55 lb Pro Grade xl VS 66 lb Acciaio Anvil: Which Cheap Amazon Anvil Should you Buy?

hello everybody welcome back to the workshop so in this video I'm gonna do a little bit of a comparison this is just to check out the comparison do a little bit of comparison testing here let you know what I've done with my results on this 55-pound what they call a pro grade XL anvil that I bought on Amazon versus this 66 pound a Chia anvil I believe that's how you pronounce it anvil that I also bought but I bought this one over on eBay as where I bought this one on Amazon but this one's available on Amazon as well I will put the affiliate links in the description for these so you can go check out these anvils if you're interested and reading up on the company's specific data about these two anvils that way I don't have to bore you with all those nitty-gritty details we can just get right into the video so I bought both of these anvils and why why did I buy both of these ampuls let's settle that first and foremost I bought both these anvils for precisely this point a lot of beginners are just getting into the craft and you're wondering what anvil you should buy and there's a lot of flashy marketing a lot of just miss information when it comes about them just come driven out there by the companies themselves and as well as just you know propagated around the internet on what's a good and well what's not based upon personal preference so I hope these videos will help you out in making an informed buying decision when you go to take and buy an anvil now I plan on doing a lot of different anvils this year buying in quite a few and reviewing quite a few and we'll just see how that goes and how long Roy's piggy bank last to be able to do that but anyways the goal is to take and help you all out there and I hope that that is felt in these videos so let's jump right into the differences shall we obviously this anvils taller this anvil shorter this anvil is a lender London pattern anvil this here is what they call a European pattern and or a lot of people know them is like a German pattern anvil i preference myself a german pattern anvil or european pattern over the london pattern anvil that is a style choice that's based upon you both have their advantages and disadvantages one advantage that the London pattern anvils usually have is they have a shelf that you know with a cutting table that you can use to cut you know cut work off on so you don't have to damage the face as where the European patterns usually do not have a shelf on them and that can become a bit of a nuisance you ought to take and drop in a cutoff plate or a cutting plate in the hardy hole this horn over here on this fifty-five pounder that's not quite known right off the bat is this has more of an ellipse or like an elliptical type horn so it's more like a farriers type horn to where it has an arch on it's got a flat and then two arch sides and then flat and then arched again like so so it's not it's like a round square if you will so it is not a perfectly round horn as where the a CHEO anvil is this little sixty-six pounder now this is a 55 pound anvil it looks bigger it looks bigger but in reality it's just taller the mass is redistributed differently where this is a wider in shorter fat anvil this is a taller more narrow and vil if you will the face on this one is just a little over four inches and I'll check that right now or no not a little over four inches sorry three and a half inches wide that's exactly what it is which a handful I was looking at that had over four inches and this one there you go there's a little over four inches so it's four and a half inch wide so this here's four and a half or thereabouts this one here is three and a half so you lose an inch in depth and you gain it basically in the height of the anvil is what's happened here the hardy hole on this anvil is a 7/8 inch square hardy hole where the hardy hole on this anvil is a 5/8 inch square hardy hole that really doesn't matter a whole lot it just means this you have to make smaller tooling for than this I would still recommend making small tools it's just as handy especially when you're doing it by hand to start with you know smaller bar stock to make your hardy tools out of versus having sail 7/8 or a one-inch hardy hole hardy hole and you have to start with inch and a quarter stock versus 5/8 you can start with like inch or less diameter stock and still be able to make a decent hardy tool out of it the other main differences to this I have bought a testing kit a hardness tester kit it's a sue boson it's made in Japan these are hardness files I'll put a link to those as well down in the description down below and these go from 40 Rockwell all the way up to 65 Rockwell and hardness and that's on the C scale and I tested both of these anvils this anvil came out to below 40 Rockwell so 40 Rockwell just bought bit right into it so it's probably in the 30 Rockwell or less range probably right around 30 Rockwell would be my guess so this is super soft dead soft if you will and probably a little bit too soft for a professional grade blacksmithing so the pro grade Excel I wouldn't get hung up on that it's not a pro grade it's not a professional grade anvil will this work for you as a hobbyist most likely yes and it's a big step up from the Harbor Freight but we'll get into all those comparisons at a later date when I compare all these different anvils side-by-sides anywho this one here however Rockwell tested at between 45 and 50 Rockwell so that goes to reason that the company states a rockwell hardness around 48 to 52 Rockwell at least that's the best I can gather from the various different you know companies online companies it's all the same probably all the same company just by different surnames over here pseudo names but uh anyways the best I can gain some of them are claiming 52 Rockwell other ones are claim all the way down to say you know say 45 Rockwell 248 Rockwell and I can confirm this one it scratched right at 50 Rockwell so most likely it would be down in that roughly that 48 Rockwell range so 45 to 50 Rockwell 45 went touch at 50 would so there you go that's my anvil your results in mileage may vary again it's hard to get a straight answer from the company yeah they they just don't answer a straight answer so just kind of one of the deals that you get both of these anvils are economically priced I believe this anvils a little bit cheaper than what this anvil is I don't have the numbers right in front of me to remember it so now I'm going try again you can look at it yourself and those prices do fluctuate depending on market demand and things of that nature but I believe this anvil I believe this anvil we pick this anvil up for right around $100 us plus some shipping on top of that as where we picked up this anvil again without having the exact figures on me I believe it was 130 shipped to us so they're very comparable and pricing so which one should you buy that which one should you buy right off the gate you probably want to you know write off this anvil but I would say