>> FOR ALL THE FOCUS ON WHAT THE CANDIDATES ARE DOING, WHAT'S HAPPENING OUT THERE AS
THEY CAMPAIGN AND MAKE THEIR ARGUMENT TO TALK ABOUT POLICY,
WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON IN THESE STATES COULD MATTER MORE
RIGHT NOW. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT THERE. BASICALLY ANYTHING EXCEPT THE CAMPAIGN. CHECK THE FRONT PAGES RIGHT NOW
IN THE STATES AND YOU'LL SEE STORIES ABOUT WEATHER HOUSING.
TODAY'S HOLIDAY OF JUNETEENTH. YOU WON'T SEE ANY MAJOR FRONT
PAGE STORY IN THESE CASE STATES. WHAT I'M SHOWING YOU,
THE PAPERS ABOUT THE ELECTION AT ALL, IT'S
ALMOST LIKE IT HASN'T BEGUN EVEN AS WE KNOW THE PARTIES
PICK THEIR NOMINEE AND ONE IS A FELON AND THERE'S PLENTY TO
COVER IN DEBATE. IT'S THE SAME PATTERN ON LOCAL TV NEWS.
IN MANY OF THESE STATES WE CHECKED THE STORIES ARE ABOUT
LOCAL ISSUES OR WHETHER BUT NOT 2024. AND MONITORING TV AND PRINT
NEWS IS A GAUGE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPOSED TO IT WHO
FOLLOW SOME KIND OF NEWS. BUT THAT'S NOT ALL I CAN TELL
YOU. NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE JUST TUNED OUT COMPLETELY.
THERE IS A GROWING TREND. THIS IS A REAL THING. IT'S
CALLED NEWS AVOIDERS. THERE'S EVEN A WHOLE RECENT BOOK ABOUT
THIS AVOIDING THE NEWS. THIS IS PEOPLE WHO ACTIVELY DECIDED TO
AVOID NEWS AND INFO FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS AND THE
SHARE OF PEOPLE WHO DO THIS HAS RISEN TO OVER 35% OF AMERICA. ACCORDING TO
REUTERS. CAN YOU BLAME THEM? A RECENT
PEW REPORT NOTES THAT ABOUT 6 IN 10 AMERICAN ADULTS SAY THEY
ARE ALREADY WORN OUT BY COVERAGE OF THE CAMPAIGN.
REMEMBER, THIS IS THE CAMPAIGN THAT'S COMING AND HAS REALLY
FULLY BEGUN. THERE ARE STUDIES THAT SUGGEST
THIS IS NOT EVEN ONLY ABOUT POLITICS BUT THAT IT BEGAN WITH COVID WHEN I'M SURE YOU REMEMBER THE
NEWS WAS CONSTANT AND IT WAS SCARY AND SOME PEOPLE AFTER
WATCHING IT FOR HOWEVER, LONG WEEKS OR MONTHS BEGAN TO
TURN AWAY AND SAY MAYBE I DON'T NEED TO DO THIS REGULARLY AND THAT I'M TELLING YOU
TONIGHT AS PART OF THE CONTEXT OF THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN BREAKING
PRECEDENT TO JUMP-START THE EARLIEST EVER PRESIDENTIAL
DEBATE. IT'S NEXT WEEK. IT'S THE FIRST
SUMMER DEBATE EVER. IT'S AN EVENT THAT WILL BREAK
THROUGH ON TV AND THE INTERNET TO A NATION THAT MAY NOT EVEN REALIZE THIS
IS HAPPENING UNTIL IT HAPPENS NEXT THURSDAY. NOW THERE'S A POLITICAL CONTEXT
FOR THAT AS WELL. THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN IS BETTING THEY WILL
BENEFIT FROM REVVING UP ELECTION MODE EARLIER THERE.
