Alan Ritchson | Club Random with Bill Maher

it strikes me as odd that someone would have religion un one in their life and also a psychiatrist you're not like in the tabloids yet you're going to be well people don't want to talk about me you're wrong they you know trust me you're wrong Alan I know very nice to meet you you think I don't know who's coming I barely do by the way I'm a newcomer to some people you don't know no no no no oh no no I seen your so I I have to tell you like when you're coming over here I was like cuz they do a million jokes like on how big you are that's like you know which is funny I love your show it's very well written it is and you're great in it um I didn't say you could sit down you want to sit make yourself at home no uh this my podcast I was like I got to see this guy because like they make all these [ __ ] jokes like is he really like uh insanely huge or is he just a big guy and now I have my answer I'm really not you're just you're a big guy you know but you're not like like Squat and you know they have those but you know it's big enough for the part I still I'm I'm kept humble by people that come up to me and they're like either you're way bigger than I thought you were or you're not nearly as big as I thought you were I'll get i'll get both in the same day so I remember I met uh Bruce Smith do you know football not really he was like a Hu one of the best um defensive ends I guess played for the Buffalo Bills who went to the Super Bowl like four years in a row never won it sadly for them but they were great and he was like one of the best defensive players ever and I met him I was like oh wow he's not that big right you know he's just good right yeah and uh you yeah I was there was a huge Aster by this is I was never supposed to be Reacher they were trying very hard to find somebody who fit that iconic 6'5 200 200 50 lb frame what are you 63 and I was 205 lbs I was like a Marathon run I was like a jockey when I book when I booked this thing when they came at me and so I I had to put on weight for this role it's hysterical to me that they cast in the movie an Tom Cruz who is known for using an Apple box oh right if he's in a if he's in a scene with his kids you know he's like known to be a shrimp a little bit you know on the short side and not that I'm very tall but I think I'm taller than him but if you've written 10 books and you have the the biggest star ever saying they want to play your character like you'd make a couple concessions you bring out the Apple box bother me one bit i' never heard of the book I I not a book I would read um still haven't and I don't need to now I have the show yeah you know and the the mo I enjoyed the Tom Cruz movies Tom Cruz is you know obviously the most reliable movie star like I can't think of a movie of his that bored me well none none never and many many including the reacher films including the reacher films yeah it didn't bother I don't give a [ __ ] it's a kick-ass movie I mean they're not he not really you know uh naming these people right it's just good fun and you know and everything you build around the action is important I'm telling you your your show I don't know who writes it but they did a hell of a good job thank you they do a good job we got a good there's a good there's a there's a room there's a writer's room Nick santor I I would give credit for that he's um uh just incredibly talented um yeah and has captured the tone and the levity of Reacher perfectly is that that's in the books totally I I couldn't believe how funny the books were when I read them I I thought it was just yeah I just thought it was like a I just thought it was pure action I don't know action and drama and the character is funny and there's a lot of levity in the fact that he he's so socially awkward is hilarious and it's disarming and um actually he's quite articulate I mean he has like lots of on this show he does say much in the books oh really I thought I was I thought I was hitting the lottery because I was like I'm not going to have to learn any lines and then I and I get a nine-page monologue the first day and I'm like so so I'm delivering all the exposition I see I see um but it's fun and the way it's handled is it's you know I mean I remember reading for parts and like you'd think you'd nailed it and then like you'd see who got it and they go okay that guy just was this right you know and that those you know there's no shame in that that you're just this guy totally and you are right it seems to it seems to be true for me right now I mean even like personality wise you seem like the you know I don't know I don't know anything about you personal but am I wrong to Guess that you know Reacher is much more stoic than I am I I love people so much really that's why I'm here I know I just I I deeply I deeply love I have an affection for people and um you know I'm I'm I do too I mean my the I'm so blessed with so many when you get older you know you collect people just the way you collect all the [ __ ] in this room and everything else in life I don't mean that in a bad way it's good not at all you know I I say I I work with a psychiatrist I just started working with a psychiatrist and the number one theme yeah for me and the number one theme in this conversation is you have to plug in like to put people in your life you know uh just to just to broaden your landscape because I'm so intensely private and so self-reliant and such a lone wolf that's Reacher what I just said to you it is Reacher so I was right that that is reer but do you have a house I don't I don't no oh I just saw my house cuz I'm never there I'm never so what do you walk on the road like like I just I live out of like airbnbs and stuff where where I work I mean dude I I have not had a other than the strike I had not had a single weekend off in like two years I go from Project to project with no time in between it's been very a very good run um and I'm and I'm never home and uh and I like it that way and I I've got three kids and I've got a wife and we all travel together and we homeschool our kids and you like rich yourbody brings his kids on the road yeah a little more than a toothbrush yeah um yeah I saw the trailer they sent me the trailer I guess it's not out yet right the movie The World War II M Ministry of yes yes yes now for something like me that looks really great because World War II Big World War II buff um and had you heard of aners Lassen no or the ministry of ungentlemanly warfare this is this classifi this is Declassified this is Winston Churchill's brainchild and uh the these documents were just recently Declassified and there was a book written about them so this movie is Loosely based on that book of course it's guy Richie so it's got his um oh yeah guy Rich it's got his his spin on it you know but um what's he like that working with him was creatively the scariest I noted the the air goes out of the room like let so just to put it in context what you know from from a performers perspective right I I I am super intense with my work and uh so so so I'm playing this historical figure and Lassen World War II figure who part of the first Special Forces mission in history essentially and this is a Danish Aristocrat in World War II who learned English in you know from British aristocracy so of of a fine and muddled accent I needed to prepare for this role he's an Archer you know so ever done an accent in a movie yeah like you know I've got a movie coming out tonight actually um you know a Kentucky accent you are busy a busy got movie coming out tonight really today what's that movie uh ordinary Angels is also based on a true story um the the headlines in the 990s were snowbaby this is about a father who loses his wife to a rare genetic disorder and his daughter comes down with the same thing and so he's the is in a fight it's you know man verse institutions and medicine and hospitals and a debt and uh nature to try to save this little girl it's a comedy It's the funniest movie I think I've ever made and uh Hillary Swang plays uh Sharon this this uh woman who's got she love Hillary SW she's incredible she's incredible in the movie Sharon in in in the story she seems like a nice person she's like that Hillary or Sharon yeah Hillary schank um she's wonderful yeah she's genuinely a very down down toe person and uh was so generous to take take this space with me I mean I was she didn't know who I was before doing this and you know she was just told he's on the project and do you like the script and she said she would do it and there was a little apprehension I could tell when we met of you know this kind of this ear of like you better be good you know and uh that's good for you and the first scene that we did together she