TELLING US HE ONLY ACCEPT ELECTION RESULTS WHEN HE WINS.
LAST NIGHT AT A GOP DINNER IN MINNESOTA, TRUMP FALSELY
CLAIMED HE BEAT PRESIDENT BIDEN IN THE STATE IN 2020 QUICK FACT CHECK. BIDEN WON
MINNESOTA BY MORE THAN 230,000 VOTES. TRUMP'S MIDWEST CAMPAIGN
STOP CAME ON AN OFF DAY FROM THIS 2016 ELECTION INTERFERENCE
TRIAL IN NEW YORK TRIAL PROVING TO BE A 12 EDGE OF SORTS.
THIS WEEK REPUBLICAN HOUSE MEMBER SKIPPED OUT ON THEIR DAY
JOB TO SHOW FEALTY TO A CRIMINAL DEFENDANT JUST, YOU
KNOW, HAPPENS TO BE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. EVEN HOUSE SPEAKER
MIKE JOHNSON JOIN THE FLOCK. PARROTING TRUMP'S LIES
ATTACKING THE AMERICAN LEGAL SYSTEM. JOINING US NOW, FORMER
HUD SECRETARY AND CEO OF THE LATINO COMMUNITY FOUNDATION
BLAND CASTRO AND SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT FOR VANITY FAIR
MALAYSIAN FASTBALLS ARE MSNBC POLITICAL. I WAS GOOD. >> MORNING MICHAEL MOORE AND IT
IS SAD. NEW YORK. SO GOOD TO BE HERE. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR
YOU, MOLLY. SO AFTER THIS WEEK OF OF CINEMATIC INS BY
REPUBLICANS COMING UP TO, YOU KNOW, FROM THE TRAIN, YOU
KNOW, SPENDING TIME WITH THEIR LEADER, WHAT WAS YOUR TAKEAWAY?
WE YOU JUXTAPOSE THAT FROM THE DRAMA OUTSIDE THE COURTROOM
WITH THE DRAMA INSIDE THE COURTROOM AND THE POLITICS THAT
THE REPUBLICANS WERE TRYING TO SPIN ABOUT DONALD TRUMP SITTING
THERE WITH MICHAEL COHEN MAILING MAILING THE CASE YOU
HAVE REPUBLICANS SAYING WAS IGNORE ALL OF THAT BECAUSE THE
REALITY OF IT IS ELECTION WAS STOLEN AND DONALD TRUMP IS
BEING UNFAIRLY MALIGNED IN THAT NOW CHARGE.
HOW HOW SHOULD WE BE READING THIS WEEK AND AS THIS CASE
WINDS DOWN AND THE RAMPING UP BY REPUBLICANS. >> SO MY FAVORITE THING ABOUT
WHAT HAPPENED THIS WEEK, WAS YOU, ED ELECTED
REPUBLICANS, INCLUDING THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES, RIGHT? THE NUMBER TO THEORETICALLY
PRESIDENTIAL, YOU KNOW, IT PRESIDENTIAL SUCCESSION,
DELIVERING SPEECHES TO GET AROUND TO THE GAG ORDER THAT
DONALD TRUMP WAS RIGHT. SO DOCTOR VISITS GAG ORDER.
HE CAN STILL MALIGN THE JUDGE AND HE CAN STILL MALIGNED THE
DEA, BUT HE CAN'T MALIGN THEIR FAMILIES, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT
THE GAG ORDER SAYS. IT'S NOT SOME CRAZY GAG ORDER, BUT HE'S
SO DESPERATE TO GET AROUND IT THAT HE BROUGHT DOWN ELECTED
REPUBLICANS TO DO THAT TO HIS CRIMINAL CASE, WHICH IS HIM
TESTIFYING. AND BY THE WAY, A LOT OF THE CASE THIS WEEK
WITH HIM AND AN ADULT FILM STAR SORT OF ARGUING ABOUT WHETHER
THEY HAD HAD A SEXUAL ENCOUNTER WHILE HIS 3RD, HIS 3RD WIFE WAS
RECOVERING FROM BIRTHING THEIR 5TH STRAIGHT, HIS 5TH CHILD.
SO I'M SORRY, THE PARTY OF MORALS AND VALUES LAW AND
ORDER. WHAT IS HAPPENING? >> SOME. >> HOW ABOUT THIS FOR MSNBC DOT
COM THIS WEEK? WHY WOULD THESE 2 THINGS? BUT FOR THEM, IT'S
NBC DAILY, BUT I JUST IT IS DAY A GROTESQUE RATTLING.
I FEEL LIKE OF OUR SEPARATION OF POWERS. IT IS LITERALLY LIKE
THE AS MANY LITTLE THINGS YOU CAN FIND TO THE FOUNDING
FATHERS BECAUSE WHAT WE SAW IN MY OPINION AND I CHECK TO CASH
VERY INTERESTED IN WHAT YOU THINK. BUT THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES STANDING TO BE CLEAR THE TRAVELING BE
HAPPENING IF CONGRESS HAD NOT EXERCISE THEIR DUTY AS AN
INDEPENDENT BODY TO HOLD THE EXECUTIVE ACCOUNTABLE, RIGHT,
BECAUSE MICHAEL COHEN BEFORE CONGRESS NOW BECAUSE THE
PRESIDENT ASKED HIM TO BECAUSE CONGRESS THAT WE GOT A JOB AT
THAT CREST WHEN IT IS IT. THIS IS NOT POLITICS AS USUAL.
THIS ISN'T BUSINESS AS USUAL. THIS SHOULD BE AS CORNELL
BELCHER PUT IT LIKE THIS IS AND THIS IS A MOMENT. THIS IS A
RATTLING OF OUR SEPARATION OF POWERS. I GRAB THE CAR AS THE
SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE, THE BASING HIMSELF BENDING THEM,
YOU KNOW, HAPPEN WHEN THAT STARTED TO ME CHOPPED OFF
ANYWAY. >> HOPE THE VOTERS WILL DO THAT
IN THIS CASE PROPER SOMEBODY LIKE. >> I MEAN, METAPHORICALLY HAHA
YEARS AND SO FAST. AND IT ALSO IS E PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHERE
REPUBLICANS RIGHT NOW PUT THEIR PRIORITIES GOING DOWN, SHOWING
UP AND AND TRYING TO DEFEND OR
SPEAK FOR DONALD TRUMP AT A TRIAL. WELL, IT INVOLVES HIS
AFFILIATION WITH, OF COURSE, OUR INSTEAD OF DOING THE
BUSINESS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THEY ONLY HAVE A 2 VOTE
MAJORITY. BASICALLY THEY CAN'T LOSE THE 12 PEOPLE THAT WENT
DOWN THERE THE OTHER DAY TO STAND UP FOR TRUMP. AND SO
BASICALLY WHAT THEY'RE TELLING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AS WE DON'T
REALLY CARE ABOUT DOING THE BUSINESS THAT YOU SENT US HERE
FOR WHAT WE CARE ABOUT, THE MOUTH PIECES FOR DONALD TRUMP
AND I SPENT SOME TIME IN POLITICS. MICHAEL, YOU DID TO
ME YOU ONLY DO THAT WHEN YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET
POLITICAL GAME SOMEHOW OUT OF IT. SOME OF THEM ARE THERE
BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE TRUMP'S VP. OTHERS
ARE THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE DEATHLY AFRAID OF THE BASE THAT
HE COMMANDS AND THEY DON'T WANT TO GET A PRIMARY CHALLENGE.
