Will this 60yr OLD V12 2 STROKE Detroit Dump Truck START & DRIVE out of this Quarry?

good day I'm Bruce in this video I'm going to try and get this 60-year-old Webco dump truck to drive out of this Quarry this is a truck this is Wally Webco and Wally Webco is fitted with a V12 two-stroke Detroit Diesel 4 125 horsepower here's the name up here willly Webco this will be the third video in a series on this truck in the previous videos we went through a lot of things and the first thing we did was to unseize the injector is in this truck so it didn't over rev we've changed out this hydraulic hose down here on the bottom which is the main hose that's coming from the pump main pressure hose and we've also changed this hydraulic hose up here which has G to the power steering box engine's been checked engine oil has been checked and topped up radiator has been checked and topped up we fixed an issue with a seized idler on the motor we've had a good look at the brakes we've had the motor running and we did get the truck to move but the brakes were stuck hard on when we did get the motor running it just would not build up any air pressure at all we found a fairly major air leak in the air tank and we've had that addressed now once we addressed the air leak in the air tank then we had more air leaks up under the dash we had an air leak right at um right at foot level where that hose goes onto a fitting which is actually welded on the other side of the floor on the bottom side of the floor and we had to fix that up with with like a two-part epoxy to stop that air Leake the gears were seized in reverse and we've unseized them now still pretty stiff but they do work it's in the neutral position we' freed up the throttle and the stopper so they can be worked from inside the cab when we first checked the transmission the oil was full and it looked like it was fairly clean but by the time we drove backwards and forwards a couple of times and then we rechecked the oil just to mainly checking the level we could see the oil was quite dirty so today we're going to drain that transmission oil and try and put some new filters on and some new oil if we're going to try and drive it down the track here A bit down the road and back and then drive it on the back of a float we want to know that transmission oil is clean we don't want to do any damage in there because it's got all the oil or moisture in the oil or whatever before we left last time we drained out a 20 L drum of oil and then we thought well we might as well just leave another drum underneath it see how much we could actually let it drain out so we ended up with about another half or 20 L drum so we've got one complete drum and a half a 20 L drum of oil that's what's com out of it we'll take that away now and we'll probably drop that off at the oil recycle place this is the filter assembly here for the transmission just over here so I'll give them a clean up pretty awkward to get to second one's really awkward I'm going to try and get around underneath it if I can if I can wrap the rag around it and whether I can actually fit yeah I might be able to get it so I can get the rag to go in underneath it just going to wire brush around the edge of where the canister goes onto the housing now it's it's easier to do now than what it will be after the filter's pulled off I'll will probably get compressed there and run around there too I'd like to get this spotlessly clean we've got a couple of new filters but I'm not sure whether they're actually the right ones or not that means we might have to reuse these filters give them a wash out in diesel or something and then try and put them back in if we if we really have to there's the FI cap pretty awkward place to get it might need some big vice grips or stons or something to get around its neck that was pretty lucky I'd reckon I re that would be very lucky that that came undone that easy a bit of wipe around there there some something up above there I'll give that a bit of a wipe too otherwise once I take the cap off all that junk from those whatever they are gear cables or hoses not sure I just want to make sure it was loose now because once I take those o fillers undone around here might be quite oily so I thought I'll do that now rather than later when everything's dripping with oil so it's done another little job trying to keep the dirt out it I'm just going to pull a screen out and I'm pretty sure the screen will be in behind here when I say screen I mean strainer that's normally what they like a on a machine like this is probably metal probably a metal strainer and um that's a bit of a trap too if you just change the filters up there and they can be heap of rubbish sitting on the screen down here the transmission could be starving to get oil because it can't get through the screen so this is the first line of protection is the the mesh screen and then then like the filtration is done with with cartridge filters up the top I've got my rattle gun with me today so it make the job a bit easier [Music] [Music] it's always a good idea to remember which way that went on because we haven't got the gear out here to make a new gasket or we haven't got any new gaskets with us so we I've just got to remember that where that's dented underneath there that's got to go back at the lowest point I think I'm going to need a screwdriver to PR that off does have a little bolt in the middle which probably helps hold the screen onto the backing plate get somewhere where I can get a Toe Hold maybe around here again where I was I don't know what sort of glue they use but if it's moving it's very slowly maybe it's just a screwdriver slipping here we go patience is the name of the game what are we going to say here we are from machine that size it looks pretty damn good I've seen a lot worse than that as you can see the oils looks like it's got moisture or water in it at some stage that's a bit unusual this filter is filtering from the inside out look at the junk coming out of the inside so here I am looking at the outside of the screen because most things filter from the outside in the reason they do that most oil filters um there's more area usually on the outside than what there is on the inside so that's why they normally suck from the outside in but it's something