WORST One Piece Dads Tier List

all right everybody what's going on mortgage is the worst father I mean yeah I don't even I didn't know I'm supposed to have a kid you guys just tell me that I do silver bar wait silver bum silver bum says we gonna get gas lit no no gas lighting no gas lighting today um yeah I I think I just realized I I think it's just better to be honest I was late because I was helping an old lady cross the street for the fifth time so it feels good to just tell the truth you know it feels good to just be upfront and straightforward more slow and old mortgage give us a rant no guys we have an agenda for the stream today and it's a very important one all right so as we all know today is Father's day which is why we are going to be looking through the best dads of One Piece all right uh wait one sec I think I'm behind one super real quick let's check what I'm missing so uh yeah I figured that today would just be a good well-timed you know Hallmark holiday sort of a day to uh yeah to just take a look through uh some of the best and worst dads of One Piece more worse than best because that's just you know that's just the way one piece is not too many great dads straight tracker said I know it ain't anime or Manga but I want to ask have you watched Arcane oh my God I thought we were done with Arcane questions here was the plan well let me finish this question if so what did you think I didn't see it I have no thoughts also worst dad has to be guy from Moana who sold his fam that guy oh it was his name like Oingo Boingo or something um I forget that guy was uh yeah um I don't know if he makes the tier list but you know it's uh it's a it's a definitely in the running like if we count all the all the fathers like uh like all the random ass fathers like you know I'm sure there's some really bad ones like Side characters or something like that if we really think about it let's talk about the main characters um yeah I think like I think that um what is it the uh the Arcane TV show I know it's really good I said once upon a time that if enough people bother me to watch it I will eventually watch it but then I kind of was able to kind of weather the storm and just wait it out and then eventually enough people forgot about Arcane then they stopped talking about it but here you are stride choco bringing it up again and after the dresser Arcane again no I haven't seen it I haven't seen it kid clip two cases that haircut ain't it more I think it's a good haircut I like this haircut foreign Jr the um what do you call the uh the realities I would never name my kid mortgage Jr if I had a kid um what would I realistically name him what would I realistically name them so if it was a boy who's a girl um that's too hard that's too much thought it's like would I first of all would I name them an Indian name or like an American name that's its own like discussion I don't know it's like a its own whole discussion Francesco akinforces how's your tendon mortgage my achilles tendon uh mainly in my left uh left ankle it's fine um it's like it's it's fine like it just takes just it's not something that's gonna heal immediately this is something I've had for over a year so it's slowly getting better but it's not like uh it's not like uh oh I'm gonna show up one week and be like my achilles is totally fine that's just not the way it works all right um Buster says kaido better be an S are we talking about for worst year dads or best dads I don't know let's take a look let's take a look at uh this tier list that we got oh tala Jahan thanks for being a yonko to your member for four months heading out the country no internet okay for a while all right although Oda plays it fluid with where Zoro is between Sanji and Luffy when it gets serious it's Luffy greater greater than yeah um I mean at the end of any Arc it's well it I don't know it depends it's just like okay you know what's funny kilometers Matt thanks for the big donation but you forgot to type your your comment you shouldn't have to donate again so just just comment whatever um and we'll all try and catch it all right thanks kilometers man appreciate it ju says do another AI stream but with Chad gbt Mork I was thinking about doing that yeah I might do one with Chad gbt you know what you know what um let me make a quick note of that that will definitely do that uh coming up see the thing is that I was like do we um do we do another AI stream or is it already played out because we did it once but at the same time Chad gbt for those of you don't know is like way more advanced than whatever we used before so it's like it wouldn't be the same thing it'd be something much more interesting so you know what that's all I really needed uh suggestion to do chat gbt that's all the encouragement I need I think we'll roll with it re-reaches Lock's daughter in Dungeon for years not a bad dad I mean yeah a lot of people give him props for calling Yamato a boy when she wanted to be called a boy so you know you can weigh these things um side by side whatever you value more all right oh [ __ ] man Hazard Gibson says off topic but a good old Iraqi versus Oda topic came up last screen but I wasn't last stream but I wasn't around can I ask a question why didn't why would you use why would you use the super to ask to to ask if you can ask a question just ask the question all right yeah what's kilometers Matt's comment what is it Tyler Johanna asked how Sakura going I beat Sakura a good while back I think a few weeks back now two three weeks back what day is it today uh let me see what was I doing okay so last weekend uh I think like yeah like two weekends back not this weekend the weekend not the weekend before I guess three weekends back I beat Sakura so it's been a little bit I really liked Sakura um attilia says guys I'm gonna go eat BRB more to the revery Rumble okay okay let me be upfront about the reverie Rumble so I showed up to the referee Rumble first of all let's get the stream likes to 100. all right let's get the stream likes to 100 once we get there we can uh what do you call get to whatever um yeah the uh the reverie Rumble I showed up to that and um uh I don't have a working switch so I already told like I wasn't in the bracket or anything like that so it's not like first of all it's not like I ruined Roger's bracket by coming in and leaving I wasn't in the bracket in the first place I said I'll drop into just talk and commentate I dropped in it's a large group chat of a bunch of people basically so it's kind of like we're all commentating over a match I was like all right they all seem good they seem like they got it I can probably go get food basically as soon as I saw the setup at first I was like okay um if Roger needs people to talk during this I'll be there but as soon as I saw the setup which is that there's a bunch of people for those of you don't know Rogers base hosted a smash ultimate tournament between some one-piece YouTubers this last Sunday so yesterday right I joined in um realized after a bit that he's got enough people commentating because everyone that wasn't playing was commentating then I was like okay I'm probably good to just go get food because that's what I wanted to do and then I just met up with some people to eat food as you do and then I just ended up doing stuff for the rest of the day so the reverie Rumble just went straight out of my mind as soon as I realized that okay it doesn't really matter because everybody's already here anybody like there's a dozen people in this chat already talking it doesn't matter so I think that's okay and I'm gonna be honest smash ultimate it's kind of boring to it's kind of boring to commentate over like it's not melee exactly so after a little bit I was just like what am I gonna do talk about I don't know ultimate for three hours this doesn't seem very fun parking Zoro thinks I appreciate it Hazard Gibson says if you could like write like a mangaka what ability could you think to create a weird scene like in one piece JoJo example walking on rain slash riding a bike in the ocean what ability could you think to create a weird scene so you're asking what ability I would create or what weird scene you would have uh that's something you got to think on right um if it's like stands he thinks of some really really bad wacky bizarre stance if it's just like a general scene again that's something that you got to think on so sorry that's not a fun answer but that's just something like you know you're asking me to be I don't know like thinking up with like creative story ideas on the spot flame Emperor says mortgage conquered Sakura before you conquer the Wana video Yeah Sakura was a lot of fun I think I like uh I was thinking basically I because Sakura I thought was not it was really hard for me and I probably took longer to beat it than the average person um but by the end of it I was like here's two things I realized about Sakura at the end of it right so as I'm finishing it I'm going to see like I'm watching videos and stuff because I really really love the game the game is so much fun uh the combat is really fun so I'm watching like other people you know their videos on fighting characters and or fighting bosses and stuff like that um and just like reviewing other people and stuff like that and I realized like yeah it was really hard for me but most other people cheat while they're playing not cheat cheat but like okay the point of Sakura is that you're supposed to be able to like Play Just sword to sword combat and you're supposed to get really good at that a lot of people use random [ __ ] like fireworks and [ __ ] like that like you can attach firecrackers that make fights way easier a lot of people use lots of really weird cheesy strategies to get Bad Bosses and stuff so I was just like okay I didn't realize that I'm like why are these people even playing what's the point of playing a hard game if you just want to cheese your way through it why not just pick up an easier game then so I felt I don't know now I feel more confident picking up like something like I don't know like a dark souls or an Alden ring or something like that because at the end of it it was really challenging but but given enough time you overcome each Challenge and so now I'm just like well I want another game like that so you know the tatsumaki says mortgage loves hating in general I just said I loved Sakura wait what did I say Kayla Brown says mortgage loves hating on Ultimate no no no no ultimate's a good game I think ultimate's a good sorry I legitimate okay okay let me backtrack real quick I like watching ultimate uh I do actually watch ultimate sometimes if there's like melee ultimate in the same bracket or something like same uh tournament or something like that I'll watch ultimate and like um you know I'm I I support certain ultimate players I think ultimate can be hyped to watch the thing is the uh that came out wrong okay because I think ultimate's a good game I definitely think it's a good game um it's more so what I meant like okay I'm gonna get bored watching ultimate it's because I guess low level ultimate which is what we are watching it there's I I just don't think it's fun to watch like it's just not a game that I think is that fun to watch when players are like just normal average players does that make sense I I just don't think it is because uh you know I I like mail is a very Dynamic game I feel like there's a lot more that you can do with individual characters and there's just a lot more you know a lot more Tech a lot more makeshift Combos and things like that that can happen that are on the Fly improvised so I feel like even at a lower level you can watch two average or like you know above average melee players play and like it's fun to watch and commentate for me watching two average level ultimate players just play It's not that fun I don't feel like there's that much to it especially because there's no real story lines or anything like that right like these are just random YouTubers don't know each other we're just playing each other um there's just not much to it there's not much to talk about in my opinion that's just it like if I'm watching MK Leia versus Fargo of course that's exciting I consider that exciting there's like a lot of matchup I mean yeah a lot of history behind these two players really good storylines and stuff like that I would say this I'd say ultimate has better storylines to watch than melee at the moment so in some ways I'm more excited for the ultimate section of tournaments than melee I haven't really been keeping up with either of them that much but like you know if I'm tuning in I do find Ultimate hype to watch um you know as a tournament game on on Twitch when it's you know in certain contexts stabilio says have you played high on life um no Jacob Buskey says l morge gatekeeping no noobish wizard says you're probably watching speed runs at Mortal no no no speed runs is obviously totally different what I'm saying is like I would watch videos basically like I would go back and watch videos of people being like um here's how you can beat this you know this boss or something like that like boss guide type things basically and then like they'd do firecrackers and stuff and you'd see throughout the comments yeah like people saying that yeah they use firecrackers or I'd go and see like on the second or subreddit or stuff like that like oh what did you think of this boss and this boss and some people be like oh that boss is easy like the corrupted Monk's not so bad if you just use firecrackers and I'm just like well yeah [ __ ] why would you use fire what's the point of that you know that's I don't have the firecracker prosthetic in my version of Sakura like I never picked it up I just you just use the sword like you're supposed to that's the fun of the game how can you feel like you beat ishin if you used firecrackers right isn't the fun of fighting issue that you're fighting you know weapon to weapon even though he cheats and uses a gun mine are spoilers um isn't that just the point sweet baby drips is your Shinobi not a samurai you're supposed to use the whole bag of tricks to win all right found the dude that used to use firecrackers all right look yes you are technically