WHATEVER THE REASON IS THEY'RE NOT THERE BECAUSE THEY HONESTLY
WANT TO DO THE WORK OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THEY DON'T
CARE ABOUT THAT. >> MAYBE PEOPLE THINK THAT
MAKING IT UP IN CASE YOU MISSED IT, PLEASE. LET'S LET'S HEAR
THESE MEMBERS FOR THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
OUTSIDE THE COURTHOUSE. BILLY, LET'S PLAY IT. >> LISTEN, BECAUSE THERE ARE
THINGS WE CAN SAY THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP IS UNJUSTLY NOT
ALLOWED TO SAY THIS IS A CORRUPT JUDGE. THESE ARE
CORRUPT AND WITNESSES. THIS IS A CORRUPT PROSECUTION. >> WE'RE SEEING TODAY WHAT
LENGTHS THE DEMOCRAT PARTY WILL GO TO TRY TO RIG OR STEAL
ANOTHER ELECTION. THEY TRY TO DO IT IN 2020. THEY'RE DOING IT
AGAIN HERE IN 24 ABOUT TRYING TO KEEP THE NOMINEE OFF THE
BALLOT BY TRYING TO KEEP THE NOMINATION CAMPAIGNING. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP IS NOT GOING
ANYWHERE. HE'S COMING BACK FOR ANOTHER 4 YEARS AND WE ARE NOT
GOING ANYWHERE EITHER. >> SO TO BE REMISS NOT TO KNOW
IF YOU ARE CLEARLY START OR REALLY INSPIRED BY ALL OF THE
RED TIES THAT YOU SAW THE. >> WHERE RED TIE SOMEBODY ON
TWITTER OR SOMEBODY TO ARE YOU WEARING? >> IT'S A IT'S A BEAUTIFUL
COLOR. HERE'S THE THING THAT I THINK IS INTERESTING. IN
ADDITION TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE GAG ORDER IN THE WAY
THEY'RE TRYING TO SKIRT THAT IS THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE A
BUNCH OF THESE FOLKS IN DC AT A SHAM HEARING. NONE OF OVERSIGHT
COMMITTEE OVER MERRICK GARLAND AND THE RELEASE OF AUDIO TAPES
FROM SPECIAL COUNSEL BOB, HER INTERVIEWING THE PRESIDENT
OF THE UNITED STATES. THAT IS LIKE IT'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
THEY THEN SAY, SORRY, GUYS, WE CAN SHOW UP AT THE APPOINTED
TIME BECAUSE WE NEED TO GO TO NEW YORK, BUT WE'LL BE BACK AT
08:00PM. AND THEN THE CHAOS THAT WE ALL WATCH FROM MTV AND
SAYS SO IT'S LIKE IT'S ALL PART THEY HOLD. THE CHAOS IS IS
THEIR MISSION? YEAH. IT'S WHY IT'S BECOME 100% THEATER.
IT'S >> ONE SHARE HEAR YOU OVER HERE
IN DC OR THE SHOOTER OR THEIR SHAM SHOWING OF A LEGITIMATE
TRIAL IN NEW YORK UNIT. THAT'S WHAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY TODAY
HAS BECOME. IT'S ALL ABOUT THEATER. IT'S ALL ABOUT HOW
MUCH MONEY CAN YOU RAISE BY GETTING OUT THERE IN DEFENDING
DONALD TRUMP HOW YOU MIGHT POSITION YOURSELF FOR HIM TO
LOOK UPON US, A VP CANDIDATE OR PUT YOU IN HIS CABINET. AND YOU
KNOW WHAT'S LOST IS REALLY TRUTH. YOU KNOW, THESE GUYS ARE
OUT THERE. THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE IS THE SYSTEM PUTTING THE
REPUTATION THAT PEOPLE ASSOCIATE WITH THAT TITLE, THE
SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE ON THE LINE FOR A GUY WHO IS ON TRIAL
FOR GIVING HUSH MONEY TO A PORN STAR, A IT THAT TOTALLY DEBASE
IS OUR AMERICAN POLITICAL SYSTEM. YOU KEEP THAT AND KEEP
THAT KEEP DOING IT. THERE ARE ONLY 2 PARTIES HERE AND THIS
PARTY HAS 100% GONE OFF THE RAILS, BECOME A CLOWN SHOW,
EMBRACE THE CHAOS AND THE EMBARRASSMENT. YOU KNOW, THE OTHER PARTY THAT
THAT IS TRYING TO BE SERIOUS AND SUBSTANTIVE. HOW LONG CAN
YOU HOLD UP THE WORLD? >> IT'S THE BUT EVEN THAT
SERIOUS PARTY THAT'S TRYING TO BE SUBSTANCE, SUBSTANTIVE CAN
GET DRAGGED DOWN INTO THE CLOWN SHOW. AND SO IN A PLAY FOR YOU,
MY A LITTLE BIT OF A A MASH-UP OF OF THE MTG VERSAILLES SORT
OF DANCE THAT TURNED INTO SOMETHING OTHER THAN CRAZY. >> DO YOU KNOW WE'RE HERE FOR? >> YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE.
YOU KNOW WHETHER THEY'RE FOR. >> WELL, YOU DON'T WANT TALKING
ABOUT. I THINK YOUR FAKE EYELASHES ARE MESSING. NOT MIND
THAT. >> ORDER MISTER CHAIRMAN NEED
EVEN MORE TO GET SCREENED, AGREES TO STRUCK OR WORDS, I
BELIEVE. AND THEN AFTER MISTER PERES WILL BE RECOGNIZED AND
I'M NOT APOLOGIZING, HE WELL, I AM NOT PAULA JAI SINGH ELLIS
CUP COME OUT A SCRAP IT. >> I'M JUST CURIOUS JUST TO
BETTER UNDERSTAND YOUR RULING. IF SOMEONE ON THIS COMMITTEE
THEN INC. >> STARTS TALKING ABOUT
SOMEBODYS LEAST LINE BAD BILL BUSH BODY THAT WOULD NOT BE
ENGAGING IN PERSONALITIES. CORRECT? WHAT NOW? >> MY FAVORITE MOMENT. BAD
BILL. ONE OF THE SELF RESTRAINT.
