40k Lore, The War For Armageddon, 2nd Ork Invasion, The Numbers,

[Music] greetings and salutations friends and welcome back to more lore about the war for armageddon last time we looked at the opening moves and the void war now however the imperial navy has been scattered in space and the orcs are in orbit above the planet of armageddon before they arrived however there were several weeks of frantic activity down on the planet the titan legions were roused from their slumber and deployed around the cities or into rapid response forces that would trawl the massive hive to hive roadways and finally forces representing more than 20 astati's chapters scattered themselves across the planet's more hostile environments where they could not only use said environment to their benefit but the orcs would be unable to levy their full numbers against the adepters astartes several formations of space marines were also dispersed within the rapid response forces and within the hive cities while some remained in orbit although the vast majority of the strategic reserves that were to be deployed from orbit would be arriving in further reinforcements as it was deemed that the adaptive societies were too valuable to be held back the general consensus was that considering the sheer size of the orc horde the imperium could not afford to hold anything back at this point there was also a rather drastic change in leadership as mentioned in the last episode one of the last shuttles to get to armageddon was carrying with it the legendary commissar sebastian yarick he was brought before the military conclave of armageddon where kamisayarik presented his plans and visions for the coming war he made such a fine argument that general kuro the de facto leader of the military council offered to step down and allow kamisayarik to take up the role of overall governor of the armageddon system for the duration of the crisis the commissar to everyone's great delight accepted the offer and would therefore be the de facto overlord of the armageddon system until the orcs had been defeated but what tools did the commissar have to actually accomplish this it's time we went over the various forces available to commission when it comes to defending the planet of armageddon and it is quite the varied a lot of defenders armageddon itself has of course provided several regiments with both ash wastes militia jungle fighters the infamous orc hunters and of course the steel legion along with armageddon hive militia regiments that were created after the first war these were considerably more regulated and disciplined than the ones created during the first orc invasion but they were still in all the essentiality militia regiments they were essentially civilians that were called up occasionally to undergo a little bit of practice here and there they were certainly a hell of a lot better than the militia regiments organized during the first war seeing as they were literally just civilians at least these guys have some basic training in how to operate a last gun but their capabilities are taking on the orcs in the open would be at best doubtful however when it comes to simply manning defensive fortifications basically sitting in a bunker and firing at anything green that happens to pop up they were pretty serviceable troops and of course the steel legion itself we have talked about at length previously but a couple of these formations might sound new like for example the armageddon jungle fighters or the orc hunters both of these were established after the first war the jungle fighters is a specialized regiment normally these were shipped off-world in huge numbers seeing as they were specialized in well jungle fighting unsurprisingly and were in great demand across various planets of the imperium the orc hunters however were always stationed on armageddon they were five regiments of imperial guard troops that were specifically dedicated to hunting down the feral orcs that it still infested the jungles of armageddon as such they had gotten very very good at fighting orcs and fighting alongside the steel legion we have regiments from cadia from krieg we have elysian drop troopers we have meridian iron guard we have sevilla chem dogs and even several regiments of ab human militia all in all we know that there were a little over 200 regular imperial guard regiments present on armageddon as mentioned they came from many different sources and as such they had very very different levels of organization for example the steel legion were all mechanized formations while as the death corps of krieg would be considerably more focused on infantry artillery and heavy weapons while the minervan tank legion would as the name suggest be almost entirely focused on a heavily armored vehicle with the light mechanized support units we also have nine batteries of specialized heavy artillery regiments in the form of the semtexian bombardiers all of these have very very different organizations and it's very hard to determine precise numbers of tanks contra to infantry so rather than i will be giving you a general estimate in addition to the imperial guard forces we also had 120 regiments of hive defense militia do bear in mind that these numbers do not bear in mind the ash wastes militias as they were considered far more specialized troops and were not despite their name considered to be militia troops so much as local guides and experts and speaking of specialists the defenders of armageddon could also call upon 18 companies of tempestus scions also known as stormtroopers these highly specialized and elite companies were often formed up into rapid response formations inside of the hives and used to counterassault any large enemy forces that