Why NO ONE Plays: Dehya | Genshin Impact

on March 1st 2023 version 3.5 wind Bloom's breath was released and with it came the event Banner housing Dia a five-star pyro character Not only was she a heavily anticipated unit after extensive involvement in this sumero our Conquest line but she was also the first pyro character to be released in a very very long time in fact the last pirate unit that came out before Dio was tolma back in 2021 over a year and a half ago we went there the entirety of 2022 without a single new pirate unit not that we needed one after an excessive number of them were brought out in a short time frame it was high tide the other elements got some attention pyro has been on a steady decline since then the market share of vaporize and meltaz diminished considerably in favor of other reactions including the new dendro ones and while there are still a good number of regulars like Bennett hutau Joy Mia and shenling the element was in desperate need of fresh meat and they could not have picked a better time to bring in a newcomer expectations ran very high for Dia as genshin's second true pyrograde sword user I say second because sunyan is more physical a lot of players myself included expected her to be the spiritual successor to deal who has special place in many of our hearts and how should I put this in the nicest way I could say this thank goodness her character appeal Rivals that of all Hayden and nahida otherwise she may have been the saddest excuse of a five star ever produced while her Banner sales have been surprisingly decent given the circumstances discourse surrounding her Effectiveness in game has been nothing short of controversial so even though she literally came out like only a few weeks ago in the spirit of both addressing what all the hullabaloos about and to capitalize on topical matters for today's episode of why no one plays I bring you Dia the flame mate first and foremost though let's talk about something nice as part of their little anime Venture Opera GX has 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performing unexpectedly well even amidst all the Dooms saying on Twitter within the first two days the banner has earned just over 6 million dollars not too bad for a banner with the supposedly look to your character and a mid-tier's rerun unfortunately that's about as far as it would go entering day 3 4 and 5 the sales have fallen below the median average and I doubt it's going to improve from here on out now I personally don't pay attention to leaks mostly because I would rather just wait until the character is officially released but it was almost impossible for me to not be made aware of the immediate problems regarding her gameplay Theory crafters and other creators were quick to analyze Diaz kit and run numbers on her and wasn't long before they found out something was very wrong about her in her defense pyro was already hanging by a thread in comparison to the new meta elements like Electro hydro and dendro so one could argue that expectations for her were unreasonable especially coming off an impressive string of banners and reruns that featured a ton of good units but that's just it even those who had modest soapsody sorely disappointed and to make matters worse a lot of the issues within their design are counterproductive mistakes that mihoyo should have learned from ages ago we have a lot of material to go through so let's get started beginning with a circumstantial factor in regards to report sales much of that has to do with the fact that she's going to be a permanent Union like tignati which may also explain her underwhelming gameplay as there's the possibility that a brand new player might acquire her as their first five star outside of that most players are skipping their Banner out of consideration that they'll inevitably pull for her when losing a 50 50 down the road let's go through her abilities for the uninitiated her Elemental skill molten Inferno has two versions one that creates a field and the other that deals in power damage when in the field while inside the area damaging enemies will cause him to take follow-up pyro damage not unlike riding shogun's skill the attack skills off of both Deus attack and Max HP and can be triggered every two and a half seconds additionally while inside the field characters have increased resistance to stagger and a portion of damage taken will be stored as red means blood and then redirected to DIA causing her to take that absorbed amount as damage over time okay a very immediate problem the only time DIA doesn't absorb damage is when she stores 200 of her maximum health meaning it's possible for you to unintentionally kill DIA from the damage taken if you don't have somebody to regenerate your team's HP other units with self-inflicted damage like kutaus got to afterlife or a new loose Bountiful chorus have workarounds for the former hutau only trains a portion of her current health making it impossible for her to die from her own skill as for the latter the chorus only damaged the active character which you can circumvent through healing and shielded there are two factors that make it far more likely for you to kill Tia on accident first most conventional healing abilities only recover the active character for example kokumi's jellyfish only heals the active character for her to regenerate her entire party's Health she has to Auto attack while reverse is active not every healer has that ability so you'll find yourself swapping to DIA several times throughout a fight just to keep her alive second shielding is out of the question for her to stack up red means blood damage has to register on her or her team otherwise the game will simply think he didn't get hit by anything Shields are still the premier form of Defense as prevents you from getting staggered since the shield took the Blow instead in her case you're forced to take damage if you want to make the most of his skill which also means you're forced to