‘Covert Action’ By U.S. To Assist Ukraine Could Be In Play Says Naveed Jamali

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1st rule of covert action: Don't talk about covert action.

👍︎︎ 151 👤︎︎ u/Astralmareets 📅︎︎ Mar 05 2022 🗫︎ replies

Not very covert if it's on MSNBC lol

👍︎︎ 65 👤︎︎ u/Cymotha84 📅︎︎ Mar 05 2022 🗫︎ replies

They are openly giving assistance, so it's kinda expected that there is some covert help too.

👍︎︎ 29 👤︎︎ u/DOOM_INTENSIFIES 📅︎︎ Mar 05 2022 🗫︎ replies

They already benefit from the intelligence network of the whole NATO, no fog of war for Zelensky

👍︎︎ 33 👤︎︎ u/megagipaul 📅︎︎ Mar 05 2022 🗫︎ replies

Western private military contractors are already there

His Instagram vids supposedly show end result of an ambush on the russians

https://instagram.com/raoulduke_69?utm_medium=copy_link

Damn ig removed it. Charred Russian bodies apparently and blown up vehicles

👍︎︎ 45 👤︎︎ u/Chemical-Horse 📅︎︎ Mar 05 2022 🗫︎ replies

Of course it is this isn’t even controversial. But it’s not Seal team six on the ground it’s CIA “civilians” “helping”.

👍︎︎ 37 👤︎︎ u/trytobanmelol 📅︎︎ Mar 05 2022 🗫︎ replies

Somebody needs to tell MSNBC to go back to reporting on the Bachelor and mind their fucking business.

👍︎︎ 24 👤︎︎ u/duderanchjuvenilia 📅︎︎ Mar 05 2022 🗫︎ replies

Um so why is MSNBC blasting it all over the place?

US needs to be careful not to fall into their own trap where all their movements and plans are put on blast.

