When The Killer Doesn't Realize What He's Done

when two teenagers were found brutally murdered behind a Publix the community of Roswell Georgia was shaken to its core the two victims were loved by everyone who knew them and the police were desperate to find the person responsible for their deaths little did they know that their murderer was more deranged and twisted than they could have imagined they talk to me on August 1st 2016 a delivery driver was making a standard early morning delivery to Publix when he noticed something that would haunt him for the rest of his life two teenagers were lying naked and Dead behind the storm each one had a singular gunshot wound to the head and had been positioned near their parked cars the police were quick to show up on the scene and were soon met by some anxious parents whose children hadn't returned last night with the help of the parents the police were able to identify the two victims as Natalie Henderson and Carter Davis both just 17 years old and preparing to go into their final year of high school from what the police could gather both teenagers were incredibly outgoing kind and well-loved none of their friends or family could think of anyone who wanted to hurt the two leaving police searching for any lead as to who their mysterious killer might be but they weren't left without any clues for long using the security footage from neighboring businesses the police were able to see that their suspect was a young dark-haired man who appeared to be wearing some sort of wide mask in the footage the two teens could be seen spending time together while their assailants secretly stalked them from behind a nearby electrical box after watching the couple for some time the mysterious man confronted them and ultimately shot the two while this evidence was definitely a step in the right direction it still wasn't enough to positively ID the killer the next big break for the police came in the form of Natalie Henderson's bank statements as officers realized her credit card had been used at a nearby Flash Foods gas station several minutes after her death after checking the security footage at the gas station officers were able to get enough details on the Killer's car to trace it to a 20-year-old man named Jeffrey Hazelwood after tailing Jeffrey for some time police officers found him acting erratically outside of a gas station and they made the decision to detain him what did you do that but she didn't do this what happened but I didn't do anything what's going on the police began the long and arduous task of questioning him and those closest to him and in the following never before seen footage we'll watch as they discover the horrifying truth behind the two teens murders after arriving at the station for questioning Jeffrey is brought to an interrogation room and left on his own for 20 minutes just a minute okay you okay during this time he can be heard talking to himself and experiencing ticks in his hands the ticks in Jeffrey's hands could be the result of several things but is likely an external sign of the extreme anxiety he's experiencing the fact that Jeffrey is in a fetal position in his chair is another sign that he's under emotional duress as that position is believed to bring comfort and a sense of safety additionally Jeffrey may be talking to himself as a way of soothing his anxiety and fear at this point Jeffrey is still claiming to have no clue why he was detained and it's time for detective Bennett to step into the room and figure out what exactly Jeffrey is hiding you're okay okay everything everything went well first but before the family to joined the hell okay I like to do anything okay as Bennett walks into the room she immediately picks up on Jeffrey's discomfort and tries to calm him down Jeffrey's confusion shaking and anxiety are all signs of a psychotic episode and detective Bennett is more than aware of this she speaks to him in a manner similar to how someone would speak to a child in an attempt to keep him as calm and Cooperative as possible in his fragile state in order to continue building rapport with him detective Bennett gathers some background information on his wife okay so you guys don't have the same last names [ __ ] our religion okay okay oh my God how how are things going with guilty you said you said at the very beginning of us talking that things weren't going very well do you want to talk to me about that what's going on with her what's the matter yeah it's evident that Jeffrey is incredibly upset at the idea of losing his wife or fighting with her detective Bennett soon learns that Kelsey is Jeffrey's only positive relationship after explaining that he was taken from his mother and given to his grandparents when he was only 18 months old he goes more in depth about the kind of relationship he alleges he has with them it's important to note that there's no evidence of any of Jeffrey's claims being true and are instead his version of what happened Jeffrey paints a very disturbing picture of his childhood emotional and physical abuse especially when inflicted at such a young age can often trigger mental health disorders and this alleged abuse could explain the anxious ticks we see Jeffrey experiencing while Jeffrey talks to detective