- This is a $250,000 3D printer designed for 3D printing car parts. - And this is a $300 3D printer, one of the cheapest ones you can buy. - With a price difference that extreme, what does all that money really get you? - And how much do you really need to spend if you wanna 3D print your own car parts? - Well today we're gonna find out. I'm Jeremiah.
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printers of varying size, price point, capability,
all that kind of stuff. I'm a total noob when it
comes to this sort of thing. - We're both noobs, but we're
gonna change that today. We're gonna be functional
3D printer owners. - I'm sure I'll retain
all this knowledge, yeah. All right, so this is near the lower end of the 3D printer spectrum. This is a Ender 3, comes in at $300, it's made by a company called Creality. Creative reality, Jerry, Creality. Since we're noobs we've decided to bring in a professional. Please welcome Bob from
I Like To Make Stuff. - [Jerry] Sup, man? - Have you had any
experience with this machine? - So this one specifically, no. They all basically do the same thing. There's a few different types of printers, a couple of them you would
never have in your home. But the ones that you might
have in your home are FDM, which are basically like hot glue guns, they squirt out hot plastic, And then you have SLA or SLS printers which use resin and light, they cure the resin with the laser. We don't have any of those here today, but this is called an FDM printer, basically a hot glue gun. Imagine taking a 3D object and you cut it into two
dimensional slices, cheese slices, and then this is drawing those
slices one on top of another and you're building up that 3D object. - Cool, so what is the material
that it's being made out of? - A lot of PT, PLA, ABS, these are plastics that you
would see in cars already. But then you've also got
other stuff like carbon fiber. - And then for something
like this that's only $300, is there limitations? - The big limitation
on something like this is the material that you can use. And then you have the build volume, how much of a thing it can actually make. You have printers that are
bigger, some that are smaller. - With this machine right
here, realistically, what kind of car parts are we looking at? - Take things outta the equation that require really high heat. So in the engine bay you probably just wanna stay outta there. Nothing in there. You wanna look at interior parts, it'd be super easy to make. Any exterior parts are possible. - Well, I think I can think
of a few things inside Low Car that we can print with this thing. So let's look inside. (upbeat music) - Welcome my office.
- Like your office. - So we have a lot of stuff in
here that we could 3D print. What do you wanna 3D print? - Yeah, so when we installed
this hand break during HiLow I had to modify it so
it could stick through and have clearance. These are formally climate control knobs, took all that out. If we plug these holes
it could be pretty cool. Make it look cleaner and maybe relocate this fan switch to live in one of these pods right here. - I also noticed that there's not really enough Donut logos in here. (dramatic orchestral music) Could put a Donut logo on one of these. - Yeah, that'd be cool. So maybe fan on one, Donut on the other. - Okay, so to 3D model something, you have to take as many measurements in
the real world as possible. So let's just leave it in,
measure with some calipers. 56.5 millimeters. So we have the one that we need and we can head to the software. - Bam, right there. Our fan control switch will
now live in the center console as opposed to this little hole down here which I'll fill with a pop
tab or something like that. - There's a bunch of
different ways to model this. We use Fusion 360 by Autodesk. We have an online course where we teach people how to use it. - Look at that
- Look at that. - And it's very, very
easy, so we'll get started. (jazzy synth music) - Think everybody left me to eat lunch, but it's cool. I'll just, I'll just keep working, guys! - [Nolan] I'm right over here, Bob. I can also type on the computer. - I'm trying, it's moving too fast. - All right, so an important step to do is run a test print, make
sure it's running smoothly, everything's operating normally,
all the plugs are correct. - Another thing about these printers is that they take a long time to heat up. So this one's moving up at
about a degree a second. - Are you guys done yet? - Yeah.
- Yeah. - When you go up in price, do you also go up in speed of printing? - If it has a different
mechanism than the lead screws it can usually go faster. So this first couple layers
I think look pretty good, which tells us that it's set up correctly, it's probably ready to print. - Awesome, yeah. Probably working is
good enough for Low Car. Alright, we got the file, we got it loaded into our printer. We're gonna set it to print, go to lunch, and hopefully when we come back it'll be at least halfway done. - Not likely but (indistinct). (bouncy trap beat) - So the printer just failed. Went back and fixed a couple things, we're just gonna try it again. Sometimes it happens. (bouncy trap beat) We turned on the AC and that
little bit of voltage spike made this printer restart. Now we got start it again. - Sometimes this just doesn't
work like you want it to. Unfortunately, there's
a bunch of different, so we should be able to get
you up and running in no time. (man screams) - All right, our patience has paid off. Our parts are done printing. Let's peel 'em off and see how they fit
into our center console. - (indistinct) pop off.