a Shinobi you're technically a Shinobi but the fun of the game is the sword combat the reason they included stuff and shifted it from Samurai to Shinobi is two reasons because that way they could make the stealth a more integrated part of the game because stealth wouldn't make as much sense if you're a samurai right so stealth and travel it works better by reconfiguring who you are and like reclassifying as like okay or Shinobi even though like 95 of the game you're playing more like a samurai right and then you get the fire like you get the Prosthetics [ __ ] because in honorable samurai would never use that stuff but it's like well some players they need to firecracker their way to Victory and use umbrellas I'm just like why do people use them Brett like isn't the Hope like you're supposed to deflect and [ __ ] and then umbrellas just do the deflecting for you I don't get it stabilia says oh no we covered this kilometers Matt says you're one of my Inspirations please Mutual me okay that's uh no I don't do that but thank you I appreciate it Brandon King says this game is open for interpretation you can beat the bosses any way you want I obviously you're allowed to beat the bosses anyway you want I'm just like why are you even playing the game then though like what's the point of playing a game that's all about sword combat and getting good at a certain style of Sword combat and getting the feel of like sword clashing against sword like that's the entire point of Sakura if you just want to play Firework simulator what's the point what's the point just play a different game then all right uninspired says is low-level melee play better than ultimate I don't even know what that means like more fun to watch I don't know um again I'd say that like um ultimate is probably more fun to watch right now than melee at the top level because I think the story lines are better um so it's like is low-level melee play better than ultimate I don't know what that means like what do you mean all right move on to the tier list let's do it oh yeah I was supposed to be looking it up [Music] um Ali H thanks for being a member for yonko team member for three months it's Morgan time your mortgage would you consider doing Kingdom Arc views as you're reading like totally not Mark's one piece series also please do a 1074 rev rev review I will do a 1074 review um yeah um Kingdom Arc review that's an interesting idea I hadn't thought about that I'm gonna put that into like a quick note just in case uh that's something that uh you know could be a good idea for for uh mangamoj Caleb Brown says if you like sword combat so much why are you playing video games about sword when you could just go fight monsters with the sword yourself that's true good point good point good point you got me there why do people always ask me if I've seen rrr no I haven't seen RR just because I'm Indian I haven't seen RR stream Elden ring okay I'm not gonna lie Elder ring seems much more intimidating to me because um um it's the I'm scared of like it just seems so complicated in terms of uh I like the idea of Sakura because it's a game that you can only it's set you can only really do one thing you know what I mean like it keeps you on a fairly direct track you don't have to Branch too much in terms of you get skill points and stuff which you kind of kind of put into stuff that's somewhat useful but again you can beat the full game without the Prosthetics and stuff like that for the most part obviously you need them for a few things but um yeah you just it's mostly about you know you you funneled to the next mini boss then boss it's hard but eventually you get good enough and you beat it right Elden ring seems very intimidating to me because I'm just like [ __ ] like how am I supposed to know you have to put time into stats and like leveling certain stats I'm like how am I supposed to know what to level how am I supposed to know what the good weapons are you know how am I supposed to know what level I'm supposed to be when I'm fighting a boss or something like that um it just seems like really really difficult like I'm I don't know it seems very intimidating to me but I want to try it um try that or dark souls or something like that just to see to me I feel like that's gonna be really really difficult um yeah I just don't get it I'm like so the bosses in Elden ring and dark souls and those types of games I know they're really really difficult so then when you run into one how are you supposed to know when you're at the right level that you should be able to beat them versus you're supposed to go grind something else and then how do you know what stats you're supposed to be putting your efforts into and stuff like that I did like some quick Reddit churches of like oh should I like you're supposed to how do you know what the right build is and then people say stupid [ __ ] like oh you kind of just do whatever you want man you can the game is beautiful because you could level whatever you want and uh make it your own thing I'm like that's not what I want to hear I want someone to tell me what to do I don't want to put all my efforts into something like I don't know like charm and then I find out that I can't kill anything with charm um you know what I mean like isn't that isn't that a problem Andre I know he says trial and error yeah but like to me there's a difference between trial and error like again I don't have a lot of benchmarks for things right so I'm going to keep referencing Sakura because that's what I played for me trial and error in that is like okay I'm playing against the boss try something that doesn't work over time you learn its patterns through a lot of trial and error and then eventually you win right to me that's that's kind of that's my mentality of okay I like that sort of trial and error trial and error where it's like okay if I'm losing the boss over and over but then I'm supposed to also learn its patterns but then also like learn if I leveled the right thing or not or have the right weapon or not and then go search for a new weapon and then go level a certain stat and then that doesn't work I don't know it just seems very very uh intimidating I don't know seems very intimidating right MPA slicks is like I said earlier the open world concept doesn't fare well with the souls bar in gameplay but I'm saying like even if I played like just Dark Souls or something like that and it's linear um what do I like how do I know okay RC warns to stop talking about games yeah we can stop talking about games let's go let's go dead since his man is scared of Freedom number one Luffy antagonist that's the last thing I'll talk about in games yeah I think that um there's a difference between like you know what you want in the story versus um you know in a game and it's partly I just haven't played that many single player video games so I've just uh uh you know the idea of a really big open world is still intimidating versus if I just started playing it maybe I like it a lot more you know okay it's kind of like one piece is a thousand chapters so some people are like ah that seems too long for me but then they started they're like oh you know what I really liked it okay are we gonna do this as best dads or worst dads I feel like yeah we gotta do best ads right so let me screen share let me screen share for you hold on so this is what we're working with and uh I don't know who some of these characters are I don't know who barrows is I don't know who Chile is he has um I don't know why some of these characters who's Moyle has anyone ever heard of Moyle does anyone know who moral is loud waffles is Elden ring and souls you can focus on the stats of your starting class how do I pick a starting class bloodborne might be closer to Sakura for you though yeah I looked at bloodborne I heard that it's like the best of all those games at least a lot of people feel that way and um it's only on PS5 so all I have is a PC Tyler John says Elden Ring World progression is very intuitive because of how the map is laid out and Visually designed have faith in yourself I know idiots who beat it thanks man I appreciate that X Drake's dad oh that's X Drake's dad all right I'm just gonna all right let's just move some of these guys towards the bottom so that we don't have to think about them right uh yeah let's just not think about some of these characters let's stick to characters that we definitely know who is this who is this all right I don't know some of these characters off the top like some of them seem familiar like who's Lasky who's qg who's wait I know Milo that's uh from dresrosa no we're staking the characters that we all know all right no one cares about Milo no one cares about qg no one cares about Lasky um oron must be is this sabo's dead hold on hold on one piece oron the maternal Unk who what dude am I crazy oh wait yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah dub this is like an important part of Robin's backstory I forgot the people like her adopted we're not adopted like parents that were taking care of her initially but we're gonna move them away Outlook 3 is that um okay makes sense Sabo but not interested yeah we're gonna stick to main characters here main characters mean notable characters right tsukiyaki Fisher tiger Tom stuff like that Toto yasop zeph Kuma yeah I think everybody here just doesn't count let's just say doesn't count and move them all right kawamatsu's a Dad how's kalamatsu a dad are they saying he's like hiori's Dad nah I'd kamatsu doesn't count he watched her for like not that long from what I remember I don't think he counts as a dad do they have denjero dangero makes more sense as as her dad you know what I mean dangerous reason for most of her life um uh okay yeah so that's from Robin's backstory uh uh so they don't have danger robots but they had kawamatsu that doesn't make any sense that doesn't make any sense okay okay I think let's roll with this let's roll with this all right I like this setup he took kamatsu took care of her for seven years that's quite a bit it's quite a bit hmm oh Phantom great fire saying the oh here's a little key here's a little key uh it seems like biological fathers have their names in black and then uh adoptive fathers have their names in blue that's a good distinction but we're not going to make that distinction all right uh Whitebeard is a father just as much as you know Shanks is a father all right we don't make that distinction here child JR says part of fun is finding out and in Elden ring you can almost always change the statue level since early but overall level your HP and one or two offensive stats oh okay that's good to know okay that's what people mean by so I can just juggle it around doesn't that make it so easy that's awesome okay that's great so I can just be like I want to change my magic stats to power stats and I'll be good right that makes it easy if I can do that I'll be happy I'm gonna load up on HP I know that for sure give me as much HP as I can get all right Oren it's just yeah I just don't feel like it like let's let's stick to cool characters right Oren doesn't make the cut all right I think that this is a good list Eugene tense is weevil's Dad technically Izzy though I don't know where I fall on the Clone debate on that I don't think cloning I don't think that makes you Dad that's not me I don't think that's yeah I just I'm good with you know I think there's a difference between adoption and cloning sanguine says why doesn't Saba's dad count it's just uh okay fine we can throw in Saba's Dad we can throw in Saba's dead fine we can keep Saba's dead and you know what he can be the very first in D tier although easy indeed here because he was he a bad dad was he plotting to kill Sabo I forget no there was something there's some some problem he was gonna do something really bad right right someone remind me what zabo's Dad was gonna do someone reminded me what zabo's Dad was gonna do because he was a good dad to steli he was a good dad to Stelly yeah who's to say blue evil isn't his real biological son maybe maybe but like uh like it's up in the air at the moment right we wait we wait and we see no no I need I need the context don't make me look up the One Piece Wiki what was Saba's uh dad gonna do to him vipriani so he says make a tear below D and call it judge tear the thing is how do we evaluate dads that are like really good to the majority of their kids and then just really mean to one kid because you could argue that judge was 80 a good dad because he was nice to ichigi niji yonji and Raju he was only mean to Sanji right so you could argue he's even if you give him zero points for Sanji he's 80 a good dad right or is that not how Parenthood should work is it kind of like you gotta you gotta be batting a hundred to be a good parent is that how it works he did put sanji's head in an iron bar in an iron mask and put him in a prison cell so that was pretty bad it probably does severely swing the pendulum pretty hard okay he forced Saba all right so here's what Outlook 3 made him do goat God 340 says he forced Sabo to read books all right was he gonna get him killed was was he gonna do anything bad Sun Moon says bro he genetically modified them yeah but um is that that I mean like he genetically modified them but like they're all you know doing pretty well including Sanji at this I mean what I mean by that is like he gave them superpowers is that like a really bad thing to do like if you okay think back to this all right so you grow up you have superpowers right you are stronger faster basically invulnerable you can't be hurt by bullets um are you kind of like man my parents are the worst for giving me these abilities I don't know he adopted steli to replace Sabo in case Sabo wasn't a good son a fail safety fuel okay that's not the worst that belongs in seat here because he was still willing to see with Sai he was kind of like a wait and see mentality that is also an interesting thing to me with steli which is that like um with the way nobility and everything like that works works in one piece and um the importance of having certain blood it's kind of weird that they're just willing to adopt a kid like steli and be like hey he can be a noble now