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foreign [Music] about to introduce the last time he came on our show he said Brothers we gotta go back to Africa and it seems like since then people are going back to Africa they going back to Nigeria Ghana in so many different places that we gotta go I know you've been to South Africa this man you just went through his discography and when I tell you he got hits upon hits I like he oh he almost remind me of the Seal of this generation you know how seal no one no one gave a [ __ ] with what what race seal was he just made the best music and everybody said [ __ ] it you roll with seal God damn it he's the Seal of this generation he got the illest haircut in the world right now after the hit my first time going to Africa I'm going with him I see he just went with uh earn your leisure did y'all go to Africa actually Africa oh wow we gonna get into that we're gonna get into everything but Casey I don't know who we talked about we talking about the one the only [ __ ] ain't God [Applause] it's you know it was very interesting going through your discography and I'm listening to locked up right because when I Googled you one of the things that popped up was they said you was a professional when you Google you that's actually something that comes up that says that uh yeah I believe you said it on a different platform so you used to this is in New Jersey I imagine New Jersey Drive [ __ ] huh Jersey Drive yeah yeah this is a while ago so how what happened someone come up to you and say that's just because because you're a sophisticated car Stiller like you wasn't like popping [ __ ] you was changing the serial numbers and she's like that is that true it was a I just started this [ __ ] you're gonna break the ice break time just expect that every time but how did that happen um well getting back to the past it was like I was never the kind of person when it came to some you know what's interesting like I I think I say the word that I was I I kind of used the excuse that I was surviving because it made me feel better about it right but that is none for me to buy it was because my parents was actually really wealthy you know um we lived I was I was living in Jersey we lived in a three-story house just me and my older brother wow you know what I'm saying so just yeah now when I think about it we were just bored as hell it was interesting was as I start watching a lot of my homies you know they were selling drugs and I didn't understand like why such hard labor for no money right these [ __ ] would be like on a corner rain hell snow I was born in Senegal in St Louis oh St Louis St Louis but then I was raised in Senegal raises yeah well I was a Senegal from birth uh when we burn the synagogue I mean Saint Louis shipped to uh Senegal then when I was about seven to eight that's when my mom and pop brought us back to the states to go to school and every summer we would go back to Senegal wow so he wanted pretty much my dad just wanted to make sure he was all born in the U.S you know he's always full of thinking since then right he wanted to have a U.S Pastor yeah he wanted us to be U.S citizen so we'll never have immigration issues so he was always thinking about the future you know what I mean so when I came here it just it was just a matter of adopting and I think a lot of my choices came from just wanting to be a you know acceptable accepted right amongst the the crowd so that's how I got caught into you know all the things that I got caught into including cars because cars made me feel special you know I was young I can drive into the most elite vehicles and in Iran with the you know this narrative that I was a African prince you know what I'm saying so he was using that back then yeah yes after coming to America yeah I was working at this Barber Shop man and you know I met this Jamaican dude that was like yo you know you know he was in the cars and I was like man every time I see you in a different car and one day he's like rude boy let me show you something you know he took me to the spot took me I was like wow I was mesmerized and I was like how much are these he was like 2 500 a piece I said what how was that and he showed me the whole layout and before you know it I just copied and pasted now like literally every other month now I will come to school in a different car and they was like yo where's you know and they believe it because of the whips when I was driving and so then I said this could be something you know that I can actually make a career out of now that's how I'm thinking back then right so I was just trying to figure out the best way to do it then that's when Atlanta hit me because I was getting out of high school graduating my box and my mom's in Atlanta because my dad was a a professor doing culture exchange at Clark Atlanta University and that's when they just had the Olympics going over there with Freaknik and everything I'm about to say Freaknik you know what I'm saying so when I went out there I saw all these just young black just really successful black people I ain't seen that many black people successful in one city since New York you know what I'm saying like it was even in Africa you ain't seen well no because I wasn't there long enough to understand what that was at that time you know so but so that was just different but I saw a lot of new athletes coming out a lot of artists out there and then everybody was driving so I was like this could be the spot right you know so that's where I just set up Shop New Jersey and no in Atlanta he said he said everybody's driving so it's a market what she was talking for it I'm like y'all paying three well at that time 100 150 000 was probably the most you'll pay for a car but those are even the super hotline because at that time even 90 000 was a lot for a Porsche you know what I'm saying so if I can get it to you for like 10 grand right you know you was legit into that oh no I was that wasn't like a Pastime for a teenager today it was no it became a real it became a real occupation for me because I started finding the ins and outs like most people will go out Jack people for cars right and then of course me it was always the biggest profit for the less jail time right so I started studying a lot and I realized man Joyride in charge misdemeanor you get out the same day wow but the only way you can get hit for a joy ride in charge you actually have to have the key so if you actually have the key in the car it's considered a joy ride so I was like if I can just guess he's he's in the car exactly right there's other people out there okay now the stuff back then you can't even do it today now you got the navigation you got OnStar you got all right on your phone you can track your vehicle so it's like you know so so the mo so the crazy part so what I ended up doing was I started going to the dealership and start peeling keys and pretty much what that means like you know you're just going if you see a key on the table you just grab that bad boy go to the bathroom hit the click see which one opens up and if the car light up jump in and pull out right at the dealer at the dealership because you gotta stand car dealerships is mad busy all the time yeah you can't keep track of everything they're not even thinking about it they see you in the car pull a lot they think you you think you test driving or something right or you might have just purchased yeah you might be a customer of this yes so after a while they start seeing my face come through all the time they're like this is a great customer person so every time my face got burnt out then I had to get another car dealership to go to but then after a while it was only with so many car dealerships and I had to find a whole new method right then I started hitting the valet parking oh that's what a business was because he was putting the valet jacket on no oh okay he probably that's a great idea that's a great idea [Laughter] it really ain't because what happens is clearly like first of all it's not it's not easy to get a valet jacket that matches the the comfort that you're doing that's number one and they know each other and they all don't right so they'd be like yo who are you doing over here with your jacket off right so I took the I took the diploma diplomatic approach I said yo let me just negotiate with these things oh yo how much like do you actually make how much are they paying you they was making like you know fifty dollars a week plus tips wow and I'm like well even with tips how much you actually made they said well pulling off maybe 200 a week I said all right cool if I give you a thousand dollars a week thousand dollars a week guaranteed you just give me the spare key of any car that got a spare in it wow so you don't take it there you take it when they go away wow if you can do that for me and all I need is the key and a piece of mail out there with an address wow that's all I needed so boom they will get that to me I just wait maybe a week two weeks later pull up late night call me park right there in the front jump in out and that was it like it was a real business wow but then don't forget you still have to get the paperwork done for it you got to get VIN numbers and all that but so the beginning you just selling hot cars you get caught Bros drive at your own risk right right all right the car is only 500 though like just these are squatters right but then once you build up enough money create the pawn shop I mean um the the the the uh what you call it uh Chop Shop so then I had a chop shop where I had some Mexicans over there that was super dope with cars they used to come to the Mexicans they would chop it up for me change the serial number then I had to get it registered so I will go to the DMV and I would just look for the most vulnerable insecure overweight check I wasn't ready for that either I'm about to go to hell you know but you know you know you just Vanessa you don't take her out to eat all right you know you just dangle the character you never beat you never hit it you just always make it believe that one day it's gonna go down and she'll just do anything for you so I was like look baby you know right now I'm going through some things you know I got a few vehicles that I got but you know they ain't paid me for it you just came off the truck she was completely drink like green didn't have no clue I just need you to get these registered for you man you know every time I said one I just give you some money out of it and that's all it took and before you know every car we got chopped it got it registered then now we're in business by the time we start selling Atlanta it wasn't not nobody that was coming through Atlanta wasn't getting calls from us but let me ask you how if if you ever got caught how would you get caught how about the police uh well that's the thing like I okay and that was a mistake that I made okay but normally I wouldn't I never really get caught because I always went through middleman so I was just a supplier and I would give it to the person that would go out and sell it out my only rule was don't sell squatters to dope boys because that's how you get [ __ ] up like don't whatever you do don't sell it's no drug dealers because the problem with them is they drive any conditions they move they dry and dirty like they give you all the reasons right for them to start investigating right so after so many dope boys get caught then now they're like okay well all these cars are kind of come on they can stop following the situations before you know what it leads all back down to them and then they're gonna ratch you out and in time that's exactly what ended up happening oh so when we went to trial because I ended up getting a trial nobody recognized me all right so my attorney was just super amazing he was like look man you know he's he's a customer like they are I didn't even I honestly I didn't know my car was even stolen I was just driving I thought I thought it was legit well now they know [Laughter] it never happened again another once in a lifetime opportunity um do you see like uh foreign you know what actually um Swiss talked to my little brother about it you talked to boo about it and and boo kind of hinted it okay to me um but I was just never I don't know I think I think the the I love verses to watch it all right but I think some Legends um in their right I thought it was a mistake for them to get on it because I think sometimes when you contribute to a culture this big your music should never be compared it should be more celebrated than you know competed to an extent I know maybe in the beginning a party wasn't meant to be competition right but it's now turned into a battle Yeah and I don't want to put myself in a position where I'm kind of relinquishing someone else's Legacy because I really don't believe there's too many people that can go against me [Applause] so basically you're going against yourself that was the most humblestackiest [ __ ] I've ever heard no but top which would be dope uh a lot of people always compare Lil Wayne to Drake and they said if they would do it together but it wouldn't work because well uncp Lil Wayne found Drake that's like me finding T-Pain yeah I gave him all my secrets I gave him all my resources I created the monster that's gonna come against me like if anything I'm a sick T-Pain on everybody else pass him then you get to me wow you were T-Pain double teams I like that now that'll work me and T-Pain together against somebody else all day because T-Pain love that kind of smoke I got goosebumps you know what I'm saying first double team guess hello I don't know about that man it's too dark skin against light skin okay hold on because it shouldn't be R B singers I mean you can't be Chris Brown that's the thing oh Chris Brown actually that's that Honesty will be I would love to watch that myself [Music] that's what I'm saying like I love to be entertained by right but it's also that fear right because what Usher built like sometimes what the the scariest particular he might come out with roller skates no but all that's cool confused all of us yeah but see this this is the thing right this generation don't appreciate music the way our generation did right so the way we value what Usher brought to the table this generation may not see that it may lean more towards Chris and vice versa the elders might not you know uh um you know appreciate what Chris brought to the you know to this industry you know what I'm saying because even now when I look at Chris Brown I always believed that he could have been the only person that can come behind Michael Jackson right Chris is that talented yeah like he is [ __ ] genius yeah I mean from an artist standpoint from a performance standpoint Imaging like he's a global Superstar all right you know what I'm saying right but I think sometimes it's a matter of how we harness and how we you know package our talent that we can claim and take it to that next level it's almost like okay let's say if we introduce the versus concept to the pop Community I want to see that they're going to turn it down I want to see Christina Aguilera against but they're not going to do it yeah listen I mean that's a different kind of version Let Me Explain um Backstreet Boys I'm in no we would all be here but that day will never come yeah you know why because they see things differently they preserve culture they preserve Legacy we compete against it all right like blacks and whites are two different mentalities all right we're combative like we're all African right so regular white no white Spirits let's get back to South Carolina the intro was just so amazing so I couldn't cut you off okay I couldn't cut you off yeah very very very very very very very clear South Africa is the real Africa yeah see this what happens right any amazing part of Africa that's beautiful that attracts tourism that's it ain't really the real Africa right but if it's poor poverish and and you know full of diseases or plagues oh yeah be careful that's don't want to be in that part of Africa so they claim the poor part for Africa to say okay that's Africa but then if there's anything that's enticing or inviting about Africa they say well that's not really the real Africa and that's what we got to break right because you know South Africa's credit they had help by the British to actually help to develop the apartheid right right which was the smallest population no mind you period but those are real Africans Like Them White Boys over there yeah that's why they call Africans yeah yeah yeah [Music] that's crazy so certain parts of Africa of South Africa the white folks are the ones in the ghettos yeah if you go to South Africa the richest people in South Africa are the black ones in Cape Town and then in the in the flatsburg like they're like everywhere you go there's areas where there's poor people but the poorest areas of the poor Parts where the white folks are yeah wow I didn't know that yeah yeah as a matter of fact it's a Netflix um special on that it's Netflix special on that I gotta remember the name though but if you if you if you Google I mean if you search South Africa on there it and I'm telling you and they have an amazing hip-hop scene and and I went into Johannesburg and they got a spot called the uh what is it called the oh cool oh man uh slaughterhouse and it's in the it's in their language but and it's like a crazy MC battle place is dope dope scene out there man right [Music] [Applause] [Music] all right so I would say Nigeria is compared to New York City if I had to compare something that's definitely scammers this camera's everywhere that Nigerian prince is probably anymore I'm a Nigerian prince [Music] [Music] this could be debatable but the Nigerians are the most smartest people on the planet right yeah I believe so I promise you there's nobody more smarter than a Nigerian now of course there's been there's a few bad apples that came out you know no they're extremely small they just put their intelligence all in the wrong place or something more you know positive or productive because the ones that did there's more there's more billionaires being made in Nigeria than anywhere in the world on an annual basis took that email they make all the places to the credit of them though you if you get greedy right they don't ask you to do anything they just present it to you and then your greed get caught in that way because I'm giving 1500 right ingredients put your ingredients and then it was crazier is that after you get got there's nobody else to blame but yourself because you know better I'm gonna be honest anything that's too good to be true you know who is always too good to be true what's the [ __ ] they they was hunt him down and they made you buy the shirts Coney right Coney Cody I donated [Music] I don't know I don't know I still don't got my shirt I'm like wait is he comparing that to Africa it was Coney he was doing some bad [ __ ] yeah and it wasn't then he was like yo donate to him and we're gonna get I was like word it's like dude in San Francisco my t-shirt and that's what I started complaining something ain't right about this that is too funny so you say Nigeria is the first well I mean it depends on what you're going there for like every place has its destination and has especially for what you want to do a huge continent huge yes North Africa how big Africa is right you see how big United States is right you could take five United States and fit it inside I mean all 50 two three four states whatever you take them all put them inside Africa five times that's how big the continent is wow that's how big it is so it's a matter of like any and everything you want to do like you got East Africa you got South Africa you got West Africa North Africa everywhere you go there's destinations for what it is you want so it depends on what you're going there for right you know now I said anybody got questions for acorns yo man in the U.S mad at him for messing with China man listen honestly personally to be honest bro yeah I me I would want the US to take more initiative in Africa they've have done it this year though really really you know yeah they flew in a lot of African presidents um created this huge you know the initiative in DC you know but it was a great conversation it was a great start but I just think they're a little bit 10 12 steps behind right the Chinese the area where the Chinese got smart was they realized okay therefore are they already they already don't create enough manufacturing plants to supply the whole world right yes Americans are their biggest suppliers America then Europe This is why the US is in debt to the Chinese already they Supply the U.S with so much but after a while you can only Supply but so much because that's only a certain amount of population there the reason why China is so powerful because they got over a billion people over there right within China in itself but for the most part they start a value in Africa though all right they said okay cool Africa got close to two billion people right right it's underdeveloped so human resources to them is more important than actual resources itself because they've seen what it done for them themselves right so now imagine if you combine two billion people of China in partnership with two billion people in Africa and then you have all the resources and all the factories for distribution to the globe is that why the currency is is uh the currency is China um the bricks the time of bricks which is China China Russia Brazil Brazil they're trying to create their occurrence oh well I mean they heard that ringer since 88. it's a conversation that's being had of course it's going and Saudi Arabia is kind of like in the mix of the US dollar if that happens so I don't think it's gonna be something that's going to be easy to accomplish because it's just too many interesting at play but if it does happen it's gonna be a it's going to be a us is going to have a huge problem right and China's been involved in Latin America too they're doing the same thing everywhere you don't understand they have been quiet all right all right you can go to any Hood anywhere