grabbed me by the shoulder at the end as a cut I'm so glad you're doing this movie oh that's great so good yeah so she was she was real sweet and then and now you know we're you know we've been good friends so um she's great but uh she plays this character who is a town drunk and um decides just on a whim to help this family she sees a headline in the paper and decides I'm going to move Heaven and Earth to help this little girl totally platonic um you know a relationship between her and and the father and she helped save this girl and uh you know it was it's a it's a very inspiring movie uh you you know at the premiere Lionsgate handed out Kleenex to everybody in the audience and not one was dry at the end of the film it's really it's a beautiful movie and um you know um wholesome and and so that that's out today so um I guess when people are seeing this guess movies are going back to opening in the theaters huh we are yeah you know God thank God for Lionsgate they're they're they're not only are they taking a swing at at the theaters Lionsgate but but they're taking a swing at original you know at either you know true stories or um you know smaller impactful films or things like Ministry of un gentl Warfare is also lion gate that's a high concept original you know piece of Ip so there they're they're filling that very difficult space with that like between 20 and 70 million s me on Lions Gate I made I made him one movie my movie called religionist I don't know if you ever heard I've seen it oh okay it was great it is great I mean Larry Charles the brilliant director who did Borat and Bruno he and I we went and did this movie 15 years ago wow seems was that lion skate Distributing that and all I mean first of all nobody would do it today but only Lionsgate would do it back then I will always be so indebted to them because I feel the same way with you know I I I mean my manage my ex-manager at the time Brad gray was head of Paramount and of course you know we were close and he was like we could do it and I said you know what you know what happened Brad is that um people will start to complain and say if you release this movie or blah blah blah show it here do that um then we're not going to support x y and z and they had you know Mission Impossible franchise and stuff they had pressure to put on them lion gate alone was like [ __ ] all you we're going to put this movie on now they wouldn't show it in many states probably the ones where you can't get an abortion right yeah probably ones where it would wouldn't have performed but but it did great it was at the time it came out it was the seventh most successful documentary ever made oh wow yeah it did really really but you know of course the material was going to be offensive to any religious people which is still most of the country and even though it was not mean-spirited you know it was it was not looking down on Christians or you know we we one of the first places we went was a truck stop Church in outside of Raleigh North Carolina you know truckers and it's a little shed out in the parking lot right and they have a mask there and they you know and I spoke to them there and one guy walked out right away right it was like if you're making fun of my God and I don't want any part you know and but the other one stayed and we had a really good dialogue interesting you know they weren't um we wound up hugging it out and um you know do you feel like you they were do you feel like you learn anything from that audience when you talk to people from that space um I'm always up for learning something I mean my favorite three words are I don't know cuz if I say that I always learn something so um you know if you can tell me usually it's the other way around quite frankly because people they're religious they don't know anything about their own religion most Christians maybe you're one of them um you're a Christian right I am yeah okay would would tell you that Matthew Mark Luke and John were Disciples of Jesus the people who wrote the gospels and they were absolutely not did you think they were no I mean we you know we know that those documents were based off an an older document that they came later right yeah Jesus died in 33 and the First Gospel Mark the gospel of Mark is 70 right they were not contemporaries of it they all had similar names the disciples you know they were so it is a little confusing right but I've talked to people who are real you know serious Christians and Scholars and all the stuff and they oh no I don't I think don't think that's like trust me every scholar understands this it's not it's not an insult either it's just that's just fact I mean that you know the big um they don't know their own religion they don't hav't read the Bible they they talk about the Bible a lot it's a long book some it's boring but the problem the problem that I have with most most Christians today and I talk about this openly a lot um is that it misses the that misses the point I mean you can get hung up in the Weeds about document Q or whatever you want to talk about with where this stuff comes from but the the the point is very simple uh you've got somebody who claims to be the Messiah pointing the way towards um a whole radically different new way to love and that's through self-sacrificial uh care of your neighbor very true and and when you when you talk about just that it's a really beautiful thing that a lot of other religions don't talk about because you're talking about religions that that talk about the way to Salvation is through doing it over and over and over again and living A Million Lives or finding your own self self-elevation you know um through meditation or contemplation but this is talking about admitting that we are flawed and admitting that that there's there's a path towards um joy that comes through self-service self- sacrifice and I like that the the biography of Jesus is anything but unique in fact it's stolen the number of pre Gods who came before him who were born on December 25th really had disciples were crucified or something on a tree and then came back to life Genesis like even even the very first story in Genesis the second line talking about uh the spirit hovered over the water those chaos Waters that myth that myth was absconded from you know early Eastern so but but the thing that makes it different is there's a Twist on every one of them that that orients us towards I think a seed of truth that is worth worth worth inspecting and holding on to that you know for for example the real twist in the first myth in the creation myth in Genesis is quite simply that those chaos Waters that everybody knew and the serpent being you know the snaky monster being being the the mythological villain was well known to people at that time but never had there been an an an acknowledgement that it was God who created that thing and that he thought that thing was good and that we're to coexist with this world where things like monsters exist and humans exist and there's a way to do that in a way that that still breeds peace that had never been done before well I was going to say the biography of Jesus not original but the message was revolutionary the mess no nobody had really ever been down the uh the meek shall inherit the earth Road there were so many at the time that Jesus was around if he lived that is is still an open question he could not have been actually a historical figure but probably was but at the time uh the Roman Greek Roman mythology was waning so there were a lot of other competing religions uh it's kind of like you know when anything starts sometimes there's two meteor movies uh there's always you know betamax and uh you know whatever what be betamax uh BHS um yeah it's it's also that idea there's always there's always competing things that are coming around there were competing religions at Jesus's time the reason why that one won is because in an Empire that was at least a third slave the message of it gets good in the afterlife was very attractive and that's not something it's really that's not really in Judaism either it's not a big Judaism is not centered on the next World Christianity is like sure this life is [ __ ] but let me tell you something you're going to inherit the kingdom of heaven and and who's going to do that the meek the losers the losers are going to get right now ni said this was this message was very bad for humans because it was telling you the strong don't win and and that of course well not only that but that that he that Earth is not our home here's the problem that what that Earth is not our home that our home is somewhere else in heaven right so we can take a dump on earth right because it's not this isn't for us because we're waiting for the better place