WC3 - Moon vs. Infi - Group A - DH 2020 Regional Championship - Asia

asa and i got a question for you my friend what are the humans playing right now that's where they're playing with infie picking his main race here for this matchup the test talked about it the last time these two mets in wgl they played twice in a group stage and in the grand finals and infie absolutely destroyed moon but we saw him in the interview say that he had learned from those mistakes so let's see what he comes up with here it's looking so far like a neutral hero build order and probably a beastmaster on this map which he was using very successfully up until recently when infie started beating it convincingly i would think so too my friend and if this game needs any more hype then let me tell you these two guys are the most decorated players in warcraft 3 history in the earnings ranking in esports earnings moon number one infi since january number two in that list and if there's ever going to be a warcraft 3 goat discussion it must be up between these two absolutely i mean between them they have well over a million dollars in earnings combined so that's a lot of money a lot of titles and many years of dedication they're both at the top of the game but again last time i feel like we cannot say it enough last time they played it was in fee like running the show at least the last on the latest big encounter which happened twice during wgl so moon what adjustments does he make here i think during those games in wgl i remember last refuge specifically like in fee he went on to do analysis on those games on his stream and you know people always talk about how much he brags and stuff and he was kind of like praising himself saying i just completely figured out how to play against night elf all the timings perfectly against beastmaster like you set up the expansion quickly you grab some mercenaries and then you're perfectly ready with the arcane tower and the troll priest to a dispel that's very scary bear and then you'll do fine yeah it's an interesting dynamic between them it's oftentimes one-sided but the sides are switching like i remember wcg quarter-final there was definitely a tournament that infie wants to witness this most likely the highest prestige tournament in in china still he wanted to defend his title from 2019 and moon destroyed him with 3-0 and that's always like tickles infy a little it feels like uh that's when he really starts to practice and that's when he was really trying to figure him out and then it was a 2-0 in the group stage wgl and it was a 3-0 in the grand finals of wgl so it's definitely the ball at the moon's ballpark and so far so good i would say circlet and silly mask with the beastmaster the maps interestingly the same as in the wgl grand finals so no adjustments there yeah i think it's not surprising like uh infis vetoes are very obvious you know it's twisted meadows and amazonia moon vetoing to understand also makes sense now that i guess maybe it comes down to personal preference that won't always necessarily be the veto for uh for night elf but maybe just didn't feel as confident you know sometimes it just the last few games that you played on ladder on that certain map maybe will kind of break your confidence on it because you don't do as well so we got kirschborn chime picked up here now by fee not gonna help a ton necessarily in the long run i mean it depends what units he goes for if he goes for a lot of rifles obviously not helpful but if he does end up getting knights it can be absolutely amazing or early games with the footman here yeah i definitely agree on that tarana stan band because infield plays mountain king into tier three griffins there and to me it often time looks unbeatable when he's up against for example lawley but yeah the beastmaster in the hands of moon he innovated that neutral hero in like 2006 and he brought it back as well not with the cool beast not with the hawk but with the bash bear and we see that already but only level one level two quillbeast that may be an adjustment that he made yeah maybe he felt like are under attack you can get multiple coil based outs at the time like more so than you can those bears usually so might make sense like to have the extra damage instead of this one you need tanking at the front and then potentially dying very quickly i kind of like that moon is not overextending like not just rushing in like now he saw that there was no way to break the expo like once there is defense it's like really hot so instead he started working on this merchant in the center but obviously infie realized very quickly what was happening and he's going to move into position to try and start fighting there remember by the way like every time there is a mercenary heavy game happening we always remind the viewers that they die they give a lot of experience that might be the whole point of this quill beast level two here to just kill the mercenaries get a lot of xp get that beastmaster level five maybe level six and then there's a stampede you know right now yeah then beat entry for sure sounds like an easy task if you put it that way but yeah so father quillbeast did a good job not against towers not against workers but against the mercenaries for sure and to me it's very interesting how differently moon and lawley are playing uh this beastmaster oh nice push into the base this is something we see from humans nowadays float the night elf base with footman and try to kill as many buildings as possible sometimes even moon wells but this is shop and hunt is all gone and this delays moons tier 2 by so much yeah this is the problem if you go quilby's here is that it's piercing damage so against foot man