- Whoa! - [Bob] Still got some
support material in there we need to get rid of.
- Yes, it does. - Square it up.
- Square it up. - [Nolan] Bam. - (indistinct) popped on there. - So cool (chuckling). That's sick. Now I'm gonna go
ahead and paint the letters. In the meantime, let's look
at the expensive piece. (bouncy trap beat) Jerry, what is this? - This is a $7,000 Ultimaker S5. It's got two spools here
so we can do double colors. Are there tri filament machines? - There are. There are.
- Quad filament? - Quintuple?
- Probably. - So Bob, what's the
difference between a $300 and a $7,000 one like this? - This one, I mean, having the dual extruder
is a big part of that 'cause now you can have
two different colors but you can also have
two different materials. You can have flexible and
rigid or strong and weak, use a bunch of different combinations. Also, it has a camera in it.
I dunno if you noticed that. So you can print to this from the software and actually watch the print over wifi. - Oh, that's cool. - Plus the build volume,
this thing's huge. - Yeah, this is pretty- - You could make a giant thing in this. - When you step up to something like this, what's the level of engagement? - It's even easier to get into. So I mean that's another part of the cost, is they build their own software, they have a better user
interface, the setup, and all of the calibrations all automatic. - That's for people who don't wanna learn. As much, as much. Also we have to thank MatterHackers for letting us borrow this $7,000 printer. We didn't go buy one
ourselves, so thank you. Go check them out,
there'll be a link below if you want to buy your
own 3D printer from them. - We spent our $7,000 on
two more Chrysler Sebrings and a mini bike. All right, well now that we know a little bit more about this machine, let's go and design a piece for it to make for our center console. Okay, so we've got the fan switch going and we already made that model. Can we just, for the middle piece, just slap a Donut logo
on there and be good? - Yeah, with this software you can actually import
graphics and photos and whatever and use them as drawings. So we'll just erase what we've
done on the surface here, drop the logo on, and we can
send it to the other printer. - Perfect. (funky synth music) - We've got our two color print with the Donut logo
ready for this machine. And so it's got two
different filaments in here, different colors, and different materials. So we're gonna go for it. See it right there. That's pretty awesome. (funky synth music) - [Man] Congratulations! (chill hip hop beat) - $7,000 print. - [Nolan] $300 print. - Yeah, but you can't tell, the finishing marks are
very similar, I think. This has a uniform direction
at least in one way. - You can definitely see the crosshatching on the cheaper one. But sick. We're able to make a little piece, two little pieces for our car and I'm really happy with this. Bob, Jerry and I just
kinda around all day. What were the major differences between the $300 printer
and the $7,000 printer? - The more expensive one
took longer to get started, but obviously the results are better. This one I had to mess
with a little bit more, I had to restart it three
times to get that one print. But it did work out in the end. Honestly, something like this would work in just about every garage. - It really is true to the DIY spirit, this kind of DIY market
year 'cause it's like, hey, you're gonna be able to do stuff with this but you're gonna have to mess
with it for a little while. - With that one you could
make stuff for your car and with this one you could make stuff for
your car and buy a car. So I mean, you know, where you wanna put your money. - All right, enough comparison talk. Let's put these in our center console and see how the end result looks. (funky pop music) (leaf blower blowing) - Cool, man. Look at this, dude. Fan switch is installed. Fan still works. Bitching, this thing looks great. There actually isn't any
Donut branding inside the car, so to have just one logo right there I think fits pretty well. Now that we have this giant fan sign. anybody who drives this car probably isn't gonna
forget to turn it on now. So that gives me some peace of mind. All right, so now that
these holes are filled in, all I need now is a little
pop tab for the previous hole and a bag for the shifter. Unfortunately, we can't print velvet. But maybe a super duper
expensive 3D printer can. Let's go check that out. (funky bass music) - [Jerry] Well, as much as
we wanted to find that out, Nolan and I got diarrhea. - So I, Zach Jobe, took a trip out to Moonshot
3D to talk to the owner Adnan about his more expensive 3D printers. To start, we took a look at
the Stratasys Fortus 450mc. This is an FDM printer that
retails for around $185,000. Does this get up to temperature quicker? - Yeah, one of the big benefits
of the Stratasys machine is the way that they've been
closed it is so far and above what other companies
are doing at the moment. And you can get there
within 10, 15 minutes, which is really fast. - Does this thing print a part quicker than just a desktop FDM unit? - Oh my god, it's way faster. - Really?