Bennett about his life his wife Kelsey is being brought in for questioning alongside her mom it's odd that Kelsey's mother is allowed in the interview room with her given that she isn't underage but the police reports reveal that she was there because Kelsey is hard of hearing and is also prone to having seizures it's important to note that if she is significantly hard of hearing this also impacts her body language individuals with hearing problems will not be able to modulate the tone or volume of their voice as effectively as a standard hearing individual additionally she used sign language as a child she may talk more with her hands in even typical conversations [Music] with a few simple questions the detective learns the calcium Jeffrey have been dating for around five months that's a seemingly short amount of time to date before getting married legally or otherwise [Music] he has with her I I really don't know much about the boy at all based on her tone and the fact that she only refers to Jeffrey as the boy it's clear that Kelsey's mom doesn't approve of their relationship wanting to find out more about who Jeffrey is in his daily life the officer asked Kelsey about his religious beliefs that the person mentioned like what makes about like spirit animals and that sort of stuff that he believed in that sort of stuff and that's do you have one or was it do you two of them all right um with the Hawks I won't say every time when he felt safe he just woke up in Antioch I understand Hawks and wolves are both predatory animals which may give some insight to the officer as Jeffrey essentially preyed on his two victims Kelsey also mentions that Jeffrey Feld Hawks were protecting him which could indicate that he may struggle with feeling unsafe or threatened in the world now that Kelsey has warmed up to the officer he begins asking more pointed questions know for the fact that sometimes he carries weapons with them prior to at least have you ever seen him carrying a firearm or have them in the car alone it doesn't appear that Kelsey is lying when she answers this question meaning that she likely has no knowledge of Jeffrey's recent crimes so we have it's a pretty high stroke you said take the high straw like is he nervous is he fidget New Year Kelsey interrupts the question before the officer can finish even if she doesn't know anything about the murders it seems as though she might be lying about other aspects of his life this claim from Kelsey directly contradicts how we see Jeffrey acting in his own interrogation meaning Kelsey is either purposefully lying or doesn't know her husband as well as she might think this isn't our only sign that Kelsey may know more than she's Lighting on um right after answering the officer's question Kelsey can be seen glancing up at the camera indicating that she may have not been truthful and is thinking about the fact that her lies are being recorded even more important than glancing at the camera her foot starts bouncing indicating a likely increase in anxiety and her nose appears Twitchy which can often indicate anxiety as fight or fly causes the nose to become engorged and itchy also despite appearances she is still quite closed off her arm is crossed and a barrier across her body legs tightly crossed with ankles close to each other and close to her body overall still sustaining closed off body language when officers are looking for signs of deception there is no one cue that tells them that an individual is lying his cues can happen for different reasons however as they add up and turn into cluster signs of anxiety the officers will hone in on this and push a bit harder to see if the individual will crack and tell the truth or share what they're holding back where is it fine for our investigation because they just tell them where it's at it's in my room unless there's a warrant specific to her phone she is under no obligation to hand it over for investigation the fourth amendment protects digital devices including phones and laptops from search and seizure so she is well within her rights to question this and to ultimately refuse pictures [Music] [Music] most younger people are extremely hesitant to hand over their their phones to anyone law enforcement included and younger people are more likely to be suspicious of law enforcement in general Kelsey may see her phone as something that is private and personal so it's a violation of her right to privacy to have law enforcement go through it however exercising your rights is very much black and white you either exercise them or you don't there is a little gray area once you surrender a right to privacy in something it's virtually impossible to claw back [Music] that makes me very um if you want to wait outside with the other officer you can stay close and then we'll we'll bring you back in back with Jeffrey detective Bennett begins establishing a timeline for the past few days the timeline starts out very normal with Jeffrey talking about spending most of his weekend either working or hanging out with Kelsey after leaving Kelsey's house early Monday morning Jeffrey stopped by his grandparents house to grab a few things before going to a nearby park where he slept in his car Jeffrey's timeline seems to check out with the detective