What Happened To Alissa Turney? PART TWO

I already told you before Liz's mother died she brought her to the doctor to get checked for sexual abuse as far as Sarah knows that Chuck came back negative but there must have been something going on the made Barbra feel compelled to take her daughter there and then we have Alice's third grade teacher Diane Boardman who Alice had told at the age of nine but her father was having sex with her now this should have been a wrap as far as I'm concerned this is a teacher they're there they're trained to handle things like this they're trained to know what to do and who to talk to and who to go to but instead of going to CPS instead of going to the school administration Diane Boardman went to Michael Turney why did she go to Michael Turney because she was sleeping with Michael Turney Diane Boardman who was married it was having an affair with Michael Turney and Sarah remembers her being around quite a bit she's even in some of their home videos so Diane Borden was Alyssa's teacher and my dad's first girlfriend after my mom died in his first and last girlfriend and that was serious and I loved her to be honest I thought she was great I'd seen her at school function she was always super nice she had a daughter that was my age she had a son that was Alyssa's age so everything releasing to fit in we would go camping we would have birthdays together she took a cedar haircut and she was very involved in our lives and we were very attached to her um at a certain point it's my understanding that she was having an affair you know on her husband and my father didn't know according to him and they broke up but during this time when they were still together ELISA went to her and said I'm having sex with my dad and I mean I don't know what her exact reaction was it's my understanding that she did confront my father about it to which my father said oh yeah ELISA the kissed a boy and she thinks that that's having sex um so didn't go any further than that she didn't say anything until the police came and interviewed her many years later you know when the investigation reopened around 2008 and Michael attorney he completely downplays this incident during an interview he doesn't say that the teacher came and said anything he's at a couple neighbors had mentioned to him that ELISA thought she was having sex not with him but just having sex so he approached ELISA about it this is a direct quote from a Mike turn II during that in a you what are you talking to these people like this for ELISA I mean we've had Child Protective Services all over the place since your mother died and she says well yeah dad she says don't you have sex when a boy kisses you and sticks his tongue in your mouth no honey you that's not that's not sex you're not gonna get pregnant laughs but with ELISA you you'd have to you'd have to have known her she was just very naive too many things didn't comprehend the repercussions of what she did and I was very offended by a police officer saying that it made her dangerously socially incompetent it did not it made her more of a task for an parent to protect ELISA as a and keeping her in school and quote I don't speak like that there's a lot of us and ands and weird things that I just wanted to get the cult correct but obviously I don't speak like that I didn't before my mom died I was I was hit by a car and Child Protective Services took me immediately into their care and so that definitely happened and then around 2nd grade I must have been six ELISA would have been about ten I remember CPS came back in our house it was my understanding that a relative had called them saying that we might have been not being fed and not be treated appropriately so I remember that they came in they talked to us and they took us you know one by one to speak to us so they were definitely around there were numerous reports of Child Protective Services do you know who what relative would have called yeah its Manor saying that it was my aunt Teresa and my mother's side you know this is after she's estranged from the family apparently she had talked to my brother John who reported this and John would have been 14 maybe at the time 15 he reported that we didn't have enough food that we weren't being taken care of that he had to get us ready for school that type of thing I mean to which I remember we always had enough food to be honest I don't ever remember like being hungry um but I remember being unkempt and not having to take baths and nobody brushing my hair for an entire summer which is a true story and the neighbor girl came over and brushed it out and yelled at my dad and so I mean yeah I think that there were some screws in to what he said but I was I mean I was six so I can't judge how much food is enough you know I work with kids and I used to work with kids in the foster care system and it's still atrocious like their their mo their motive their motto is like trying to not take away as many kids as possible which I get but it leaves a lot of kids in really bad situations but yeah I mean CPS must have been called throughout our entire lives at least five times if not more including the calls that my father made to them that were pre-emptive I mean I think that comes from her saying I'm gonna call CPS and he says you know watch me I'll do it right now and tell them you're gonna call they're not gonna believe you and when he says I was very offended by a police officer saying that it made her dangerously socially incompetent do we believe that a police officer ever said that I don't think that they said that he says that they stated that in an email which I would love to see this email or like try to get access to his old account um but the thing is in the affidavit from the same detective he accuses of saying this this affidavit written by this detective says that my father said that Alyssa had a DD and then it was probably likely that she didn't have it so why he would say both things doesn't make sense to me when asked if he had a typical parent teen relationship with Alyssa mike answered well I'd like to think it was with the exception of having to watch over Alyssa to make sure that she didn't put herself in harm's way such as her job at jack-in-the-box I mean she's just started a job there and the problem we had was that Alyssa didn't understand the dangers of giving out her phone number to men coming through there the interviewer asks did you go to her place of work to and he responds I certainly did I would go there and check to make sure the interviewer asks what would you do and Mike attorney responds well I didn't catch her doing it the interview asks again yeah but what would you do when you went there and Mike Turney responds just to look at her to watch the where she's working at and make sure everything's okay I'll link the interview and I'll give you the timestamp where he says it but when the interviewer says what did you do when you went there just to look at her he said it's to watch her it's very creepy so this is actual footage of Mike attorney driving to jack-in-the-box where Alyssa worked and recording her while she worked you'll see often times that he will search for her in the building and zoom the camera in on her so that he can find her at times she's just doing her job wiping the table down she's not doing anything wrong she's not leaving she's not talking to anybody shouldn't be and yet he sits there and watches her while she's at work [Applause] jack-in-the-box [Applause] you got me in trouble bad so not only was he recording her without her knowing he was going to work and sitting there and watching her while she was at work to make sure she didn't leave work but as far as we know according to her managers melissa was a good employee she didn't show up late she didn't leave early she didn't miss work so why would he feel the need to go there and watch her possibly to let her know that he was watching possibly to let her know that wherever she went whoever she talked to whatever she did he knew about it he was there remember the letter to her friend where she said that her dad told her that her brother was calling CPS and he knew