had broken through the outer defenses in the later stages of the war they were also utilized in the roles that they were originally intended for as infiltration specialists and shock troops but what does all of this mean in the numbers well the 200 imperial guard regiments are likely to be made up of somewhere between three to four million men do bear in mind once again that this is a rough estimate as we cannot be entirely sure about the organizational structure of many of these regiments for example we do know that a death core of krieg regiment would almost certainly be considerably larger than your average steel legion regiment on the other hand we also know that one of the tank legions would be considerably smaller in total manpower than for example the steel legion we also know that the imperium is fond of organizing their militia regiments into considerably larger formation than the imperial guard forces due to the very simple fact that generally speaking one imperial guardsman will be worth at least two militia members as such the 120 regiments of hive militia can be estimated to be around about the 4 million mark as well and finally the stormtroopers we know that imperial guard stormtroopers are organized into regiments these regiments are considerably larger than the imperial guard counterparts however they are usually not deployed as full regimental formations but as here in individual companies we also know that these individual companies are usually larger than those found in individual imperial guard regiments as such we can probably assume somewhere between two to five thousand men per company giving us a total of thirty six to ninety thousand specialists and finally from specialists to chaff we have the various other formations that were organized during the war these are not really militia troops they are not really defense forces at all these are simply the various combatants that have organized into ad hoc military detachment as needs demanded for example the dock workers of healthstreet were organized into combat squads where each squad quote unquote was given one veteran officer to lead them preferably a stormtrooper if at all possible if not than just some random imperial guardsmen these units were then thrown pellamell at the orcs in a desperate attempt to halt the ingress into the hive usually with gargantuan casualties and as for numbers for these guys not the faintest bloody clue it could be anywhere from a few hundred thousand to a few billion seeing as they were essentially made up of various civilians armed with anything and everything that could come to hand last weapons are the projectile's weapons if they were lucky otherwise simple wrenches or blunt objects it would in fact not be entirely incorrect to simply envision this particular category as massive herds of civilians pushed into the path of the orcs in the desperate hope that they might actually slow them down all in all armageddon had the slightly in excess of 8 million regular troops to defend it along with an unknown number of irregular formations that were created during the war itself but as we have talked about previously armageddon was a very very important system and so the imperial guard did not have to hold it alone there were several forces located on armageddon that were not under imperial guard ege commissiorics command this obviously included the various forces of the adeptus astartes the forces of the inquisition the adeptus mechanicus the ecclesiaki the adapters are bytes departmental munitorium officio assassinorum officio sabatorum and finally the templars psychologists and since you are of course watching an arch warhammer video we will also be going over those forces in detail and we will of course start with the emperor's angels of death themselves the adapters astartes multiple chapters sent either part of their forces or indeed the entire chapter to armageddon we will be starting by listing them alphabetically angels of fire seven companies angels of redemption four companies angels of vigilance six companies angels poor fear eight companies the black dragons nine companies and god must the inquisition have had one hell of a task keeping those under wraps black templars three crusades blood angels one company the entirety of the celebrants chapter the entirety of the celestial lions chapter the entirety of the exorcists chapter flesh tears five companies immortal hearts one company iron champions seven companies marines malevolent two companies the mortar factors entire chapter deployed along with the omega marines also deployed in full chapter strength the raptors five companies red scorpions one company the electors fully deployed their entire chapter salamanders six companies the silver skulls seven companies sons of gilman six companies space wolves five great companies storm giants five companies storm lords two brotherhoods white scars three brotherhoods and the widow makers one company out of all of these the only ones we don't have any hard data on are the widow makers and the immortal hearts neither their colour schematics or any history is properly recorded in imperial data banks the ones we do know about however are the black dragons i'm really surprised that they were deployed on a planet as populous as armageddon for those who don't know the black dragons are these handsome fellows they are mutated astartes from the cursed founding they're actually one of my favorites because they're awesome they've got these bony growths protruding both from their heads and their arms and they use these as melee weapons they are in the most literal sense of the term mutants the inquisition has at several points attempted to uh well find some reason to wipe