until he mentions something incredibly strange he found while getting gas on the way to the park I started at once um before I got to the park uh I found something really interesting what it's weird and I like them at all what is it again okay at that quick trip right there on every Road the story about finding a gun behind a gas station is hard to believe it's likely that Jeffrey obtained the gun in another way but doesn't want to admit it it was black and it was one of the really short ones okay like one that you're holding your hand or one that you prop on your shoulder like one of the you know ones but not that big no okay um you know Call of Duty okay so more like um because it was black right so did it have the spinning wheel thing on the side or the top of that slide back the top it pinched me okay how how did you pinch yourself how did that happen they got infected I was playing with it didn't it it's like it it went forward really fast too much oh okay so you've got your pinky to stuck in the little sliding part on the top holy cow I bet did it bleed it did but it's more infected right now oh while discussing the gun Jeffrey uses a lighter more childlike tone as a way of making this whole story sound more innocent as well as what sounds like an unusual accent using that childlike tone as a way for him to avoid answering questions and to avoid the seriousness of what's going on he didn't always speak that way only sometimes which indicates that he might be being evasive and deceptive and trying to avoid the question he also focuses on how the gun injured him in order to present himself as the victim and to distract detective Bennett from assuming he had any ill intent with the weapon although she likely doesn't believe his story detective Bennett is making sure to appear empathetic to Jeffrey's extremely minor injury by coming across as warm and understanding she's able to build up a rapport with them and get him to readily answer her questions he likely would shut down if detective Bennett raised her voice or argued with him although she's doing a good job of appearing empathetic and understanding it's clear something is wrong with Jeffrey have you left your house and headed for Grandma's house so at that point um we had a crime happen here in Roswell that I've heard about it the next day from her mom that's horrible okay okay even more move up there's nothing with that much important yeah but you still had to drive by the location where the incident happened it is yeah I have your car on video driving by the infinite location I have you pulling into the parking lot where the incident occurred how are you getting out of your car I'm walking around a little bit as you're walking towards where the incident occurred and I have you on video where the incident occurred oh Tommy why you were there when that happened I'm scared to say something okay [Music] okay okay tell me what you saw [Music] as detective Bennett gets more and more information out of Jeffrey we see him revert back into the fetal position he was in at the beginning of the interrogation you'll notice that Jeffrey loosens up when they're talking about less stressful things he also once again changes his voice to sound high pitched it's clear that he's panicking to work please okay at what point in time did you go to the Flash Foods the gas station I can't remember this gas stations have video cameras yes I know what kind of car you drive I have you on video and your car at the gas station across the street from your job at what point did you go to the gas station the laser while it's obvious that Jeffrey was caught lying about going to the gas station it can be hard to determine if he is intentionally lying since he appears to be in the midst of a psychotic episode while Jeffrey may be able to effectively communicate with the detective during this episode that doesn't mean he's in his right mind despite this detective Bennett questions Jeffrey about the murder weapon and the lies continue to add up okay because the employees hang out on the QT and that's where it's not their cigarettes and take their breaks there's a gun playing with bullets in a bag in a cave I'm pretty sure that one of the employees would have been able to see it it's lit back there it is but how did you know a handgun in a bag with bullets in a case you don't think they would have seen it where'd the gun come from the more detective Bennett questions Jeffrey about his actions after finding the bodies the more Tangled he gets in his own conflicting stories detective Bennett has made it clear that she doesn't believe Jeffrey's story about finding the murder weapon What Jeffrey doesn't know is that detective Bennett already knows the real story behind how he got the weapon on Monday afternoon less than 12 hours after the murders had taken place Jeffrey's grandfather reported that his Sig Sauer pistol had been stolen and the description of that gun matched the one Jeffrey claimed to find behind the gas station we already talked about the gun I think that everything dishonest about where it came from so when I go and get the video from behind QuikTrip on the night you said you found the gun you're going to be picking up a bag taking the gun out cracking the slide talking