it's not going to be that great bear would have been much better so now if he identified there was cool beast level two he's like okay i'll just go there pressure a lot and this fully negates the piercing damage for the most part and oh did you just swim on a bear yeah it did so even though if he wants to get level four moon wouldn't be able to summon another one for a while because it's a pretty long cooldown yeah there's a little bit of moonwell juice left the bear ah couldn't get the paw out but what i wanted to say uh prior we saw lawline playing this hero on the very same map as the hand just hall is cancelled again i'm not supposed to make this point apparently what a timing by if he gets the mercenaries against the piercing damage then when will we see these laws will we ever see these laws i mean you can't really go for much else yeah i don't think dropping uh second and third and shatter four are here and being like all right you want the best archer you're gonna get the mass archer i don't think that would work so he yeah he has to go for that again he restarted the huntress in the main base a bit earlier i think he fully identified that was gonna die anyway the one at the mercenary camp so it's very well done by moon but yeah he needs to defend he needs to hold on an infinity in the meantime you can't count on him being solid with the production he's getting long rifles he's getting a shock mount tanking on the way in the first arcane sanctum as well i need a repair soon here is moon but okay the rest of the army is here now we see double rex rifles plus an mk and if i'm not mistaking the double rex rifles is also a style that you like from time to time yes sometimes but uh in fee's execution when he goes for this build is just absurd it's so good that's what brought him a lot of success in wgl he kept on doing those rifle attacks sometimes even on one base and i think you fully understand that if giants gets online you're gonna be in big trouble so the way he plays is he'll go to 50 very quickly he'll keep on creeping a little bit more and then he'll go to 70 80 supply do a big attack on the night elf expand and usually by this time it's so hard for night elf to be able to hold on and then after that if night elves on one base it doesn't matter if even if they get giants you can just go for inner fire in a fire rifles rainbow yes then you add knights and you're totally fine are you actually agreeing with remo now after one and a half years after you had that argument i can't believe it today it is indeed a special day martin king probably gets the first chunk of experience as the rifles come out as well moon isn't nearly ready for anything the lowers will finish in a second he's halfway to tier three but beastmas is not really an orb carry he plays it solo so where's the damage coming yeah he's gonna rely more on the units that he's getting to try and get through this but the thing is pay very close attention to infinite supply 57 already he's securing the first merchant he's very easy gonna go to the second one and secure it as well if he wants to wait does he push directly he bites he still has the passengers with him is he tower pushing this with 60 yeah it's great to have peasants just to start making towers there as to say to the elf you have to fight you have to come right now you have no choice and you just try and force a bad fight out of it because you got a power strike early and book of the dead actually we see pre-started training already halfway through done two mountain giants moon is not even on tier three he goes for the mg's without upgrades because he feels i need something in front tier three is about to finish but here's the push the ap will be heard has to cancel it so not even static defense in this or against this push seven supply down is moon the beast master not really the late game carry demon hunter not level two yet rather squishy mountain king has a lot of mana and the heel stroll two invo potions so hero focus you can probably forget about that and entry tower pushes we've seen them over and over and over again mostly on echo isles recently but he brings it back and let's see how successful that is at the start of the fight here his best chance is to kill those priests and then use the book of the dead but those god towers in the back they're gonna finish very very soon he sends them to quilby's with piercing damage that's gonna do a lot of damage this splits them enough that one dispel cannot hit both if you can get a cancel on the stars maybe moon has a chance but demonstrator being targeted he's gonna get stuffed at the last second super well done here by moon but remember those giants don't have upgrades yet oh mk might be surrounded here has the big involved two out of three towers cancelled the third one might come up now though bear was a little lazy over there is now rejoining these forces and hardened skin is ready these mountain giants finally have the upgrade they need and now they can tank an enormous amount of damage and they're the perfect unit against that many rifles here to be at the front to take all of the damage while the archers are gonna do the damage themselves tower being targeted is being repaired so much infield still with the supplied it's 72 to 69 diminisher comes back only healthy points are slightly less but he does have the orb now finally beastmaster getting level five mid fight and a lot of those priests don't have that much mana to work with at this point gotta be careful here in fee is paying a lot of attention to this illusion which was a nice little move by moon to confuse and have a little more meat or stone in the front line supply is very even leveled slightly