Which building materials are the BEST!? An Oxygen Not Included Science Experiment

my friends hello it is officially the year 2021 i'm recording this six minutes after midnight on new year's day so if you hear any fireworks and stuff going off in the background that's what's going on but what better way to ring in the new year than uh to look at the materials that are best to build stuff out of so yay new years all right this was totally not planned but what happened with this and the reason that this video exists is because there was some talk on one of my other videos in a comment about the best materials to use for like insulation and stuff and i think at some point i have learned it either wrong or two different ways so the way i typically look at this let me find something that's actually better the way i typically look at this is i'll look at the specific heat capacity and the thermal conductivity of something to try to judge what is actually better or worse for uh heat transfer and whether i want to encourage it or discourage it and i think rather than trying to estimate or trying to use math or anything like that i was going through and setting up a bunch of examples like this so i could see it for myself so i figured if i'm learning this the correct way by just doing science in the game then i might as well just bring everybody else into the the conversation as well and together we'll just kind of find out what is the best thing to uh build this stuff out of so what i'm gonna do is i'm going to put something very hot in each of these squares and i'm going to hook them up or not i will either just have them ins the the tiles conduct heat out to some gas on the outskirts here probably out to some oxygen since that's what's in most of our bases and i'll put something very hot in here probably like really hot petroleum i need to be careful to not melt some of these things because some of these are built out of lead and they have a very low melting point like 600 degrees and uh i am accounting for this on the standpoint of making sure i don't break any machinery because i built all my machinery out of thermium which if you've never seen this before it's basically something that just adds a ridiculous amount of heat resistance on this so the biggest worry that i have for all of these is going to be metal and specifically lead so i'm going to probably just spawn like 500 degree petroleum and yes this is in fahrenheit uh oh i'm so tempted to switch it now but we'll switch it at some point i promise i'll keep this all just in numbers that are not really that useful like all we want to see is the amount that it changes and not necessarily the exact temperature so all this is going to do is figure out what's the best and worst tiles what's the best and worst pipes for either encouraging or discouraging heat so let's do some science y'all yeehaw all right we want to put petroleum in here let's just not overfill this either let's set this to about 500 degrees fahrenheit so we don't melt anything and what i have in here by the way before i actually unpause i'm just going to do this one section at a time to figure out what's better or worse for each thing uh what i have is each one of these is built with a different type of material on the inside so this one's copper this one's lead this one's iron so on and so forth and we're gonna test literally every option that i have for these so i'm gonna first be testing the uh metal tiles because those are going to encourage the most heat transfer and we're gonna kind of figure out which one's better or worse for that i'm going to also test the regular tiles in the exact same way so i'm just going to go ahead and sample this and fill these we're going to start them all at the same time so you can see what the difference is between all of the types as well and uh we'll do this one and then we'll do the plumbing ones next so that we can just see the raw tiles by themselves how much heat do they actually push out to something else um yeah there's gonna be something funny later in the video that we'll have to get to but we'll get there all right so what i want to do next is i want to grab oxygen and i want to fill this up with some kind of relatable value so 2 kilograms per tile is about where it maxes out in most people's bases so this is kind of simulating if i were to have 300 or sorry 500 degree petroleum uh in a uh encased thing like this with metal tiles exposed to my base how much damage am i going to do to my base by just letting that transfer you could also think about this the other way sometimes you want that heat transfer to happen like if this was cold petroleum for example the ideas are the same for heating and cooling so i'm just going to have everything being consistent we're just going to be seeing how much heat is transferred from one to the other which should imply uh that it'll transfer any energy so like cool or hot should be transferred in the same way there was a noise on my mic sorry about that i'm like using my hands to talk and knocking into my stand so i'm gonna fill up the rest of these rooms and i'm gonna set a timer using a piece of automation to figure out how much it's changing and how quickly it is and i'll just let it run so we can get an idea of scale on in terms of how much uh heat is exchanged and i'm doing it this way rather than doing math because i want to see some practical examples of like if i had to insulate something away from the rest of my base what does that actually mean and how bad is that going to be if i choose it to do one way over the other and i'm hoping to find some stuff that will kind of settle this once and for all all right so let's get some automation i'm going to set up a timer sensor here just so we can help keep time i'm going to set the green duration to like as many seconds as i can possibly get and then this we'll actually know how many seconds have elapsed because it's zero out of 600 right now the red whatever we'll just set it to zero so we'll be able to tell how much time has passed since i unpause and so we can see how fast the heat transfer happens and i'll just stop it periodically to get an idea of how things are changing so now that we have this first section set up which is literally just how do all the tiles interact with ambient air and liquid and stuff like that around them let's find out so i'm going to do is i'm going to i have this already reset let's just go ahead and unpause and see what happens now this on pretty slow right now so you can already see the oxygen around here is getting extremely hot on all these metal tiles so let's see what the difference is between a bunch of these and maybe we could try to measure it all from the same point or i guess we could just go by like an order of magnitude in terms of what's different because this is also a good way to check a lot of times you can also think about this in the sense of i'm probably just going to be using the most common tile i have for some of this stuff so like the differences between aluminum and say lead for example i guess if you really want a nitpick and you really want to make sure you're using the most efficient thing we can check that out but ultimately a lot of times i'm just going to be using what i'm subjected to and a lot of times for these more advanced things like thermium i'm probably not going to have that when i'm having this problem so i'll make sure to mention those as we go so i'm going to try to just measure from