in the world and you're gonna find them that's what they're doing and then you can go to any place in the world there will be a Chinatown always from and this is going back they've been they've always been non-controversial yeah right you've been to China I love China you love China really I love it out there I just can't stay there too long though why I need the food the food is just it's not my kite my type right right the food is small it's just uh the portions the portions are pretty small but it's it's just too healthy really it's too healthy you need some gluten I need yeah yeah I need fat I need cholesterol I need all that like I can't it's that American [ __ ] yeah it's too healthy okay it's too healthy one of the things that Michael blacksman who's my friend but um he he turns me off every time I see him eat it the way he eats Fufu is hard have you ever seen him eat food did he put on his face he like that I'm like how can you tell me this is good and you're gonna do it [Music] his hand away from his mouth he acts like he's enjoying it but as he's chewing it he puts on the pit bull face like a Pit Bull is attacking the cheese and I'm like so but are you a fan of Fufu me I'm not really a fan of Fufu specifically I don't yeah I don't I don't like Fufu as much but I like everything else Fufu is the only thing I don't like as much food was like Mofongo right it's the plantain yeah it's the thing you yeah well the phone myself I like but it's the okra sauce that comes with okay and I don't like the texture of okra right you know what I'm saying but because it got that stuff and some other sauce like the peanut butter sauce they come with different sauces but the the reason why they call it Fufu is because of the okra Oh I thought it was because of the bread the bread well I mean it's yeah yeah yeah it's a combination yeah but it's it's a it's a team effort like one don't work without the other you know what I'm saying right so so what's your favorite African dish uh it's Jello fries for sure what Jello rice jealous jealous yeah sounds I don't sound delicious what is it tell us so jollof rice is originally from Senegal West Africa that's where I'm from um Ghana's um Ghana has adapted it very well Nigeria is always in competition with Ghana on who makes the best jollof rice okay and then you have Liberia also that makes it really really good wow right um but it's it's an old traditional uh recipe that's made with rice and tomato paste so the tomato paste is what makes it red right but in synagogue you have two types of jello if you have the the red gel off and you have the white jell-off the white jollof is made with like onions and you know more broth right you know what I'm saying but the taste of it is just it's like an African version of fried rice to an extent that's probably the best way to kind of explain it because with after the rice is done they let the bottom of the rice Burn yeah so it's like you get that that burn Smoky and then that smoke goes through the rice and you can taste that smokiness in it it's delicious all right that's that's the burnt part is done this this is why I've been a Dr a lot whenever I eat that boy it reminds me of Joseph you know what I'm saying so so we all know that music we all know the original man comes from Africa right right I remember you know reggae music coming making its mark uh you know then uh you know Spanish music all that so on so forth for interesting to kind of like seem like it it it it it it's 360. and now it's like afrobeats is like so [ __ ] popular right it's huge I I never saw this coming like I never saw it obviously I I we know the music originates in Africa so for it to come back it's something that's very very beautiful but I personally didn't see this is this something that you've been saw that you you knew that bro since 2007 wow I was in labels trying to get this going like it you man you'd be surprised how good it makes somebody feel when you've been saying you want to say like I told you so so loud you know what I'm saying like yeah but it's I kind of I think Latin music kind of came through the same tunnel because with reggaeton it was the same thing nobody expected it to be this big and dominated you could say that like you know what I'm saying you can say that on everything yeah they didn't yeah they didn't yeah God did God [Music] I think it's the same thing I think now people are getting more you know open to different sounds and different music not actually start you know you can now see Melodies change into something that sounds familiar to you that back then was foreign you know what I'm saying so when you listen to a lot of the afrobeat music today you'd be like wow it actually makes sense because when you go from reggae music to reggaeton and now afrobeat within all in the span of 10 15 years in America is like it's all the same you know what I'm saying it was just a matter of who was a Gatekeepers that would allow that music to come in and that was a challenging part trying to get them to understand that yo this is bigger than you think it is right yeah you know like International this is huge already if it breaks in America this could be the biggest turnover for y'all from a financial standpoint that you've ever seen but it's just a matter of just now digital actually allowed that because of YouTube you think they were trying to keep people from working internationally that closely because it might change the way that business is done domestically um actually I wouldn't go that far but I would say that they didn't understand the music well enough to know how to move it around okay and I think a lot of the times when you look at executives they they they kind of move on either excitement because they know what they got or on fear because they don't know what to do with it you know what I mean instead of just putting it out and let it find its own audience they want to be the a r to decide what goes out and what's going to be a hit and what's not there's nothing right right because they only you know they make the decision according to what they see all right and most of them never even left America so they wouldn't even know where to start right I I remember um like I was saying this to DeVito uh um a friend of mine who's from Senegal right but he lives in Paris and he kept he kept telling me about afrobeats but he didn't have he didn't have it wasn't a word right right he kept saying listen man we have African reggaeton and I was like because I'm assuming I'm assuming reggaeton could only be Spanish I'm not I'm I'm not smart enough to understand that this is a global thing right and then he was playing me this and I was just like wow and then when afrobeats uh or blew up like I said my boy 18 he's from Senegal he just lives in Paris he called me every day I told you [ __ ] I was like damn he was right right and he was right but listen Akon our show was about giving people their flowers while they're alive we want to give you a flowers face to face [Applause] are you like the first African artist or first African uh no African because he wasn't born you said you was born in St Louis but but obviously you're still considered well I mean this is the thing like I don't think where you're born decides where who you are right because in our case my mom and father was born raised full-blooded Senegalese but pops decided to make sure we was born here right just to ship us back right yeah it was a transactional reason you understand what I'm saying so that's why when I identify with Africa it's just a little bit different because that's where my childhoods began and then when I came to the states I was here just more to go to school because every summer we would go back home until I graduated high school I decided to stay let me ask you you know the whole thing with New York Puerto Ricans right right and in Puerto Ricans from the island right right and for years Puerto Ricans from the island just thought they was better than us I'm sorry that's how we felt about y'all sorry like they we felt like they felt like they were like the real Puerto Ricans and like I mean actually technically they are the real Puerto Ricans because y'all are more Americanized yeah but they we watching us on TV yeah that's not but did they just say technically different you know they grow up with chickens in our backyard why are you going at your own people bro they just the the Puerto Ricans in Puerto Rico are a little bit closer to the culture yeah that's what they're trying to say they're not saying that you ain't Puerto Rican they're just saying well we're actually here you know it's a place in Puerto Rico called Louisa uh you know that's the where the slaves got dropped off right you are light-skinned out there compared to them but all of those [ __ ] came from Senegal I'm not even joking that last spot yeah they dropped off in Puerto Rico they dropped off in Haiti and they Cuba Haiti became Dominican Republic because of the Spaniards came and mixed up with the Haitians wow yeah they're all Portuguese you hear that Mr Lee yeah so Portuguese y'all [ __ ] is more African than we are why you think y'all move the way y'all move God damn it think about it think about how we like how we communicate with Puerto Ricans come [Music] be like [ __ ] you then just think about it like right because like we look at each other as one right right you follow what I'm saying like so we it's like our history is intertwined it's not even it's not even a question yeah that's a beautiful thing you know what also was something beautiful I seen on the internet the other day they said something that could and you said this on our show years ago it said something that was going to help boost uh Africa's economy is AF is if African-Americans stop going all back it's gonna start going back and I see somebody like I think this was like a preacher or something like he was just and I was like damn Acorn said that [ __ ] like seven years ago on our shows you you think that's it that's still True to this thing it's 100 I think Africa will start to become it's to its fullest potential when y'all all go back home right like and even y'all what's interesting is that everything that y'all fighting for over here you actually you get in a on a silver platter over there like it's like you it's like you guys want to suffer like y'all [ __ ] just want to just be [ __ ] because you don't have to be it's like it's like believe me they wouldn't want nothing better than the ship all y'all [ __ ] back to Africa but they're not even knowing this for your best interest y'all would actually be better off wow you know what I'm saying no more crying no more like marching no more getting killed by cops all right no more crying racism because y'all are the majority over there you know what I'm saying um is supposed to be that originally well it wasn't a return a lot of the free slaves helped begin uh helped create Liberia I can't give you too much stories all the flags if you notice every flag got a meaning right but it's always got the meaning that's attached to whoever colonized them but history nowadays I don't know what to believe in him it's all convoluted right it's all convoluted everybody has a different story of what took place around that time so the accuracy is very slim but when you stop and you think about just basic Common Sense some of the things that happen can easily be un like returned right and redone like but it's all in the mind State you know once you got your mind set on something that's what it is it's like Nori he just want to go to Africa to get [ __ ] like he got to get scammed otherwise I gotta lose my credit card that's the experience you got to go through that first and then say all right cool now who don't have to talk about to give me the history on how I can get it back so if I gotta scam him to educate him oh this is Africa yeah I want to do that [Music] that's real man because um like a lot of us I remember uh me being scared to uh I I send in my 20 what is that for the shots and all that will you will you get your thing 23 and me yeah oh you made for the DNA yeah and I remember my wife doing it and I'm being like ah I think you don't want to know where you're really from and I was like not really you didn't do it I actually I actually swabbed or whatever it was I just never gave it to her I was like I don't know man I was just like man I don't know what I did with it but I'm gonna do it this time because you got to do it bro because obviously when you when you're Puerto Rican which I'm half Puerto Rican half black um part of you uh goes to Spain right but that's not where it ends that's where like that's just one little small piece one puzzle yes it's Puerto Rico because we don't come from Puerto we don't come from Cuba yeah yeah most Caribbean Puerto Ricans right y'all DNA gonna Trace back to Portuguese yeah I'm just waiting for my people or whatever they say yeah Cubans are the most African when it comes to the Latin side of the world without a doubt Jesus Christ bro that's [Music] [Laughter] oh no what a chance today all right so we're gonna give you two choices you pick one uh we good if you say both or neither we drinking got it all right so the first one is Chris Brown or Usher let me get my drink wow both okay so see he gonna say it's free no no that one that one listen they both to me are equal when it comes to operations right generation no I never Drake never drink never at all but I did have I did sip it by accident one time I thought it was water bro my chest got sold I was like what bro it was a nasty [ __ ] I ever tasted and no The Taste was it linked in my mouth for a week I was like how did y'all drink even if I thought about drinking after that I would never drink ever that [ __ ] no I was in Dubai oh in Dubai that's why I thought it was white but some unfortunately the resorts [Music] they make money off of the drinkers else too trust me it's Gotta Be they got an underground [ __ ] you just got to be underground son you drink what'd you drink I drink nothing uh bigger bigger to my boy Geico who just came home he had to hit a life sentence for cocaine and marijuana and they gave him life sentence he did four years and he got his ass about it there you got to be careful when we go to the other country they don't play they don't play with that learn the coaches bro hey do not play three songs or Jeremiah that's a good one too but I'll probably go with Jeremiah Jeremiah okay Tupac or DMX wow another good one I'll probably go with pop his new backpack or no yeah huh you ever met Pop I met him one time met Fox just one time yeah what was how was that one time was that a meeting like it was like oh yo that's my man pop yo pop that kind his new the new series on FX the Dear Mama I saw it with the first episode it's crazy it's good yeah it's real good real good wow is on FX FX FX I know you worked with one of them I don't know if you work with both but Michael Jackson or Prince oh that's easy Michael Jackson and you worked with MJ yeah I didn't get a chance to work with Prince though but it was on the schedule to work with him before he passed what was on the schedule it was yeah I was going to get in with him before yeah yeah so yeah Max actually Jimmy Iovine was going to introduced me to him he have his ass out I'm just saying you know this different version really wants to know because he asked everybody [Music] even when I met him through Jimmy I would ask him a question and then the assistant or the one that was standing next to him would be the one to tell him oh so it was one of those and then he would whisper in her ear and then she would tell me what he said it was it was one that's awkward that is interesting it was interesting that's interesting oh I like this one you got it Eminem or Busta Rhymes in what way though it's up to you yeah no hold on it's a difference yeah because if it's the verses and verses oh and verses I mean he just I'm just in verses yeah verses that depends too though just just make sure you take a shot yeah it depends it depends it's no because these are two different Lanes like not even yeah but it's not even it's like you can't even compare those two I gotta go with both okay because you can't really compare those two no that's fair taking a shot you took a shot Sonny no you can't just drink out of your cup you gotta take a shot no because of what okay I like this one oh no no you go to make no sense and I'll do the next one after that uh mine this one yeah yeah Justin Timberlake OH you skipped one oh yeah snooper Jay-Z snoopa Jay-Z universes no anyway whatever the criteria your mind is in criteria in mind I will probably say that's that's also two different types you know what I'm saying like yeah two icons thanks Lee [Laughter] this this this might be debatable but I'll probably go with Snoop okay and and y'all worked early on in your career in your career too what's new right yeah and then I I like as I travel I see the personality and the effect that Snoop has on people globally and through his music so stupid hands down the most famous route you know what I'm saying there's not one person on Earth that I I don't think don't know who's as recognized right absolutely I kid you not Justin Timberlake or Justin Bieber I probably go with Bieber okay how about in verses still go with Bieber still going with people okay okay what's up people got records bro yeah people records are on a different level and he spoke weed too now in my mind I don't know this for a fact allegedly what else does he do he does everything Styles Peter Ross I gotta go both on that one okay sunny yeah because they both represent two different things too but style is like my brother I couldn't go against him if I wanted to okay I'm gonna let efn take this one these last two let me the next two French or 50. French of 50 that would be a good one I want to know but yeah 50 will get it oh and your mind you're saying verses okay ATL or Miami ATL in Miami definitely ATL you still living ATL huh still living ATM instead of a gas station same house you're the only thing I know who got a gas station [Applause] that's how you throw something good yeah I got a gas station I have a gas station shut everyone down everyone shut up like word he just said he got a gas [Music] Jersey that was a good one too both Legends but yeah they are but I think naughty went a little bit further I'm not going with naughty okay Jada Kiss or Nas oh that one is interesting that's a tough one too why I say that is because Jade is probably the most underrated I don't think he ever got the credit that he needed to get it now I believe you think you get it now I think he's getting it now because Nas it took time for people to give him that right not as well yeah it took some time yeah and I think Jada he never got it all right you think he got it at the verses yeah I think he's getting it I think he's still in the process of getting it that's what I think I think he's in the process yeah I would say Jaden just to help him get that process because I think Nas is already given okay it's fair enough Coming to America Harlem Nights that's the king of zamundo here man even though I love both of them I would definitely go with Coming to America Lady Gaga or Katy Perry definitely Lady Gaga Lady Gaga Gwen Stefani but all right yeah and then these are the guys who make it up the Colombians and the Dominicans right there Red Man or Method Man both yeah those are twins right there you can't separate them too yeah you can't separate them so Big Pun or Big L I'll go upon Amy Winehouse or Whitney Houston oh rest in peace to both yeah that's a tough one too but I I go with Whitney you got to see a movie on Netflix no I haven't seen it yet I haven't seen it yet neither I heard it's good though yeah I'm gonna take a look at it now T-Pain or Flo Rida T-Pain Wayne or Drake I would want to say Wayne because he discovered them and recognize the talent that Drake got right but in this case I would choose Drake because Drake to me is more versatile and he he I think he maximized the opportunity better than anybody in the business okay okay that's fair USA or Africa Africa being hesitate for that yeah not even question it's an old headline or your new headline definitely the new hairline [Applause] you online because in person this [ __ ] look good you look you look Dominican you look like them yeah you look good in person they [ __ ] you up online actually I started that campaign you started it I did that on purpose because you said you went to Turkey and [ __ ] said [ __ ] don't go to Turkey right so then so then I got the app where I can kind of play with it I said I was just interested because bro I ain't laughed I ain't laughed that much it's so long bruh this [ __ ] was so funny I didn't want to dance and I was literally I was literally on the plane just creating just I was like oh it's gonna look real [ __ ] what you think we're just push it out then boy yo the memes that came down when I tell you that was the was the funniest [ __ ] I've heard man I love that [ __ ] did you start on Twitter would you I started on Twitter yeah Twitter this negative place on the planet be negative you could go on Twitter and be like peace good morning everybody somebody gonna say shut the [ __ ] up what did I do homie you're gonna post a baby picture they like that baby ugly she's like what like you could do anything Twitter it's the horrible Place bro it also tell you some foul [ __ ] um okay where we at Davido burner boy oh that's good I'll probably go with Davido yeah we just had them on pick up the Dapper though oh David yeah that kid right there is a beast yeah he's the Beast he's another one I think that deserves more flowers than he's received we gave him his game his flowers I appreciate that uh NWA or Wu-Tang Clan I don't think it's a good matchup man I do I think it's too gen it's just generational man it's definitely a generational match but I want to say both and let me tell you why first of all NWA create a gangster rap regardless what anybody tell you schooly D did but NWA regardless of anybody hold on okay there's a difference scooty was just a gangster period