things and they were all sleeping in the same bed together this is manipulation this is control these are tactics used to scare somebody into thinking that you know more than they know you know more than you actually do and remember those contracts I told you about earlier that he made Alyssa sign what seemed to be standard parental contracts at first but on a closer look there was one item there that was not standard that was not normal and the item that Mike Turney had Alyssa sign her name next to was I've never been molested or abused by my father Michael Turney and this contract was written up and signed and notarized within a month before she went missing and he called CPS a week before she went missing if my daughter calls and says I'm abusing her just ignore her she wants a car and she's mad that I'm not giving her one all the statements that friends and family had made to the police after the fact Alyssa claimed she'd woken up one night bound and gagged with Michael turn e on top of her driving her out to the desert to try and molest her and when she resisted he made her get out and walk home and a nephew of Michael tourney's who had a stayed at the tourney household for six months in the 90s he has a startling story to tell about what he discovered there it was late one night he went to watch a movie there was a bunch of VHS tapes sitting around and he grabbed one those labels dr. Dolittle and he popped it in but what he saw when it started playing horrified him he saw a girl that he claims was Alyssa Turney her face was covered by newspaper she was naked from the waist up and she was lying there still not moving he says there was another girl in this video a girl with darker hair about the same age also with newspaper covering her face also naked from the waist up now my attorney's nephew he claims that he recognized this girl as being one of Alice's friends from school that he had actually driven them someplace before but he couldn't remember who she was or what her name was and he said straight outs I don't care if a newspaper was covering their faces that was ELISA I know it was ELISA they were just laying there motionless he wasn't sure if they were asleep or if they were unconscious but Mike Turney was in that room on the videotape just sitting there watching the nephew his name is David to this day he feels incredibly weighed down by the guilts that he didn't grab that videotape that he didn't tell somebody then he was just so shocked by it and he was going through stuff in his own life at that time that he pretty much just put it back and he packed his things and he left and he never came back to the tourney household but he is pretty sure that it was ELISA on that tape Mike Turney denies the existence of the tape he calls his nephew were drunk basically you know trying to discredit him but there were other tapes found in my attorney's house that are not made up that are very true so it's my understanding that they found a snuff film that was specifically recorded back-to-back to show the rape and murder of this woman so like this certain part was dilute whether he did that himself or didn't I don't know I mean he had access to equipment like that and he had recorded things off of TV and VHS to DVD my entire life so he's very skilled at that so it's entirely possible it's also managing that they found sex tapes from like prostitutes and possible old girlfriends um which again like your sex life your business I think this the snuff film is scarier than him recording anything sexual with girlfriends but yeah I mean these these things were found and he admits to being a very sexual man um but yeah the snuff film takes it to a different level that's really scary he's had access to some like black-market video tapes for a long time and what I mean by that was the my brother's had the first Star Wars movie on VHS like black market before it came out on VHS I remember he got the movie Titanic before it came out to BHS back in the day so I think he had resources and people that he might have met at like gun shows and they were able to get him things like this social security card in this driver's license and freaking Star Wars before it came out in the seventies like I know it seems like kind of a small deal now with you know everything you can pirate from the internet but that's like that's hard to find Star Wars in the seventies before it comes out and BHS like that's pretty intense so he had access to things like that so in my head I'm thinking he probably met somebody at a gun show or had a friend that had similar interests and that they're sharing these types of resources Mike was so overprotective and controlling with Elissa and he wasn't like that with any of his other kids ever and maybe you'd think oh well it's different you know fathers are more more protective of their daughters but he wasn't like that with Sarah either Sarah says that she was pretty much allowed to do whatever she wanted even though Mike would always be worried about Alyssa doing drugs or drinking beer he would buy the beer for parties for Sarah she tells the story once when they were in Costco and at this point her boyfriend was living with her at Mike's house they had the master bedroom and she said to her dad hey you know you should get me a mini-fridge and stack it with beer and he simply looked at her and said okay what color mini-fridge do you want and what kind of beer do you want in it so he wasn't this overprotective smothering parent with any of his other kids he was that way with Alyssa because he was abusing her in my opinion and he didn't want her to tell anyone so he didn't want her to have friends and he didn't want her to go out and he didn't want her to be in a position where he didn't know where she was and what she was doing at all times and he wanted her to know that he knew what she was doing and where she was at all times so she'd feel less safe to confide in anybody but you know what she did confide in people she confided in a lot of people and nobody did anything my turn II did all he could to discredit Alyssa to everybody that he talked to he would call her stupid a phone call where he's talking to another guy which i think is his brother and he called her a stupid [ __ ] who's a video tape where sara is recording and Alissa yells to her sister Sarah dad's a pervert and Mike doesn't respond to this at all well once he realizes that Sarah is still recording he acts strange and he tries to get it away from her and stop the recording and he yells something over to Alissa that may be incredibly uncomfortable the whole the old video tape may be uncomfortable but you take a look for yourself and let me know what you think the red button alright hit the red button now I know I know I know good hit the red button I'm a cookie give me the camera it and you're still recording and Lissa is stupid [ __ ] and this is a stupid [ __ ] in my opinion my attorney had been sexually abusing his stepdaughter from a very young age and he did all he could to exert as much control and influence on her as he could get away with to make sure she didn't tell anyone and if she did no one would believe her he told everybody she had a learning disability he told everybody she had a DB told everybody she was rebellious that she didn't understand the consequences of her actions she would say things that weren't true that she lied he did everything in his power to make everybody think that oh this attorney was a problem child a juvenile delinquent somebody who couldn't be trusted somebody who if she possibly ever came forward and said my father is molesting me people might not believe her because you know she's a juvenile delinquent her father says so and it seems like this kind of abuse has been going on for generations in the tourney family I'm going to switch gears for a moment and go back several years and talk about a woman named Donna Russel Donna Russel was 14 when she met and fell in love with a 17-year old James Attorney Mike tourney's brother from the moment Donna was born she was physically and mentally abused she was told by her parents that she wasn't wanted they've never wanted her she