right that that is that is also not the message the message is that the kingdom is coming to us that heaven is coming here that our restoration our salvation and our Heaven is Earth that we're Earthly creatures made for this place and that this Resurrection will take place on Earth so like there there's like if if you're if you're truly following the way of Christianity you will be a good Steward of this place because this is where Heaven is you know this would be a really successful episode if you got me to be a Christian by the end of it I'm telling you this thing would [ __ ] explode on the internet Reacher could bill bill more devout Christian that would be hilarious and that's not my effort look I but I talk but I talk I talk about this all the time and and what I want what if I could if I could have my brothers I want less vitriol in the world and I want the Christian Community not to be the one that's known for making outliers and monsters of others right it's a it's a real disappointment and that is a that there is a growing number of Christians who feel exactly the way you do I mean we are so you know when I started covering politics yeah Christian was always Jerry fwell and those and I mean the generations change and it's just the people who are left in Christianity because it is always going downward the trend is less and less people are believing the myth why would you want to there's a lot of there's a lot of venomous Christians out there who who again who you know are so tribal that what they're trying to do is is find safety and numbers in in creating out group no I mean the younger Generations I'm always ragging on them for a good reason they deserve it but they do but um and they know it but they're inheriting a real [ __ ] show oh stop it every they're inheriting the best world that it's ever been what a bunch of [ __ ] for who for them for Wall Street no there are a lot of people who can't they'll never own a home there are people who will never own a home because of the way that things are structured right now that is a tough one right now but actually it's not even true had this woman on the my show just last Friday Jean twangy she's the expert she wrote the book on generation she's done a number of books on this the one of the big uh Revelations that surprised me and everybody else who was hearing it is that the Millennials who we've been hearing forever oh tough e Economic Times and living in their parents' basement and actually doing better comparatively by the numbers than every other generation they're not now wow every Millennial right now rolling over in their parents basement as they listen to you say this they can't afford a home Hing they're apartment but they're not Allan there's actual there's actual government statistics on this kind of stuff so what you're what you're citing is anecdotal that's what I was doing that Mom and Dad croak right now so that they can try to get a house again we have actual information on that we have actual information so you want you can believe what you ever want cuz that's what religion is just believing whatever the [ __ ] you want but there is actual information there is actual information and the Millennials are actually doing better than other here's what Millennials are doing better than anybody else than any generation before this this is a real headline you want go look this bad boy up they're spending fathers are spending more time with their kids than any generation before them well good that is that is the victory that they're that they're having they are they're they reranking their priorities what I was going to say is they're less religious they are ranking their priorities right and and they're finding finding ways to spend time in places that matter more more than corporate servitude or church or church or church if your church is a real is missing the point Club random is brought to you by the audio marketing gurus at radioactive media so it's now March the month that represents the beginning of Spring New Life The Luck of the Irish and St Patty's Day that day when you restart that Super Bowl hangover that just went away don't let your business be reliant on just luck do something to drive new sales and acquire new customers by partnering with shows like mine and according to Media reports I'm considered trustworthy 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plus you can pause or reschedule your deliveries anytime head to factor meals.com random 50 and use code random 50 to get 50% off that's code random5 Factor meals.com random 50 to get 50% off but I I mean I was raised Catholic I was too I am not Catholic I am not Catholic oh really me neither look at that not Catholic what are you there are so many problems and I'm so disgusted at the defense that they've uh wagered waged um um for their their their Cardinals and Bishops and everybody involved inid stuff yeah dude it's disgusting how how how how hard they're fighting well it just shows you how institutions become corrupt and you know I mean this this last Pope there were lots of things I I I mean I just like him as a guy he he waivers between doing like hip stuff he takes a hip pill once in a while and then he goes and protects a cardinal who's like been passing around kid doesn't do that like like baseball yeah they do he knows they all know about this stuff and nobody you know if you know he's doing it until somebody stops the buck and they go you know what we're going to hold all these pedophiles accountable well he is not holding them accountable so he's just as complicit the church definitely doesn't know the church definitely needs a fresh new face somewhere other than a pre slap like uh uh Jack Smith uh maybe could be the both like maybe we get a prosecutor and the pope no but uh you're you're you're being too hard on Frank Frank has tried more than his predecessors to I mean he talked openly about the homosexual cabal in the Vatican nobody ever did that nobody ever blew the the lid off that one and and he is not I don't think he is transferring them like they used to I don't think prot I think first of all it just became too obvious and it was too open and nobody could do that anymore but I just I like Frank um again he waivers between like sort of uh taking a hip pill one day and he'll say things like atheist can get into heaven like we could give a [ __ ] because we don't believe in it okay but a nice gesture and then he'll go back to he remembers he's the [ __ ] Pope and you know and he'll do something really hard rightwing but I it's like okay but that's your brand I kind of respect that you know you kind of like have to like once in a while be that guy because that's what people want I mean why would you join a religion if you didn't want like super duper hard fast rules that to keep you in line and to give you a sense of order in the world even if it's not I mean when I my Jewish mother sort of Jewish but not Catholic she didn't go to church with this when I asked her at the beginning a religionist why did you go along with this you know because she didn't go to church she said well I just thought you needed structure and any structure even though I didn't believe in it was better than nothing okay I I get that I wouldn't subscribe to it but I understand that's why she thought oh you need some kind of religion in you I mean this is the 60s you know um so yeah we're not I'm not Catholic it sounds like a bunch of [ __ ] to me but you know they're going to teach you Commandments and right and wrong and I think people feel like and a lot of people by the way do need that I mean I think religion it can make you it absolutely keeps some people in line Mark rberg I'm guessing is one of them yeah I just feel like without Catholicism Mark Walberg would be all you know and it's not to say that everybody you know every every Catholic is complicit or every Catholic is in on that or whatever I mean look my mom is a staunchly Catholic she's um she's a saint you know she's like a daily mass like you know spends her free time gardening tilling the you know the weeds in the at the church and you know um I I think it's not just important her but it's um you know it's an important part of her identity and I I respect that and there there are millions and tens of millions of people like that around the world that are Catholics but um I personally just couldn't be a part of something giving my tithes or time or energy towards something where it's so well known that there's um hideous acts of um yeah you know rape and pedophilia going on and and they're nobody's doing anything about it you know so you're religious but without a structure without about to you don't subscribe to any one um organization because organizations