a bullet out taking the bullet up putting it back in the magazine putting it back in the gun and then stick it into your trunk put it in a bag in the back of your car except for the way that it happened what do you think so here detective Bennett is using something known as a bait question if Jeffrey is being honest about how he obtained the gun then he should be confident that the security footage will confirm he found the gun behind the gas station however he gave a weak and non-committal response to the question confirming that he's being deceptive about where he got the gun you don't know his name whose name whose name okay the guy you gave it to so yeah you gave what to attract okay [Music] [Music] we didn't find it a week ago he told me you found it on Sunday night it's only two Wednesday foreign it's clear that Jeffrey has some confusion surrounding dates and times likely caused by his psychotic episode however the police now have a new lead to investigate in the form of this mysterious mat determined to get the whole truth from Jeffrey detective Bennett tries one last technique before ending the interrogation she pulls out photos of the victims taken at the crime scene and forces Jeffrey to face his actions what if somebody did this to Kelsey if this was Chelsea's picture and they shot her and they laid her out naked on the ground and they spread her legs open and they touched her what happens to that person that does that you wouldn't like it what would you do to that person what should I do to that person as a police officer what should happen to that person what is that that I want you to look at her spoken to her in the daylight you didn't get to see her in the daylight this is a technique known as a punishment question someone who's being honest is more likely to respond with a strong punishment that fits the crime whereas a guilty individual may try to dodge the question or suggest a lesser punishment in Jeffrey's case he appears to be highly distressed and unable to suggest anything other than bad realizing that Jeffrey is too upset to give any more useful information detective Bennett ends the interrogation with Jeffrey's interrogation completed all eyes are on calcium a new detective comes into her room to continue her interview I really don't think that you've done anything wrong okay but I think you know a lot more information than you tell us and I'm just being honest with you and here's what I'm going to say to you you're a young lady you got your life ahead of you okay I want you to be able to be open with me you're not under arrest you understand you've been helping us I have no reason to believe that you're nothing more than helping us but I can't later find out something happened or that you knew of something and you didn't tell me do you understand that then you're culpable and you're accountable oh thank you you're welcome something to me it's kind of personal like Verizon thank you betray it I don't like the train people that went I understand Kelsey knows that revealing intimate details about Jeffrey such as his mental and emotional problems could incriminate him it seems that she may need more confirmation about the severity of Jeffrey's actions before she's comfortable giving details additionally Kelsey clearly doesn't understand what the detective is implying when he tells her that she is culpable and accountable she appears to take it as a compliment when actually he's saying that if he finds out she's hiding something she'll be held accountable by the law and possibly face legal consequences the detective should take a moment here to explain a statement he should also use caution going forward and make sure that he explicitly says what he means in simple terms so that he can be sure Kelsey understands has he given you or told you about anything that he's done recently that would be in your eyes shocking [Music] all right so here's what the deal is you know I told you they sent me all those Family Tools you just lied to me no again okay okay let's not just look away and I can't describe everything I've been doing this for a long time okay all I can tell you is I'm trying to remove you from any kind of Association if you if you give me deception and I know you're lying to me then I have no alternative than to put you over here as opposed to over here we know that it's a common misconception that eye contact is indicative of honesty however people will typically look to the side periodically as they're considering what is being said or how to best respond to something this is all a normal part of honest Communication in fact sustained eye contact can often mean the opposite as individuals are being deceptive will maintain eye contact in order to thoroughly search the person's face for signs of belief or disbelief so they can quickly adjust their story to fit the reactions of the individual they're trying to manipulate Kelsey could also have looked to the side because she's hard of hearing and is trying to figure out what the detective said or even his thinking I've kept you over here listen you're trying to convince me now okay when was that um [Music] for a while couldn't remember anything about a week okay I know okay okay what did you call rescue attempts to take one's own