Where Does God Fit in an Infinite Universe Brian Cox and Joe Rogan

well I think the distribution of information has changed so radically over the last couple hundred years and particularly over the last 20 that you're seeing these trends now where more people are inclined to abandon a lot of the even if you remain religious or remain you keep a sought or a belief in a higher power people are more inclined to entertain these concepts of science and to take in the understanding of what has been observed and documented and written about among scholars and academics and there's more there's more people accepting that have you look at the number of agnostic people now as opposed to 20-30 years ago it's it's it's rising it's changing and I think there's also because of you and because of neil degrasse tyson and you know sean carroll and all these other people that are public intellectuals that are discussing this kind of stuff people like myself have a far greater understanding of this then I think people did 30 40 years ago yeah and that trend is continuing I think in a very good direction yeah I mean I don't you know what we should say is that science we don't know all the answers so we don't know where the laws of nature came from we don't know why the universe began in the way that it did if he indeed had a beginning so I don't know why the Big Bang was very very highly ordered which is ultimately as Sean Carroll actually you mention him often points out he's right that the whole difference the only difference between the past in the future the so-called arrow of time is that in the past the universe was really ordered and it's getting more disordered and that's that that that necessary state of order at the start of the universe which is really the reason that we exist that's the reason because the universe began in a particular form we don't know why that was so we we will probably find out at some point and it will be something to do with the laws of nature but so I'm always careful I don't want to science can sometimes sound arrogant right it can sometimes sound like it's the it's the discipline of saying to people while you're not right yes and it's not the discipline of saying you're not right it's saying this is what we found out yeah so I like to say that it provides a framework within which if you want to philosophize or you want to do theology or you want to you want to ask these deep questions about why we're here you have to operate within that framework because it's just an observational framework yes everything we've said is stuff we've discovered it's not stuff that someone made up we we you know we understand nuclear physics we can build nuclear reactors for example so we understand the physics of stars so we understand that the Stars built the carbon-oxygen and we know how they did it and we can see it because as I said before we can if you look far out into the universe you're looking way back in time and as you look back in time you see less carbon and less oxygen so we have a direct observation that in the earliest universe there wasn't any because we can see it and now we see that there is some and we know how it was made so I think it's so it's important to be humble when you're talking about science and you're not saying this is the way that it is I mean you own it sense but you know it's not it's not able to answer ultimate questions at the moment it's not able to answer even whether the universe had a beginning or not we don't even know that and I gave a talk to him I was asked to give a talk to some bishops in the UK about cosmology and I said yeah that'd be great fun and so when I gave him this talk and and at the end I said I got some questions so if the universe is eternal and it might be it might not have had a beginning if it's eternal what place is there for a creator you know that's that's a good question Brian I didn't they didn't have an answer of course right an eternal creator but yeah but I think that these it might be eternal and we might discover that so we don't even know at the moment but we might so I think my point is that these other human desire very natural to religions a natural thing right people use all across the world in all different cultures but I think that in the 21st century it and religion needs to operate within that framework if it's going if it's going to operate there are still great mysteries and it is appropriate to think about what it means to be human and I'll give me my view of what it means but but I don't think the problem comes when you when your your theology or your philosophy forces you to deny some facts some measurement now these things are measurements we're not saying it's not my opinion the universe is 13.8 billion years old we measured it it's like having an opinion between the distance from LA to New York no you can't have an opinion on that right know what it is and it's the same you know it's like you know that these things you know it's as if people say the Earth's flat or whatever there so it isn't and we've measured it so it's just stop it either sir but that doesn't mean you can't be spiritual and you can't be really just I was saying it doesn't mean you can't believe in god or gods I did it that's not ruled out

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Published: Mon Jan 28 2019