that needed done look at that muck can't actually tell what it is but I don't like the look of it so we'll have to give that a good wash out with some diesel or whatever so you can see some of these things are well worth well worth checking especially if you want the machine to last go for a bit longer or you know everything to work properly it's a bit like the one man said on my channel he said if you change the oil in the engine he said that engine will last twice as long yeah I'd agree with that especially with all oil in there but we're not going to change it out here in the field if we can get it back to our place we'll certainly change the oil in the filter if any moisture gets into the system and not being started and circulated the water and everything will always be laying on the bottom so in a case like this you're checking the oil level up at the top so the oil can look quite clean course the oil can settle out over 20 years or whatever the thing would have been sitting too if there's any sludging in the level go to the bottom the other thing we could have done when we first checked the oil we could have probably taken this bung out I'll just sit that there so it can drain a bit more yeah we probably should have pulled this bung out first up just to see whether there was water laying on the bottom that's another way you can do it but I suppose we're in a bit of a hurry and thought well we'll just push on and see if we can get all these other things working and see if it will go before we start to do things like this because you really don't know what you what what you're dealing with until you get the motor running that's usually somewhere to start it's a bit of a weird looking filter I can't get a good look at what's in there but that's probably the bulk of it that's come out there now but that's pretty standard any of these big transmissions on in this big machine you will have some sort of a strainer I suppose it's a bit like a bit like car engines diesel engines they always have some sort of a screen strainer usually made of metal in the bottom of the sump or at the lowest point and uh that basically just stops the gravel from going through and reckon the oil pump or more delicate pieces there's bits of all sorts of rubbish in here bits of old gasket and we don't know whether some of that could have come off the inside of rubber hoses has a couple of big rubber hoses running to the cooler up the front a lot of it I can break it up so I'm not sure what it is but it could be an old the old hose is starting to starting to Decay but strainer has certainly done a good job I've got diesel here now so I'm going pull some diesel through there this is just to start with the next move is to undo this little bolt there a little bolt there and a little bolt here this assembly will all come apart and it'll make it a lot easier to clean and I suspect it's got a magnet in the middle there too which is a really good idea I'll do it over here if I drop any bits how's that for some metal hunks of rust there's all sorts of junk sitting on there but that's a good idea that is a really good idea and that catches anything that wears badly just go straight on that magnet doesn't get recirculated through any pumps or whatever now is when I wish I was at home with a gurnie I could just blast all that and have it clean in two shakes of a dog's tail that shar's got three magnets in it I'm going to try and clean the inside if you look inside here this would have been the part on the bottom on the lowest part you'll be able to see the put some pieces of junk in there somehow we got to try and get rid of them so I'm going to use some brake clean here run over some brake clean we need something to make it let go my toothbrush is um too short right now we go from that to this we need more air have a look in there there you can see it's starting to loosen it up turn it around trouble is I'm sort of blowing it from one side to the other but if we can put some more braid clean on it that'll probably dry it up a bit um while that's pumping back up I'll go and try pouring some more diesel over it I know this is already dirty but I'll pour the bit cleaner stuff off the top if it's loose now that'll help get rid of a bit more out of the out of the filter yeah it is starting to chase it down right it in a bit more air you can see it's starting to come clean but it's not perfectly clean it looks better on the outside than what it does from the inside but if I can keep hitting it with a bit more compressed air and probably a bit more brake clean the brake clean might break down that old rubbish whatever it is and um we're just doing the best with what we've got I'm afraid the Diesel's looking pretty dirty now so I'll put that in our can and we'll recycle it with the old oil so I'll just stir up the gravel on the bottom a bit here in now for I'm going to try and get the dirt off that end plate but my brush is too short so this is what I'm going to do I'm going to shove this bit of hose on the end here on the old brush that might just give me a little bit more room to be able to get in there and all right now I can get in there and work that brush I wonder whether Allison had a special brush for cleaning these things out maybe they did back when they made things to last then it looks like that idea might have worked how to extend a brush certainly loosen it up some more brake [Laughter] clean it's not perfectly clean but it's coming cleaner well everything's cleaned up now we just got to screw that Rod back into the center I've got that nice and clean there now if you can see down the center which I thought was going to be pretty hard to do that's magnetic there as you can see to catch all the metal very well made I don't I'm going to screw that back on the magnet that strong H it's probably meant to have a piece of sponge or something around the outside to keep it away from the metal push it down onto the onto the stud and then tighten it up I'd say there we again we need something on here that's a bit bigger and a bit longer there to be Superman to get that to go over the center cuz it's sticking to the edges big time this was the trick we had to wrap this rag around up this end with a piece of insulation tape and after much messing around to try and get