do always become corrupt always to some degree you know but it's in the nature I I think I mean that probably has more to do with just the the the lack of structure in my life you know I don't have a home really you know we're back to being Reacher I mean I'll spend you know I'll spend uh four or five months in Toronto filming Reacher and then I'll go to London or turkey to film a movie I'm in Winnipeg I'm here I'm there um like I don't have anywhere to plug in really so I don't have a reason to sort of like you know see what the constitution of a of a certain U you know religious platform is I you know but I deeply care about exploring those ideas I think they they had a ton of fulfillment to my life and they they I I look I'm I'm I'm the last I'm not the poster child for Christianity I'm a I'm a I'm a creative perfectionist and stubborn and strong willed and you know duplicitous and like I need like I I benefit I benefit greatly from having a model for me for what I think the the best the highest ideal of Love is which like I said is a self-sacrificial love right uh you know I'm totally down with that that's it yeah I just don't think he's God I don't think there's such a thing as a God I guess we'll find out yeah guess we'll find out rock on like I I do I'll name it you know but well that's kind of but I know that's not for everybody but that's kind of like buying the insurance when you get a rental car I mean that's not a good reason I'm not saying got an umbrella policy so I'm not saying that's why you're doing it but and yeah maybe you're right I mean that's I always say it in religionist I preach the gospel of I don't know you know people make much too big of a deal about the difference between atheist and agnostic it really is the same thing yeah totally look I I just you know there's like I think there there's good we don't have to get into it I I think there's good reasons though like people people people that were very close to him died defending the fact that he was a historical figure and that what he said was true and that they believed he was a messiah 11 of his 12 11 of his 12 Apostles yes oh um you know so uh I you know there's like there there are things that have happened historically that are verifiable that I think go to show that people that were very close to him very much believe this that's not historically verifiable that he had decided like that Paul lived and was was Roman that's what I'm talking about Paul was not a disciple he died oh no he well St Paul he had an interaction on the on the road to he okay that that he that many he would argue that he was because he had a personal interaction with but but you and I you you a nonbeliever okay I I got to give you the facts these are facts Jesus dies in 33 ad Paul was writing in the 50s he was Saul of Tarsus yes he had a vision on the road to Damascus it was a cross in the sky he never met Jesus and in fact one of the things that's so iffy about the gospels is that the gospels which were written 20 years after St Paul was writing know way more about Jesus than the voice that he was talking to so you have to believe in magic you have to believe in magic for it to be true right I accept that I accept it too I accept that you have to believe in magic and I admit I do believe in magic The Voice he was talking to said why do you persecute me and he was was he was trying to kill Christians and I love this is Christ that he's talking so I believe that he did have an interaction a personal interaction with the person that he died I see all right great and you know what I love that I I I don't have to agree with everybody on everything and I love my magic I Love My Magician brothers that's it that's it that's what it boils down to corner behind your ear yeah totally but that's what it boils down to and I admit I believe that that kind of magic is real and if it works for you I'm thrill totally as long but but so did Paul no so you can't say that he wasn't real historical figure this this Paul was a historical figure was undeniably not not a contemporary of Jesus sort of oh I see with the with the that's that people would people would argue this with him in his own day of course he his own not by our right not by the those standards of apostleship but um that but yes but but I would say that he was because of that interaction it's funny when I went we went to one of the stops in religious was Holy Land in Florida it's like it's a right right it's a it's a you know it's it's basically you know Disneyland for Christians right and I talk to the one of my favorite parts of the guy who plays Jesus in the thing and there's a whole pageant where we see him get walking on the villa de Roa you know with the seven stops and carrying the cross and people are taking pictures and um but but he you know I was asking him about the I said you know when I was a little catholic boy the first thing they said is you know they were very proud of the fact that they were mon this was a mon monotheistic religion that we had one God I think they were like thinking it was a big you know Flex over the p p pagans and heathens with their many gods they're so unsophisticated and we have one God and his name is God and he has a son Jesus who's also God and I was like wait right away I'm like didn't you just tell me it's aren't we over the limit and then he explained he said well it's like um ice and water steam it's all the same thing but it's in different forms and I was I told Larry the next day I think it's in the movie where I'm like you know he had me for a second like I'm really I'm going for this this is at least you have an answer yeah that is yeah and that's a tough man that's a tough it's a tough concept to understand how can you manifest three distinct identities and still be one to be your own dad yeah it's got to be you know come on yeah a subservient manifestation to the you know to the spirit manifestation it's hard it's hard for people to understand but that is and that also is that also is right if you you if you don't if you deny that you are not a Christian right the Trinity is the very core stick with your brand exactly it is the very core that's exactly you must you must again you must believe in this kind of magic you know when Frank does his thing yeah I'm like I you have to do that to like be you're the pope you got to be you know you you know that that phrase you know more Catholic than the pope right right nobody should be right totally totally and but and you you know he's got to like he's trying to move I I can tell he wants to move faster but you got to bring the flock with you not everyone in the parade is is at the head of the parade right you know and that's kind of important totally so well I'm glad we straightened that out if we fixed religion in just a you can't 30 minute sound pite we you can't you can't fix it but but you can talk about it and and I do think it is morphing into I mean where you are with it I'm very comfortable with because what's dangerous about it is when people are fundamentalist right that's when you get people flying planes into buildings totally think they're doing the right thing totally like none of those hijackers thought they were doing the wrong thing right they weren't like that's different than a psychopath you know they thought they were doing the right thing right and so do suicide bombers and people in Hamas and you know that that's what's my biggest thing about religion is that I I I'm 100% with you I I think I think there are terrorists with a little tea and they don't they don't realize said they don't realize that that's them uh and uh I would like to put a stop to that from my little corner of the world with what little platform I have I just don't I just you know that's not the way I got to I hope this isn't too personal but it strikes me as odd that someone would have uh religion on one in their life and also a psychiatrist really yes because I feel like they are because I feel like they're redundant in what they do like you used to to confession and tell your sins to the priest I did that many times little a Catholic scared the [ __ ] out of me and uh and then you went to a psychiatrist if you were nonreligious as your confession well yeah the priest would tell you that was wrong you're bad say 15 hell Marys and the and the shrink would tell you would you know well don't feel bad about it because but it was the same thing it was like but this is why I talk about this kind of stuff so openly because I not the same ground they I personally feel like there are three things that are very important to me that we destigmatize and learn to have conversations about in a healthy productive way faith family and mental health and mental health is something