DEMOCRATS WHO THINK THAT THE WAY THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN IS
FOCUSED ON TRUMP IS ONLY AN AUTOCRAT COULD BE A LOSING
STRATEGY, ESPECIALLY AS VOTERS ARE WORRIED ABOUT INFLATION AND
THE ECONOMY. BIDEN'S CAMPAIGN IS SEEKING A
MORE DIRECT CONTRAST TO TRUMP ON A STAGE. BOTH OF THEM ON
THOSE POLICIES MAY THINK THAT MAY HELP BIDEN MORE THAN THIS
CURRENT GLARE THAT IS OFTEN ON BIDEN ALONE AND THAT MEMORIES OF TRUMP'S
ACTUAL LEADERSHIP OR LEADERSHIP FAILURES IN STYLE MAY FADE. AS FOR THE DEBATE IN BOTH
CANDIDATES ARE RUSTY. THAT'S NOT A CRITICISM OF IRE THEM.
IT'S ACTUALLY JUST TRUE. THEY HAVEN'T DEBATED IN A LONG TIME. THE
PRESIDENT, OF COURSE, BIDEN DOESN'T HAVE TO DEBATE. HE
BASICALLY BECAME THE PARTY'S NOMINEE. AGAIN, TRUMP SKIPPED
HIS OWN PARTY'S DEBATES, FIGURING HE'D WIN WITHOUT THE
MANY DID. IN FACT, I CAN JUST REMIND YOU,
THESE CANDIDATES HAVE ONLY DEBATED ONCE IN THE LAST 7
YEARS AND THAT WAS WITH EACH OTHER. AND A LOT'S HAPPENED
SINCE THEN. NOW JOE BIDEN HAS MORE OVERALL
EXPERIENCE DEBATING. AS YOU CAN SEE IF YOU CHECK THE VAULT. >> THE UNITED STATES ECONOMY
HAS TO BE REVITALIZED, NOT JUST FOR THE SAKE OF AMERICA, FOR
THE SAKE OF THE WHOLE WORLD. I DO HAVE A RECORD, A
SIGNIFICANT ACCOMPLISHMENT. I HAVE A TRACK RECORD OF BEING
ABLE TO CROSS OVER AND GET THINGS DONE. I-35 YEARS IN
PUBLIC OFFICE. PEOPLE CAN JUDGE ROY AND GUESS WHAT? A LOT OF
PEOPLE DIED AND A LOT MORE GOING TO DIE UNLESS HE GETS A
LOT SMARTER A LOT SOONER. >> WELL, NEVERLAND THERE NOW
FOR DONALD TRUMP, DEBATES HAVE SERVED HIM. WHETHER YOU LIKE
HIM OR NOT, HE HAS BEEN EFFECTIVE WHEN HE'S USED THEM
TO GO ON OFFENSE TO BE MEAN TO BE EVEN PETTY. BUT THEY ALSO DID NOT SAVE HIS
PRESIDENCY WHEN HE HAD THAT DEBATE AGAINST
BIDEN, ATTACKED HIM ON HIS LUCK AND
BELIEVE ME, THERE'S PLENTY OF SUBJECT MATTER RIGHT THERE.
LITTLE MARCO AND LYIN TED. A NO PAD. IT'S PRETTY CLEAR.
IT'S SO WE WILL HAVE THIS HIGH
STAKES MOMENT FOR BOTH CANDIDATES IN THIS VERY
SPECIFIC CONTEXT. I TOLD YOU ABOUT THAT. THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN
WANTS TO START THIS THING EARLIER, WHICH MEANS IT'S NOT
GOING PERFECTLY YET FOR THEM. AND THAT THE LAST TIME THESE
FOLKS DID FACE OFF AGAIN, YOU COULD SAY BIDEN WON THE
DEBATE OF THE ELECTION, BUT WHATEVER HAPPENED, IT WAS ON
THE ROAD TO DONALD TRUMP LOSING AND THAT'S WHEN HE WAS THE
INCUMBENT. NOW WE HAVE A VERY SPECIAL
PANEL TO START OFF OUR SHOW TONIGHT. I'M THRILLED TO TELL
YOU BACK ON MSNBC IS ABBY HUNTSMAN. YOU MAY KNOW IS A
FORMER CO-HOST OF THE VIEW AND A CO-HOST OF OURS RIGHT HERE ON
MSNBC. AND WE'RE JOINED BY OBAMA CAMPAIGN VETERAN SHAKE
HOME. ENJOY. WELCOME TO BOTH OF YOU. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. GREAT TO
HAVE YOU GUYS. CHE. WE WILL GET TO YOU IN A MOMENT. >> AT THE INTRO SPECIFICALLY
FOR ME IS A MOM FOR 3 YEARS. TOTALING NEWS DEPRIVED. YEAH.