the off the map but actually turns out they're really really good at what they do and as far as anyone has been able to find out they are entirely loyal but still you can imagine putting these guys near the civilian population even though they might not maul the out of them you think that the civilians might go mommy mommy why does that spaceman have claws and that could potentially lead to some rather inconvenient questions being asked anyways the topic on the black dragon is going to have to wait for another video which will be out another six or seven years probably moving swiftly along from that inconvenient fact this means that there was a lot of space marines on armageddon in fact 146 companies or company equivalents in addition to that we have five space wolf great companies and three black templar crusades and this is important because neither of those two technical chapters actually abide by the rules of the codex astartes the spacewolf great companies can range in size from a couple hundred to a few thousands which means that we're not entirely sure how many space wolves were possibly on armageddon the same case is for the black templars crusades they generally speaking try to keep their numbers round about a thousand to be you know chapter approved in a very very very technical manner but generally speaking they fail miserably and they also don't count their initiates their neophytes as space marines which allows these crusades to be far far bigger than anything the codex societies would normally allow but first let's get into the numbers that we do know so on armageddon we have the forces of 18 standard codex abiding chapters more or less codex abiding anyways totaling 146 companies which with 100 estarties per company of course gives us a total of 14 600 estates now again do bear in mind this is assuming that all of the compliments were at their full strength which is unlikely but since we have no real estimates of how many of these companies were under strength or over strength or indeed which brought neophytes along to replace casualties etc etc we're just going to go over the number 14 600 as a rough approximation but what then about the space walls and their great companies well this is where gets a little bit complicated generally speaking it is safe to assume that a great company will be larger than the codex study's approved company size from what we know from examples they'll be around 100 to 250 brothers and occasionally much more than that there is also a much higher degree of variety within the squads for example the neophytes of the space wolves are usually organized into so-called blood claw squads which will contain 15 marines rather than the usual 10 but by the time they are elevated up the ranks to for example long claws they might be down to 10. so even if we have the exact number of squads that does not necessarily mean that we have the accurate number of marines since the space walls do not actually reinforce their squads every time a packmate is lost the squad is permanently reduced by one until finally assuming he survives the last living pack member will be known as a lone wolf however we do have a pretty good idea of the size of one of these great companies the first great company at the time of the armageddon conflict it was said to contain around about 220 estates so if we take that as a rough estimate and do bear in mind this is probably one of the roughest estimates because the space wolves are rather secretive about their organization we end up with about 1 100 space wolves and then of course there's the three black templar crusades oh my oh my where to even begin with this one first and foremost the black templars are utterly convinced that they are doing the emperor's bidding and that no puny little terran bureaucrat could ever tell them anything and that papa smurf definitely has got nothing to teach them and as such they pretty much out and out ignore the codex astartes to pretty much every single goddamn extent each crusade force is responsible for recruiting its own neophytes and replenishing its own ranks and there is very little if any control over the total size of the black templars rumors has it that the chapter might be as large as 6 000 fully fledged battle brothers and as if that was not enough the black templars have a charming little habit of taking one poor little neophyte under their wing so each battle brother has himself a little mascot and he tries to teach that mascot how to not die in a brutal and unforgiving universe said mascot is expected to learn from his master and fetch him various items of convenience like for example his prayer beads or whatever else he might want and again preferably not end up as a steaming puddle of blood on the floor eventually the neophyte will then be elevated to the full rank of battle brother now in most codex compliant formations the scouts or the neophytes would be considered in the total number usually making up the 10th company or in some cases making up specialists but they would usually count towards the total of 1 000. for the black templars they give no such shits whatsoever meaning that if the number 6000 is correct there's at least another 6 000 neophytes along for the ride meaning that the total chapter's strength would be closer to 12 000. as a bit of context to that number it is presumed that the original legionese astartes numbered somewhere around the lines of ten thousand studies at their inception so this is a pretty goddamn large formation of space marines however this does precisely dick to tell us how large the average crusade is and indeed i have not been able to find any real indications of an average size and considering that each crusade will be