um unless I'm missing something about steli John 6 7 8 says can you include the dad next to oron in the tier list also say his name no I can't do that I don't I can't do it claro says he removed their emotions that's true that's true how yeah that's true that's true all right you know what judge is going firmly in seat here firmly in seat here he's not detier because he did you know he still careful like 80 of his kids he took away their emotions but he gave them superpowers he was mean to Sanji he's very mean to Sanji but he kind of reconciled with Sanji towards the end but in a really you know you know in a really bad way James the mack says he threatened to kill Saba's friends I mean sabo's friends are some nasty ass kids it's literally the son of the world's worst criminal and then the son of the other world's worst criminal so it's kind of like um you know they're from he's you can understand where he's coming from right you can understand where he's coming from it's kind of like hey who's who are you hanging out think about it like this I'm think about it like this who are you hanging out with these days son and they're like oh I'm hanging out with Osama Bin Laden's kid um maybe threatening to kill that kid would probably be really far but you would understand why as a parent he'd be very concerned right um so it's kind of it's just it's a complicated situation right you can understand why as a parent you'd be like hey I don't want you hanging out with Osama Bin Laden's kids in fact I will use violence if necessary to separate you from that situation um Noob wizard says no no you guys have to understand you guys have to understand it's from the one piece characters perspective right um from their perspective from their perspective it's like these are some bad kids James and Max says he didn't know that no I'm just saying the general idea which is that he would be confirmed in his suspicions he's like hey son I feel like you're hanging out with a bad crowd right you're hanging out with a bad crowd he is correct the sun is hanging out with in the context of One Piece world basically you know the worst kids the the worst crowd of kids imaginable right he's correct in the assumption that his son's friends are maybe not coming from the most Savory of places right because his son's friends are the son of the world's worst terrorist and then pretty much a guy you could kind of view is also like at least the world's worst most wanted criminal back when he was alive and stuff like that right so now obviously dragon and Roger are good characters I'm just saying from the dad's perspective his intuition is correct that there's something not so like you wouldn't want your son hanging out with some kids when you feel like those kids may not be the best influence for your son and he's ultimately right because you know what does saba go and do because he hangs around with these kids so much well Saba goes and becomes a terrorist right in fact his name is on a big banner and he's being called the world's biggest terrorist nowadays right is not the whole thing that happened at the like the dad's worst fears were confirmed right now obviously from our perspective as the reader we know all the things that are like look the one piece world's very flawed it's good to be your terrorist in the one piece world go terrorists the one piece world needs more terrorists right let's get some more of those going right but I'm just saying from the dad's perspective he is correct in that the kids that his son is hanging out with are not a good influence and that they're steering him towards a certain life and that life does ultimately turn out to be becoming the world's biggest terrorist that's all I'm saying you know loud waffle says all Saba's dad knew was that they were poor but I'm saying that the intuitions that he had about them were in fact correct which was I don't want you hanging out with this group of kids because it probably sets you on a worse path than being you know raised like uh as a proper Noble guess what it's like literally the worst path possible that his dad could imagine that's basically it right Green Princess says that clip is gonna be taken out of context all right I don't think I said anything false I'm just like the dad is literally correct in his beliefs that the sons if the dad thinks that the son's kids that the son's friends that he's hanging out with are a bad influence that will set him on a certain path such as becoming a really big criminal or terrorist he is a hundred percent correct all he knew is that they're poor but his intuition tells them hey I don't think you should be hanging out with these kids you should be inside your house reading and stuff let me tell you something in the real world not in the one piece World wanting your kid to stay inside and read and not hang out with criminals right which is what Luffy and Sab Ace were at that point in time that's not like a bad thing you know what I mean all right buggy glances Iron Mask no emotions abuse yes but love towards four out of five of his children gave them superpowers including the one he didn't like sanji's you know he could say whatever he wants about Judge nowadays but he sure wasn't complaining about those superpowers while he was kicking Queen's ass um so it balances out he does not belong in D all right wait Turner says those children weren't the reason they became a criminal that the nobility did ah is that true is naps does your take on sabba's dad is reasonable but judge is absolutely off the face of this planet wrong okay all I'm saying is how about we get to the end of this and see uh and see how many fathers are worse I can name one dad that's worse than judge right now let's see um [ __ ] are there any dads worse than judge maybe not maybe judge is the worst that it gets is Judge the worst that it gets judge is probably the worst that it gets okay we might have to revise some things we might have to revise some things these are all good Dads I think we got to revise some things unless we're digging into this group of characters right here uh yeah this group of characters right here I think that hmm you know what fine fine we'll put judge in D we'll put judge and D we'll put judging d yeah judge is literally the worst dad my bad Joey 217 sasanji did come play in LML no he complained but then he used it like he was complaining about uh you know will I turn into a emotionless blah blah blah blah but then at the end of the day he did use it and he got to keep his emotions so it's like you know sanji's not too upset about it now I'm sure Morgan is way worse than judge is Morgan worse than judge Morgan actually was no Morgan is not worse than judge Morgan is also a seat here because Morgan actually used to give his son everything he wanted he was just mean to his son for you know when it really came when it really came down to it you know what I mean Carl says he literally disowned him that's true wait judge dis I forgot judge disowned him he told him to get out but he's not as bad as I think kaido's a little worse right because kaido tried to kill Yamato so I feel like that's not quite as bad right what judge did kaido tried to kill Yamato so kaido's got to be a little bit worse than judge right I don't think judge tried to kill Sanji and a propriada says judge beat the good dad allegations yeah William odomosu says sanji's like when Asian parents force you to learn the piano as a kid and you hate it but then as an adult you use it to get girls yeah that's basically that's that's it Morgan's literally almost killed him but was he trying to kill him he just threatened him right I don't remember the cover story a hundred percent he took him as hostage loud waffle says didn't judge star of Sanji or something no kaido did that to Yamato maybe judge also did that but I think that uh kaido also gave Yamato a purpose that's true ju okay so it's different here's the difference so judge thought Sanji was worthless and treated him as worthless um but he ultimately still like it wasn't to the point where he tried to actively kill Sanji right he was just so supremely disappointed in him that he treated him like like trash right kaido saw value in Yamato was impressed that she had conquerors hockey planned to make her Shogun of wano had somewhat High aspirations for her but at the end of the day was fine killing her so I would say that um I would put them in the same tier I would say that they're both D tier I don't think that you can really it's like what do you think is what do you think is worse you know Carl says judge through Sanji and jail cell with an iron Helm on yeah that was that was pretty bad but kaido did the same thing with Yamato just it's like without the so got into the same thing the Yamato he just didn't put the Iron Mask on but I think he also was just gonna let her die there so right there was no indication that he was going to let her out so judge at least let Sanji eat he just put on a mask so would you rather be in a jail cell okay you're a kid right your dad is judging kaido would you rather be locked up in a jail cell forever with an iron mask on but still allowed to eat and stuff or locked in a cave forever with some old guys um and none of you get food ever I think that that one's worse right that one's worse but it's it's like you know you're just arguing you're just arguing like technicalities at that point right Grimm says because Yamato likes Odin that's why that's true kaido ultimately made like he was punishing her maybe fiameter reneged her her uh her love for Odin got it would have taken her back so I don't know let's just let's just put yeah kaido's arguably just tough love where his judge was definitely not love he did not love Sanji so we're gonna keep him both in D I think they're both bad I think you can make a Mars as Sanji and rat friends hoodie so Sanju is still eating five course meals dead soon says at least in the cave you got company Yamato is lucky that those old guys were nice old guys because she's a little girl being locked up in a cave with just a bunch of old Samurai dudes that's not cool you know as a parent I don't think you would do that to your young daughter you know she got lucky but it's not like I don't knew Keenan says Judd tried to take all of his children's personality away which is arguably worse than killing them he legit tried to make them robots he tried to make a bunch of pacifists out of his kids all right we can agree that they're both really bad let's keep him in the same tier let's keep him in the same tier they're both really bad let's move around to some not so obviously Bad characters right so beige I think a great dad right I think beige is a outstanding upstanding father we're gonna put beige right here he is proud of his child Beijing even I think he rolled up to save um his family and he was like showing off to his kid like look look at your dad work and stuff like that beige great father right xinjiao not so great because I change out okay we're going to treat size change as sun in this situation all right jinjao is uh size Ginger's son even though he's his grandson we can only go off of what we know so xinjiao clearly does care about his grandchildren but at the same time he's very forceful in the route that he wants for them this is more of a classic example of bad parenting and the thing about the change outside situation is that it's not like Jinja learns anything right it's not like he learns that hey I shouldn't be forcing my son to do what I want things like that it's that his son actually does what he wants essentially which is like you know uh gaining the special family technique or whatever that can crack an iceberg and that impresses him so much and makes him so proud of his son that he's following in his footsteps so that he forgets about the whole baby five thing right how do I say beige how is Beijing pronounced don't say Beijing what is has it pronounced to me it reads like beige right is this not like beige yeah jaybrose has said kick him really hard yeah that's the thing see if Psy wasn't able to beat Jinja then xinjiang would pretty much still be a bad bad um yeah hoodie says change out is literally GARP but present hmm is GARP worse than xinjiao let's talk about Garfield no we'll get to GARP in a second Clover doesn't count Clover is not a dad come on COBRA is a great dad I think some of the dads that are great dads are easy right easy picks Cobra goes into s right wholesome wholesome wholesome Umar Allah says you miss my Dono let me take a quick look I don't believe you let me see I gotta see this for myself it's beige Beijing Beijing that's no BG BJ I don't none of these seem right I'm going with Beijing now I'm going with beige beige sounds right to me I think that's more correct you know what's funny is that for a lot of these pronunciations that people try and tell me I'm wrong on I'm like come on none of us really know how it's pronounced because we never hear it out loud but then I forget that the anime exists so most of you guys do actually know how to pronounce and I just don't is mortgage Unleashed in the mud uh no we're trying to get the frequency of upload back up it's just that the editors had a lot of um stuff going on over the last couple months basically plus we needed to take some time off to focus on mangamorge so now we're getting in the Rhythm where we can do both good news next video on magomorge is going to be a JoJo's video spanning all the parts Nikki nugs Welcome to the yonko axd Charlotte says he peeped on his daughter bathing yeah wait no that was a that was a weird scene I think I actually have to drop Cobra at full rank because of that I mean in reality it should drop more than a full rank it should drop several ranks but it's just like no not only that he didn't just peep on VV bathing he suggested it it was his idea he came up with the whole thing and it's just never addressed the reason I don't put it the reason I don't bump it super low is just because at the end of the day you have to apply some weird one-piece anime logic which is that just for whatever reason this is not in the context of the in the context of the one-piece world or the anime world or the manga world it's just uh