👍︎︎ 22 👤︎︎ u/operationmegaton 📅︎︎ Mar 05 2022 🗫︎ replies

Not very covert no more

👍︎︎ 7 👤︎︎ u/logg1215 📅︎︎ Mar 05 2022 🗫︎ replies
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>> THANK YOU. HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND. I'LL PICK IT UP FROM HERE. I'M TIFFANY CROSS IN FOR JOY REID TONIGHT. WE BEGIN IN UKRAINE WHERE THE SITUATION ON THE GROUND IS INCREASINGLY DIRE AS RUSSIAN FORCES CONTINUE THEIR INVASION FROM THE NORTH, EAST AND SOUTH. THIS COMES AS CIVILIAN DEATHS CONTINUE TO MOUNT FROM RUSSIAN SELLING MULTI LAUNCH ROCKET SYSTEMS AND AIR STRIKES. UKRAINEIANS HAVE BEEN UNDER ASSAULT FOR DAYS AS RUSSIA CONTINUES TO BOMB THE CITY KNOCKING OUT POWER, WATER, AND HEATING SUPPLIES. NOW, THIS PREVENTS RESIDENTS FROM FLEEING. ONE OFFICIAL SAID THE CITY IS ON THE BRINK OF HUMANITARIAN DISASTER. WITH THE SOUTHERN CITY OF KHEROSN UNDER ATTACK, ACCORDING THE A SENIOR U.S. DEFENSE THE A SENIOR U.S. DEFENSE OFFICIAL 92% OF RUSSIA'S PROSTAGEPRO PRESTAGED MILITARY IS IN UKRAINE. THE MASSIVE ARMORED COLUMN THREATENING KYIV REMAINS STALLED. REPORTS THAT THE 40 MILE LONG CONVEY HAS BEEN HALTED BY UKRAINIAN FORCES. TAKE A LISTEN. >> WE ALSO HAVE INDICATIONS THAT THE UKRAINIANS HAVE STRUCK THE CONVEY ELSEWHERE AND ON THEIR OWN -- ON VEHICLES. WE DO BELIEVE THAT THE ACTIONS BY THE UKRAINIANS HAVE IN FACT STALLED THAT CONVOY AND CERTAINLY SLOWED IT DOWN, STOPPED IT IN SOME PLACES BUT WE ALSO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S ALSO OF A PIECE OF RUSSIAN CHALLENGES THAT THEY'VE HAD JUST IN TERMS OF THEIR OWN PHYSICAL GROUND MOVEMENT, SUSTAINMENT, LOGISTICS. THEY'RE RUNNING OUT OF FUEL AND FOOD FOR THEIR SOLDIERS. >> THE TALKS WITH UKRAINE HAVE NOT MOVED FORWARD. VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS IS SCHEDULED TO TRAVEL TO POLAND AND ROMANIA NEXT WEEK. MEANWHILE RUSSIAN TROOPS SEIZED, SEIZED A NUCLEAR POWER BRANT IN UKRAINE. THIS IS THE LARGEST IN EUROPE. THIS IS AFTER A MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT ATTACK SET PART OF THE PLANT ON FIRE AND IMMEDIATELY RAISED GLOBAL FEARS OF A NUCLEAR CATASTROPHE. THE U.N. HELD AN EMERGENCY MEETING TO DISCUSS THE ATTACK AND CONDEMN THE ESCALATION. LINDA THOMAS GREENFIELD WARNED THE WORLD NARROWLY, NARROWLY AVERTED A MAJOR DISASTER. TAKE A LISTEN. >> BY THE GRACE OF GOD, THE WORLD NARROWLY AVERTED A NUCLEAR CATASTROPHE LAST NIGHT. WE ALL WAITED TO EXHALE AS WE WATCHED THE HORRIFIC SITUATION UNFOLD IN REALTIME. >> DURING THE MEETING, UKRAINE'S AMBASSADOR URGED FOR A BAN ON ALL FLIGHTS OVER UKRAINIAN AIR SPACE BUT SECRETARY OF STATE ANTONY BLINKEN PUSHED BACK NOTING A NO FLY ZONE COULD LEAD TO A FULL FLEDGED WAR IN EUROPE. IN A LATE NIGHT ADDRESS VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY VISIBLY ANGRY SLAMMED NATO FOR REFUSING THE NO FLY ZONE SAYING ALL THE PEOPLE WHO DIE FROM THIS DAY FORWARD WILL ALSO DIE BECAUSE OF YOU. YOU HAVE TO SEE HIM TO UNDERSTAND THE ANGER. TAKE A LOOK. [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE]. >> MEANWHILE, NATO SECRETARY GENERAL CONFIRMED REPORTS THAT RUSSIA HAS DEPLOYED CLUSTER BOMBS. IN A STATEMENT G 7 FOREIGN MINISTERS RESPONDED SAYING THOSE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INDISCRIMINATE ASSAULTS ON INNOCENT CIVILIANS MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR WAR CRIMES. LET GET INTO IT. JOINING ME NOW, NBC NEWS CORRESPONDENT CAL PERRY IS LIVE IN LVIV UKRAINE. I WANT TO START WITH YOU, CAL. YOU'RE IN KYIV AND I WANT TO PAINT THE PICTURE FOR OUR VIEWERS OF WHAT WE'VE SEEN. THE SCENES COMING OUT OF UKRAINE ARE SCARY. THERE ARE SCENES THAT BLANKETED OUR SCREENS WITH SEVERE GAS TI CASUALTIES. THREE SCHOOLS WERE