was neglected she was treated like crap and she was made to feel like she didn't matter when she was four she saw her father put a gun to her mother's throat and when she was eight she saw her father stick a gun in her mother's stomach she explains that this is why she believes she ended up in a relationship with somebody who was equally as abusive mentally and physically it was all she knew and maybe it was all she thought that she deserved now this next story it's it's very upsetting and it's told by Donna so I'm not saying it's true I'm not saying it happened I'm telling you what Donna says happened and it gives some insight into the mind of James turn II remember brother of Michael turn II according to Donna she also had been sexually abused as a child by her brother and her parents knew about it they knew about it and they didn't do anything in the end to stop it but when Donna started seeing James he was older he was 17 she was 14 and her mother didn't like it so her mother threatened to turn James into the police and Dan I had already confided in James the guy that she thought she loved about the abuse from her brother and about how her parents knew about it and instead of comforting her instead of being there for her instead of getting her as far away from it as possible James Turney took her and her brother out into a field and told them to have sex he claimed to Donna that he did this for them for their relationship so they could be together unbothered by her mother that if her mother ever went to the police about you know James and his age that he could simply just put forth the proof that it was actually Donna's brother who was sexually involved with her and that's why if she had been physically examined it would look as if she had been sexually abused but really I don't think that's the truth I don't think if that's what he told her I don't think it's the truth I think he did it for his own sake amusement in his own sick enjoyment because James and Michael Turney have quite a bit in common Donna married James and she was 16 they had four kids and it wasn't a good marriage he was abusive he was neglectful it was just a bad marriage he was possessive he was controlling and he shared his brother's need to document everything to record everything he also had cameras all over her he also was very specific about keeping everything and writing everything down by the time she was 28 Donna had filed for divorce and she was living with her mother but she had to go back to the house she shared with James and her children to get some of her things On February 10th 1974 James turn II shot his wife Donna three times there was a few different versions about the story how it went down who was there but I think one thing is pretty clear you don't accidentally shoot your wife three times in your bedroom it doesn't accidentally happen according to Donna and James daughter Renee who is 11 at the time her Uncle Mike had come to pick the kids up and take them to McDonald's they were still in the driveway when they heard the shots happen inside the house so Renee ran back in she ran into her parents bedroom she threw open the door just in time to see her mother lying in a puddle of her own blood facedown and her father pointing a gun and her mother about to take a third shot but the opening of the door startled him so his hand kind of like twitched and the shot didn't hit home I think it ended up in her hip or something like that Renee believes to this day that her father meant to kill her mother that he was trying to punish her for leaving him Renee claims she ran back out told Mike to come to the bedroom and help but like refused to so a couple of neighbors actually had to take Donna to the hospital in their car they didn't want to wait for the ambulance to get there and allegedly they didn't feel comfortable leaving her there with Mike and James so they took her to the hospital in their car and according to Renee after they've left to bring Donna Mike and James and a couple other family members they started covering everything up they started getting rid of evidence including the handgun that had been used to shoot her so it is Renee's belief that James Turner meant to kill his wife Donna and that Mike helped him by coming to get the kids so they wouldn't be around and then helping to cover it up after and this would have been when Mike was still a police officer Donna survived what she did not press charges she was obviously afraid in my opinion and for some reason the DA did not choose to pursue prosecuting James Turney for shooting his wife three times which like I said doesn't happen accidentally Donna tells the story a little differently she claims that yes James Turney did shoot her three times before he shot her he thoroughly beat her but it wasn't Renee who came in and stopped her from being killed it was Mike Turney for some reason - Donna Mike attorney is still this good guy he had nothing to do with what happened to her he had nothing to do with covering it up and he always kept in contact with her after and and kept telling her he had nothing to do with it he wrote her letters up on letters saying you know I had nothing to do with this I hope you know I care about you very much I'm so sorry that your daughter Renee thinks I had something to do with us hopefully one day she'll come to terms with the fact that I did it and that in itself is a very guilty tell to me because if you had nothing to do with it and the person already doesn't believe you had anything to do with that why do you keep maintaining and restating innocence and your lack of involvement so I mean he has had a weird relationship with his brother they would go back and forth and argue about different things and there would be times in our lives where we weren't allowed to speak to them and other times our lives where we were and so it seems like a typical family type of situation where it's it's hot cold but they were both really bad men they there are a lot of people that have come forward and said that they did some really awful things together and that they think that it's entirely possible that they conspired together to kill ELISA and hide her body for example I reconnected with one of my cousin's a few years ago I hadn't seen her in years and she's like hi so good to see you I think my dad could have killed ELISA with your dad what do you think like literally the first thing she said to me because my uncle was also known to videotape his children he molested his children according to his children so he's a very sick man and my father was too and they were very close and thick as thieves is what everybody says and I wouldn't put it past them to do any of those things I'm gonna read you a letter from James tourney ran to Donna it's titled Donna Marie tourney forever have you found peace of mind or been able to sleep yet I sure hope you have because I haven't been able to I hope your mind is open and you can see what the fruits of true love have brought to you just think what the fruits of true hate can bring to you I sure hope when you find true love you don't get in too deep because you could lose that love like I lost mine maybe you will go one of either way maybe let hate catch up to you or maybe self-destruction would be better it would be quicker love you always so listen this this letter was written in 1974 whether it was written before he shot her or after it's it's a threat and it shows the amount of control that he's trying to exert over her just the fact that he titled it Donna Marie attorney forever even if you divorce me even if you change your name back to Russell you are still going to be my wife you are still mine that's possession the entire letter is not so thinly veiled threat as far as I'm concerned I mean every single sentence I can find something threatening and aggressive just think what the fruits of true hate can bring you what does that mean I sure hope when you find true love you don't get in too deep because you could lose that love like I lost mine sounds like a threat to me maybe self-destruction would be better it would be quicker just as Michael Turney made ELISA feel that