Why doesn't Toad's voice sound like it used to?

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I blame Arin Hanson

šŸ‘ļøŽ︎ 1 šŸ‘¤ļøŽ︎ u/OwlsIsBetterThanMans šŸ“…ļøŽ︎ Jun 13 2021 šŸ—«︎ replies

It seems more than just a coincidence that Toad has the gravelly voice in the Super Show cartoon and then Jen Taylor does a gravelly voice for the ā€˜first timeā€™ in the games.

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Toad has an extremely distinctive voice. ā€œHa ha ha haaa!ā€ Itā€™s so harsh sounding, and screechy. But go back twenty years, and he sounds like this instead. ā€œYeah, hahaha!ā€. He doesnā€™t sound the same, at all! "I'm the best!" In fact, heā€™s completely missing all of that screechiness that makes Toadā€™s voice so iconic nowadays. So, why on earth did Toadā€™s voice change so dramatically? Well, it was kinda an accident - It definitely wasnā€™t planned to sound this way! Come on a journey with me to answer the question: Why has Toadā€™s voice changed so much? Before we start, letā€™s just get this out the way: Iā€™m leaving out the old Mario cartoons and anime, as always, because they werenā€™t controlled by Nintendo themselves. Weā€™re talking strictly Nintendo sanctioned voices here! So, Toad actually got his very first voice earlier than you might expect. It came in the year 1994, in the SNES version of the game Warioā€™s Woods. This is a puzzle game, somewhat similar to Tetris, developed by Nintendo and Intelligent Systems. And take a listen to this. "Cool!" That was Toad speaking just there. Let me play another clip. "Yeah!" Actually, to be specific that was RED Toad. You see, Warioā€™s Woods has two different Toads - one is red and one is green. And oddly enough, Green Toad has his own unique set of voice clips. "Hello!" Letā€™s compare the two. Here's what Red Toad sounds like... And then, here's Green Toad. Green Toad sounds more gruff, and manly. So, who are the voice actors behind these voices? Well, hereā€™s nothing whatsoever in the gameā€™s credits about voice acting at all. HOWEVER, in amongst the sea of Japanese names, there are two suspicious looking English names. Michael Kelbaugh and Robin Krouse. Both Michael and Robin were working with or around Nintendo at the time this game was in development, and as native English speakers, I think they may well be the people behind the two Toad voices. It's hard to know for sure, but that's my guess. Now, this game isnā€™t really connected at all to the rest of the evolution of Toadā€™s voice - I wouldnā€™t be surprised if Nintendo themselves forgot that Toad spoke in this game - but as an official Nintendo developed game, I couldnā€™t really leave it off the list. But now, letā€™s move on to where things properly get started. Ok, so it all begins for real in 1996. Not Mario 64 - Toad IS in that game, but he never actually speaks. No, Toadā€™s first memorable voice role came a little later in the year, with Mario Kart 64. For the first time ever, Nintendo wanted their Mario Kart racers to speak. However, most of the voice actors chosen were just Japanese Nintendo employees with some free time. As for Toad, well, his voice was provided by a woman named ā€œTomoko Marunoā€. "Ow-ow-ow-ow!" Now, literally nothing is known about who this woman was, and how she came to voice Toad. Heck, thereā€™s not even a single photograph of her out there. But what there is is her performance as Toad. Take a listen. Now, when it came time to localise Mario Kart 64 into English, Nintendo of America decided to re-record some of the voices using native English speakers. I can only assume thatā€™s because some of those original voices have fairly thick Japanese accents. Anyway, one of the voices that was redone in English was Toadā€™s. And, the guy who was chosen to voice this character was Isaac Marshall. He was actually a game tester for Nintendo - for instance, he had played through all three Donkey Kong Country games to try and spot bugs and glitches before the general public could. But when Nintendo needed a new voice for Toad, Isaac Marshall was the one chosen for the role. He decided to go for a fairly youthful, and very energetic sound. Now, interestingly, after this, Nintendo actually reversed course a little. In the first 3 Mario Party games, along with Mario Kart for the Game Boy Advance, they went BACK to using Tomoko Marunoā€™s voice for Toad - I'm the best! - rather than the more recent Isaac Marshall clips - I'm the best! To be clear, Iā€™m not just talking about the Japanese versions of the games. All around the world, people listened to the Japanese voice clips. But then in 1999, when Nintendo were working on Mario Golf for the N64, they decided to hire a professional voice actress to take on the role. You see, they were already holding auditions to find a new voice for Princess Peach, so they figured they could look for someone to play Toad as well. With both of these characters, what they wanted is for someone to perfectly mimic the current voices of the characters. And thatā€™s when they met Jen Taylor. Jen Taylor is a voice actress who is GREAT at mimicking voices. Sheā€™s done it her whole life. And so, she was able to perfectly mimic both the current voice of Princess Peach, and the voice of Toad. Iā€™m honestly not sure if Nintendo were looking for one person to play both characters, but Jen Taylor could do it. And so, in Mario Golf, hereā€™s what Toad sounds like. Wait, what? Hang on, that doesnā€™t sound Toad did before. Suddenly, heā€™s got that gruff sound in his voice. "Try again!" What happened? Well, this is one part of the story that I really donā€™t understand. I have scoured hours and hours of interviews with Jen Taylor, and in every interview she says something to this effect. ā€œI literally went in there and imitated the woman who had done it before me, and thatā€™s how I got that gig.