yeah but he made against the music though he did happen and I see it was around around the same time NWA and maybe before to be honest with you yeah so you're right it could be debatable yeah but NWA made it I think sometimes we kind of make the mistake of the person that invented it versus the person that actually made it famous right you understand what I'm saying so there's two parts the person that invented it yeah we have to give him the flowers because he actually created the the this is what got us inspired to do it right but don't forget but the person that made it famous yes is really the person you give the credit to yeah right and that could be debatable as well it's like everybody but I also believe that the person that made it famous should also always go back and take care of the person that invented it that's what makes it even but when you ignore the person that made it even or you you know look at him on a certain way and you know kind of decrease his value then I think that's [ __ ] up all right there's there's one more debatable thing who called it gangster rap because a lot of people debate the media music start they show off with Eazy-E goddamn with a 22 pocket inside the arena already I was scared to death you never wanted to go to Compton right and then now let's talk about Wu-Tang Clan Wu-Tang Clan they took New York culture and made it global even more Staten Island bro to the point where you go to Japan is you Wu-Tang is like a religion it's a fact do you understand what I'm saying now NWA ain't go that far they were more domestic all right so that's why I said you got to give them both yeah you got to choose both on that one I love how you broke that down mad hip hop that was a mad hip-hop breakdown look at those recent shows wu-tang's been posting in Argentina and Colombia like twenty thousand thirty thousand people I'm crazy in Paris right now oh no New York famous damn that's debatable too that's debatable too Jackson Five or New Edition oh Jackson Five Mike's voice board ain't nobody can touch that that's what and it's before too it's like yeah your position would say Jackson Five they would even say if they don't then um DJ Khaled or DJ Drama that's a good one too big light skin beef right there or push your teeth that's a good one too that's a real good one that's a good one huh I think I'm um it's a hard lean but I think I'm gonna go with Fab on this one okay wow okay yeah juice or New Jersey Drive juice or New Jersey drive both good ones too yeah but juice is just different yeah you gotta go with juice on that one okay and this is something I want to see in versus Christina Aguilera versus Whitney Spears who you got oh I want to see you I got Brittany I think Britney I promise you I think Britney gonna take it because Brittany got the attitude for the audience versus actually you know why this is great and it's debatable I think Britney has like probably just a little bit more records but I think Christina vocalist yeah better vocalists again let's be very clear okay yes yes please the versus audience yes it's [ __ ] no chicks let's not fool ourselves no but we're gonna do this in Malibu so trust me Christina bro you can do this in the White House the people that will be streaming yeah [Laughter] they can do it right here in here the other people doing this between Christina Aguilera yeah and Britney Spears yes you got to ask yourself who gonna lean more to the black audience it's Brittany Brittany yeah but Christina don't act Latina she don't even claim it right I'm confused with this one I'm telling you holy [ __ ] Brittany are you Britney's Instagram my girl just put me on she's like she's just wild enough yeah I'm telling you I've been down bring your [ __ ] around and take off on Christmas it's a good one [ __ ] Master Flex or DJ Clue in what way whatever way that's you because there's an animation that comes with flex yeah nobody has out animated and the only way to be an ex ceptional DJ is to capture the attention of the audience and I don't think nobody does that better than Flex definitely so with in that note I got to go with flex bro yeah I ain't gonna lie to you like I used to have to catch myself because I would listen to flex and flexible like pull over and I pull over like what the [ __ ] am I pulled over for you like some records I ain't gonna lie to you some things I might have thought was trash before Flex actually presented it on the show that's a man after he presented it I was like yo that [ __ ] was kind of dope yes so it was all in the presentation yep yep I'll tell you that I'll tell you that's what I like about Flex if he's late on the record he'll come back on the stage and be like yo I'm sorry New York City I was late on this record like I like that I like that like um I remember uh I I said this on on before well when meek and and uh Drake was going at it reflex hyped it up so bad he was like I got the response from Drake and I got Meek Mill's response I called my wife not coming home babe not tonight I have to stay in New York City right here Flex talk this [ __ ] about Drake and Meek's record I couldn't have been nowhere else I didn't want to be on a plane I didn't want to listen to it on the headphones I wanted to sit in the car and just let Flex just played Drake's and Meek's Mill record and he didn't have neither one that day I swear to God but that's how that's some Showmanship yeah that's how impactful he is why I love Flex the next day I called him I'm like yo man um I want to give you a record because you know everyone's tuned in he's like yo Nori it was a rough night for me yesterday right because I'm trying to avoid that yo you know like he looking crazy he had need the record at this time so he's promoting all this [ __ ] and so I'm trying to avoid it and he's like but he wants he because you know I'm Gonna Keep It Real so he's like yo it was a rough night for me last night right I said Flex I can't lie he was baking like a biscuit he goes he goes It's hard no no we had to stay home the next day he said it was one person that came to my house and he said he opened the door and it was the FedEx man the FedEx man looked at him like the same way he took his like he took his W right and flex took me something that day it was like all right cool because you lose for momentarily right come your ass out the next day and get back to the win but he took it he took that that was remarkable to me you could do the last two sorry Nipsey or Eazy-E oh that's a good one too there's a piece of both yeah but Nipsey just I don't know I will go with nipsy right right on this one yeah and the last one loyalty or respect loyalty all day you can't respect somebody that you're not loyal to um [Music] [Applause] about Jimmy Ivey everyone knows that Jimmy Iovine is like one of the illest uh artists producer artist like he's an artist based artist I call Jimmy Iovine the king maker um damn that's a The King The King make makeup that's what he does if he comes into your life he's gonna change it now he came into your life after loud right no he came into my life during my Peak at the point when I thought I couldn't get bigger wow and he made me bigger that shows you and what what I love about Jimmy is that he allows you to be yourself like he doesn't dictate what you need to be doing all right or tell you what he thinks you should do all right he'll hear you out and then give you the tools to make it work let me because I want to get back to that but in the beginning wasn't you all loud no I was on SRC oh yeah you want to make sure that you understand people text me yeah yeah Corporation that's all him right right yeah right right [Music] myself yeah was by himself but live was his partners with Richardson right oh he's part of SRC as well okay I didn't know that okay all right so at what point did you did you and Steve Ripley in uh part ways we never part ways oh so yeah I'm still you still this day we contacted each other oh wow yeah we never literally con like we never parted ways wow all my records was always ran through Steve Rifkin until my contract was ran out and that's when you went to uh Interscope now and when I went to Interscope I wasn't signing there my label deal was that Interscope I was still at SRC with SRC and then I had my con live over at uh uh uh Interscope so convict music was at Sony um yeah it was Jive first before Sony acquired them holy [ __ ] yeah but Jimmy Jimmy was uh and you said when does Jimmy come into the picture yeah Jimmy came into the picture when I was shopping my label deal right because I went to Universal first because I was already there and I presented them I said listen I want to start a label that's what I'm gonna do and I brought in T-Pain Ike was there they left me out the building remember that [ __ ] like man they was Joe and you know how they join Over SRC especially oh man God Gabby Gaga oh my goodness [Music] and it's Big Gabby too at the time yeah yeah big guy he's mad but he got slim and stop being funny yo the records and he was saying all clear yo the records are amazing but bro his face he would say stuff like that you know what I'm saying like so if leaders say they passed so I went to the top and tried to go to the big building and then they passed so that's when I went to Jive and Josh took T-Pain but then with the successor T-Pain that's when I came back to do another thing lady at job it was uh ah it'll come to me in a minute it's damn I'm not faithful no man um no no Barry White okay okay it was Barry White so I'm trying to think about it was very light okay another brilliant brilliant brilliant [ __ ] right so it's Barry Weiss at the time so then with the success of T-Pain that's when I doubled back to try to do a direct label deal with universal again and then that's what Melanie winter told me that what I'm asking for nobody would give it to me you know this is like a 80 20. it was no I was on the [ __ ] it was well it was a label distribution deal but then it was the amount of money that I wanted upfront okay and he was like you know God unfortunately we're not going to get that kind of money and if you go anywhere they won't I don't think they'll do it anyway but if you can find somebody to do it then feel free to just take the deal I said okay no problem and that's what I call Tubby and tubby brought me and divine over to um Interscope okay and that's when I met with Jimmy okay and Jimmy I already had my full portfolio already out he already knew what it was he said listen this is what you're worth this is what we want to give you wow we want to do the deal here and it was what you expected it was double what I wanted damn it was done what you just asked for double what I just asked for Wow [ __ ] that's dope and that's when it all worked out wow and then where does Lady Gaga coming so Lady Gaga was already at Interscope when I got there oh he was already a writer she was no she was an artist yeah she was actually an artist there but at the time I don't know what interscore was going to do with it because she was there for a minute right she was under uh Troy and Vince under management there so we was writing for the Pussycat Dolls at the time and then that's when I got I was just excited about this deal I was happy I caught a complete block I needed some inspiration so I was like red one which was an artist I mean a producer that had just signed from Morocco me him was working I was like you know anybody I can just come back and forth with it he's like well I was in the studio with you know let's check that fa brought in you know like she's pretty dope I mean if anything you need some inspiration trust me when you see her and she walks in with these all gold leotards and stuff and looking like she's from the 80s and I was like damn but she looked like a real artist was that a good Dem or a bad damn you know good it was like a or a different dance I didn't know what that damn meant yet she was already different like she was already different but then after you know after speaking with him talking to her like this [ __ ] is mad talented so we write the record she goes in to demo the song out okay so as she's going in the demo to song for the girls to hear it I'm looking like man yo this [ __ ] is a star but I said yo man did she signed uh he's like I don't know get out so she comes out I was like what's the situation she's like well you know I'm at an Interscope I said really that's this whole situation say well you know I'm not quite sure I said okay give me a second so I'll call Jimmy I see your Jimmy what's up with this Lady Gaga chick and he's like why I said I think I want to sign her he said take her I said I could have her he said yeah she's all yours that's crazy like he threw me that bone like literally like take her [ __ ] it's like almost as if you didn't know what to do with her I wouldn't say that okay yeah yeah Jimmy out he didn't hold it there until he know what he'd do with it but I guess just like he had Eminem right he gave me some Dr Dre but go ahead yeah exactly Jimmy was great for preparing producers with writers or producers and artists you understand me he's moving the chest piece he knew right so when he saw that I had interest in it he was like that can work so he's like yeah take it so then mind you we got a smash hit record uh I said yo Jimmy we got the record I'm going back in he's thinking we playing the record for the Pussycat Dolls uh-huh but at that point when he told me I could have guys I'm like we're working on her album right we going there we playing this record Just Dance okay oh he's going crazy and there's oh my God this is it we got [ __ ] one we got it we got it so now the whole time he's thinking this record is the perfect record for the Pacific so the Music Stops so Jim what we doing he said man thank you man the president got dogs are gonna love this record I said he's dating one of them at the time isn't he no comments no comments I don't know I don't have the information [Music] all I can tell Jimmy was a very handsome guy and all the girls wanted him that's all I can tell you so the worst so so then he's like you know so uh what are we doing I said what can we you know put this record out he's like yeah but at the time he wanted to put on Pussycat Dolls and me and Martin was like he's looking at me like condom don't say nothing because you know me I'm so outspoken I say oh Jimmy it's a record is for Gaga he's like no she was like I said Jimmy this record is for Gaga he said what I said yes it's for Gaga he said okay make me understand this all right I said Jimmy listen The Pussycat Dolls are already a global smash art like they're a piece of art all right all they need is one record I make a million of them as you can see I just did this last night I'll make another one for them he said it's not good enough I said okay listen to this record again one more time we played the record I said this record will make you another Pussycat Doll or possibly even bigger this is a record that break a new artist not keep a new artist popping and he thought about it he said would you put your label on that I said yeah I said This Record don't work you could drop me and you let me go with it and that probably been the best decision collectively we made together together [Applause] wait would you were you not worried that the machine would have not got behind the record listen stuff like that sabotage you know why because one thing I do know and I believe this in my soul a hit record is always going to find his audience okay always even if it ain't got pushed this might take a lot it may take time and prime example Bonanza belly dancer belly dancing right A lot of people don't know that was my first single before locked up right right or wrong I didn't know that that was my first single the first thing I ever heard University dropped that first oh when that didn't work that's one lot because while they was moving and working belly dancer me gabby cleave and Ike we was on the road pushing locked up wow so locked up gained some momentum on the streets became on everybody's mixtape then we moved at that little Penitentiary tour starting over in Rikers Island did that little you know what's name people I mean yeah Styles P came home when Styles P came on me actually changed everything because this verse made it actually an urban record because all right so was it locked up out without Styles yeah it was it was it was that's crazy the first time I heard locked up I believe it was what style Spears complete record before Styles P got on we was working that record about seven maybe eight months when Styles got on that record took off wow took off yeah oh and then we did another remix with Beanie Siegel on there I never heard that that came out yeah it came it was on the B side oh [ __ ] but what happened was the Styles P version just trumped it all right but beanie sigel's versus stupid wow it was stupid yeah man yeah so do you think you think you get credit for enough credit for Lady Gaga's career oh yeah for your pardon it I got plenty of credit I got enough credits that I can maximize to build my city that's all the credit I need maximize to build your city bro yes build your City build our city okay yeah right here hell yeah I'm coming back what's the name of the acorn City yeah as of right now because I remember um all right so what is the city consist of oh it's I mean just think of just think of what Dubai is today yeah yeah and what it used to be 15 years ago oh I remember that's what we want what's what we want to become no no no no small okay yeah right it's gonna start small 2 000 Acres okay right off the water it's all on the beach front Okay so you're gonna have Resorts you're gonna have entertainment complexes you know hotels boating docks you know amphitheaters for concerts film studios music studios restaurants like it's gonna be yeah it's gonna be a monster how far you think this is away well the first stage is three and a half years we are we just literally started building last last week actually when we talked about the first time we had just started doing you know Environmental Studies soil studies all that stuff you know doing all the paper all the studies and then Kobe hit for a minute slow this up but then we got back into it but now everything is official construction actually literally started last week right wow [Applause] that's beautiful man and and um is that's where we talk about the Chinese helping out with the electricity no that's no that has nothing to do with it has nothing to do with nothing at all the Chinese side was Akon lighting and that's when we was providing solar lights to you know it started with villages then we got um then we expanded got into uh government contracts to do utility work scale work so we would kind of just take a specific side of the city and Electrify that whole area and then connect to the city above or whatever the case till we got the whole country but then I mean when we got the support from the Chinese with that billion dollar credit line we was able to expand into 16 different countries in Africa because there was there was there's still places in Africa without electricity yeah really oh yeah like Villages yeah really Africa is huge right it's gonna take another 40 50 years to light the whole continent up it's gonna take time yeah wow well like because we see like places like indigenous there's still some very indigenous areas in Africa and I heard it's even places I know Africa is huge right I heard this is one place in Africa where there's like no outside people is is allowed like it's like I mean [ __ ] that's place like that in California even the cops can't come in here me personally I've never experienced no areas like that but I'm sure there's areas out there that they've never seen white people yeah or they've never seen foreigners come in dressed a certain kind of way right yeah because if you go deep in Africa where there's no airports like in the countryside rural areas there's areas where there's not even no cars maybe right you know what I'm saying that's how big this place is it's riding horses you think or yeah I mean beautiful horses too yeah yeah beautiful horses wow holy [ __ ] dude you don't [ __ ] with lions and [ __ ] like that that's a different kind of question not because you know you know we've seen rich people have lions in the house don't forget you must have forgot I had two tigers in my house in Atlanta like those are my real pets like that was a pest those are my divided shoes cats all day black panthers Tigers oh I'm 100 1 000 okay bro put your dog up against my lion and see what happens just imagine if you ever walked your dog around the neighborhood I mean you're lying you ever walked in there because remember Mike Tyson said he sleep with his what he said yeah he slept with his uh yeah Alliance yeah yeah yeah he was like how does that work he said it doesn't work it don't but the key is you got to raise them from from Cubs though right right yeah you got to declaw them yeah you might want to you declaw them and defang them I think yeah or the whatever I mean the defanging ain't gonna really do much because they still got a hard bite like bro that defanging means nothing you really don't yeah because the pouch is if they come at you it's done because these teeth are still existing it's just the things that you take it out and you can't take those teeth no cause they got to eat yeah that's what I ask all right yeah listen you mistreated it's gonna come for you oh yeah yeah I don't want no pet like that I mean that's in each pet though that's not the truth I see the street is gonna come for you I've seen a story the other day that I think uh what's his name um Joe Rogan he said this is how ill a pitbull is that he came home his Pitbull was cut all up wow like cut all up all over his his face his Pitbull was cut up so he and his back and everything so he took the dog and he brung the dog to the hospital hospital system up but then when he broke her back he wanted to understand no one knows the story he he wanted that he wanted to to see what exactly happened so he followed the the the the the trail of his dog and