nobody would believe her that he was always watching and he was always controlling everything and he was the puppet master James Turney is trying to make his wife feel the same way I'm watching I know what's happening in your mind no matter if your last name is different no matter if you're alive or dead you're my wife forever you'll never get away she didn't see her kids for 10 years because he wouldn't allow it he told her if she tried to contact them but he would kill her and he'd kill the kids she believed him and why wouldn't you I mean the guy shot you three times why wouldn't you believe that this man is capable of anything and you just want to protect your kids I guess when she saw her son at his high school graduation she didn't even recognize him and as soon as James Turney found out she'd been there he kicked his son out and disowned him Renee James tourney's daughter believes that her father intended to kill her mother and that he's gotten away with murder in the past Renee claims that her father molested one of her sisters and one of her stepsisters when asked if she too was molested she says she doesn't remember most likely she's blacked it out if it happened she no longer has contact with her family Renee's younger sister Jamie also has made some allegations against Michael Turney she says when she was 13 Mike Turney asked if she would come and live with him for the summer to help him watch the boys now at this point this was very early on Sara wasn't born yet ELISA wasn't born yet it was just Mike and the boys Jamie agreed she would love to go and stay there for the summer he had a pool he was a cool uncle they were planning a trip to Disneyland so she agreed and things were pretty normal but one night he came in and he asked her if she would give him a backrub and she says at this point things were pretty normal the boys were there in the living room watching TV she rubbed his back a little bit as she walked on his back this is an abnormal my brother always had me walk on his back when I was younger because I guess it's just a thing that cracks your back and she said everything was normal and fine and he put his shirt back on and he went back on with his night but later when she was in bed laying there trying to sleep he walked to the door of her room and asked are you asleep and she said I'm trying to go to sleep and he said well I was just wondering if you wanted to back her up too creepy right so your uncle is standing in your room it's dark it's nighttime you're in bed and he's asking you if you want a back rub and Jamie found it creepy as well she told her mother she told her father they brought her home and she was not sent back there again she says yes Michael journey never actually physically abused her and molested her but she saw the signs she knew the signs because she had been molested by her own father since a very young age she ended up finally leaving the house at 17 but she claims that the abuse went right up until then everybody in the family knew nobody wanted to talk about it how far does this abuse go back in the tourney family according to Donna James tourney's ex-wife it went all the way up to James and Michael's mother it was reports that James Turney was being sexually abused by his mother so it appears that this cycle just keeps going down and down and down and it also appears that these girls who are being completely and horribly hurt and betrayed by the people they should trust most in the world they're being groomed they're being made to think that this is what life is and this is normal and that's what I believe Mike Turney was trying to do with ELISA I think it's entirely possible I don't know what's true and what's not um what the family rumor is that sexual molestation is run really really deep in the family and specifically I've heard the story of my grandmother and my uncle James um so again I don't know but I wouldn't put it past them and the fact that they've continued on this tradition of molesting their children is really telling to me I mean we know that these things happen in cycles and in patterns and then it goes on for generations and I think that's most likely what happened what's even more horrific is Sara attorney believes that there may be a possibility and Michel journey was responsible or involved in the death of her mother Barbara now Barbara had lung cancer so she was sick and she had been sent home she knew she was dying but the timing of when she did die was very suspicious she died the last day of February the day before her life insurance policy would lapse I'm gonna have Sarah tell you a little bit more about that it was probably about a year ago that um my aunt's really concerned some expressed some concerns about my mother's death because my entire life obviously I knew that my mother died of cancer and I didn't think much more of that it was a pretty quick Turner I think she was diagnosed and passed away within a year it was very sudden on the family and I have very little memories of it but I know that you know we took her to California for a specialist out in Redding California so she could be closer and then she came home to die um and what I'm told is that during this time my grandmother my mother's mother and my aunt Lynette had come out to the house to take care of my my mother and the kids while she was dying to help my father out you know there's six kids in the house it's a little overwhelming um so it's my understanding that what happened was my father deviated from the liquid morphine schedule she was given liquid morphine orally and he created his own type of chart that deviated from you know whatever is said on the bottle and they say that he was under dosing her and then overdosing her so that it seemed like she was in a lot of pain and then he would give her more um and they were very scared they they said that my mother expressed concern and that she was framed of my father at this point so it got to the point where my mother's mom laid down on the floor next to my mother's hospital bed in the living room so that she could feel if my father was stepping over her to get to the daughter and so we got really intense and during this time my aunt Lynette alleges that my father drugged and raped her so a lot of things happened and so by the time the day came that my mother died this is what I was told that my grandmother's still laying on the ground next to her hospital bed but they go out to have a cigarette my grandmother and my aunt go out and have a cigarette and leaving my mother alone in the house with my father they come back and my mother is freaking out begging them to call 9-1-1 because she's dying and then she passes away so they think that he gave her an overdose of morphine which in my head you know it's obviously really really hard to hear that she didn't die peacefully I always kind of thought that she did I was never told that she freaked out they wanted to call 9-1-1 and in my head it doesn't seem like a way that someone from cancer passes away it's my understanding that it's usually a slow process they eventually accept it and then a lot of the times they just die peacefully as opposed to freaking out and asking them to call 9-1-1 which seems more consistent with being given overdose of morphine yeah why would she ask them to call 9-1-1 if she was sick and dying and she knew she was dying there's no reason to call 9-1-1 if you know and it seemed a very short time between when she got diagnosed and when when she passed if she had left anything behind in writing that she wanted you guys to know like did she leave letters for you guys or instructions with her sister or her mother or what should happen with you guys after ever seeing anything like I don't want my kids to be with Mike because it didn't seem like they had a super great marriage was there anything like that yeah so it's pretty well known that they were going to get divorced before she was diagnosed with cancer and my aunt's say that she specifically told them to not leave Alyssa with my dad specifically Alyssa not John not me specifically Alyssa but as far as they know that there were no written instructions about