the same tile which would be this bottom middle tile on each one and note which one it is so copper is at 424 lead is a little bit higher 469. iron is at 403 so a little bit slower than the other two but they're all in the same neighborhood about 400 degrees aluminum is actually insulating decently but if you're trying to encourage heat transfer that means aluminum is kind of bad at that uh let's also check out oh did i make aluminum twice did i actually make a mistake here let's hope that i didn't because i'll have to go back and do this again there's five and four okay so this is just duplicate aluminum uh there's only nine things we can make this out of so i'm not too worried about that so it should go from aluminum to gold if i did this correctly let's check it out aluminum gold yeah and there's only nine because gold's still on the screen when i see the latter four so okay this is not meant to be here so we'll we'll not worry about that one so yeah aluminum is doing a pretty bad job of encouraging heat transfer which is i'm going to call it bad because i would typically want heat transfer to happen with these tiles uh let's see gold about the same as what i've seen before maybe a little bit better about the same as iron or sorry lead tungsten also about the same these are almost identical steel is a little bit more insulated than the rest of them about the area where aluminum is so steel's pretty bad for encouraging heat transfer if you need to encourage a lot these are niobium and thermium i'm barely going to pay attention to these because these are things you can only get from space so just to look at them yeah nothing crazy there and if we look at the temperature overlay if i were just to look at this i'd be like uh they're all about the same so i think for the metal tiles if you want to encourage heat transfer just use whatever you have and you're not going to get too dramatic of differences again the only other thing to pay attention to here is their melting points so if you're handling something that's really hot lead would be terrible for this because it would melt really easily whereas something like steel would be really good because this is a really high melting point to the point that you could contain magma and stuff like that inside here so i would just say use whatever you want and the biggest difference the biggest difference is going to be the steel that you have in the meantime we've only simulated this for 12 seconds so let's see what's happened with our regular tiles this is already like unacceptably bad to me if i was trying to insulate this with regular tiles my base would overheat really quickly especially with some of these but this is interesting to me and we'll talk about this this is definitely something that's super duper late game but it is still kind of interesting uh there's also some other ones that are a little bit interesting like the ceramic here is doing a great job let's look at this so these are regular tiles sandstone this block let's actually simulate this for a little bit longer since we're going with sandstone while we're at it let's look at all the insulated ones not enough changes happened yet so i'm not going to pay attention to these yet let me simulate this for just a little bit longer and 20 seconds by the way is almost no time at all i think a full cycle is 300 seconds so let's stop at 30. this is in one tenth of a cycle meaning that this is going to happen almost immediately so if we look at the temperature overlay most of them are looking pretty bad in terms of how much heat is actually exchanged so if you want to insulate stuff regular tiles just don't look like the right option here except for a couple of special materials which we'll talk about so let's look at these individually just for the sake of comparison sandstone 186 igneous rock 168. granite 177 so thus far it looks like sandstone's the worst igneous rock is the best sedimentary rock terrible 310 this is one of the worst ones looks like which means that i am wrong in some of the videos that i'm talking about because the thing to think about this is the material determines it's some of these properties and apparently i want high specific heat capacity and low conductivity which is what that comment was saying so that comment is definitely correct and i can't remember where i read about it but i remember reading a long time ago when i was a noob that uh using obsidian was one of the best things for insulation but at least for regular tile obsidian and sedimentary rock are awful so definitely not going to be recommending using those anymore and i do feel a little bit justified because for a long time i was thinking that igneous rock was better than most of these ones which is why igneous rock was a little bit more attainable uh and i i got my opinion reversed at some point i don't remember why but yeah so definitely igneous rock is the best of these so far and these ones are objectively awful all right let's keep looking fossil not terrible but still you want to use your fossil fur lime more than often so yeah i wouldn't definitely recommend using that ceramic is interesting this is doing an okay job uh by comparison a little bit better than igneous rock ceramic is something you have to manufacture as well so it makes sense for it to be a good insulator mafic rock pretty terrible about the same degree as these other two these two are interesting though this iso resin doing a pretty good job and this is a special material that you can make in the late game which if you click on it it has a thermal conductivity of literally zero meaning that it should not conduct any heat at all no matter what you're doing and more specifically that means that it's basically impossible for something to change this thing's temperature uh if you want to get kind of technical about it so uh insulation if you ever manage to get there that means you don't need to use insulated tiles anymore you can just use the regular tiles and it should not exchange any more heat and pause there for a second but i think this section is pretty much done so if you're looking to encourage or discourage this it looks like if you want to encourage uh sedimentary rock obsidian are both good options mafic rocks also a decent option if you want to discourage i wouldn't use any of these except for the insulation which i don't think i've ever tried to make in a normal run before unless i was doing something really silly because of how expensive it is and how much you just really don't need that unless you're doing like crazy challenges or mods or something like that so yeah that's that's the story for that let's check out these and see how much these have changed some of these have actually lowered just a little bit because of the temperature of the tile so that's kind of funny uh but let's simulate this on like super speed and see if this changes in any meaningful way and then this will give us a better idea of how it changes over a uh span of a really long time so i'm just gonna let this run see if we get any bleeding here maybe not we might need to actually come back to this and figure this out by the way we've only ran for i think this has been maybe two cycles and these are all all the way red so definitely terrible this one actually started breaking through the iso resin which i didn't realize had such a low melting point so there you go there definitely don't want to use that but the insulation still perfect so there you go all right i think