this is just par for the course and we can assume that he wasn't interested in Vivi he was interested in Nami which in itself is bad because it's like Cobra's like a 50 year old dude or something like that he's like Let Me Go Peep on NAMI who's probably I feel like I want to say 18 at the time Nami is a year older than Luffy raid so she's 18 at the time pretty sketch I don't think I like to think he wasn't interested in Vivi but he did rally everybody else to go check out V it's weird we're dropping him a tear we're dropping him a tier it's obviously yeah it's obviously not like it was uh Nami or sorry it's obviously not like it was Vivi that he was interested in but it's just like uh I don't know I don't know it's still it's still bad all right dragon all right let's get to the interesting topics I mean as James the max says he peeked on his daughter while bathing while also encouraging people to peep on his daughter yeah pretty bad but it's uh you gotta apply some degree of anime logic there silence is being a pedo to Nami does not equal being a bad dad to Vivi I mean I agree but vivi's still there and he's still encouraging everybody else to he's not like let's all go pee but like let's not he's not like let's all go check out Nami he's like let's go check out the girls there's only two girls just Nami and Bibi there's no one else it's like it's not like he was thinking of like a like a crowd of girls that his daughter happened to be a part of which itself would still be weird there's only two of them watch amble says doesn't bage your son smoke a full cigar he a gangster yeah I mean that just shows how how well he takes after uh his father right rice oh is says this isn't a pervianist tier list it's a dad tier list Cobra's asked here no but it's still yeah but it's still it's not it's not that he's a pervert if it was just like hey I'm gonna go check out Nami then sure he's a nest here it's that his daughter was also there and he encouraged everybody else to also go check out the daughter I think that I think they'll drop some a tear I think the drops him a tier all right Dragon this is tricky dragon is uh [ __ ] we need another tier okay because okay hold on hold on terrible bad yeah Terrible Bad is dragon and bad no you know what I like the letters better it's just like this Dragon belong in B with Jinja or C with these guys because it's not like dragon try to use Luffy as a hostage like Morgan Spade says Cobra also tried to peek on Vivi when she was changing into a dress for her speech no that's not what that scene was I'm pretty sure that's not what that scene was um dragon is B8 here no he's not Carlos's Dragon isn't a father no he qualifies he's a biological father um this is tricky I really don't know where to put him because it's just like what's the deadbeat tier is he better than Cobra not better than Cobra okay because here's the difference so for comparing dragon and go and xinjiao Changi was around sure but xinjiao also is trying to force signed a certain path on the flip side dragon is uh not around but every time he talks about Luffy he really encourages and Embraces the idea that Luffy is following his own his own path right uh uh this is hard did Jen dance his death Dragon doesn't even counter for being real why doesn't Dragon count biological fathers count Jolly D joestar says he saved Luffy from smoker that's true big points from saving Lou for saving Luffy from smoker I think big points there I feel like Dragon belongs in b not because he's a good father not because like by the general scale of fatherhood he would belong and be but because of the scale that we've got right Micah barrera's St adoptive father disabo F2 to Luffy I don't know if Dragon Sabo is like a father-son relationship you can't just like say like any Dynamic where it's like there's a mentor mentee sort of situation that it's a father-son relationship you know I don't think that's the same thing like I think there's a difference there some of these ads are hard to grade it's like I don't know do I put do I put dragon in B what do I do what do I do I guess this is a poll right this is where we do a poll I think this is the right time to do a poll Also let's get the likes at 300. hoodie says Dragon told Saba to shut the [ __ ] up about Luffy that's true he did do that uh manifest Joe thanks for being a yonko to your member for three months dragon has to be held to a different standards of fatherhood due to be being raised by GARP maybe he didn't know he had a dad either um no that doesn't you you could still like that that gives him a good excuse for maybe not being a good dad if he had a Poor Dad himself but uh um you know that doesn't we're still like evaluating him as a father right not not the reasons for why he might not be a great father uh Ahmed boo says he literally raised Sabo no did he rate that did he raise Sabo or did the Revolution was Sabo raised up in the Revolutionary Army I think those are two different things right like was Dragon was Dragon being a father to Saab over the course of this who was Dragon kind of the guy that took him in was a mentor figure Etc but like with Sabo race specifically by Dragon I almost I don't feel like Sabo was raised specifically by Dragon right like um probably dasaba was raised in the context of the Revolutionary Army would be my assumption I don't know hoodie says Shanks is not a father figure to Luffy either but you all run with that okay we're gonna raid Dragon first and then the next question I want to ask you guys is uh does Shanks count as a father figure for Luffy because it is a stretch at the end of the day Shanks was around for maybe I don't know like a year of Luffy's life I don't remember the exact time span I don't know if he was like a father figure more just like a really cool inspiring role model that Luffy looked up to is that what the father figure is I don't know It's Tricky Tricky Tricky all right tricky Pablo says nasaba was like 10 what do you mean okay Keenan is saying I need a gap maybe I need another tier the gap between sabo's dad slash Morgan and someone like jinjao is larger but my question is just like is Sabo worse dad than chinja or sorry he's Dragon where's Dad than chinja I don't even know where I put Dragon because I'm like I think dragon is more welcoming of like letting his son be what he wants to be I think there is a value in that and he did save his son xinji was kind of like all it's not just the uh Psy baby five situation Shinju is kind of harsh about his kids the entire time from what I remember I think he was even I might be remembering this wrong I think it was kind of derogatory towards them during the Coliseum part of the Ark I might be remembering that wrong I think like not respecting their strength or something maybe I'm totally wrong about that maybe I'm not remembering um gigatrama says maybe Sabo is dragon's bet for Joy boy yeah I mean that's an interesting point manifest Joseph's de Don's band it's more of a father figure than Shanks yeah that's true this is too hard Shanks is uta's Dad oh yeah you know what's crazy I actually forgot about utta so I thought more so when we saw Shanks here you know what I thought of when I when we saw shakes here I was thinking of that random game I was thinking of that random kid um hold on oh let me show you guys um I'm not gonna I don't know why my my why my mind went here specifically the uh the random ass kid that Makino has that's who I thought of um you know this kid I think I've just like assumed somewhere in my mind that this is shanks's kid even though it probably doesn't really make sense timing wise at all like when did tanks grow up back here and what it probably doesn't make any sense uh but in my mind when I saw Shanks here I didn't even think of Luffy I didn't think of luta I was just like oh yeah Shanks is a dad he's uh he's uh makino's uh you know uh yeah yeah Maki knows baby daddy right blue says more do you miss my super all right wait let me double check oh hold on I gotta catch up on no I think I got everybody let me see what did I miss from Blue um oh blue says check out Euro animations 10 out of 10 YouTube One Piece content I'm not gonna do that on stream but uh I will think about it later I don't know Andrew ayanami says no way Shanks didn't adapt that I mean I agree but I'm just like he was there 20 years ago not 20 years like 10 he was there a while ago you know what I mean it's like a while unrivaled says oh yonko to remember for four months Oda kinda implied that Shanks his kid when did Oda imply it wouldn't buy it plastical this is Uta is not a biological daughter of Shanks either yeah but we're we're counting it we're counting it as a father figure right anyone that counts as a father figure in the sense that like they would call them dad pretty much we counted yeah let's say that they have to be they okay new rule new rule father figure stuff doesn't count father figure stuff doesn't count you have to call them dad right that doesn't mean that they are um yeah you have to call them your father that doesn't mean that they need to be biological but they do need to almost explicitly be taking that role no that's not fair because then Jen doesn't count and hero look doesn't count I don't think chopper ever called here to look his father I don't remember okay um we'll leave it we'll leave it then never mind forget it we're going with the vague interpretation of Father Figure why is Noland here who the [ __ ] are Nolan's I'm putting Nolan here why is Nolan in this discussion all right guys we're at a Crossroads we're at a Crossroads first of all who is the worst father xinjiao or dragon let's see let's start with that worse father then that'll help me divvy up the tears I don't this this might be one of the hardest year lists ever I don't know how we do this how do you evaluate how good a dad is dutt says well I guess he did peek at BB yeah that's well it's that and also he encouraged everybody else to do so that docks him one tier dragon is the worst father than xinjiao hmm would I rather have a father-like dragon or a father like Jinja I think they belong the same tier because it's so close you guys landed at about 51 48 wait let me do the poll again I ended up so I ended it so quick where's father one more time that sounds like they belong the same tier then if the pool is so close Corazon yeah yeah forget what I was saying forget what I was saying forget what I was saying yeah it's basically 50 50. oh no more people ah it's tight it's tight more people think dragons the worst father I'm gonna leave them in beat here I'm gonna leave them in B tier I'm gonna leave him beat here all right they stay in beat here change out is his is in his child's life yeah but being in your child's life doesn't mean you're better because we already put Morgan as worse than a dragon right I think it's better to have a very like in my opinion it's better to just not be there as a father but still be very um encouraging and hope for the best for your kid and like ultimately be there to look out for them like at log town like Dragon did then uh be like Morgan who would physically abuse his son and literally hold him as hostage to try and escape from the police I think that that's worse you get what I'm saying I think that's worse so we're gonna roll with this all right where does that put GARP okay if we went by real world standards real world standards if we apply real world standards to this right if we apply real world standards to GARP GARP is actually probably around d-tier oh I I can't speak to his relationship with dragon but I'm kind of going with his relationship with Ace and Luffy right because I mean with Luffy he's probably like it's like who is more of a father to Luffy dragon or uh or GARP GARP was right you make some more salad faces for thumbnails love you more that's yeah that is what happens thanks um but yeah the things that GARP did I don't know if people remember um okay let's let's pull up the rap sheet right I think it's chapter 431 if memory serves correctly uh uh GARP was GARP was a he was a very in the real world it's like if we're punishing Cobra for for the you know anime etchy jokes and stuff of like bringing uh it's 4 32 my bad um yeah bringing guys over to people and his daughter it's like well GARP though it's like garpa kinda okay I pushed you over bottomless Cliffs threw you into the jungle at night tied you on a balloon and sent you flying in the sky um and then we have actual panels as I remember if GARP straight up beating up Luffy Ace and Sabo like violently Sabo who's not even his kid or he's not in charge of Sabo but GARP loves his kids GARP loves GARP loves them and he cares for them and they care for him so I think that puts him slightly he's definitely worse than Dragon right I think it's worse to be you know I look I get it right there's this whole thing but there's okay modern cultural debate it's been happening these days you see it of uh how far is too far with parenting and a lot of it goes with different cultures right certain cultures it's like you should never touch your child should always be you know encouraging finding different ways to discipline modern some Modern parents don't believe in discipline at all crazy people but I get it lots of white families and such feel like physical discipline out the window then you move over to like Asian or I think just in general lots of uh minority cultures and it's like Well Physical discipline was just a part of it right it's just a part of the part of the way things are um and then that goes into the debate of like okay well how much is too much and it's like well maybe there's a difference between like your mom slapping you once or something like that in the face okay I'll say this as a kid I can't be like oh my parents like hit me a bunch right because I came from an Indian household that's not true but um it varies the degree in that my mom did slap me in the face a lot when I was a kid that was like a thing your mom I think that's a thing that I think most Indian kids go through uh or do they I don't know I don't exactly know but I did get slapped in the face a lot as a kid for all sorts like just ran depending on the age you know it depends but you know