ā€ Okay well, thatā€™s something to work from. She wasnā€™t imitating Isaac Marshallā€™s voice - "yeah, hahaha!" - she was definitely trying to sound like Tomoko Maruno - "yeah, hahaha!" Except, she doesn't... She doesn't at all the same! "Try again!" Well, okay thatā€™s not exactly fair. When you listen to the two voices side by side and you listen for similarities, there are some things in common. "Okay!" "Okay." They both have a similar sort of high pitch and high energy type thing. But, it seems as though Jen Taylor added that gruff-ness herself. In most of the clips it's pretty subtle, so itā€™s not like it changed the performance a huge amount. Except, by only a few games later, this gruff, Marge Simpson sound had ballooned out of control! Hereā€™s Toad from Super Mario Advance for instance, which was only the third game released featuring Jen Taylorā€™s voice. I mean, the only thing you can notice about that performance IS the gruff, gravelly sound. Everything else disappears into the background. So, that's what I mean when I say the voice was created by accident. I donā€™t mean that Jen Taylor was ill and thatā€™s where the sound came from. No, what I mean is that Jen Taylor was just trying to mimic the previous voice, but she didn't do a very good job of it. She introduced a slight rasp to the voice. But over time, this rasp became more and more exaggerated. And then, something big happened. Jen Taylor left Nintendo. So, Iā€™ve talked about this before, but around 2005 or 2006, Jen Taylor decided to stop working with Nintendo so she had more time to work with the Seattle Childrenā€™s Theatre. Which left Nintendo without a voice for Peach and Toad. However unlike Peach, Nintendo were mostly able to get by by re-using old recordings of Toadā€™s voice - itā€™s not like generally comments on anything specific that's happening in the games, so no-one's gonna notice if you use an old clip in a new game. Except, there was one game though where they needed new recordings. Super Mario Strikers, the slightly bizarre Mario football game. Apparently none of the old recordings from Nintendo's archive really fit the vibe of the game very well, because they decided they needed some new voice clips. Now, while this was going on, Nintendo were searching for someone to take over from Jen Taylor full time. But before they found that person, they decided to hire a temporary replacement, in the form of a woman named Kelsey Hutchison. Again, thereā€™s no photo of her on the internet - for some reason, this story seems to attract mysterious individuals - but perhaps itā€™s for the better, as her take on Toad is pretty notoriously unpopular. Iā€™m gonna play you a sample, but first a warning - you might want to get ready to turn that volume down, if this is a bit much. So, that was probably the screechiest that Toad has ever sounded, but it also somehow fails to get that specific ā€œToadā€ sound right. Still, itā€™s not like I could do a better job: Toadā€™s voice is pretty hard to recreate. Anyway, these sounds were reused in the gameā€™s sequel for the Wii as well, bringing this noise ā€œAHHHā€ to a whole new generation. Lucky them. Meanwhile, Nintendo were still searching for that perfect person to take over both of Jen Taylorā€™s characters. And thatā€™s when they came across someone who was bizarrely perfect for the job. Samantha Kelly. Samantha Kelly was voicing TV commercials at the time, but when she heard about the audition for Peach and Toad, she couldnā€™t believe her ears! Her natural speaking voice sounded really similar to Jen Taylorā€™s, so if she just pitched it up a bit, it was a perfect match for Peach. But Toad, that was far stranger. Youā€™re not gonna believe this, but from about the age of 12, Samantha Kelly had been doing Toadā€™s exact voice - without even knowing it - without even knowing who toad was! ā€œThat was a voice that I had played with when I was a little kid - when my mom was tucking me into bed! I had this little puppet character called Cedrick, and my mom would be like STOP IT Youā€™re driving me crazy! And then, it was like - this is kind of a fit!ā€ Of course, that didnā€™t mean that her first recording session wasnā€™t nerve racking. Apparently the recording booth kept getting hotter and hotter, and she got nervous and sweaty. Yeah, I can't blame her, it seems like a stressful job. But, this recording session ended up being a success. And, her Toad debut came in the game Mario Party 8, from 2007. Hereā€™s her first ever Toad voice. Itā€™s funny. At the time, that was probably the most TOADY that Toadā€™s voice had ever sounded. But, his voice somehow kept getting more and more exaggerated as time went by! In fact, by now itā€™s such an extreme voice to perform that when Samantha Kelly comes to record new voice lines, they always have to do Peachā€™s voice first. Thatā€™s because after doing Toad, her voice is so destroyed that she canā€™t do the Peach voice anymore. Her voice literally wonā€™t go high enough! So, they first go through all the high pitched characters, like Peach and Baby Peach. Then, after that, they move on to Toad. Even with Toad though, they start with the lower energy noises. Then, they move up the ranking, until they reach the very last lines, which are the truly voice shattering ones. Keep in mind, these recording sessions typically last for 4 hours at least! And so, finally after all of that, Samantha Kelly goes home and only by the next day has her voice started to heal. I mean, thatā€™s pretty extreme. She mentioned as well that sheā€™s constantly having to drink loads and loads of water during the records, just to try and keep her voice alive. Wow. And you can hear just how extreme Toadā€™s voice has become in a more modern game, like Mario Kart 8. So, thatā€™s how Toadā€™s voice came to be. It started out normal, but as the voice actors changed behind the scenes, each one exaggerated the gravelly tone just a little more, until the present day when Toadā€™s voice isā€¦ well, itā€™s certainly distinctive. And hey, while I was working on this video I tried to do the toad voice and it HURT, pretty bad! So, I have a lot of respect for both Jen Taylor and Sam Kelly, who performed and continue to perform this voice for years on end. Rather them than me! Both Bowser and Princess Peach have also gone through pretty dramatic voice changes, so if youā€™re interested in that, then you can check out either video - theyā€™re on screen right now. Plus, if you want to - OH there's a fly on my keyboard... Sorry, uh, if you want to hear more stories going behind the scenes of your favourite games, be sure to subscribe and turn on notifications so that you see the videos and soon as Iā€™ve finished making them. Seeya next time!
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Published: Tue May 25 2021
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