WWE2K20 - What Happened?

[Music] ladies and gentlemen boys and girls children of all ages the mountain muscles flophouse proudly brings to you the show that gets the room urmila cracking about the games that are lacking it's another episode of what happens and was only a matter of time before two K's nearly grapple based glitch fest made its way into our ring to rightly get booed by the many many fans who are familiar with WWE products [Applause] as you'd expect this is story that's about as nuanced than as deep as any storyline you'd see on the Monday night Raw's or the Friday Night Smackdown your $600 shirt and yank mr. Socko on because we're going to rewind a few to Jesus decades to probably tell the story of one of if not the biggest gaming disaster of 2019 WWE 2k 20 [Applause] it's 1999 the state of rustling video games is very very different I eat better there's things like choice there's no microtransactions loop boxes or rustlers locked behind 150 dollar paywalls it was the Golden Age the Attitude Era of wrestling games it literally was you see competition is good for business you had the a key engine for both WWF and WCW there were a claims attempts at making ECW a thing yeah even made a sudden but very brief runnin and at the very bottom there was nitro and thunder by inland productions [Applause] [Music] nope there was one more other outsider who went on to become the Big Dawg however and that was uke's who emphasized fast arcade action and stellar presentation which gave rise to the Smackdown series on the PlayStation 1 and for a time it was good until it wasn't when THQ eventually fell into what we'll call the troubles 2k games then picked up the WWE license because of course they did fans had hoped a new publisher would be the shot in the arm this series needed see yeah it didn't it didn't quite turn out that way in 2019 however things started to take a turn or swerve if you will in May Luke's senior vice president Hiromi ferrata made a rare announcement about the company's future specifically on their wrestling titles ferrata revealed they would be making a completely separate game from their WWE products and stated why they felt the need to do this having no competitor isn't healthy at all when we had competitors in the wrestling space we were determined not to lose and that was a good motivator for creating something great we are trying to launch a new wrestling game of course we will retain the WWE team but we are also aware that our creators are beginning to lose sight of their passion and confidence and becoming focused only on completing assigned tasks that's not the direction u k--'s wants to go in so in order to compensate we're going to start a new wrestling project less than three months later 2k were then announced that UQ's would no longer be helming this year's game which is only two months away from launch despite furada claiming they would be maintaining that WWE team so what the hell happened well Justin Lee / the director / writer of the road to Wrestlemania mode in Smackdown oh nine ten and eleven and a YouTube video dropped some drama bombs stating that problems with dukes went further back than most might realize mr. Lee / stated that THQ in their later years were apparently trying to transition away from uke's and attempted to find somebody else to pull on the sweaty WWE jocks you can see some evidence of this with THQ San Diego's all-stars as well as various other projects that were greenlit but ultimately canceled nothing really worked out in the end all stars failed to sell and there were very few studios with any experience in the genre available this was all exasperated by WB demanding yearly schedule for their games as they constantly need new product to boost their bottom line thus yuccas stayed where they were with tension slowly mounting between themselves wve and THQ justin leaper described UQ's as very hardworking sending examples of team members living in their offices for days at a time to get the job done but they obviously weren't perfect as they also attempted to publish WWE games in Japan without having a license or permission to do so with that in mind nukes his attitude towards the WV grind was pretty clear in the rest of ferrata statement right now looking at the market demands players are expecting something new every time you release a game and we feel like we haven't achieved what we really wanted to do for example in many cases we're still using old assets so we're not able to do some things in the way that we intended looking at it all together it seems completely reasonable for a company express some dissatisfaction with developing the same series for over 19 years but therefore in a statement from 2k in August as we've continued to invest in the WWE 2k franchise we've seen the visual concepts team display incredible passion talent and commitment to the future of the series we thank u k--'s for their years of partnership and are excited to see what the visual concepts team brings to the franchise moving forward 2k also put out a brief promotional trailer for the upcoming version of the game that would provide a glimpse into the future of what you can expect from visual concepts vision for the WWE 2k series which of course is a statement that is aged poorly this is what's going to give us confidence recognition success everything we've ever wanted your earth science notebook is gonna do all that no you kidding buried and booked into the ground left visual concepts in a super very not and viewable position there were low on time man power and experience and had to slap the game together with just a few months notice I mean sure they had been involved with the games for the last four years but even with that it couldn't have been a smooth transition Justin Lee / put it best in his video on how taking over a project like this with just a few months left is super messed up let's say you had an apartment for 20 years living in that same apartment and