what to do with us it's my understand that letters do exist that I'm still trying to get from my aunt's that talk about the time when she was dying you know it was a letter writing time we're talking the early nineties they live in a different state that's how they're communicating especially if the phone's being recorded but what I did want to mention also was that aside from family rumors and aside from these stories I think that the few most damning pieces of evidence in my mother's death or the fact that we know that she died one day before her life insurance policy was due to lapse we have this documentation she died in the last day of February which was the last day that her life insurance would be valid she died that day another really damning fact to me was that my entire life my father told me he was going to sue the tobacco companies for killing my mother because she had been a smoker since she was 14 developed lung cancer and died so after she died he didn't request an autopsy which would have most definitely been like his his smoking gun you know I mean how do you sue the tobacco companies without an autopsy stating that she died from using tobacco so the life insurance policy not getting an autopsy it all looks really suspicious everything points to the fact that Alyssa did not run away and Michael Turney the last person who saw her had plenty of motive to make sure she wasn't around to tell her story he'd abused her for years she was growing up she was trying to become more independent she was looking to her future where she would be out from under his roof under his thumb and under the prison of silence he'd forced her into he knew she was growing up she wasn't the little girl anymore he could scare into silence he'd spent years manipulating her into thinking she had no power and then no one would believe her he's been years letting her know that everywhere she went he was watching every friend she got close to he would cut it off he didn't want her to have a support system that she could go to for help he want her to feel comfortable enough to confide in anyone that called to CPS a week before she went missing it haunts me because I think that Alyssa finally stood up and said I've had enough this isn't going to happen anymore I'm gonna call CPS and they will believe me I have proof I have something that will show them this is true I don't want this to go on anymore I think Mike Turney knew this time had been coming for years and she would eventually turn him in maybe he had known for years that he would have to get rid of her and he did it at the end of junior year at the last day of school where her classmates will be less likely to notice that she wasn't around and they never went into the house where Alyssa had allegedly last been they never went in there with blood sniffing dogs are luminol they brought cadaver dogs to the back yard but why would Mike Turney bury Alyssa in the backyard he's way too smart way too manipulative and way too paranoid for that they never brought blood sniffing dogs inside to see if there had been a crime scene at one point to spray luminol to see if there had been any blood spilled and Mike Turney had a duplicate truck that Sarah didn't find out about until many years later the same truck he had when Alyssa went missing he at some point got rid of it and got another truck that was the same make the same model in the same color why would anyone do that so it would appear as if he was the same truck the whole time but if the cops ever went in to look at that truck to see if there's any sign of a listen there there wouldn't be because it wasn't the truck he had owned when Alyssa was alive so I found out about the duplicate truck only a few years ago I was at the missing an Arizona event which is an event that's held by the Phoenix Police Department and the one detective that had been reassigned to sexual crimes online detective Anderson was there and I actually spoke to him about a girl that I knew in foster care that had run away and was asking for updates and he actually started going off but Alyssa and about Alyssa's case and he must have talked to me for about three hours at that event and I was just trying to absorb as much as I could I wish I recorded it just for my own reference and to remember everything but at a certain point he brings up the fact that my father had a duplicate truck he says that it was the exact color make and model that it was sold in Nevada and that they searched one vehicle I'm not sure which one and all they got was a bunch of dog hair and then that was it that he basically that he had this truck that they were only able to search one and that one was sold and never searched but no I mean I've never seen in any documentation or any report he just told me I think out of the kindness of his heart I mean he was fired up he wants this there was no laps and trucks no point in time in which we didn't have a vehicle at that point um but I mean by the time that they did this investigation and searched the vehicle the dog we had was was long gone so I don't think that they would have been able to compare the hair to anything so why was there dog hair then in the truck it's the dog that you had was long gone well this would have been the truck that we had at the same time Alyssa was there so we had a dog during that time I don't I mean I think actually for like the last six months that Alyssa was there a year that we didn't have a dog but we had one previously but it's not unusual for my dad to load up animals in the vehicle and have them in there um but now that I'm thinking about it I'm just thinking about it in the moment when Alyssa went missing we she had a cat and she had a ferret and we did not have a dog so where that dog hair came from is really interesting to me also while we're on the subject I just want to state that he gave away Alyssa's ferret pretty much immediately after she left and then he got a new dog which is my dog that just passed away actually and that dogs supposedly scared off Alyssa's cat so I mean within months after Alyssa being gone her animals were by you know he moved everything out of her reign he it seemed like he was trying to erase her presence he got rid of most of the things in her room I mean I fought to keep a lot of things um but I mean her bed was gone her nightstand and TV stand was gone he didn't expect her to come back he didn't save her furniture in case he didn't set up another bedroom for her in case in which we had an extra bedroom that he could have done that when she went missing I actually slept in her room I slept in her room every single night in her bed with all her things and I think it was just my way of being closer to her and my way of expressing that I was sad but yeah I mean when we moved there was no preservation of her items I had to kind of like pick out whatever I wanted and keep it and then I don't know what happened to the rest when you move to the new house where they're pictures of her put up or do you guys not put pictures up around the house was there any sign that she existed at all ever in this new house no I don't think that he put the family pictures back up at one point he had put up like my honor roll award but no I mean normally we would have like a hallway of family pictures you know that usually listen I would put up ourselves to be honest and when we moved no there was like nothing left of her I got brand-new furniture and which was very strange I'd never had new furniture in my life as opposed to taking her old furniture that was like she had hand-painted mushrooms on there you know and it was everything that she had screamed ELISA and then it was gone so did my attorney go to trial for Alyssa's disappearance when he was released from prison no in fact that that didn't happen at all three days before he was released the two detectives were reassigned or at least that's what Sarah was told she was told that the missing persons unit or the cold-case missing persons unit had been dissolved and no longer existed and that the two officers had been reassigned to different cases or different departments one of the police officers had been