Wiring ICF Walls!!!

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hey guys today I'm going to redo a video it's actually my very very first ICF video uh just back when I was trying to have a normal building Channel and I thought I would show off an ICF project we were doing and a ton of times when I'm dealing especially with diy-ers or people who are just new to ICF they really do wonder how you're going to run wire in these and so I'm actually back at my house uh on my weekend project if you will and I'm going to go through in a little better detail than I did in that video I mean that was one of my first probably five YouTube videos you know 70 some videos ago and didn't really know what I was doing and it was it was an okay video it was actually my first video to really kind of go viral if you will but it wasn't super detailed and I didn't explain a lot of things and the audio was pretty bad so real quick I'm just going to kind of give you a synopsis I've got this light deck that I'm standing on here and I have a basement or it's actually technically a crawl space um because it doesn't have a code set of stairs leading into it but I'm going to wire down the there my electrical panel is down there I chose to fur out the ICF wall down there and I'll get into why you want to do that on a panel wall if you can I try to plan for that if you have a mechanical room or whatever and you're going to mount the electrical panel it's better to Just Fur out that one wall to give your you plenty of room to run your wires into the top of that panel in my garage out there that's all ICF I'm opting not to do that where I'll have a little gutter box that mounts onto the top and gives me a place to get my wires back into the ICF but effectively you have two and a quarter inches of foam here which is just perfect for a regular Gang Box an old work box with uh without the nails in it and you'll cut away the foam and you will insert the box into the wall and it will be sticking out about one half of an inch just enough for your sheetrock so it's kind of perfectly designed for it and you'll we what we like to use you'll see guys on the internet using hot knives uh different things the best thing I've found they'll use routers and everything else but a chainsaw um what we do is we buy a cheap chainsaw from you know Harbor Freight or somewhere and we use that hole in the end of the bar and we just make a little block we usually round it over to where it can kind of just float on the wall and that distance right there is just enough to keep me from hitting the concrete with the chain so I can zip along and give myself a uh channel to put wire in and the really cool thing is a chainsaw width is just perfect for like a 12 or a 14 gauge Romex Wire and you push it in and it generally just stays in the back of it and that's really awesome and I'll get to why because you won't ever hit them with screws they're very much protected so um real quick I'm going to go ahead and show you what I'm doing here I've got a king size bed sitting here and a king-size bed is 76 inches wide I've got the center marked here so I'll just poke that in and I'll come out here and I will mark 38 inches out and that's going to be the edge of my bed and uh what I want is I'm going to put a double receptacle or a switch and receptacle for a lamp and that 32 inches so I'm going to come 16 inches off of this wall here and that's going to be the center of this box and what I'm going to do because you know anymore with you have a million Chargers iPhones headphones everything else I also know that my bed it's a Sleep Number bed on a platform is about 24 inches up and that's where my built-in nightstands will be 24 inches up and I want the bottom of my box to be four inches above that so I'm going to sit this right here and it kind of works out nice it's right along that top of that block there so it's going to make it that much easier to get it to come out and that actually worked out it's at the end of a block too so that one's going to be super easy to get out the next one will be over here and uh I'm gonna do the same thing I'm going to come off 16 inches and up 28 and this one's a little bit less happy because I am on a web and I'll show that's actually good for you guys because the cool thing about ICF wiring is that I can put this box anywhere I want you know if I'm on a stud wall you know I have to block out if I need it right here you don't have to do it with ICF but sometimes if you're on a web it does complicate breaking it out a little bit I have no idea what that is but anyway I'm going to show you so I've already got my home runs I've got them they're spooled up in the basement I've got this 14 gauge for my arc fault circuit to run my lights and my receptacles in the bedroom this one is a 20 amp that is going over to a a bidet I'll have another 20 amp that Services the receptacles in the bathroom on the other side of this wall but for the moment I'm going to show you running these two home runs Landing them in the boxes and how to run all the receptacles and everything on around so okay so after I Come Around the Corner the nightstands will come out to about here I'm just going to want another receptacle you know right in here which uh I'm just going to set them up kind of kind of normal here along the bottom of and I'm just going to mark them out okay and I'm going to do one more down here at the end of the wall get as close to the uh the end without looking silly that I can get um so anyway I'm going to take you down to the basement after I do this and show you how I wired the cans in the light deck normally I would use like a round box and just put it up in there and then use a flush mount fixture but I have a bunch of Halo cans so I'm going to use them I got I'm going to put six of them down there it's a pretty big open space room and I'm going to use a few more in the uh stick frame part of this roof but I've got I've got these really cool lights that my electrician gave me that I've got I've only got four of them we used them a couple years ago on the shaw Hollow project you've probably seen some of the pool work we've done there the light deck roof that we've poured and it's a trimless can but these things are really expensive they're like a movie theater can they're a zero to ten volt dimmable there's a lot more to them so I've only got four of them they're going right in the master but then I'm using Halos everywhere else and uh Halos are super nice for for the money they're great value and like I said I'm even going to use them in the light deck which is kind of a pain in the butt to do but I'll show you that in just a second as well okay all right guys so now that that's done what I'm going to do is something I didn't notice when I was talking before is that this one also had a web in it and it was actually right in the middle I had to cut right through the web so see I had to slice through the web there but you see I'm clearing all the way to the concrete right here it's not that hard to do make sure the box is going to fit nicely you see how it's sticking out just about half an inch so when the drywall goes in it's like flush okay so now I'm going to grab the uh the appropriate wire here and like I said I had already fed it this is my home run so I'm going to get a little bit here get it into the wall all right now this is kind of where the magic happens so to speak you watch this and this wire will lay down and go right in right in here and uh I got to put it in the Box real quick so so she can go in there and