and he saw 10 coyotes wow 10 dead coyotes nine dead coyotes the coyotes was coming in trying to kill him and the dog held it down against nine he killed nine coyotes bro wow that's that's kind of hard that's hard like that's that's a lawyer that's it baby what if it boom now up like this like let's make sure me and you on a good level man all right so um we're gonna go into some of these hits man we're gonna go into some of these hits man uh where did we start uh let's start with the two like I said earlier uh if you're in a club and you don't hear these two records that means you're in the worst Club there ever is if Dave won't play I Wanna argue featuring Snoop Dogg and if they don't play smack that I suggest you leave immediately immediately but what was it let's let's start with one I want to [ __ ] you obviously what what made you make that because girls say that too it's not like only guys in the club is going I wanna it's oh you're like oh okay yeah okay [Laughter] you know what I'm trying to say I mean it literally but but that's crazy it's a unisexuality for sure did you did you think that was going to be a unicide and then what was your mind for listening yeah at the time I was in Magic City when I break that record pepper wings no actually you know what's interesting Dane lemon pepper wasn't popular there that's a travesty yeah it wouldn't it wasn't popular in 2008 was y'all chopping on uh Wings in 2008 in Miami they was in Miami yeah either that or I wasn't up on it let's get make sure we go back to I want to [ __ ] you and and Magic City in your humble opinion right the first time you you had lemon pepper where was it at because this is there's a big Miami Miami Atlanta debate no but what's interesting is the first time I ever had it was here in Miami yeah okay because I told you about that time I didn't know what that's why I was like lemon pepper wings didn't exist right okay at least for me okay but I know when I came here that's when I got put up on it okay then when I got home where you had your first lemon pepper to me that's what I heard lemon pepper is invented that's what I heard I don't know about that I can't tell that to Atlanta [ __ ] what yeah because I had it first in tootsies but then I had it very close in Onyx as well and I take one there you go hey man maybe very soon very soon okay so you're in Magic City and you just said man I'm gonna [ __ ] this [ __ ] yeah pretty much pretty much yeah so what the Rhythm comes to you just looking at it she's dancing no it was a thought oh okay like whatever song was playing I was in the mood of that song but it was really about her and what she was doing on that okay then when I got to I mean it just I mean literally left the studio I mean left Magic City went straight to the studio yeah he was writing in your mind huh was you already writing in your mind I kind of knew what I wanted to say but I didn't know how I was gonna say it right until after I made the beat then I it just hit me I knew exactly where I was gonna go with him you know what I'm saying you made the beat well she didn't know I was a producer no no I didn't know you produced that John no but everything that you heard me on the chorus 95 of the stuff you heard me on the course is Beast that I made [Music] yeah that's how I used to deliver my songs with the chorus already on it that's how you make place yep That's Heavy yeah your publishing game is crazy and smart it was easy to sell yeah the song was already done I got to drop the verse I just write the verses for you too so don't tell me it was literally that simple like don't tell me that's how Soul Survivor happened I already of course I want to be ready to go it was actually going no I'm not gonna tell that story but yeah that's how I don't tell me it's gonna be for somebody no no no no no it was gonna be it would have been for anybody it would have been for me what's crazy was you ever had a song and you probably experienced this where before you he's a feature to share somebody on it he was like man I think I'm gonna keep this for myself like as a producer songwriter right it's some songs you just want to hold on to all right that's the feeling I had after I did Soul Survivor but then when I met with Jeezy and I heard his mixtape all right bro yeah you need this my I just I just jumped out the window I was like it's no way this [ __ ] on this record is not gonna be a bigger record right it was impossible it was just impossible so when I sent it to him I wasn't sure if he liked it or how he felt about it because it took about almost to the end of the day before I got it back but the fact that I got it back the same day was kind of common because a lot of people at that time was always excited to get a contra convict track so they would do it real quick and send it back but Jesus took a little bit longer than normal and I was like damn this [ __ ] ain't back yet but when it came back though yeah I was like oh my God I sent that [ __ ] over to meech he was like [ __ ] all right so this [ __ ] we own like because you gotta stand around that time BMF had the biggest brand but no real no songs out there they just them [ __ ] would be on they'd be at The Source magazine getting Awards and all that with no audience hahaha and [ __ ] you're the best it ever did I think he's getting Awards and everything with no acts out there no records huh no but they was the culture man it was it was it was it was something but Jeezy I just knew he was destined for it you know so um let me ask you have you ever gave up a record and you was mad and [ __ ] for giving up a record no no no I was never mad at giving up a record um but they're all records that I gave up that I that I thought would be huge and it didn't work out like you thought not right like I thought and you know those records it's kind of hard to kind of take them back to give him somebody else so you just got to eat that you know yeah um you ever heard that tracker yeah I remember that I gave that up that [ __ ] was Nori Nori that [ __ ] sorry I heard they gave me the Jay-Z hours I was like what I said no we gave it to you and I was like but you could have told me [Music] yeah it just wasn't meant for him he probably would have got too famous and at that time it probably wasn't a good thing she was wild as hell yes it was wild we finished I wanna [ __ ] you then how did you ask the dog every time you say it sounds crazy I'm trying to we're trying to avoid it but what made you want to add Snoop Dogg oh man that was just it was I think that was all perfect timing because at that time Snoop was always he was he was hitting me up for songs and I always wanted to work with them but I just didn't have the right record that I felt I could put him on and then the record got leaked and when it got leaked in uh Miami Plies was on the record so Plies had the record first because what's interesting enough was when I originally did the record I did it for Trick Daddy oh [ __ ] right originally I was like because I didn't see myself doing that kind of record as even I was inspired by the whole things all my songs was inspired by some but I always I would always hand pick which I asked what I think would be able to take the record off so at that time I'm thinking it was going to be Trick Daddy wow when I sent the record to slip and slide till this day till this day I'm guessing I never knew how applies actually got the record all I know is that one week Steve got a call that's [ __ ] we gotta [ __ ] Smash in Miami that's all over satellite radio and every [ __ ] strip club every Club the record is so big we gotta do something about it and I was like well let me hear the record [ __ ] when I heard that [ __ ] I was like God damn who is this little [ __ ] right right so it was one of them things and then oh he wasn't out yet no I don't he was a new artist oh okay okay I'm thinking he's already out he was doing it but everybody agreed that this was a smash hit record but Universal was going crazy because first of all the record's out I'm not cleared the [ __ ] is like it's already a potential hit what do we do we gotta we got we got to recover this record so we're like okay well we need to just snatch him off of him and put somebody on the record and then that's when I was like well [ __ ] let's put Snoop on the record he's been calling me for records and he's he'd be the perfect [ __ ] on here right so I sent it to Snoop literally the same day he came back with the record bodied it right and these [ __ ] had the record mastered mixed and put out the same week oh [ __ ] like literally that thing because we had to catch it the record was moving too fast that Plies version was gone but then I felt bad I was like damn you know he's a new artist all right this would have been his big break all right like I felt [ __ ] up because I knew how hard it was to get a record and go because I know what I went through with locked up but do you think he he did without a doubt [ __ ] I'm not supposed to do that honestly believe it or not had he reached out before he did it no because guess what had he not leaked it we would have known the record was that big so wow we probably would have worked it out it was a blessing it could have been right it could have been a record for him anyway if had we known before that [ __ ] took off but it just I mean God has his own way of how things happen right so at that point I felt bad man so we got on the phone and I was like look man you know it's business some of it is beyond what I can do but don't worry I'm gonna make it up to you you know what I'm saying it's applies I'm saying it supplies because I just felt bad because I like that was a smash right so I was like all right let me figure this out so that's when I went into the studio and then I made hypnotize and I gave him hypnotized yeah so you know I'll take a shot for that that's all oh yeah you was there like all right relax [Laughter] yo that's crazy I got all that in my nose okay now don't matter was that a sample uh-oh that was not a sample no it was all played all original really yeah but that was a Melody part um that I did take from uh uh Bob Marley okay and we gotta fight for our rights okay I took a piece of that okay and add it to the to the chorus okay that's the only part that sampled not the beat that was the rendition part okay Soul Survivor you just answered that question so how about lonely let's let's get into that yeah lonely I wrote that when I was locked up yeah that record was I wrote that when I was locked up and then I recorded it when I got out oh really oh wrong thing whole record and yeah the song was written but then the beat at the time wouldn't create it until I got out and that's when I was going through my crates and and heard the Bobby Vinton sample and I spared that up and redid the Beat Around The Voice a hell of a producer yeah [ __ ] just hitting us with genius [ __ ] [ __ ] I'm not even ready for some of this [ __ ] hold on man uh you know what let's skip around a little bit we spoke about Jimmy Iovine so let's talk about uh um working with Dr Dre oh man working with Dre was like well let me give you a two-part question yeah because is that is that Nate Dogg on that record on which one on the record with uh you guys and with Dre yeah hold up yeah is that you know I never asked Dre who that was oh really I never asked Drew what I was I you never looked at the credits I never look at the credit yeah you got rich you're working on a second it's just you know like like when you work with certain people like that you kind of already know what the splits is gonna be before you get in regardless of who you add to it all right Drake don't ever know what he gonna get I already know what I'm gonna get Luke already know what he gonna get and whoever else is involved y'all split that among y'all type of thing you know what I'm saying so but overall was y'all in this um Studio together making that record um we was in studio together making records but that one specifically wasn't I was I was traveling okay that's when I I did my I did everything for it and then I sent it to them and then when Dre sent it back to me he had to Snoop on there his verse on her and the hold up voices so I wasn't sure if that was actual Nate or someone else that sounded like him or maybe something sampled from an older song at it okay you know what I'm saying okay but that you know Dre you don't really you just let him do what he did yeah [ __ ] like you know what I'm saying like [ __ ] she came back and [ __ ] smashed that's all I know yeah yeah yeah right oh yeah it's super beautiful uh beautiful was amazing how did you make that that one I think that was around the time when um before it was a beautiful my bag did you you say where you was at when you recorded uh the Drake um vocals did you say where were you traveling Oh the Dre I was on I was on tour I had a um so I went in the studio though but I had I had a um I had a studio in my bus so that's how I was able to get the records out at the same time and that's how actually I was able to get sorry blame me response so quick because um when that whole controversy hit I was actually on the road with Gwen Stefani when the um when you made the record sorry sorry blame me I made that on the bus why did you make that because it was no it was you know because at the time it was it was a huge controversy about uh the club appearance that I made in um in Trinidad and underage girl and was part of this dance whining contest yeah and unfortunately she snuck out the house her dad was a preacher and he woke up and saw that she won on the first on the front page like it was a big thing right you know what I mean really religious out there yeah he flipped out like you know so at that point her age was revealed because the daddy was like she's underage how do you guys allow her to go into the club and everybody was shocked because they was like wait a minute it's a 21 and older club like how is she 15 in there you know what I'm saying but the pop was just so hype about it and of course me being a celebrity being attached it just made a huge thing right and then Verizon pulled my sponsorships and all of this stuff yo are we Gwen Stefani though all right rode with me because that Verizon sponsorship sponsored the whole tour and I was on it so they came to home was like listen Khan if you want us to continue sponsoring this tour you need to pull him off your tour and she's like I'm not doing that gonna stop fighting against the [ __ ] she rocked with me though yep yeah let's talk about that the uh the sweetest game as well while we on it right yeah yeah Sweet Escape yeah so Sweet Escape was crazy so Jimmy Iovine called me and was like listen I want you to go in with Gwen I was like absolutely I love going this is before the tour obviously this is before the tour right this is before a tour she was she had just finished her album but they needed that one record like they would need one record you know and I was like well let me hear the album and see what she got and then I'll see you know what I can put for when I heard the album it was a little different from what I would have wanted for her on the album being who she was in the timeline in which she was recording those records I felt there was a certain direction that I felt like she needed to go so I just did that direction for the single that they wanted for and while we was in the studio that's when we wrote Sweet Escape right so when we sent that over to Jimmy he was like man this record is [ __ ] amazing but that wasn't enough time to do more records because she was literally like dropping that wheat so we said let's maximize this actual song because this could be the first record out so they end up taking the song it became in the first single then it became the song became the name of the album Sweet Escape then they set up a whole tour around that song called Sweet Escape Tour so that song became her whole marketing Imaging right the whole like movement for that whole album wow yeah you orchestrated that for us I made the record Jimmy orchestrated but everything 's saying goes in line with you saying that Jimmy is a king maker because here you are blessing all these artists and helping and making their careers as well right which is crazy you know because I think sometimes it helps to have just new blood around that see things differently from how you know your course see it because oftentimes like prime example let's say a building like Universal for instance they got a set group of producers that they go to every time they sign ax you know what I'm talking about right of course set group of writers that they go to every time they sign the act right they all start to sound alike they all start feeling like there's nothing different because it's using the same producers that's been proven to have hit records it comes like a cookie cutter thing right exactly and I think that's what Jimmy was trying to cut away from so that's why he started bringing in people that looked at the projects differently because even when you saw the when you heard the first album versus the album that I was working on that there wasn't that much of a a growth change but when you hear that record on that album you can hear the difference from that record versus everything else that was on there you know what I'm saying and that means he's willing to take chances too yeah I mean I want to give you what you ain't got I want to give you something that the audience can listen to and say oh [ __ ] they stepping it up or they grown from where they used to be you know what I mean but at the same time keeping Integrity of food what it is you bring to the table but you also taking it to a level to where you look like you're becoming bigger than what you was before they you know experienced you you know what I'm saying that's correct God damn it man this is this is this is crazy what are some of the producers that you haven't worked with that you would like to work with interestingly enough I haven't worked with man the only producers that I actually ever work with on collaboration because remember he's producing a yeah it's polo polo done I worked with him on some collaboration stuff um who nah me and Kanye hasn't we never worked on anything collaborative um that could be crazy yo now that I think about it he's the only no um Metro Boomin Metro booming yeah Metro Boomin worked on some stuff together and uh London on the track man worked on but that's all after my time but during my time I actually wasn't working with any producers myself absolutely hell yeah some of the people you were assembling I would love to see you on Timberland again I think me and Tim together would come up with some Angela we taking over right um what college yep um isn't that danger I did some stuff with Runners as well too and danger was on um I mean when we did the first interview with him it was at College Studio I think they were working outside yeah that's right it was that kind of Studio yeah it was yeah yeah that was my home that was my home bro like even to this day when I recorded Miami I go right back there all right never there you hit playing golf no the [ __ ] God shut up come on Golf Digest [Applause] it is working keep going yeah that's that's like my studio now yeah like I'd be like yo cat I'm in Miami he said well you know what to do like I ain't there like he didn't gave me somebody to talk to to open up close up everything like it felt like that that day yeah that's exactly what it was yeah that's like my home in Miami yep you play golf actually I just started playing golf a year ago okay I started my first golf tournament with Steve Harvey in Dubai oh sure okay um and then I and it was crazy what's crazy was right I caught some lessons before I started Topgolf no actual golf I was playing top guard before I got there though so I got the base my drive was already crazy because of Topgolf that's my friends telling me yeah right it's going badge myself don't get on the field first go to mini go to mini golf yeah for the puck yeah okay but what saved me was we was playing by teams so I do the drives boom 195 200 225 on my first drives bro like killing it but then when it's time to putt you know somebody new team that was good at Putt and get so the first um uh uh golf tournament we actually came number one we were in first place but then the second year when we came then they started bringing professionals out so then we was last place oh [ __ ] once you start yeah it's addictive it seems like it's addictive it's addictive is it expensive no not at all yeah like not at all yeah I don't know if you go on an average day you go to play golf you're gonna be spending probably a little bit under 500 oh really yep and but and they smoke cigars and [ __ ] I see I see a lot of [ __ ] getting drunk out there a lot of big deals people make deals on the golf course I mean that's that's what used to happen they just tell secrets oh [ __ ] is that how you take advantage let them get drunk and then you act like you got a pina colada take a sip first let's go yo so what is this something we didn't ask you in a quick time of slime very famous uh on this show major or independent what do you prefer all right so when I was Major I was screaming independent right when you got independent oh you're gonna love this now it's interesting it's interesting I like when I was Major I was screaming independent all day I was convincing everybody to go independent independent independent but that's because that was before I realized who I was because I never felt famous like I always felt like you know you see me now like by myself I always feel normal but then when I got off the major and went independent I said independent ain't really for me because I'm too big to be independent right right I need to be structured and managed by a major label because of who I I'm who I am already right now if you're artists that um are beginning or you got a nice little bubble within your your area or territory Independence for you because you can grow independent and build your structure to become what you know like manages your career you can