WHAT AN INTERVIEW WITH Steve Jobs FEELS LIKE (INTIMIDATING PERSONALITY)

he was a scary guy trust me and we went out there and he only wanted to meet each one myself because each was a technologist who's much more important in his world and me and each row was a fanboy each what you know there's Hector fanboy he's each was it was an SJ fanboy like everything he knew everything about I wasn't really like I was impressed and it was amazing company but I was there and we go into the boardroom after about five hours of being grilled and prepared by other executives because they'd already done a ton of research on us they wanted to buy our company but he had to pass the Steve test and there was a lot of footing means of Steve there was a lot well if Steve said no you were done yeah he never took a meeting by himself so there was going to be a bunch of people in the room on the executive team and he a lot of quirks and things that he was going to do and they prepared me ahead of time which was kind of cool of them because they didn't for other people yeah for example well that shows that they wanted a money and they needed to to work so they try to prep you they wanted it to work right but Steve was tough so this is a good one if you won't usually try the tech there as well so Steve would do this as well he'd say so Hector so you're really you're really close with your dad huh 60 seconds mm-hmm nothing got to hold the gays don't say anything people get so uncomfortable granted it's Steve Jobs but yeah so in life that's what happens people just get uncomfortable so it was his litmus test to determine if you're a bozo or not okay the hero or a bozo bozos were gonna fill up that uncomfortable silence with some [ __ ] he was gonna know you weren't the guy that you'd never be able to negotiate for him you'd never be able to pull through in the clutch for him so he gave me about 60 seconds which felt like six hours I was like oh my god I'm just holding the gate finally I was like okay yeah and he was okay and then he'd ask you a bunch of questions write about your family your dad and he would store it away maybe he'd use it right away maybe he used it in a year but he'd come back you know in a meeting and maybe you had was a poor meeting in his mind and he'd bring you over he but Hector do you think you said your dad worked like three jobs and moved it from Juarez Mexico and just to give you this life you think he'd be appreciate with the [ __ ] performance you made here today Jesus I just choked up a little bit he knows what made you take whatever it was he'd stored away yeah keep it hidden need to whip it out and you you wanted to please him you everybody wanted to please Steven and if you told him I can do this man I can do it in six months he's but he's like great you've got four weeks and you'd say I couldn't there's no software I can't make self I can't even do this in 40 you have four weeks and you would and they did they always did and everybody at Apple was amazing and everybody thought their [ __ ] didn't stink and they were arrogant and it was a wonderful exciting place to be in especially then you know the iPad just came out and everything else and you felt you could do anything for this guy yeah so and we skipped a lot oh yeah so I got to tell about that meeting yes it was the best part so we go the meeting and fanboy each word right away starts babbling and he's looking at him and he's going like this and he says could you explain that again I'm sorry and so he short explains again he's like one more time really not getting it and each horse says okay well with our ads and the other other Android ads in another platform you can kind of create a lowest common denominator to run across all the platforms whether it's an Apple phone or a Google phone the Google phones coming out and I was like that's probably not a good thing to say right and I look at Steve and Steve looks at me and if that's if that's each bar he just puts his hand up in his face it looks at me and says I'm not talking to him again I've done everything in my life to be anything but below was common denominator how dare you come into my boardroom and say that yeah I was like okay let's keep talking yeah without here and and then it took about three or four hours to get back into it okay and and then and it was one of my better performances I definitely had some Duds in my life but I kind of felt like I had nothing to lose at that point so it was absolutely actually kind of freeing yeah and I was good and I was answering his questions and then I kind of thought I had him cuz he asked me if I had kids and then asked him if he had kids which I should have know I didn't know if he had kids and he got a little choked up yes he was dying and cuz I said are your kids in college yes like I'm I'm not sure if I'm gonna see my son graduate was so yeah no he said he weighed like a hundred pounds you know just followed more energy than I've ever had in my whole life yeah and and and then he looks at me and he says how much am i buying your company for there's a little known start I guess I could say it now it's long ago I said we have a deal 325 million and he looks over at Peter Oppenheimer who is the CFO of a pleasing what I'm spanning 300 325 million for Andy's Peter Schiff company he said okay gonna test me as a negotiator and he said Peters like well that's what we've negotiated yeah and and he said well I'm not paying that Andy I said well that's the deal here he's like well I'm not paying that your companies not worth that I said well I think I think we are and he's like now what can we do I said I don't really understand you asking me negotiate against myself he's like I'll pay it to 75 I said no like we have a deal man he's like we don't open til I say we have a deal you understand mm-hmm I said fair but I think you're retraining and he's like you know betrayed is a bad word yeah like we've caught we did other words you know in our growing up right yeah and he's like eh you calling me a reit raider I said with all due respect I think so because I came here thinking wait a deal for you know I told my boy we ever deal for 325 I'm gonna walk out of here at 275 he's like how about this he leans in he's like smear you guys how about you tell your board back in Boston that oops and these little ads don't work anymore on Apple phones and then see how good your business is and how much is where it is talk about a oh my god I was like 275 sounds pretty good rather and he likes to be goes can you land this plane and I was like hi captain he's like that makes no sense that's a boat metaphor that was it shook his hand actually did not shake his hand just looked at him he looked at me he's like we're done here I'll see you around campus and he said oh yeah by the way you need to move everybody to Cupertino I said I have a hundred and fifty people work for me he's like yeah move more I was like we're all from Boston he's like no no don't move them all leave the bozos back in Boston where they belong move the good people out here like oh so that was the deal that was part of it that's how I ended up and at Apple I reported to Steve for until he died for a couple years and I learned at I'm unbelievably stressful unbeliev had any hair I had a little hair at the time a little bit gone I worked my ass off 24 hours a day I bought a house because I was commuting from Boston right in his neighborhood saw I didn't even know he lived there honestly and it was he hated the fact that I lived near him and because I was seeing what was happening with his sort of health and it was all Steve all day 24 hours a day Tuesday meeting at 1:30 that was it that was it like it was the scariest time of my life those Tuesday meetings I'd meet with him in front of the whole executive team almost the whole executive team because he was terrified that ads we're gonna [ __ ] up his customer loyalty experience yeah and so he had everybody in there and every time I won something I try and not bring it in oh and he told me and this is a good tip for you young entrepreneurs out there that I was a very complicated man which is not a compliment right his whole world is about simplicity in fact right outside of it the creative group and Apple they have this big mural and it says simplicity simplified crossed out simplify simple crossed out simplify and that's what it was for him you had to boil everything down into its essence and then he didn't even want me to hand stuff for him to read or look at because then I would kind of frame his thoughts it was just boil everything down into its essence I'm gonna trust everything you say the day I don't trust what you say you're gone you don't belong in this boardroom anymore and save me the time so we can make an informed decision and this was a this is the most amazing exact see look what they've done right their company in the world they've all been there forever there's no focus groups like you always you say a few I don't want to you know please but like you say similar things right like you know sometimes people don't know what they need until you give it to them right and that was his thing as well I'm not gonna have a focus group to tell me what this thing should look like what color I should have you know I'm gonna show them you know what they don't know and and it was all like you like surprise and delight he was a pleaser on some level unbelievable attention to detail like ridiculous every little thing you'd make you go back a hundred times for it even if he was fine with it he's don't think he'd go back and do it because he wanted you to train you in that way and for me I was too complicated I he'd say exactly you use ten words when you can use one you can use a picture instead of you know I don't want to see a deck with a hundred words on it I want you to think like an apple guy and that was really hard for me and now I think that's why I'm such a good multitasker and why I get so frustrated probably with our employees sometimes because they need to simplify their world because if they're giving you everything and then you're simplifying it it's exhausting yeah and my meetings with him were scary and legendary and they I got some great stories there of him abusing me at some level and other levels you know building me up and making me a man and and it was incredible that's gotta be like I mean imagine how many people get to work for a genius like that right literally changed the world right I mean in my opinion I agree yeah so that's that I never took it for granted yeah I did one day and the only time I ever did I sat in the room and he was talking and he was talking to Tim Cook who's now the CEO is another genius and Scott Forstall another genius who created the iOS platform and Eddy Cue who runs iTunes and he's amazing all these guys I looked around I was like how the [ __ ] did I get here I had it's not a body thing I was like what is happening they were talking about something with Obama I remember I was like what is happening and then Steve looked at me and he said what do you think Andy and he's like you weren't paying attention were you and i was like no and he was actually nice to me he's like look everybody here except for you I hired I bought you you're not an apple guy maybe someday you'll be an apple guy but you got to earn your way into the boardroom you haven't earned way in here so I didn't really want your opinion I don't really care mm-hmm but I noticed you weren't paying attention and if I ever notice that again you'll never be in here and you go back to Boston that's amazing I was like okay sorry that is amazing I wish somebody did that to me [ __ ] myself was yeah I imagine that like it and that happens I would be the worst person to be there because I date him a lot you know I'm always like oh my brains like this that's what makes you special no maybe yeah but not to Steve Jobs you know he's pretty similar he would value the creative you know I we you and I say this in our presentation for our our fundraising and just with our employees is that like Steve's big thing was he believed that Apple sat at the intersection of liberal arts and technology right he'd have a street sign on his on his presentation to the employees every year and it was Mystery Train with liberal our Apple liberal arts and technology and that's the corner there meaning he could go out and hire because he's Apple the best software coder in the world but he'd rather hire a great software coder who also did stand-up comedy wrote his own music baked cakes did calligraphy had and could inject everything he's doing with some kind of culture and design and art and that's kind of the way we look at energy right like we could just be an eSports team and that's great and you know we've been trying but we also look at ourselves as you know trying to be part of gaming culture and do a lot more than just you know what come on says yeah yeah [Music]