YOU FEEL LIKE THAT TEAM. DOES IT RESONATE? ABSOLUTELY.
AND I THINK THEY'RE SO MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE. I REMEMBER
SITTING AT A DIFFERENT STUDIO ON AL SHARPTON SHOW. IT'S I
DON'T KNOW, 6, 7, 8, YEARS AGO TALKING ABOUT DONALD TRUMP AND
BEING CROOKED. AND HERE WE ARE AGAIN RUNNING FOR WHATEVER TIME THIS IS
PROBABLY COULD VERY WELL WHEN HE COULD WIN. WELL, 3RD RIGHT
WILL BE HIS 3RD RACE. THAT DEBATES REALLY AN INTERESTING
BECAUSE I THINK THE DEBATES IN GENERAL DON'T HAS A TREMENDOUS
IMPACT. IT'S FUN TO WATCH. BUT I THINK IN THIS CASE IT'S
GOING TO BE LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. >> YOU'RE FOR PRESIDENT BIDEN,
THEY ARE FOR TRUMP. WELL, I NOTICED YOUR EYES WERE
SITTING HERE ON SET TOGETHER AS WE SHOW THE BIDEN THROUGH THE
YEARS, RIGHT? YOU SEE THAT ON THE ONE HAND, HE'S BEEN
UNDERESTIMATED. HE DIDN'T JUST LAST THIS LONG AND BE DONALD
TRUMP FOR NOTHING. BUT THE OTHER HAND, THE QUESTION THAT
HE FACES NOW IS IS HE AT THAT LEVEL OR NOT FROM THE PAST OF
81 BECAUSE IT LOOKS DIFFERENT TO GO BACK. >> THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT A
LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE. AND AS YOU SAID, WE'RE A WEEK AWAY.
SO WE'RE TOO CLOSE FOR ANYONE TO PULL OUT BECAUSE A LOT.
BUT ONE ARE BOTH GOING TO SHOW UP. ARE THEY ACTUALLY GOING TO
SHOW UP? WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE SAYING ABOUT JOB IF BIDEN PULLS
OUT? I THINK THERE ARE REAL CONCERNS ABOUT HIS MENTAL
HEALTH. WHY DID HE SHOW UP? AND IF TRUMP PULLS OUT ITS HIS
GAMING, THE SYSTEM, OF COURSE. >> BUT I DON'T THINK BIDEN'S
JUMPING OUT BECAUSE THEY THEY ENGINEERED THIS EARLIER.
THEY WANT THIS BADLY. THEY'VE GOT TO BE SO NERVOUS. SORRY. >> BECAUSE THERE ARE MOMENTS
WHERE YOU DO QUESTION, IS HE FULLY AWARE OF OF WHAT'S GOING
ON WHAT HE'S SAYING? I DO THINK THAT THAT IS A CONCERN FOR
PEOPLE. >> SO CHE, HOW ABOUT THAT POINT
THAT YOU RAISE, WHICH I THINK IS FAIR AS WELL, THAT THE
MEMORY OR EVEN FOR SOME NOSTALGIA RIGHT NOW HAS
BENEFITED TRUMP AND THE BIDEN FOLKS THINK THAT NEXT WEEK THEY
CAN CHANGE THAT HAVE A MORE DIRECT CONTRAST. >> YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK THAT
THE IDEA THAT THIS NOSTALGIA HAS BENEFITED TRUMP, I THINK
THIS IS THE KIND OF A FALSE IN POINT BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT
IT, TRUMP IS BASICALLY WHERE HE'S ALWAYS BEEN. HE'S ABOUT
41%. OF THE POLLS. HE'S PROBABLY GOING TO GET 45% AT
THE END OF THIS. THIS WHOLE THING HE'S FEELING I WOULD SAY
IT'S 47%, WHICH IS WHAT HE GOT LAST TIME AND STILL LOST. TRUMP'S NUMBER IS FIXED.