self-master yourself right self-master you know what I'm saying and grow to that level but it's in steps it's all the stages but the artist that just comes from a major label and just goes deep dive and independent it's a bad idea that's what happened to you and that's why you always say yeah because because I'm always advocating for Independence he's always advocating for me but that's the thing when you're in a situation and in the area since because you looking at the numbers that you're making these [ __ ] and you're like man if I could make that for me but we don't also realize all the resources that is taken the machine is the machine that's the supporting us right right you know what I'm saying you you got to realize like you have to really grind yeah and by the way depending on your label you got a grind when you're on a major oh yeah with no disrespect especially today Mages it's not the major labels are sometimes incompetent and sometimes their workers are just people that's lucky to be there and it's also a lot of hookups there's a lot it's a lot of it's a lot of people you know like like this guy doesn't deserve that job that he has his I think it isn't in there I'm gonna hook them up so he's [ __ ] up so you gotta you gotta grind hard enough on a major but if you if a major spins three to to 10 million dollars on you they can't take that back right right so you need to get that back and you need to be as much independent within that major as possible right you know what I mean for you to work make it work that's what you owe it you owe it let's let's be clear you owe it and contractually you gotta get that money back and then you got to go through well actually it's not even about contracts and monies and recoups at that stage it's about visibility right right because guess what when you're out there and you're visible the money gonna come oh yeah you can work especially you're bringing out great products right right but if you don't have the push right and you're not visible I don't care how Dopey [ __ ] is nobody if nobody hears it nobody can react to it right so this the money that they're putting in you that gives you the exposure that you need to make money so yeah they recouping but you also have an Avenue to make more money like music should also because your brand is larger right your brand is larger opportunities come that's revenue and opportunities from a substantial of making money that comes to you that the rep the label don't share in so that's that's really the balance but this is the thing this is what I'm always tell them the percentage of the people that are successful in that system are smaller so what I always Advocate is be independent to go to a major and take advantage of a deal that you could do with major because you're already independent right versus you go in I'm fresh you're going to be taking advantage you're fresh you're going to be on the shelf right listen by being successful yeah it's small absolutely a greatest example um uh the other day because you know like I said I'm going to Paris for my wife's birthday and I remember me going to Europe and me being able to do a capone-noreaga show a Nori hosting and then a Nori Latin show like all in one day because I was I was three different artists to these guys and they didn't see me yeah but I wouldn't have been able to pull that off as an independent artist but you were in the Heyday of the labels of the Heyday of the industry and you were me you were uh reggaeton I know but you but that was the record they came through the reggae don't Heyday but it wasn't hip-hop's Hay Day no but you still had what you were doing already from the past yes you had past hit singles on a Major League no I'm just saying that it's what I'm trying to say is you are that percentage that top percentage that did get through and could take advantage of that major deal no I think I took risk to be a part of that percentage because you got to remember like even like when I did reggaeton everyone laughed at me including him right you know everyone was totally like everyone laughed because as a Latino hip-hop head out to the closest friends and Hip-Hop it's him and Fat Joe and they both was like don't do that [ __ ] she's like I'm like yo what but then at least years later they was like we were wrong but you know we got to realize I had to go against the machine that was actually going against the machine when I brung the record to Def Jam I kid you not this is a real story I burned a record to Def Jam I was like yo um I want uh to put this out and then they looked they they laughed at me too they was like you wanna what I was like I want a boy they looking at me like you're a hip-hop artist they didn't know what reggaeton was I was like yo this is music in Puerto Rico I love that [ __ ] they weren't getting it I love this [ __ ] and they were like they were looking at me like this this is your you remember how Gangstar Gangstar did uh the Jazz album right and I remember yeah go to the Jazz album I could imagine you know right you know it's it's these Beyonce later on did the Spanish album yeah so many yeah and they like because you know I got the worry boy I made the war report and they looking at me like this is the this is that totally opposite but I'm like I'm like well I'm Puerto Rican right like why should I be hell to it so I did it like I said I went against the masses and it went from this is this is a real story Kevin Lyles is my boy Kevin Love said I said I'm gonna take this record and I'm gonna give it to uh I believe it's just the Spanish DJs so I didn't even give it to no black DJs no white DJs I gave him the DJ enough DJ Camillo uh fairly fast uh what's my other man Julio G uh uh if he was just Latin I just gave it to you I gave it to him he ain't played that [ __ ] I have videos right he said in my face in my face something so the record the record I make it just for a Puerto Rico Day Parade right so this is three weeks before the reporting Day parade is getting 500 spins the [ __ ] is going to support me they kicking me out of hip-hop right now they can get me out of hip-hop for [ __ ] with y'all but [ __ ] with y'all and the record became number one I had 140 million audience I remember I remember LA Reid coming to me was like you you you you beat Mariah Carey this month and I didn't know what that meant but I know what it meant yeah I said that was true I said holy moly I don't care it was damaged biggest female artist on the planet at that time and I'm gonna tell you something it's the first time I knew that New York had seven radio stations I had only knew about Hot 97 and had only knew about Power 105 I had nothing to know about KTU I never knew about La Mega I never knew about um oh I never knew about I'm doing radio now different right difference yeah like I'm on pop the record was so big I remember me but the record was so big one time I remember me being in the club and a dude just bumping into me and gone and just look at he's spilling me singing me I just said you a legend leave it alone I say that to say I said to say now look at the trifecta of that they go got the wrong was originally on that record their own and Daddy Yankee took two different approaches right when [ __ ] was on the record the record was spiked in just Latino Community Daddy Yankee made a deal with Interscope right Interscope said it's in their best interest to help Def Jam blow him up on on right and then and then and then we helped them on Gasolina remix and look how look how look at that because they're two major well I'm not trying to get you these crossovers or major side but I'm just saying I'll just give me a sandwich no I'm sorry because I keep looking at you I don't want you to think like but what I'm saying is look look at that had had those because if you look at the two it's five of the major records that hit reggaeton right I believe it's reggaeton Latino yeah I believe it's Gasolina yeah and oh yeah but you know you're actually making my point no no what I'm saying is if you do something independently and prove it right then it gives you more what I'm saying for this for this being like so new for it to be commercialized for it to get on MTV you couldn't have been independent for it to you know exactly but you you started the buzz independently nobody believed in it right oh absolutely absolutely that was my point yeah yeah that's like yeah that's what I'm trying to say it's like but yeah y'all do know y'all both for right yes yes we're having this conversation at the time and when you was active right independent was unheard of all right yes trust me it wouldn't work it was trash but today Independents are actually more effective than the majors right because of the new technologies and all the other you know yeah and because of streaming but all the resources that's been created for the user well the thing is independent Works depending on what you want out of being independent right if someone's trying to be big and they want to make certain kind of bread maybe it wouldn't work but maybe someone wants more creative you know luxuries to be able to do whatever the [ __ ] they want I mean you could do that with a major as well the only difference is the audience knows the difference between a major push and an independent push and it's just unfortunate that today's audience nowadays they rather support the underdog right well they don't even know anymore because the majors when SoundCloud became what it was right because that was the home of the underdogs SoundCloud became where all the major started picking from like all of them right you know what I'm saying yeah now it's tick tock I can't stand Tick Tock now it's tick tock yeah yeah me either my God I can't even I can't stand I'm what you wanna know I can't stand it yo but um ringtones right was that something that that because that's crazy that that's like non-existent really non-existent how big it was but that was the first time you I don't know if you've seen Snoop recently snook was like man he was talking to Larry Jackson he's like Larry Jackson you took all this crazy [ __ ] but I'm paraphrasing obviously man and he's like but us as artists we don't even know how much we get a stream we don't really tell I saw that [ __ ] was done no but um so ringtones was the first time I can plan right because I was just like what the [ __ ] is this [ __ ] like why is my [ __ ] platinum and I don't I'm not receiving nothing for it what I understood was it was going under electronical rights you signed over your digital rights digital rights I didn't I didn't know about that but it wasn't there the word digital wasn't there at the time when you signed your original contract yeah it was that language wasn't there right but at the second time when they renegotiated you ain't care what that was you just wanted that money yeah it clearly said digital rights nah I gotta disagree I don't think it was there I don't think I promise you what year was that this was well well any year old any year after 2006 I don't know wait because they changed the language in 2004. okay okay uh but most feelings start catching to 2006. that's probably when I caught it yeah you got yours on your own renegotiation that's where a lot of people got hit okay that's where a lot of people got hit see what what made me a little bit different was I was a businessman first right and then when we and it started because SRC was a little bit slow on certain situations too because they had a boutique label they were just distributed by a major right so it gave me more time to understand what was going on understand the business a little bit more because Steve reference was wide open he was very transparents right right oh God so I'm looking at the how much singles we selling but then the ringtones everywhere I go I would hear songs on people's phones and I say yo how much like how much is that that you're paying for this is 4.99 bro I said damn that's for like a couple seconds yeah 4.99 and we selling singles for 199 for four minutes right right I said wait hold up this is different how much let me find out how much I'm getting so I call my attorney I say yo um how much do I make from those ringtones if somebody used my phone he said well let me check your contract he said oh well I don't know it's not in your contract I said what do you mean it's not in my contract he said it's not in here it says nothing about ringtone sales anything digital so that stuff that stuck with me so then I started making music specifically for the phone because it's 4.99 for a few seconds any basic business man to tell you that's where the money is so every song that we was releasing was very ringtone friendly especially Mr Lonely right so then we put that that's the original Tick Tock boom it is definitely the best the way you just described it yes that's right yeah you know what I'm saying so then we put the records out but we always make ringtone versions chop them up different parts of the song we chopped that was like my main focus I ain't care about the singles and we just focused on the folks every records I produce I make sure it's ringtone friendly and before you know it bro we was making so much on ringtones but it was money sitting in a pipeline you had to go claim it yes and they they think I know but I because they didn't know that I knew so I'm just letting the pile up letting the pile up renegotiation came all right this is good they try to slip that digital language in I said that's a separate deal all together my advance for the digital side because bro at that time I was in the Guinness Book of World Records for the most ringtones sold ever above Elvis Presley Michael Jackson any catalog Beatles it didn't matter we we trumped everybody so we just waited and you made a separate deal for oh yeah digital was a whole nother deal they had nothing to do it right sales and tapes and CDs this is digital this whole this is something we don't even know what this is yet right you know what I'm saying and that's where ringtones first fell under yeah digital's too broad right let's break that down like what you mean yeah it's too broad and these contracts do that to you because they can they can actually win because it actually literally is and they counting on you not really reading the contract or you're looking no they're counting on you not understanding it right but what's interesting is even the attorneys at that time didn't really understand it right because those guys are just guys sit in the office but I was always a tech tech I was just always Tech I was always ahead of text this is something about tech that I just I just always loved you know what I'm saying so the word digital make I knew exactly what that meant but I also knew where the world was going and I just ain't want nothing to come and not you know and I want to be a part of everything so I said no let's Define what this is specifically so if some a new technology come we can Define that as it comes you know what I'm saying so what's iTunes live back then no I told them at that time they was fighting against Napster yeah relationships for free yeah napsters was started that whole internet is the beginning of streaming honestly yeah yeah I put that [ __ ] and they said that music was gonna be free for all right they could not understand it all right look at today you know I remember when I went on Napster I cried they had all my [ __ ] on there I was like oh I was like oh my God what do you do what are you complaining to right like because I don't be wanting people to listen to my [ __ ] for free [ __ ] that [ __ ] them fighting the bootlegging she was beating up the poor boots [Music] come on what are you doing here sir okay so in the vein of seeing the future and the technology what are you thinking now about AI what's that where is that going I'm thinking about 25 years from now all right AI has created it's almost like you know they got this saying that everything you see in the movies eventually happens right it's actually very true well I Robot everything Matrix terminated let me explain how let me explain how I Robot and this actually relates okay we're talking about AI this is machine learning yeah the problem with about the problem with us as humans we are just very arrogant and we're super greedy It's never enough for us it always got to be more we always want more right as if right now whirling amazing that we just ain't satisfied right we just got to build better right why let me explain with with machines or computers for instance when you build a computer that can teach itself to teach yourself computers are already smarter than we are right right because of the computing power how fast they can right the computer's already smarter than us this is the process right so now imagine when this when the when the computer itself can teach itself all right what happens is it'll start teaching itself things that we can't uncode can we it'll coat itself it's thank you it'll coat itself and you can't control what it codes because depending on the original programmer whether he's thinking positive or negative whether he's someone that want to change the world or destroy the world right that's where it becomes complicated because if you find somebody that's creating situations that's in his best interest and he may just be smart enough to grow something that gonna continue to you know like uh uh uh teach yourself to a certain level then computers become a threat let's say hypothetically computers in the security sector everything's a threat to the computer right it doesn't know that you're approaching me right with good intentions right it just knows that you're walking up on me right with a gun on your on on you know on your waist right and it can react and you're hot and your blood pressure is spiked up right maybe just because you just take blood pressure medicine right all excited to see you right the first thing is going to happen is and that's what's happening they're using machines for weapon but in order to make a weapon you also got to make something that's going to protect right so what's gonna happen is everybody that's actually against AI becomes a threat now right so guess what they have to create machines to protect us from those who are against it [Music] right imagine that right we let's just say we don't want man we're not for that okay we're already on record they know where we live yeah they know where we at all times they have all our information all our data metadata everything about us they know bro all this trying to figure out if you're getting tapped yes [ __ ] you are bottom line they know everything that's how AI is even existing today with all this information right so now they know that we're against AI so-called against AI we're already a threat to the system so now those machines are watching us right checking for us the moment we make a move that feels that it's a threat to the whole situation we are terminated right and they can calculate your moves because the probability and say okay this is probably the thing let's take it further right they didn't already dealt with the ones that's against it all right now the ones that's against it got families they're going against them too now they're against it it's just a matter of time before those machines turn from protecting us to going after us right that I mean it may not happen like this but it's just a matter of time because the more the machines get smarter they become they become what takes control of everything guess how many jobs are gonna get lost yep millions of jobs I already seen the garbage truck with no garbage men now we're taking even a step further so the people that lost millions of jobs right ain't got no way to feed their family what they gonna do they're gonna turn to the street or turn to some against their own nature to feed their families so now they become the outlaw the animals the machines not have to protect those Outlaws that lost all their jobs because of the machines to feed their families and they become a threat and before you know it some tragic's gonna happen it's just a matter of time before we we kill ourselves yeah I mean it's not really far what it could do I mean it could be as simple as ai's created to protect the environment who's the the worst person against the environment it's the human things and then the guy says the human's the problem because we are because it's no one this is why it's dangerous no one like this is why it's dangerous The Wizard of Oz this is why it's dangerous nobody who controls me like this we created it okay to teach and control itself there's no there's no senses of it it doesn't have feelings yeah it doesn't have emotion it's so big like place somewhere where we like AI is there and there's multiple companies and governments like he said there's multiple entities right doing it in their own way or however they want right like there's there was an AI that taught itself a language that was never programmed to even learn a language right all right it's it's a thing to tell yourself Bangladeshi or whatever the the name of the languages but it is [Music] whatever but it taught itself a language but that's wild that a computer taught itself a language without being programmed to do that right the problem is we can't control it once it gets to the point of teaching itself all right because when it starts to teach itself it acts on where to teach yourself so yeah you can turn it off all right cool but there's a million other ones that's open right now they're still plugged in then when they are but you still have a big database in every part of the world because they always got separate database in case one go wrong and one get bombed or whatever but we just talking just basic analogies it's hypothetical right but now we're talking about war because really AI is really to gain knowledge and be able to gain positioning when it comes to war threats from other countries and other foreign Nations and whatever the case may be but the problem is the world is living on fear right and as long as we live in our fear everything is a threat so as long as everything's a threat nobody's