i accidentally paused to get out of this view let me go ahead and speed it back up and i don't know if we're just going to sit here and watch this because it may take too long for this to actually start happening so this i mean you can already get an idea of generally how many cycles have passed just based upon our timer here oh we also have the cycles counter here so i guess we know how much time has passed as well if we need to be less particular about it but yeah over the span of a couple cycles all these installation options have barely changed but they will eventually change um so i think i'm going to come back to these let's not worry about this right now and let's see what they do later all right let's look at some other stuff let's look at plumbing plumbing is the same idea in the sense that if you let uh like liquids go through pipes they will exchange their heat with the things that are around them so let's do the same thing as we did before with this petroleum let's fill up these chambers and let's set it to the same value 500s on both go ahead and fill up all of them they're going to be able to resist the heat because it did build these out of thermium which is again is another very late game resource that you can only get from rocket missions so i wouldn't worry too much about that unless you're trying to do some crazy advanced stuff in general the best thing to build these things out of with common resources is steel because they can resist all kinds of heat but if you don't need them to resist the heat you might as well save your steel for something else oh man i did not mean to do that uh let's definitely don't want to fill that one up because that's going to be gas definitely getting on autopilot here yes select vacuum uh-huh good job all right so now we have this all hooked up to power we need to actually put some gas out here which again we did this with oxygen so let's switch back to that really quick ox gn you know you're always good at typing until someone's watching as soon as someone's watching you're just like oh i've never typed in my life all right let's see what the pipes do with these different fluids and the pipes are going to be what's different so this one's made out of copper this one's made out of lead this one's iron aluminum gold looks like it didn't make the same mistake with the double aluminum here tungsten steel niobium and thermium so those are all the options that i have for these liquid radiant pipes and again the radiant ones i'm expecting to do much much better job of encouraging heat transfer so we should expect this to change really fast but i don't know maybe sometimes it's not necessarily worth building them out of refined metals if you can get away with a lot of the same ideas with the regular ones so let's see what the regular ones do i'm just gonna finish filling up the rest of these they will all turn on at the same time and we will see what changes all right so i think i got them all we're going to get down to the gases here at the end so yeah something that might be interesting which i'm not i guess we can demonstrate here and that is that liquid definitely exchanges temperatures way faster than gas does because it's so much more dense i guess just take my word for it knowing that you can put 10 kilograms of something through here and only one kilogram of something through here so 10 versus one like the 10 is going to impart a lot more energy on things that are surrounding it so that's kind of the basic idea behind that but let's see what happens with these pipes so i'm going to go ahead and reset this counter just because uh we're gonna be consistent and i'm gonna play it for about 10 seconds this is what we did before with these regular tiles and see how much different it was the suspense oh i was trying to get it right on ten i got pretty close all right let's see what's changed so in 10 seconds they've only pumped a little bit out but we should already be seeing changes that are pretty dramatic so like anywhere that's touching these pipes is already heating this up a lot uh so you can see the contents of the pipes definitely does change 487 when it's coming out and even within a few tiles it's already cooled down to 155 so these radiant pipes are ridiculous for exchanging temperatures as far as the other ones you can see the pipes getting a little bit warmer but they haven't started impacting the actual oxygen that much yet but you know i don't know so let's keep running for a little bit and see what it looks like let's at least let a full cycle go before we look at the whole thing and i'm guessing what we're going to see probably is that the material on these radiant pipes probably doesn't matter that much uh considering that's what we saw with the regular tile so let's see if that's true with plumbing all right there we go we now have a full loop they're all emptying back into the chambers that they started from including the insulated ones so let's see what we look like all right these are all really red except for a couple of them the couple of them are the thermium and the aluminum which we discovered before aluminum is pretty bad at encouraging heat transfer overall but even still like this has been how many seconds and this is already pretty much red entirely 40 seconds it's already up there that's not even like a quarter of a cycle so yeah you if you want to encourage heat transfer with these or encourage cooling with these or something like that the metal tiles are really good but what's interesting here it's let's see what happens with the other ones so sedimentary rock this is already pretty red wow tungsten which this is weird to me um i didn't think that tungsten was an option for this in the regular game but if i were to build this out of this in the debug mode it shows tungsten as an option as well as wolframite but i do not think that this is in the regular game um so i guess if you have access to it in the regular game it looks like with regular piping tungsten and wolfermite are both really good but that's also because they're metals so that makes sense and i guess that they allow this in the debug mode and maybe not in the regular game i don't think i've ever seen this in the regular game before so take that for what it's worth something else that's interesting though is thermium i'm not sure if you were able to do this with thermium i don't think so because i think that's also a metal so if you look through the options that i have here for this i don't think that tungsten wolverine tungsten or thermium are options but everything else i believe is uh so yeah if you want to encourage heat transfer it looks like sedimentary rock and obsidian are both doing pretty good jobs of this it also looks like sandstone is doing an job the rest of them are also kind of in that same category ceramic is definitely insulating it but if you compare that to any of the whoa oh that makes sense if you compare that to any of the insulated pipes down here you'll notice that for pretty much all of them they're all still very green almost nothing has happened in terms of heat exchange except for the same ones that we pointed out that i don't think are buildable this way in the real game which is wolframite tungsten and thermium so let's just kind of ignore those but i did want to throw those in there since they're options in the debug mode so yeah there you go so yeah uh if you're running if you're feeling a little cheap or you don't want to spend the