micromanage your health at all times to ensure she doesn't accidentally die also before some of you interject by saying that's what her pastor Talent is for while stalwart intrusive coverage should more or less cancel out the bleed and only activates once every 20 seconds secondly the damage reduction from instanting sucker is not enough to offset this you need a Healer on your team you might be wondering what's the payoff for all that trouble absolutely nothing yep if you were expecting some kind of fat gum Quirk from my hero Academia where she stores the damage to throw right back at her opponent you get to eat the dot damage does nothing she just takes damage the entire time you and I'm sure many of us thought there must be some amazing payoff nope just Shield your team it's the only way you stop her from exploding for no reason see I'm all for conditional downsides this mechanic in particular happens quite often in video games that one character who stores damage taken to use in a Revenge attack and it even Falls in line with their personality but for some inexplicable reason redmi means blood does nothing but serve as an inconvenience I spent the entire like what two minutes talking about how oh you gotta like take care of her health and manage it so she can store all that blood no that doesn't even do anything but perhaps since it's purely an optional thing it's not good but it's not bad either true if it's something you can avoid altogether that means the measure of DSL mental skill lies in its numbers and you're not going to find a whole lot of souls in that either reaching Flame the empowered version of the two only deals a maximum of 240 at Rank 10 which is quite low and the echoing fire from the area doesn't scale that well either a poetry 108 of a total attack and only 1.86 percent of her Maxwell you'd be hard-pressed to see anything more than mid to high four digits pretty underwhelming for a skill that does nothing but do damage typically echoing damage is a fantastic weapon to have at your disposal as it allows you to supplement the active character for one man reactions however as I mentioned in previous videos on pyro it's often the one triggering the reaction not facilitating and even then this kind of scaling is almost pathetic for comparison Thomas fiery collapse can be triggered once every second and deals 123.2 percent of his attack as damage I'm choosing level 13 because it's more likely for you to have C5 Telma than C5 on Dia Diaz fiery sanctum has less attack scaling only compensated by a minuscule amount of her HP and triggers every two and a half seconds comparing an elemental skill with the burst might sound unfair but we're talking about a 5 star versus a subpar 4 star these numbers are bad even for the standards of day one genshin augmenting it by an additional 3.6 percent to reverse constellation won't remedy that issue certainly not for two to three hundred bucks constellation 2 doesn't improve it by that much either what's funny is that shangling squaba does more damage than Dia's skill her Elemental burst is another counterproductive mess in and of itself Leo 9 bike is a very unique ultimate and not in a good way how it works is the idea unleashes a barrage or pyro damage in front of her before ending with a finishing block kind of like the tending combo from Tekken during this time she can't use her Elemental skill or use any of her normal attacks and both are replaced with a new skill that when pressed increases the number of hits you dish out during that barush at any point while attack you can cancel the channel by jumping out though sounds impressive on paper Until you realize you get no invincibility frames after the initial cast so if you want to get all her hits off she's wide open the real problem is attacks from Leo 9 bite don't count as normals meaning she can't use any of the Myriad of powerful supportive skills that would ostensibly synergize very well with this kind of attack though none of them given the fact that double Hydro is probably the last Bastion of pyro being a viable element flat out doesn't work on Dia's strongest attack I'd go so far as to say her ultimate is even more dysfunctional than yoemias and once again her innate damage doesn't make up for this each individual hit only has a base scaling of 178 of her attack and just over 3 percent of her Max health and the maximum number of hits you can pull off is 10 for 1780 plus 30 Max HP the numbers may not look too bad in totality but this is over the course of 4 seconds not counting the initial animation whereas most ultimates are only about one and two seconds in length and it's a lot easier to chain Elemental reactions with theirs the only way Dia can reliably get a reaction machine off her ultimate is the require unit like ganyu or shun ho Hydro units cannot follow up on our attacks by the way remember how her skill does that echoing fire damage and grants to 60 mitigation from a self-inflicted DOT damage the field dissipates when using her burst for no reason and there's no constellation that addresses this she flat out can't use her skill and burst at the same time it's properties like this that make me wonder how the hell no one from a design team saw this there's no way in the seventh house this was just glossed over leading me to believe this was done intentionally but then at Beggar's belief why why did they feel the need to hamstring like this it's not even like oh it's a minor inconvenience Dia's kid feels like it was designed by two different teams and then they thought she would be a four star character before mihoyo said she would be a five star at the last minute and even for a 4 star her numbers are abysmally weak the enfage can probably do twice the amount of damage Dia can to give you an idea just how poor her numbers are look at constellations 4 and 6. at the price of 5 copies of her your grand prize is 16.5 recovered energy and 20 7.5 of your max self restore that's it dealers constellation 4 