stepping up or decelerating its recruitment based upon its current needs including hiding from the inquisition needs it's virtually impossible to really come up with an average what we can know is that there will be at least a hundred battle brothers strong because that is the number we got in the couple of novels however that number could also be considerably larger so for the purpose of this video we will be assuming roughly space wolf great company size which might be massively misleading but for the lack of a better metric we will be assuming between 100 to 250 battle brothers which would leave the total at somewhere between 300 to 750 and in all the honesty that's probably a damn conservative estimate on the other hand the crusades forces would be relatively unlikely to be bringing in large forces you're fairly unlikely to be seeing much more than a thousand astartes in any given scenario which involves the forces of the inquisition which armageddon most definitively does because those damn pointy-hatted emperor bothers have been digging into the black templars for a very very long time trying to figure out if they're codex compliant or not and so bringing much more than a thousand battle brothers into a battle with the inquisition would probably be unwise on the other hand the black templars would not hesitate for even a second to explodey any inquisitor that happened upon their secrets so i wouldn't put it entirely beyond the realms of possibility this of course all leaves us with an estimated total of sixteen thousand four hundred and fifty adeptus astartes a very very considerable force a rough equivalent to one and a half chapters of legionese astartes during the great crusade of course though they have the numbers they would not have the overall effect of the legion's astartes formations since these various chapters will of course all be commanded separately with very little interplay rather than large-scale overreaching objectives basically the various chapters will not be talking to each other particularly much they might be agreeing upon a general strategy but when it comes to the execution of individual attacks tactics or smaller strategic objectives the various chapters or indeed the various companies in many cases will almost entirely be making their own decision-making completely and utterly autonomously from the greater adapters to start his forces presumably under the command of lord commander dante and of course entirely separately from kamisayarik the venerable commissioner might at best suggest objectives for the adeptus astartes and considering his reputation they might even listen but he is not silly enough to think that he could possibly order the adapted societies around and interestingly enough we have a wide variety of chapters of very very differing dispositions which did indeed lead to some friction for example the black templars view the civilian population of the imperium as little more than chaff to be expended in vast quantities if it serves a greater strategic purpose on the other hand you have the salamanders who consider the protection of that very same civilian population to be of the utmost important once you put these two chapters next to each other well interesting situations are bound to be created but of course once again it does not stop with the forces of the adepted societies and the imperial guard several other imperial organizations were also present upon the plant of armageddon and we'll be covering those now starting with the adeptus mechanicus and their main contribution came in the form of seven titan legions some full some partial starting with legio crucius a demi legion leggio ignatum a full legion lego individual atom a full legion legio magnum a quarto legion legio metallica now a demi allegion after the last catastrophe during the first war leggio tempesto a full legion and finally leggio victorum a full legion as for total numbers once again there is definitely a fair bit of variation but generally speaking you can assume that a full legion will number somewhere in the vicinity of 60 machines of various sizes all the way down from warhounds to imperators although only the biggest and oldest of legions will have imperators in their arsenal and one further note on the numbers many of these legions were very very old many of them did indeed take part in the horus heresy during the horus heirs the titan legions were also considerably larger for example in the case of legio tempesto it was said to have numbered around 120 titans as a demi legion which means that at full strength it would potentially have reached 240 god machines by the way another note of legio tempesto lego tempesto has been written up as a chaos legion however it turns out that at least parts of the legion stayed loyal during the heresy which is why it was present on armageddon so no you are not incorrect if you thought hmm lego tempesto i'm pretty sure i've seen some night gaunts titans of that particular mark and yes you probably have and you've probably seen them in service to the nightlords but don't fret the ones in armageddon are definitely loyalists at the very least there are no reports of night lords wandering around their legs anyways in this case a full legion is assumed to have 60 a demi legion aeg a half legion 30 and the one quarto legion 15 giving us a grand total of 315 titans of various sizes and of course the titan legions are supported by skittari a formations now this was before the release of the adaptive mechanicus codex so they are known here as a regiments rather than cohorts so we will assume that they are roughly the size of an imperial guard regiments there were 14 regiments of skittari on armageddon supporting the