not account for? - I don't want to beat a dead horse, but once everybody gets their commissary, they'll calm way down. - I know I know. - Way down, like way down. You'll be surprised what that cup of coffee do for some people and we're addicts by nature. - Please. - I'll check on it but I'm not guarantee it. - Thank you. - We're hanging. I'm hanging by my fingernails. (laughs) - McManaway, she had a sense of attitude from the moment she got off the bus. - (beep) the warden was dogging me, intimidating me. - [Warden] So you kind of key on those things. - Hey he be (beeps) watching you like a mother. You walked off, he turned his (beep) neck and everything. - Cause he's singling me out. - Canteen issues? - They want their canteen, their coffee, their food, their hygiene. - How much of these canteen issues them just trying to get their way? - He has it out for me. He has it out for me. - He cannot wait for you to leave. - They all have issues. Issues here, issues there. Some want to stay, some want to go. - See see look, check this out though. I feel like they're doing all this intimidating with their mouths cause they aint got nothing to back it. You know what I'm saying? - Don't talk about it, be about it. - The realities are, if they're causing staff problems, they're causing other inmates problems, then we'll start by writing them up and they'll receive misconduct reports and then if they're level is to the point where they're elevated, they can go spend their time at Western. - I don't like being intimidated. I don't take it very well. (upbeat hip hop music) - So we're not three quarters of the way through this transition and we're still pursuing inmates. To assert their powers over others and corrupt the system. (laughing) - Oh my God, your whole demeanor just changed. Why are you tripping? - Oh my God. - What happened? - What the hell. Who said they showered with her girlfriend? Marissa? - Yeah. - Shut up. She's sitting on the other side? - Yeah. - Wow. - Tell her, is it true or is it not? Cause if it's true, that's what she did, then (beep) it, you know just be honest with me but if you (beep) lie to my face and then I find out that it did go down, I'm gonna come (beeps) you (beeps). Hey, she wants to talk to you. She wants you to come out and talk. (upbeat techno music) - It's been three years since I've had a haircut. You're not taking the length out, right? - Yeah I'm taking off two inches. - Two inches? Hell no. What are you stoned? Huh. Yeah, yeah. - I don't understand that though, wanting to be high in prison. That's just insane to me. You're like wow I'm tweaked. I'm in prison, wow. I'm still in prison. You know? Like oh no way. No way. Since I've been here in Springer, the environments different, you have more freedom. I'm different now. I want to go home. That's my only objective, get home. Now that I've been in here, I see there was so much better that I could of done. I'm here for 15 more months and I'm here on drug charges. I'm here on trafficking. It's crazy. In February of 2018 it will be five years and nine months. I'm more than ready to go home. More than ready. Will I do dope when I leave here? No. You don't appreciate what you have until you don't have it anymore. I became great grandma in prison. This is a poem I wrote, it's for my grandson, Zach. I know you don't know me but I thought we could meet. Tell you a little something about me. Most people call me Mama Dee. This place is the ugliest, hardest part of my life. In here I feel anger, sadness, heartbreak and strife and when I feel it's taking over, my sweet Zachary appears with his sweet angel smile and his sweet baby voice rings in my ears. If ever you need me, you'll know where I'll be. I need you, I love you. Always forever, love me. I got six grandkids who know me as Nana Dee, she's in prison. I don't want the seventh to know me in here. I don't want him to know me by pictures or by the telephone. I can't have that. I'm done. I don't want to do this anymore. I don't want to be that person anymore. - It says, "Hey Buns. I'm good I guess, you know what, yeah I love you." - "I wish I could take you some Cheetos and a Dr, Pepper right now. Remember that? How bout coffee and donuts every morning? Even on our bad days, you're good to me. I remember stressing about rent." - "I think about you every day and I miss you so much." - "I never lived life until you came into mine. Thank you. I wouldn't take (beep) back, I'd do it again but this time, I'd do it better." ♪ Happy birthday dear Kyle ♪ Happy birthday to you (cheering) - Happy birthday, baby. (tense music) - Yes it is. - Y'all have a chair in the shower? Y'all had a (beep) chair in the shower bitch? - Alright. Because that's now who that was and you can go in there and ask who it was and they'll tell you. Everybody knows what? - [Inmate] You ask her and she'll tell you. - I can't believe you lied to my (beep) face. I gave you that one chance to tell me the