life for a major red flag of a number of mental health disorders including an active psychotic episode it's a clear sign that Jeffrey's mental state was rapidly decompensating this information also gives insight into the nature of Kelsey and Jeffrey's relationship it appears that Kelsey takes on a caregiver role as evidenced by the fact that she revived him three times and helped keep the attempt a secret so that she could treat the issues herself romantic Partners will often take on this caregiver role when they want to hang on to a relationship while their partner is struggling with something that could threaten the relationship such as Jeffrey's erratic Behavior Kelsey may also enjoy the feeling of usefulness and being needed that she gets from having Jeffrey be dependent on her you're safe here this is a safer this is a safe space I've told you if you tell me the truth because later if I find out something different it's a different and I don't call you anymore I don't talk to you anymore I'm trying to I'm trying to put you over here I'm sorry you had to see that I know it bothered you right did it bother you to see him like that so now they were bothering me too but at the end of at the end of the day I'll ask you three very very quick questions and you were decided when two out of the three and you can I understand what you're saying and you can say you were I understand it bothered you I get it what bothering me is that you think that I know it's something that was talking I really think I know it's silent if one of you went through an episode and I had to pin him down because I thought it would be so he hasn't told you that he's hurt anybody recently no yeah most of the time you never said he heard anybody no you never said that he did something bad in everything Kelsey is using open Palm gestures here this is a non-verbal indicator of a lack of confidence and it's interesting that she makes this gesture while saying that she thought he was fine after a while it implies that she may not be sure about this statement I need you way down here okay he's he's alive now right you revived him he's safe all right we'll go another let's back up a little bit the way the detective is speaking with Kelsey could be detrimental to get information out of her when conducting a police interview it's important for detectives to ask one question at a time and pause to let the other person answer the detective asks a question here but then doesn't give her a chance to respond he's alive now right do you regarding he's safe the best questions during an interrogation are short simple and straightforward in the read technique a popular method of interrogation investigators are trained to do 20 of the talking while the interview subject should be doing 80 of the talking the detective also downplays Kelsey's Feelings by saying she was bothered by Jeffrey's attempt to take his own life Kelsey and the detective soon come to a head again so you're positive you're 100 positive no nothing towards anybody but thank you yeah basically doesn't mean yeah I don't know we might normally say that her saying basically is a qualifier statement but at the same time she's young and has at least one disability that affects communication as well this detective isn't exactly doing a great job of establishing or maintaining Rapport to keep her talking comfortably she may be feeling pressured to provide answers the likely truth is that she may not know the answer to the question but is afraid of saying that since it hasn't gone over well in her interview up to this point [Music] okay that's fine no I don't like it when you're deceptive so here we go on the back up and then I've got to go because I've got I'm going to be called his response to her saying she thought he was disrespectful is the perfect example of a damaging power struggle interrupting may be more disrespectful to her than most because if she relies on lip reading to help her understand what the detective is saying than him talking while she's talking doesn't allow her the ability to focus and understand what he's saying this in turn leads to more communication issues [Music] deep breath okay I'm almost done with this interview and I'm gonna leave your mom's a sweet woman in my opinion you just have a bad relationship I think you were trying to find something good Amy what you said he was filing he's got these things going on you were trying to help him again oh I'm he's talked to you and he's talked to you and I know what he's talking to you and I can't tell you how I know that okay but I know he's talked to you and I've been waiting for you to talk to me about it but if you're not going to talk to me about it no way okay I don't need your hands I don't need all that we're just talking we're two adults we're two adults [Music] [Applause] to you about people that he doesn't like or people that you would like to hurt Kelsey emphasizes her words with her hands and it all matches up indicating that she doesn't have a brain body conflict and is highly likely being honest she uses a lot of illustrators to emphasize her words in other ways it may seem excessive but her emotions are very high so it matches her mental state quite clearly the detective is far too confident and has now caused