favorable for moon but the archmage should scale a lot better the push continues infy is not done with this yet he knows his tier is one below t2 versus tier three the more mountain giants they are the harder this game is getting the third one is coming up the fourth one is coming in there's some big dispel standing on the scroll base here bear will be someone at the back of the army there's four giants now ideally you'd like to have multiple orbs here but so far only the demons got one those heroes can get targeted very easily giants trying to do some work themselves rifles being pulled at the back of the army here to be healed by those priests two towers in the back also coming up right now oh he has a heel scroll holding on to it the team and i'm just so close getting stabbed out bash on the mg that's the way to get rid of the archmage in the north has to go for the heel scroll now to save him he's blocking himself a little bit the improportion of the mountain king who's on the opposite side of this fight and now moon can he stabilize supply still very even reinforcements are looking good but the heroes for infie aren't more and more killed going moon's way and you were kind of laughing about that stampede earlier in this game but we're getting closer and closer to that old yeah i mean those squeal beasts doing such a good job at the back of the army it feels also so good at kiting absolutely the best player in the world at kiting with rifles like this you see every time it starts being a little bit dicey he pulls back repositions he makes it very hard for an army that has melee units to fight effectively against this but now he's kind of he's stuck here and it feels a little bit keeps going gaining taunted he's trying to run away mouth thinking at the front taking a lot of damage he's got the greater influence he's gonna tp out might have to use the infant he uses it on time one more rifle will fall and now moon has held 78 supply he can go for some creeping on the demon enter maybe get level three which against the mountain would be amazing and in fee what does he have to show for to try and fight against this he's getting castle but it feels like it's so late like even if he gets a couple nights there's like so many giants out on the field yeah he needs a little fire it feels like knights would be great frag sharks maybe moon is also transitioning away from mountain giants into bears and that's of course roar there's redo that's more normal damage and there's no clap on this mountain king it's stone bolt and bash and then the bears are having a way easier time than they normally have heel scrolls on the side of the fifth race off we go i think uh the push swings into infini's face now yeah and moon is getting such great upgrades as well he's getting plus two armor right now looking up or plus three that's a three because yeah wow so expensive but you could still afford it he's almost maxed out yeah exactly the mountain giants two of them very hard but with redo that helps a little it's night time moon welts are regenerating and will we see sappers now to blow a hole into this defense of infie doesn't seem to be that way going bad she's pretty interesting here i wonder why exactly he did that like a lot of the time you would see clap there and in case there are bears clap can be better but i guess he realized he did he wasn't gonna have that much mana to work with so yeah archmage finally five players and he needs to choose between brilliance level 3 or whatever metal level 3 he goes brilliance yeah he wants to have extra matter for his priest and his mouthing king i'm i don't know todd there's no dryad in this game there's of course a couple of wisps but aren't water metals great wouldn't in a fire be great maybe even a sorceress yeah sometimes you can get one sorceress to try and throw some slows uh here and there but i mean against mgs they don't really care so much about it it's more to try and counter the bears usually and yeah we have two plus two attack at least four rifles frag shards now finally completed as well priest master training about to finish the brilliance of this these two players moon was forcing the tp off of infe doesn't have to go for his own and can creep the red spot here so this is level four in a bit for the demon hunter as well good item for him but his slot start actually has to send the beastmaster back for that of cunning on the other side we got a blood mage making his debut in this tournament yeah this is really nice and fun way to counter here the demon hunter is that like he's going to be taking a lot of the matter away from the mountain here so you can just give him mana back and even take more mana away from the demon hunter so nowadays if there is a demon enter made at any point and you really want to try and counter that and you haven't made your third hero yet you can definitely have the blood mage try and do that but he still doesn't have clap it's stumbled level 2 and bash for the human player here and moon is kind of maxed out he's at 80 he got all the upgrades he's floating in 800 gold the first production facility is gone here we see the siphon excellent position for infield of course how to engage here it's in a fire on the rifles it's so much damage moon are you over committing the mountain giants are taking quite a bit of damage there's a little bit of a stun lock over there and the mountain king is being fed by that blood mage now moving forward the metabolism is of course a little stronger but you can't prevent all the storm balls this is a really bad position i cannot believe he's fighting here there's not even any knights and this army is gonna do fine just because the position was this good