titan legions which would give us a total of some 280 thousand skitari the adaptus mechanicus was also sending four centurio ordinatus to operate the ordinances machine on armageddon however well they never got there in time and the black templars took care of that particular issue all by themselves so they never really played much of a part in the battle and the mechanicus was not the only priesthood that was represented on the battlefields of armageddon the ecclesiaki had two convents located on the planet the first was occupied by the order of the argent shroud which fielded seven companies of sisters of battle totaling some 700 sisters the second was the order of our motted lady with three companies totaling some 300 sisters the ignaciaki also provided assistance to the people of armageddon both in the form of the sisters hospital and of course the linguistical order who interpreted the various vox communications sent out by the orcs generally speaking orcs are not very good at cryptology and even their jamming efforts essentially consist of every single orc they can get their hands on screaming into a vox set and trying to blurt out every single frequency not the most efficient usage of information warfare ever but it does have its own little charm i suppose and finally we'll be looking at some of the more unorganized or smaller forces the inquisition provided some military aid in the form of a few hereticus and ordozinus agents along with two space marine death watch kill teams that were primarily occupied with dealing with the outer systems and specifically saint jones dock then we have the non-military forces of the adeptus arbeitis organized into 20 armageddon precincts these were police officers in audio technicality although a fair bit more heavily armed than what we might be considering police officers these days they would be fully armed and armored with weapons comparable to those of the imperial guard although more heavily focused on slug weapons like auto guns and shotguns they would also have access to some limited amounts of armored vehicles like for example rhinos or the riot suppression vehicles we also see representatives for a couple branches of the officio the officio assassination sent several agents to armageddon although the numbers are unfortunately classified and the officio sabatorum sent 34 agents these agents were meant to infiltrate the captured population basically assuming the orcs were to take over a hive city for example the agents would infiltrate said hive city and organized acts of sabotage against the orcs this had been used to great success during the first orc invasion where some hives had of course surrendered and one had in fact surrendered without a fight and naturally seeing as armageddon is a heavily industrialized planet many of these factories were taken over by the orcs and then put to work using their new human slaves programs of sabotage carried out inside of these factories proved to be extremely effective being able to sabotage much of the orcs vehicles and weaponry long before they managed to get to the battlefield rendering them inoperable in many cases or at the very least with severely decreased abilities in many others and the simple idea was that if all of that was achieved by civilians imagine what a few official operatives could organize as for the assassina elements well i'd reckon their job would be pretty god damn obvious one shoot gazgul two shoot cars ghoul three stab car school and four if you should come across the overlord herman from straub murder him too because you see apparently there were rumors that all the baldy had joined up with the orcs and the imperium was not best pleased with any of this and finally we have a couple of non-combative forces the departmental monatorium sent two engineer calls and one pioneer core and finally 15 disruption squads from the templars psychologies these are essentially propaganda units they are both there to bolster imperial resistance and to gather any intelligence that they can both about the orcs and about the civilian population because as history has proven humans tend to break under pressure and start doing remarkably silly like joining chaos or the orcs for example and speaking of those lovely public green-skinned huggybots it's time we go over their forces too jesus christ if you thought there was a lot of approximations in the imperial part you just wait for the goddamn orcs so what do we know well we know that gazcool had gotten himself some new friends this was not only gazgul leading his orcs to armageddon this time he had reached out a giant metallic claw in friendship in orky fashion which means headbutting them into the ground to a few other major warlords the despot gazgrim the great fiend gorsnik magrush and the great slayer grimskull these warlows of course had tons of other smaller warlords underneath them again but these were the primary leaders of the great orc wag they also went in separate directions once they actually hit the plant of armageddon because generally speaking if you've got two war bosses in close proximity and they are of roughly equal size well they won't be working together for very long let's just put it like that gazigul had managed to put himself in a position as the overlord but that was very much so based on keeping the other three at a healthy distance as for the general size of these various hordes well we do have some numbers for example we note that the horde had something along the lines of 106 gargants 290 battle fortresses 1 180 mobs and 127 speed cult mobs but these numbers of course in and of themselves don't mean much in fact they might even be quite misleading so the orcs only have 106 gargants doesn't