IT. YES. >> YES, I WILL BACK WE GO WITH
THIS. I MEAN, BECAUSE THIS IS THE REST OF THE YEAR, FOLKS.
THIS IS THE REST OF THIS COMING TO US. IF YOU'RE LUCKY, IF YOU
LOOK, THIS IS THE REST OF THIS COMES FROM. >> I THINK THE TOP LINE HERE IS
WHEN YOU LOST JAMES COMER. ALL RIGHT. JAMES COMER, WHO IS
BY NO MEANS A NORMAL REPUBLICAN WAS EVEN LIKE MTG. WHAT ARE YOU
DOING ON THE LOOK, THE FACT THAT THIS OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE
TOOK PLACE AT 08:00PM BECAUSE THEY WERE IN THIS CRIMINAL
TRIAL SHOULD NOT BE, YOU KNOW, AND THEY HAVE WORKED REALLY
HARD. REMEMBER IT. THEY STARTED A COMMITTEE, THE WEAPONIZATION
OF GOVERNMENT, THESE REPUBLICANS. SO WE KNOW WHERE
THEY'RE YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRYING TO WEAPONIZE THE
GOVERNMENT TO GO AFTER JOE BIDEN. AND WHAT I THINK IS
PRETTY INTERESTING IS THAT IT HASN'T REALLY WORKED, RIGHT? >> YOU SEE WHAT IS THERE NEEDS
TO BE SOME THERE THERE AND THERE'S NO THERE THERE. >> BUT SUBSTANTIVE, YOU'VE GOT
TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN MAKE THE CASE WITH. AND PART OF
THE PROBLEM, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE IMPEACHMENT OF
JOE BIDEN, THE IMPEACHMENT OF MY ILK, US, WHATEVER, WHATEVER
IT IS, SUBSTANTIVELY, IT IS NEVER BEEN THERE FOR THESE
REPUBLICANS. SO TO YOUR POINT, MISTER SECRETARY BECOMES A NOT
JUST A CLOWN SHOW, BUT ONE THAT IS ULTIMATELY DESTRUCTIVE TO
THE PROCESS, WHICH AGAIN, A SORT OF THE THE END GAME HERE
TO DECONSTRUCT THE ADMINISTRATIVE STATE. WHAT
WOULD YOU DO THAT IS ON OF THE HEARING. >> OF THE CONGRESS. YEAH.
ONE OF THESE WAS SO FAST ABOUT THOSE COUPLE OF MOMENTS.
ONE OF THAT WE JUST SHOWED WAS BEEN IN POLITICS A LOT OF TIMES
THAT COLLEGIALITY YEAR LEAST OUTSIDE APPEARANCE OF A
EVERYTHING'S FINE. WE GET ALONG EVEN IF YOU'RE, YOU KNOW,
TRYING TO KNIFE SOMEBODY IN PAWHUSKA. THIS IS ANOTHER SIGN
OF THE BREAKDOWN OF OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM AND PROCESS
THAT YOU HAVE THESE FOLKS NOW MORE OUTWARDLY OPENLY GOING AT
EACH OTHER LIKE THAT. THIS IS A KIND OF STUFF THAT YOU CAN.
SO YOU SEE A 9 OTHER COUNTRIES, WHAT IN THE WORLD IS GOING ON
OVER THERE? BUT I'LL TELL YOU, I THINK TO MOST FOLKS, IT LOOKS
LIKE, OH, LET'S SPEND THEIR SPAT. THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AMONG
COLLEAGUES. YEAH, THAT OFFICE EVEN AMONG COLLEAGUES WHO OUR
OF DIFFERENT PARTIES, IT'S DESCENDING FURTHER AND FURTHER
DOWN. AND THAT WAS ONE EXAMPLE OF IT. >> I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT
I THINK THAT IT WAS CONGRESSWOMAN MARJORIE TAYLOR
GREENE. YES, THAT HAS THAT. IT IS THE REASON THAT WE'RE AT
THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. YOU KNOW, JAMES COMER HAS
ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN. HE NO ONE POPPED HER BACK AND SAID
WE'RE NOT DOING TO FLY AT NOT ONE SENIOR REPUBLICAN ON THAT
COMMITTEE. AND SO I THINK THAT MUCH NOW I WOULD HAVE RESPONDED
WITH ITS DEMOCRATIC MEMBERS RESPONDED, YOU KNOW, OF A
POWERFUL MOVE WOULD BE FOUND. A WHITE MAN TOLD ME SHUT UP ON
NATIONAL TELEVISION WANTS, AND THAT IS I DID TO MAKE THAT
TO KEEP MY JOB. BUT I I APPLAUD THE MEMBERS FOR DEFENDING
THEMSELVES, DEFEND MYSELF THAT WAY. BUT THAT'S NEITHER HERE
NOR THERE. BUT SHE IS THE REASON THAT IT LIKE THIS.
AND NOW THE GENIE IS OUT OF ALL THE PUBLIC AND LIKE ALL THE
CALL THAT THE CHAIRMAN ON ON SILENTLY LIKE THAT USED THE
NAME, THAT WE'RE TIRED OF IT, OK, WELL, YOU NEED TO DO
SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR ISSUE. >> YEAH, THEY DO. AND THAT'S A
THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT TO MAKE. IS THAT WHEN THAT STARTED
FROM THE MOMENT, MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE BEGAN TO, YOU
KNOW, EXECUTE THE CLOWN PART OF THE SHOW, THE MEMBERS OF THAT
COMMITTEE. IF YOU NOTICE THAT WAS NOT A REPUBLICAN AT THAT
DAY, AS THAT SAID, I THINK THEY'LL JUST KIND OF SAT BACK
AWAY FROM IT. AND THAT TELLS YOU EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW
ABOUT WHERE THE GOP AND MY VIEW IS RIGHT NOW. SO THERE ARE NEW CALLS FOR
SUPREME COURT JUSTICE SAMUEL ALITO TO RECUSE HIMSELF FROM
DONALD TRUMP CASES. THE CHAIR OF THE SENATE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE, D*** DURBIN SAYS, QUOTE, FLYING
UPSIDE DOWN AMERICAN FLAG, A SYMBOL OF THE SO CALLED STOP.
THE STEAL MOVEMENT CLEARLY CREATES THE APPEARANCE OF BIAS.