Kelsey so much distress that she has likely lost all trust in him she might feel that the detective is just playing games with her or she might feel frustrated that no matter how forthcoming she is he will still doubt her honesty especially since Kelsey has given all indications of a person responding honestly that's it Kelsey's heated reaction to being told she's lying is actually indicative of her being honest many truthful people will react with a strong tone of voice or even become hostile or angry when they're wrongfully accused of something it's understandable that Kelsey's patience with a detective might be running thin at this point because she's divulging sensitive and painful information while being repeatedly told she's deceptive it would be in the detective's best interest to maintain a good relationship with Kelsey if he wants her to trust him with any other secrets she may have about Jeffrey the detective may also be making this interview unintentionally harder for himself when he tells Kelsey not to move her hands around I don't need your hands I don't feel that we're just talking by telling the interviewee to limit body language the detective is limiting expressive cues that may actually be of use in the interrogation with the detective questioning her on Jeffrey's recent behavior and aggression Kelsey is able to deduce that they suspect he's involved in the Public's murders if he's over here and there's some culpability and some big things going on right here I don't want to move you into that chair and it's really that simple I don't want to put you in that same beard I'm killing him why would you say that yeah the only big thing going around it's not the only thing why would you say that you need to be honest we're there you need to be honest with you right now huh you need to be honest with me that's what you need to be don't know if you did that when you're making it you're making me sound like it that's what I asked my ass is because I don't know how do you know about the killings my mom told me your mommy Monday morning what killings would she referring to be in public the ones behind public so why would you think your boyfriend would be anything associated with that to be honest I don't know as Kelsey says to be honest I don't know she makes very intense eye contact with the detective as if she's trying to see if he believes her yeah and you need to start talking to me because I've got three houses waiting on me I'm done I have more information than you think I have I don't know interestingly Kelsey goes into the confession pose leaning forward with her hands in her lap right before the detective pushes her again if he had sat with the silence for a minute she may have opened up at that point instead of freaking out this is why when conducting interviews it's so important to pay attention to non-verbal cues and to be able to sit with silence and let the person think oh the detective did was potentially delay the truth from coming out interviews should be conducted in a non-accusatory and non-confrontational manner interviews should only be confrontational when detectives have evidence someone was involved in a crime and then the interview will switch to an interrogation style however this detective is choosing to be impatient and not empathetic he's trying to use her own words against her and make it sound like her question is proof of Jeffrey's plans this is just one example of why young or vulnerable individuals should have a parent and or lawyer present with them during questioning practice [Music] [Music] this is very important okay because I'm scared now I'm not scared for you you're fine the truth about everything there because they feel like you're not telling me I don't know I don't know when the detective comes back into the room Kelsey tells them what she can about Jeffrey's recent violent Behavior [Music] this is of course an obvious red flag that Jeffrey was dangerous sadly Kelsey thought she was taking care of Jeffrey by just taking the knife away but in truth he would have needed hospitalized care to stop his violence and aggression from escalating even further back with Detective Bennett Jeffrey has requested to speak with her again and this time he's promising to tell her the whole truth okay tell me about how you were protecting Kelsey if it was again okay he made me drag him around I'm banned to high school completely drive past and round I swear High School okay yes the um and he told me the crew was parked in that area and he made me drive past her car then back to the exiting your business so he told me to drive there then walked her back okay so I parked anything a little while later her car cuts through with his car okay and they might go back there okay so where did you first okay he made me through in my driver's license indeed threatened me drink my fat knife which was Kelsey as he headed towards in his last interview Jeffrey reveals that there was another man with him at the time of the murders with Jeffrey giving more information about Matt and the night of the murders maybe the detectives will finally be able to piece together a motive so where did you first encounter this guy where did your first beat him or be hammer it's a while back okay but we were