THE ISSUE IS THAT BIDEN IS LOSING SO MUCH TO INDEPENDENCE
IS NOT DONE SO MUCH TO THIRD-PARTY INDEPENDENT, ITS
AND THE PEOPLE WHO WERE UNDECIDED. THAT'S REALLY WHERE
THE RACE IS. CREAM, BIDEN AND THE 3RD PARTIES AND THOSE
VOTERS OR LOOKING FOR AN ALTERNATIVE BEYOND TRUMP AND
BIDEN. THIS DEBATE ALLOWS JOE BIDEN TO MAKE A SALE TO DEATH. >> HERE'S SOMETHING YOU MAY
HAVE HEARD ABOUT OR WILL BE HEARING A LOT ABOUT THE AI
ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE BOWMAN, THE MARKETS. THE BIGGEST AI
COMPANY RIGHT NOW IS NVIDIA. THEY BASICALLY MAKE THE KEY
CHIPS THAT POWER ALL THIS I WE'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT. AND HERE'S WHAT'S NEW THIS
WEEK. THEY JUST BECAME THE MOST VALUABLE COMPANY IN THE WORLD.
THERE ARE MANY WAYS YOU COULD COUNT THIS WORTH MORE THAN ALL
OF THE REAL ESTATE IN NEW YORK CITY WORTH MORE THAN OTHER
COMPANIES LIKE WARREN BUFFETT'S COMPANY OR GOOGLE GENERAL
MOTORS AND ALL OF THIS. THESE ARE WHAT THEY CALL. SO AS BIG
CAP TECH COMPANIES ARE DRIVING THE ENTIRE S P 500 STOCK MARKET
TO RECORD HEIGHTS AND INFLATION IS DROPPING ON PAPER. A LOT OF INDICATORS
WHETHER YOU HOLD STOCKS LIKE TO AN INDEX FUND YOUR RETIREMENT
OR ARE OTHERWISE EXPOSED TO IT, WORK AT A COMPANY THAT'S BEEN A
TICK BENEFITING FROM THIS. I SHOULD SAY A LOT OF ECONOMIC
INDICATORS THAT ARE ON THE UP. >> BY VIRTUALLY EVERY AVAILABLE
METRIC, THE ECONOMY SEEMS TO BE DOING REALLY WELL MADE A CALL.
BUT I WAS WRONG ABOUT THE SLOWDOWN IN THE RECESSION, THE
LABOR MARKET THAT HAS BEEN RESILIENT AND OFTEN STRONGER
THAN EXPECTED. BUT MANY AMERICANS DON'T FEEL THE
ECONOMY IS STRONG OVERALL OR HELPING THEM OR THEIR FAMILIES.
MORE THAN HALF OF AMERICANS BELIEVE THE UNITED STATES IS IN
A RECESSION. >> AND IF YOU BELIEVE IT WELL,
AND THAT'S REALITY TO YOU. NOW, THE ECONOMY ALSO DEALS
WITH PERCEPTION, MEANING THIS ISN'T JUST SOME EXTERNAL THING.
THEY LITERALLY STUDY WHAT THEY CALL THE CONSUMER SENTIMENT AND
SORT OF WHAT THE PUBLIC THINKS. ECONOMISTS ARE ACTUALLY
ACTIVELY STUDYING WHAT WE'RE IN IS THIS A PRODUCT OF THE MANY
THINGS THAT ARE DIFFERENT THESE DAYS, HOW WE GET INFORMATION,
TECHNOLOGY, THE POST-PANDEMIC FEELINGS OR IS IT SOMETHING
ELSE? BUT PEOPLE WHEN THEY LOOK AT PRICES AND COST OF LIVING CLEARLY CHANGING WHAT THEY
PRIORITIZE AND SO MANY AMERICANS AFTER THE TECH BOOM
AND BUBBLE IN THE BURR CYCLES IN THE FINANCIAL CRISIS AND 8
CAMPAIGN, IF YOU REMEMBER THAT WHICH ULTIMATELY ACTUALLY HELP
THE CHALLENGER, BARACK OBAMA AGAINST THE REPUBLICAN
INCUMBENTS, ALL OF THAT HAS SHIFTED AND
THERE ARE EVIDENT THERE'S A LOT OF EVIDENCE THAT PEOPLE LOOK AT
DIFFERENT INDICATORS NOW TO MAKE SENSE THE ECONOMY. A LOT
OF FOLKS DON'T THINK STOCK MARKET EVEN IF IT'S UP. THIS IS
RELEVANT TO THAT THAT I MENTIONED THE KEY SWING STATES.