JUSTICE ALITO SHOULD BE QUES HIMSELF IMMEDIATELY FROM CASES
RELATED TO THE 2020 ELECTION AND THE JANUARY 6 INSURRECTION.
THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO A NEW YORK TIMES REPORT THAT AN
UPSIDE DOWN AMERICAN FLAG WAS FLOWN OUTSIDE OF THE JUSTICES
HOME DAYS AFTER THE JANUARY 6 CAPITOL RIOT RANKING MEMBER OF
THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE. REPRESENTATIVE JERRY NADLER
JOINS US NOW HERE AT THE TABLE. WELCOME, CONGRESSMAN.
CONGRESSMAN, SO GOOD TO SEE US CASE. >> PART OF WHAT IS INTERESTING
TO ME IS NOT THAT THAT JUST THAT THIS HAPPENED BUT LETO'S
RESPONSE TO THE NEW YORK TIMES SAYING IN AN EMAIL, QUOTE, I
HAD NO INVOLVEMENT WHATSOEVER IN THE FLYING OF THE FLAG.
IT WAS BRIEFLY PLACED BY MISSES ALITO IN RESPONSE TO A
NEIGHBOR'S USE OF OBJECTIONABLE AND PERSONALLY INSULTING
LANGUAGE ON YARD SIGNS. BUT HE DOES NOT DENY THAT THE FLAG WAS
FLOWN AS A SHOW OF SUPPORT FOR STOP THE STEAL. >> YES, NOR DOES HE DENIED THAT
IT WAS THERE FOR SEVERAL DAYS. AND THAT TELLS ME THAT THAT IT
WAS OK WITH HIM. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN FLOWN FOR A COUPLE OF
HOURS AND FOUND THAT ABOUT TO TAKE YOU DOWN. THAT MIGHT BE A
DIFFERENT THING. BUT HIS PHONE FOR SEVERAL DAYS, HE SHOULD CERTAINLY RECUSE
HIMSELF FROM ANY JANUARY 6 TO 8 FROM CASE MANY CASES RELATING
TO THE 2 PRESIDENT TRUMP BECAUSE HE'S ASSOCIATE WITH THE
STOP, THE STEAL MOVEMENT. NOW WHETHER HE WANTS TO BE OR
NOT AND SET AND JUSTICE THOMAS SHOULD ALSO DISSOCIATED RECUSE
HIMSELF FROM THE SAME REGION BECAUSE HIS WIFE WAS A NOTED
THE PROTAGONIST IN THE STOP, THE STEAL MOVEMENT AND YOU'RE
SUPPOSED TO AS A JUDGE IS SUPPOSED TO AVOID NOT JUST
IMPROPRIETY BUT THE APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY. THIS ALSO SHOWS
A NECESSITY OF AN ENFORCEABLE JUDICIAL CODE OF ETHICS.
THERE'S IT FOR THE SUPREME COURT. THERE'S INFORCEMENT
JUDICIAL CODE OF ETHICS FOR EVERY FEDERAL JUDGE OTHER THAN
THE SUPREME COURT. U.S. SUPREME COURT CHIEF
JUSTICE ROBERTS PROMULGATED A CODE OF ETHICS THAT IS TOTALLY
UNENFORCEABLE. SO TO TO YOUR POINT COMES WHEN YOU HAVE A
HAKEEM JEFFRIES, I'M MAKING NOTE OF THAT OF THAT AND SAYING
WHAT DEMOCRATS WHO ARE PREPARED TO DO SHOULD THEY TAKE CONTROL
OF THE HOUSE IS TAKE A QUICK LISTEN. >> WE DO NEED OVERSIGHT OF THIS
SUPREME COURT THAT HAS UNDERMINE FREEDOM IN MANY INSTANCES, INCLUDING A
WOMAN'S FREEDOM TO MAKE THEIR OWN REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE
DECISIONS. THEY'VE BEEN SEVERAL DOCUMENTED
INSTANCES SEEMINGLY CORRUPT BEHAVIOR
WITHOUT ANY CONSEQUENCE AT MINIMUM IN OUR SYSTEM OF CHECKS AND BALANCES WITH SEPARATE AND CO-EQUAL
BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT. IT IS CONGRESS'S RESPONSIBILITY TO
ENGAGE IN RESPONSIBLE OVERSIGHT OVER THE JUDICIAL BRANCH. >> SO IT'S LONG OVERDUE TO
BRING THE SUPREME COURT IN LINE WITH THE REST OF THE FEDERAL
JUDICIARY. HOW DOES THAT LOOK IN YOUR VIEW AND AND WHAT?
WHAT CAN WE DO? WHAT SHOULD WE BE SAYING NOW IN THE SPACE
INSTEAD OF WAITING UNTIL NEXT JANUARY SPRING? WHAT SHOULD THE
MESSAGING BE COMING OUT OF CONGRESS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE
HEARING COMING OUT OF THE SUPREME COURT? >> THE MESSAGING RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, WE SHOULD CERTAINLY ENACTED ENFORCEABLE CODE OF
ETHICS. THE MESSAGING RIGHT NOW SHOULD BE THAT BOTH THE
JUSTICES, ALITO AND THOMAS WHO ARE INVOLVED IN ONE ANOTHER, AT
LEAST AN APPEARANCE IN THE STOP. THE STEAL MOVEMENT SHOULD
RECUSE THEMSELVES FROM MORE CASES INVOLVING JANUARY 6 AND
UP ROBIN, DONALD TRUMP, YOU'VE GOT THE IMMUNITY CASE WHERE
THAT WHERE THEY BOTH SHOULD RECUSE HIMSELF. THEY SHOULD
HAVE RECUSED THEMSELVES ON THE A COLORADO 14TH AMENDMENT CASE.
BUT THEY DIDN'T. I THINK IT'S ALSO VERY INTERESTING THAT THE
TURNAROUND, THAT COLORADO CASE TO THE ADVANTAGE OF DONALD
TRUMP VERY QUICKLY, WHERE IS THE IMMUNITY CASE? WHAT SHOULD
BE AN OPEN? SURE. I THEY REFUSED TO A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR
SMITH'S REQUEST THAT THEY HAVE SKIPPED A COURT OF APPEALS AND
TAKE IT UP AND THEN INSTEAD IT WHEN THEY
DID TAKING UP INSTEAD OF DOING IT QUICKLY, SCHEDULED
ARGUMENTS, THE LAST DAY OF THE TERM OF THE ARGUMENTS, APRIL
25TH AND WILL PROBABLY NOT GET TO A RULING FOR THE END OF
JUNE, BEGINNING JULY OF LAST WEEK, THE TERM AND THEY'RE
ALMOST AND FROM THE QUESTIONS JUST AS REST. AND AS I SAID,
THEY SHOULD BE AN OPEN AND SHUT CASE. IT'S THE PRESIDENT ADDED
STATES. YOU KNOW, THEY SEEM TO BE TRYING TO LOOK AND SEE A
MAKE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN OFFICIAL AND UNOFFICIAL AXING.