truth and you didn't tell me the truth. - I didn't, I'm telling we can still, I didn't. - [Katrina] You a punk ass buster. - A buster? - Wangsta ass bitch. - On camera that's what you want to (beeps). (beep) you. - (beep) you, bitch. We're gonna go in there. - [Inmate] Be careful. Don't follow them cause the cops will come. We don't want the cops to come. - Oh boy, this might not be good. (tense hip hop music) - 82 799. - I can't believe you lied to my (beep) face. I gave you that one chance to tell me the truth and you didn't tell me the truth. - I didn't. - You a punk ass buster. - A buster? - A wangsta ass bitch. - On camera, that's what you want to say? (beeps) (beep) you. - (beep) you, bitch. We're gonna go in there. - [Inmate] Be careful. We don't want the cops to come. - Oh boy, this might not be good. (tense music) - There's a fight going on. Oh (beep). - It needed to be done. - God dang. - Oh my god. - Son of a bitch. - You're (beep) scratched. - She's okay. (beep) bitch got like three good licks in, that's it. But I had that bitch tossed all over the place. - Yes. (laughs) - This is how disputes are settled. (energetic hip hop music) - I'm gonna miss you so much. You stay safe out there, okay? - I will. God bless. - God bless you, too. - This is the first time the inmates are gonna be released. To not have them come back is the biggest goal of them all. - we have women, they will come to us with pervasive criminal histories. They are also women who will transition into our community whether we like it or not. - I love you baby. - I love you too - I'll have you forever cause I got my picture. - Yes you will. Bye mama. - So this prison experience matters for our neighborhoods. What happens behind our prison walls has a direct relationship on the safety and security of our neighborhood. - Today is the day we get to be released from department of corrections. I'm happy. My anxiety is up to here but it's a good anxiety. - You get institutionalized. You get to used to just you know a certain way of living and it's hard to approach the real world when you first get out there. You're like, oh you don't know what to do. - I love you. - We did a lot of time together. We cried together, we prayed together. We try to find ourselves in a place like this. It's really hard. - We have the courage to make the right investments in their transitions back into our community. To hopefully free them of their past. When they do return. - I love you. - I'm confidant in these women. I'm confidant in them because one, I'm confidant in humanity and our capacity to adapt and improve when we make those decisions. (tense music) - We were advised on the radio that there was a fight on the compound. One of the COs actually overhear some inmates talking in the restroom of housing unit five and they understood that there was a fight. Here in mass control, we have access to all the cameras in the whole compound. The officers can't be in every place all the time. So Master control picks up the slack. There's footage from inside the units and that's the front door. I got a good idea of around the time that it happened. I'm trying to find when they came into the housing unit so I can start looking at the other camera angles to figure out what happened. Every time I do an investigation on an altercation, you come to the camera and once you have an idea of the time, there's so many things you can see in the camera that that's gonna tell the story there. The camera doesn't lie. Oh there it is right here. You can see them walking into the quad now. There was a problem outside and that's why they went inside so no one would see them. McManaway, she doesn't even belong in housing unit five. They're gonna be coming in this way in the restroom area. McManaway is seen going into the housing approximately 12:46. They went into the restroom area at 12:47. There's no reason that she should of been in housing unit five at the time. So there is no excuse for that either and that's something we don't tolerate. We identified the inmate that was involved in the altercation has been verified by the camera system. We have our hard evidence and we're gonna be bringing them down now. McManaway. - Physical violence is a threat to our prison system. Inmates who are physically violent will face punishment. - Here she comes now. There's miss I'm not having no trouble with nobody, no issues, don't do nothing. I'm leaving in three weeks. What happened? - Leave in two weeks. - Two weeks. I guess that's a plus. Come on down. - Where we going? - To the holding cells. - For what? - Oh we'll figure it out. (low tense music) - Ms. Angelina McManaway, she didn't follow the rules from the moments she got off the bus. - If I put that person back on the compound, it can turn more violent cause now that persons been caught. So they want retaliation. - It's not just a matter of safety for the staff but the safety of the other inmates. When one individual