WE BEGIN THE HOUR WITH POLLING THERE SHOWS THAT PEOPLE LOOK AT
THE COST OF LIVING HAS THE MOST IMPORTANT MEASUREMENT OF THE
ECONOMY. SO THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE ARE. AND POLITICALLY THAT'S BAD NEWS
FOR PRESIDENT BIDEN. AND YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THEIR PAST
PRESIDENTS, INCLUDING REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTS WHO SAID
LOOK AT THE STOCK MARKET, LOOK AT YOUR RETIREMENT
ACCOUNTS. YOU BETTER OFF THAN YOU WERE 4 YEARS AGO. THAT
MESSAGE DOESN'T CUT ICE RIGHT NOW. EVEN AS STORES, SOME OF THEM
LOWER PRICES. MANY PEOPLE FEEL THAT THEY ARE PAYING MORE FOR
GOODS AND SERVICES THAN THEY DID RECENTLY. AND THEY LIVED
THROUGH NOT ONLY THE REALITY, BUT ALSO THE KIND OF FEAR AND
INSECURITY OF INFLATION AND INFLATION IS GOING UP. IT WAS
HARDER TO ME BUDGETS. YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S GOING TO LAST
FOR A QUARTER OF THE YEAR FOR EVER. SO JOE BIDEN HAS SOME
GOOD NUMBERS, BUT HE STILL HAS A LONG WAYS TO GO IN SELLING
THE PUBLIC ON THIS REBOUND STORY. AND THEN THERE'S THE IDEA THAT
TALKING TOO MUCH ABOUT SOME OF THE WINDS LIKE IF YOU TALK
ABOUT, HEY, NVIDIA AI TECH IN THE STOCK MARKET, YOU MIGHT END
UP SOUNDING OUT OF TOUCH. IF YOU FOLLOW THE INTERSECTION OF ECONOMICS
AND POLITICS, THE LAST THING YOU CAN AFFORD TO BE AS OUT OF
TOUCH TO GO BACK TO AN ERA WHERE THE RECESSION WAS EARNING
A DIFFERENT CANDIDATE. GEORGE W BUSH, HE HAD THIS INFAMOUS
GROCERY STORE TRIP. IT WAS DESIGNED TO MAKE AN RELAY
DOUBLE, YOU KNOW, GROCERY STORES LIKE WE ALL GO TO EVERY
YEAR. BUT WHEN HE WAS BAFFLED BY HOW THE CHECKOUT PROCESS
USED THE SCANNER THAT HURT HIM MORE THAN ANY
OTHER ECONOMIC NUMBER HE MIGHT HAVE SOLD AND PLENTY OF
POLITICIANS FACE WHAT YOU MIGHT CALL THIS OUT OF TOUCH TEST. WE
TURN, FOR EXAMPLE, TO ARRESTED
DEVELOPMENT. >> I MEAN, IT'S ONE MANANA.
MICAH. WHAT COULD IT COST? 10 $1? YOU NEVER ACTUALLY SET FOOT IN
A SUPERMARKET BE I DON'T HAVE TIME. >> IF YOU WANT TO BE A LEADER,
IF YOU WANT TO REPRESENT THE PUBLIC AND YOU WANT TO SAY
YOU'RE DEALING WITH THEIR ECONOMIC TROUBLES, YOU BETTER
UNDERSTAND THEM AND THE PRICE OF GOODS. AND THIS HAS COME UP ON BOTH SIDES OF IF YOU WILL,
THE SHOPPING MARKET AISLE. >> GUYS, THAT'S $20 FOR CURRENT
DAY. THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE KILLING. >> YOU WANT TO BUY GROCERIES.