assigned to a different department but one of them detective summer shoe he was still in the cold case division and he was still allegedly on elicit Ernie's case but all of a sudden he wasn't talking anymore he wasn't responding to her emails he wasn't communicating with her as much in fact nobody was communicating with her at all every time she wanted to talk about ELISA why aren't you arresting my father what's going on what's happening they would just push her off and try to buy time eventually they told her no body no crime we can't prosecute without a body we don't know where alice is we can't do anything so what had changed from when Mike Kearney was in prison for literally having an Arsenal in his home and the police were like yeah we're gonna prosecute we're gonna bring him to justice - three days before he got out when the detectives were transferred and all of a sudden there wasn't enough there wasn't enough to prosecute him so what happened was a few days before my father was released from prison they reassigned the two detectives and that's when they really went silent on me and at the time I'm thinking because I was told when your father's released from prison we will arrest him the day he's released so that he cannot combine sentences because if we arrest him while he's in prison he'll get a shorter sentences because he's able to combine them so I'm thinking okay you know great nothing to worry about so when they read when they get reassigned I'm thinking okay well that makes sense you know the case is over they have everything they need they're going to arrest and it's gonna go to court there's no reason for them to be on the case anymore and then eventually obviously he's not arrested and I asked for a meeting and they sit me down with my supposed new detective who literally wouldn't take off her sunglasses who would never speak to me over the phone this is the first time I'm meeting her and they bring him summer shoe because he's actually confident about the case and like I said she says nothing in summer she says you know we've decided that we can't prosecute any longer without a body but we won't look for that body you will have a billboard in every freeway in Phoenix with Alyssa's name on it which never happened and then he looked at me and I'm obviously crying my eyes out at this point because I don't understand you know they promised me this prosecution for so long and he says Sarah your best chance is to get media exposure and that's when I went crazy getting media exposure and I don't think that they expected me to get as much as I have you had the petition and once a hit a hundred thousand somebody said to you like it doesn't matter if there's five million signatures like it's not gonna make a difference did that happen yeah that was commander Cristina Gonzales when I had my most recent meeting with them in January I said listen you know you told me to get media exposure and I have it I have millions of media impressions I have a media deal you know I have a petition with a hundred thousand signatures what more is it going to take and she said it doesn't matter how many signatures you have we need a body and I said so what are you doing to look for this body and she said well Sarah if we knew where the body was we would go get it you said I need a body and I said I disagree there are other cases that have been tried in one with less evidence in this same County said we are not setting a precedent you guys are just refusing to do it well no I think the summer shoes always been on the case Sarah and like what about that email that you sent me saying that you're dissolving the cold-case unit and he's no longer on the case or the other email that's the highlight on my Instagram story with the word savage that says and furthermore detective Anderson and I are no longer agents for your case what about those and she says I can't speak to anything you were told in the past but there is a cold-case unit yeah I know they lied to me they a thousand percent lines me one detective was legitimately reassigned to Sex Crimes online but the other detective detective summer shoe continued to work on other cases that he had prior to that including all the girls that he introduced me to he was never taken off their cases and now according to them never taken off my case but every time I email my current sergeant who's supposed to be in charge of the case I copy detective summer shoe and I copy the commander of the unit and he always writes back and copies no one and then I write back and copy every one again like it's a fun game we play um detective summer shoe was on the podcast from a couple years back what seemed like he was trying to be helpful and he was you know and you can hear him like he can hear in his voice he knows that my attorney did this he knows and it bothers him that you know so he's trying to raise awareness but now it's like crickets from him do you think that they threatened him and they said don't do any more media don't go on these podcasts like you're causing problems for us that pretty much is what happened yeah I I do I think that's exactly it um because those two detectives I know care very much when I went to the missing in Arizona day detective Anderson who had been legitimately reassigned spoke to me for like three hours about the case he knows it better than I do he's more passionate about it than I am like he he wants this so much at this time my Kearney is living in Phoenix a free man he's not only a man who plan a domestic terrorist attack who wrote about how he was going to kill multiple people but a man who is suspected of molesting his stepdaughter for years and who if you ask me is directly involved with her disappearance so who here lives in Phoenix right now or the surrounding areas who here has children who live in Phoenix or the surrounding areas and how many of you feel comfortable knowing that the man I just talked about man I just described is walking free a man who has a penchant for guns and explosives and abusing little girls allegedly it's not been proven right so it's alleged don't come for me Mike tourney Sarah is trying to get justice for her sister and trying to put my attorney her own father on trial no one's asking for a witch-hunt no one's asking for him to be thrown into prison with no evidence no due process but we want a trial we deserve a trial he deserves a trial he needs to go in front of a judge and a jury and answer questions about Alissa what happened to her where is she when did you last see her and let's get a straight story out of you for once Mike tourney is a compulsive liar he lies about everything he told everyone for years that he was in Vietnam and he had you know killed a Vietcong and it was all this dramatic story once again he went on national television and said he was in Vietnam and only finally when he was put under oath and asked were you in Vietnam did he say no I was never in Vietnam no he lied about getting fired from the Union three weeks before his wife died Sarah has the paperwork he's a liar and over the years he's told multiple different stories about ELISA and where she could be he told somebody he saw her get on a bike with a biker and go off into the distance he has so many different accounts of what happened we need to get him in a court of law and ask once and for all what happened that day all the evidence of the abuse and the trauma that he put Alyssa through until she went missing needs to be put in front of people and they need to see it since he's been out as Sarah has only seen him once she met him at a Starbucks in Phoenix and they talked and she tried to get answers she's always trying to get answers out of him and he always laughs it off or gets defensive or tells a different variation of a story I'm gonna play you a clip of a conversation that Sarah had with Mike tourney at the Starbucks where she said pretty much you took my sister away and listened to his response to her like I said it wouldn't be pleasant either one of these right oh I just I could make it so much more unpleasant I am trying to be civil here we'll Viscuso don't have to take a big time and then I