THAT'S RIDICULOUS. AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
OFFICIALLY ORDERED A SEAL TEAM 6 TO MURDER HIS RIVAL. HE'S HE CLEARLY WOULD NOT BE OR
SHOULD NOT BE IMMUNE FROM THAT. AND HE SAYS NO DISTINCTION
BETWEEN OFFICIAL. THE OFFICIAL ACTS HAS THAT NO COURT HAS EVER
EVEN HINTED THAT UNTIL NOW THAT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO TRY
TO DO THAT TO FAVORS PRESIDENT TRUMP. THIS LOOKS LIKE THE
COURT MAJORITY THAT IS TOLD ME THE TIME FOR DONALD TRUMP. >> YOU KNOW, IT IS A LOT HAS
BEEN MADE ABOUT JUSTICE KAVANAUGH. AMY CONEY BARRETT.
AGAIN, THE JUSTICES WHO DONALD TRUMP HIMSELF BUT ON THE COURT.
BUT IT SEEMS TO ME IS THAT THE JUSTICES THAT ARE MOST
CONCERNING AND MOST DANGEROUS TO THE UNRAVELING OF ONE OF THE
KEY PILLARS OF THE EYE OF OUR INSTITUTION. THAT IS OUR
DEMOCRACY, OUR DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC. I ACTUALLY JUSTICE
THOMAS AND JUSTICE ALITO AND I MEAN COULD ALSO THE NEIGHBORS
THAT THAT THAT CAME FORWARD. SO WE EVEN KNOW THAT THIS
HAPPENED. >> BUT THIS IS A THIS THIS IS A DIRE MOMENT. I JUST
SHUDDER TO THINK WHAT IF WHAT IF? >> JUSTICE KETANJI BROWN
JACKSON HAD A BLACK LIVES MATTER FLAG FLIES OUTSIDE HER
HOUSE. IT WOULD BE WALL TO WALL COVERAGE THAT REPUBLICANS IN
CONGRESS FROM THE ROAD. WHAT WE LIKE THIS WE NEED ARE IN HERE
RIGHT NOW. >> IT FEELS LIKE THERE'S A
LITTLE UPROAR ABOUT THIS BY MONDAY. WE WILL BE TALKING
ABOUT JUST UNDERLINE SOMETHING. >> THAT IS ESPECIALLY SCARY,
GIVEN THE DOCKET THAT THE SCHOOL HAS TO HAVE. >> GIVE AND I GET THIS GREAT AS
IT'S ESPECIALLY SCARY. AND BUT BUT, YOU KNOW,
LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER APPOINTEES OF TRUMP TO ALL 3 OF
THEM. AND REMEMBER, ONE WAS STOLEN BY SENATOR NOW IN
EFFECT, BUT ALL 3 OF THEM WHEN ASKED ABOUT ROE V WADE, SURE,
THE SENATE THAT IS SETTLED LAW IS SETTLED PRECEDENT. THEY ALL
THAT'S WHETHER OR NOT TO OVERTURN IT. BUT OF COURSE THEY
DID AT THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY. SO THEY GO. NONE OF THEM HAVE
CLEAN HANDS, NOT A FINANCE. AND AGAIN, WE NEED I WOULD SAY
WE NEED 2 THINGS. WE NEED TO ENFORCE THE CODE OF ETHICS AND
WE NEED TERM LIMITS ON THE SUPREME COURT, WHICH IS BILL
I'VE INTRODUCED. >> BUT I KNOW WE'RE GOING ABOUT
TO TAKE A BREAK FROM, BUT I WHAT I WANT TO DO A FOLLOW UP
WITH YOU ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU THE CONGRESS CAN IF WE HAVE
TIME, IF IF CAN YOU CALL THE CHIEF JUSTICE
AND YOU, YOU, YOU, THE CONGRESS, THE CONGRESS FUNDS
THE SUPREME COURT. THE CONGRESS HAS DIRECT OVERSIGHT OF THE
SUPREME COURT BECAUSE OF THAT. IS IT ARE YOU AT A POINT WHERE
YOU CAN CALL THIS CHIEF JUSTICE AND AND HAVE AN ACCOUNTING OF
THE BEHAVIOR AND THE REPORTING AROUND THE BEHAVIOR OF MEMBERS
OF HIS COURT RELATIVE TO THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED,
THEIR REFUSAL TO RECUSE THEMSELVES FROM FROM CASES THAT
IF THEY WERE A LAWYER, LAURA COURT, FEDERAL JUDGE, THEY
ABSOLUTELY WOULD BE RECUSED BECAUSE OF THE LEVEE. A
QUESTION. SO WHAT WHY IS THE SUPREME COURT ALLOWED TO BEHAVE
OBER LAW ABOVE THE LAW ABOVE THE ETHICAL REQUIREMENTS OF
THAT? EVERY OTHER FEDERAL JUST JUST JUDGE IN THE SYSTEM IS
ALLOWED AND THAT WOULD FOR ME WOULD BE WORTH HAVING THE CHIEF
JUSTICE COME IN AND EXPLAIN OUR APP. >> I HAVE ONE MORE THING ON TOP
OF ITS IF I THOUGHT NO ONE WAS ABOVE THE LAW IN THIS COUNTRY,
BUT IT FEELS AS THOUGH SPRING COURT JUSTICES ARE BECAUSE
THEY'VE BEEN ALLOWED TO UP UNTIL THIS POINT. IT'S
ESSENTIALLY DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH NO CONSEQUENCES. >> WELL, IT DOES. IT DOES FEEL
THAT WAY. IF I WERE THE CHAIRMAN OF THE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE REP AND I KNOW, YEAH, WHAT I CAN DO A IN THE
SENATE IS THERE THAN IT IS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE SENATE AND
PERHAPS HE WILL DO THAT AND I HOPE YOU WILL. >> SO THE CALL SO JUSTICE
SAMUEL ALITO TO RECUSE HIMSELF FROM CASES CONCERNING DONALD
TRUMP ARE MOUNTING. THE LATEST FROM HOUSE DEMOCRATIC LEADER
HAKEEM JEFFRIES JEFFRIES PUTTING OUT A STATEMENT SAYING,
QUOTE, SAMUEL ALITO SHOULD APOLOGIZE IMMEDIATELY FOR
DISRESPECTING THE AMERICAN FLAG AND SYMPATHIZING WITH
RIGHT-WING VIOLENT INSURRECTIONISTS. HE MUST
RECUSE HIMSELF FROM CASES INVOLVING THE 2020 ELECTION AND
FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP. CONGRESSWOMAN PRAMILA JAYAPAL