YOU NEED A PICTURE ON A CARD. YOU NEED ID. >> OR 6? FOX 2. >> AND NOW IT'S 5, 6, 7, AND
EVEN $8 A GALLON JUST HIT $8 AND $0.25. >> THERE'S DATA AND NUMBERS.
THEY SAY NUMBERS DON'T LIE AS ECONOMIC DATA, WHICH PEOPLE
INTERPRET DIFFERENTLY, AS I JUST TOLD YOU. AND THEN THERE'S
FEELINGS WHICH I GUESS KIND OF RANDOMLY HAS BECOME ONE OF THE
THEMES OF HER BROADCAST TONIGHT, THE FEELINGS THAT
POWER POLITICS. SO BIDEN STRONG RECORD ON THESE INDICATORS MAY
NOT CARRY THE DAY, WHETHER THAT'S INFLATION AND
THE SWING STATE VOTERS WHO I MENTIONED EARLIER, MANY OF THEM
IN THE KEY STATES, THOSE 7 STATES I TOLD YOU ABOUT RIGHT
NOW BASED ON WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BELIEVE TRUMP WOULD GET COST
OF LIVING UNDER CONTROL BETTER THAN BIDEN. I REMEMBER COST OF LIVING IS
WHAT THESE VOTERS HAVE SAID IS THEIR NUMBER ONE MOST IMPORTANT
INDICATOR OF THE ECONOMY. SO IF THIS IS ABOUT FEELINGS
AND POLITICS, MAYBE WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE AN
ECONOMIST. DAWN, NO SHAPE TO OUR GREAT ECONOMIST. THEY WILL
GO TO ONE OF OUR FRIENDS WHO UNDERSTANDS POLITICS AND
EMOTION. JASON JOHNSON. >> TEEN 0.4 MILLION NEW JOBS. >> HIS 3 JOBS IM STILL. >> STRUGGLING THAT TODAY'S JOBS
NUMBERS MAKE CLEAR MIX IS WORKING. >> BECAUSE WE'RE P***** O**
ABOUT THE STATE OF THE ECONOMY. GREAT TO HAVE YOU. WE HAD
ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT BANANA STAND. TALK FOR THOSE WHO
UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE TIKTOK WHERE I'M TOLD FOLKS THAT WHAT
PEOPLE ARE WEIGHING IN AND YOUNG PEOPLE ARE UPSET ABOUT A
LOT OF THINGS AS THEY ARE OTHER FOLKS DEAL WITH JOBS AROUND THE
COUNTRY, EVEN AS SOME OF THE NUMBERS TELLING IMPROVING
STORY. AS WE SHOWED, AS I MENTIONED, WE CAME TO YOU FOR
THE POLITICS OF IT, NOT JUST THE RAW DATA. WHAT DO YOU SEE
HERE IS THE POLITICAL CHALLENGE? >> WELL, I THINK IS REALLY
INTERESTING OR YOU START WITH THE REST OF DEVELOPMENT AND THE
BLUES. I WAS THINKING OF ANOTHER ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT,
THE ONE TO TALK ABOUT EVERYDAY PEOPLE AND PEOPLE DON'T THE WAY
THE BLUE STATE, MISTER BACK UP AND THIS WINDOW AND MOM IS
ALWAYS ON STAGE EVERYDAY. PEOPLE ARE INTERPRETING THIS
ECONOMY IN COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WAYS. AND THIS THIS IS THE DATA
BEHIND HENRI THIS WITH THE POLITICS COMING, THE KINDS OF
THINGS. IT WAS GREAT. THE RESEARCH STUDY ON ABC ABOUT
THIS, THE KIND OF THINGS THAT USED TO INDICATE HOW PEOPLE
FELT ABOUT THE ECONOMY, PERSONAL SAVINGS, INFLATION,
HOUSING PRICES, ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT MATTER BEFORE 2020
ARE REALLY REGISTERING IT SIGNIFICANTLY STATISTICALLY
SIGNIFICANT NOW. SO WE'RE IN OUR FIRST POST-PANDEMIC
ECONOMIC ELECTION AND NOBODY KNOWS HOW PEOPLE FEEL THAT THE