refined metal on this it looks like sedimentary rock or obsidian is pretty decent for encouraging heat transfer um anything else is kind of mediocre but you should also be aware that if you're using any of this stuff by the way insulation once again has not transferred anything because that's exactly what it's supposed to do uh so yeah which i don't know if this is actually true because i feel like the temperature has changed yeah it's changing right now i'm watching it change but that says the thermal conductivity is zero which really confuses me so i don't understand what it's exchanging heat with which is part of the reason why this is valuable so let's keep an eye on this insulation one because for the insulation tiles they're still def this is a mess for the insulation tiles there's still definitely no heat transfer happening even though the tiles have changed a little bit which is weird some of them are at 69 some of them are at 68 like on the corners so does this actually still have heat transfer happening i don't it says it should be zero but i kind of don't get it i think this is also why simulating things in game is really valuable because sometimes the assumptions that you can make in practice aren't necessarily correct uh for whatever reason so yeah i don't know what to make of that all right let's keep going so we're checking out these ones we'll keep an eye on these insulation but yeah if you're using the regular pipes i would just assume that any heat that's in there is eventually going to be transferred but if you want to it if you want it to transfer quickly and maybe save on metal sedimentary rock obsidian look like your winners there may be granite but the rest of them are they're kind of middling so we're kind of ignoring those let's check out the other stuff here these are the insulated pipes for liquid and as we expected because tungsten wolfermite and thermium are not buildable in the real game those are metals they still do have a very high conductivity so those ones even though these are quote unquote insulated pipes are still heating up pretty badly so it looks like the rest of them at least for this short period of time have not made a noticeable change so again we're gonna have to come back after a long simulation period to see what happens with those uh but yeah conclusions here i think if you want to encourage transfer use any of the metal pipes that you have pretty much any of them are fine if you want to be cheap and not necessarily do it you can use obsidian or sedimentary rock the other ones are er and we need to keep an eye on our insulation to see what this ultimately does because my impressions if you see something that says zero thermal conductivity i would assume that that means that it's not going to change the temperature of anything around it but that might not be true all right so let's look at the rest of this let's look at gases now gases by the way something that's funny here is one of the options to build these radiant gas pipes out of is mercury which i've never even seen before but it's funny that list here is a solid because if i put it at a room temperature or even anything close it just melts so mercury is already out of the window if it happens to show up later in the game or something like that and by the way the things that show up here i'm only talking about that because there is a non-zero chance that they will eventually be introduced into the game i'm guessing a lot of them are deprecated like they were test materials or something like that so at least for the radiant pipes um there's stuff in here like pyrite that i've never even heard of before but it could exist somewhere uh it could show up back in the game so just because it is showing up here i'm going to list it out in case it matters probably doesn't but just in case so let's find some gases to fill up here i'm going to fill this up with hydrogen only because hydrogen is like the most energy rich gas i guess i could i should say i don't really know how to express that because i'm not like uh a very good person about like scientific terms or whatever but as far as i can tell this is going to carry the most energy which it means it's going to impart its temperature on something else in a more dramatic effect than something else i think carbon dioxide and chlorine are some of the worst at that by the way um so let's look at hydrogen and let's go ahead and fill this up with like 15 and we want to make this also pretty hot so let's do another 500. which we already melted our mercury but i don't think that we actually built stuff out of lead but that sounded like a pretty good number before so let's see what happens with this and by the way we already have a good idea of how fast the room changed for uh radiant pipes for these guys uh for in 40 seconds we saw the whole room change once we circulated some liquid let's see if that does the same thing for the gas but i can guarantee you that it will not be as fast only because there is less material traveling through these pipes all right let me fill up the rest of these rooms really fast and stop gabbing on about stuff gavin i feel like uh i'm back in like the 50s with a word like that i don't know where that came in for my vocabulary but it apparently surfaced there all right we are almost ready and then we need to fill this up with the same temperature of oxygen so let's go ahead and grab the same thing we did before fill it with oxygen gas at i think we did 2 and 80 is the default so let's go ahead and drop it in there not in the mercury because mercury is already not viable unless you have like an insanely cold thing and a lot of mercury that you have access to but yeah i don't know about that all right almost all filled up notice the game chug when it has to update all the tiles that are on the whole map so yeah if you're seeing any like weird looking like flashes and stuff that's definitely the video and not like youtube or your computer or something like that because it can look kind of funny all right i think we've got them all filled up i think we got them all set correctly so now that they all have gas in them they will start working all at the same time let's reset our timer so that we have a good sense of how fast things happen which here we go reset all right and here we go let's do what we did before and we'll wait about 10 seconds to see how much has changed which i don't actually know what the time is because i'm a fool hey how'd you like that 10.2 pretty good all right let's see how much has changed already which we saw on the liquid it changed it like immediately and the ones that actually had stuff in there so there is hydrogen in here but if you take a look at the temperatures the pipes are getting warm but not necessarily the stuff around them again aluminum actually looks like it's performing a little bit better as a gas pipe which is kind of weird uh but yeah let's go ahead and simulate until it gets all the way around and then we'll hopefully be able to see some of the differences between the uh liquid that was circulated once and the gas that was so the gas is getting there and here we go it's about where it was so let's look and yeah it's not all the way red everywhere it has not started imparting in some of these places like some of these places are still kind of cool this is also niobium which is interesting but let's take a look at the differences between these this has only been again i think it should be about 40 seconds if