IS WITH US NOW IN NEW YORK. WELCOME, CONGRESSWOMAN. >> THANK YOU, MICHAEL
CONGRESSWOMAN, IT'S ALEXI MCCAMMON WITH THE WASHINGTON
POST. THANKS FOR JOINING US THIS MORNING. GREAT TO BE WITH
YOU. LEXI JUSTICE ALITO BLAMED ALL THIS ON HIS WIFE. YOU
BELIEVE HIM? >> NO, I MEAN THAT THAT WAS
SUCH A SHAM MOVE, A COWARDLY MOVE, I WOULD SAY. BUT LISTEN,
IF THE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES WANT TO CONTROL WOMEN'S BODIES
ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THEN A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE SHOULD
CERTAINLY BE ABLE TO CONTROL WHAT FLAG IS PUT ON THEIR FLAG
POLE AT THEIR HOUSE. AND THIS WAS NOT A FLAG THAT WAS THERE
FOR JUST A COUPLE OF HOURS. THIS WAS THERE FOR SEVERAL
DAYS. HE DID NOT DENY IT. AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE
LEVEL OF A CORRUPTION AND CONFLICTS OF INTERESTS THAT
HAVE PLAGUED THE SUPREME COURT HAVE REALLY CONTRIBUTED TO THE
LOWEST EVER RATINGS OF TRUST OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN THE
HIGHEST COURT OF THE LAND. AND I THINK HE HAS TO RECUSE
HIMSELF FROM THE 2020 ELECTION CASES THAT ARE BEFORE HIM.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WELL KNOW AND THAT I THINK
CONGRESSWOMAN IS WHERE AMERICANS BECOME SO FRUSTRATED,
LEAST THOSE OF US WHO ARE PAYING ATTENTION, WHICH IS YOU
SAY THIS IS A COURT THAT DOES NOT SEEM TO BE HELD TO ACCOUNT.
YOU HAVE PEOPLE POINT TO JUSTICE ROBERTS, THE CHIEF
JUSTICE AND SAY, WELL, HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET HIS OWN
HOUSE IN ORDER. CLEARLY HAS NOT UP TO THAT TASK. THEY'RE NOT
BEING HELD TO A CODE OF ETHICS THAT WOULD ALLOW THAT WOULD
ALLOW A FORCEFUL RECUSAL FOR THEM. THERE HAS BEEN SOME
INTEREST ON THE PART OF SENATE JUDICIARY TO CONSIDERING AN
INVESTIGATION INTO WHAT HAS HAPPENED HERE FOR AMERICANS WHO
ARE SAYING HOW DO WE HOLD THIS INSTITUTION TO ACCOUNT? WHAT IS
THE ANSWER? I THINK THE ANSWER IS JUSTICE ROBERTS IS CLEARLY
NOT HOLDING THEM TO ACCOUNT THE CODE OF ETHICS THAT HE PUT OUT
HAS NO ENFORCEMENT WHATSOEVER. IT'S A WEEK TO START WITH AND
THEN IT HAS NO ENFORCEMENT WHATSOEVER. I DO THINK THAT
CONGRESS HAS TO STEP IN AND SENATOR DURBIN HAS SAID, BUT
THIS IS THE DIRECTION THAT HE WANTS TO GO. I THINK THAT'S THE
ONLY ANSWER BECAUSE I MEAN, I JUST DON'T THINK
PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THE SUPREME COURT, THE HIGHEST
COURT OF THE LAND IS THE ONLY FEDERAL COURT THAT HAS NO
ACCOUNTABILITY WHATSOEVER WHEN IT COMES TO ETHICS. SENATOR
WARREN AND I HAVE ALSO A BILL, OUR SUPREME COURT ETHICS AND
ANTI-CORRUPTION ACT. THERE ARE ANY NUMBER OF WAYS THAT WE CAN
LEGISLATE. AND THE IDEA THAT WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE IT TO
JUSTICE ROBERTS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS HAS JUST BEEN
CLEARLY PROVED WRONG. HE IS NOT ABLE TO CONTROL HIS COURT OR HE
DOESN'T WANT TO WHATEVER IT IS. IT'S A BAD SITUATION WHERE
PEOPLE CANNOT TRUST THAT THE SUPREME COURT IS MAKING
DECISIONS WITH OBJECTIVITY WITHOUT CORRUPTION. AND LET'S
NOT FORGET, ALICIA, THAT JUSTICE ALITO IS ALSO THE
JUSTICE THAT HAD TAKEN A TRIP WITH A BILLIONAIRE HEDGE FUND
MANAGER AND THAT HEDGE FUND MANAGER THEN HAD SEVERAL CASES
BEFORE JUSTICE ALITO SIMILAR TO CLARENCE THOMAS. SAME
SITUATIONS WHERE YOU HAVE SPOUSES WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THE
2020 ELECTION. GINNI THOMAS, MUCH MORE CLEARLY SO BUT NOW
WITH THIS FLAG INCIDENT AT SAMUEL ALITO'S HOUSE, YOU CAN'T
JUST SAY, LOOK, THAT WAS MY WIFE AND I'M STILL FINE TO DEAL
WITH US. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY IMPROPER AND UNDERMINES THE
LEGITIMACY OF THE SUPREME COURT. MOST IMPORTANTLY HURTS
OUR DEMOCRACY WHEN THESE CASES COME UP BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE
ARE CLEARLY BIASED. MY CAN I JUST ASK YOU REAL FAST, CAN YOU
IMAGINE THE UPROAR THERE WOULD BE IF JUSTICE KETANJI BROWN
JACKSON FLAG UPSIDE DOWN OUTSIDE IF YOU IMAGINE IF
JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR RIGHT STAINS TO SHOW THIS TYPE OF
DISRESPECT TO THE FLAG. >> WELL, NOT ONLY THE NOT ONLY
THAT IT BUT THEN COMPOUNDED WITH ALL OF THE OTHER GRIFF
THING THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE. IT WHEN WE DO, THE REPUBLICANS WOULD BE IN CRAMPS.
THEY WOULD BE SO BENT OVER IN PAIN FROM FROM WATCHING THIS
UNFOLD. AND YET THEY THEY JUST THEY WANT TO EXCUSE IT AWAY.