I've struggled with you don't know much about me personally but I've been very open with my struggles I'm bipolar I have ADHD been diagnosed with that and uh I'm a suicide Survivor it's when I was 35 and 35 yeah not long ago I'm 41 now and um so why didn't it work I I weirdly while it was happening I saw my kids but they were grown and they were totally calm and emotionless and they said Dad we want you here we want you to see all this and uh I I just CU I climbed up out of it but what the [ __ ] made you so sad depression is crazy dude oh yes it is depression is crazy I never I just a chemical thing yeah yeah and uh and and you wouldn't believe uh the the power that it has over you it doesn't matter how many muscles you got like it totally and it is a chemical there were I couldn't get out of bed there were people Mike Wallace was one of them I think dick havit was another one you may not know these people they but they were stars of of an elk in their day talked about how they were in therapy for years years years years years and then they just gave him a pill it was just a chemical thing you know they you just have to pour something in the test tube that is lacking and that is just it's really a sad thing because it's so simple and yet yes you can't beat it with your will or with anything else but if you don't if you're also I was not diagnosed with bipolar at the time but I had been manic for nine months and I was servicing all these I was a slave to so did they give you something that I did I got on medicine yeah I mean I so so that weekend the weekend it happened I went and got I I called the I I called the doctor when it was done and I said I need to speak with somebody immediately and I never talked to a psychiatrist interest about anything at that point anyway I went in and took some tests and I was diagnosed with bipolar and um and I I was like it it was hard it was hard to accept it first because I didn't want to be labeled but but there's so much power in understanding you know and having a label there's so much power in having an understanding of what that diagnosis is and now I can I've read dozens of books about it I've I've I've like i' I've spoken with professionals about it I've I've talked to doctors and you know just there's there's there's a way for me to manage this in a healthier way than than feeling like there's only one gift for me left for me to give which is suicide you know what I'm going to tell you something not that this was good that it happened but it actually is a great thing in for your future you know why because you're about to like embark on this trip to stardom you know you're right at that moment you know you've done a lot of work you just said it you're you're working so much you came and have a house mhm yeah okay okay you're at that thing now you're in the the guy Richie movie you're moving into this it's going to get really really heady right and you're goodlook you're big they you're going to need vulner something that makes you vulnerable because the the audience the the reason they read the tabloids is not to read how good people are doing right they want to feel like somebody who's a good-look very successful guy uh has some things in their life that actually are worse than mine and this will fit the bill perfectly he was so sad this guy that he tried to kill himself so um but you know depr depression looks funny because what people don't realize is I was making tons of money at the time I was very successful sure it was not it was not like things are not going well and I'm I'm crumbling under the weight of society right now like this was the opposite it was this it was it was a combination of this crippling you know existential like what's when you get to the top of your Ambitions what's left for you and and also um I you know I was um just had a falling out with some business partners and just think you know kind of a infuence of things that weren't going well and so it was it was excuse me you weren't at the top of your Ambitions at that point in time I was I was really you never wanted to get even higher come on you're you're just getting there now you're not even there yet I had you know I'd been I like you know I'm more a Creator than an actor right I I like being at the Genesis of ideas was I had written a I was I was Ghost writing for people so I was writing manuscripts for people selling screenplays I was directing films I was starring in a show I mean there was a lot dude I was taking all the boxes like you kind of go like there's not much higher there's just different but there's a level of doing that that you're about to get to that you're doing those things you just ticked off on your hand but on a better level you're working you're you're you're getting the best scripts you're you're working with the best director this is what's happening I totally understand you're getting your own own [ __ ] made you know there is a level so you know be embrace it how old are you kids uh we just had a birthday yesterday they're 1110 and eight oh all boys that's all boys and all Bunch together that's good makes it easier right no but yeah I guess if we're out of baby phase perhaps and you're gonna have more no dude I know it's not possible now and you it's not possible oh no you might know Ben manitz as a host on Turner classic movies now you can hear Ben an intimate conversation with some of the most influential filmmakers and movie boss of our time on the new podcast talking pictures from TCM and Max personal and honest conversations with the greats Nancy Meers Mel Brooks Emerald Fel and me I did it too I watched Reds and talked about it with Ben and had a blast listen to talking pictures on Max or wherever you get your podcast hey I'll be at the Jackie Gleason Theater in Miami Beach on March 23rd and March 24th at the Ruth eard Hall in Clearwater Florida April 20th oh my gosh 420 San Jose Center for the Performing Arts and San Jose perfect booking on that one see you there I totally get why everyone is apoplectic about the Supreme Court getting rid of our abortion rights because people just don't like kids anymore a lot of them and and they just want to make they want it to be their choice we are in a um despite what Barbie says about living in a patriarchy we are not living in a patriarchy and women today are definitely don't want that as a part of their life unless they want it but I totally understand why Frank has to be out there going you must to have a baby and he wouldn't like this either anything that stops at the baby and getting a maid we don't like yeah the baby it's a natural thing and more they always want more Catholics in the world that's more baby you can't make have more Catholics that more babies so you know but I I totally get it and three is uh three is already a handful dude I travel a lot like I'm on the road a lot that's hard also kids are like dogs like if you have two of them they get along pretty good but then three starts to become like a pack right yeah don't get too big for your Brites you know and I feel like they could uh gang up on you yeah they do they do they do but they're great and uh and it's funny because and they're okay with the nomadic life you know not so no no it's hard because it's hard to make friends how how do you make a friend when you have no Community but that may make them very strong individuals when they become or psychos yeah yeah we've got three serial killers on the way um we're breeding them right just yeah I like I but I don't know you know you're looking at it the way I try to look at it you know it's glass glass half full and and and this is going to work out to be a strength of theirs you know they're they're they're well-traveled and uh connoisseurs of many things that most kids don't experience and you know have seen a lot of culture and their minds have been expanded in way like you can try to justify that but at the end of the day these are these are 10-year-olds that want friends and they don't have any so here but let me tell you something they're going to um I'm looking to my crystal ball here they're like at this age where they're do they already have do they have phones and social media hell no phones good for you for why why would I good for you I give a child a phone well who's he going to call he doesn't have any friends most parents do most parents want to have their kids on this electronic tether absolutely not I mean I I've seen it not in life cuz I don't ever see children but I've seen it in TV shows and movies they all can't be mischaracterizing it where the parent uh texts the child who's upstairs right to come to come down to dinner get down here get down here no that's what they used to do yeah that's what we need more of that