BAT, THE VIBES ARE ALL BAD. >> AND SO THE QUESTION IS, HOW
DO YOU SELL THAT? WE JUST SHOWED THE BACK AND FORTH WHERE
YOU DO HAVE TO STAND ON THE BUSINESS THAT YOU'RE DOING AND
THEY HAVE A STORY TO TELL IN THE WHITE HOUSE, BUT YOU CAN'T
ALIENATE OR A PROVERBIAL THE GASLIGHT PEOPLE WHO FEEL
DIFFERENTLY. >> SO FIRST OFF, YOU HAVE TO BE
HONEST ABOUT WHERE THE ECONOMY IS AND WHAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING
AT NOW. RIGHT? SO IF YOU ARE 55 YEARS OLD AND YOU HAVE A KID IN
COLLEGE, YOUR PERCEPTION OF THE ECONOMY IS I LOST A LOT OF
MONEY DURING THE PANDEMIC. MAYBE SOMETHING HAPPENED TO MY
4, 1, K GIVE ME A VISION FOR THE FUTURE. THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION HAS TO SAY WE'VE PUT INVESTMENT. WE TRIED TO
SAVE RETIREMENT FUNDS. YOU WILL BE ABLE TO RETIRE. WE'RE GOING
TO PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY, KEEP DEMOCRATS IN OFFICE AND
PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY. IF YOU'RE TALKING TO 18 19
YEAR-OLDS THAT YOU'RE TALKING TO, SOMEBODY JUST GRADUATED
FROM COLLEGE OR JUST WORKING OR JUST BEING OUT MILITARY, YOU
HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT WE'RE DIVERSIFY. THE ECONOMY
MAY BE IN 2019, YOUR PLANT MONEY, TREES IN 2024, YOU
REALIZE YOU JUST WANT SOME SHAPE. YOU NEED TO TALK ABOUT
THE FACT THAT THE BIDEN ECONOMY IS NOT JUST GOING TO SEND YOU
OUT TO THE MINES. IT'S NOT JUST GOING INTO THE MILITARY, THEIR
DIVERSE PLACES WHERE YOU CAN GET WORK. IT IS NOW JUNETEENTH,
RIGHT? THE THE UNEMPLOYMENT GAP BETWEEN BLACKS AND WHITES IN
AMERICA IS THE LOWEST IT'S BEEN IN OVER 40 YEARS. SO MOST
PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT BIDEN HAS TO EXPLAIN THAT IN TERMS OF
THE KINDS OF JOBS PEOPLE ARE GETTING NOT JUST THE NUMBERS
BEHIND THE JOBS. >> YOU KNOW WHAT WE LIKE?
LISTEN, YOU, JASON. WE LEARNED THAT OUR WE LEARN WE
HAD SOME GREAT STATISTICS ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT. YOU TOOK
IT FROM THE NAME OF THE SHOW TO THE NAME OF THE GREAT BAND. AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, YOU
FIT INTO KENDRICK MONEY. TREES REFERENCE. AND THAT'S ALL. THAT'S ALL A
COUPLE ANSWERS. LET ME TURN YOUR ATTENTION TO SOMETHING
ELSE THAT'S ECONOMY. AS FOR THE CHOICE WE'RE GOING INTO THIS
GENERAL ELECTION. AND FOR ALL THE TALK ABOUT DONALD TRUMP AS
A FELON AND AUTOCRAT, THERE'S ALSO WHETHER OR NOT HE WAS GOOD
AT BEING PRESIDENT. LET'S SAY FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT THAT
SOME VOTERS DON'T VIEW THOSE LEGAL ISSUES OR EVEN AUTOCRACY
IS DISQUALIFYING. BUT THEN THERE'S THE QUESTION OF DO YOU
THINK HE WAS GOOD AT RUNNING THE COUNTRY? AND DOCTOR FAUCI
WE HEARD FROM YESTERDAY HAS A NEW BOOK OUT DISCUSSES THIS.