like literally if I spilled something or something like that and was at a bad time and you get slapped all right not a big deal to me in my opinion but I get that there's a wide range of people and wide range of people and how they react to things like that and then you get into worse stuff which is like you know at what point you call it abuse right when it's not just like a slap in the face but like actual marks are actually like really rough on the kid or something like that right so I get it and there's stuff like caning and stuff like that right so wide range so all that being said right all that being said um my mom didn't backhand me no it was all front hand all front hand silences bruh got beat with a stick still turned out fine I will say one thing before I go any further I do think that there's a bit of a thing with like uh like we almost got like a sense of Pride almost like lots of like when I when these conversations come up with like oh it's disciplining okay or not okay and people who grew up in cultures such as myself where some degree of physical discipline was always accepted right we do grow up with some degree of Pride almost of like yeah well we went through it and you know what we're [ __ ] yeah like we're fine so it's not a big deal with stuff like that I don't think that's the right way to look at it it can feel good almost to be like look it's not a big deal like [ __ ] toughen up it toughens you up make sure you're not spoiled and stuff like that that can feel good to say but you know at the same time it's like just because we went through it and we didn't think it was that bad that doesn't necessarily mean it wouldn't be better for next Generations right like that I don't think that's the correct mentality of just like well I'm fine therefore you know let's just keep this this ball rolling basically I don't think that's right um I don't intend to ever physically discipline my kid my dad never physically touched me in that way it was always my mom which I think is just it's just better in my opinion um so I think where I'll leave it at is my wife is free to uh yeah I think I'll leave it at that my wife will be free to slap the kids to her heart's content I will never touch the kids I think it just comes from a different place when it's a father doing it yeah I'm thinking I'm figuring out some things right now I think I'm maturing as a parent even though I don't have a kid yeah I will never touch my kids I think I'm confident in that my wife is free to slap them if she so chooses I will neither can we'll either encourage it nor nor uh prohibited I think that's where I'm at I think that's where I'm at anyway the slight eyes says kids today deaf needed that's the thing I don't think that's the right mentality it's just like just because you're growing up and you're like looking at these [ __ ] shitty gen's ears or whatever you're like these annoying little kids with their tick tocks and stuff like that someone just needs to [ __ ] hit him right that's what a lot of us probably feel right these [ __ ] kids they could use some discipline [ __ ] them I don't think that that's the right mentality though because that comes from more of a place of of spite right rather than um than actually being like okay what what allows people to grow into you know mature healthy adults or whatever and promotes the type of society that we want in general you know yada yada right Tam nugen says not really a badge of honor yeah it's not but I think a lot of people who grew up with that sort of thing really do hold it as a badge of honor which I think is the wrong mentality right just because you think that you grew up fine with that sort of thing and you're like well therefore I should be allowed to do XYZ going forward I don't think that's the right way to look at it I'm not saying that like there's a blanket right or wrong in this situation or whatever but um I'm just saying that that argument I don't agree with anyway not a pro 64 says if garb's gonna discipline yeah you know so the long story at the end of this though is that like all of that being said right you can say all of that stuff but then you have like GARP who's like so far beyond the point of a gray area right so everything I said there was basically like to establish that look there's a probably some degree of gray area when it comes to physical discipline for kids right GARP is comically comically so far past the gray area right it's not black or white he's in the black and like so far deep in the black that it's like a new shade of like it's just it's so it's it's so upset he pushed Luffy over bottomless Cliffs threw him into a jungle at night tied him on a balloon and sent him flying into the sky um keep in mind if Luffy lands in water he will drown and die because he has a devil fruit uh so GARP is basically like yeah my whole Spiel there was basically saying like no matter how you spin it no matter where you fall on the idea of discipline GARP is like 50 tears removed from any sort of same semblance of like the argument that like physically disciplining your kids is condonable in some circumstances right so it's almost like okay if we're playing real world logic right um like we docked Cobra a tear I feel like garp's got to be docked like all the tears he's almost here right he's almost in D his only saving grace is that he doesn't love the kids he does love the kids the kids do seem to love him Ace and how he handled the situation with a supreme court I think is very controversial um rightfully so it's complicated I'm gonna put GARP in C I think he belongs comfortably in C so anyway if garp's gonna do some of them this is what not a pro 64 is saying his kids became the number one revolutionary and future pirate king LMAO worst Marine of all time that's true but we're not judging him as a marine we're judging him as a dad um but as a dad he also did fail at being an influential father because he basically uh made his kids do the exact opposite of what he wanted right Papa dog sucker thanks for being a Yonka team member for four months guard beat those kids so no other man's beating would affect them as to your father that's he did instill certain values that he uh that he uh wanted uh that he did want his kids to have which you want like okay it's funny because he's he's he was right he got it he got his primary goal done all that was done so that he could become a strong man so that worked right he raised the strongest kids period right um but uh he [ __ ] up in that it did lead to that strength being used in a route that he personally did not approve of so interesting thoughts there green princesses where would morge be on the dad tier list I think I would be a good dad but I wouldn't be around that much does that make sense I think the time that I'd be spending with my kids I think I'd be great but I also think I wouldn't want to hang around them that much so I think I'd be an a-tier Dad I think I'd be around there that's what I think right my hope is that my kids aren't needy that they like their personal space and don't need uh don't need a lot of uh attention from parents you know John Easton says for all of the spirit breaking that guy for all the spirit breaking that kaido is known for he couldn't break the will of his seven-year-old okay I mean like I've got enough issues about kaido not really breaking anyone's Spirits or anything like that over the course of juano but I think that goes more show more so to show like you know Yamato's got a tough Spirit than anything else um you know no I'm not saying I would leave not saying I would go out to get some milk and never come home I mean more so like you know I just wouldn't want to hang out with them play with them spend quality time with them that much I think I would to a degree but just not that much you know what I'm saying like um you know you know like uh I think I just wouldn't wanna yeah I just don't think I want to hang out with him that much but I would enough I think I'd do it enough you know what I mean no I'd still be home I'd still be home you know I think I would be pulling this thing where it would be like I think I'd be pulling the thing where it's like okay I'm done [ __ ] I'm work from home though this is so tricky [ __ ] and work from home how would I get out of this because it's like dads that work at the office they can pull the the thing where it's like hey sorry I'm gonna be late coming home tonight because you know um you're making me work overtime or something like that or just I'm up to my neck with paperwork or something I'm gonna be a little bit late right so you can get like an extra hour or two or something like that of just not having to spend time with the kids couldn't really do that could I couldn't really do that to literally be able to watch the stream and know when the stream's gonna end I'd have to stream longer just to avoid hanging out with the kids it's gonna be a hard life all right okay this is more generally there for dinner time with the kids yeah that's right we'd all be eating hellofresh as a family all right um Moving On Moving On moving on let's go uh yeah I think I think I'd be eight here I think I'd be eight here because the thing is there's a huge gap between be an a tier at the moment right all right josh5nosis overtime also a cheater Element no no that's not what I'm saying at all this is purely in relation to the kids and not wanting to spend time with them I would want to spend some time with them just not that much you know more strategizing to be a deadbeat yeah [ __ ] I need to find an office job as soon as I become a dad quit business quit YouTube get an office I mean I guess I could work out of an office you know like one of those uh uh yeah you can always get an office space away from home that works all right I can drive snowy he just wants to be distant dad okay Jen okay again again I forget that his full name is jenzo again is about the best dad that it gets he gets bonus points for not actually being Nami and nojiko's Dad but um but going above and beyond for them this scene still gets me I feel like it's a chapter 80 maybe 79 79 yeah this scene still gets me I I think all the Gan scenes are just awesome oh man okay his interactions the amount that he cares for them even though he's not he's not even romantically involved with Bellamy or something like that he literally is just a guy that cares for these kids right cares for bellamere He wants to look out for Bellamy he wants to look out for kids right um this scene really gets me obviously bellamere's death but then like I'm gonna tear up on stream I can't do this um yeah Nami being taken away and her yelling for help for again oda's so good at drawing emotional fate like really big Expressions I think he's a really good drawing big expressions in these sort of scenes right that's why I always feel like oda's backstories are the best they just hit so hard because the way he does emotions and portrays emotions I think are because one piece has lots of exaggerated Expressions I think it works really bad good for stuff like this so again just getting cut up we learned that that's where his scars are from and everything like that and he's still coming this is the moment that that Nami realizes that like this was a really defining moment for her where she decides that she doesn't want to ever ask anybody for help again right seeing this yeah so this whole sequence and then the follow-up I feel like two chapters later with Gen taking the knife from her I'm just being like yeah I don't think I need to explain this this was one piece added to absolute best right one piece at its absolute best so again goes right here right again goes right here again does not perv on NAMI I think that uh he probably is Nate like just from some of his comments over the course of the like whatever he is like a little uh uncomfortable with uh you know Nami and nojiko basically growing up to be Bombshells or whatever but um he's not perving on NAMI he's more so like really concerned about like everybody else proving on her gen definitely gets extra points for like literally not being nami's father but um you know still going above and beyond right okay hero look easy s don't think I need to explain this is where we're getting to the top tiers see beige is a good dad like beige is a great dad but we just haven't seen as much we can just tell that he's a great dad but we haven't we haven't seen as much like hero look and and again especially because they they aren't their biological fathers they're just going out of their way to to do everything for these kids right Chopper Nami Etc [Music] um I think that hits a little harder for me personally Nikki nug says it's a little weird that her Bounty poster is Giant and blown up on his wall though I mean it wouldn't be weird if like if she just had a normal post if it was just a poster for face then it wouldn't be considered weird right we'd just be like oh that's a loving father it's because her poster happens to be really sexual that it's it makes it weird but you know um I don't think that's what he's thinking um yeah it's just like Hey we're looking again we see more if there are sacrifices that they've done right there's more dramatic scenes associated with them right and more dramatic acts beige we can just tell who's a good dad though J press pieces rate the strats as dads oh that's fun real quick okay let me uh if I were to pretend that the stratus dads how they would be um uh let me do sarata's parents quick quick uh quick tier list in the middle of this tier list quick quick to your list in the middle of the steer list let me just pull up straw parts laughs I think we got everybody here all right intermission to your list oh [ __ ] why is it not moving move hello [ __ ] did I break the computer okay um straw hats his parents really quick really quick I mean I think Nami would okay everybody thinks that Nami would be an amazing parent because nami's you know that's kind of the thing that they're playing up for son thanks for the donation you should ask a question please next time um let me yeah let me go real quick okay Nami uh she would be a good parent but I think like there's a difference between being like a