they all transfer at the same rate which i think they do yeah a little bit under that so i think the same general principle applies i would just use whatever materials you have handy here so i have electrum which i've never even heard of before aluminum pyrite again never heard of it copper iron gold amalgam wolframite steel niobium and thermium diobium and thermium again are just these special materials that you're probably never going to see unless you're specifically doing space missions and creating those materials after running space missions i just don't find a real need for it because like once you can travel that far you're basically done unless you want to do some silly stuff with the game so yeah after that much time there's not a whole lot of change but there is some but i think the important thing to note here is that look how bad it is on some of these like this aluminum there's like barely any heat transfer happening as i let this run same thing with the uh regular pipes by the way the regular pipes seem like they're doing almost as good of a job like across the board what happened here oh the iso resin melted yeah the the regular pipes seem like they're almost doing as good of a job so if you look at like the uh radiant ones there are changes like if i look at this top right corner because that's what comes in first probably gonna be the hottest in each of these rooms they're like 300 325 136 gold amalgam wow barely does anything uh but again this has only been a handful of seconds so it will eventually uh normalize if you look at the other ones too 131 138 so like some of these are on par with the gold amalgam in terms of encouraging heat transfer so i feel like if you need to encourage heat transfer via gas it seems like you don't actually get that much from using these which is interesting i've never actually compared them like this before so this is interesting to know again we have iso resin here which we don't need to worry about but again we have insulation in some of these and these pipes are changing temperature we can just sit here and watch them change which is very strange so at least for let's see what's happening with the tile since we have checked not checked back on those for a little while yeah they're still changing a little bit uh definitely not as insulated as i thought they would be so definitely interesting uh but yeah so if you take a look let's just go ahead and pause arbitrarily after a certain amount of time let's see how long it's been after 124 seconds which is about half a day you can see that the temperature change for all of the gases for both the metal types and the regular types are the same roughly so this is interesting this is something i never knew before you're almost not necessarily needing to exchange temperature this way it could be something that matters for certain setups so i'm definitely going to say that these are better like the radiant gas pipes are better but they're not like blowing me away with how much better they might be so i don't know i don't really know what to think about that might warrant a little bit more testing but i would say if you're not sure probably still use the radiant ones um but as far as i can tell if you're if you're trying to just heat a general area um kind of seems like that doesn't matter that much so interesting again the insulated pipes down here have not meaningfully changed so what i'm going to do is we're going to check all all of the deliberate insulation and we're just going to run this for quite a while and see what happens if we run it for quite a long time which we are on super speed right now which is a debug command to allow you to speed it up as much as you possibly want to so let me check really quickly and if there's not enough interesting change i'm gonna cut and then i will come back when something interesting changes and yeah i'm just not seeing a whole lot of it yet uh there is a little bit happening here if we check out these uh sedimentary rock ones these are starting to heat up pretty quickly so it looks like those are pretty bad uh okay yeah let's take a look at this actually so i'm letting this run pretty aggressively i'm sending really hot liquids through obsidian and sedimentary rock and the temperature of those pipes is changing to the point that it's starting to already heat up our oxygen out here pretty significantly uh this is also a really great visualization i'm so glad i did this because you can see things that are going into the orange things that are going into the yellow and things that are not really moving all that much at all so the good ones here are what i used to think a long time ago before i had my opinion changed that is that igneous rock ceramic are awesome uh thermium obviously is terrible because it's not viable so the red ones i think we can already eliminate because those are not things you can use in the game anyway but amongst the things you can use let me just pause here and see what we got so obsidian on this bottom middle tile sitting at 111 113 for sedimentary rock uh igneous rock has barely changed that's really encouraging uh granite has changed a decent amount sandstone has as well and the ceramic is actually colder than when it started only because the temperature of which we build stuff at usually it's like 68 degrees fahrenheit in the debug mode excuse me but yeah i think this is a really great visualization for how these things actually uh handle it so it looks like insulation of course is gonna be the best because that's what it's designed for is it just my imagination or did these pipes change temperature again i swear i saw this rising or maybe i was looking over here yeah i must have been looking here because look at the temperature on these insulation pipes by the way they're already at 200. they are imparting some of their heat on the surroundings so this is also interesting to check out what's happening with the regular insulation slowly rising so it's definitely not zero but it's very close um so it looks like there may be some value in using the like insulated version of insulation but the regular one still seems like it does a pretty good job uh if you take a look at some of the other ones it looks like we're getting some change here this is probably going to happen the slowest because it's by like i think it's convection as opposed to radiation but i'm probably getting that wrong so feel free to yell at me if that's the case but yeah looks like we have a good stack rink here ceramic looks like it's a little bit better than uh than igneous rock those are the only two that seem super viable sandstone is actually a little bit better than i thought it would be but it's not great and insulation once again is going to be the best if you can manufacture it check out gas all right gas kind of the same visualization except for not as dramatic of a change and this ought to be a good measuring stick here of look how much this has changed and look how much this has changed with the same materials they're kind of similar but the the liquid is definitely going to be more aggressive about changing that so yeah definitely something to note we should also note that there is very high energy hydrogen in here which i chose deliberately the petroleum in here i think is going to have a lot worse temperature exchange stats but even still it's it's heating it up uh more quickly than the other one but yeah it looks like kind of the same story here igneous rock and ceramic