that mean that they're outnumbered by more than three to one by the imperial titans well there's a small problem with that number 106 guardians means that the orcs essentially have 106 vehicles of equivalent power to that of a warlord titan the orcs do their gargants a little bit differently they don't split them into classifications because they're orcs and they hate me like the imperium does a gargant could be anything from the firepower of a warhound titan all the way up to a goddamn imperator they also have many smaller versions but are not listed here like stompers and super stompers which would be more along the lines of warhounds or even super heavy tanks considering that these were thought of important enough by the orcs to actually be listed and counted they're probably around warlord titan level we also know that there was at least one gargant present on armageddon that was able to defeat an imperator-class titan so the number is a little bit misleading generally speaking you're going to want two to three warhounds to take on one gargant in many cases one warlord will be able to take on a gargant and an imperator would in many cases be able to take on several carcans but each gargant would normally also be escorted by many smaller stompers and smaller versions of the gargants in and of themselves so comparing this number directly to that of imperial titans will probably be quite misleading think of this as guardians representing probably warlord strength possibly even imperator as for the 290 battle fortresses once again they are rather varied both in their specialization and of course in their armament but generally speaking they will be the rough equivalent of an imperial guard super heavy tank we don't have any exact numbers of super heavy tanks on armageddon but we do know that there is at least one dedicated super heavy tank regiment we also know that many of the mechanized and armoured formations will also have a small number of super heavy tanks so the numbers is probably somewhere between 50 to a couple hundred and then we get into some real speculation territory how large is one orc mob well i don't have the faintest clue to be honest with you in a this size one mob could be anything from 10 orcs to a million orcs there's really absolutely nothing even remotely in the ways of standardization here generally speaking one mob will be commanded by one particularly large and vicious knob although he is usually not the only knob in the mob there can in fact be hundreds of knobs in one mob this is not referring to the tabletop unit of mob in which case they would only be about 20 orcs per mob we do know that there are several dozen warlords within each of the main warlords entourage each of them is capable of commanding several mobs gazgul alone commands over 400 mobs but let's make an effort to at least give them a rough estimate shall we so let's see considering the massive nature of the fleet that brought them here considering that this is one of the largest orc wags to have ever hit the imperium we're probably looking at very very large individual formations led by very very powerful individual orcs because again remember the orcs are very much so a might makes right society basically ghazial magurok thraka is the baddest orc to have wandered his way into the imperium in the last few thousand years and in return his sheer size and bombastic nature will increase the growth of those nearby him the bigger the main war boss the bigger the knobs the bigger the knobs the bigger the boys the bigger the boys the bigger the horde and the bigger of the production of orcs since they'll be releasing more spores into the atmosphere which in turn creates more orcs so with all of that in mind considering the fact that this is one of the largest orc logs to have hit the imperium considering it is led by one of the biggest and baddest war bosses to have ever farted his way out into existence and considering the sheer size of the goddamn orc fleet we can probably assume that at the very least each individual mob will be equaled to an imperial guard regiment and to be honest that is a very very conservative estimate in all you likelihood we're looking at somewhere along the lines of three times the size of your average regiment but for the sake of this video we'll air on the side of caution so what does that leave us with well 20 000 orcs per mob and 1180 mobs that gives us just a little below 23 and a half million orcs and again that is a relatively conservative estimate you could probably triple that and still be within a fairly safe margin of error and then if we add in the 127 mobs of speed cults with roughly the same estimate which is probably a bit closer since they will be a little bit smaller than normal orc mobs we end up with an additional 2.5 million orcs which leaves us with a grand total of some 26 million orcs and once again just to really hammer home the point yes this would be a very conservative estimate it would not surprise me at all if gosgul's horde stretched into the billion mark and of course those numbers do not take into account the orcs that were dumped on the other system's planets without god's girl's permission all due likelihood but still nevertheless you can probably slap on an extra couple million right there and then of course there's all of the orcs that were staying back on the spacecrafts to man them and to board the enemy's ships in furious space battles that were to continue for many months yet all in all the total number of orcs in the armageddon system would probably stretch well beyond the billion mark and additionally remember that while this was all going on gas girl was also launching diversionary attacks all across the