really loving parent like I'm sure Nami would be but I also think she'd be like a terrible mom to have functionally right like imagine Nami being your mom she's really really she's very controlling would have a lot of rules she would not she would definitely love you a lot but she would not be a like I think the way Nami is she would be a borderline terrible mother to have just not like to the point that it's like abusive or neglectful just like so loving but also so controlling and stuff like you would not want Nami as your mom right I think Robin would be a great mom because we've seen the nurturing kind side from Robin everything like that like we've seen her with momonosuke with Toco and stuff like that I think Robin would be a better mom than Nami because Robin is also just generally a more understanding and uh you know gentle-handed person I think the Nami like you know we see the loving side of Nami but she's also she's got a really harsh side Robin's got a scary side to if somebody tries to hurt her children but I think Robin would just be like a much uh you know she'd be a better mom to have you know what I mean um like just really loving kids and being like having strong maternal instincts that alone doesn't make you a great parent right that that's should be the bare minimum to be honest right I think Robin's got that probably to a lesser degree than a Nami but um um I'm just saying that like think about who you would rather have as your mom Nami who is going to be yelling at you a lot gonna be telling you what to do all the time gonna be very controlling very uh yeah just very very right all the time very strict that's that's Nami right she's gonna love you a lot but that's just you know it's just like would you rather have her as your parent or Robin right um I think Chopper would be a good parent I think Chopper would be right here um once he grows up and matures I think he'd be a great parent uh Frankie would be the cool dad Frankie is the definition of a cool dad so like maybe not the best uh you know it kind of balances out I think these two kind of show both sides of you know like nami's probably super involved super uh super involved in her parents in her kids life but probably a bit extra about the whole thing Frankie's probably pretty hands off but kind of wacky maybe doesn't always maybe like gives his kid a beer to drink when he's like 10 or something like that but he's still a fun parent to have maybe he's a b maybe he's a b cool dad right um I think jinbei is like here no there's nothing that suggests the jinbe would be really loving to his kids right I think he'd be more involved than Frankie and would offer a lot of wisdom put him here I don't trust Brook as a dad I think Brooke could just be a whack dad Luffy is a dad would basically be a child Sanji would be a good dad I legit think Sanji would be good dad because Sanji from what we've seen he's got good uh instincts with kids and stuff like that actually from what we've seen and um he's smart he I think would give good say like he's life smart right I think that sanji's kind of generally a well-rounded person in terms of how he interacts with most people outside of women so outside of giving his son advice with women I think he's right here usop I think would be uh right around here Zoro I think would be slightly better than Luffy that's basically all I got all right I I Luffy would actually be a hazard to his child right it would actually be a hazard Zoro would be detached and Zoro does lots of dumb things but it's not that the degree the degree that Luffy is Luffy is basically like in the real world he's not a functioning individual the the things he would teach Luffy are just basically I mean the things Luffy would teach his kid are basically terrifying right I think this is about it all right I think this is a pretty good uh tier list for appearance of the straw or start being parents all right back to this one back to this one um oh homing okay this is an interesting pick donkey doflamingo's Dad doflamingo's Dad I think doflamingo's Dad he had his heart in the right place he really really really did I respect this character so much it's just that he got hit with the reality of the one piece world and the reality of the way the world Works he's kind of like you know how lots of people they're like [ __ ] rich people [ __ ] billionaires blah blah blah blah homing is kind of the example of I think what a lot of people would love to imagine people who are bored into a great degree of inherited wealth would do which is to basically be like okay I forgo this I didn't this is not my wealth or something like that I was just born into it let me uh let me let go of this and let me let my family live as normal people so the mentality there is nice but it's also just like well what happens when you do it yeah jet Jets fan 051 says homing didn't read the room he did not read the room and it got his kids kind of [ __ ] so it's like he's not here obviously he's not here he's somewhere here he is a good father I think having your heart in the right place and really caring for your kids which he did he tried to do everything he could he just didn't know right he didn't know any better and I don't think that's what makes you I think it's here yeah he is a good father like at the end of the day you do need wisdom right to be a capable parent which he lacked he's like it's so problematic because he's a great parent in every other aspect maybe he's here I I can't say he's as bad as these guys I can't say he's as bad as these guys I feel like he's here I'm gonna put him in B I'm gonna put in b all right kogara why is he here I don't oh no kogaro is offering his daughter up to I forgot I forgot whose daughter like I forgot who uh you know his whole thing was okay so offered his daughter up as a sacrifice bad at the same time they believed that that was the only way to save their land like he literally doesn't know any better I'm gonna put him in C I'm gonna put him in C put him in C innamon canamon great adoptive father to momonosuke I will put him in s I'll put kinem on an S right kinemon I think we can agree in s is there any reason to drop kinamanda a kinemon doesn't feel like an S to your father to me but he is right he is I think the reason kinemon doesn't feel like an S to your father to me um is just because initially we were like told that kinemon is monosuke's Father for a long time and then we find out after a little bit like oh it's not actually his fault like you know the relationship is not what we thought it was so then that kind of changed my perspective I've stopped viewing as moma's father but that's just because we got that shift in perspective in reality he's just as much moma's father as a hero look again right um yeah I think uh yeah yeah yeah he's an Esther your father I think you know one of the reasons I don't put okay the only reason I don't put Kingdom on truly alongside these guys is because momonosuke is also his master right so it's kind of like past a certain point I understood like kinemon is also just following his duty and I think along the way he grew to become really attached to a Momo and like did so much for him as his son but it's just because so much of it is also kinaman framing it as like I have to protect my Lord I have to protect my my um uh you know um you know my Lord my master Etc so it's intermingled right the love that he has from omonosuke it's not quite the same as like hero look again which to me feels more pure in that it's literally just like these are people completely unrelated to these kids but they have such a strong paternal Instinct that they take them in and uh do they give their entire lives for them so it's a little different I also I want to drop kidamon a little bit because he doesn't always give momonosuke the best uh guidance he's not the best father figure for Momo because uh he coddles Mama too much that was actually a big deal if you go back to you know like um whoops like important points in the series um like fairly important scenes in the series like uh um you know the the entire discussion that they had with um you know asking for help and everything like that um from the straw hats I think one chapter over yeah asking for help from the straws and stuff like that um the big thing is that uh momonosuke you know um what do you call uh momonoski needs to step up be an adult and everything like that it's clear I think like scenes like this right that's like only Luffy is able to bring that part out of momonosuke right and kind of hold him to a certain standard it's clear between scenes like this and um and scenes like you know them at the beach and everything like that when they think people haven't shown up and they're sending mominosuke home they I I don't think that like kinemon clearly cares about Momo but um he coddles him probably too much and I don't think he always has the best advice or decision like he's just trying his best but at the end of the day he his mentality is also like well I have to protect Momo because Momo's uh like he treats him as though he's this uh very fragile object that needs to be preserved because momonosuke is you know also the uh like his master descended to foden Etc like he's supposed to like like his duties to safeguard this kid so his heart is definitely in the right place but I don't view it the same as these other guys I suppose who I view as like more all around great father figures right because it's not just like how much you care about the kid it's like how well are you able to guide him and kinemon's like 80 of the way there so I'm gonna drop kinamonda a um not for any um not for being any lesser than these two or these three I suppose but just uh yeah if we're really getting to how good of a father he is he has his gaps right Edson Elon says this looks like a best dad's not worst dad skew list yeah it's just it makes more sense to do it this way because it just looks weird to say like s tier and then have the it just it just visually makes more sense I think to to go from best to worst always generally right yeah I mean that's what so that's like kind of like uh the xinjiao dragon situation right like um to a degree right like Dragon made ultimately like he will not that that's not a good analogy it's not the same thing all right koshiro these are is kosher okay for the sake of shortening the list I'm taking kosher out of there he's just not I don't think he's like a father figure disorder um Heroes great father Heroes s tier easy easy easy let's move it along um the Gen dances ketamon is not the same in the same tier as the perv come on I mean that's like another another aspect kidamon like uh kidamon gets pissed off edmonosa getting getting away with perf stuff like uh legitimately pissed off like he's ready to do violence to that kid when he sees a moment Oscar getting away with the birth stuff he's not you know he's not as wholesome as these other as these top four characters right Moria who's Moria father of I don't even know moria's kid Maury is going here um oh perona is because Moria took in perona and I'm just for the sake of shorting the list I'm putting it here Mr nine Sega short on the list I'm putting it here like let's talk about father so we we get a better idea of right oh queena queena oh yeah yeah you're right you're right quina forgot about queena well this is gonna be fairly blunt but I feel like part of being a good parent is making sure that that child you know makes it to adulthood and kind of like out of all the dads here probably dropped the ball on that in the biggest way yeah I'm gonna leave him there like you couldn't put some railing on those stairs man come on Annie crush your dreams yeah he's just a d to your dad you guys that we have different reasons for putting him in D I think that we're all on board uh I think we're all on board I thought we were talking about koshiro as like a father figure to Zoro I was like that's such a stretch Sneads feed and seed says he was so sexist she died that's actually really funny okay um Neptune Neptune keep capture host I feel like okay with Neptune he kept shirohoshi locked away in like a tower for her entire life I get that it was for her own safety but I feel like there's better solution so I'm gonna put him in C he's C come on no all I'll say is that look uh Sanji alive and thriving right now Yamato alive and thriving right now these characters chasing their dreams right Sanji Yamato live thriving chasing their dreams right doing very well uh quina dead and even if she was alive she wouldn't be allowed to chase her dreams I think he belongs here Whitebeard easy s tier right easy as cheer am I ranking these I feel like okay just imagine I'm not ranking these I feel like I'm gonna put Whitebeard right here just because no it's It's Tricky it's like Whitebeard was a great father to many I think hero look and again they were like the perfect father to one person right KIRO so it's like hard to compare these I feel like this isn't ranked we're just gonna leave it kind of nebulous Odin was he a good dad I think Odin's like the definition of like Odin's here right he's not a bad dad I don't think Odin's a bad dad whitebeard's also like the the model like he's the iconic father of One Piece right so let's put him in here I don't think he's in his own tier because I'll say this I like you know the thing that Whitebeard was accused of by um by scored right like uh you know like you care about Ace more than us it's like low-key true right he doesn't view all of his children equally I don't think that's true Billy brethel says he fought a war to save his son yeah by e by throwing off his other Sons Into the Fire he brought a war by taking off his sons into a life or death battle to save a son he's he's great in a in a very uh he's great in a sort of like Grand Mythic sense as a father I'm just saying that like in terms of like an actual one-to-one father-son Bond father child bond that we've seen I feel like these characters represented a bit more and then Whitebeard represents kind of the model you know ideal image of like this grandfather figure I think it's just different you know yeah Billy brethel says his sons love their brother I'm just