safe that's the problem there's an arm race arms race to to create a yeah every government is doing it everybody's doing it use it as a weapon though that's what's dangerous that's the scarier part I thought they was doing it just to use biggie in Prodigy verses you ain't here Ice Cube Ice Cube said he said AI is demonic he said you use my voice I'm suing you and any platform that posted and I and I agree no music is actually this was the biggest threat I'm like you think I'm Prodigy on biggie I mean if you're talking about that is the message yeah for musical you're right it's endless things New York State of Mind I said wait a minute that's nice but what you got to worry about is when Nori is calling the police and say I admit to this crime that's what you got to worry about that's what the everyday person's voice being used right and that could be done by your baby mama they don't like you yeah Make some noise for me cause you got like nine wives right no comments no comments rewind that back I learned my lesson that's fine but you like more um uh making the record or performing it that's yeah me I like both man yeah I like both because it's nothing like making the record and creating something and you're like damn this is crazy but then when you see how other people are reacting to it that feedback that's that's the only how I experience really yeah so both yeah definitely we have the tickets to perform Africa Africa yes or Africa oh it don't matter you know Africa is always crazy wow always crazy India always crazy India India is always crazy you don't have to use your your eyebrows to say it yeah [Laughter] [Music] [Applause] [Music] he's a slap Steve B like yo treat him good that's my African I don't even sound right so um let me ask you right uh like um are you in the cars like I used to be because I used to be he literally told us he was into cars like 20 cars at one time 35 cars 34. that's the legit side though it's the ones that you yeah yeah I'm talking about legal acreage and they always white white interior every last one I mean it does come from the motherland bro interior white interior white exterior so you never smoked my [ __ ] they try and get me up out of here [Applause] so so damn and what are you in the muscle cars now at the time I was into more sport car supercars Lamborghini yeah Ferrari Bugattis all that stuff yeah punganis it's not it's not called Bugattis Bugatti let's not use pronounce it with a you got a Bugatti and then you have a pool no Bugatti and it was a uh it's a Bugatti and a Bugatti okay I don't know what a Bugatti is at that time was more expensive than the Bugatti it's called a Bugatti Zonda and where that [ __ ] come from that come from Italy it's an Italian car foreign [Music] at that time but you couldn't even get that in the United States because the specs didn't match the U.S standards so I bought it flew it to Canada and then drove it into the states that's how I got it in yeah and the troopers from Canada let you in they said there's a car let that again [Music] they like wow that's a nice car to a lot of criminals Canada is like so far away like you should never get in right got no Drake yeah Drake Drake got the pool yeah cause even now today when I go into Canada I have to fill out the whole I gotta leave a bond all that craziness wait a bond a 50 000 bond to make sure I don't start no trouble and if I come in with no problems and they give me the money back and it's all from my like 20 24 25 year old record from a record for yeah from 20 years ago bro like wait no but not a music record no like like you're ready yeah they go back into your your prize just your arrest record and they're using that against you now oh yeah yeah but you get in all the time so yeah but you got to go through the whole process getting a lawyer doing the paperwork really that's [ __ ] no yeah Canada don't play that's [ __ ] up that and they make you leave a fifty thousand dollars deposit you gotta leave fifty thousand dollar bar you're not gonna smoke again or get drunk you forget your fifty thousand I just make the promoter pay for it yeah [Applause] I'm sorry British oh yeah um you never your boy's just never around I was like Hey Akon hit some blood no of course everybody hung around with smoke weed yeah everybody you never smoked I used to love the smell of it I just couldn't smoke it you never smoked it was for religious purposes though okay yeah that's why I never smoked drinking religious purpose as well but even if I had a chance to drink after that accidental shot I would never do it again never ever holy moly guacamole absolutely so if you have one thing you would say that you regret doing that you would have done differently in the industry what would it be oh nothing actually nothing at all I feel like everything that you go through is for a purpose of like I don't believe I don't believe in mistakes all right okay so let me rephrase it so someone can learn from it right what did you do that seemed like a mistake but that you learned the biggest lesson from um let me think that seemed like a mistake but I learned the biggest lesson from getting arrested thank you absolutely because you know what's interesting was that was my turning point that was honestly the turning point for my life because just sitting in the box that long I was able to see my future I was able to say okay damn is this what I want for myself for the rest of my life this cannot be right this this can't be my life like it just can't right and that's when I created my 10-year plan on what I was gonna do when I get out to make sure I never come back in here um yeah so carving music was started while I was in jail you know I had a older uh OG named booney he was actually um older he was on his way to um uh death row you know he had killed his um his wife the record label my bad yeah bro my bad yeah dude he was just connecting through like passing through you know and he was like man with all this Talent like just imagine if you harness all that energy towards something positive right just think about it because half of the people in here they were successful at doing dumb [ __ ] like really but then once once you get popped all of it's over all that time all that thought all that process all that energy put into something that you're growing in you can't even keep it you got to watch it back like what's what's like why right but imagine I can find something that you're good at and just putting all that energy into that everything goes good for you after that when I thought about that I said man you know what you're right I said the only thing I could do now is music that's why you don't believe in no mistakes I don't believe in no mistakes I believe that everything happens yep everything happens for you to learn from it or it's a process or an obstacle you have to pass through to get to what your final destination is or to get to your purpose but I feel like everything is set up for you to deal with that and if you if you if you ain't at your purpose and the obstacles you're dealing with is to prepare you for that moment so I don't believe there's no mistakes you know that exists do you feel your the acon city is your ultimate purpose I think developing Africa is my ultimate purpose but I think Akon city is the beginning of it all of Africa all of Africa as much as I possibly can right that's just you putting the example for the for the rest of the movements absolutely yeah I'm gonna bounce around a little bit because um like the one thing I was loving going through your discography is just like it's just a global music like when you go in the studio is you trying to please everybody because you have those records that actually please every race every color creed whatever like you have a you have like a Universal Music if I you know cancer is that something you do on purpose or it's just it depends on how you make the beat like it depends how I feel that day like I make music according to how I feel but I don't I don't stagnate my music relating or box it up within genres like I just know what I just if it feels good to me I know it's gonna feel good to millions of other people all right so I never put myself in a position where I okay if I feel good I got to make a feel-good hip-hop record or a feel-good country record or feel good r b record I just make what feels good to me at that moment right and I just allow it to be what it is like I don't try to manage or change it to be what I think it should be I just allow it to be and then like I said hit records is always going to find his own audience just put it out in the audience and find it let me ask you because um I remember being in the studio with around for so long and me like working on my records and him other artists coming to see him right and other artists would be like yo man I want to beat like this right right and I want a song like this right and I remember he would I don't blame him I'm just like so so I just say okay I just say okay but by the time the song is done one thing I realized about artists as long as they are part of the process making right they're gonna love it right because it's really them just expressing so when they come and say well I want a record I want I want the record like R Kelly record all I want it just I'm like but yeah but you're not R Kelly number one that R Kelly record came because R Kelly wrote that record according to his experience what is your experience that can make R Kelly say I want a Nori type of record that's what we want to find today man you know what you're right bro all right well let's get to it [ __ ] what it is what we doing what's the topic girls love hatred what let's figure it out then from there it's a conversation right you know what I'm saying the conversation will always dictate the title of the song once you got the title everything else is easy so let me ask you if you're writing a record for somebody right is it a process that you happen to hang with them can you write a record for somebody that you don't know yeah you can I do it all the time okay but I'm just shooting in the dark okay and just is it better when you do know them it's a lot better when you know them or y'all had communication because then I can better understand them I like to make reality records records that fit the person that's singing it or records that they can relate to themselves because it makes them want it makes them more comfortable exactly I love the record and they'll perform it better they'll push it better like when they you know when you got something that you love you actually engaged right so the idea is give them something that they I think that they would that fit something within their life that they can attach themselves to so the conversation always works but if not it'd be like okay cool well you know what kind of field are you looking for just get basic information once I got it then I know because most people you got to worry about what they're not telling you right like one thing about the music business is that everybody's going through something the problem is nobody will tell you what they're going through because they have this image that they have to always portray to be bigger than the average right they pretend they have no problems everything is all good but those are the ones I know going through some [ __ ] but if they come and they spill it out oh man she's [ __ ] up that's the easy one because I know I just gotta I know what that is I just got to give him something to lifting that emotion right right but the ones that come man everything all good a million chains big Bentley outside man Leo life is good right I gave him a struggle record them [ __ ] being there like crying spells and whistles is to distract me for what you're really dealing with right you know what I'm saying that's what it is all right everybody bro you know everybody that's real that's right how many [ __ ] that you see they just look Rich As [ __ ] still going through and you man man I wanna gotta tell me how you doing this man like give me some advice man some success thank you all the advice and you'll listen and be like man that's what's up week later they calling you for a long um but it's gonna be behind an excuse all right well you know man my [ __ ] business magic [ __ ] up my taxes and [ __ ] man bro don't worry about it's all good here you go yeah wow you understand what I'm saying like they still even at the point of their bottom low they still want to make it seem like they're still so big and it was a big obstacle that made them have to come to you no one can just open their mind and be honest and transparent say yo bro this is wrong this is wrong man from your experience how can I fix this I don't [ __ ] that's how you do it because guess what now I might give you some information that never put you there again but you got to be real with yourself real talk but we just it's hard for us you know what I'm saying how about writing for a female females are very easy females to me are easier to write for than men because females are transparent okay they super transparent they wear their emotions they don't even think about it when they say especially when they feel in some kind of way and when you write records for them that that they feeling oh yeah you're gonna sell it because they know they got emotional record right emotional records always go good with females okay always and if it's gonna be an upbeat record it got to be an upbeat record that another female would be like where they'll be like oh wait she hear this all right that record has to make another woman jealous you know what I'm saying but the records that tap into their feelings and emotions yeah those always go that's why balance really work really well with women a lot but if you're gonna do up-tempo records it should be something that has a bality uh a topic but yet an up-tempo record that they can find themselves in a more happier space could you write for Rihanna all day one thousand percent how about Beyonce super easy and he said super easy yeah super easy because Beyonce got like right now what would be when you look at the music that she's getting like even with her like when I listen to her music I still feel like there's a lot more that I've heard that we ain't tatting he has a writer as a producer myself and how I read people I believe that there's so much that she wants to talk about on her records that she doesn't do it because of who she is and what she thinks people may think about her that's just me personally speaking right I think the records that she's making today are records that she just feel the younger generation will gravitate to but I don't think it's the essence of what that is and you're saying that lyrically and vocally but what about production wise production is following lyrics it's just following the person that's hot at the moment well a person that submits a great song but it's so like I I see her bigger honestly I feel I see her as almost like a a musical or Artistry like because you know profits come in different forms yes like for feminine and other she's their Prophet to me to them right because she speaks into the into their minds into their hearts like like you can't say anything wrong about Beyonce to a Beyonce fan no right that gives you a responsibility you understand what I'm saying right like there's certain ambiances of records that changes people's Outlook in life right and she has the potential to do that if she goes there if she decides to go there because I I personally believe that she will eventually go there right now she's bigger than life she can't get no bigger right there's nowhere else left to go with her she's the top of the top yeah I believe so you know what I'm saying right and rightly so because she's a hard [ __ ] worker yeah from what I know and what I've seen from this you can see yeah you understand what I'm saying like nobody she's the best that ever did it right but me personally as a fan I would want to see her get deeper like challenge herself more from a musical standpoint like go in places where even she ain't there to go just do it because I believe she has the capabilities to do that who else somebody um do you think that has capabilities to do that and hasn't reached it it hasn't reached it I think Chris Brown has that oh wow I think Chris Brown has it all day but when you think that he's not getting he's not tapping into his emotions no he's tapping into his emotions I just think he's tapped into the wrong frequency okay you know I think the frequency that he's tapped into won't allow him to grow Beyond who he is because he's surrounded by so many distractions you know what I mean but I think for what he does and what he what he represents to the this culture from a a performer from an artist from a vocalist he got what it takes it just got to be he's Fearless already we've seen him on Lovers and Friends uh I had to show what he had a show I saw I got to see him on stage boy he told me he's not [ __ ] yeah he goes and like I knew he went in but I actually that was like my first time kind of like like got to see it right like it was a problem but the good thing about Chris that he got plenty of time because he's young so he this is also Gathering all those voices all those you know Souls that he need to be able to you know influence in a certain kind of way I just feel like when God gives you that much power to influence or be influenced by so many different people that that that that is always like a responsibility to find somewhere to to Define all the challenges that's in society you understand what I'm saying like I just don't believe that we who we are for just the sake of just being who we are I believe that we're chosen to be who we are all right until we understand what our purpose is that's when we that's when we become impactful you know what I mean right so let's talk about I still kill with 50 real quick right how did that come about oh man 58 caught me with that one really cool 50 call me without him say your car so he he produced that one no no he got a it was another producer on under his Camp okay that actually did that one okay um and he was like yo Khan listen I Got This Record bro I'm you know what just call me back after you hear it all right he sent me I heard the verses I heard the beat I was like oh this is crazy and I'm listening to the lyrics I'm already knowing what he's saying but without saying it right right because at this point the [ __ ] he just sold Vitamin Water right this [ __ ] 250 million dollar [ __ ] you're like [ __ ] don't get it [ __ ] right right you know it's like that it's like how do we say that when [ __ ] know I'm not playing I got to see him perform too okay right you know what I'm saying yeah so I sent the back with the chorus on it and he was like [ __ ] this is it oh this is it all right but at the time I was kind of worried about where we would go because even me my my I was so pop at that time the question was like okay would it still be believable though no that's one thing I do question myself a lot what like when to go back to the street or if ever do I even need to go back to the street no no listen I'm not talking about physically I'm talking about music ain't no reason for me being a hood right all my hood [ __ ] though they got to come see me I'm not going there bro I'm not doing that they know this already but from a musical standpoint the question is because I always believe that my role plays a responsibility to them that was why I was raised in that environment to make a difference right so the only way to actually make an impact is to find a way to still tap in but you can't just go and forget about it like if you don't give a [ __ ] you understand what I'm saying like there has to be a sense of knowing okay there's a road that is still there for me to play that they won't take for granted now they're taking for granted then you can't really control what other people's decisions decide to make but for the most part you know you did your part right right so when I say go back to the streets I'm always talking music yes yes musically you can but I think my topic matter ain't gonna be what they want to hear right so you got to wait for the right time to give it to them because I feel like the music in in urban rap is lacking the message right because everybody's scared like to me when I listen to music it sound like everybody's scared to death because it's like this cancer culture no Castle culture comes from just being indecisive and not making up your own mind you're letting somebody else tell you what you think should be relevant and what's not that just tells me that the world that's not what you're talking about in this specific thing you're talking about this this specifically I listen to music it sounds like everybody's scared to death because what I know from the street is that when somebody's afraid they're gonna do something to distract you from you thinking that they're afraid right right and when somebody feel like that that you may be a threat it's like it's like a possum when you pull up on it a a porcupine when you pull up on it and all this what's names yeah it's all bravado you don't wanna tap into it because you might get stung so guess what when this [ __ ] first thing they do when they get scared oh [ __ ] I'm yeah I got that for real but you're not realizing that his chest is beating way harder than yours right right you understand what I'm saying so when I listen to the music that's what it's getting for me all right you got a whole bunch of young guys super well potential like the future in front of them all of them but they all scared the death because uh unfortunately it's our fault because we introduced that kind of music and made it cool right so now when they see themselves in real life they have to live up to that all right because if they don't and social media works so what happens is now they're active in a life that they don't really understand outside of the music side of that world right and this is why you got so many young rappers dying because they're making so many mistakes out of fear right what