right in these are something of the sword okay I slept a little now with him a couple times okay did you get me to at a party or at work or how did you end up meeting it was a while back he um me and Chelsea first met okay and he's like that was sometime in March right yeah the beginning of March okay there was him another person a car that was pregnant for hers and so they were gathering everything we ended up like meeting and going into my car and we're smoking and that she got pissed at me we were leaving together again we just met okay notice how quickly his emotions and voice change he quickly shifts from panic mode and freaking out to laughing about something else this is another indication that he's in the midst of a mental breakdown by giving detective Bennett a detailed description of first meeting Matt in a Michael's parking lot a story that Kelsey herself could back up he's making his explanation more and more plausible Additionally the police have records of Jeffrey's phone contacts and have seen that he does have a contact saved as Matt meaning they may now have a solid lead on another suspect after telling the detective more about meeting and hanging out with Matt Jeffrey tells her about running into him on the night of the murders where did you end up seeing him that night Okay so yesterday he told me that you and Kelsey hung out around the house you didn't tell me about Waffle House because that's where I went right after um I left okay so you went over to Waffle House after you left Kelsey's house I was trying I'm trying to protect her okay okay so tell me about the lockbox were you going over there to eat or were you going over there to meet him no I wasn't going over there anything I just uh got a water okay just go talk to the guy so then how do you encounter back when I was driving away I recognized him it's like hey how's it going and uh he changed into Azar the insurance I just want to make sure I'm understanding the entrance to the shopping center like from the main road okay Jeffrey is describing meeting Matt in a very public area it's possible that detective Bennett is trying to get details on Matt's specific location so that she can pull up security tapes from surrounding businesses and double check Jeffrey's story okay he was right on the corner right here okay sure okay um I can so where did you guys go after you picked him up she told me that she and this girl or that he really liked really loud down this girl we were driving to uh down this way towards Roswell back this way I gotta go meet her tonight and yes I see my daughter's husband but why why are you like I just want to see him like a lot because she's horrible let me show it so I share them and he says I'm good yeah I had her name okay what what are you reading you have my name right he's like you're gonna do what I say and that's it okay okay hey throw this into my family and I realize that he has my name my stuff then now it is as hers you know as her families her parents her brothers I'm like okay don't do anything to them just what do you want me to do um high school and draw it around there's this girl that I'm supposed to be meeting so because the car is there the girls go okay and he said well it doesn't look like she's in there so just let me out on the corner and then move to park over here okay so I did and I don't know where he went okay He told me that I was going to do whatever you told me to do okay and what else did he tell you to do what did he say though I need to know the words that he said I know he was threatening everyone do you remember the words that he said can you tell me the words that he said to you soon and he's talking about the girl from the car okay everybody down okay you should have seen his eyes with this the police have at least a tentative motive for Jeffrey while Jeffrey may not have known either of the victims Matt was supposedly having some sort of lover's quarrel with Natalie Henderson as some of the answers begin to fall into place for the detectives there are still plenty of questions about the murders they still need answered where did the gun come from at long last Jeffrey admits that the gas station story was a lie and he did in fact steal the gun from his grandfather Jeffrey admitting to this shows detective Bennett that he genuinely wants to tell her the truth this time around finally Jeffrey gives detective Bennett details on how he killed his victims and so he said go go now basically you go and get him and you went over and you said you opened the door yeah the left side door so let right behind the driver's seat okay who got out of the car first um um what did you say to them when you opened the door um you did act right now okay yeah they hesitated and he was getting impatient I could tell yeah and so was he still yelling yes they kept on mentioning my wife my family my wife he said come on hurry up if your family's gonna get it soon okay so you told them to get out then the guy gets out and then what did you ever been out of your rocket at that point okay so while he's yelling and you have the way out what is the girl she's coming out too did she come out the same door so they both come out the same way I was just going to like take them a couple of times yes maybe maybe