both performing really well mafic rocks okay job cemetery rock and obsidian doing a pretty bad job uh and it looks like sandstone kind of in the middle there fossil a little bit in the middle but i wouldn't spend your fossil on this anyway granite kind of in the middle as well so this is kind of shaping up about how i expected i love this visualization by the way i'm so glad i did this because not only am i kind of relearning some of these ideas but this is a good way to check to see uh how it's uh looking overall and uh maybe for people that want a quick visualization on what's good and bad this ought to serve pretty well uh let me run this for a little bit longer on these tiles since it's apparently not changing as fast as i thought it was going to some of these are actually a little bit colder and because this is going to take the longest let me actually simulate um and i will run it for a while and as soon as i start seeing a good visualization on how these things are changing i'll come back and we'll finish the video so i'll be right back all right we're at cycle 11. um as far as i can tell there's not enough meaningful change on all the tiles but there have been a couple of other changes that we should probably update here um as far as the insulation on the regular tiles or on the regular pipes we can definitely see that there is temperature change happening and this means that you cannot just cheaply get away with only using insulation this way but note that it's still better than a majority of the other things here so regular insulation looks like it's better than pretty much any other material that's not insulation uh so that's definitely something that's interesting that has changed here a little bit uh as far as the differences between the pipes for that are made out of ceramic versus igneous rock it looks like ceramics a little bit better which makes sense because you have to actually manufacture it it'd be pretty silly if it was the other way around uh so yeah you can kind of see a little bit of a visualization between these two things ceramic is actually doing a markedly better job about a 50 degree difference here maybe a little bit less than that but yeah pretty pretty interesting difference between those two so i would say definitely ceramic if you can get your hands on it that's one of the reasons to produce it is to get the insulation that you need from extremely hot liquids uh elsewhere all these are about as expected gas stuff that this doesn't count same thing with uh the insulation over here which interestingly this is just barely changed it but i think it eventually will this should also very heavily demonstrate the difference between uh insulation on various usages so like the insulation for liquid look how red these pipes are the insulation for gas not as much so yeah definitely very different uh insulation for other things so we can start to see them separate just a little bit more sedimentary rock and obsidian are basically out uh they are not good as insulators i think we can definitely define that mafic rock i'd say is also in there the mediocre ones look like they're sandstone fossil and granite and again igneous rock and ceramic are the two winners here as well but you can kind of see the temperature differences between those 83 versus 94. so definitely a much bigger difference here between these two again demonstrating that ceramic is between the two of them is definitely one of the better ones you'll want to get if you have access to it but if you don't igneous rock looks like it's your your material of choice all right the insulation that's happening over here one thing that's interesting to note here and this is different than the pipes is that these tiles are changing as far as i can tell so like this is at 68 still this is at 78 but the surrounding room is still perfectly at 80. so i think i'm gonna let this run for a lot longer because we need to get some distinction on these insulated tiles but at least as far as i can tell the tiles themselves do not impart their heat on anything else they can take heat but they don't give it away which i guess is how you could define it as far as i've seen but i'll let this run for a lot longer so that we can see the rest of this and we can see all the other insulated tile materials we're getting some false positives right here because of things that actually shared their temperature with it before uh they started to heat up so we are getting some false positives not really enough to make any sort of determination so i'm gonna have to run this for a really long time and i'll come back with the last section talking about which of these materials are gonna be the best but i'm gonna guess igneous rock and ceramic so i'll be back with that in just a sec all right my friends we're at the last section here we're at cycle 100 after running our simulation for this long which i did in super speed took i don't know maybe a little under an hour to do all that but yeah just letting it run and simulate we got some fraud to expose before we talk about our conclusions and the last little things we saw with the tiles the fraud is that undeniably the oxygen is changing around these regular insulation tiles i don't see anything else that's telling me that this is going to happen because the remote conductivity being zero my expectation on that is that this thing's temperature never changes but that's not true so this is definitely sitting up at 117 whereas the starting point was 80. so yeah don't believe these tiles especially if they're built this way but if they're built with the regular ones these have not or with the actual insulated tiles as opposed to the regular ones these have not changed whatsoever so there is some hidden property inside the tile type that they had to kind of fudge or these numbers are not actually correct or they're not like displaying down far enough there's got to be some weird thing that they put in there to prevent that from happening so yeah definitely some weird stuff happening there also uh with the the rest of what we have here definitely want to show the installation for the other uh pipes and stuff those are also definitely conducting heat so here's the gas and here's the liquid uh definitely not that's the insulated one here's the uh not insulated one so non-insulated insulation pipes which is so confusing they should have named this something else uh definitely doesn't do what it's kind of advertising uh definitely some heat exchange happening there there's also gonna be some red herrings in this data by the way if you were to take a look at a bunch of other stuff here um you could formulate that like oh all of this is kind of regulating out to the same temperature so is there really a reason to choose different materials and the reason why this is a little bit of flawed logic is because you still will have to cool your base and it's a matter of how much cooling you will have to expend to offset the the exchange that's happening here so just because unregulated everything looks red now that doesn't mean that there's no reason to choose one material over the other uh so we'll talk about that a little bit also and this can also look a little bit weird but the uh these chambers have actually achieved a neutral state which is really weird i would expect them all to achieve basically the same neutral state but they didn't uh some of them are dark red and some of them are still in the orange so that's a little bit