much more of that or I didn't even have to have that my town God bless my leaveit to Beaver upbringing My Town had a six o'l whistle oh right and when I heard when I was out playing Always by myself with no supervision as it should have been and it should be again but they would never allow that a child alone oh my God call 911 but uh I would hear the whistle and run home my dad had a hit a super his superpower was this shrill mean 18 miles away this thing Rings you know Rings your ears um so your kids don't have phones but okay they're still going to be at a at a very formidable age in their life like tween and teenagers they're going to become very very aware that Dad is yeah but dad's going to be like you know you're not like in the tabloids yet trust me I read them well I'm not you know I'm not a disruptive figure so there's not much to talk about but but you're going to be you're going to be a disruptive figure no in the Tablo no people don't want to talk about me you're wrong they you know like trust me you're wrong they're always looking for new they you're going to be in the tabloids interesting enough I'm just I just shut up let me keep my head down first of all they don't give a [ __ ] if you're interesting you don't have to be interesting I'm [ __ ] interesting nobody's more intered they don't cover me that much cuz I'm 68 and older and and male and heterosexual and a million other things but you I'm telling you you're going to be in the tabloids and your kids there's no way that they're not going to be aware of what's going on with your career and stuff it's I'm just telling you it's going to be an interesting they're well aware it's disruptive dude I'll have like we were trying to we were waiting outside of a restaurant uh waiting for a table and we all the time and my poor kids just get you know there's tunnel vision they don't they don't it's nothing malicious they just people don't realize it's going to get worse yeah um well well I'm not going to get my phone my a phone for my child is not the salv that I'm looking for so no that's not a um not going to be a problem but um yeah they they they already know it's a hassle but you like being on sets I feel like that's what I do that's like me on a set like see I hat it it is my I am so at home when I like a show I watch every minute of it and I've watched every minute of the first two seasons thank you yeah you know to thank me thank you I'm glad thank for watching well Keeps Us keeps us going uh I wouldn't I I don't watch anything I don't like I wouldn't I certainly wouldn't watch the whole thing I'd sample something right but um you know my I was at to dinner with people last night in my friends and they were talking about what do they were watching they were watching the one about Truman capot that's on now which I might enjoy I could enjoy that too and this other one about um Carl Lagerfeld was it or no some designer back in the' 40s and it sounded interesting also but like you know sort of slow and intellectual and they said what are you watching I said uh I'm watching richer and and high town she on Stars it's about you know the badass Sheriff Who's [ __ ] the stripper who's actually the baby mom of the of the drug ping like yeah I like I like hyp town I remember I watched Banshee remember bansi that was like my kind of show like Vikings yeah like it's TV don't [ __ ] tell me what I should be watching they call it Dad TV which is I don't really understand no but you're show like the the the uh plot resolution you know the sticking the landing I always say this I was talking to somebody the other day some director here and like it's all about the ending anybody can think of a good idea for a movie or a show it's how you end it right and like the resolution I thought it was very clever of where you go you know you start with a mystery at the beginning um like you know what whatever it was and then by the end oh it makes sense yeah it makes sense and it's the onion is slowly being unraveled as we go and you're giving the audience enough to be going what's in the next scene right but not too you know not too much where it's obvious but not too little so it's murky just a hair's breath ahead of the audience not a fan of murky yeah yeah no just it's a fine line yeah it's a fine line yeah and then some kicking ass and then a couple punches um no I like the relationship with you and the little blonde girl in the in the first one I I love Fitzgerald she played Rosco she she was great one of the best probably will be the best actress I've ever worked with for as long as I live she was so intensely she was so engaged she was good but come on let's be not be ridiculous you have a long that's not the only thing she's going to do no she I got a taste of it she's going to do great things I think she was great she's aru with you but okay great you're the greatest actor you'll ever work with Sarah burnhard would come back from the dead this chick would be better but uh I like I'm I I I kind of need a a love story Some Kind of Love Story and to keep me interested for a whole series like and so that was a good one okay yeah you know just the way it it evolved um well we got to hold Loosely to those love stories in Reacher because ain't going to last for long this is an anthology well we'll see we'll see who BL who yeah you know you never know totally but you're good now I mean did the shrink help with that yeah well that's what yeah I guess that's what I was going to say was was um you know there are things that psychiatrists offer that it's not really religion's purpose you know and so there's a there's there's there's a Confluence of of both cognitive therapy and science you know with medicine it's come a long way and when you put those together you get some you get some much needed help so we got to do both you know yeah I I mean I went to a psychiatrist a couple of times very briefly it was more like coup therapy at the behest of a you know someone I was in a relationship with um did fix all I could do to not laugh out loud I mean I'm know I know it helps a lot of people but it was just so much of it was just so LOL the idea that if you don't go through like nine psychiatrists though trying to find the right one you're doing it wrong is that right that's it you got to find the one that's for you just like just like dating you wouldn't marry the first person that you date what like the first no you go through 15 20 relationship but the idea that someone who I'm just meeting now could in any way know me better than I know me it's like there's so many things about me that I am just such an expert on and and the psychiatrist really would not be I I just I just but but you you've got you've got a you've got a micro version of yourself you're zoomed in because you're in there and there could be somebody who's uh really well-educated well-qualified individual to step back and help see the macro and see like there's a plot hole over here you know there's a little we to fill the soil in over here it's getting a little sparse the grass you know and we can pay attention to that area more and uh and and and sometimes it's important to have you know unbiased third party who's well qualified to do that for you yeah or you might like be you might be like digging up some [ __ ] that is better left buried I feel like oh F come on no you don't think anything nobody has benefited in the history of mankind from packing your dirt down harder that is not necessarily true you can't pull anything through the espresso if that shit's tamped down too hard you got to loosen it up a little bit uh in in many cases yes yes you're you're certainly right that you if you bury ideas and if you buried trauma and you you bury what you really think about something first of all it couldn't appear somewhere else in your physiology it will for sure manifest itself somewhere else in an ugly ugly way until it's gets it's raising there are some but people also just want to pick on scabs that just let it heal over you you can't do anything more about it and and just to keep the wound open I no I don't think a I don't think qu a well-qualified professional want to just pick a scab to see it I don't know about that I think people they they want they think it's smarter to just always somehow keep the you know who does that and and for them it's actually uh understandable actors because that's your instrument an actor is never any good unless they like have some turmoil inside that they're working off of am I wrong about that let me I don't think so here's the thing the first one of the first rooms I ever went in as an actor I had I was I was a final a semi-finalist on American Idol season 3 that was my first time to La American Idol I I was a singer