>>> I'M NOT A CANDIDATE, WE'LL SEE IF AND WHEN THAT CHANGES. WHAT I SEE, THAT'S A LOT OF SUGAR, HA. PEOPLE ACQUIRE SILLS IN SPITE OF SLAVERY, NOT BECAUSE OF IT, AND THEY USE THOSE WHEN THEY ACHIEVE FREEDOM. WITHIN TEN MINUTES OF ME BEING THE CITY, I SEE SOME GUY RELIEVING HIMSELF ON THE SIDEWALK WITH NUMBER TWO. [LAUGHTER] >> DO YOU REMEMBER RHONDA SANTAS, DOES THAT NAME RING ABOUT? THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY VOTERS DO, BUT THEY'RE NOT FOND MEMORIES. HE'S PULLING IN A WHOPPING 6% OF PRIMARY VOTERS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE POLLS, AND HE SKIPPED THE STATE AND WHAT'S -- THERE'S A MUCH MORE ROBUST 7%. HE'S GOTTEN SO BAD THAT AFTER A SECOND PLACE FINISH IN IOWA THAT THE TOP DESANTIS SUPER PAC NAMED NEVER BACK DOWN, LAID OFF MUCH OF HIS STAFF IN THE STATES. IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE, THERE WAS A TIME, THE FAR-RIGHT FLORIDA GOVERNOR'S RACE TALLIES. A YEAR AGO, HE WAS BEATING DONALD TRUMP HEAD TO HEAD BY DOUBLE DIGITS IN THE -- A HUGE CAMPAIGN, 100 AND $60 MILLION RAISED BY LAST MONTH. THE PROBLEM WAS THAT THE MORE THAT PEOPLE HEARD RON DESANTIS, SAW RON DESANTIS, AND INTERACTED WITH HIM, THE LESS THAT THEY LIKE THEM. EVEN NIKKI HALEY WON'T DEFAME NOW. HE RAN A TERRIBLE CAMPAIGN, SQUANDERED MILLIONS, I NEED TO POINT OUT, WORSE THAN THAT, THERE IS I THINK PLAUSIBLY AN ACTUAL DEATH TOLL ASSOCIATED WITH THE DESANTIS CAMPAIGN FOR PRESIDENT. ONE OF HIS KEY PLANS IN THIS RACE WAS TO BEAT TRUMP -- AND A BIG PART OF THAT STRATEGY WAS RUNNING TO TRUMP'S RIGHT ON THE COVID PANDEMIC MEASURES, THAT INCLUDED TRASHING THE VACCINES, THE TRUMP VACCINES, AND HE'S STILL DOING IT. >> THEY LIE TO US ABOUT THE COVID SHOTS. REMEMBER? THEY SAID IF YOU TAKE A COVID SHOT, YOU WILL NOT GET COVID, HOW TRUE IS THAT? NOT AT ALL. NOW, EVERY BOOSTER YOU TAKE YOU'RE MORE LIKELY TO GET COVID AS A RESULT OF IT. >> NO, THAT'S NOT TRUE. THAT IS NOT TRUE. THAT IS FALSE. DANGEROUSLY FALSE. BUT THAT'S WHO DESANTIS IS. HE ALSO YELLED AT KIDS FOR WEARING MASKS IN A PANDEMIC, HE HIRED A STATE SURGEON GENERAL WHO SPREAD COMPLETE, TOTALLY NUTTY LIES THAT THE MRI VACCINE WOULD INFILTRATE YOUR DNA. IT ALL HAD A TANGIBLE EFFECT ON THE HEALTH OF RESIDENTS IN AMERICANS. LOOK AT THIS CHART, IT SHOWS THE VERY FIRST COVID WAVE THAT HIT AFTER THE VACCINE BECAME AVAILABLE, AFTER DESANTIS STARTED BASHING THE VACCINES. AS FLORIDA VACCINATION RATES FLAGGED, ITS DEATH RATE TOPPED OUT A NEARLY THREE TIMES THE REST OF AMERICA. 87,000 FLORIDIANS HAVE DIED UNDER DESANTIS'S WATCH, 6% OF NEW HAMPSHIRE REPUBLICAN VOTES. IT'S EASY TO LAUGH AT DESANTIS AND HIS TERRIBLE CAMPAIGN. BUT IT COST MORE THAN HUNDRED $50 MILLION AND HIS DIGNITY, IT ALSO COST ACTUAL LIVES. JOINING ME NOW IS DAVID JOLLY -- SERVED ALONGSIDE RON DESANTIS IN THE HOUSE. EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE I'M REMINDED THAT HE STILL GOVERNOR OF THE THIRD LARGEST STATE, PRESUMABLY WITH A DAY JOB THAT HE SHOULD BE ATTENDING TO. AND THE SURGEON GENERAL IS STILL THE SURGEON GENERAL, IT'S JUST SO UTTERLY RECKLESSLY DANGEROUS, INSIDIOUS, AND THAT HE STAFF ABOUT THE COVID VACCINE. >> CHRIS, PERHAPS THE BEST PART OF RON DESANTIS IS HERE ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL AS IT KEPT HIM OUT OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA. HE DID LESS HARM HERE. AS YOU IDENTIFIED, RON DESANTIS IS A UNIQUELY UNLIKABLE POLITICIAN. THE WORDS OF THE BRICK OF PROBLEMS HAVE RARELY BEEN MORE PRECEDENT -- BECAUSE THIS IS A GOVERNOR WHOSE FIRST SAID ON THE EIGHT-DAY, GOD CREATED RHONDA SANTA'S, AND NOW HE'S IN THIS RACE RUNNING TO BE