here for infini he's holding on strong right now martin king going low needs to be careful actually he doesn't have staff he never paid a visit to that shop just yet to buy that once he reached castle or i guess he was too focused on heading back to the main base for the defense demolition being left a little bit behind quill beast in the main base moon has been sending summons all over the place to harass those peasants like main and expo but infie has reacted well enough to really negate those losses very well resistant skin finally being added on as well and moon he's got a ton of gold but what does he go into here to try and really counter this army even more does he add a lot of bears like kind of feels like he has to and if there's not that many bolts he can also make dryads he did build an engine of wind so we can certainly expect fairy dragons to come in to counter the priests but is that enough oh look at these mountain giants that is 28 supply and two of them are about to die nice smiles on stream bro nice math and nice rhyming skills as well right [Music] mountain looking pretty scary here with that level four double hearing scroll he actually has triple healing scroll that is three here that is three healing scrolls indeed man you're following up with the math skills here unbelievable a powerful push for sure how can moon respond he has a tp he is three three now does he have nature's blessing he must have at this point oh no oh yeah he does needs repair is he in time oh infie i can definitely see him a click this the mother team's under attack have to move but the calculations by infy are even better than ours here and he kills the second base of moon who's still floating in gold who is still on high upkeep but that was a big achievement for the four race king infield mad genius realized that moon was out of position he knew he could get that base moon's only chance is somehow to get some perfect matter burns and land a big stampede on this army i mean he's very close to level six but even killing like any units here has felt very difficult so far keep in mind infi he has some good mana management here because he has the blood mesh third but he kind of lacks healing in the form of a paladin third because of that so the three healing sprawls kind of make up for that and if you look at the positioning again so nice like so many of the giants and units are kind of trapped in the middle of everything he's gonna be positioned a little bit the mountain like i said there's no holly lights to really keep him very healthy he might have to tp he also has he also has no inward potion so it is a little scary excellent position on the ferry dragon there as well he'll go to the side for moon the mountain giants now in a way better position he's pushing through that needle hole in fee can you hold on without the great position doesn't seem like your tower loud indeed back into the base and other buildings are protecting him again yeah workshop under assault here in the meantime moon is taking the natural he's taking a third base at the same time what is his twisted meadows in the old days he's expanding on the play fairy dragons set up perfectly on the left-hand side they cannot be attacked by most of these rifles only one of them can and those rifles they're falling left and right beastmaster is level six oh stampede is skilled we're not seeing this yet here we go the ultimate where are the lizards into the passenger line that is pretty much the perfect spot for them all the passengers getting wrecked here how long can he stay in the mountain king is not ready to throw the storm ball to interrupt this so this is tons of tons of damage done by this old bolted the demon because the demon was coming in for the metabones so many of those units are red here moon might have to tell polo very soon yeah he needs to save all of this here oh my god oh my god this is so close and he saves everything moon what a genius he didn't break the base he killed all the peasants though yeah and behind this moon has three three upgrades yeah his upgrades are so absurd like he's never missed a beat with them but neither did infinity 3-2 and he just started the last upgrade for rifles i don't understand why he's not adding knights though baby's worried that there will be chimps eventually but then you're supposed to get flying machines especially like he would also counter the fairy dragons with him he really wants to commit on the rifles it's tighter he's using a healing scroll outside of a fight that's how much he needs to heal right now that's the problem of not playing uh an alchemist at all with this that's all level five demands soon that's absolutely true moon's army is at 80 with great upgrade but it's also at 50 percent mountain king gets a ring i think we all love that very much now we have a solution to keep the mountain king a little safer with the staff of sanctuary town portland rebought these hero levels are going to be insane level 5 demon hunter level 3 meta burn makes everything even a little easier for moon man this is the match that we were hoping for at wcg at wgl they finally deliver yeah really i found their series in wgr quite underwhelming it felt like moon wasn't prepared to play against human and even though he said that that was the one race he was worried about here in the interview he's playing incredible here so far this has been back and forth and now i mean the main good thing like of course he did a lot of damage in the last attack but he lost just a few units and he got back to 80 supply which is perfect because then it just double expanded so now his economy is about to completely take off again and infie is about to line up both bases