AND AND AND SO CONGRESS, WHEN YOU HAVE CNBC SUPREME
COURT, JUST NOTING THE SUPREME COURT JUSTICE CLARENCE THOMAS
HAS BEEN PRESSING HIM ON WHETHER OR NOT HIS ADDRESS.
THE $267,000 LOAN RV LOAN MISSES AT THE MOMENT. JUSTICE
THOMAS HAS DONE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO ADDRESS THE
PERCEPTION THAT HE MAY HAVE FAILED TO REPORT HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND FORGIVING DEBT OF HIS FEDERAL
INCOME TAX RETURNS AND PAY THE INCOME TAX. THE REALITY OF IT
IS THEY'RE ACTING WITH IMPUNITY
THAT THESE FOLKS ARE BEHAVING AS IF THEY ARE IN FACT, ABOVE
THE LAW. THERE ARE NO ETHICAL STANDARDS. I MEAN, COME ON.
WE SAW THIS EXERCISE OF THEM PUTTING TOGETHER SOME ETHICS
PLAN AS A JOKE. IT'S NOT ENFORCEABLE. IT HAS NO
TEETH. THAT MEANS NOTHING. WHAT DOES WHAT DOES THIS MEAN
FOR JUSTICE ROBERTS TO HAVE ALL THIS HAPPENING WITH AT LEAST 2
OF THE MEMBERS OF HIS COURT WHO ARE EGREGIOUS, LEE FLAUNTING,
YOU KNOW, FINANCE RULES AND, YOU KNOW, SHOWING THEIR OBVIOUS
POLITICAL BIAS AND SITTING ON CASES AND UNRULY ON THOSE CASES
WITH NO APPARENT RECOURSE. >> I'M GLAD YOU WENT TO JUSTICE
ROBERTS BECAUSE THIS IS THE ROBERTS COURT. AND HE HAS
CLEARLY SHOWN THAT HE HAS NO CAPACITY TO LEAVE THE COURT.
HE IS UNWILLING TO HOLD HIS OWN JUSTICES ACCOUNTABLE. HE IS
UNWILLING TO MAKE SURE THAT HIS COURT HAS LEGITIMACY WITH THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE. I MEAN, WE ARE AT THE LOWEST LEVELS OF
TRUST EVER IN THE HIGHEST COURT OF THE LAND. THAT IS A STUNNING
SITUATION AND IT HAS TREMENDOUS IMPLICATIONS FOR OUR DEMOCRACY,
FOR OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM. AND JUSTICE ROBERTS IS DOING
NOTHING ABOUT IT. AND I JUST I THOUGHT THAT HE WOULD BE
SOMEBODY WHO WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME SKIN IN THE GAME
IN TERMS OF WANTING TO HAVE LEGITIMACY TO HIS COURT.
MICHAEL, THAT'S JUST CLEARLY NOT TRUE. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT
ETHICS CODE THAT THEY PUT OUT, I LOOKED AT IT AGAIN THIS
MORNING. YOU KNOW, IT IS IT IS WEAK AT BEST AND IT HAS 0, 0,
ACCOUNTABILITY. THERE IS NO ENFORCEMENT WHATSOEVER. AND
ALREADY THESE JUSTICES HAVE VIOLATED THE THINGS THAT ARE IN
THAT IN THAT CODE SO THAT JUSTICE ROBERTS NEEDS TO BE THE
ONE TO SAY, NO, YOU NEED TO RECUSE YOURSELF FROM THESE
CASES. AND AND THEN OF COURSE, AROUND THE TRANSPARENCY AND
CORRUPTION. HOW WHAT A SAD DAY IT IS IN THE COUNTRY WHERE
SUPREME COURT JUSTICES CAN WE CAN BE BOUGHT OFF WITH FISHING
TRIPS AT LUXURY LODGES AND ALASKA OR WHEREVER IT IS.
THEY'RE GOING. THAT IS JUST IT'S A IT'S A TERRIBLE,
TERRIBLE SITUATION FOR OUR PEOPLE. >> IT IS IN THE SATURDAY WHEN
THE SUPREME COURT JUSTICE HANGS THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES
UPSIDE DOWN ON HIS FRONT PORCH. THAT TO ME IS AN ABOMINATION. WE REALLY ALL HE WAS SERVED
WITH AN INDICTMENT OVER THE ARIZONA TWENTY-TWENTY FAKE
ELECTORS SCHEME DURING HIS 80TH BIRTHDAY PARTY LATE FRIDAY.
THE EXTRA LAWYER IS THE LATEST IN A STRING OF TRUMP ALLIES AND
LAWYERS CHARGED FOR TRYING TO PREVENT THE LAWFUL TRANSFER OF
POWER AFTER PRESIDENT BIDEN WON THE ELECTION FAIRLY. GIULIANI
WAS SERVED 2 HOURS AFTER BOASTING ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT
HE WOULD HAVE CHARGES TAUNTING ARIZONA ATTORNEY GENERAL KRIS
MAYES. I GUESS WHAT HIS POSTS HAVE SINCE BEEN DELETED. >> ANTHONY COLEY AND CHRISTINA
GREENBERG ARE BACK WITH U.S. ATTORNEYS WHO CAN TAKE THEIR
OWN ADVICE. MICHAEL IS WHAT I THOUGHT WHEN I SAW THAT TWEET
POSTED AND THEN DELETED. SO IT'S HERE'S THE THING.
ANTHONY, HERE'S THE REASON. IT WAS IMPORTANT TO ME AND
MICHAEL, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD THIS STORY IN THE SHOW
TODAY, WHICH IS WE HAVE ALL BEEN HYPER-FOCUSED ON THE NEW
YORK TRIAL FOR VERY GOOD REASON. THERE IS A LARGE
APPETITE IN THIS COUNTRY TO SEE SOME ACCOUNTABILITY AS IT
RELATES SPECIFICALLY TO THE QUESTION OF THE WAY IN WHICH
REPUBLICANS, DONALD TRUMP AND HIS ALLIES HAVE MESSED WITH THE
INTEGRITY OF OUR ELECTION OUTCOMES. RIGHT. SO WHILE THAT
IS HAPPENING IN NEW YORK, IT'S NOT IN TIME REALLY
DISCONNECTED FROM WHAT WE'RE WATCHING OUTSIDE OF ARIZONA AND
IS A REMINDER IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT DONALD TRUMP AS AN
INDIVIDUAL BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE. IT IS ABOUT ONE
THE ENTIRE CABAL, THE SUPPORTED AND WORKED WITH HIM TO
UNDERMINE OUR ELECTIONS. AND IT IS ABOUT MAKING SURE
THAT IN THE RUN-UP TO THIS PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, YOU ARE
BROADCASTING TO ANYONE WHO MIGHT WANT TO TRY ANY OF THE
SHENANIGANS. AGAIN, THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. NOT HERE.