it centralized so we can get on the end of that bolt cuz that bolt must be silver solded in there or something it will not Come Undone I didn't want to snap it off so this is what we did we got the pull those pliers we pull that back out so that's the piece we had wrapped around it to try and get it near Center so we could get this bit started this piece in the in the middle here has three strong magnets in it and every time you went to tighten it up it' just be the moment you put it inside there'd be bang straight on the side of the cage so that's why we had to put that around it to keep it off the cage and even that should have been a bit fatter so it was still quite difficult to get that in there and get it started this is going to be the next part you can see how magnetic it is I can hardly pull that off it and that will hold a magnet dead center magnet that strong can hardly move that I guess I'll just tighten it up little bit by little bit see how it's going to go I think if the bits fell off they wouldn't go too far because of the magnet I know one time I was working on a 30ton Moxy that my friend Shane owned and um it was going to have a paint job so while a hydraulic tank and all these bits and pieces were pulled off it I said to him there's no magnets in this machine he said what do you reckon I said I'll get some speaker magnets drove a chisel in behind them got the magnets off the back of the speakers and we sat these magnets around inside the 30 ton Moxy inside the hydraulic tank so as the oil came back in if there was any bits of metal and anything bang it go straight on those magnets so I don't know where that 30 ton Moxy ever ended up but right that's about the limit for those little tiny bolts and obviously there's no gasket on here to speak of but so the gasket must have still been still been stuck to the thing remember we got our little witness Marks here from where it's been driving over rocks on the Quarry that's at the bottom so we know which way it's going to go back on and I will try and clean out the rest of the bottom of the transmission I'm just going to get a rag and try and mop some of that old oil out the bottom of that transmission right here we go Dr a bit soup out right over we're going to give these threads here a bit of a clean it PR dirty I'm just going to put a bit of grease on the gasket and that way it might be stuck on there so hard for the next person to try and pull it off look at it in there you can actually see through it all the way that's got to slide into a hole I'll put a bit more grease over on this part here if I put it back in the same place I hope it'll seal up most times you can get away with the sort of these sort of things even though the textbook would probably say you can't do that that won't be any good we've got two bolts these two bolts here are shorter than the rest so and I just have to see which holes are the same length same length same length same length same length same length doesn't matter it's always a good idea to check how deep the holes are so we know they're the same we can put this back in there now with that down the bottom that's how it was with the dent there some of these were fairly tight so not quite sure which ones were we right I'll go back to my rattle gun I think I'll just get them all started with a bit of Grease I just check them all by hand they all going onto a 10 plate so anywhere I see 10 plates I think well you can't overtighten then Buckle the plate and when the plates Buckle then it'll probably leak so sometimes it's better just to do these things up by hand you get a better feel or I do anyway I'm old school you have like that inboard inbuilt tension wrench to get an idea whether they're all the same modern day people are probably doing that with how many blips they give on the impact gun right that's done there we are not the easiest thing to get started that's about it all well we got had Diesel and rubbish mix here just tip that into there and go to the recycle and I'll probably turn it back into bright fresh new oil again right ready for the ones up the top oh yeah just pull the exhaust apart right I wonder there's so much noise and smoke the exhaust is just sitting okay I'm just going to check my bucket is underneath should be in about the right position there I reckon everything's big feels like it's got a pretty big spring inside there some long threads but sometimes they got to be like that because it'll have a big spring in the bottom of the I think that was it then have a big spring on the bottom of the cartridge to push it up so it seals off yep getting close right hey guys me glove doesn't matter one down and one to go this one's further away right come off yep went bang got my glove again look at that got my finger that time too certainly got moisture in the oil that's for sure that would have been the Lower Side there see where the sludge and that settle on the Lower Side see how these other well look at that it's been that dry the top house has been dry it's only gone Rusty it's been sitting there for that many years dry that's on the bottom where the where the sludge is and there not too bad but I thought the fillers would have been worse than that especially when the stuff that came out the bottom all right sit that there and let it drain we've got our new filters here now now even though these two did come under different part numbers but from what we can gather maybe this one here might have been a hydraulic filter this one here might have been an engine oil filter that part probably is the same but maybe where they go on the housings that part might have been different but most importantly whole diameter is the same uh the length is the same so we're pretty sure they should work we'll probably change these filters again when we get home but at the moment this will give us the best possible chance to be able to drive on that flight without any trouble we hope here we go see if I can get in there get that lined up I think it had the dirty so up so I'll try and put it back the same way it came off see if I can jiggle around a little bit as it's going on getting pretty tight there now that's it that's the end of the the end of the line right one to go that cardboard is not quite Center don't like that that one's the