increases the total damage of steering Onslaught by 40 if you wait two seconds not the most impressive either but t-look was a day one five star D is a five-star release halfway through version 3. I failed to understand how they thought these parameters were acceptable and you can't use the excuse that she's a standard Banner unit she's blatantly worse than most other power units in the game tour credit constellation 6 is not half bad first it boosts the quick rate of Leo 9 by 10 and then anytime one of the hits during the barrage lands a crit subsequent hit skiing 15 bonus crit damage and the total duration extends by a small amount for a Max of 60 bonus crit damage and 2 more seconds not too shabby 60 crit damage is no laughing matter but let's do forget you can't consistently achieve vaporize on these hits because they don't trigger seeing Tony atlan's follow-up damage so it's a moot point base numbers and limiters are not that we all end all everyone lost their minds on the event that kokomi was unable to crit and look where she is now but kokomi has the benefit of hydro being the best driving element in the game she doesn't need to land credits or or even deal damage for that matter because as long as she can apply Hydro liberally Elemental reactions will carry the rest Pyro's two premier reactions melt and vaporize are amplifiers how effective they are strictly depends on the source of the attack Tia can't afford to have damaged this poor as their element necessitates very high base damage why do you think Utah gains a metric ton of attack from guy to afterlife because she needs it could Dia have been improved through Merchant perhaps after all that's one reaction that doesn't require a strong pyrotech to do its job there was potential for a multi-nurfronto's echoing fire to help with Virgin but a cast interval of two and a half seconds is too slow for Bergen and it doesn't have a large enough AOE to a dental course that is spread out if your goal is purely to achieve virgin there's no pragmatic incentive to use Dia over Tomah those problems are not something you can fix by simply decking her out with weapons and artifacts to show you just how wide the Gap is I believe huta was c0 and base staff of Homa does three to four times more DPS than her equipment in genshin has always been a supplement not a replacement something to make the character even more effective at their such as emblem of severed fate increasing Elemental burst damage based on your recharge implying the character already wants to build Dr to begin with HP artifacts like tenacity of the millilit won't make up for the lack of any strength in her Musa thing is Dia's design is by no means bad in concept it's a great playstyle that speaks to the no-nonsense head-on confrontation Champion by her and I love how she flat out discards a Greatsword to beat The Living Daylights out of her Target theoretically she would have been a very enjoyable character to play with her unorthodox attack pattern and with how there was no new pyro character for well over a year and change so much was riding on her being good or at least serviceable which means that all the more disappointing this year turned out like this I try to be as optimistic about a character as possible but you'd be grasping a straws to find any excuse for her she was hyped up to be this badass Warrior And yet when we look at her in-game stats she may very well be the weakest five star in the entire game this has to be a sick joke they went above and beyond to make her this bad that there's no way this is unintentional I'm not saying DIA has to be on the same level as hutau but they that are so dirty they didn't just shoot her in one aspect so many things are wrong with their Elemental skill actively punishes you for using it Elemental burst deactivates Elemental skill and locks you out of doing anything if you want the full attack and you can't use follow-up type skills which are the heart and soul of pyro DPS I'm sorry for coming off overly critical in this video more than my usual tone and why no one plays but I think this is a situation where we can all more or less agree that Dia is subjectively a bad character the only redeeming quality about her is how likable she is and that seems to be the driving force behind those who elected to pull for there might be a silver of hope that she could be useful in the future her burst presents an interesting interaction that could be capitalized on with more units so retroactively buffing her is not beyond the realm of possibility but she'll need major upgrades in that department the only problem is if there are op units in the future that buff other characters up that will likely also buff futao who scales off Maxwell too I just don't know why they did this they haven't bought the characters since Jong Li and they insisted they were never again but if there's ever a time for them to make an exception it would have to be now shame really there was so much potential with this kind of character and a playstyle that I think many of us would enjoy I even liked the whole story damage kind of thing so I was surprisingly disappointed to find out she doesn't actually do anything with it considering it caps out at 200 of her Max Health it would have been cool if say her Elemental burst damage is multiplied by the amount of stored red means blood as in she can do three times more damage with her bursts when at Max storage I just don't know how they didn't think things through but uh hope this was insightful to those who needed it and entertaining to those who wanted it those of you who pull for her I salute you for now if you enjoyed the video I'd appreciate it if you leave a like And subscribe really helps out the channel also follow me on Twitter at Forest verm join my Discord server and check out my other why no one Place episodes if you haven't yet but till next time thanks so much for watching and I hope to see you again soon take care [Music] [Music] thank you