larger sector involving massive assaults upon dozens of other solar systems this all means that the total size of gazal's horde was probably much much larger than the forces sent to armageddon although they can be assumed to be at the very least his primary force probably made up of the biggest and the baddest orcs under his command oh and by the way this is why i both love and hate doing statistical stuff on the orcs on one hand it allows me to do everything relatively quickly because their numbers have to be pretty much estimated in a very very general sense on the other hand some green skinned little gretchen out there with a deep passioned hatred for humans and me in particular decides that writing down very specific numbers would be a great thing to do like we know exactly how many mobs there are oh that's lovely how big is a mob not the faintest clue right there sir right then you sycophantic little piece of green snot how could you be any less useful but oh well i do think i've come to a generally alright estimate although even now i'm thinking i'm being a little bit too conservative i could also speculate very roughly about the amount of vehicles the orc army would have seeing as this is under the command of gazgul magurok thraka one of the daddies of greenskin blitzkrieg or deep operations to be entirely technical here we're probably looking at a pretty goddamn high percentage so we're probably looking at vehicles stretching well and truly into the millions upon millions range but again since we have virtually no accurate statistics on that and even in the case of speed cults okay a truck could carry anywhere from two to twenty orcs as such even just giving a rough estimate of the total number of orcs gives us virtually no indication on the total number of actual machines hell even if we were going to go with a rough estimate of looted battle tanks we could still have practically no idea of how many orcs were inside as the general human number of anywhere between three to five would be again completely and utterly pointless for the orcs and finally let's have a real quick force estimate so we're looking at something along the lines of four million imperial guardsmen supported by another four million hive militia with an unknown number of hive citizens civilians gangers dock workers etc of dubious military quality some 36 to 90 odd thousand veterans specialists and crack troops in the form of the tempestus scions a fairly damn good solid selection of titans some 300 a good adaptus mechanic is contingent of 14 regiments of skittari a decent force of adepta sororitas with some 1 100 sisters of battle and of course the space marines themselves which would number in somewhere along the lines of 16 450 estates a pretty goddamn solid fighting force that but still disgustingly outnumbered by the conservative estimate of some 26 million orcs and as i mentioned that number could easily stretch into a billion it is important however to bear in mind that the total civilian population of armageddon is absolutely massive it could be as high as 500 billion human beings however these are practically worthless as fighters they will be massively outclassed by even the smallest orc boy when it comes to muscles and brutality they will have absolutely nothing in the way of training the vast majority of them something like 99 will be virtually unarmed except for blunt melee weapons and even i would probably be a luxury not to mention the simple fact of course that even armageddon could not possibly supply such a force with the ammunition necessary even if the weapons were available as such the civilians as a fighting force can almost entirely be discounted at least the various dock workers militias and gangers would have access to at the very least the absolute basics in the form of armament probably sidearms and small arms but something at the very least and even then they were expected to die at a rate of 10 to 1 for every single orc the statistics for the unarmed civilian population including of course of women and children well let's just say that i would be a whole lot worse not to mention of course the rather obvious problem with humans they tend to not want to get brutally murdered as such even if you could potentially hurt the hundreds of billions of armageddon civilians towards the orcs the overwhelming majority of them would quite naturally turn around and run the away in all the probability they would inflict heavier casualties upon the imperial guard regiments sent to herd them forwards than the orcs but of course at the end of the day all of these are just mere numbers the really interesting thing will be to see how these numbers fare when violently smushed up against each other and that is what we're going to be looking at in next week's video where we're going to be really getting into the ground war and it is a doozy this is one of the most detailed events that we have in 40k when it comes to large-scale confrontation with lots of cool little backstories snippets and interesting pieces of lore the only one that could possibly be considered to be any larger than this is probably the horus heresy itself that glorious masterpiece of backstory or the infamous siege of rocks which i'll also get to at some point in the next 20 odd years until next time i have been arch thank you very much watching and i do hope to see you all again soon have a good day [Music] [Applause] [Music] you

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Keywords: Arch, 40k, War, Orks, imperial guard, Space marines, Titans, gargants, Astartes, Chapters, Armageddon, Yarrick

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Length: 46min 35sec (2795 seconds)

Published: Fri Jun 16 2017