SHELLED. A NUCLEAR POWER PLANT UNDER CONTROL. PAINT THE SCENE FOR WHAT IT'S LIKE IN LVIV RIGHT NOW FOR OUR VIEWERS. >> WELL, LOOK, WHERE I AM IN THE WESTERN PART OF THE COUNTRY, THIS IS A CITY THAT'S DEALING WITH A REFUGEE CRISIS. A CITY THAT IS REFLECTIVE OF THE VIOLENCE THROUGH CROWDS OF PEOPLE LOST, CONFUSED, SHOCKED BY WHAT THEY'RE SEEING IN PLACES LIKE KYIV AND PLACES IN THE EASTERN PART OF THE COUNTRY AND IN THE EASTERN PART OF THE COUNTRY, AS YOU'VE LAID OUT, WE'RE SEEING RUSSIANS BE CHECKED OFF AND START SHELLING THEM INDISCRIMINATELY OR TARGETING CIVILIANS THAT ACCORDING TO THE U.S. STATE DEPARTMENT AND THIS IS A RUSSIAN TACTIC THAT WE'VE SEEN. IT'S SOMETHING PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY FEARED WAS COMING AND IT NOW SEEMS TO HAVE ARRIVED. WE SAW THIS IN CHECHNYA IN 2000 AND SYRIA A COUPLE YEARS AGO. WHEN YOU LISTEN TO THE PENTAGON BRIEFING AND WE HEAR THE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT RUSSIAN COLUMNS BEING BOGGED DOWN AND SUPPLY CHAINS BEING BOGGED DOWN AND HIT, THESE COLUMNS ARE AND HIT, THESE COLUMNS ARE SLOWING DOWN BUT NOT STOPPING. WE'RE SEEING THIS PLAY OUT. IT'S LEAVING PEOPLE HERE WONDERING IF KYIV IS GOING TO BE REMEMBERED LIKE ALEPPO AND YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER IN THIS PART OF THE COUNTRY WHERE I AM, MEN ARE DROPPING FAMILIES OFF AT THE BORDER AND RETURNING TO THE FIGHT, SOME OF THEM WITH NO MILITARY EXPERIENCE, SOME CIVILIANS NOT PART OF THIS MILITARY AND THAT IS WHO IS FIGHTING THIS WAR. NOT WANTING TO START A WIDER CONFLICT, THE REALITY IS WITHOUT CONFLICT, THE REALITY IS WITHOUT A NEW FLY ZONE, YOU HAVE SAY ZIL YIN -- CIVILIANS FIGHTING AGAINST THE RUSSIAN ARMY AND CIVILIANS WILL PAY THE HEAVIEST PRICE. >> I WANT TO ASK AND GET CLEAR >> I WANT TO ASK AND GET CLEAR FOR THE VIEWERS, HOW FAR IS THIS CONVEY FROM THE CAPITOL. >> Reporter: IT'S STILL 40 KILOMETERS FROM KYIV. IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COUNTRY FROM WHERE I AM. THAT'S SO UNNERVING FOR PEOPLE THAT FLED THE VIOLENCE IN THE EAST IS THEY COME TO A PLACE WHERE I'M IN LVIV SUPPOSED TO BE SAFE AND THE FALL BACK POSITION FOR CIVILIANS. THERE AREN'T ANY AIR STRIKES BUT AN INDICATION PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY WHO DIDN'T THINK THERE WOULD BE A WAR A WEEK AND A HALF AGO ARE TERRIFIED THE ENTIRE COUNTRY WILL BE ENGULFED IN VIOLENCE, TIFFANY. >> THAT'S QUITE A SCARY SCENE, CAL. I WANT TO BRING YOU IN, BEN,. WE'VE SEEN THE PROTESTS ALL ACROSS RUSSIA, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ARRESTED RISKING THEIR LIVES PROTESTING. PAINT THE SCENE WHAT IS HAPPENING THERE THIS EVENING. >> Reporter: HERE THE SITUATION IS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER IS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY BUT VERY MINIMAL. 0 ODESSA IS A CITY THAT HAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST PORTS IN THE COUNTRY AND THE THIRD LARGEST CITY IN THE NATION. WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR RUSSIA TO TAKE IS ECONOMICALLY, IF THEY CONTROL THE PORT PAY HAVE A HUGE CUTOFF FROM THE UKRAINE GOVERNMENT BUT IF THEY TAKE THE CITY, THEY CONTROL THE SOUTH OF THE COUNTRY BEING ABLE TO MOVE FORCES EASILY IN AND OUT OF THE WATER IS A BIG MOVE FOR THEM. ONE COULD ARGUE THAT ONE OF THE REASONS THEY PUSHED TO TAKE CRIMEA IN 2014 IS SIMILAR IN JUST BEING ABLE TO CONTROL THE SOUTH. NOW AS KHARKIV IS BEING BOMBED AND KYIV IS BEING ATTACKED SO REGULARLY, A PLACE LIKE ODESSA IS PREPARING. WHEN YOU WALK THROUGH THE STREETS AND TALK WITH PEOPLE, STILL CALM. PEOPLE ARE STILL GOING OUT, JUST TODAY I MET SOMEBODY WHO HAD JUST COME FROM THE DENTIST. THE DENTIST