unless refuge they kind of might have samus he was coming in let's see if he can get a good engagement blizzard landing big time on this army there is blizzard level three right now this is so strong moon has only one heal scroll and in the fights prior he was also very close to being eliminated or to to being defeated now with only one source of healing is that enough two scrolls on the side of infie is that the genius re-skill that wins in the game he's getting tons and tons of kills right there todd yeah moon that blizzard is landing on top of everything right now he needs to find a way to deal with his army a little better but like i said infest kiting and repositioning has been beautiful now taking out of mana i can start transferring mana in a second demon goes for a burn on the archmage that's that's the last blizzard in the wild but these giants they're running solo on hit points moon lost 24 supply in this fight and counting if he's still at 65. metamorphosis is far far far away mountain keeps back being fat okay stampede is back into the back line you can position yourself as good as you can but if stampede is hitting you in the back you better run yeah that's the thing if he could just run away as you need from this there's not enough triads to really slow this army there's just the one triad which is now about to die moon has double expo behind this so he's gonna have a lot more goals to work with look at if he hasn't even taken he hasn't even cleared the base on the right-hand side and those peasants are getting caught demon hunter is almost five and a half that's a level that you don't want to give him at this point the summon positioning by moon man knowing exactly that the patterns would move there for a little bit of long distance mining to set up another town hall but quillbeast and bear say no so infy can you slap down can you knock down this tree of life once again there's only one more time this time moon tp that was questioning shouldn't utp earlier ho but he said no can he do it now once again blizzard he has a lot of wisps you will they connect to the background they're not focused at all so here are the detonators and that's very powerful almost no matter anymore these priests yeah if he is completely all in here he has he has one single peasant left in this economy the blood mage goes down the monitor still has an egg to revive if he were to be sniped but mountain he completely out of mana it looks like moon is doing it here he killed all of the peasants but one moon will take map number one after an absolute barn burner as they call it what a match between them definitely the best of the mainstream so far you know what todd it's been the same for plenty of years if you give moon time to prepare he shows up with a concept at wgl it was semi-finals and grand finals at the same day so moon had like what two hours to prepare maybe here he had more than a week and this is the moon we know and love yeah that was really well played honestly from start to finish he understood everything he needed to do it looked a little bit dicey the attack in the main base though i think that's the one thing but he attacked because he felt like if he just sat back he would just get heart counters by knights which strangely infie never tried that was probably the one main thing if i look at this game i don't really understand why he was uh committing so much on rifles it does feel like a couple nights with inner fire would have been able to help out quite a bit against those mgs maybe he doesn't like to play melee against the mountain giants because they get so distracted by taunt and lose their position maybe he thought the buildings and the terrain can block for him yeah i mean it was right in the first place but not forever like eventually moon got on top of this army at the expo and like you can't tell i'm a human player because immediately it was like you might have to tp here because like moon is like right on top of this army and immediately you saw the top behind and yeah that's also like what i was talking about with the blood mage like yes your mana management is gonna be good but your mountain king is not going to be getting those holy lights keeping him healthy at the front so that's the tricky part that's it can be very hard to manage he wore this army down very nicely but moon overall his decision-making was so good to temple the moment he did it just heal everything back up even using the scroll he did it like a lot of elves they would be like using scrolls to heal outside of fights no way like you barely get any value for those giants well that's value he needed to keep his army healthy and fight again boy we're loading into the next map in a bit and that is going to be echo isles which could be a very very special one again we saw from law light it was against undead but the warden works of course against human as well but infi has found a very solid strategy against that if you want to beat a warden you probably do it on lower levels and what's better to keep a hero low than to tower pusher yeah he does that on one base and on here too and like his execution of it again is the best by far out there out of any human there's also things that he does early on right like if he's convinced that there's going to be an agenda forward made at the mercenary camp he might send a media to try and get a cancel on that like moon his job is to also make play play it a little bit safer than that what we saw in wgl lastly was that a lot of natives they were really worried about making their enchanted while there so they weren't even creeping the mercenary camp first and instead doing the safe top camp first the small green so i'm really curious