saying Squad was some of them had issues right some of them had issues not all of them were on board um they recognize their faults but it's it's complicated right I put him in one I put him at one I get what you guys are saying um I put him at one it's Whitebeard I love white beard whitebeard's my favorite character out of these top five dads um it's just that like when I think of my favorite parent-child bond in one piece whitebeard's not the one I think like he's more representative of like this Grand great father figure right I think these are more pure individualist like individual bonds that really stood out right [ __ ] I gotta order my doordash real quick one second before the restaurant I ordered from closes give me one second guys let me answer a question in the meantime Nikki nog says you're acting like they didn't want to save Ace they did but they clearly had some issues with it right otherwise Whitebeard wouldn't have gotten stabbed um at the same time I think that uh you know I've got him at one what more do you what more do you want me to do yeah that's my point Miss Einstein's evil says Whitebeard had like a thousand dudes on his ship you think he loved them all equally question mark LMAO yeah that's that's the thing like if we're talking he just didn't right like that's not possible um I don't I wouldn't be surprised if Whitebeard did not know the names like when he's taking characters in as his sons it's it's a it's not to form that like it's to provide them a shelter a space right like a like to help them join his makeshift family but um it's not like he has the same bond between each of his kids like he did with Ace right ace was his Golden Boy that he was uh raising to be pirate king um but that doesn't make him any less of a like whitebeard's probably one of the best single characters that we've got in one piece period again I got him at one I got him at one if this is ranked you know considered ranked not ranked I'm not really putting much thought into like rank versus not ranked here um at least for the top tier kind of kind of eyeballing it you know let me just make sure I'm gonna have dinner tonight oh they changed their what change their UI doordash change their UI how do I man [Music] let's look like this I don't know how to work it okay no no they didn't change their UI this is doing the wrong thing good news good news I'm gonna have dinner tonight I'm all good I'm taken care of let's rank somebody else in the meantime pagaya why do I have some problem with pagaya why'd I have some problem with the guy I know I've got some problem with pagaya somebody explained to me wipe a guy is not Esther he's just he's not St right is there anything that he did that puts him in estia he's just like a good solid dad right like he's probably eight here is there anything for guided that wasn't good no no no no no no oh God damn it I think I ordered too late [ __ ] okay that's cool that's cool insatiable hunger says more did you dodge the reverie tournament shake my head I was never in the referee tournament I don't have a switch that works I don't have a working switch I was never in the referee tournament I told Roger I could join in for a commentary because that'd be fun but then when I joined in there's also like 10 other people in commentary I'm like all right I'm kind of done like there's no need for me to be here you guys are good um he saved her from a giant lightning blast you know what [ __ ] it I I don't I don't care I don't remember everything but guy did he's she's he's going in a he's going in a he's going in it send your pink I don't think no we'll send your p can someone give me the chapter of send your pings backstory I need to review something um because in theory he's like the greatest po he's the greatest post-mortem dad ever right walking around dressed as a son but um while his son and wife were around was he that good if a dad I don't remember someone give me the chapter what was the chapter for senior Pink's um uh what was the chapter for senior pinks whatever was he a bad dad he was never a dad his kid died he was a dad for like a minute right I need to know what's the chapter someone tell me the chapter he's a good husband wasn't a father yeah I was never there for his son until it was too late okay I'm gonna put him in B I'm gonna put him in b ound I think pound's a great father I love pound because pound did everything without even a relationship with his kids I think that's really special that makes him again not ranked but yeah pounds relationship with uh with his children is really important this is something I didn't talk about in the uh whole cake Island video but it's interesting that the side characters like pound and Beijing they're defined by being such amazing parents like the perfect fathers um and the counterpart is like judge and Sanji that relationship and then you know obviously big mom and her kids unrivaled says didn't think Whitebeard wanted to make Ace fired King from what I understood that was just an excuse from sengoku Whitebeard actually didn't care about all the pirate king stuff no everything the story indicates that Whitebeard was well aware of the will of D and well well aware of the importance of it and even in his dying speech you can see him talking about like the will that's left behind from Roger to Ace um there's characters that talk about it like uh in the new world like Post Time Skip and stuff about like how Ace was kind of set up to be that guy um it just it follows pretty much perfectly that like yeah Whitebeard took in Ace very much partly because he was well aware of the wheel of Roger it's not like Whitebeard himself was going to complete it or anything like that but he understood that Ace was the guy that would be perfect to fall in his Father's Footsteps right um the thing is like lots of times you need a reason to get the indication that like the author is trying to have a character have a like when a character's like expressing something right um you kind of need to like have a re like is the author trying to tell you something that you're supposed to take as a revelation or statement of truth right and I think sengoku's entire speech breaking down like that was meant to be sort of like a moment of truth moment like breaking down like here's the truth this is what actually happened you are not this person you are the son of the pirate king and like the reality is that your entire life and the entire world recognizes that like you're being built up to be like why does Whitebeard not care about being pirate king right um you're it right and there was never anything that Oda really did to try and contradict that notion because that was kind of supposed to be like the starting premise of the Marine Ford Arc to set the stakes of like this is what Ace really represents because that that's what adds so much impact to the idea of Ace dying not just that it's Luffy's brother but what Ace is supposed to represent not just that he's Roger's son but that white beard and as we learned later on in the new world right Post Time skip many characters viewed Ace as kind of The Shining Star that was most set to probably pick up the mantle of pirate king down the line right so it wasn't just that Asus Luffy's brother not just that Ace is Roger's son but also that Ace is likely the best successor to Roger even more so than Luffy and that's kind of what whitebeard's final dying speech is getting at that Lake yeah like uh even if Roger's gone even if Ace is gone that will can still be carried on in someone else and so finally we get from Roger to Ace to Luffy as the final successor of the idea of pirate king right um anyway Brian says you said Saba's dad was ultimately right even though he only knew the kids were poor bad logic switch poor for black oh my God we're not [ __ ] doing this if you say don't hang out with that boy he's black if they end up being bad doesn't make you right first of all oh my God okay we're not doing this first of all no Luffy and Ace were not just poor they were the [ __ ] scourge of the city they were criminals they were child thieves who were stealing like they were notorious through the city for stealing from people right it's not just like oh those kids are poor or oh those kids are this race or that race it's like no the kids you were hanging out with are by definition delinquents obviously we as the reader we know Nuance right we know the Nuance which is like no they're delinquents because they need to do this to survive right everything it's it's not black and white right if you bring up race I'm just saying in moral sense right it's not black and white they're Shades of Gray people do things because they got to do things right but I'm saying like no if you as a parent found out that your kid is hanging out with basically the kids that go around stealing from everybody else breaking the stores robbing people Etc day after day and that's what they do then uh you know that's basically that's something that you're gonna have a problem with and guess what those kids did influence your kid to become the world's biggest criminal so yes in that sense the dad is correct which is why he's in seat here and not D tier where are you pulling race from this is insane uh Riku doldu the Third I forget what the deal was with him I forget what the deal was with him uh I literally don't remember if he was a good dad or not he did some stuff that was complicated he like kind of vaguely looked out for Rebecca but also not that much and Scarlett was a weird I'm just gonna put him in like B I don't remember that much about him I feel like he could have done more could have done more um Roger as a dad Roger is a dad's almost not fair because he didn't get a chance to be a dad right I would put Roger and B would put Roger and B why is Dragon better than GARP though because GARP beat those kids not just beat those kids he nearly murdered those kids on many occasion rosinante Corazon we got another uh Top Line uh Father Figure right here rosewald is actually a good dad better Dad than uh [ __ ] he doesn't belong I feel like he doesn't belong in a right because I don't feel like he would sacrifice his life to save his son but he definitely belongs spoiling your kids is not good right but he belongs probably near the top of this tier probably neither top of this year right I think right around here um then shanks Shanks and utta I haven't seen the movie I'm gonna put her I'm gonna put him here I've seen like enough of clips of the movie that I kind of get the idea that Shanks had some big important reason to not look out for utta or like to abandon Utah because she was like a devil or something or had a devil inside her or something like that but I don't remember exactly we're just gonna put Shanks here spandyne we don't know enough about his relationship with his son we're gonna put him here Sukiyaki is just a shitty shitty shitty character right um I'm gonna base it on his relationship with Momo because we didn't see enough of him and Odin he also disowned Odin I'm gonna put tsukiyaki's gonna go here tsukiyaki is good yeah tsukiyaki goes here I think well Shanks a good dad somebody Fill Me In we're talking to utta to utta not the new one not the new one we don't know the new one's not confirmed new one's not confirmed right did Oda confirm that it was uh that uh makino's kid is uh Shanks his kid is Shanks a good dad to utta someone explain loud waffle suzukiyaki was decent Odin was way out of control shouldn't tsukiyaki be like able to control him to a degree yeah it's the main thing Sukiyaki spent his years in hiding taking care of Tama maybe that's good that's good it's just that tsukiyaki is just such a pathetic character it's hard for me to view him as like a good dad I guess he's here right he's probably in b but I feel like he's like Rick who's here and B I'm gonna put him here Oda said it's probably that guy then it's probably shanks Shanks would have given B or C okay I'll but wasn't he looking out for her or something like that like wasn't he doing everything to to try and save her or something okay dojen dances Shanks left but he did it to protect her from Marines oh that's a bad reason that's a bad reason because it's like the red-eared Pirates are hunted by Marines anyway that doesn't make any sense that's like if the striats left Robin wait what oh no I get what never mind I'm stupid it's the other way around it's the other way around yeah left to protect her from Marines but it's kind of like shouldn't he be able to like they're the red-haired Pirates what are they afraid of the Marines for ah maybe you didn't have the confidence back then I mean they're yawn code crew why is he they're yonko crew right John says who cares if he took care of Tama that ain't his kid okay I'll leave Sukiyaki there I'm gonna put Shanks in b keep Shanks and unrated I'll keep him unrated I didn't see the movie it's not fair for me to rate it Fisher tiger did he have kids Fisher tiger didn't have kids right I'm Gonna Leave Fisher tiger uh Tom was a good Tom's not a father figure to them it's not the same not the same like he's just their he's their Mentor their role model it's different Toto I love Toto as a father Toto's a great father Toto goes an s odo's an amazing father yasop will go wherever Dragon did so B yasuh yeah him having the smile fruit and stuff like that he can go in a s like eating the small fruit for the sake of his kid tiger koala no tiger is not a no that's not you guys are using Father Figure way too Loosely no he's not the tiger he's not koala's father they escorted koala from one place to another that's not making him her father holy [ __ ] do you guys think that if you like babysit a kid for like a weekend that makes you their father figure holy [ __ ] standards are not like absolute like in the ground just to be classified as a dad with you guys it's like if you get left alone with like a child for more than an hour it's like oh yeah you may as well have adopted them at this point what the [ __ ] zeph talk to your dad absolutely these are some great dads talk to your dad uh Kuma we don't know enough unranked unranked Papa Doc sucker says then why is Whitebeard on this list because Whitebeard kept