THE LAST ONE TO DROP OUT. HOW DO WE GET THERE. ? LOOK, HE HAD A 19-POINT WIN IN HIS REELECTION IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, A HISTORIC WHEN, HE DID IT AS YOU MENTIONED BASED ON THE POLITICS OF COVID, ON CULTURE WARS, AND ON A WEEK DEMOCRATIC PARTY, NONE OF THOSE ELEMENTS OF REELECTION WERE ACTUALLY TRANSLATE-ABLE TO A PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN. HE ALSO HAD THE VANITY THAT CAME FROM BEING A POWERFUL GOVERNOR, THE MOST POWERFUL WE'VE SEEN IN A COUPLE DECADES. AND THEN THE RON BISHOP HIS PARTNER ON THE TRAIL, HIS SPOUSE, YOU SEE A CANDIDATE WHO THOUGHT HE WAS GONNA STEP IN THE RACE AND REPLACE DONALD TRUMP. BUT HE MISCALCULATED THAT, HE THOUGHT THAT THE PARTY WOULD GET PAST DONALD TRUMP, HE THOUGHT THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE WOULD SINK DONALD TRUMP, AND HE THOUGHT THAT HE CAN ENGAGE IN A SLOG, AND NONE OF THOSE STRATEGIES HAVE WORKED. AND NOW IT'S A POLITICAL DEATH LAP -- I DON'T KNOW IF HE LEAVES AFTER NEW HAMPSHIRE, I WONDER IF BOTH HALEY AND DESANTIS DROP OUT ON THE SOUTH CAROLINA. EITHER WAY, HE'S ON HIS WAY OUT. >> ONE OF THINGS I WANT TO TALK TONIGHT'S CAUSE YOU'VE KNOWN DESANTIS FOR A WHILE, YOU ARE OUR REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN IN FLORIDA, YOU'VE BEEN ACTIVE IN POLITICS AND THE STATE, YOU KNOW HIM. YOU VERY EARLY ON, IN FACT WE DID A LIVE SHOWDOWN IN MIAMI, YOU'RE LIKE, THIS GUY IS NOT VERY LIKABLE, AND NOT VERY GOOD AT CAMPAIGNING. I DON'T THINK THIS IS GONNA SELL, YOU SAID IT EARLY ON. I DO WONDER HOW MUCH THEY WERE STRATEGIC MISCALCULATIONS ARE ULTIMATELY THIS GUY DOESN'T HAVE THE APPEAL TO DO IT. >> LOOK, SOME PEOPLE ARE BAD AT RETAIL POLITICS, HE IS, WE KNOW THAT. MAYBE HIS OTHER STRAINS BUT IT'S THAT RAW CONDEMNATION OF ARROGANCE, ANGER, AND BOTH ARE VERY POWERFUL. IF YOU CONSIDER'S CULTURE WARS, WITHIN HIS CULTURE WARS, IS HIS PERSONAL ETHOS THAT HE KNOWS BEST HOW YOU SHOULD RAISE YOUR KIDS, WHAT YOUR FAMILY SHOULD BELIEVE. HIS ATTACKS ON THE MIGRANT COMMUNITY IS AN ATTACK ON DIVERSITY, AN ATTACK ON VOTING RIGHTS, IT'S AN ATTACK ON EMPOWERING COMMUNITIES OF COLOR TO EXERCISE THEIR FRANCHISE AND PARTICIPATE IN DEMOCRACY. HIS ATTACK ON EDUCATION AND -- IS AN ATTACK ON THE INDEPENDENTS OF PARENTING, MY WIFE AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE IN CHARGE OF FOR OUR CHILDREN. IF YOU TAKE CULTURE ROARS TOO FAR, IT'S IN THAT VEIN, HE CHOSE CULTURE WARS BECAUSE IT WAS A WAY TO RUN ADJACENT TO DONALD TRUMP IN A SPACE THAT TRUMP DID NOT OWN, BUT IT DIDN'T WORK, IT BACKFIRED ON HIM, AND IT'S GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY THAT IT DEAD. >> AGAIN, IT'S VERY EASY FOR CANDIDATES TO CONFUSE PREFERENCE WITH INTENSITY IN POLITICS. YOU RUN A POLL AND THEY SAY, LOOK, REPUBLICAN PARTY VOTERS AGREE WITH YOU ON HEALTH CARE FOR TRANS YOUTH. AND THEY DO, REPUBLICAN PARTY VOTERS DO AGREE WITH DESANTIS ON THAT. I THINK THEY'RE WRONG. IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING -- EVEN TO YOUR PRIMARY VOTERS. HONESTLY, THIS STUFF, THE OBSESSIVENESS AND THE NARROWNESS OF THAT FOCUS REALLY DID END UP COSTING HIM. >> CHRIS, LOOK, THE TRANS ISSUE IS A RELATIVELY NEW ONE FOR OUR CULTURE. YOU CAN SEE THE GOOD FAITH ACTORS TRYING TO ACHIEVE EQUITY, AND THE BAD FAITH ACTORS TRYING TO ATTACK. IT I SUPPOSE THERE'S A SILVER LINING IN THE POLITICS OF RAN DISSENT DISSES RACE FOR THE WHITE HOUSE, IT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU -- THE TRANS COMMITY, THEY'LL TAKE YOU TO THE WHITE HOUSE. >> MY FIRST INSTINCT IS ACT AS A CANDIDATE, I KNOW MY COUNTRY, THE MAN IS TOO SHORT TO BE