oh see I didn't pay attention to where the Box penetrations were I thought they would be right on the edge there we are okay now the cool part I'm not ready yet because I got to run the other wire in here but when I am I will just take some foam and I'll jam it around into places to hold it in place then I'll foam it in and it's locked in as tight as anything you'll ever want to see so the cool part you can use these are blunt enough you can push them you push your wire back in with those let me come real close to you see how far back in there that is and the cool part you can see right up in here where we have a web if you were to try to screw and you were unfortunate enough to put a screw right where the wire is first off you're using one and a quarter one and five eighths screws typically to put drywall up even if you hit right there now there's no web it's gone so it would be just like missing the stud altogether the screw would just it would have nothing to pull it into that wire even if it was long enough but you see you'd have to be over two inches long to even touch that wire so it's generally safer than any wire in a stud wall that could be you know looped a little closer to the sheetrock and everything so I'll put this thing on time lapse and go ahead and wire the rest of this I'm also going to pull that uh the uh the other home run over to the bidet and do the do the bathroom home and then try to land all my home runs today get my panel put together but after I do this one we'll talk for a second then I'll take you down to the basement and show you kind of how we do the ceiling cans in light deck okay okay guys so I'm not quite done running them but I want to show you guys some stuff with the panels so you can see what you end up with you kind of just get it situated perfectly square like I said I put in a little pieces of Romex and foam to hold it and then I just simply uh put the foam around it okay and go under okay and then I just fill in trying to do this while I'm shooting the videos kind of fun but anyway we're just going to and I'm going it's very my foam is cold too so it's not going as fast as it normally would be see I'm holding that wires pushed all the way back in there and this is going to expand out and hold it where it can't move so there's your sheetrock right over that you're golden all right you see I've uh I've got a little 20 amp circuit running around here in the basement and this one wall here is furred out and the reason I did that is because I want the panel you just sort of see it's effectively sticking out just real flush with the wall so once they drywall the little Mount right to it and it'll be nice and tight the panels are like three and a half inches thick they're like the thickness of a stud and you can see the knockout at the Top If I tried to place that inside the ICF It generally won't it'll be sticking out you know a little bit past and you know any kind of conduit this is coming in for it's an offset service so um the one that I'm doing in my garage won't be offset the lb will come in right at the bottom of it um but I'll take you out there real quick and show you the difference of how that looks and why if you're designing an equipment room if it's in the garage you're probably stud walls anyway but if you're in your basement just try to you know accompa you know account for that extra four inches and just for the wall out just on that one wall where the equipment or the panel is going and makes your life a ton easier Okay so this is the basement or the crawl space as it is because I obviously only have a very steep way out here and I'm gonna have a very tight spiral that doesn't meet code here so it can't technically be a basement I'm not supposed to have any amenities down here um so it's just a crawl space with equipment got some of my eye you know what I mean um but anyways I'm putting can lights in the light neck um and just like upstairs we're using the chainsaw to cut a Groove that nicely holds the the Romex in place um and then I just have to cut out a spot big enough for for the uh for the Halo can and uh I'm just simply taking the nail bars out because they don't really go anywhere so I'm this is actually my last one I have six cans going in here I'll show you just how they temporarily look with just a regular uh LED bulb in there but that'll be what I work under right now I'm using the big DeWalt Tower but I can't wait to get off batteries and actually have a hard wired light well the time lapse cut off but you can at least get a feel for kind of you just kind of carve in do what you got to do I'd say a can light's got to be about the biggest pain they make a lot of easier um even disc lights you know little puck lights that look just like a can but you mount them into a gang box which is much much easier because even these can lights required me to carve through the light deck and into the four inch cap to get them to clear which is way more than almost any other light I just so happen to have the Halos and wanted to make use of them so I'll keep going with the wiring just show you as much as I can this week on that and then I'm also going to show you next week siding on on uh on the on ICF on the outside so kind of showing you guys some uh you know less high-end finishes than we're used to on this channel and just kind of showing you how you know di wires and whatever might you know apply these finishes to an ICF project okay guys so I just wanted to bring you here I got this all prepped for my electricians coming on Monday we do have to uh core a hole right where this knockout is at the bottom to bring in our service from outside but you can see what happens when you stick this in it's kind of nice because you know most of these panels are made to go between a 16 inch Center stud wall so our webs being on six or 12 inch centers you end up having to just remove one web and uh one thing I was pretty happy about is this concrete is like looks really good you know there's there's no voids at all in it so um that's that's a testament to my boys and uh the concrete plant but still anyway so what I have to do here you see how much room over here it's about an inch and a half sticking out which makes all these Knockouts up here kind of out into the the world so what I'm going to do is I'm just going to have a gutter made up here so that it's basically extend the Box up to where I can get all my wires in because I don't want to have to fur out a 30 foot long 10 or 12 foot high wall in my garage and just and lose the space and just have to deal with it I could I mean it's an inch and a half I could just slap two by fours on their side again it's more money whatever I don't care to have this sticking out a little bit I'll probably have like pegboard on you know different stuff on the wall anyway in the shop it doesn't matter so much but just understand that that is why I'm telling you to fur out the walls if you can um you know because you've got this this issue if not
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Channel: Cutting Edge Homes !
Views: 38,825
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Keywords: 春田, 斯普林菲尔德, 密苏里, 投资, 买房, springfield mo, builder, cutting edge homes, cutting edge pools, icf, insulated concrete forms, icf pools, fox block, build block, amvic, nudura, rost redimix, electrical, icf wiring, wiring, diy, do it yourself, lite deck
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Length: 16min 54sec (1014 seconds)
Published: Sun Dec 04 2022
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