whether moon is going to try to go for mercenary camp first and those infi also tried to do something about it because he played that crazy mind game of they're going to be scared to do it so i'm not even going to do anything about it because they're not going to do it by default and it actually worked out low light didn't even try to do it and in feed didn't even scout when they played yeah the warcraft iq in this game is so high but i think we have to mention this our three-time wgl champion of 2020 is 0-3 in the group stage here at dreamhack he's facing elimination man this is not going to be too easy for infy if he's not getting this map yeah it's been a rough start but on the other hand he defeated colorful 2-0 i believe and now he's winning against cynthia's delivering so far in this tournament the most titled player of all time on warcraft 3 the one with the most earnings showing up in a big tournament with a lot of money all makes sense in the world right now and isn't it wonderful that compared to dreamhack anaheim he shows up in time and didn't get lost that was the most important thing for me here first thing as we are in our second map as we said echo isles is it the warden is it the keeper is it a neutral hero is it the demon hunter there are so many questions and how will infy answer this is it mk first is it archmage first so many possibilities it's definitely infy against the robes and the four race king has to deliver with his main race now after five maps in a row that moon took that infie took off of moon moon swings back and we swing back in game to echo isles here we are we get moon with a wonderful position on the right hand side we got infy in the blue as the human alliance of colored in the upper left-hand side so yeah what do these early builds tell us it tells us it is not a neutral hero build order for moon again no beastmaster he's gonna go for the warden did you see that by the way like i was so eager to quit the game that it started going towards my chair you're just old man you can't but i couldn't but no i was still on camera so yeah before 30 moments but it is the warden which on this map is extremely strong again infe usually knows how to counter that pretty well but he didn't go for an early scouts to try and get a cancel on that ancient or at least some damage but he will scout it now and there is a chance like usually against the warden you'd either creep the small green at the top then you start pressuring or you go for straight expansion okay this is going to be real interesting now how good is moon's warden by now he was definitely struggling to catch up with the skills of lorelei but that is no shame because like who has the skills of them oh the shuttle priest spam goes to moon that was super close can he keep it up though that's of course a wonderful weapon against water elementals with a single target this one oh one of the crips is attacking the priest here putting it really low so this is going to make boone scraping really uncomfortable look at that peasant being so annoying when footman shows up as well in the meantime infuse completing the green camp on the other side and behind this there's a chance he just pressures a lot as the night elf here also like you need to be careful that the human doesn't start heading for you very early he has a wisp right outside where that green camp is at the top to make sure he would see any movement out but yeah the creeping of this camp has been super delayed here but just one peasant and one footman exactly good uh moments by infy so far who's heading straight down to the natural this is no tower push with the blood mage this time i guess i mean it's in fee we never know but the shock coming the police thought it looks like he just wants to expand yeah unless he pulls back home now but i doubt it's already has five peasants here you already found a claw of course it's you know we know in fifa always finding this damage item and as i say that boom you're cursed there we go don't talk about items otherwise you summon the rings you know it level 2 warden on the other side we got a crystal ball can be decently helpful against the player like infy with so many tools you want to make sure what's up but of course moon has the whisper in position as you said and gets another kill with equipment here can't really be denied if he's moving on though pretty quickly just one camp after the next and it's that's a quick level three for him yeah i wonder if he might steal any of the items here like if you take away obviously there's two pair of boots it's very rare that we see any player buy both and then sell one but the staff of teleportation is a big one that if you can steal it you know that the night off is not going to have it the night of usually always wants to have that here for them but playing against the warden and expanding can be very dangerous because you know fan of knights level two will start wrecking your peasants uh momentarily and then that's when you start falling behind and you're forced to make these pushes that are very hard to pull off so i won't do what's the exact plan here for entry but i'm kind of liking how this is going for moon so far this is a little later of an expansion for the night of but he's also starting to attack a lot earlier as it is pretty common but oh my god he got three whispers in position for the detonate are you kidding me how prepared can you be fan of knives immediately two footman that's it that's it he just tapped out interview he studied the previous votes he learned from them and is that just yeah definitely figured out how to play against here in this case he was

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