toy you said you was on what um when and they said that the Sweet Escape Sweet Escape toys Gwen Stefani yeah and you said who who try to uh Verizon Verizon yeah do you feel like that was the first kind of Step of people getting to this Castle culture thing do you think not really because there's been many companies have always done companies their sponsorships controversy you know you make an action but what they don't realize is if it doesn't have anything to do with what they're spousing you for they should just leave it alone what human do you know ain't gonna make a mistake all right especially that has nothing to do with their occupation all right like this is their job this is what they do great they did something they personal life that has nothing to do with this but yet you want to cancel them because you were afraid of what other people are saying of his personal action and I think that's unfair or even Adidas taking Kanye back they have no choice do you make some noise for that [Applause] yeah beautiful was a process honestly that was that was what my um uh with my wife um you know she she always you know that's that was around the time when I was peaking you know and everywhere I go you know this is your career yeah my career video shoots it's always beautiful women every event there's always beautiful women so that's always that insecurity that comes within women when you when they see that and everybody see her you the way she sees you you know what I'm saying so that song was inspired by just you know my conversations to her like you me like you mine number one without a doubt don't ever in your life think that anything is better than you like [ __ ] off the most beautiful thing in the world so that record was for her she needs to know that holy moly take it to who that girl I think I got a few titles with who that girl which one was away whichever one you want that's right yeah that was the biggest one yeah yeah so that one me and Flo was just waiting for the right time to wear like two pops for sure like and flow is like my brother from another mother like we super super tight and we had never worked together because of our schedules right but we was always bumping to each other and then one day we was like man look [ __ ] everything you're doing cancel what you got going we saw each other in Miami I mean in L.A and I was like let's let's just go do it because if we don't take man make the time it's not gonna happen all right and sure enough we cut the record in Miami and shot the video in L.A God damn it yeah how was the video yes Vibes Vibes big big record big big you know I'm smoking Ooka where we get this at [Music] what's on your writer oh my ride is very simple actually I got black tiles only black towels yeah black towels you said towels I said damn dude you gotta reconstruct your whole [ __ ] and make the Oilers blacked out especially it's very simple you gotta have black tiles that's what I thought you said black towels okay it is because normal time when you get off the stage you're always super sweaty and I used to have these white tiles and I'll be waiting yeah I learned that from girls girls the girls when they go to like my wife and them when they go to the restaurant man that's why they actually the black yeah okay what else is on your Rider juicer a juicer a juicer with a whole bunch of different fruits because I like to make juices and all that my wife owns a juice bar I could have burned juices yeah the next one when they said that you wanted a candle I said this [ __ ] different wait wait wait who told that one again [Music] that was so fly I said make sure y'all go get that look at that like that's the candle that's some fly [ __ ] what else is to burn off the spirits okay um no for the most part so you got you got the juicer you got the White Tile I love candy okay all right balance hold on hold on he just said a juicer give me the healthy [ __ ] and then give me the sugar what is the vegetables what are you put in the juicer what kind of fruit fruits it depends on what fruits I'm like every territory has a fruit right in the territory yeah you know you're traveling the world sometimes it's seasoned here that's kind of smart that's kind of smart yeah yeah yeah whatever the season you know orange season okay you know different things like that so that's that's like the best way to go okay and then last but not least candy candy what kind of candy though oh just different assorted candies like Skittles gummy bears make them pull out just the red skittles I've heard stories like that maybe like I want all red M M's and [ __ ] yeah [Music] Listen by the way because I always love like when I we interview we've been doing it seven years seven plus so I always love my favorite part is me asking them what they gonna drink right because like I I straight up judge you for what you're gonna drink you gotta know what kind of if a person order Old English I know what kind of show this is gonna be what if they order it depends on if they order backfires on us when we ask someone and they give us a whole writer of liquor oh yeah yeah who did that it's been a couple people they ordered like the the four thousand dollar bottle of this we like so we only got some Rockets [Music] is the same exact thing because I remember um me being an Egypt I remember me being in Japan and I came after LL so LL must have been the word is he had them looking for green apples and I guess in that part of Japan that [ __ ] ain't exists but they didn't want to tell LL no they paint the joists I don't know I don't know I remember the promoter like Japanese would get creative I was with edible paintings on my rider was [ __ ] what the [ __ ] ridiculous I booked you through violated the first time yeah that was violated we weren't putting all that [ __ ] on my rider packing some Gator I'm like don't forget cases yeah now some of them you gotta consolidate them yeah yeah you got it and so so what else is on your ride yeah what's your wildest thing on your right like KFC KFC I was usually gonna have a leopard or something oh no no I don't have nothing outside of KFC you got soft drinks and Waters that's it that's it that's because I don't be in there and Candy you got it you all over the place I gotta get with your homies I gotta get with your homies don't drink none of that right so let me tell you something if you have a brown a fat Joe show and you drink alcohol just go in his room and take it all I'm like we was in Vegas with him the other day I was like my brother yeah we're gonna take it off never go to a club this is my first time in like 15 years I went to a club and I spent a dollar like not even not even a dollar like I had to tip the waitress it was all there already we just grabbed the [ __ ] it was like is it okay we go to our room he's like go ahead we literally took his whole bar his home and guess what Akon drink it all yeah nothing like okay cool what's on your Rider yeah I got it no yes I did that for our Vegas show I did buyable you like large that's a Bacardi Fireball what do we eat then it was vegan something that you gotta have y'all yeah yeah I'm pescetarian yeah he's passing today and you said your favorite part is is Africa to perform yeah what is your favorite state in America to perform uh I'll probably start City favorite City uh probably Jersey I was hoping you said Jersey yeah I was hoping you said we gotta address this French Montana has not let this go you're right we see you walk in with the that's the panther Cartier yeah the them bracelets them trust me guys out of this roof and you can't even get these you got it on you have to protect are you ever gonna give French a watch so he could stop telling this story so you can even it out listen me and Prince got got that day I didn't know what a hue blow was I just knew that I liked that that was just a nice watch right so the dude was you know selling watches and I said how much is that watch and he's like you don't know me like 15 20 000. I know he said but I got a guy that can get a Swiss five I was like okay cool give me three of them so he met me at the W Hotel with two of the watches the exact Time Square W Hotel Time Square W hotel with the same exact type watches now mind you I'm not knowing the details I just know that watch looked like the one that I liked in the jewelry store that's all I know I'm not into watches at the time I wasn't okay so you in the jewelry store you see the watches this guy says to you hey I could give you yeah yeah no don't spend that money I got you this is not Canal Street it was Canal Street yeah [Music] oh okay I spotted the one that I liked on Canal Street oh yeah and it was on the Chinese side with the good [ __ ] no the good [ __ ] okay no can I got two sides okay yeah okay you got the ones that go through the back room and do all that right okay this is the good side right so Danny said don't want to meet you at the hotel so he got me to the hotel and he showed me like all these beautiful now mind you I'm I don't have no knowledge of timepieces at the time right I'm just an African [ __ ] I just know what I like and I buy what I like I don't know Hublot was very difficult to tell though okay but at that time I didn't even know he didn't even know what it was he just like I just know I like the shape they look expensive it looked good it looks nice and he goes shaving ten thousand dollars off why not I think about it right so mine you didn't even say Hublot on it yeah that's just an acorn on it before so [Laughter] so he comes to the hotel man that watch is dope man look I got one for you oh he's happy we both walking out like we [ __ ] we chilling whole day not gonna be like this [Music] [Applause] so we go off everything is good [ __ ] called me a week later yo bro I said what's up yo the watch bee I said what he said man that [ __ ] ain't real I said yes it is he said I said what's wrong did it stop working like did the hand stop he said no this [ __ ] ticking is working I said [ __ ] this shit's real he said no he said [ __ ] I thought this was hillblow I said what's that he said [ __ ] you ain't know this is a fake you blow I said what is a hillblow so then I said let me start looking around then I saw it I was like oh [ __ ] this to watch that I saw at the store this [ __ ] cost this much then I was like damn bro my bad man look look just just keep it as a token of my appreciation bro it hasn't been subliminal I mean it wasn't at least worth the five chains [ __ ] I kept wearing mine [Music] I got so many compliments on that thing man oh yeah yo me and fresh laugh about that [ __ ] every day so now he's like yo I'm saying when you go you're gonna give me a new watch I said [ __ ] what I gave you you need to be wired you need to buy a million he said was he actually signed to you yeah so so he was so special sign to me um and my thing was I wanted to go International with him right so at that time French was just making four beats back then afrobeats but just more commercial to cross over okay and eventually take them to Africa okay because my whole thing the French was like bro you African like [ __ ] you're from Morocco yeah like do you remember yeah so when you leave America everybody that's hash in the world without a doubt thank God I don't know about that part I apologize I do you know what I'm saying I said [ __ ] this is this is it so as we start going on he's still making records but more catering for New York right so then he came to me say yo man and I think I want to just do I want I really want a base and make sure my my my my [ __ ] in New York is really cementing properly so I think we should find a partner that could work with us for New York I said oh [ __ ] think about somebody let me know and he's like man what do you think about Diddy I said [ __ ] he's just the King of New York of course all right why not all right you know what I'm saying so he was um flying to Vegas to go meet with Diddy and then uh when he got there he put Diddy on the phone then he was like [ __ ] bro sugar we'll be doing brown sugar can he be calling me brown sugar let me know what we doing [ __ ] what we doing I said man listen this kid right here to me is the biggest thing for me in New York and I can't take him where he's trying to go in New York the only thing I can see is a partnership with you to put it off right and and pull that off and he was like man listen with your blessing if you let me take this one I got it I said man like well go ahead take it wow and that's how we made it we end up moving so how you started doing stuff with Diddy wow because I was always the kind of artist like even though when I signed acts I'm not the kind of artist that I want to find the best wait for you to go cause me my goal is to make you bigger than me if I can do that was that something you learned off of Jimmy Iovine saying this was before Jimmy oh this is before this was just me seeing how like Executives look when one of theirs is huge right it makes you look like a genius sometimes the artist can be humongous without even all your involvement but you're still going to get the credit because of the fact that you put the person out into the marketplace you know what I'm saying right so I always looked at as I always looked at it from a leveraging standpoint because I always saw music as a stepping stone or a bridge to get to the real business so people that's around me have to be attached that they have to be successful for me to have these pitches taken seriously you know because now they're looking at my track record in the in the in the sector that which I'm actually active in okay is he successful there right okay cool so clearly he knows what he's doing okay now how can we use that to break this brand or partner with this brand or take this piece of label to the next level you know what I'm saying right right if if right now right I know you you told me the places to go in Africa but if I wanted to invest in in Africa right what is what are some of the things that actually look to things the first thing you should invest in and I think that should be everybody's focus is real estate it's real estate real estate how easy is it to be easy super super easy but you don't want to invest from here you want to go there so you physically go there physically go there like that's like if you're gonna just do it by sitting here you might just go to Vegas and just toss your money in the casino got you because the thing is with investment you got to know what you're investing in you got to be able to see the land see the potential see the areas that's growing that's moving in that direction real estate is very it's mathematical but you also have to have information through certain people to know which direction the development is headed and that's the area where you want to be you know you don't want to go right where the um the investment is actually building now but the development is going in that direction in the next two three years and get it at that level right so by the time you get there they have to come see you you know what I'm saying you can either be a partner in the development or you could sell it out for five six times multiple on what you purchase it for you know what I mean uh but land right now is the best place to start in Africa because everybody in the globe is investing in Africa and it's all coming into development so if you can acquire that land before they get to it you go man you're golden for the rest of your life does that help Africans for people from outside to invest in in buying land absolutely because it creates an economy it creates jobs it creates more opportunities for even them to be able to do things because we got to think Africa in a in a big way is lacking resources so if people don't come creating or bringing resources there it's going to be on standstill right so it benefits yes it benefits then when people come and invest and create opportunity now how about it be like I'm a condo guy I don't really like how right which is even better actually condos go even quicker oh wow man listen in Senegal right now you can't find just the land to build a condo in the city for 750 000 acre wow that's an acre wow 750 000 per acre and that's just a land Buy sell before the condo's up once the condo's up they starting at a million dollars each wow and that's the person that was buying land at the time when we was buying land now look where they at with it like um if everyone is moving to Puerto Rico right now because for the tax credits right is there a place in Africa where there's a tax break like people have that Dubai I believe too as well listen everywhere in Africa is a tax break ain't no tax you got to keep your money there because if you bring it over here then you're gonna have to pay yeah but that's I mean that's I mean that's just you know whoever is your CFO they'll tell you exactly how to move your money around but I think the confidence right now in the near future is the most safest way to park your money and it's gonna be I mean that's where everybody's going right everywhere else everybody's afraid trying to pull their money out so they can be able to freely spend it right you know man this is crazy man yeah so get to it yeah I'm getting to it so so let's leave the hottest spots again Ghana Nigeria right now Ghana Nigeria Senegal Rwanda um uh uh uh Kenya Kenya Kenya is very hot right now um Cape Verde beautiful islands it's almost like like the yeah like the West you know um like Rhode Island yeah yeah um yeah so all the Cape Verde is in Africa like uh Tanzania Tanzania super opportunities over there um without a doubt when it comes to real estate housing affordable living and amazing South Africa beautiful beautiful bro beautiful houses beautiful beaches and it's cheap it's not even expensive Cape Town looks Cape Town is amazing and it's I mean the price point bro man whatever you spending in Miami right if you see the house that you can buy with that yeah on the water with the splashes of that water every morning and Johannesburg to me it reminded me of like New York in the 80s like the way that the Metropolitan like view of it is is dope no no I'm the same no no you're right you're right and I'm just saying like the way that the city I would give it more of a like Johannesburg it's more like which is describing Cape Town is more like Venice right you know what I'm saying it's more business Italy or Venice in L.A no venison yeah black probably Venice in L.A okay I mean it's in La yeah but I mean but they they got the political news they got to deal with that yeah but I think that's everywhere yeah I think as a once you become a notable you know like entrepreneurial over those areas you get influence so politics don't really affect you right because you get in bed with those guys you get to do business you know to help move policy forward for your agenda their agendas like it's all about you know it's just business politics and the people are amazing out there oh yeah I mean I've only been to South Africa but the people were amazing yeah they are as you open a drink Champs Bar after oh that would be crazy bro that would be crazy only in South Africa though because a lot of countries in Africa are Muslims so right 95 of those populations don't drink or smoke right they'll do it in quiet or after hours spots like that but like any any areas like Uganda would be good for that anywhere in South Africa Nigeria they drink out there right Nigeria will be good for that because Nigeria's split has happened what's the place where they say like they stay open almost 24 hours you just keep partying I know Nigeria parties man Nigerian parties that's Nigeria God does it when it's time like during festive festive moments and months oh okay you know when people come from all over the world they just be partying all night all right yeah oh man all right I'm convinced hey man you can watch my documentary coming home South Africa right now I gotta watch that I think I said this to you on the last episode but I remember me all the time getting shows in Africa right and like you turn them down no they I'm saying you need you need oh no yes this is way before you don't need it yeah that's how they always used to say that I think it's a choice now I'm gonna say something without signing a racist but blacks and Latinos don't need shots for Africa all right really yes they're already in your DNA white people is a little bit different because they more the the temperature and the kind of things that their their skin and body can withstand a lot of it won't survive in Africa so they need shots to you know to kind of boost their immunes and stuff but y'all straight I mean I definitely didn't take a shot when I went to South Africa yeah you won't need it yeah it was good we ate good we drank good yeah it's true yeah yeah it's like it's like it's like when I go like to the North Pole like when I go to North Pole I got to take shots I can't be around places too cold I get sick hold on you've been to the North Pole once was Santa there I took shots but Santa there huh the Santa there hell no wait what the [ __ ] is the North Pole like I think you know this [ __ ] it was a problem it was a private Wedding by a wealthy Russian family it had to be bro I froze my balls off I said I'm never going back there ever but I remember I remember having to take shots before I went and what was your shots like I don't even know what it was I don't even know what it was it was like the opposite of all I know that it was they said you might want to take the shot before you go all right I said I'm good he said no trust me you're black you got to take a shot oh [ __ ] that's when I realized oh [ __ ] certain people just survived better in certain parts of the world because of our DNA yeah yep besides Africa where's the illest part in the world that you like um uh performed and we was like freaked out oh the endless part you know what I think probably the one place that I did perform and I didn't expect it to be I didn't expect it to be as crazy as it was was Lebanon Lebanon yo Lebanon they call it the Vegas of the Middle East something like that or the