WAS STILL OPEN. BUT THERE IS AN UNDER CURRENT OF FEAR. THEY'RE SETTING UP HEDGEHOGS, WHICH ARE ANTI TANK DEFENSES AROUND THE CITY. THESE PEOPLE ARE VOLUNTEERS ARE ALL GOING TO THE BEACHES WHERE KIDS USED TO PLAY PACKING THESE SAND BAGS TO DISTRIBUTE AROUND THE CITY AT CHECK POINTS AND BUILDING UP DEPLOYMENTS TO DEFENSE. SO IT'S TENSE. YOU CAN FEEL SOON THESE PROBLEMS WILL START BUT FOR NOW, WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR THEM TO START, THERE IS A SENSE OF LIFE HAS TO GO ON AND THE PREPARATIONS HAVE TO CONTINUE. >> AS YOU WERE TALKING, OUR VIEWERS WERE ABLE TO SEE THE SCENES OF PEOPLE THERE PREPARING FOR AN I'MMPENDING BATTLE. STAY SAFE AND WE'LL CHECK BACK IN IF THERE IS ANY BREAKING NEWS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WANT TO BRING IN A "NEWS WEEK" EDITOR AND FORMER FBI DOUBLE AGENT AND AUTHOR OF "HOW TO CATCH A RUSSIAN SPY." VERY HAPPY TO HAVE YOU HERE THIS MORNING. THESE ARE VERY SCARY SCENES WE SEE COMING OUT OF UKRAINE. YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT THIS FROM PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY'S POINT FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE AND, YOU KNOW, HE'S VISIBLY ANGRY WITH NATO, AS YOU JUST SAW AND YOU UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE IT WAS TWO WEEKS AGO WHEN HE WAS STANDING ON THE WORLD STAGE SAYING HEY, I GOT 200,000 TROOPS AT MY BORDER AND THE WORLD NEEDS TO HELP. WHAT SHOULD WE BE DOING FOR UKRAINE NOW? BECAUSE I HAVE TO TELL YOU FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T WAKE UP AND READ EIGHT PAPERS BEFORE THE SUNRISE, IT LOOKS LIKE THE WORLD IS STANDING BY WATCHING AS WE WATCH PUTIN LAY WASTE TO THESE CITIES WHERE WOMEN AND CHILDREN AND FAMILIES LIVE. >> YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. IT'S A TERRIBLE SITUATION. IT'S ALREADY A HUMAN TRAGEDY UNFOLDING AND I THINK PRESIDENT BIDEN SPECIFICALLY IS TASKED WITH A REALLY ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TASK AND THAT IS TO HELP THE PEOPLE OF UKRAINE, TO SUPPORT PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY BUT ALSO TO KEEP THE U.S. AND FRANKLY, NATO OUT OF A WAR WITH RUSSIA. YOU KNOW, THIS IS A REAL CHALLENGE. WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT NO FLY ZONES, PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY ASKED THE U.S. AND NATO AND BOTH REFUSED. IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND IF WE SEND COMBAT TROOPS WHILE THEY'RE ON THE GROUND OR WITHIN THE AIR, THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN CONFLICT WITH RUSSIAN FORCES AND THAT IS UNDOUBTEDLY GOING TO LEAD TO ESCALATION OF WAR BETWEEN THE TWO COUNTRIES. WE CAN'T DO THAT. OUR QUESTION WHAT CAN BE DONE? THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE REPORTED ON QUITE A BIT. WE HAVE QUITE A STRONG FEELING THERE IS A GRAY AREA FOR COVERT ACTION. THAT IS TO SAY U.S. MILITARY, IF YOU HAD THE CIA TO HELP UKRAINE, NOT JUST WITH WEAPONS BUT TO DO THINGS THAT ALLOW FOR PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY AND THIS IS PERHAPS THE GREATEST AREA WHERE THE U.S. AND PERHAPS NATO AND OTHER FORCES CAN GET IN. LOOK, WE'VE SEEN THE UKRAINIANS USE TURKISH DRONES. YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT IS FLYING THE DRONES THERE ARE THINGS THAT
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Channel: MSNBC
Views: 1,518,416
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Keywords: Joy Reid, NATO, ukraine, russia, msnbc, us news, news
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Length: 11min 40sec (700 seconds)
Published: Fri Mar 04 2022
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