NOT THE UNITED STATES WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE. >> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
THE ENTIRE BALL IS THE RIGHT WAY TO DESCRIBE IT. YOU KNOW,
AND AT LEAST WE OFTEN TALK ABOUT TRUMP'S EFFORTS TO STILL
THE LAB LAST ELECTION AS THE BIG LIE. AND IT IS THAT, BUT IT
IS ALSO A BIG CONSPIRACY IS A CONSPIRACY THAT PLAYED OUT WITH
MULTIPLE PLAYERS IN MULTIPLE STATES AND GEORGIA AND MICHIGAN
AND NEVADA AND ARIZONA. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, WHAT
AMAZES ME, MICHAEL, ABOUT THIS ENTIRE SCHEME IS THE ERA GETS
IT ALL AND THE FACT THAT DAY OF ALL OF THESE CO-DEFENDANTS,
THEY IGNORED THAT 60 COURT CASES SYSTEM COURTS ACROSS THE
COUNTRY, INCLUDING 8 IN ARIZONA, ARE FROM JOE BIDEN'S
WIN OVER OVER DONALD TRUMP. AND I MUST STEP BACK FOR
SECOND. I NEVER MADE THIS ANALOGY ON AIR, BUT I BECAUSE
THE FUNDAMENTALS ARE ARE DIFFERENT. BUT I THINK THE
OUTCOME IS THE SAME. MICHAEL, I WORKED ON THE GORE CAMPAIGN
FROM THE IOWA CAUCUSES ALL THE WAY TO THE FLORIDA RECOUNT.
AND WHEN ON 12/13/2000 WHEN THE SUPREME COURT RULING AND GEORGE
W BUSH'S FAVOR, I WAS CRUSHED. THERE WERE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE
WHO SUPPORTED GORE. WE WERE CRUSHED OF THE PEOPLE WHO
WORKED ON HIS CAMPAIGN'S REQUEST. BUT WE DIDN'T THAT
DIDN'T GIVE US LICENSE TO IGNORE WHAT THE COURT HAD
FOUND. WE ACCEPTED THE RESULT AND THAT'S WHAT THESE FOLKS IN
THE TRUMP ORBIT SHOULD HAVE DONE. INSTEAD, THEY IGNORED THE
FACTS. THEY WORKED AROUND THE LAW AND ALICIA, THAT IT'S 5.
THEY ARE ON THE CUSP OF CRIMINAL ACCOUNTABILITY RIGHT
NOW. >> SO I THINK VERY MUCH SO THAT
POINT CHRISSY, YOU HAD GIULIANI DOING A LIVE STREAM OF HIS
BIRTHDAY PARTY WITH HIS GUESTS, OF COURSE, WHICH INCLUDES STEVE
BANNON AND ROGER STONE, OF COURSE, OF THE LAST TEAM TO
SHOW HIM BEING SERVED. I WOULD HAVE BEEN REALLY FUN. BUT I DO
WANT TO PLAY FOR YOU A LITTLE BIT OF SOUND FROM STEVE BANNON
AND I'M MAKING A PROMISE TO RUDY GIULIANI ON HIS BIRTHDAY. >> THIS IS HOW DANGEROUS THEY
KNOW THIS GUY IS. THEY HAVE EVERY INSTRUMENT OF STATE POWER
TO CRUSH ORIGINALLY ITEM BANKRUPTING TO PUTTING THE JAIL
TO SMEAR HIM. WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, OK, YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE
YOU'RE YOU'RE NOT NOT NOW INTO THE DEMAND. YOUR TO NET THAT
RUDY AT 80 YEARS OLD. HOW MANY PEOPLE? 80 YEARS OLD. YOUR
MOMENTS NOW TO FINALLY CALM THIS ONE AMERICAN NATION'S MOST
RIGHT, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT. AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO WIN A
2020 24 LESHER MAJOR PART OF THIS. >> SO, YOU KNOW, THE THE
NONSENSE THAT BAN AND SAID NOTWITHSTANDING, THE REALITY OF
IT IS HE GOT SERVED. AND SO THE JUSTICE SYSTEM ROLLED PAST ALL
OF THAT. SPEAK TO US A LITTLE BIT CHRISTIE ABOUT THE
IMPORTANCE OF THIS INDICTMENT RELATIVE TO ALL THE OTHER PLAYS
THAT WE'VE SEEN OUT HERE THAT HAVE BEEN UNFOLDING. SOME NOW
STYMIED AS WE SEE WITH, YOU KNOW, THE THE CASE, THE THE
PROSECUTION HERE IN WASHINGTON AND ELSEWHERE WITH JACK SMITH,
EVERYTHING SLOWING DOWN. TALK TO US ABOUT WHY THIS SORT
OF CHANGES THE GAME, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT AT THE MARGINS. >> WELL, I I ALWAYS JUST TAKE A
STEP BACK WHEN THINKING ABOUT RUDY GIULIANI AND JUST REMEMBER
THAT HE'S NOT ONLY AN ATTORNEY. HE IS THE FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY
FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK, MY OLD OFFICE.
I MEAN, THIS MAN WAS THE TOP PROSECUTOR IN MANHATTAN.
AND SO FOR HIM TO BE MOCKING OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT, OTHERS
WHO ARE JUST TRYING TO SERVE HIM WITH PAPERS AND TRY TO
SKIRT THE LAW IS JUST IT'S JUST SO ASTOUNDING TO ME. YOU KNOW,
LOOK, HE HAS NOW BEEN CHARGED IN GEORGIA IN CONNECTION WITH
SIMILAR FAKE ELECTORS SCHEME THERE. NOW HE'S CHARGED IN
ARIZONA. HE HAS COME UP IN THIS NEW YORK CASE AS THE PERSON WHO
IS TRYING THROUGH HIS GOOD FRIEND ROBERT COSTELLO TO
ESTABLISH A BACK CHANNEL TO DONALD TRUMP. WE KNOW HE'S BEEN
FOUND LIABLE. DEFAMATION OF, YOU KNOW, THE WORKERS, YOU
KNOW, RUBY FREEMAN, INC, A MOSQUE IN IN, YOU KNOW, IN
GEORGIA. I MEAN, IT'S JUST HIS HIS LEGAL TROUBLES JUST KEEP
MOUNTING. AND AT SOME POINT IS LECY SAID LIKE THERE HAS TO BE
SOME ACCOUNTABILITY. AND AGAIN, I THINK ARIZONA IS JUST YET
ANOTHER STEP TOWARDS THAT ACCOUNTABILITY