Paris of the Middle East no no I swear to God I didn't realize how crazy yo those polygons are the craziest wildest fans I ever was in front of Lebanon oh my goodness they just had some crazy Civil Wars Lebanon and Pakistan Pakistan was crazy too really crazy Pakistan was crazy audience as religious as they are yeah it was packed and CR no that audience when I tell you I can't imagine if y'all to perform right there with y'all type of music all right oh my goodness what did you see I would call it and Rick Ross and then went to Saudi yeah yeah where'd they go they went to Saudi yeah they went to Saudi College Saudi Arabia oh yeah then they um they did the thing uh it was the festival it was a festival it was like they second or third year doing it like but it was like the first time like in years they could actually listen to music so you can actually hear their response being late like you know when you go like this and you let the crowd yeah speak like because they're like so not used to like hearing music there was a little late I was like oh they knew the words but they were just a little late it was like it was against the religion too it was it's ill to see like the world get modernized yeah it is again like I said so many times it was described Africa and they would describe the jungles and like you know you're gonna land with a spear you know what I mean like you're like you're like we're like a stereotypical [ __ ] right and I believe Tyler quality was the first person like man they got W's in Africa and um you know most deaf still out there he lives in South Africa been there for almost well we've been we saw him out he's he's been out here a lot doing it but I think yeah his name is Yasin yeah I still call him when it's not disrespectful I love him to death but he knows yeah yeah he can call me Ali I'm cool yeah that's that's your muslimness well that's my first name it's your first name yeah okay God damn it that's why everybody don't you got a ill wrong name yeah you gotta look that one up it's so long he don't want to say it right I feel like I'm writing a paragraph was that something that kids joked on you in school nah they never knew okay yeah the teacher would just be like Ali charm she ain't gonna embarrass me because back because back in the days they just we used to have the Haitians right and they used to wear the Jamaican belts they used to want to be the Jamaican they didn't want to be Jamaican I see you in my own eyes this will happen the haitious was just being haitious and everybody thought they was Jamaicans because they wore the same colors right right did you ever wear the Jamaican belt oh yeah absolutely I want a Jamaican belt I wanted uh the the holy um [Music] them valleys bro to who the Bally's The Valleys the clocks don't say the clock no what my generation My Generation wore Bally's okay yeah clock clocks a little bit before me yeah but I'm gonna beat bbds you just [ __ ] bbds you don't know about those I couldn't do the silk okay yeah right he was a silky boy the silk was more Latin that was more Latin all right my bad he went out yeah [Music] you can take the patch off [Music] jeans no I don't think it had to be a little hickeys jeans out here edwins no we don't that's what we had in Miami that's what we had yeah really uh what about them cross colors though cross colors those colors yeah car was just too high yeah he was so expensive oh damage you said damage used gas is still lit out here your Bow's over yo but you know who you you know who made an amazing comeback though MCM yo technically didn't go away and they just just it really did go away in our community but it didn't go away period it stayed in the malls though it stayed in the mall like Benetton is over I don't you don't see Benatar no more you should have stayed in the malls yeah it did the MCM stayed in the malls it just didn't our culture wasn't [ __ ] with it because you know wild culture [ __ ] with it when Dapper Dan took it right and made that and chopped that [ __ ] up and then when MCM didn't accept him and Gucci that's what happened Timberland that's the same thing happened Yeah Tim says [ __ ] us at first yeah and then we said [ __ ] you back and Tim said let's make it right right Tim said let's make it right and we made it right crystal did not say let's make it right that's the reason why ace of spade is here you know one of the dope champagne in the world I like talking about this uh uh uh who else who else uh friends back there remember Elise yes absolutely Fila adidoris crazy Dia Doris no we just said theodores man I said that oh okay my bad you know I ain't drinking yeah you know she commute wrong I would have been on point if I was drinking uh oh man oh damn what I was around but man yo Akon man we really appreciate you stopping Bob man absolutely oh man he was funny as hell beautiful man did everything right man y'all flowers [Applause] [ __ ] man he said give me a scented candle man that's what I'm gonna do I'm gonna start doing that in my um Riders I scented candles it helps you think Sage Works no oh hey what's the other [ __ ] I think that one works I guess it depends on who's lightning because the mind is a beaut like a mine is a powerful thing if you believe it it works well that's that's the thing with all that stuff yeah if you believe it's just smoke it's just smoke and then the ship fell and then see say he's got mad Sage got bad oh that was confirmation well it was confirmation depending on who's taking the information you gotta say you're right and what's the other thing what's the other name of it Palo Santos I like that better because the smoke doesn't come out dark it's like it smells so so okay so Sage is supposed to delete all the evil spirits from the room drive them away drive them away yeah at least that's which one you think is more powerful the sage or the prayer so why waste your money I do say jam prayer and follow Santo yes cause yo yo and you Muslim right every year during Ramadan it felt it feels pure yeah this is the only year during Ramadan I just felt nothing but evil really like I mean and then I I accidentally huh no no I said wow I asked one of my Muslim friends I'm sick and I said yo this is the first Ramadan like every every time Ramadan comes around like me as a non-muslim i i participate right but I feel just pure positive energies the first time in the years I've been practicing and then my friend Sig says to me he said because they're the most of Ramadan is when people reveal themselves that's true and I was just like oh [ __ ] he it wasn't like the people were being evil it was just kind of just revealing themselves did you feel that well I spent this whole Ramadan in Africa I was in Africa a whole month of Ramadan wow in Senegal in Senegal I was there the whole month so I didn't feel anything but boy I could tell you the cause I would get after I broke fast right number drama on this side what you mean on broke fast at night period yeah because you know when yeah after you break fast you go back to your normal activities right because I know we don't use a phone when I'm fasting because it'll distract me right right but for the most part you know when you call back home or you go back to some of your homies or people that you mess with on this side yeah it was like and you you actually more awoke during the during during the month you know the month because you actually notice things that you're not really noticing because you're more spiritually awoke you know what I'm saying so you you clearly can see the difference in people's attitudes people's actions emotions and then it kind of makes you ask yourself why to a lot of things okay you know what I mean so then after that a month is about figuring it out at that point yes yes and so um if it was finished yeah okay so um maybe y'all know drink Champs wants to give flowers while people are here to receive them give them flowers and celebrating our Legends while they can still smell them we have partnered with what the flower to create this movement where everyone can give flowers to the Legends in their lives you can now order a custom flower box for the someone you want to show appreciation to by visiting www.wtflower.com and place your orders now man I appreciate it you know this mean more than any award that you can get on some real [ __ ] because it means that you appreciate it by your peers you appreciated by the people that you do it for and I accept my flowers [Applause] cause you homeboy who made the record Joanna uh that was um afrobeat afrobeat afrobeat you jacked this whole [ __ ] with wakanda actually uh it was a rendition it was a re-endition yeah I love the song so much I had to redo it so I made a response to it okay so because you know sometimes when uh because you're a big you're bigger artist right does uh does that that newer artist get married no no no because I asked the question oh okay oh yeah you don't that's a [ __ ] I see your afro be this record this is my favorite record man let's go I said do you mind if I do a rendition he said hell no matter you know this must like me that's my pleasure so I did it send it to him he flipped he actually was gonna get on it with me but then I said man if you do that it won't be like the rendition that I want you know what I'm saying right I said let's mean you do a fresh record together so it's just like fresh and then ever since then I've been just advising them on this International stuff so it went from me loving the record getting the permission to me working with him as an advisor to do his International stuff and was that originally would you do it as a freestyle at first or you did it like to remake the record no I did it just for fun it was like it was a parody for me okay like have you seen the video with me and Michael Blackson no oh you got to see the video man that [ __ ] is hilarious it's almost like I Just Had Sex Type of video it's a monster right yeah so yeah you got to see it it's up there okay so for the record he did not get mad you supported me artists I hope y'all heard what he just said you want to remake someone's record call them up I mean he might have been flattered by it I mean it was like prime example like that was times we were in the same city I would perform my version then as mine is about to end he come out with the actual version but don't go crazy you know what I'm saying so like we actually yeah we teamed up on that like that or the other way around I'll pop up from the back you know what I'm saying all right he go from Joanna to wakanda you know what I'm saying because Nori's worried about people doing his records over I don't know let them do it let them do it yeah he got a thing he's weird about it man that preserves you yeah do you know how many songs you know how many times my record has been resampled redone I haven't dropped the record since 2008. all right [ __ ] that's 15 years all right yeah you would have thought it was just yesterday because these little [ __ ] are keeping me preserved until I'm ready to drop another record which we'll be dropping by the end of the year all right yeah but that was just for Africa territory that was just for Apple that was just for Africa and what's the name of that that was um um uh what was the title I named that one that was um that was a condor icon it's sold sword so you're saying you're making a global oh no like the basic the original traditional acocks right yeah a lot of experimenting just having fun with it I did an afrobeat album I did a Latin album like I did it was old either the Indian like Hindi album you did a Bollywood music yeah bro I got Bollywood songs all through these movies oh you killing them man having fun I didn't did some K-pop records like I was everywhere holy [ __ ] International for real absolutely even if you go to Dubai you hear me speaking I'm in records doing Arabic music like and it's you doing this no it's in their language it's me right now I believe she's going to speak who me yeah no comment that's a dangerous man right there no only because I'll be in rooms where I need to know that's right they don't even know what language yeah yeah yeah I promise you I hear it all right it'd be hilarious though it'd be so funny man it's the right no comments anything else you want to talk about um yeah but so I am excited about this new record I'm about to drop it's done already yeah the album's finished oh wow we're dropping at the top of the Year traditional acons Universal's dropping the best of Akon um around we thinking like around November October November time and then shortly after that I'll be introducing the brand new album so December January it's the timeline is October November okay if everything works as planned you said the best of is October November yeah the best of and then the album is dropping right after the fourth quarter not that right yeah okay so yeah so be prepared for new holidays to be hearing some new music now now I you know back then we should drop singles right like nowadays they like there's no singles it's just drop the album right everyone is biting off of Beyonce because Beyonce invented that like just drop the album as you're going to just drop the album or you know it's gonna be a beat up it's gonna be a lead up and that's that's why we're doing the the best of Akon releases first you know team up with universal activate my old fans and people just kind of reminding them that's smart remind them you know remind them get them back into the acons you know energy and then just come with a new album right yeah two singles probably oh oh no we everything is a single there ain't no such thing as a okay no albums man listen the whole album dropping same day right video for everything man video for every single song that's right I'm going next to me absolutely it makes sense to me absolutely and again the dream artist to work with the dream artist to work with is Sade um I just left yes in my list of artists that I wanted to work with that I haven't worked with yes she seems Untouchable like you can't get to her I don't have a connection to her she's like invisible she's like a what you said she's invisible she's ill man like a wizard as many people as I know I still haven't found one person that can get me to her yeah how about Drake I love Drake he's my favorite artist today you guys are making incredible music I think we definitely would yeah no for sure I think we definitely would yeah the only thing I think that started was I just wasn't in the music space at the time right but I think when I get back in I think there's some great opportunities for me and Drake to do something crazy together yeah yeah who else before we get up out of here um then you work for everybody bro I have there's only one rapper that I haven't worked with yet and I still to this day can't figure out why it's Jay-Z he's the only one I haven't worked with yet and I always thought that maybe it's because of the timing of our careers going this probably was the time it all I mean because bro I'm I'm a huge fan I don't know how you feel about me but I always felt like that could be something that would be crazy I think that would complete complete me from an Urban Music standpoint making out making that happen yeah I think that I think I would just be sure how that [ __ ] sounds that would be crazy well who would you prefer you on his album or him on yours or both I think it would make it I don't think I don't think it'll make a difference get it done yeah honestly I prefer it on his album okay because I know it'll guaranteed be pushed all right it's guaranteed to go number one [Music] yo you know how long me and now has been trying to connect Jesus it's it's just been faith I promise you believe me that's supposed to been happening me and Nas always trying to get together but it's just he's so International I'm so International it's just like it's just being in the same place at the same time and artists like me and him we just don't see us working over the Internet we just got to be in the room together absolutely and I think that's why I don't do it on there yeah that's the only reason why we didn't happen earlier because I think it'll just be bigger if me and it was in the same room that's what me and efn say all the time like we sometimes we do this uh say analog or digital right and we always kind of like pick analog and the reason why is because I feel like the music that was made in the 90s early 2000s you can't come yeah it's better because we can't compare that real you had to actually come to my studio the culture of analog a record for your energy you can't even imagine you have to be in the same same room right so as you do you think that's that's true like um I think it depends on the artist right I think some chemistries are better when they separate it yeah some people just who make great music separated but then when they get in the same room the energy may be different because one may be shy you just never really know so in this generation that works out better because a lot of these artists are very like anti-social they low-key super weird like you get close to them they just start you know what I'm talking about like they don't they cry they just mute they don't say nothing damn I've been here 30 minutes like y'all want to ask me nothing you know because this is weird back then too but not like this though yeah damn you kind of right damn yeah but back then they were forced to be together so yeah but you can only be weird so long yeah before you're like damn Max but man the crazy part about it is when you DM them they can't shut up for sure um yeah uh the other day right I see I've seen the uh uh a kid I don't want to say his name but we were sitting there and he knew Dominique Wilkins was he knew Chris Webber was he knew who all these people who don't play but him as a as a kid right but then someone asked him and he's a rapper someone asked him who cares one was he had no clue wow someone asked him who Rock him was he had no clue someone asked him who Biggie Smalls was he had a clue but he wasn't do you think that's something that in hip-hop and and our genre that we it's something that we should actually learn like learn about our culture like if the same way you learn about basketball and you learn about these are Patrick Ewing sneakers shouldn't you learn about big punishing you learn about well belly Mel I agree we should learn but we just we don't learn because like learning has to be motivated right the reason why you know about a lot of these you know basketball players and some football players for that matter they have these hall of fames that recognize them in their abilities and also you know give them the just of their creation and present it to the people that might have not known what they're responsible for right hip hop is the only music that we don't celebrate the founding fathers right we don't have a foundation to help them because most of them in bad situations they prayed the way for us like we this is stuff that we as a coach is just naturally just do right yeah they do it as a natural culture they hold museums teach each other history to the point where their history is being taught to us because we don't even have or preserve our own history right you can't blame them that's the only history that exists because they preserved it right when did we have a preserve African history or black history outside of the parts that just hurt us so bad that every time we do something and we fail we use it as an excuse you thought I'm saying so as a culture we got to be better right right we have to and it got to be with people that understand that that you know actually exists and the people that actually has the power and the resources to actually make it happen like that's something that would help us believe it or not because it keeps us empowered longer because this culture is not some it's really up for grabs I don't care where you go in the world like everywhere you go in the world hip-hop exists yeah but it exists in their language and they're talking about their culture to the point where New York can't even claim it no more that's right I've been saying that yeah you follow what I'm saying yeah but had New York created the museum which right now Universal hip-hop Museum yeah use all the hip-hop artists as a way of pushing people to it though it's okay to have it but who's there no no they just they just they're creating it now like we need to support it though they got a lot of support though the knowledge behind it a lot of the foundations and Curtis blow then Karis ones is that history man we cannot allow we're late we're late that's the thing we're all late to it it's all late like right it's even why we created the show right because there wasn't there wasn't a platform that was given a voice to artists that necessarily weren't on a press run anymore right right right and that's why we did it because nobody was giving us a voice right a DJ and an MC that they felt was washed up and old right right now okay we will create our own platform there you go and we did [ __ ] man congratulations [Applause] I wanna I wanna Big you up your staff man you know for coming through man no thank you exactly who you are man continue your success we want to support you if I don't remember we don't give a [ __ ] if you want to promote pink toenails yeah we can come on here anytime you wish we appreciate that brother so last time I got drunk and uh but this time I stayed sober because I want that's what you respect I want to give you respected thank you let me know let me let me let me stay sharp you know what I'm saying he did me last time I said I wanted to be sober yeah yeah yeah no no no that's because no he does because the person that's ever been on the show before he'd been on the show come on okay you can't let a person who's never been on this show oh my God we need the real EFA come on man it don't matter like we need you to DJ we need you to DJ come on DJ man look at the picture yeah [Music] [Applause] thank you foreign

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Length: 195min 51sec (11751 seconds)

Published: Sat Jul 15 2023