same rodo doesn't matter which way that goes in now we're going to put some oil on the end here with some Grease We put some grease on that I'll try and put some oil in here too put a bit of Grease around on these might help them go into position a bit easier that into there put the grease around the end here right on she goes a bit of a hit and Mis job here to get started because you can't really can't really see what's going on might have been begin's luck with the other one I think on there we are feels about where it was sitting that's about the easiest part there to move it round I probably should have checked the other one like that too little wle to make sure they they're not chewing the seals up when we put them together ring around holding up a bit Square that's it tighten up that spin a bit that's the end of the travel this is the last of the oil from under the truck let set that land let that drain down nice clean oil we've got to give W the best chance this is the second drum and we reckon we've got about 30 or 40 lers out so I've got this um I've got this tap pull out now that was blocked up with dirt so that will actually show us when the transmission's full but then of course the tourque converter and the hoses and the cooler and everything is probably will probably still be empty so we're going to need more oil than when it says full here we'll have to whack extra oil in as well or start it get the oil circulating in turn it off and then recheck the oil level in which will probably be a few bit lower and someone left a message the other day on my channel saying about what sort of oil pump was it it's a mnau made in Australia MCN got written on the side here just looking at it now you just reminded me this is our oil level tap here over here I just clean the dirt out of it and it's saying there now that it has got enough oil in it see all starting to run out there now so we'll say but because it's full there the T converter could be half empty the cooler could be half empty the filters up above we know they're empty so we need to put more oil in it's got to be above full we'll probably start it and stop it and do another check after the oil's going into all those different places that would be empty there now so we'll probably put 40 l is in it and I can't see It'll Do any harm if it is a little bit above full so we'll pump the rest of this drum in must be nearly 40 l well there's 40 L there's the sort of pump we're using it's a mnau pump built in Australia I'm just going to check the water again yeah the water's above the Coes I have got some more water there I wonder should I pour a bit more in right yeah we're going to pour some water in the water was above the cuse already but we've got it there so I suppose we'll put it in I'll just leave that cap loose so I can't build up any pressure don't think it can do any harm [Music] it'll take the lid right off out the way out this will be the third top up with fuel and it's also had fuel doctor and some two-stroke oil as well try and lubricate everything up there that could be pretty dry that's about it big lid back on right the start button in the cab doesn't work so we've got a hot wire here we'll just hook straight onto the onto the Rel or the Sol on the starter motor and go from [Music] there they're all rusted up so when they be able to get them I don't think they'd probably just snap might be worse off something there's drawn a bit of current probably the probably the diads and the alternator all right we're getting pretty close to seeing if this thing's going to really drive now but we noticed there's a crack in this tire and this tire is down a bit so we've got this adapter here most of these bigger outfits have got bigger bigger valve stems on them so we've got this adapter here to reduce this back so we're going to see if we can put some more more air in that tire build the pressure up a bit so the so the crack won't be so strained I suppose we'll say when things going round and round right we right we're going to see where it's going to start yeah it looks like we are building air pressure so that's a good sign we might be able to release the brakes propably this time sh [Music] [Music] [Music] yeah oh [Music] go oh he [Music] [Music] [Music] oh well men must have been tough when they drive things like this the heat inside the cab the noise I don't know how they would have put 8 hours in driving something like this with that sort of a noise coming out all the time and the Heat's just unbelievable he come up through the floor really hot to ride in but yeah what an experience eh looks like the gears in it worked we've still got a bit of an oil Le there somewhere and a bit of an aake but was good enough to get down the road I was very cautious turning around because we have had some rain I thought if I get off the road here and this thing get stuck we're in big trouble so that's why I had to just raise the blade backwards and forwards until I got turned around to come back the other direction I'm sure the brakes are releasing now especially the handbrake the handbrake um is like a big drum on the pinion on the back diff and you can hear you can basically hear it you can basically feel it too once you move that air lever across on the dash you can feel it sort of just moves a bit so that's a sign that's letting go and it is um building air pressure up to about 100 PSI now that proves that will will start and drive and I could drive it back down onto level ground back down near that Gateway so it could be loaded onto a float I'm really up against it working out on the field here so I'll probably say that's it for this video and it's been a terrific Adventure getting well going again a lot of people have been asking what the plans are for this truck well if I can get it back to my place I might be able to do some more work on the brakes and I might be able to make another couple of videos on on fixing Wally up a bit more that'll be it for this video until next time thanks very much for watching

Channel: Bruce In AUS

Views: 608,862

Keywords: Heavy equipment, Engines, Trucks, Tractors, Supercharged, Muscle cars, Detroit diesel, Supercharged 2 stroke, Dump truck, Mining truck, Mining

Id: u4jy-4635Pg

Length: 55min 7sec (3307 seconds)

Published: Wed Dec 06 2023