hold the phone on then if you had if you had to choose between this anvil and maybe just a piece of junk steel it's all welded and cobbled together I would go with this handful and the reason why I would do that is because it's important to be able to follow along in a classroom like setting an instructor I'm working on an anvil that has a proper horn has a proper Hardy hole has a proper Perl hole as proper edges like I'm doing things on it a proper anvil that it's meant for professional grade use right if you pick out something and you've got a block of steel and it doesn't have those edges it doesn't have stuff you know it doesn't have a hardy hole it doesn't have or you've got to go cut stuff off in the fight it's going to be a different experience following along projects online you know it won't translate as much you know I can't communicate to you why having doing certain blows are what they are because you're not working on that you're working on a sledgehammer stuck in the dirt somewhere that's okay that's what you have to do that's fine but to have something that is shaped like an anvil that has all the features of an anvil will help you get better acquainted with all the different facets of an anvil and be able to work so I wouldn't necessarily write this off now if it's a toss-up in my mind a toss-up between this anvil and this anvil go for this anvil no doubt in my mind absolutely for sure get this animal this animal is the much better option for you if you're on the fence between these two it's really not worth the discount that you're paying for this 55 pounder I would spring the extra cash no matter what it was costing to probably grab this anvil up so with that being said let's do a little ball bearing drop test I said I was going to do the side by side comparison and some testing we're gonna go ahead and drop it on here this is not a great conclusive test I've got some other rigging that's gonna show a proper ball bearing test here soon but you guys can see holding it up this does have rebound so it's cast iron but it does have rebound but at the same point it's leaving a lot of dents now this ball bearing it's quick thing to note the ball bearing that I'm using is a 10 18 ball bearing so it is made from 1018 carbon steel just so you know so basically mild steel if you got like a 50 to 100 ball bearing it's harder it might dent surfaces even if they are harder surfaces so keep that in mind so here we go so you guys seen that one not a whole lot of ring and just a little bit of rebound over here again not a lot of ring but a lot more rebound we'll just let that lay over there so now you guys didn't see a little bit of a difference again this is cast iron this is cast steel both companies websites I'll go ahead and throw this out here while we're talking about these two both companies websites lists these as cast iron anvils some listings will say cast steel other ones will say cast iron these all say cast iron which is good it's true it's cast iron it is not cast steel this over here however is said to be cast iron some people say cast steel some people say forged steel this is not a drop forged item this is a cast item so no matter what they say it's a cast steel anvil they say cast iron it's Castile if they say it's been drop forged it is not drop forged they're just using that in their metadata to try to get more views and clicks it is a cast steel anvil so let's put that to rest so that's kind of an FAQ there for you again I would use if you're basing it just upon rebound this is where I say the rebound rebound test is just kind of ludicrous this had rebound even know it's cast iron it and just book you know suck up all your energy so you'll be able to hammer on this it's just a softer surface so it is going to dent and distort as you use it so you know it might be better for non-ferrous materials copper silver brass bronze things like that might work better on this anvil of course you can get the same amount done here but if that's what you're into this might make a great laughs anvil something that you're sitting at and doing silver work or copper work or demonstrations or shows also another good use for this animal is just for beginner so you got a buddy that once come over and swing has some hot steel and you don't want him hitting your nicer anvil that you do all your work on give him give him the slightly less hard and 'fl to work on he can work on that one you can work on this one again and you kind of get two prices for maybe the price of one animal that you have to buy for just one really good supreme quality animal so that's it that's kind of where I want to leave this video those are my initial thoughts I went ahead and cut a separate block if you have noticed for this I'm going to do a lot of different comparison testing for these anvils and keep everything as uniform as possible so everything from the mounting to the block that's sitting on things of that nature so we can do these different comparison tests as we go along and you guys can get a visual demonstration of which one's better this one here you guys have seen people for done anvils I don't need a forge on this anvil for you guys to just see hey he's forging on an anvil it's gonna be what it is the quality and on it is good it's a pretty decent shape and Ville keep in mind about the bondo on the horn if I have mentioned that to you again just keep in mind when you grind the horn you're probably gonna run into some bondo and some pitting and things like that whereas where this one you have a lot less dress-up work so I hope that helps you make your decision on which anvil you should get I hope that that kind of review on both these anvils have been helpful to you if you haven't seen the whole video playlist on this that'll be linked all you guys have got to do is just go over there and check it out there'll be a bunch of videos surrounding this anvil for the entire year 2020 and also if you've made it to this far in the video this is where I'll tell you about the giveaway we're doing weird throughout the whole year of 2020 we will be giving away one of these sixty-six pound anvils not this one in particular as this one's staying in my shop but we are buying them from the manufacturer and shipping them straight to you or to that lucky winner that wins and all you have to do is be a part of our live streams that we do once a month so you're gonna want to hit that sub bribe button and hit that Bell and said it for all notifications to get notified when we post otherwise you'll miss the live stream and that is one of the requirements you have to be a part of the live stream in order to take and when one of these anvils so we're gonna be doing that all of 2020 I hope you'll join us I hope you'll help celebrate 2020 with us and the year of the anvil that we're calling it so without further ado god bless each and every last one of you and we will catch you on the next one thank you for watching this video

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Length: 16min 20sec (980 seconds)

Published: Sat Feb 15 2020