your landlord comes you and says you got to leave this apartment but leave all your stuff there and okay you you leave and he immediately brings somebody else in and says now you have to live in this apartment make it work and the new tenant is going well I don't know where the where's where's the key I don't know where how to unlock this door what light switch does what and that is what has happened with the tooth of W game series and the problem is that 2k wants you to pay the rent so I think by now we have a better understanding why Schick gotta be this way which way do I mean well so [Music] [Music] yeah let's just Swanton bomb right into it because of the shift of developmental responsibilities and release dates that absolutely cannot change it's pretty clear that everyone involved with WWE 2k 20 knew they'd be shipping an unfinished rushed buggy mess just about everything had and still has some sort of issue be it the creator wrestler game stability missing modes and features hair physics animations AI in just whatever the hell this is [Applause] footage of the game was delayed until just a few weeks before launch and we can see why like most big companies that have a shoddy product they're still willing to sell keeping footage out of the public eye until the last possible second and atactic and which not to lose those precious precious pre-orders which is a whole other thing we're not going to get into no I'm not doing it absolutely not doing what the thing with pre-orders is that the deluxe ignition would get you access to the game a few days in advance wait wait yeah you didn't think I meant to k20 no I meant to k-19 and and 2k 18 as well 2k 20 did not offer any option for anyone to play it any early to hopefully squash any inkling that something was amiss but these are WWE fans their natural state is assuming something is or will be a mess I'm gonna take that marker bring it to your grandmother's nursing home and cross out parts of her chart so when the nurse goes to give her turndown service she won't know to flip her over that's right I want to give your grandmother bed sores regardless just this one deviation in the yearly plan should have been enough of a red flag to let players know that this was gonna be rough year entrances are also an early indicator of the quality of what you should be expecting and things kicked off or rather kicked down with whoever this is supposed to be this looks like the mcdent to those versions of the rock I'm I'm sorry that's harsh Madame Tussaud you do incredible work regardless it's just staggering how the like the fifth WWE game on this generation of hardware could wind up looking like this well here's Dwayne and Mummy Returns look there's no difference who modeled this what was their name what's more damning about all of this is that entrances are put together with the strictest of guidelines and scrutiny as WWE needs to sign off and approve of every single one every single year and I guess this was acceptable what else did you get when you pre-ordered why the fiend of course won The WB's few bright spots but unlike say the last few years which locked desirable superstars behind pre-order tactics the Fein was not available at launch oh no you had you had to wait for the are you afraid of the dark DLC pack to drop first before you could access him this was handled differently than previous years where you've got the new hot wrestler as soon as you booted up the game and that DLC hasn't even dropped yet wait what it has oh okay sure if you didn't pre-order the game then you'd have to pony up another $15 for the Goosebumps pack as it is the only way to play with the fiend and his in humanoids wait okay it gets better if you bought the $130 collector's edition you'd snag a nifty plaque signed by either Ray Ray Kurt Angle or Adam edge Copeland well I mean you would if you weren't of the dozens of fans who took to Twitter to complain their plaques were missing said autographs one such fan contacted edge and said WB and 2k were ignoring his complaints and asked that the former rated-r superstar would be able to help and one of the few classy moves of this story edge replied lame seems like it happened to a few other people too somebody dropped the ball I'm filming a movie right now but when I get home I'll get a P o box everyone who didn't get one signed I'll follow you on here give you the address and you can send it to me to sign after this interaction 2k of course then decided to address all this with the same statement they've been issuing to any of the thousands of complaints people had please go to WWE 2k games 2k helped me and fill out a support ticket so we can get started on helping you if you're familiar with any major publisher like Bethesda a or Ubisoft you'll be equally familiar with the futile process that is support tickets next up are the numerous and just really weird changes at a mission span within 2k 20 such as the new control scheme it was apparently streamlined for new players here is that new control scheme and as it turns out many players and reviewers felt this to be clunkier than last year's title as it really didn't stream or line anything at all players were just getting used to the last control layout so why mess with it now apparently the only reason this was done was at 2k felt there needed to be some fundamental but surface level changes to signal in this useless era you know even if it made things worse create a belt is also missing this year for no particular reason and 2k promised it would be patched in later and of course as of the time of this writing it is not let's keep going the moment you hit on the EUL a screen upon booting up 2k 20 you know all this stuff you are now locked to that game via some type of digital blood ritual and you can now no longer go back to WWE 2k 19 to upload any custom images in any form this occurs even if you get the game refunded and removed 2k 20 from your library on Steam the only way around this is