came like a victim I'm acting like a father one who know how hell my family fell this stupid [ __ ] that was pumped out dad what have you done what's in my best interest what's that got to do with this thing but listen what about doing your passion taking away arguably the most important person my life has to do with my best interest a bit yeah and my future in the whole course of my entire life and you wanna listen with that close we fought like normal siblings but would we be closer now yeah did Mike and James Bay yeah he didn't say no I didn't take her away from you I had nothing to do with it not I'm sorry you lost your sister I lost her too but that's night remark like you guys are so close who does that what kind of person would talk about his missing daughter that he's so worried about in that kind of way cuz you guys are so close is that the response of a father who's still reeling over the disappearance of his daughter is that the response of a man who's as much in the dark as anybody else about where she is or what happened to her no in my opinion it's not it's the snide remark of a man who's sick of hearing about it doesn't want to deal with it anymore it wasn't honestly really until I talked to him when he got out of prison and I said people are afraid of you at the Union they put a bulletproof glass like it's not funny and he laughs at it and then I realized like yeah no he's a thousand percent evil like that's what's hard is I'm still getting to the point where I can believe that he's as evil as everybody tells me he is you know now I tell him you don't love me you never loved me you don't love your kids you planned on killing a bunch of people you're a horrible person but it took me a decade to come to this point to be honest when when he was at the trial I didn't think that he would use those bombs I think I accepted the fact that he made these bombs and that he typed out this plan but I didn't think that he was gonna use him and I think that's probably just me being naive and wanting to believe that well Mike Turney ever tell the truth about what happened that day he told Sarah that if she wanted the answers that she should come and talk to him on his deathbed but a murder no money somehow resolve it in your mind or meet you on your deathbed that's use just just to say Sarah I'm just saying hang around the longview time if you think there's a hereafter as an answer you'll get your isn't it I mean this is just a short drop of the bucket Sarah life is you know some people get good cards other people don't get good thoughts for a long time it's been believed that if Michael journey did kill Alisa that he buried her somewhere in the desert he was very familiar with the desert they spent a lot of time out there it's where they would shoot guns and do target practice and he had some maps of the desert with coordinates on it but at this point today Sarah believes that he wouldn't have buried Alisa in desert center or any of the deserts if he had killed her she believes that a mall in Phoenix that was being built the summer that Alisa went missing is probably the burial place for her sister so this shopping center is about two to four miles away from my house it's a very quick Drive it's also an area that my dad would take me to list out too before it was this construction zone we'd go ride our go-karts out there it was a big patch of desert that we were familiar with it was very close and at that time I what I want to do is get the building schedule so I can confirm this but at this time it was being built so it's my understanding that in a construction zone what they do is use ground-penetrating radar before they dig to make sure that they're not disturbing anything any burial sites or pipes or anything like that but once they do that they do not do it again so this thing would be full of open holes I mean a massive shopping center there's a target there's a Kohl's there's a grocery store there's a million shops inside of it it's very large so there's a lot of concrete slabs being poured for foundations so my reasoning is during that time it was being built most likely filled with many holes that have already been used using this ground-penetrating radar and my father knows this he's an electrician he would understand what goes into setting up wiring and digging and things like that I would imagine and he's smart enough to figure this out but so again I think my reason was that there's so many holes there that have already been researched that he could easily just drop her in one harbor with cover her with some dirt knowing they're gonna pour concrete on her so that's hard when are they ever gonna dig that up again it's it's a mall that's I mean now it's been around for 20 years but it there's a target I mean nobody's ever gonna look at that again versus the desert you know Arizona is expanding rapidly Phoenix is expanding rapidly there's less desert than ever I think it's more likely that she would be found in a random piece of desert then underneath this shopping mall but again I mean that's just my guess that what's hard is he's so familiar with so many different parts of the desert and he had access to a lot of property up north also through his brother through my uncle and they're all not great people and anything's possible but given the time frame you know I think that he would have wanted to have a quick turnaround the thought of him going to desert Center California which is you know three to four hours away him crossing a state line with a body a state line that has an agricultural check that sometimes checks every single vehicle sometimes doesn't it just seems really really risky and he wouldn't really had enough time I mean he would have had enough time between when allegedly he picked her up and when he picked you up but it would have been like I was very tight bad yeah I mean he would have had less than an hour for anything unpredictable a flat tire anything at this point today in 2019 the disappearance of Alisa tourney is still a mystery and is still unsolved and at this point the police they aren't doing anything to help Sara find her sister or bring her father to justice we could ask ourselves all day why why are the police not doing anything why is the DA not prosecuting there seems to be enough evidence to at least bring this man to trial and that's all that's Sarah once we could ask ourselves that question all day long the fact is it doesn't matter what matters is that we make as much noise as possible the true crime community is an amazing community other people might look from the outside into the Turkana community and say oh look at those crazy people those freaks they like to talk about murder and like talk about death and crime they're weird but we know we know that that's not who makes up the true crime community the true crime community is made up of people who are compassionate who are caring hate to see injustice in the world and that's why we flock here to listen to the stories of the victims and their lives in what happened to them and it's even more amazing when we have the opportunity in our hands to help one of these victims and today guys we do we have a lot of things that we can do there is a link to a petition in the description box of this video and it is a petition to bring Michael Turney to justice you can also call or write the Phoenix District Attorney's Office and ask why they have not prosecuted this man yet who is clearly guilty in my opinion allegedly don't come for me the more exposure for this case the better I think that honestly Netflix should make a movie about this case because it seems like that's the only time people become interested normal people like outside the true crime community who aren't really a prize as to what's happening in true crime that's the only time that those people really become interested in a crime story is when it's made into a movie on Netflix so if we can add Netflix to make illicit Ernie's story into a movie that would be great if you guys can do that and at Crime con on Twitter and ask them to give Sara attorney her own panel next year in Orlando she may not have any police officers who