so I was flown out for that you're a singer too yeah and and that was my first love are you going to go back to that after you're a movie star I don't I don't no I I found I found my passion you'll be no you're going to be like JLo in many different ways and then you're going to marry Ben AFF so that is the goal that's actually the it's been my mission for years me and I left FL um yeah I I uh no oh my gosh um no I I the first room I went in I I had somebody who was wanting interested in repping me because I I was on American Idol and and had done you know it was making my way into the business and the first question was what kind of trauma do you have and I was like oh you know I had a pretty pretty normal noral life like I'm not interested why like I can I can act like no I'm only the the the good actors are the ones with trauma and and uh if you don't have any you're not going to be interesting on screen and I just want to say that I think that's such horeshit but you got it you do have trauma and you're good on screen so why are we arguing wow right my TR I wasn't like you know I like everybody's got trauma in their own you know to their you know to some degree in respect but like I had a pretty lovely upbringing I mean issues with parents and and narcissism and all that but like but I was not like there there are people with real trauma and they're real broken and and it does not make them a better actor okay maybe not but in your case uh I'm going to start this story and then I was in my mid-30s and then we're going to freeze frame and go to 10 years earlier because we have to do that in every show totally fine please don't do that in re was totally fine will you promise me that are you doing more reachers of course okay so uh don't do that thing the 10 years earlier 6 months earlier we do it all the time we do flashbacks everybody has to do that why can't we just tell the story I'm with you no but you're not a heavy flashback show you're but those are like your flashbacks are good because they're within the context of it it it's it's natural um but but that whole like wait where are we now right is it right you know no I like you brought back the uh the dude the square dude who was the in the a little bit in the second season Malcolm it was perfect use of him great um it was great he's the best and then where does Reacher go in season three season 3 is about um based on the book Persuader one of the one of the most beloved books in the series oh so you're like James Bond you have the books to work off that's exactly right oh that's awesome it's almost we're approaching 30 books so we could do I could do this the funny thing about all these kind of shows or movies that are serials is like how does the guy just keep running into trouble I remember there was a show on called Murder She Wrote don't make a [ __ ] a it's a famous show the black and white it was not in black and white was it in Technic color yet yeah when you Dro dead at 49 of a heart attack um because you're you're you're too Squatch remember that yeah bigger people for sure my heart's going to give out quick exactly I'm with you I guess and then the and then you'll have real vulnerability and then you'll be in the tabloids I'll be begging you for yeah I'll be begging you for a defibrillator you're not going to but a Murder She Wrote it was this huge uh I guessed on it guested on it twice uh you know and she was lived in this small town it was Angela Lansbury she lived in this small New England town and it was on for like 8 n years I mean like you think of the amount of murders that had to happen tiny New England town but godamn it the like die hard like they did five of those like really once again he's running into terrorist this [ __ ] has the worst luck in the world there there decades worth of that's we want that and does he have a love interest this time every every year please you got have he's the the American James Bond exactly new you know new romances every where he goes yeah because he really liked that little Rosco but he didn't like it more than his nature right you know and that's you know Le he can admit that hey I've never been married I'm more richer than you in a way there you go but uh but yeah I I do understand that like um part of maybe that's one thing I really relate to that character is you know you it's all about I think it's all about about that like is your life in tomorrow I I can't ever be happy with what happened even though I have wonderful memories they're gone they're gone and they and it so it only tortures me if I can think about something that was great in the past that is not going to also happen in the future totally so you were married when you tried to um I was I had married with kids right I I I thought I thought that it was the the best gift that I could give them at the time was freeing them of the burden of myself and that's what a lot of people that you know people are you know those that are left behind confounded by Suicide how could they do this like they had a loving family they had a loving wife or kids or whatever how could they do this I can assure you they they with with with what faculties they had working they felt like it was the most loving thing that they could do right and that's that's what's so difficult about it because because in the confusion of depression that that that lack of of logic and reason takes hold and it seems logical that's that's a that's a Hallmark of bipolar as well is um a clinical lack of insight so how does your wife deal with like when you go out like I mean I I know guys like you that like chicks are always like trying to and chicks have no shame they don't care if you're with somebody that makes it even better yeah you know how does she deal with that she's uh in intensely strong look we both came from a small town and I I think you you say to yourself like I'll pursue this career but you can't imagine what the consequences of success in an industry like this bring going to get worse and when you have you know uh how do I say this when you have sex icons throwing themselves at you trying to destroy your marriage actively trying to destroy your marriage you know you bet your ass she's damn strong to you know what you know because you you don't ask for that I it's like you you can you can very well not invite that in your life and still be dealing with people trying to actively destroy your marriage sounds like you need a friend to hang with you I think I need sort of I need more you I'll call you next time guy you could like you know you Wiman take the Overflow take them off your hands make your wife feel better and also satisfy um yeah yeah well I'm I'm sure but I'm I think you're probably also being modest I think uh it wouldn't work if you didn't help and participate I mean you can't you can't be iffy on that you can't be like I know people you know who are like well you know I flirt I just never really do it it's like yeah that's not good either yeah no no in a way that's worse and that's not real that's not a real relationship that's not a real relationship if if that's if that's who you are and you're you're genuinely like entertained by this idea of uh playing with fire that's not real right like that's not fair to the other person I genuinely genuinely uh deeply love and want a marriage I I love my wife I want a marriage I want my family to be intact I fight for it you know I fight bipolar I fight Mania I fight my my own personal demons you know and my own manly Primal Des is like it's all out there and we talk about it and and and we just we we go we we go to war right we go to war and it it [ __ ] is a war dude it's a war it is it yeah dude what this industry that I'm in I'm talking the industry with with what like what comes at you what pulls at you what tries to destroy your marriage like it's oh I see it's all of it it's it's real it's real you know and and so uh we really really work hard yeah I can see to stay married you know and and uh it takes a concerted effort um absolutely dude and and but but I mean it nutty I I mean it it's nutty no for it's so worth it though for for but it's not for everybody it look and and I think there's a problem a little bit of a problem in our society where we say that the model for healthy successful joyful living is a married couple and we demote this idea of a single individual a second class that's not right that's not true there are a lot of very very meaningful purpose-filled lives that are single individuals you're reading my lines there but like we we should like you are not second class because you've decided to sing like it's true and and and like you know talking about the Catholic church and institutions we've been we have been told for so many