if I picked the guy at once then maybe that would help yes okay what did you hit him with look again and then he fell out of the car okay did you ever hit the girl was that the only time that he hit the boy and he told you that I wasn't good enough that wasn't gonna work so did the boy get up from the ground yes basically yelling he was starting to come at me and I looked back and you really been doing things craziness ahead next thing I'm now looking around next thing I know what happened where was where was the girl when the boy was coming at you cheated what was she doing was she saying anything she was yelling at me too yeah cheers healing what the [ __ ] why did you do that I don't know he's telling me too as you look over there and saw him and he uh kill him so okay she said why are you doing this she kind of gasped when she felt yeah whatever okay did you hear the film in between the cars and she was by her car okay do you remember how she fell down did she fall down backwards or did she fall down for words okay following his detailed confession Jeffrey admits to stealing Natalie Henderson's credit card and using it at a nearby gas station by making a full confession Jeffrey can get things over with more quickly but making any confession is rarely of any value to a suspect the only time it might help is if the alleged crime is more serious than the actual crime at which point details May mitigate how the crime is actually charged however a decision to take that route would only be something undertaken after an in-depth consultation with a lawyer after Gathering a few more details from Jeffrey detective Bennett ends this interview with far more answers than she was able to get last time however there's still one more surprise in store for Detectives while Kelsey may not have known anything about Jeffrey's murders she did provide the police with the most key piece of evidence schizophrenia is a serious condition in which someone interprets their reality in an abnormal way this can include seeing hallucinations hearing voices that aren't there and extremely disordered thinking While most individuals who are diagnosed with schizophrenia do not commit acts of violence they are at a higher risk for committing violence compared to the general population one study even shows that those with schizophrenia who do act violently are more likely to have higher levels of Trauma from their childhood such as the trauma Jeffrey alleged he experienced no medications [Music] thank you exist when a person with a serious and persistent illness such as schizophrenia stops taking their medication the consequences can be serious or even fatal according to his doctor Jeffrey would experience extreme hallucinations in paranoia while not on his medication this included seeing messages from God on TV and believing that there were invisible cameras spying on him at all times with all of this information in mind the police reviewed their CCTV footage from the night of the murders and made a shocking Discovery Matt the supposed Mastermind behind this whole crime wasn't real there was nobody else anymore so some invisible person shot them while you were walking towards them why do you need to wear a mask you were wearing mask the mask is in the back of your car right now I saw it this morning yeah if there's some crazy person back there with a gun you thought you could put a little plastic Halloween mask on your face and you'd be okay what did you do I didn't do anything but no you didn't do anything yes you did what is going on and I'll leave my life alone please please typically if a suspect comes up with a wild story such as being forced to kill by a man no one else can see we can assume that they are feigning mental illness because they believe that in doing so they could avoid getting charged for the crime however Jeffrey's case is different because we know the details of his illness we know he came off of his medication and was displaying red flags indicative of severe mental and emotional decompensation including increased anger homicidal thoughts and attempting to take his own life knowing this there is a good chance Jeffrey genuinely believes this story about Matt to him Matt is real and that night at Publix was a result of Jeffrey acting out of fear from Matt's threats while this certainly doesn't excuse Jeffrey's horrific actions it does help us understand why two innocent teenagers lost their lives that night following his confession Jeffrey was treated and evaluated by medical professionals until he was fit enough to stand trial he then entered into a guilty but mentally ill plea and on May 17 2017 he was given a life sentence without the possibility of parole there hasn't been much information on Jeffrey's since his incarceration however on August 11 2017 he was somehow able to post a selfie to his Instagram account from prison the photo was taken down soon after authorities were notified about its posting and no information was ever released about how or why Jeffrey posted the image

Channel: EXPLORE WITH US

Views: 4,030,105

Keywords: documentary, true crime documentary, educational documentary, educational, psychology, law, analysis

Id: VmJb6kAh04A

Length: 63min 11sec (3791 seconds)

Published: Thu Mar 23 2023