are willing to go up on that stage with her and support her but she has this community all the people who have covered her case on YouTube and on podcasts all the people who are just as outraged and upset about what happened to her sister as she is they would get up on that stage and they would stand up there with her and tell Alyssa story so at Netflix at crime cam and I also want to tell you that Sara attorney has started her own podcast and it's called voices for justice I'm also placing the link for that podcast in the description box according to Sara the first season is going to be about her telling alyssa story in her own words in excruciating detail from start to finish she's interviewing people that have been heard from and also a lot of other people that haven't even spoken to the police and then season two of voices for justice will feature other cases of people fighting for justice so it's time guys we always want to feel like we can do more in Alyssa's case we can do more we can be so loud so obnoxious and so insistent then no one can ignore us anymore as far as I'm concerned that the next step is protesting outside of like the White House and that's why I asked in my community page does anybody know an FBI agent or somebody in the FBI because the FBI needs to override the Phoenix Police Department at this point and get into this case and look into it and take it out of the hands of the Phoenix PD because if they're not gonna do anything they don't want to pursue it the FBI really needs to at least look at this case file and if they do I think that they will want it solved so check out Sara's podcast sign the petition guys it literally takes two seconds please sign it we're trying to get as many eyes on this and as many voices in this as possible go on Twitter at Netflix at Crime con and more important than anything be supportive and understanding in the comments section you have to realize that ELISA tourney is a real person who went missing and who knows what happened to her you have to also realize the sara tourney is a real person a lovely person a person that is brave and strong even when she's saying that her sister ELISA was brave and strong which I believe Sarah attorney is brave and strong and unwavering and she is not going to stop being a thorn in the Phoenix PD s side until they do something about this Sarah attorney lost her mother when she was four she lost her sister when she was 13 and now she's pretty much lost her entire family she doesn't talk to her father her mother's a side of the family has been estranged for so long and her brothers have pretty much sighted with her father at this point even though she claims that they know he did it they are still supporting him she doesn't have anybody anymore but you know what that's not true she has a lot of people the true crime community is a powerhouse and a force to be reckoned with but we are also the most supportive and uplifting people that exist in the world and we will all be at Sarah's brothers and sisters we will all be her friends we will all be her support system we will all be a voice with her not against her if I see anything negative about Sarah attorney or Ellis attorney these comments they will get removed I don't believe in censorship but I believe in being here for the right reasons and focusing our energy in positive ways we are all sera attorneys family now and that makes Alyssa our sister and if this was your sister if this was your daughter how much would you do what would you do how far would you go please go that far for Alyssa there is so much about this case that is just crazy there is so much about it I cannot possibly cover but if you guys would be interested I've already asked Sara Turney and she'd be willing to go live with me sometime next week well you guys can come on and you can ask her questions any questions you want about the case and what's going on about her sister about little details that maybe you had questions about when I was describing them once again there's so much I'm sure I missed something I'm sure I left something out but I gave you enough to understand that there's an injustice happening here and it needs to be fixed and what I want people to know is that if you're experiencing something like Alyssa was experiencing you don't have to and that there's help in that there are ways to safely get out of these situations and if you told 20 people like Alyssa told 20 people tell more go to another Authority go to CPS yourself go to the police yourself get out of the situation there is help and I want people to know that if you are abusing a child that there are people like me that will come for you 20 30 40 years later and that you'll be exposed so I think it's important to know that this type of behavior and relying on family secrets and thinking that that's okay and that it's not going to cause you to get in trouble is wrong you're wrong if you're abusing somebody it will come out no matter how long it takes and the second part of that is that Alyssa still need your help and that I still need your help and people always ask what they can do and it's been different things throughout the years right it's been go talk to the police call the DA write a letter do a petition and none of those things are working so right now it's about blowing it up bigger than it's ever been it's about getting this on Netflix or Hulu or pick your media of choice um because that's the only way that something's going to happen in this case is if Kim Kardashian cares or Netflix cares because now we know that the authorities don't care and that they're not taking action and it for whatever reason they don't want this story to come to light and so I need all of your guys's help to make my voice larger because I don't know what else to do I've tried to go through all the proper channels and it's not working so right now my only chance is to hope that the whole world hears about it is mad about it and it evokes change elicit Ernie was born in April of 84 I was born in February of 84 so she'd be my age and maybe she would have kids maybe she would be on YouTube maybe should have a YouTube channel you know she was very artistic she was very talented she drew the mushrooms on her dresser with nail polish maybe she'd have a do-it-yourself YouTube channel right now who knows what she'd be doing but I promise you what she'd be doing today and her life today would be a hundred million times better than where she's at and where I believe Michael Turney put her she begged for help she asked for help from so many people so many times and nobody was there so be there for people listen to children if a child says something that seems odd to pursue it don't just write it off don't just think they're a kid they're stupid they're not as smart they're not my equal because that's what people like Michael Turney want you to think about these kids that they're hurting every day they want you to think that they're not smart enough and not good enough they're not developed enough and their brain understand the repercussions of what's happening kids understand more than you think kids understand when something's not right no matter how many times you try to convince them it's right no matter how many times that a predator and a pedophile will try to convince a child that this is normal that child knows it's not normal and it's not right so listen to kids when they talk because they have something to say and it's important thank you guys so much for being here I hope you enjoyed this I hope you understand how important it is and how much we really need to get a list of story out there and support Sarah attorney in any way we possibly can stay kind and stay beautiful and I'll see you next time bye [Music] through the tears that is faded it's heavy hearts consumed oh you are [Music] memories this spinning circle and every breath reveals one more sky [Music] the whisper [Music]

Channel: Stephanie Harlowe

Views: 359,417

Keywords: alissa turney, sarah turney, michael turney, true crime, stephanie harlowe, missing people, cold cases

Id: nJ8Gvh9tcxY

Length: 64min 8sec (3848 seconds)

Published: Thu Jul 11 2019