years by large institutions that the model for successful Healthy Living is a married couple that's not true you can have a deeply meaningful life and be sing of course I mean it's all it's all just about personal taste it's the way it's the chip that's put in our brain when we're born I mean you can laugh at me and I'm perfectly fine with that because I laugh at them and to me it's it's it's Preposterous it's ridiculous it's like really I mean can't don't you get tired of that person seeing the same human being every day and and like like oh that's funny it's so funny name said the world's a banquet and most poor sons of [ __ ] are starving that's so funny no I like I think there's something so deeply satisfying about a love that there is time and that like oh it's just oh I crave it dude with every fiber of my being like no yeah there are other interesting people in the world but there I I just I think I found my person yeah that's that's awesome I mean you should definitely send her this podcast because I mean definitely she couldn't care less about listening to my podcast anymore no but like this tribute to her uh it's very very much become about connection you know like I have a deep desire to connect um with her entire person her body mind soul right and it's become this thing where like I'm telling you you can look in the eyes of somebody that you deeply care about and the and there's you just you it's it's this act of like I can't possibly get any closer to you than I am right now and I wish I could and it's this beautiful moment of connection that's really truly what it is and I think I think when people discover that that's what the potential of you know that's that's where the potential lies in that that kind of intimacy if people haven't discovered this for themselves yet maybe explore this idea of it truly being about how deeply can we connect In This Moment instead of getting ourselves off or being gratifying to some self-serving degree I think it that's when it becomes special and and it took me a long time I we had we had to run into some really hard times for us to really appreciate that that's what it is like and what are hard times all about oh it's hard you're going to fight and do you ever really forget do you ever really Forget Where You buried a hatchet but I think I think I think I think you people have said variations of this but I think love is uh knowing exactly where those weapons lie and deciding not to use them you know like you know where the you know where you've buried all these hat right and that's that's uh you got to trust each other and that's that is a great definition of Love yeah so um yes you know we we definitely know where where to where we can hurt each other you know but we choose not to because we care deeply so um but things are good things are good yeah but it's you know this business is hard man and and and doing life building a family on the road together is hard and trying to know when to give each other space to like you know connect with Community like our kids for example we put them in school for like a like a semester my my prediction you're going to buy a house within three years I think this I well I think we have to we have to figure out a way to do it CU think you our kids need it you know our kids need that and you're going to need it um you're GNA find I think that you're going to like it you're going to like okay this is home I don't know I'm a pretty I'm a raving mad artist I I'm a lone wolf I but my kids and my wife will like it I am too but we all mellow Freud said there's only two things in life love and work I put my eggs in well I can count on the work cuz that's me you can count on yourself I can count on myself the love is super important and I can't live without it but that's not going to be I I I see that I can't count on that as much now this is again deeply psychologically hell yeah deeply psychologically hear me out hear me out yes okay so I'm working with Jason Hall who wrote American Sniper incredible writer I just watched it again incredible writer we're developing a project together wow and um he he said it really beautifully he said you know Joseph Campbell's entire you know hero's journey sure can be summed up like this the protagonist refusal to release the refusal to release that what the hero's journey right release what that's exactly the question you have to answer with your script the Kraken right you've done that more than once refusal to release what is it we got to find we got to find what that is what have we refused to release for you could it be that you've found a safe harbor in the work there's not there's not much work you have to do there because the the fire is ignited and there's not a challenge there there's nothing really to refuse to release but in relationship you have to give up your power and you have to give up control and safety and the feeling of security you know I'm a control freak control freak see I can't do that can't Release Control I don't want to uh I was in a relationship when I was uh from like 32 to 37 like the exact time I should have gotten married if you were going to get married right but yeah so I've been I've been down the path and then I've been another you know serious you know that was five years other ones lasted like 3 3 2 so I know the drill I know what it's like and and I know the sacrifices and I know the gains I know that the you know it's it's very nice to have someone who you know they have your back yeah and you know you can you know you don't you have security but I feel like this tension between security and excitement will never go away and for me look Allan water rolls downhill it's always going to roll toward excitement interesting interesting yeah and I I'm so Cur I know it's interesting to talk to people who are not like you right oh yeah oh it is because we're not like each other but that's it I mean like you know people always said to me my whole life you know don't let your dick rule your life don't think with your dick and I always said why not it's going to win anyway I feel like my dick is like the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park they're going to get out you know you could you could try to write the end of this movie 10 different ways but there's only one way this movie we can end the dinosaurs get out right that's hilarious that is hilarious wow but you're you're a better man than I because you're more mature and all that stuff and but you're going to be tested I know I have to let you go CU I got a plane and by the way thank you for doing this I I don't know appreciate it I know you came here to do this I know you're always on the road so I can't be that bigheaded about it you got to be you got to be somewhere that's not where you're supposed to be at any moment so you put this on your stop and I know you got to get back on the road but um I really did enjoy your show I don't enjoy that that many shows and I wanted to do this because I was like well I'm going to get this guy right before he's too big to do it because he's going to be too big to do it but I hope you won't forget us I wanted to do this I I wanted to do this I I enjoy the conversations you have yeah I appreciate that and I'm deeply curious I just I'm fasc this this was more fun than a barrel of monkeys I I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did I fig I was going to ask you one other thing before I went into that but I forgot oh should I do my uh I'm at the uh Hobby Center for the Performing Arts so smooth Allan isn't it in Houston March 2nd March 3rd the Performing Arts Center in El Paso oh this means your show is going to air very quickly so it'll be right after your movie what's the name of your movie that just came out which one ordinary Angels it's out today ordinary Angels out February 23rd and then I'll be March 23rd at the Jackie Gleason Theater in Miami J we get to any least you ever get to Miami I did just went there with my wife do Miami together come tell me when you're going I'm there I want to March 23rd at the theater you're always on the road get your hobo stick that's what I picture you you have a hobo stick with the clothes yeah that was a funny bit in the thing where where you in the run where you uh never get the pie right and by the way I waited all season to actually have that pie cuz they kept going would you like a piece before you go for the day and I'm no no I'm going to wait until the very end of the season it was it was the worst pie I think I've ever had my entire life amen that was great thank you brother thanks for coming my pleasure all right all right man

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Length: 74min 22sec (4462 seconds)

Published: Sun Mar 03 2024