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Length: 11min 59sec (719 seconds)

Published: Thu Jan 23 2020

Reddit Comments

[u/ShiningTortoise]

I have a relative at Apple and the way they talk about him sounds like he made everyone a nervous wreck.

[u/depixelated]

That work environment sounds absolutely horrendous

[u/AGIANTSMURF]

Since I couldn’t find the info anywhere here;

This is Andy Miller, former CEO of Quattro Wireless, a mobile advertising platform (the described company sold to apple for 275m).

edit: thank you /u/werty1432k for the gold!

[u/magichronx]

I think I'd rather just be a "bozo"

[u/Maker1357]

Steve Jobs sounds like a good manipulator and a truly awful person.

[u/Jasonbluefire]

That honestly sounds awful. Not just the interview but everything about that job and working for SJ.

[u/Gamer_ely]

Whats interesting to me is them talking about this work experience, which sounds like an absolute nightmare to me, and them saying it with this level of reverence. "I wish somebody had said that to me" Like damn. If my boss ever said that to me I'd probably quit on the spot. But that also means I probably won't ever reach their level.

[u/[deleted]]

It's amazing how much these highly-motivated business people sacrifice. So much stress and so much time away from their families, I wonder if its all worth it? When they are on their deathbed do they look back and wish they had done things differently?

[u/againtodisappointu2]

So Steve was a legitimate sociopath. So the rumors are true.