- Yeah. Yeah. - You could make a cheaper one move faster but you lose resolution, right? And so this moves quick and you maintain really good resolution? - Yeah, yeah.
- That's pretty cool. - I guess that's what you
spend all that money for. Okay, I hear we printed
some stuff ourselves and sent them over, oh god. What do you think? - Yeah, so you do see the outline, and in a lot of cases when
I show parts like this to someone who's running
a desktop printer, they'll tell me "I can get
better resolution on a desktop." And for sure you can. A lot of that gaping is just
due to some print settings, But we can modify The big difference is you
wanted to make 1,000 of these, you could do that pretty easily on here. This, that, and that took about an hour. - Alright, so a lot of
times with the smaller, cheaper 3D printers, you kind of, you got a pretty small build size. The biggest thing you can
print is pretty small. What can this thing do? - So this gets pretty big. It's not the biggest
Stratasys that's out there, but it's kind of the next step up. So we can do 16x14x16. - All right, so this one is pretty big, but I hear you got an even bigger one. - Oh yeah.
- Can we take a look at that? - Let's do it. - All right, so this is the big printer. How big of a print can this thing do? - It's pretty big. So you're actually looking at it. It's about 15x13x18 inches. - Dang. But how much did it cost? - Yeah, it's a bit. You're looking at about $250,000. - Well, that is a chunk of change. So this is curing layer by
layer with laser, right? - With lasers. Yeah, yeah. So it's just heating the
powder close to melting, yeah. And then you've got a laser up here, you've actually got this laser window. So we clean that every build. The laser will shine through there. You've got a couple
mirrors over here, X and Y, and that just dictates each cross section Your print bed's right in the middle. So these are actually loaded
all the way up with powder. So they're bottomed down over here, and every layer they'll
come up by a layer height. And at the same time this
will go down a layer height. So once it's all done printing,
if we do an 18 inch build, 18 inches of powder is down here. That's probably, I don't know, 150, 200 parts buried in here. So this actually just got
pulled out of the printer maybe an hour, hour and a half ago. Here's one of the parts. I mean it still has powder on it, but all of this powder will come off and underneath it is the part, and we'll just bead blast it and you've got a part
ready to go at the end. - Very freaking cool. (funky pop music) - Yeah.
- This is the future. - This is actually a new material. Yeah, so this is called Victrix AM 200, it's a peak based material. Every material out there kind of, you want high temp, there's that material. You want chemical resistance,
that's that material. Peak is the one material that
actually hits all of them. - So you could feasibly
print something like this, print a bunch of 'em, and sell
'em as an end product, right? This material is durable enough and good enough to be used
in an automotive application? - Yeah.
- That's awesome. - So you don't have to go and cut this on a CNC, fabricate it. You can print it and print
it with a bunch of parts and throw it right into a vehicle. - Especially for car guys and stuff. As you have an older car or something, you can't get a part anymore, well, you can just print it. Just like this, this is
a dash piece printed. And you can see it, it's textured just like
an original dash piece. And I know you guys maybe have
seen a cracked dash or two like I have. You could just print a new one. All right, tell me about this thing. We've got a pretty sweet
looking pedal box set up here that looks to be pretty much all printed except for this bit here. - It's just nylon 12 but 10% build with chopped carbon fiber. And that's what kind of
gives it that matte look. The finish to it. - [Zach] Feels very durable. I mean, is this something you could actually like run in a car? - Yeah. Yeah.
- That's incredible. - If you considered 3D
printing 10 years ago this would seem crazy, and even think 20 years ago, this is mind blowing, it's really cool. (chill pop rock music) - All right, so what do we got here? - So this is an SLA part. We took your same file, printed
it on this machine as well. So this is printing in resin. You need supports with this one and it's printed in one of the fastest SLA
resins out there right now. This was done in about an hour and a half. - Well, let's see if we
can break these off the bed and clean 'em up a little bit (dark synthwave music) - Each one has kind of a
different processing workflow. SLA is one of the ones, it's
a little bit more intensive. - Yeah, for after the print?
- After the print. (dark synthwave music) - Look at us. Well Adnan, thanks for showing us around, showing us some awesome printing stuff. Moonshot 3D, you got a
awesome business here. So if you got any 3D printing needs, hit up Adnan at Moonshot and yeah, hope you guys enjoyed this episode, learned a thing or two about 3D printing. If you did, go ahead and
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