NOT WHETHER YOU COULD DEBATE THIS OR THAT MASK MANDATE, NOT
WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAD THE RIGHT, YOU KNOW, EDITS ON THE
FOOTNOTES TO THE VACCINE PLANT BUT DEEPER FAILURES FROM
SOMEONE WHO SERVED 7 PRESIDENTS IN BOTH PARTIES, HE SAID WERE
UNIQUE TO DONALD TRUMP. TAKE A LIST. >> IT'S NOT FUN BEING YELLED AT
BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. HE COULD USE THE BULLY
PULPIT OF THE PRESIDENCY TO SAY, HEY, LISTEN TO THE
SCIENTISTS. BUT HE DIDN'T DO THAT. I WOULD SAY SOMETHING
THAT HE DIDN'T LIKE. AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN I GET THE BAD
GUY. IT ALWAYS SAYS IF THIS HE WAS TALKING PAST ME LIKE HE WAS
JUST EMOTING. >> WHERE DOES THIS FIT INTO
SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER IN THE PROGRAM TONIGHT
WITH THE DEBATE NEXT WEEK MAY REMIND PEOPLE WHICH IS THIS ISN'T JUST A SOUNDBITE
CONTEST BETWEEN THESE 2 CANDIDATES. WE ARE IN THE RARE POSITION OF
A FORMER PRESIDENT AND THE CURRENT PRESIDENT RUNNING.
THAT'S NOT USUALLY THE FACEOFF. AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THE FORMER
PRESIDENT'S RECORD IF THERE WERE TO BE ANOTHER CRISIS
PANDEMIC INTERNATIONAL CRISIS, WHICH ALREADY SOME DOES HE PUT
THE COUNTRY FIRST? DOES HE DEAL OBJECTIVELY WITH THE SITUATION
TO PROTECT PEOPLE OR AS DOCTOR FAUCI SAYS, DOES HE PUT HIMSELF
FIRST PERSONALLY EVEN AS PEOPLE DIED? >> ALL RIGHT. WE DON'T EVEN
HAVE TO GO TO DOCTOR FAUCI. WE COULD LISTEN TO DONALD
TRUMP'S OWN AGENDA. HE SAID WHEN I GET BACK IN THE OFFICE,
I'M GOING TO BECOME A DICTATOR. I'M GOING TO SPEND THE FIRST
COUPLE MONTHS IN OFFICE GETTING REVENGE ON THE PEOPLE WHO I
THINK MISTREATED ME. SO IT'S A VERY CLEAR HE'S NOT GOING TO BE
FOCUSING ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, MAYBE ONLY FOCUSING ON
THOSE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORTED HIM. BUT THE LARGER QUESTION IS THIS
TO GET RICH OR TALK ABOUT HERE? IT'S AN ISSUE OF COMPETENCE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES ACTUALLY
HAS TO DO TO GET THE JOB DONE? WE'RE IN A UNIQUE POSITION
BECAUSE AGAIN, WE HAVE 2 PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN IN OFFICE AND WE
CAN SEE THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY JOE BIDEN IS
ARGUABLY IN A BETTER POSITION BECAUSE HE CAN STILL SAY, LOOK,
I'VE HAD A FUNCTIONAL ECONOMY. I GOT THE CARES. ACT. LOOK AT
HOW YOUR LIFE LIVES NOW. EVERYTHING ABOUT DONALD TRUMP
HAS TO BE LOOKED AT IN THE REARVIEW. MANY KEY CAN'T CHANGE
ANYTHING HE'S DONE. AND ACTUALLY HE HAS TO DEAL WITH
THINGS LIKE JANUARY 6 AND THE END OF DOBBS AS WELL. SO WHEN
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMPETENCE, IT ACTUALLY HELPS JOE BIDEN A
BIT. IF YOU THINK DONALD TRUMP WAS AN EXCELLENT PRESENT FIND,
YOU CAN VOTE FOR THE GUY AGAIN. BUT IF YOU THINK IT WAS A BAD
PRESIDENT, YOU ALSO GET A CHANCE TO SEE SOMEBODY DO THE
JOB BETTER OR DO THE JOB NOW. AND THAT'S LIKELY TO BRING A
LOT MORE VOTED FOR BIDEN IF HE CAN MAKE THAT MESSAGE