confusing also uh definitely some weird stuff about the mechanics in this game which is why you can't always just trust the math sometimes you just gotta simulate it out for yourself uh but yeah let's take a look at the actual tiles this is a hundred cycles and the only ones that have made any noticeable change are sedimentary rock and obsidian which should not be weird we've seen that in a lot of other cases as well but the thing about this is that this has been 100 cycles and in the case of most of these if you look at and this is also something i'm going to talk about but if you look at a lot of these some of the temperatures that are in here on this oxygen is actually lower than what we started with which means that the initials uh temperature from some of these tiles imparted itself onto the oxygen that surrounded it because these were all built at around 68. so we're getting like some odd cooling effect going on here from these tiles and the temperature exchange just not happening like i expected um like i also mentioned look at the top of this it's 85 the bottom is 73 which is i just don't i don't understand this um one thing that is interesting is the amount of petroleum that's on these two bottom tiles is basically maximized and the amount that's on the top is not it's only at 13 kilograms which is making the tiles around this much much hotter which tells me that there's either a bug or there's some funny math going on here because i would imagine that the higher volume of petroleum would impart a lot more heat onto these tiles than the lower volume that just doesn't really make sense in my brain so if i'm just totally missing something let me know here but this is super weird for me to see um yeah i don't know what to make of that but the thing that is noteworthy here is that they're all pretty much on the same order of magnitude when it comes to the surrounding temperature of each of these i'm not seeing any of these that are saying these are clear winners and losers after uh running for 100 cycles to the point that i would actually recommend building insulated tiles out of different materials i know it's going to sound really weird if you really care that much the igneous rock and the ceramic are definitely doing way better than some of these other ones if you just look at the tiles themselves but you have to just look at the rate so if we looked at the insulation for uh pipes and stuff like that if you go back in the video these were all pretty much about red at like cycle i think it was in the 20s when i checked back i'd have to note that but pretty much everything was already in the red by that point and this is still at cycle 100 and it's barely changed so as far as tiles if you really care i would say igneous rock and ceramic are where you want to go but for the rest the tiles at least in this experiment i'm not seeing a noteworthy enough difference to say that you should go out of your way to use igneous rock or go out of your way to use ceramic i think if you have like granite for example or sandstone for example making insulated tiles out of those seems fine um i don't know that may be a little bit controversial so i'm still going to caveat it with if you really care use igneous rock or ceramic as far as anything else goes i don't have a lot of other commentary to make as far as what i've seen so i'm just going to give a little bit of a quick wrap-up on this entire video so let's do something a little bit fancy that i don't typically do and that is let's go through whoops let's go through some conclusions uh conclusion number one is that uh best for encouraging any heat transfer i'm gonna do this kind of a little bit of a ward style uh use any any metal or radiant tiles which all radiant ties are made out of metal so i'm just explaining in both different ways or pipes uh they've all seemed about the same uh to the point that i don't think there's a real reason to kind of split hairs between those the second part of this is that sedimentary rock and obsidian are also not terrible which are regular tiles which can save you on some precious metals that you might not be able to afford so if you need to do some cooling or if you need to do some heating for whatever reason those are fine also uh the next part is the best insulator for tile is literally any insulated tile i'm going to stick by that and say that like if you're having a hard time finding igneous rock or you're running out of it or you don't want to make ceramic then making it out of like granite or sandstone or something like that is fine i'm not seeing enough evidence here to tell me that uh you should be worrying about splitting hairs especially over this the course of 100 cycles raising some oxygen that surrounds it by a few degrees is not a big deal and you should really be saving those materials for your pipes which is a much bigger deal so let's talk about that best insulator for pipes igneous rock or ceramic and i'm leaving off insulation because insulation is just not practical in a majority of your runs unless you get to the deep deep late game and really care that much about it so speaking of which uh most practical insulator because you don't have to manufacture it i'm going to give that to igneous rock for sure so if you need to build uh pipes especially and you need to not have any heat transfer if you can possibly help it use igneous rock unless you want to manufacture ceramic best overall insulation this should be pretty obvious uh if you want to ever get to any super deep late game builds where uh temperature exchange actually matters that much i would say you could manufacture insulation but it's very very very expensive uh i'm going to do a couple of goldeneye esk awards here for those of you that played goldeneye 007 back on nintendo 64. this is the most useless award mercury and iso resin mercury because it literally melted as soon as i placed it also you can't use it in the game anyway and iso resin because it has such a terrible melting point so yeah both of those get my most useless award and also the most average joe award which was not an award in goldeneye but it probably should have been in the sense that of like you didn't do anything really remarkable this game good job uh i would just give that to granite granite's also very widely available so that's something you could definitely use so those are my conclusions uh that's pretty much what i got let me know if you guys have any feedback on anything and i did notice a small mistake earlier in the video by the way where i said that i thought the thermal conductivity implied that it would not share its temperature out with something else um and i was trying to differentiate the two of those i don't know if that's true in this game so that might have not been correct but as far as i can tell some of their mechanics and some of their displayed numbers aren't really true anyway so that's about the best i got uh i'll be back with some more tutorials here really soon i don't have a fancy way of doing this other than just turning these all off and going to something else that's more interesting uh so i'm just gonna do this really awkwardly and maybe we'll go get a shot of jean here real quick just to be interesting but yeah i'll be back with some more videos here really soon please let me know if there's anything in particular you want to see um and i'll see you guys back very soon like i mentioned all right that's it that's all i got [Music] goodbye [Music] you