them permanently Whitebeard kept them permanently he brought them in to his family permanently Fisher tiger wasn't signing up for Parental Duty he was an escort Mission it's like an escort mission in a video game alright when you escort you know you escort character a from location a to location B right that doesn't make you their parent over the course of that trip that's weird Tom is not a father figure Tom doesn't count no no Tom is just their their teacher he's their coach Tom's a great character okay fine I'll put Tom and S I just don't think that's the same thing I don't think it's the same thing okay among these dads I think we got a pretty good list at the end of the day um among these characters Whitebeard here look again kiro's pound Corazon beige Toto okay here's the one thing I think Beijing Toto while we understand that they are amazing fathers right we can understand through their character they likely would do a lot for their kids I think these are two characters that didn't make like everybody else you could see their they made significant sacrifices for their kids right um like Whitebeard died for his son hero look it would look like we don't need to go through the list but each of them like they're willing to do we've seen them multiple times put their lives on the line sacrifice things sacrifice legs sacrifice uh you know themselves going to infill down stuff like like we've seen them do so many things so I feel like these guys all rank just if we had one extra tier we might have S minus and an S minus might be Beijing Toto but that's just because we haven't seen them really do it right whereas we know that probably most likely yeah beige would probably sacrifice as much for his kid as like you know akiro's Toto would probably sacrifice as much risky it as you know um Tom or something like that so it's kind of like we got to see it we gotta see it yeah monkey this is Tom is more like a Sensei to Frankie than a father and you know what that's the right way to phrase it I was looking for the word Sensei we needed that Japanese terminology and now Tom is out of the picture Okay so best fathers in one piece I think these are all the best fathers for sure Beijing Toto I think we could see a little bit more out of them but we're gonna keep him in that tier then a these are essentially good Fathers but they got something knocking them off the list just slightly uh except pagaya because pagaya kind of just don't remember what he did uh I just remember a guy not being as impactful in my mind as the others but guys probably asked I guess I don't know I don't know why but guys no I just don't remember it's I I despite I put the guy there um yeah these are fine father figures they just could have probably done a bit more I guess Odin could have been around a bit more but I feel like Odin still had a good Dynamic good relationship with his kids no not that they could have done a bit more that's not what it is they all had one flaw right like uh Cobra it's the Peeping scene right kinemon it's the not always good guidance from Momo and also the fact that he is also obligated to take care of momo in a way that a lot of these other figures aren't because Momo is both his son figure but also his his master right he has to do everything for him out of Duty not just love um although he obviously loves Mama right Odin uh wasn't around for a little bit but it does seem like in the time that he was around he was a really good dad to his kids like Odin is the most I'd say out of all the fathers Odin's the most uh dad dad you know what I mean like he's not like uh like he's got like he's got a good relationship with his kids he seems like the fun dad right he seems really happy to have kids and everything like that um maybe not as involved as Mom right that's the thing probably not as involved as mom took a bit of a trip a business trip right for a good year or so two years or something like that didn't see his kids for a bit but um in general I feel like Odin fits I think many of the stereotypical ideas of like a dad right these guys all have problems but uh they balance out in certain ways right like rose World spoils his kid Rose Ward isn't rosewald spoils his kid but um same time probably loves this kid xinjiao mostly good just two Stern and tries to force him in a certain path drag and it's the opposite um mostly uninvolved in his son's life but clearly goes out of his way to save him like at loketown when needed absolutely needed um hasn't shown up since then so I guess he just decided any sloppy and [ __ ] that wasn't important enough um but most importantly encourage his son to follow the path that uh is most fitting for his son that is that his son most wants to do which is very important homing bad decision making but heart in the right place right A lot of these dads are like the flawed but um good in certain ways to add right then these are the bad dads who've done bad things uh like notably bad things I'd put Neptune up above up one I think Neptune's not in the right place um yeah these dads are kind of just shitty right and then these dads are [ __ ] terrible the worst dads around right you would never want them um remix gangsters thoughts on the Kyrie trade and Dallas NBA Finals so I am going to end the stream here most likely after this probably last question um yeah I mean like I really really really really dislike Kyrie Irving quite a bit as a person um just like I just like Kyrie so much um I really really hate that dude so I was worried about him being traded to the Lakers because then I'm like [ __ ] I'm gonna have to root for Kyrie because I I gotta support LeBron it's like I gotta I'm almost happy that it didn't happen that Kyrie didn't go to the Lakers but I don't know the Mavs are like my second favorite team at this point because Luke has my favorite up and coming player LeBron's my favorite player Luke is my favorite up and coming player so I'm just like well now I gotta watch Luca and Kyrie I don't know and I also don't know if it's gonna be that good if it fit because I don't know like is is that really what Luca and I guess Luca just needs another star at the end of the day and he can make do with whoever but it's just like um they're both like such talented ISO scorers right that's their biggest skill set um they're both closers I feel like it could just yeah they could be really good I don't see him winning the whole thing um but I think that makes them like you know a really good chance of making it maybe to the finals or the Western Conference Finals or something like that I don't know um I got conflicted feelings maybe I just ignore everything I felt about Kyrie before this and just uh just accept the way it is see you could also say like well Kyrie and Kevin Durant like isn't that a bad fit then but like I feel like Katie's always different in that like he can just do it so effortlessly you can just throw him the ball and he can take two dribbles and take a shot and then he's good like it's almost like I don't count like Kyrie and Luke in my mind like they need the ball so much um they're gonna do 50 moves Luca natsuma but like you know what I mean like they really need they need to go to work if that makes sense with the ball and like keep going keep going like eventually like with their bag of tricks they're just gonna keep keep getting to the basket or keep making shots and stuff like that KD it's so effortless that it's like it almost doesn't even count right um I don't know it's hard to say it's hard to say um because it's like Luca is so tricky for me to rate because in my mind like Luca uh like it's a yeah no it's a crazy duo in terms of like well if they really hit like if they really play to their isolation scoring strengths like to the max like maybe they can just like single-handedly beat down any other team um I just don't like Kyrie so I don't love the love the idea but you know if it gets the Mavs a championship then I'll I'll look I'll just forget about everything Kyrie's done to be honest it's just the way it works in sports you kind of just get a pass once you win um the last thing I'll say is just that Luca is the trickiest player for me to rate right now because on the one hand I'm like I could see an argument for him being I could see an argument for him already verging on being the best player in the NBA or like at least in that discussion but at the same time it's like what type of player does he really need that compliments him best right for him to be at his best I'm like is it a Kyrie type of player I don't know I don't know [Music] um Zen chances Luca plays like LeBron though and Kyrie and LeBron worked out though here's the difference here's the difference which is um look LeBron's my favorite player right so I'm never gonna go with the mentality that like the narrative that like oh LeBron's not you know not clutch or anything like that but um the reality is that LeBron likes having a player like Kyrie because um like having somebody it's not like LeBron isn't a last shot type of player last possession type of player but um when it comes to closing um at the end of the day I think LeBron is perfectly fine with her or happy to have a guy like Kyrie that that lives for that sort of thing that really wants to go to work and like thrive in like um uh trying to close out the game or like make difficult shots and stuff like that right like LeBron's a better scorer overall than Kyrie he's going to score more points over the course of a game in series obviously but um like having a player that you would call quote unquote a closer I think LeBron likes having that type of a guy on a team LeBron can play that role really well we saw it like in the 2018 run where he basically had to close out every difficult series and every game by himself and he'd like buzzer beaters and all sorts of clutch shots and stuff like he can play that role amazingly well but I think like naturally he's happy to have a guy that does something like that Luca is the opposite no not the opposite Luca is like LeBron in every sense right he gives you he controls every possession he uh does all the play making he rebounds Etc he can get you a ton of points but he also lives for taking those last shots right and closing out the game and just like trying to go ISO scoring as much as possible um down the scratch and stuff like that right whereas LeBron very often will be he's good with that but he's also happy to pass it up to somebody who can he's got a better shot set up or to somebody else who like a coyote that will go to town um and just ISO score right so that's like I think that there's just a difference you get what I'm saying in terms of like Luca is like he plays like LeBron but he also has the kairi mentality when it comes to like do I want to close do I want to take the last shot right so that's why I think that there's a bit more of a clash right there could be more of a clash because it's like Luca already feels Kyrie's rule in a sense right he already feels Kyrie's role I feel like Luca needs somebody that feels roles that he doesn't which isn't the same the split ice says LeBron is way better on defense than Luca we don't need to have this debate LeBron is a better like LeBron in his prime is better than Luca there's no no question about that I'm just saying that like um like you're talking about like style of play right Jets fans 051 says oh or a big athletic center that can pick and roll yeah I just don't know if like Luke can eat like Lucas like Kyrie feels for LeBron the one thing that LeBron doesn't love doing even though he's good at it right which is um just repeatedly ISO scoring down the stretch and trying to take over uh to close out a game right and trying to hit like close out shots and stuff like that right again LeBron good at it he's just fine not doing that role and he likes having a guy that he can go to for that right that's always been the case Luca already likes doing that [ __ ] he likes doing the same stuff that Kyrie does they do it in a similar manner um very ball dominant long uh ISO possessions and stuff like that where other people are standing around and watching you know anyway then we're all good yeah Jets fans 051 says LeBron is always looking to pass Luke and not really yeah Luca is very good at passing but he's not always looking to pass right Monkey D says LeBron Lucas in the past first player like LeBron is LeBron's not even I don't even like he's not even past first and like he's like the he does what needs to be done for the situation so lots of times that is passed first and then other times that's like he's just gonna score I don't think like it's just complicated like I don't think he's like he's more past first than a lot of these other guys right like than a Kyrie or a um you know Kyrie or a Luca or whatever right peanut butter and way versus Lucas way better long-range shooter yeah I mean Luca is probably a more uh I don't know like comparing Luke and LeBron it's like to me it's just like too early to even do that like I think Luca right now is better than LeBron yeah comparing Luke at a prime LeBron it's like that's Prime LeBron right like that's like that's that's Prime LeBron man um yeah remix King says then what do you think Luca's ideal teammate is that's the thing to me it's really really challenging because uh he does pretty much everything you need really really well except defense but pretty much everything you need really really well but he just needs the ball so much right he just needs the ball so much so it's like what does he really really need right um someone ventured to like a center probably that'd be good it's just like yeah it's hard to say what he really really needs because it's like uh he does he covers everything so well but he also needs the ball so much so it's like you put in anybody who has does somewhat similar stuff to him it's like um does that conflict or does that you know not okay I think we're good um yeah probably gonna order from Chipotle instead I suppose and I guess besides that we're all good papadox actresses Prime Brawn greater than Luca greater than brown right now yeah yeah all right guys

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Published: Tue Feb 07 2023