feels the level of that they can walk into another unit and start a fight. She was wrong, she was mistaken and that's what she's learning right now. You hope that they change, you hope that they appreciate the level of privilege but if they don't, I don't get to say. (tense hip hop music) - So we go to our (mumbles) first and get on the train. - They just called us. - Who? - Over the intercom. Yeah that's P1 right here. So its time to go. - It's time to go baby. Let's roll out. - Bye guys. - They said we could keep the mesh bags. - Oh really? - Yeah. Okay Let's go. Roll out ladies, let's roll out. As soon as we got on the other side of this, we can taste the freedom. - The longer we wait the harder my heart jumping. - I know. - I know. - Bye guys. - [Inmate] Is that the van with the plan? - Yeah. Get right behind me. - I love you too. Be good. - Bye. - Ready? - Bye. - Bye. - Let's go, come on. - She's possibly two weeks way and she could not be going home in two weeks as she says. - Everybody out of the way, let's go. - Depends on the administration and what they decide. - Katrina leaving affected a lot of us. She's a big personality around us. She's a funny gal. She's good company, you know but I mean life goes on in here. (laughing) - Ms. McManaway, she had a sense of attitude from the moment she got off the bus. If you're ready some day in the future, You know what I mean? - Yeah. - She didn't do what she was supposed to do while she was here and I don't make examples but she did this, right, she was given the opportunity and she didn't so what she was supposed to. So if you don't do what you're supposed to, you don't get to stay. Fix whatever issues you got, right? Some of it can be fixed by you, some of it's gonna take some time, realistically. So that you qualify to be here. It's that simple, right? - Stack them please. - True to my word, aren't I? Someday maybe you'll be ready, huh? - [Katrina] Yeah maybe. - Maybe huh? - (beep) this place and (beep) the warden, he's wack. - Katrina. She's (beep) retarded. - This place is kind of a joke. They shouldn't of brought me here and (beep) singled me out and then (beep) send me back. I said tell the warden he can go (beep) himself. My chariot awaits. - What's your number? - 78 147. - Okay hold on. (low somber music) - We are done. We have had a successful transition of our female population into different prisons. We've settled our lower risk female inmates into a lower risk prison campus environment and our higher risk into a higher risk prison. That is a phenomenal success in my measure. - I don't know what percentage of you sitting here thing you're gonna get away with stuff. But you're gonna make the mistake of seeing all this privilege and viewing it as weakness. - If they want us to give this place a chance they should give us inmates a chance as well. - We will be singling out the trouble makers from the those that are committed to succeed and make sure that we're housing them more appropriately. - Over there they were trying to make us feel like oh it's such a privilege to be here. Like you have to act right, da da da. Like (beep) that place. - You're here now and you have to admit this place is different, right? - With freedom comes responsibly. You must realize that these ladies are returning to our neighborhoods. - I got no desire to come back here. I got no desire to go to jail. I just want to be real for a minute. I wonder what that's like. - I believe in the ability of a person to change. You have to want to be a better sister, wife, mother. - I will go home someday and be that mom and be there. I will never come back. - As good leaders, we've given every opportunity to succeed. - What we've worked hard to create here is possibilities, opportunities. You have to want to try and be different. - I don't have nowhere to go. I'm probably gonna fall right back in but I'm gonna try. (soft tense music) - As this simply breathtaking experiment unfolds, if it works then we need to continue that process throughout this entire prison system. The pieces are in place. - Our success is gonna be your success. Your success, right? Welcome to Springer. Thank you. - Thank you.
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Channel: A&E
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Keywords: A&E, AE, aande, aetv, drama, television, reality, real life, entertainment, Behind Bars: Women Unchained, Behind Bars Special, dangerous cliques, drug trafficking, fights breakout, behind bars women unchained new mexico, behind bars women unchained, special report behind bars, drug trafficking border, Behind Bars Flashback, Flash back behind bars, behind bars world's toughest prisons, Gregg marcantel, John sanchez, Crystal Kelly Behind Bars, Behind Bars Full episode, Behind Bar
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Length: 86min 35sec (5195 seconds)
Published: Sun Apr 28 2019
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