Channel: Magnet

Views: 16,947

Keywords: Oxygen Not Included, Tutorial, Guide, Heating, Cooling, Tiles, Pipes, Materials

Id: T2gCD4haGWQ

Length: 49min 23sec (2963 seconds)

Published: Fri Jan 01 2021

Reddit Comments

[u/qwertyguyasdf]

Very cool video by Magnet (I highly recommend his tutorial series) where he tests out the insulative properties of different materials.

Basic conclusions: Outside of very specific late game builds, it doesn't really matter for the most part. Most metal will conduct equally well. Nearly every insulation tile will insulate equally well. The only real highlights are igneous rock and ceramic pipes for a small boost in insulated pipes, and sedimentary rock and obsidian for a poor man's radiant pipe in the early game before you get refined metal production going.

[u/7hund3r53n]

I stopped watching when he announced that lead is a better material for radiant piping than aluminium. He doesn't understand TC and SHC sufficiently to setup a proper experiment and people shouldn't follow his advice.

[u/BDelacroix]

Funny. "I'm going to do one at a time". Then a minute later, "I'm going to do them all at the same time".

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I wonder if it would have been better to have the mediums to transfer to should have been the same. IE: Petroleum inside and outside the pipes so that you eliminate the energy absorption characteristics of the end product materials. It might account for the differences seen in the liquid test vs. the gas test.