to make a new account and by the title a second time this is presumably one of the ways to k politely nudges players to stick with the new game and not go back to last year's edition this all culminated to a fever pitch when fix WBE 2k 20 started trending worldwide on Twitter one of the few times the wve would not want their brand to be seen so publicly all social media accounts for the game especially their Twitter were assaulted by of comments than manding answers or at least some type of statement 2k games now I'm a food of pleading with the crowd for for some kind of Saturday oh and AB arrived of pretzels now knocking to kick unconscious wow this is a this is a black day from wrestling video games rowers create a belt how come custom entrances were crashing and softlock in the game when are the patches coming so on and so forth well the launch day came and went without a peep from 2k and instead they used their Twitter to promote an online tournament with every subsequent tweet getting hammered by the angry mob we were just embarrassed in front of the entire school and currently 672 people on the Internet answers finally came after 4 days of silence where 2k said in a plainly worded statement we are listening closely to the feedback that's been shared regarding wb2k 20 and aware of the concern some players are reporting we're working hard to investigate these concerns and address them as necessary we expect to have an initial patch ready in the next two weeks with others to follow stay tuned to WP game social media channels for more than that I intentionally skip something in this story however saving it for the main event prior to launch 2k had made it known that its latest WB title would arrive with something most fans expected a massive day one patch that never came now odds are that when 2k and visual concepts got together to take a good hard honest look at the enormity of the work that was left to do and things to fix it's safe to assume they decided to roll everything into an even massive ear patch and to release it later hence their earlier statement so they cancelled the day one patch and turned it into the day 14 patch what's more is that nothing much has seemingly changed and the following very vague notes to Kaitlyn improvements across the board that players are still reporting many of these things are very not fixed at all and in some cases or even worse custom entrances and custom arenas are still causing crashes the physics are still very WWE 2k 20 ish create a belt is still not there and the game's visuals have not been improved but tables have been added to single matches so you know yay if you're one of the Dudley's okay here's the thing it's not impossible for games to turn themselves around after a series of huge embarrassing your balls are being exposed on stream mistakes been like no man's sky or Final Fantasy 14 products that are built to engage the player for years sports games especially in this generation are often some of the most disposable entertainment in the gaming industry with that year's entry often invalidating in the last so 2k 20 is gonna be abandoned faster than save I don't know Kofi's match against Brock [Applause] and with the less than stellar feedback on the most recent patch things are not off to a good start and rebuilding the trust with fans now this is just crazy and and you know I'm not a big CEO man that I think now would be a good time to offer your fan base some apology DLC maybe make the fiend free for everyone to smooth things over that alright can you afford that 2k I think you can because make no mistake unless they managed to turn this around which they are not on track to do this might damage the brand for years at least and forever at the most also let's not forget the poor some [ __ ] at visual concepts that most likely been gaining visits from the captain for the last six months or more and will probably be doing so for a good while longer all because Vince and the WWE top brass refused to give video games the time they need to be video games as for UQ's they've made no statements so far regarding rustling projects since the summer and while they've been busy with other titles like the latest Earth Defense Force it's unclear when they'll be returning to the ring but let's hope that when they do the game they'll make will be elite posts match interference Justin Lee / chimes and once again in a video from earlier this week raised sights from a source that things are imploding over at visual concepts a good percentage of employees a number apparently reaching the double digits have straight-up quit the company and are looking for work elsewhere in addition he also says not to expect any more patches of any real significance outside the most recent one issued on November 21st and that any hope to salvage the game beyond that has been dropped finally he theorizes that this whole debacle has been so catastrophic for all parties involved that it might put the fate of a 2k 21 at risk as well as a deal between the WWE and the publisher might be on shaky ground while none of this has been even remotely confirmed as 2k ax has not issued any statement regarding it most likely because they're busy defending their social media accounts from hackers I almost expect some statement is going to be released in the new year so in summary shit's [ __ ] so if you're aware of any other ginormous gobbledygook errs of gaming disaster punch it up in the comments below or dropkick your way over to the Smackdown o-tar the flophouse VIP patreon to officially vote on what we take into the squared circle next see you next time jab bronies and thanks for watching [Music] [Music]

Channel: Matt McMuscles

Views: 1,262,016

Keywords: WWE2K20, 2K Games, Visual Concepts, Yukes, Wrestling Video Games, WWF, WWE, Video Game Disasters, What Happened?, Wha Happun, Video Game Documentaries, Matt McMuscles

Id: m5-LN_LHU2I

Length: 22min 21sec (1341 seconds)

Published: Sat Nov 30 2019