Channel: Vars II

Views: 181,031

Keywords: genshin, genshin impact, vars genshin impact, genshin why no one plays, genshin impact gameplay, genshin discussion, genshin impact analysis, mihoyo, hoyoverse, genshin impact game, genshin impact graphics, why no one plays dehya, dehya genshin impact, dehya bad, dehya, genshin impact dehya gameplay, dehya sucks, is dehya worth it, is dehya bad, genshin dehya, wnop dehya

Id: kcCoDx-qXyE

Length: 16min 19sec (979 seconds)

Published: Sat Apr 01 2023

Reddit Comments

[u/ScorpionPit]

This is one of the first times he actually sounds upset when going over the kit. He normally goes about it in a very passive 'its not for me but I can understand it" way. But it is warranted and he explains why very well.

I feel it is warranted and even though I love Dehya and don't regret getting her I just don't feel compelled to use her for the reasons he listed

[u/Star_Gazin]

The thing as well is during Vars videos, even those that focus on Why No One Plays still have some role they can do well at.

So it says a lot that even Vars agrees that Dehya is terribly done.

[u/Ventilateu]

I can confirm, I'm a Dehya main and never use her

[u/Appropriate-Ad1218]

Are there people that need to even watch it to know?

[u/SB-Main]

I am so glad he made this, and made it so soon, no less.

A big name informing everyone of Dehya's issues is exactly what we need, and he lays out the fullness of the issue too. He debunks counterclaims and is honest about how weak she is.

He is with us!

Give the video a watch, like, and comment to help it spread.

[u/Nitrax8693]

I dont really like vars that much but he seems really salty like he's one of us in this video lmao, kinda based ngl we need more content creators actually talking about her problems and how they are really intentional instead of sucking on hoyo's partnership

[u/CacaoMilkWithButter]

I wonder why?

[u/Bl4deMast3r]

Much as it hurt to watch, Vars is right.

[u/thebanishedheart]

Things I wish Vars had covered in his video:

- I don't think he'd mentioned the burst's shitty targeting and all-around jank. I'm big on QoL. I like using "bad" characters who are easy to play anyways. Pre-Dendro Keqing was bad but other than her CAs being bugged, fun to play. Dehya is both bad and clunky.

- I wish he'd pointed out that there was absolutely no reason to put her on standard precisely because Diluc existed. Then again, I do appreciate his pointing out that this was intentional sabotage, for fuck knows what reason. (He probably knows what reason but also he probably understands how hyperdefensive some miHoYo simps are about their racist, greedy, lazy company.)

But wow it seems he is actually upset about this, in a way I have never seen in his other videos, and I have watched many, many of them. I've seen him rip on my favorites (Keqing/Qiqi) and bring up many good points, but I've never come away from them feeling like they were completely unusable. This one with Dehya is just sobering.